Printer cartridges net cost: less than $1. Printer cartridges retail cost: double or triple digits $. Stop supporting these gouging marketing strategies. Buy only refillable cartridges/printers (rare but not nonexistent) or CISS printers. Purchase modified chip cartridges that don't restrict ink usage. Lies by the printer manufacturers and their explanations: - "Printers sell cheap so we have to sell marked up cartridges." This is false. A truthful rephrase would be: "We could sell both at a sensible price but we love profit. Since people don't buy printers often they would provide little money if we sold them with the consumer in mind. That yacht I bought my kid isn't going to pay itself so let's price consumables like ink cartridges many $." - "Cartridges are expensive because ink is expensive" Unless retailers that sell 200ml bottles for half the price of a 10ml cartridge have magical space unicorns that pee printer ink then that previous statement is automatically proven false -"Printer ink is expensive because of R&D" Ah yes R&D, aka research and development, aka publicity scape-goat, aka legal tax evasion. Drop a few million $$$ into R&D paperwork while slipping a few billion in some offshore accounts through fake satellite R&D companies under the guise of the same motive: research and development. -"Hardware locking cartridges against refill is to prevent printing downgrading. DIY refills affect printing quality and we don't want that to reflect on our company image." I don't even need to explain what level of morons they are pointing us out to be. Basically, 'you're all idiots who would drill your cartridges, refill them with ink bought God knows where, and then blame us for your failures'. I won't deny that there aren't that level of braindead knuckleheads out there but a few drops don't make an ocean. Besides, I have modified a lot of cartridges to make them refillable and so far I've never seen degrading. Sometimes I've only seen upgrading due to using fresher ink -"We use blue/cyan when printing black and white to make blacks more vibrant" Yeah, make...blacks...more...vi-brant...with...cyan... 🤦 . I... just can't... but might as well 'We use cyan to force you to buy color cartridges more often. You saving ink hurts our bottom line.'
Lexmark USA let us sue everyone. Lexmark sold abroad? Epson inkjets have more legal documents than are printed from Epson - and the only printers you can get when HP is out of stock is ?
Now we understand how consumers are cheated by these companies. We paid 100 euro for 2 small ink cartridges and they dry out in 1 month without usage! Their lives are short and will not print 1000 sheets as advertised. And then we gave them to these companies for free and they produce another crappy ink cartridges without costs and sell them back to us! And those new printers will not survive the first year and their shell and running wheels start cracking up. Now we understand.
This is total BS! Here's what HP can REALLY do to reduce waste: - Build the printers to be so they last more than 2 years. They were built like tanks in the 90s. - Make all printers like Epson's EcoTank printers: consumer refillable with NO disposables (and hence, no need for recycleables. Just think of all the energy and labor HP would save by cutting their recycle program in 1/3) - And if they have to use cartridges, use individual ink color cartridges so people don't toss a 3-color cartridge just because one color is depleted. There is no excuse for this waste. But they won't do that. Why? Be serious: printer cartridges is their cash cow! Why else do you think they won't disclose the real cost of making an ink cartridge? (According to Statisica, $20B of HP's 2021 revenue was related to printers). They sell their printers at a loss, recoup the costs (and then some!) via cartridges, and do their best to prevent you from using 3rd party cartridges. ..and then they put on a dog-and-pony show about recycling so you'll hold them in high regard, hoping you won't notice that they deliberately make their printers and cartridges disposable. That's marketing for ya! And spare me the crap about plastic in the oceans. Almost all of the plastic in the oceans comes from Asia (and Africa), and the reason it ends up in the ocean is because rain collects a *small* portion of their litter on the ground, brings it to the rivers, and rivers carry it to the ocean. Just Google "asia river litter" and brace yourself. But that's just the tip of the iceberg: 95% of their trash stays on the ground as litter (not in land fills!) and never makes it to the ocean. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never travelled beyond tourist resorts, and never bothered to google about trash in third-world countries. But countries who do care about trash (eg, Rwanda) are night-and-day different from countries who don't (eg, DR Congo), even though there's just a river that separates them. (Been there, done that) Ink recycle programs have ZERO impact on litter around the world and trash in the oceans. Just follow the money trail. As usual.
Erin this video was really fascinating and thank you for sharing with us. You showed us about ink cartridges and printer but what about toner cartridges? What happens to them? How they do it? It will be great if you can help me to get answers to this. By the way, I really liked your video.
No, they don't actually recyle these... It's cheaper for them to send them off to a landfill. Not to mention the cost of all those shipping lables, & the logistics involved. They lobby the government, period. Couldn't convince me HP spends this amount of $ on reclcying their own overpriced junk with a scam as old as time, though they probably do get awith with selling them to a recylcing facilty, 'cause they're not paying more HP employees to do that. This is a ridiculous sale~
Those working conditions or the employs are not very smart, a mask should be worn inside when dealing with all those ink cartridges and printers. Imagine all the ink particles/dust people are breathing in day in day out along with any other particles from the e-waste from the printer housings.
Disgusting waste of energy and materials , could of just moved to bulk ink tanks and done away with the overpriced constant replacement dumb print cartridge model.. trying to act like they are doing good, they are simply recycling a portion of the chaos they created in the name of massive profits.
The HP website for recycling has major issues. Cannot even get to the option for them to mail out a recycle bag so the used cartridges can be shipped. Do they recycle or not?
Printer cartridges net cost: less than $1. Printer cartridges retail cost: double or triple digits $. Stop supporting these gouging marketing strategies. Buy only refillable cartridges/printers (rare but not nonexistent) or CISS printers. Purchase modified chip cartridges that don't restrict ink usage.
Lies by the printer manufacturers and their explanations:
- "Printers sell cheap so we have to sell marked up cartridges." This is false. A truthful rephrase would be: "We could sell both at a sensible price but we love profit. Since people don't buy printers often they would provide little money if we sold them with the consumer in mind. That yacht I bought my kid isn't going to pay itself so let's price consumables like ink cartridges many $."
- "Cartridges are expensive because ink is expensive" Unless retailers that sell 200ml bottles for half the price of a 10ml cartridge have magical space unicorns that pee printer ink then that previous statement is automatically proven false
-"Printer ink is expensive because of R&D" Ah yes R&D, aka research and development, aka publicity scape-goat, aka legal tax evasion. Drop a few million $$$ into R&D paperwork while slipping a few billion in some offshore accounts through fake satellite R&D companies under the guise of the same motive: research and development.
-"Hardware locking cartridges against refill is to prevent printing downgrading. DIY refills affect printing quality and we don't want that to reflect on our company image." I don't even need to explain what level of morons they are pointing us out to be. Basically, 'you're all idiots who would drill your cartridges, refill them with ink bought God knows where, and then blame us for your failures'. I won't deny that there aren't that level of braindead knuckleheads out there but a few drops don't make an ocean. Besides, I have modified a lot of cartridges to make them refillable and so far I've never seen degrading. Sometimes I've only seen upgrading due to using fresher ink
-"We use blue/cyan when printing black and white to make blacks more vibrant" Yeah, make...blacks...more...vi-brant...with...cyan... 🤦 . I... just can't... but might as well 'We use cyan to force you to buy color cartridges more often. You saving ink hurts our bottom line.'
HP: Planned Obsolescence
Gov't: NO.
HP: Recycling?
Gov't: Nope.
Hp: Recycling AND $5Mil in lobbying?
Gov't: Well, alright.
Epson: Unplanned Obsolescence!
Lexmark USA let us sue everyone. Lexmark sold abroad? Epson inkjets have more legal documents than are printed from Epson - and the only printers you can get when HP is out of stock is ?
Absolutely fascinating! Thank you for sharing this with us!
Agreed. I found it very interesting too. Thank you Erin.
Thanks for watching!
It is a nice and useful video. Starink toner/ink cartridge- start different.
Now we understand how consumers are cheated by these companies. We paid 100 euro for 2 small ink cartridges and they dry out in 1 month without usage! Their lives are short and will not print 1000 sheets as advertised. And then we gave them to these companies for free and they produce another crappy ink cartridges without costs and sell them back to us! And those new printers will not survive the first year and their shell and running wheels start cracking up. Now we understand.
That’s what happens to my instant ink bags
Very informative video :) thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for video 👍
Thanks for watching!
That’s awesome the recycling ❤️❤️❤️❤️
😭😭😭😭how many printers could be repaired by masters
They're made to be disposable. Time and effort would be better spent making the printers last 5 years instead of 2.
Where do I take my HP Printer for recycling?
refill your cartridges ! hp is guilty for all that waste cause they make huge money selling those cartridges..
Amazing. 💞👍
This is total BS! Here's what HP can REALLY do to reduce waste:
- Build the printers to be so they last more than 2 years. They were built like tanks in the 90s.
- Make all printers like Epson's EcoTank printers: consumer refillable with NO disposables (and hence, no need for recycleables. Just think of all the energy and labor HP would save by cutting their recycle program in 1/3)
- And if they have to use cartridges, use individual ink color cartridges so people don't toss a 3-color cartridge just because one color is depleted. There is no excuse for this waste.
But they won't do that. Why? Be serious: printer cartridges is their cash cow! Why else do you think they won't disclose the real cost of making an ink cartridge? (According to Statisica, $20B of HP's 2021 revenue was related to printers).
They sell their printers at a loss, recoup the costs (and then some!) via cartridges, and do their best to prevent you from using 3rd party cartridges.
..and then they put on a dog-and-pony show about recycling so you'll hold them in high regard, hoping you won't notice that they deliberately make their printers and cartridges disposable. That's marketing for ya!
And spare me the crap about plastic in the oceans. Almost all of the plastic in the oceans comes from Asia (and Africa), and the reason it ends up in the ocean is because rain collects a *small* portion of their litter on the ground, brings it to the rivers, and rivers carry it to the ocean. Just Google "asia river litter" and brace yourself. But that's just the tip of the iceberg: 95% of their trash stays on the ground as litter (not in land fills!) and never makes it to the ocean. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never travelled beyond tourist resorts, and never bothered to google about trash in third-world countries. But countries who do care about trash (eg, Rwanda) are night-and-day different from countries who don't (eg, DR Congo), even though there's just a river that separates them. (Been there, done that)
Ink recycle programs have ZERO impact on litter around the world and trash in the oceans.
Just follow the money trail. As usual.
Erin this video was really fascinating and thank you for sharing with us. You showed us about ink cartridges and printer but what about toner cartridges? What happens to them? How they do it? It will be great if you can help me to get answers to this. By the way, I really liked your video.
You are so welcome! The toner cartridges are handled in much the same way.
What financial benefit can I get when collected waste cartridges,printers and send them to you
Please don't send them to me ;)
How cool!
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great job Erin ❕❕❕
No, they don't actually recyle these... It's cheaper for them to send them off to a landfill. Not to mention the cost of all those shipping lables, & the logistics involved. They lobby the government, period. Couldn't convince me HP spends this amount of $ on reclcying their own overpriced junk with a scam as old as time, though they probably do get awith with selling them to a recylcing facilty, 'cause they're not paying more HP employees to do that. This is a ridiculous sale~
How can I send cartridge there,I am from srinlanka
Those working conditions or the employs are not very smart, a mask should be worn inside when dealing with all those ink cartridges and printers. Imagine all the ink particles/dust people are breathing in day in day out along with any other particles from the e-waste from the printer housings.
You would be surrpised~
Where can I drop off after I put the hp ink cartridge in the envelope to send hp company that they send me an recycling envelope through the mail?
Awesome
2:40 was it last year? also you have no rights to say that with your cartridges
HP stands for Horrible Printers.
Disgusting waste of energy and materials , could of just moved to bulk ink tanks and done away with the overpriced constant replacement dumb print cartridge model.. trying to act like they are doing good, they are simply recycling a portion of the chaos they created in the name of massive profits.
Amen brother
Is is why their ink is so expensive?
Because the cars and homes their executives like are expensive.
I just throw it away
The HP website for recycling has major issues. Cannot even get to the option for them to mail out a recycle bag so the used cartridges can be shipped. Do they recycle or not?