So around 06:04 Josh Scogin throws the mic stand... that hits me directly in the eye. For years I wished someone had videotaped this show and I just discovered this... I’m so happy right now.
I bought this on a whim with a buddy at a Hot Topic in late 2002 among a couple other classics. Really thought nothing about the purchase, until we turned it on. I remember our faces just like it was yesterday, a mix between being genuinely scared, thoroughly in awe, and proud that we knew we were both hearing a classic album for the first time and how it would play a part in both of our lives forever, which is has 13 years later. Now as I'm older, i've shed a tear hearing the words "Mediocrity is the killer." Life is short and our decisions are weightier as we age. Let's all love each other, love HIM, and make our lives great, not mediocre.
Well said. If we're not seeing things differently all these years later, something is wrong. But records like this still mean a lot to us - maybe more than they did back then.
Tremont and Ace's Basement in Greensboro were my favorite places to go see shows when I was stationed at Bragg in the early 2000s. So many great bands coming out of NC in that era, and so many that passed through because of how strong the NC scene was in that era. I feel privileged and blessed to have lived in that time and place.
I saw this band in a dude's basement in 2003. They had no lead singer. People took turns singing their songs. It might have been the best show I have ever seen.
Yeah you can literally hear that theres a hole in one of the heads on it. Rocked out too hard lol sounds like the bottom head may have been too tight and the force sustained caused it to rip.
I got to see them both in Pittsburgh years ago, Josh was in The Chariot at the time and opened for them. Then they did songs together like this. Greatest live show I've seen to this day.
Classic! BTMKTC is THE BEST Norma Jean album, hands down. The album is almost 15 years old, I still break it out from time to time. One of my personal favorite albums of all time.
One of the best hard-core albums ever. So many ridiculous breakdowns. I'm listening to it right now which made me look up videos lol. The drumming on that record is epic. Daniel Davidson is the man
@@frankr.1298 yeah, i love all NJ albums, but not Bless Martyr. Redeemer is for me their top tier peak, mainly the emotional intensity and the sound engineering on Redeemer is unmatched.
Love the Cory and Scottie hug at the end. Two dudes with lots of love and respect for one another. Scottie Henry is the reason Cory Brandan became the lead singer after Josh split.
The snare is a result of the mixer trying to add an expander/gate on the snare track and the release and attack were super fast. That's why it sounds the way it does. It's also probably really compressed. Probably sounded really good live.
So, I wasn’t a fan of Josh’s, heard ‘68. Got me. I love Norma Jean, I love ‘68. I love the fact that he will sing with them on occasion. I haven’t got in the chariot yet. I’m gonna try em out though. They definitely deserve a listen. Norma Jean has all the good stuff. Heavy, chaotic, they make you think. They also make me want to lose my mind. Thank you for posting this.
Got the pleasure of being there in 06 for that! Was my first C-Stone I had been to then every year following attended. Nothing beat the 1st one though!
If you came here because you love this song, but haven't seen these guys live before and wanted to know what it's like- turn away now!!! You don't need this version in your head.
that was fucking good... seeing em tonight for the first time since 2010.... really hoping the old shit... but im sute it will mostly be polar similar...
+Bands Anonymous Yknow i think he may just be using a deep snare. Not that old school super tight almost pic snare they used to use... Oh well its not st. anger so it could be worse.
+Lord Sorceron it's the gate. you're listening to a board recording, not meant to be listened to out of context of the stage sound. the gate is opening on snare hits, being squashed to shit by a compressor and then has some top end boost to it. all those things combined do terrible things to the cymbals that are bleeding in. you hear it to a lesser degree in the toms at the very very end as well. totally normal ways to process a snare mic live and adds the cut you need in the room. sounds terrible out of context. listen to the very first snare hit of the song. sounds totally normal because no cymbals are ringing yet.
This song and band gets overlooked way too often for how influential they were. Norma Jean was doing things in the early 2000s that changed the scene in a big way. They were the band that paved the way for Solid State Records to pick up bands like Underoath who were the backbone of an entire generation of music. Not to mention that Norma Jean helped to carve out a place for Christian bands and labels as a forefront in the business rather than a side show.
Saw NJ and the Chariot in NOLA back in 2004 and my god was it better than this. Cory told me years later that they got banned from that venue after that show. Absolute madness and mayhem.
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So around 06:04 Josh Scogin throws the mic stand... that hits me directly in the eye. For years I wished someone had videotaped this show and I just discovered this... I’m so happy right now.
He went to the Ronnie Radke school of music
That's so awesome!
I got a wet dildo thrown at me
@@Room-uc5se Ronnie Radke wishes he was half as good as Josh.
U were fkn tharez
Josh Scogin getting his in. Throwing the mic stand, diving in the crowd, blowing out his vocal chords. Just like the old days. Haha.
Fkn gunkins brother
Its The Chariot in him
He had no regard for his physical safety. It was beautiful!
Psst psst psst
Why at 50 years old does I get emotional everytime I watch this. So heavy, so passionate. These two should write one of these together.
I bought this on a whim with a buddy at a Hot Topic in late 2002 among a couple other classics. Really thought nothing about the purchase, until we turned it on. I remember our faces just like it was yesterday, a mix between being genuinely scared, thoroughly in awe, and proud that we knew we were both hearing a classic album for the first time and how it would play a part in both of our lives forever, which is has 13 years later. Now as I'm older, i've shed a tear hearing the words "Mediocrity is the killer." Life is short and our decisions are weightier as we age. Let's all love each other, love HIM, and make our lives great, not mediocre.
Yeah i remember hearing this album for the first time. Blew my mind and it still means so very much to me to this day.
I was with you right up until the end there! Hail Satan!! lol
Well said. If we're not seeing things differently all these years later, something is wrong. But records like this still mean a lot to us - maybe more than they did back then.
Norma Jean used to be called "Luti-kriss." Their record, "Throwing Myself" is totally awesome, too!
bigoadrian same lmao
Brought back so many memories from Tremont Music Hall CHARLOTTE, NC. RIP Tremont!!!
YES! Rip Tremont and Amos’
Tremont and Ace's Basement in Greensboro were my favorite places to go see shows when I was stationed at Bragg in the early 2000s. So many great bands coming out of NC in that era, and so many that passed through because of how strong the NC scene was in that era. I feel privileged and blessed to have lived in that time and place.
Why do I feel 16 and angry all of a sudden
Cuz bruh the generation changed
Let’s goooo
Because you, like myself, are probably 25-30 and still angry.
@@peteralford9147 bruh, I'm 31 and STILL angry
@@peteralford9147lol 😂 yup
Man that drum kit is soooo sick!
2:57 the crowd all singing does not cease to amaze me
holy shit this show looks like it was incredible.
I saw this band in a dude's basement in 2003. They had no lead singer. People took turns singing their songs. It might have been the best show I have ever seen.
One of the greatest bands of an era.
I spotted myself 4 or 5 times crowd surfing and stage diving. This was one hell of a show, couldn't ask for a better way to end that night
i seen myself too!! I was the shirtless guy crowd surfing in the beginning
were you the asshole stage diving feet first?
The song gets better when the original singer tears it a new one
Josh wrote the song, so naturally yes
@@HTXREP it sounds like u smelled ur fart from a wine glass, inhaled deeply, held it and typed that.
@@d3AdLyf3 you dont?
That's all Josh. Wreckin it!
It’s good either way. They both kill it.
Seeing this song live in Memphis as one of my first concerts in early 2000s has forever remained a top memory in my mind 🤘
snare sounds like someone dropped a wet shirt on the ground
Patrick Gleason drums sounded so good in this recording, but that snare was bad
Yeah you can literally hear that theres a hole in one of the heads on it. Rocked out too hard lol sounds like the bottom head may have been too tight and the force sustained caused it to rip.
Sounds perfectly fine to me. The recording as a whole sounds pretty mediocre though...and as we know, mediocrity is a killer.
It sounds like the sample from When Doves Cry hahahaha
Lol! Sounds like someone unsheathing a sword
My teen and young 20’s years love it
that snare though.... woof!
I got to see them both in Pittsburgh years ago, Josh was in The Chariot at the time and opened for them. Then they did songs together like this. Greatest live show I've seen to this day.
Classic! BTMKTC is THE BEST Norma Jean album, hands down. The album is almost 15 years old, I still break it out from time to time. One of my personal favorite albums of all time.
One of the best hard-core albums ever. So many ridiculous breakdowns. I'm listening to it right now which made me look up videos lol. The drumming on that record is epic. Daniel Davidson is the man
Great album but man did they evolve after
@@frankr.1298 yeah, i love all NJ albums, but not Bless Martyr. Redeemer is for me their top tier peak, mainly the emotional intensity and the sound engineering on Redeemer is unmatched.
This just makes me so beyond happy. This is the exact atmosphere I grew up in going to hardcore shows. I would have killed to have been at this moment
This is the greatest thing i've ever seen
Freaking classic! Top five favorite bands for sure. Number one for whatever title they get in their respective genre.
Love the Cory and Scottie hug at the end. Two dudes with lots of love and respect for one another. Scottie Henry is the reason Cory Brandan became the lead singer after Josh split.
Ohhh it’s Scottie Henry that came out!
Literally my favorite guitarist and i didn’t notice him
Beautiful
Amazing
I wonder if anyone warned security that a category Scogin level storm was gonna show up. 😅
perfecto
This is EVERYTHING!
Anyone remember their first band luticriss I miss seeing them in whitesburg Ky on the weekend in a lil ass run down building
Still fucking hits haaaaard dude. Who even does breakdowns like that anymore?? So fucking good
that snare... woof!
Melhor música desse mundo! Obrigado Norma Jean! ❤
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Sounds like the cymbals are bleeding into the snare. When the snare hits, it triggers the gate to open which includes the cymbal bleed.
Beau Ferchaud You're correct. 👍🏼
drummers anonymous 🤗👍🏻
Beau Ferchaud pleasures of a live gig. Fuck production with gems like them.
fuckin' goosebumps. incredible
Legendary
incredible ! .
Legend is on business 🔥
The girl getting kicked in the face @4:30 has me wheezing
OOOOOOFFF! Been there
Holy shit lolol
Might be the greatest song ever written
🔥🖤🔥🤘🏽. Oh, dude has a Converge shirt on too. (Jane Doe)
I think the snare was on loan from Stryper's Robert Sweet. That definitely sounds like a 1980's Christian Metal snare drum.
The snare is a result of the mixer trying to add an expander/gate on the snare track and the release and attack were super fast. That's why it sounds the way it does. It's also probably really compressed. Probably sounded really good live.
It sounds more like they are mixing the snare on the top and bottom but all were hearing is the bottom mic. Although it does sound gated.
This looks like so much fun
In 2021, waiting for shows to come back.
LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuckinggggg loooove this band!!!!
amazing
.and Scottie Henry
Yup! I was going to put that but it was such a long title. :P
I miss this band..
This is still probably my favorite breakdown ever. Also I wish he would have cleared his throat at the start of the song like on the cd.
wish they'd come back with all the original member's
YES!
I've never seen something so fucking epic
Nobody should singing this love besides josh
The Masquerade!!! 🤘🤘 Hometown
i miss that venue so much. RIP 695
Yes.
That's awesome. I miss Scottie's presence in NJ.
20 min breakdowwwwnnnn
So, I wasn’t a fan of Josh’s, heard ‘68. Got me. I love Norma Jean, I love ‘68. I love the fact that he will sing with them on occasion. I haven’t got in the chariot yet. I’m gonna try em out though. They definitely deserve a listen. Norma Jean has all the good stuff. Heavy, chaotic, they make you think. They also make me want to lose my mind. Thank you for posting this.
Check out "And Then, Came Then."
It's a classic.
Epic absolut. Norma isn't group, it's great family.
old norma jean and the chariot......fuck me they were incredible.
Oh my heart
LONG LIVE THE SCENE
Absolutely fucking legendary
sick!
This was literally the best fucking tour ever
What could be even more epic..? If Aaron Weiss was there😮
You gonna have to go back to that old Solid State DVD with the Cornerstone performance for that
saw dat at purple door. was righteous
Cornerstone 2006
Furnace Fest 2002. Sound is garbage but the video and intensity is legit!
Got the pleasure of being there in 06 for that! Was my first C-Stone I had been to then every year following attended. Nothing beat the 1st one though!
Love u
Song in Top 20 rock hits all time. Age of Memphis.
Josh Scogin. Greatest frontman of all fucking time!!!!
If you came here because you love this song, but haven't seen these guys live before and wanted to know what it's like- turn away now!!! You don't need this version in your head.
I lol'd when he patted the bass drum and it triggered the bass drum trigger
EPIC
God fucking bless Norma Jean.
anyone else notice that josh hit his head on the drum microphone at 3:56? you can actually hear it haha the mic falls off a few seconds later
Haha damn you’re right
Heavy Mellow yess!!!
The dude at 5:42 looks like he lost his pants, but maybe those are his shorts idk
Watching in 2023!
This is LIT 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🔥🔥🔥
Man I wish these guys would come out to Calvery chapel golden springs.
Could we get a recording where the snare doesn’t sound like a hacky sack?
🤘🤘🤘
Great performance. Sounds like the tempo was a bit slower than usual.
4:08 rip microphone
girl takes a flying kick to the face at 4:34
that was fucking good...
seeing em tonight for the first time since 2010.... really hoping the old shit... but im sute it will mostly be polar similar...
snare sounds broken
+Lord Sorceron Haha. Yea, I'm not sure what was up with that. The compressor setting on it? *Shrugs*
+Bands Anonymous Yknow i think he may just be using a deep snare. Not that old school super tight almost pic snare they used to use... Oh well its not st. anger so it could be worse.
+Lord Sorceron it's the gate. you're listening to a board recording, not meant to be listened to out of context of the stage sound. the gate is opening on snare hits, being squashed to shit by a compressor and then has some top end boost to it. all those things combined do terrible things to the cymbals that are bleeding in. you hear it to a lesser degree in the toms at the very very end as well. totally normal ways to process a snare mic live and adds the cut you need in the room. sounds terrible out of context.
listen to the very first snare hit of the song. sounds totally normal because no cymbals are ringing yet.
It's just tuned super low. Sounds terrible in this video and IMO isn't a good fit for their kind of music.
there's nothing wrong with low snare tuning in any kind of music. the way his kit is tuned has never sounded bad with them or with FBTMOF.
NOW YOU'RE DOING THE WALTZ WITH YOUR MURDERER
I always thought it was jewing the watts with your amplifier
so tight
Fucking miss these chills
mann i missss the classic scottie henry and chris day no homo
I was at this show.
This song and band gets overlooked way too often for how influential they were. Norma Jean was doing things in the early 2000s that changed the scene in a big way. They were the band that paved the way for Solid State Records to pick up bands like Underoath who were the backbone of an entire generation of music. Not to mention that Norma Jean helped to carve out a place for Christian bands and labels as a forefront in the business rather than a side show.
Well... have you heard about Botch? ;)
holy fuck that shit was live!
It's so weird hearing them play this song at the actual original tempo. They played it at like 400bpm for 20 years.
Josh > all
5:55 when the guy thinks the staff wants to chill
Saw NJ and the Chariot in NOLA back in 2004 and my god was it better than this. Cory told me years later that they got banned from that venue after that show. Absolute madness and mayhem.
4:13....your welcome
They know how to play a show. For real.