Squier Bronco bass mods Ep.2: Seymour Duncan Hot Rails pickup. Series vs. Parallel!

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  • This is episode #2 in a series where I am modding a Squier Sonic series Bronco short scale bass. How good sounding can I get this budget friendly bass?
    In this unsponsored video, I will feature the Seymour Duncan Hot Rails (neck) humbucker pickup (SHR-1n for Strat). This pickup is a drop-in replacement, as it was originally designed for a Stratocaster electric guitar.
    We will also explore the advantages and disadvantages of series vs. parallel wiring and will listen to their tonal differences.
    Basses were recorded direct through a Line6 Pod Go with the identical settings (GK800RB model). They were level matched, with the exception of parallel wiring example, but no EQ or compression was added in post.
    Link to Guitar Guts video on series and parallel wiring: • Seymour Duncan Humbuck...
    00:00 Intro
    00:32 Seymour Duncan Hot Rails as drop in replacement
    01:37 Series vs Parallel wiring discussion
    03:44 Intro to the track
    04:43 Track A-B comparison
    07:16 Assessment
    jonathanwong.bandcamp.com
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  • @Arcade1959
    @Arcade1959 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for your patience in responding to us and thank you for all your videos

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My pleasure! Thanks for supporting my little channel!

  • @georgegandara6054
    @georgegandara6054 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally decided to buy a Squier Bronco and a Squier P/J Precission .......I have the PJ at home and the other will be delivered next week!!! Awesome bass!!!!👍🇨🇱

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's so awesome so hear! Hope you enjoy them!

  • @josephbania4564
    @josephbania4564 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm so glad you are featuring this bass as a mod platform. It is very inexpensive and has lots of potential. I have a white one that I modded the crap out of. I won't list everything I did, but I did make a new pickguard out of mother -of-pearl material, routed it for EMG precision pickup, added a battery box, recarved the neck and sunk it into the body about 1/8 and put on a new bridge (I had a nice one laying around, it's a Stew Mac one, l'm not sure the brand) , I also tweaked several of the frets for level. Now I have a nice light bass that looks good, has killer tone and plays great. Keep up the good work...oh ya, I'm running Ernie Ball cobalt flats 50 to 110, LOVE those strings on a short scale.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thanks so much for watching! Totally agree, the Bronco is pretty budget friendly. Have a variety a bridges I'm going to try out in the series after the pickups. Unfortunately, with lower price-point instruments, there is considerable variety in quality and outcomes. The white bronco I'm modding has a very nice acoustic resonance and ring to it. I think that comes across on the recording. And the neck is pretty solid. That's one of the reasons I've chosen to mod this particular one. My ultimate goal is to make a stellar (inexpensive) back-up bass for when I don't want to the bring the F bass, or for outside gigs in the rain, haha!

  • @LMaia14
    @LMaia14 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This series is so much fun, I'm even considering getting a bronco to try it out. Thank you so much for taking the time to record and upload for us!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for watching!

    • @Actionmom69
      @Actionmom69 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Should i get a Bronco or precision?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Actionmom69 I'm just seeing this now (sorry, the app doesn't always give me notifications).
      Re bronco or precision. I think these are 2 very different instruments and it really comes down to which scale length you prefer. Neck comfort and king if you want to play your best, so I'd try the different options out if you can. A precision will always be a welcome member in any bass collection. But it can be a beast to play!

  • @SiddharthBasrurOfficial
    @SiddharthBasrurOfficial 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Definitely an upgrade from the stock pickup. I bought the Bronco bass a couple of weeks ago and love the playability. Thanks for this series. Been wanting to change the pickup, and it looks like the Hot Rails in series is the winner for me.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s a surprisingly comfy neck! Thanks for watching! SD is a good choice

  • @OtaconNachos
    @OtaconNachos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Going through your series, supremely useful! I just bought a Bronco and going through the pickup options and you have been a great help!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for watching and for your encouragement! Still have a few more episodes planned! Stay tuned!

    • @OtaconNachos
      @OtaconNachos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458musicLooking forward to them! I think your videos have helped me decide to go with a cheap dual rails for the meantime to help with the hum! Maybe I'll try a hum-cancelling '51 P-Bass pickup in the future as well... I also ordered a brass saddle Wilkinson like you have on your permanent mod list. Thanks again!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on! Hope you enjoy your modding journey!

  • @willistaylor4077
    @willistaylor4077 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This had been a Very Cool series.
    I dare say by the time I'm 60, I'm going to have a room full of Short-scale Basses. 😂❤
    I'm 51 now, with an autoimmune condition and chronic pain.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was health reasons that put a massive damper on my musical life…that’s how I got into shorties. Now it’s a studio full of them. One for each occasion!

  • @JDavidFall
    @JDavidFall 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I really like all the different pickups you’ve tried In this but I still prefer the stock pickup. I know it’s cheap but I prefer the sound of it to all
    The others. Crazy

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Not crazy at all! I’ve mentioned that the stock pickup has a unique growl and grind to its tone! Just the noise and hum I don’t like, but it’s part of the charm of single coils.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @alrightythen214
    @alrightythen214 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hi Jonathan, thanks for making this series, it's really interesting as I am considering a bronco myself

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks so much for watching! I hope it's fun for all.

  • @Asmuk
    @Asmuk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for this series. Exactly what i was looking for.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s wonderful to hear, thank you! More to come in the series!

  • @michellaudinat7107
    @michellaudinat7107 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great ! the parallel produce also an interesting tone

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, a thinner sound, could be used in solos, or for/with different effects
      Thanks for watching!

  • @vasifazan1162
    @vasifazan1162 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for this informative video ❤

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching and for the encouragement!

  • @generalepictv
    @generalepictv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Jonathan!, I'm loving this series! You are inspiring me to start my own little bass mod project... There are some modifications that I would like to see you doing on this bass: shielding, bridge, and tuning pegs. Also a string change to flatwounds or nylon tapewounds. For the sound comparison, I think it would be great if you could cut the scenes back and forth (3 to 5 secs) between the setups to give us imediate feedback. Keep it up the good work! You got a new subscriber.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
      Without giving too much away....you've read my mind! Up next, shielding with copper tape on both cavity and pickguard (pre & post), more pickups coming, a few different bridges, and then strings (exactly as you've suggested, tapes and flats)!
      As for the back and forth scenes, I plan on making a compilation conclusion video which will cycle through the different parts as you have suggested. Having made the rapid comparisons in previous videos, some viewers found it aurally confusing, hence the relatively longer passes.
      Stay tuned and thanks so much for subscribing!
      PS the sonic series bronco already has an upgraded bridge and tuner set. I’m not sold on the bridge, but the stock tuners are pretty good, and I’m not confident different tuners would result in a sonic difference. They turn relatively smoothly and stay in tune. Look relatively lightweight.

  • @drummergirl0018
    @drummergirl0018 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have an Ibanez Mikrobass I just bought. I have a set of EMG Geezer Butler PJ pickups to put into it. I'm also going to try a set of hybrid strings, 45-100. I'd love to see you do a mod series on the Mikrobass too. Loving your channel, you obviously work very behind the scenes. Thankyou!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s in the works! After the bronco series wraps up, I’m hoping to do a Squier mini P mod series, then a Mikro! Timing wise, if all goes to plan, hopefully Dec/Jan-ish?
      Great idea. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!

    • @drummergirl0018
      @drummergirl0018 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome, thank you!
      @@jonathanwong458music

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hope you enjoy it!

  • @yobhsiFehT
    @yobhsiFehT 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Only thing now would be to hear it with flats 😇😄

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for watching! Although not with the Duncan, I made a video where I put Thomastik flats on this Bronco! Here's a link:
      th-cam.com/video/SXmrVDORT_Q/w-d-xo.html

  • @SandauxBeats
    @SandauxBeats หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thaaank youuu!!!

  • @bignick8121
    @bignick8121 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a great series! Thanks so much for taking the time to put these videos together!
    When you're selecting your guitar pickups for the bronco, are you ordering the neck position or bridge position? Is there a reason as to why?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for watching!
      This SD is the ‘neck’ version.
      In this bronco series, P bass style pickups are typically ‘neck’ by default. However, the Artec soapbar was the neck version. Typically, the outputs tend to be a bit hotter in the bridge version (as less string orbit by the bridge) or they may be voiced differently for the same reason. Some ‘bridge’ bass pickups are also bigger/wider as the strings have a bit of a spread, wider string spacing at the bridge. Eg the bridge J is wider than the neck J p/u.

  • @StevenDoyleLuke
    @StevenDoyleLuke 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like this better, so far . . . and nice wiring job . . . Add some flats and you are good to go.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Too soon to end the series!! Lots more to come. But certainly possible that the earlier efforts will be the winner overall. I'm really looking to create an inexpensive backup bass for more dodgy environments:)
      Thanks for watching, as always!

  • @sl0wsn4il
    @sl0wsn4il 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Hot Rails in series definitely has the best tone! One question I have is: Is that the neck or bridge version of the pickup?
    Also, outside of the EMGs I recommended in the previous video, some people have also recommended the Dimarzio Air Norton S. Like the HR, it is a rail design but doesn’t have as much output. Some say it has a better tone. Great video!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching Ep.2!
      It's the neck version. I forgot to say that in the video. I'll add it to the description. Good catch!
      The EMG is on order. I ordered the S4, as I feel going back to 6 pole pieces in S2 or S3 could potentially be a back step, magnetically. The S4 is a rail design with more lows and low mids (as advertised!) . Will see whether that's true!.
      I have a DiMarzio jazz humbucker I'm going to experiment with. See whether it's worthy of a video shoot. Stay tuned!

  • @trappenweisseguy27
    @trappenweisseguy27 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s also the wide range of Lace Sensor pickups that are compatible and don’t have pole piece dropout.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I featured the Lace Sensor Red and Blue in later episodes! They sounded quite good! Thanks for watching!

  • @kingbabynogravy4915
    @kingbabynogravy4915 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love that I stumbled across this video…I’m gonna be switching out the stock PUP with a SD hot rail in series… am I understanding correctly the wiring? I’ve got the white and red spliced and taped together…the green and bare going to the black lead…and then the black to the white?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Here’s a link to SD’s website on humbucker wiring. Every company follows a different colour scheme.
      www.seymourduncan.com/blog/latest-updates/humbucker-wire-color-translation
      For SD, white and red are spliced together and taped as you said. Bare and green both go to ground (Eg case of the pot) and black is the hot lead that goes to the pot terminal.
      Thanks for watching! Good luck!

  • @Barry101er
    @Barry101er 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seymour Duncan and series good match. All you need now is gold hardware, lol

  • @Arcade1959
    @Arcade1959 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you have the opportunity or information, the Vintage Rail and Cool Rail might be interesting to try

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It would be interesting. They would be lower in output and likely less aggressive sounding (in comparison to the hot rails).

  • @willistaylor4077
    @willistaylor4077 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually, I still quite like both pickups, original stock And S Duncan.
    I would go for the S Duncan pickup, if this was my Bass.
    👍🎸🎶❤️

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      More potential choices to come! Thanks for watching!

  • @paulbucklebuckle4921
    @paulbucklebuckle4921 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤗

  • @Arcade1959
    @Arcade1959 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I notice that the pickup with the parallel wiring has less output than the stock pickup.
    Between the three sounds, I prefer the stock pickup, too bad for the parasitic noise

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, in general, parallel has slightly less output, but you get more highs and clarity in exchange. The parallel sound definitely has its use and could be useful to cut through a dense mix. Just need a little more input gain.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @Arcade1959
    @Arcade1959 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I prefer these Seymour Duncans to the Musiclily Dual Rail Hot Humbucker.
    Certainly the Seymour are more expensive but seem more versatile

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with you! The Duncans are more musical sounding. Thanks for watching! But yeah, ~3x the price of the musiclily

    • @Arcade1959
      @Arcade1959 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458music Are the Duncan SCR-1 or SHR-1 ?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's the neck version of the hot rail - SHR1N
      (not the cool rail)

    • @Arcade1959
      @Arcade1959 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458music SCR-1 / SHR-1 What's the difference between the two please ?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Arcade1959 Both are electric guitar pickups by design and as I understand it, the Hot rail is SD's hottest wound humbucker in a single-sized shell. Higher output. In contrast, the cool rail is a less hot, slightly lower output version of the rail design. I suspect in a Stratocaster type guitar, the tonal differences will be more apparent than in a bass. I've never tried the Cool rail version. Check out SD's website for more info!

  • @ignacioantonioaedosepulved453
    @ignacioantonioaedosepulved453 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hello, thanks for these series, are amazing. I recently bought this same pickup for my bronco, However, I don't know why, I sent it to my luthier and now the souund is so weak, I have to turn on my compressor pedal to raise the volume, do you think that it might be the pots or something like that?, did you experience something similar? Thank you beforehand! and take care!

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for watching and asking! When I had the Duncan Hot Rail in, the output was HOT. The series wiring was louder than the parallel. It's possible that the pots are bad, ...however....another possible scenario is that the pickup is wired incorrectly inside the cavity. It's not fair of me to create distrust in your luthier. But every pickup company has a different colour code for their wiring and it's very easy to mis-wire as a result (unless you consult with the instructions). My suggestion would be to confirm that the wiring is correct first (series is the default wiring on the diagram if my memory is correct). If wiring is correct, could then ensure all the pots are good and well grounded. If that still doesn't sort it out, it is always possible that you have a broken or defective pickup (which is rare but not impossible from Seymour Duncan).
      I hope this is helpful! Hope it's an easy fix for you!

    • @ignacioantonioaedosepulved453
      @ignacioantonioaedosepulved453 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jonathanwong458music ohhh un going to check that out! Thanks for the answer! Have a nice day! And thank you again

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@ignacioantonioaedosepulved453 good luck to you!

    • @ignacioantonioaedosepulved453
      @ignacioantonioaedosepulved453 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jonathanwong458music hello again, at the end the pickup came broken from the factory! Now I'm going to have one in good condition. I wanna thank you for your assistance and time.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ignacioantonioaedosepulved453 Glad the store or Seymour Duncan is taking care of you! Best of luck with the replacement!

  • @mukund161
    @mukund161 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How to kill the humming noise of bronco original pickups??

  • @journeyquest1
    @journeyquest1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Series full tone for me.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on! Nice choice. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!

    • @journeyquest1
      @journeyquest1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jonathanwong458music What is a good gauge string for these 30 scale bass?

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a great question. If you want to ‘string it properly’ with the correct string wound length, then you are limited to what the manufacturers make, which is not much. Unfortunately, most short scale sets are the usual 45-100. A few make a 50-105 (Eg D’addario) and Fender only has their nickel 40-95.
      Might be out of luck if you want a 110 E….
      If you are willing to risk using long/standard scale strings, then you have much more choice. But you do risk string breakage around the tuning peg especially if it’s a smaller diameter peg. The sharper break angles can cause the string to unravel or have the winding snap.

  • @choowie92
    @choowie92 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I still prefer the original pickup. 😭I have no taste! 😭

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The stock pickup has a unique grind to it and I like it too! It’s just the noise…Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @bobt5778
      @bobt5778 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure you do, single coil pickups are immensely popular in both guitars and basses for good reason!

    • @ramblr1959
      @ramblr1959 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You cant hear the noise while playing. People care too much about instruments being quiet while not playing.

    • @VivaSepulchre
      @VivaSepulchre 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The stock pickup has six pole pieces an four strings. I have a Tahitian Coral bronco. Love it but that stock guitar pickup in a bass is rough when trying to distinguish notes 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @larryn2682
    @larryn2682 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The parallel mode wiring is not true humbucking.

    • @jonathanwong458music
      @jonathanwong458music  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As I understand it (and I may very well be wrong), one of the hot rail coils runs in the opposite direction compared to the other.
      Thanks for watching!