What the Apple 4.3 Guideline is Really All About
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- What the Apple 4.3 Guideline is Really All About (The Daily Video #325)
Today, I talked about what the Apple 4.3 guideline is all about. I have to say that I'm a little bit annoyed, because of this guideline my new app has been rejected. Again.
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You raised a good question about your language apps - how can you be expected to combine all the languages into one app - it would include audio files for every language when the user only needs one.
Yeah. That's my problem. I can see it done from a technical point of view where everything gets downloaded after you install the "shell"-- but it's terrible from a marketing and keyword point of view. Someone wanting to learn Swahili won't find an app without any keywords related to that (since I have all the other languages too). And... I can't compete with a developer who has only one app for that language. It might be inferior, but it's his only one. So, I'm not being punished for producing the product-- I'm being punished for having too many. Thanks Rachel. I'm so glad someone sees what I am talking about! :-)
I have been thinking this over and in some way think Apple has a good objective - it is trying not to become overpopulated with second rate apps like the windows store.
I believe if you want your app to sell in another county you have have to market in that country's language and wording (not just a translation of your language) so for language apps the main point would be "learn any language" and then a list of every language covered.
So basically I would group and combine the apps based on the target market - USA, French, German and so on. Or do you think that is a load of rubbish (I wish I had more experience but hoping to get first app next month)?
I think that is a good idea. But, that's also what app bundles are good for. In the past, I've released bundles on how to learn a certain language and they sell pretty well. Now, I probably need to combine them into one app. But I really don't like doing that.
As iOS devloper I know how frustrating it is.Reviewers are being rude to our app for no reason, More than 24 hrs for review and then rejection of app.Android app takes less than 15 mins to get approved.I have made another account to solve this problem I upload app in that(2nd account) and then transfer it to my main account.I have done this 2 times.It might work for you(not sure).Thank you sir for this video.
Apple should be forced to allow other companies to open their own AppStore. It is a monopoly.
Totally agree. It's very frustrating. I feel disrespected. I think that once you get the damn 4.3 there is no possible solution. It already happened to me with 2 apps.
Even with one that was already online, I send an update and they reject it, I go back all the changes and they reject it again. Unusual.
Hello , Thanks for sharing this video . I got same 4.3 Design : Spam this Rejecting Guideline to one of my new games . It is totally different than other games , so I don’t know why apple keeping copy & past this reason . I use Unity 3D Game engine in this game and others , and also I use some of same keywords for this game and other game so I don’t know if that the reason but the problem is Apple Review Team is not helpful and useless and couldn’t determine the exact reason for 4.3 Design : Spam ! Also I think apple don’t care about indie developers or small developers , they care only about big Companies Developers so they don’t care at all about small developers .
I am the same. They wanted developers for a while so they could grow, but now they can’t handle it. Nothing worse than spending months on a project and having it rejected.
The app review board is such a nightmare to work with. You could spend 6 months working on an app and some doofus at Apple can flush it down the toilet in 60 seconds. God bless Google and the Play Store because I can always count on them when Apple lets me down. (I'm a React Native developer so my fate isn't totally in Apple's hands)
You are right. It is about having too many apps. I am still struggling after downsizing the number of apps and coming up from 100+ to 6. Still Apple wants me to consolidate everything into one. It does not make sense because the target market of all apps is different. Hoping some sense prevails in the app review team. They don't have any guidelines. They just have a target to reduce the number to.
Got rejection for 3.4 guideline, whereas I have no app yet released on my account! How could I spam myself or app store with obly one app. Crazy !
100% Agree. It must be lazy reviewers. Apple is so horrible to developers it makes me sick. Just want to expose them all day for their bullshit until they get their act sorted!
I can feel it. Thats a worst situation to be in. Bottom line is that it's their asset and all we can do is adjust ☹️. Hope you find some viable solution soon.
Do keep us updated on this situation. It will help a lot of developers out there.
They gave me 4.3, but I didn't do anything against the guideline or anything you or any other developer described they may be doing it for. I just decided to forget Apple, because they give way too much trouble for way too little in return. Other developers have said it has more to do with your revenue model. I just wanted a pay once and get it all model; I hear they don't like that. Fuck them!
4.3 would make more sense if they were clear what needs to be done. It has really put me off of them too.
I just received the error too on my FIRST and only app ever submitted. It is completely original front and backend.
HajjMusic did you solve it? It just happened to me this week
@@spicexdreamJust happened to me
Me too 😢 i cant pass 4.3 wall any of my app,my games are unique then i want them to send me which game is similar to mine but nothing happen. HOW can I solve this😬😬😬 help me🤪
I have 2 games, my new games keep getting rejected. It’s not just the amount of apps
Eric, why do you publish clients apps to your account. Your not suppose to do that. There is an Apple guideline against this too, they came out and said that using template sites was ok but not to publish the clients apps all to one account.
+XdebugX Games It was an app for a charity and they asked me. The only other client apps on my account are in development and only used for testflight (and go live on their own accounts) or distributed to one company only using VPP. I have all of my clients set up their own accounts (I have access to dozens through itunesconnect) but this one was a one-off. I wouldn’t have done it if I knew how hard it was going to be. You’re right.
Overpass Apps Did you see my comment and reply video on your Daily Overpass a few days ago about user aquisition? th-cam.com/video/enUVaFi1EHY/w-d-xo.html
That is great! Thank you.
i have some case study here to share. currently on my account also this is the problem. they will just reject any submission and their replies also look automated. so may be they have ear marked the accounts in which the AI engine will reject the app in 2 minutes after app goes to in review.
I had app rejected literally the second it went into review. AI engine is a possibility.
A but not I for apple🤨🤨
I have been spending these feeling, each rejection it makes me down. I don't know how to do. I am an app store developer and now I am considering to work for other people instead of my idea, my apps.
Right now I feel down too, what did you end up doing after commenting this? Just curious...
Apple told me my app is a form of spam, they told me I better develop a web-app , what? alternatively? why I pay for the developer program?
What is Spam, when you program I new App?
I got a 4.03 rejection today! Lucky me. It is my 3rd ever app
Had the spam rejection in an account that was brand new with zero apps in it. So I don't think its about being prolific. Its about the whims of the reviewer.
Totally agree!!!
Exactly same story here!
I often go to an app category like recipes or real estate and I'll see a sea of the same apps. At one point I swear every real estate agent in America had their own app made with one of five templates and the content was always really similar with just a few tweaks for their markets and maybe some UI elements that were different. This doesn't mean the app store is suddenly a curated utopia with 4.3. There are still lots of apps that have yet to be removed and Apple reviewers aren't universally enforcing 4.3 so I do still see some apps that should have been rejected. I think what they are trying to avoid is a situation where you have business people trying to dominate a category by spamming the app store with slight variations of the same app with mildly tweaked content and also scenarios where a dev shop focuses all its efforts on one industry (see car dealer apps) and spits out a bunch of apps that all look and feel the same but for which the client is probably better off with a mobile site. In neither of those situations is a good experience being created for the end user in the app store. I haven't seen all of your apps so I can't speak to your specific situation. Maybe you're in a unique situation where it doesn't make sense to combine your apps from an end-user perspective but it's difficult to convince Apple. If so that sucks and I feel for you. And even if you did convince the Apple reviewer to approve your app, you'd likely have to go through the same song and dance the next time you did an update. Anyway, I like your videos and as someone who also does mobile development, I recognize that Apple can do some things that don't always seem to make sense or that affect developers beyond their original intent. Still, I think think that 4.3, despite it's flaws, was the right approach to make the end-user experience better.
Why not use your sons or wife identity to create other Account
That will help you to solve the issue
or reduce it to some point
I just don't like the idea of doing that. I mean, aren't we talking setting up different bank accounts too? Yeah, that would solve it, but it's terrible for building a brand. But you may be right-- but what a stupid thing to force me to do. Thanks Alone Himself.
I've tried to create a new one but no lucky.
Same story here, probably made even worse by the fact that they fail to apply the same rule to our competition for years... :( About 15% of revenue wiped out as a result of this, and there is no sign that such unfair treatment will stop any time soon. In fact, we had a new competitor who has recently released 3 similar apps, which Apple prohibited us from doing. Utterly ridiculous.
In case you are interested in full details, here is my post on Medium: medium.com/@andriygordiychuk/our-4-3-design-spam-saga-33105602d255