How Google's Chromium Took Over the Browser World

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  • Have you ever wondered why every browser these days is based on Chromium? Why can't they make their own browser from scratch, or base it on something like Firefox? And is having every browser based on Chromium really a bad thing? Let's find out in this video.
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    0:00 Intro
    1:13 What's wrong with everything being Chromium?
    2:31 What's so great about Chromium?
    5:26 Why can't you make your own browser?
    7:47 What happens when Google controls the internet?
    9:26 Conclusion
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  • @WilliamHaisch
    @WilliamHaisch 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +704

    Learning that Firefox gets most of their funding from Google is like discovering the Rebellion in Star Wars is being funded by the Empire. 🤣

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +167

      For legal purposes Google doesn't want to have a complete monopoly, so it's in their interests to keep Firefox around.

    • @Shifter-1040ST
      @Shifter-1040ST 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

      Similar to Microsoft keeping Apple afloat back in the day.

    • @Kismitane
      @Kismitane 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Shhhh can't let the public find out

    • @bonkerbonk343
      @bonkerbonk343 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@Shifter-1040ST that's a common myth, apple's profits were declining but not to the point that microsofts minimal amount helped them at all

    • @naattxxnaattxx7055
      @naattxxnaattxx7055 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Or like learning that the seperatists were led by palpatine

  • @Megalodonix
    @Megalodonix 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1140

    This is why I use hardened Firefox, I'm not gonna have Chromium fed down my throat.

    • @no_name4796
      @no_name4796 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +179

      Even firefox normal, tweaking the settings in about:preferences and installing ublock origin is already really good.
      Especially because firefox will hopefully never break adblockers with manifest v3

    • @meteor4716
      @meteor4716 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@no_name4796Firefox has been implementing MV3, but they're doing so in a way that also supports a lot of MV2 functionality and allows for extensions like uBlock Origin to continue to work, whereas Chromium is stripping away that API compatibility.

    • @raulguy
      @raulguy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Nujabes pfp :D

    • @tacokoneko
      @tacokoneko 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      i use firefox "normal" but i use a heavily customized profile folder with it that i have used for years and to get firefox updates i use the gentoo firefox package

    • @Linuxuser-vw8qw
      @Linuxuser-vw8qw 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@tacokonekostrange how u are a linux user and uses firefox

  • @nelinearni
    @nelinearni 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +782

    the worst thing is, that mozilla makes the worst possible decisions at every turn. not a single month passes without them completely fucking something up

    •  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

      that's why google pays them

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +238

      Yeah, I don't have the most faith in Mozilla's leadership either

    • @NopWorks
      @NopWorks 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sounds ridiculous, but someone who cares about the browser & it's users should create a non-profit organization and take Firefox away from Mozilla
      Because aside from some recent amazing decision for Firefox Android, Firefox really lags behind every browser on productivity & Quality-of-life features.
      Meanwhile they decided to put resources into silly things like selling a rebadged Mullvad and the terrible Photon UI update.
      Privacy is great & important for a browser, but productivity also matters.

    • @poscat0x04
      @poscat0x04 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +102

      Mozilla: focuses on literally anything instead of their browser

    • @TheGlitchyMario
      @TheGlitchyMario 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

      I hate the company itself, but I like Firefox

  • @tech-bore8839
    @tech-bore8839 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +657

    So basically just like the TH-cam monopoly: everyone complains about TH-cam's policies and want alternatives, but they don't want to help build & grow those alternatives. What gets me is that the average person thinks TH-cam/Google just suddenly became this powerful, while conveniently ignoring the YEARS it took to get to this level.
    Sad thing is now that we see the problem and acknowledge it, few people try to fix it. Now most people have become the dog in the "this is fine" meme.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +168

      The problem is it's hard to build the alternatives now. Like I said in the video, it's extremely hard to build a new browser even with billions of dollars to throw at it. Mozilla threw away their chance to build a comparable web engine, so most new browsers are going for the option that doesn't involve billions of dollars of new development.

    • @tech-bore8839
      @tech-bore8839 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

      @@EricMurphyxyz Don't get me wrong, I understand why they choose the easy way. I'm just saying it's going to take actual effort if people want REAL alternatives, not just forks.

    • @ronnie9379
      @ronnie9379 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      Kind of hard for ppl when the algorithms control what ppl see, and people don't even know of any alternatives existing and can't find out. Like are people gonna find a TH-cam alternative? No because they have no hope that they will find anything they want on it because nobody uses it. And if someone tries to make one, how are people going to find it and start using it? It's all on purpose. They are doing their best to control what information people encounter

    • @tech-bore8839
      @tech-bore8839 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ronnie9379 You're not entirely wrong. However, people have the ability to search "TH-cam alternatives" and find them that way (for now). If they can use a search engine for silly/random questions they should be able to search for the alternatives.

    • @user-od4gs3iu4t
      @user-od4gs3iu4t 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tech-bore8839 alternative to. net

  • @alleeadl289
    @alleeadl289 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +360

    i will never use any browser without ad-blocking, it's a nightmare to browse the internet with ads on.

    • @allchicken
      @allchicken 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I have used the internet all my life without addblocker, I dont see the problem, because of that, just dont matter about dumb adds

    • @lookinaturmom
      @lookinaturmom 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +56

      @@allchickenur probably a vanilla user.

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +61

      @@allchicken we found a live NPC boys! 🤣

    • @cyr0_gd
      @cyr0_gd 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      ​@@allchicken Hard to "just don't matter about dumb ads" when ads are only things you see.

    • @KhairulHidayat
      @KhairulHidayat 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      ​@@allchickenimagine living with ads everywhere

  • @wrench444
    @wrench444 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +98

    Google dropped its old motto, “Don't be evil,” and exchanged it with, “Do the right thing.
    Right thing for who you ask?
    for Google..................

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Trust me, Google was pretty much *always* evil, even back in the 90s.

  • @thomasw4422
    @thomasw4422 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +179

    Remeber when Google dropped its moto of "don't be evil"?

    • @michaelm1
      @michaelm1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

      That was ages ago. Feels like before I was born. They went evil still in the ancient times.

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Trust me, Google was *always* evil.

    • @Nor-tc8vz
      @Nor-tc8vz 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Now it should be "Be very evil".

    • @TechnoMinded-qp5in
      @TechnoMinded-qp5in 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      NewPipe is your friend.

  • @F_Around_and_find_out
    @F_Around_and_find_out 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +176

    Manifest V3, if it can nerf ad blockers enough it might help Firefox gain popularity again. And if Google do the funny and make the web unusable to other non chromium web browsers, that is a class action lawsuit in the making.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Given all the shady stuff Microsoft got away with pushing Edge and their other services on recent years, I doubt that agency that once threatened to split the company over IE integration in Windows even exists anymore...

    • @NopWorks
      @NopWorks 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Google will get away with it.
      Remember the ShadowDom debacle, when Google deliberately used it to slow down TH-cam for competitors like Firefox & Edge (before Chromium)?

    • @Nosttromo
      @Nosttromo 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      "that is a class action lawsuit in the making."
      not if the governments of the world are in on it

    • @domojestic4155
      @domojestic4155 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Most people don't use adblockers. Hell, most people don't use extensions at all. We're likely to see a 0.5% market share bump, max, because of the V3 stuff. The majority of users won't even notice.

    • @yoshepop
      @yoshepop 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@domojestic4155Meanwhile every single school chromebook in my school containing the adblock+ extension:

  • @TwoWorldTradeCenter
    @TwoWorldTradeCenter 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +183

    0:53 The hilarious part about this is that many modern websites love telling you to download their app, which in most cases is even worse than just using the website in the browser normally.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

      It's more about the lock-in than it is the user experience

    • @stodo1337
      @stodo1337 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Reddit mobile is literally adware

    • @NopWorks
      @NopWorks 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      These days I just install the website as a PWA.
      Works great enough, and doesn't spawn a ton of duplicate Chromium processes.

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      The app is much better for gathering data, and defeats ad-blockers.

    • @ent2220
      @ent2220 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I installed Lineage OS on my phone and without the google apps. I only have a few apps installed now - firefox (where I get the up to date APK directly from github), and 3-4 apps from fdroid. Using the Firefox browser (and of course with a blocker because it supports extensions) is perfect for me. Everything web-based in one place with bookmarks. Much cleaner and less bloated phone, less battery drainage and more privacy, since the apps are anything but private.

  • @AbnormalAbnorman
    @AbnormalAbnorman 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +204

    Me, personally, I quit Chromium after I found out about Manifest v3.

    • @GreyMaria
      @GreyMaria 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      Bad timing. Cease the use of the product on the day the change is forced.
      Only a coordinated attack from the entire userbase _leaving simultaneously_ will have a CHANCE at displacing Google.

    • @endermaster08
      @endermaster08 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same here!

    • @AbnormalAbnorman
      @AbnormalAbnorman 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      @@GreyMaria Chances are too slim IMO. Besides, I had JUST switched from Opera GX to Brave, so building up progress on Brave knowing I would just throw it all away later wasn't worth.
      Edit: P.S.: No chance I was going back to Opera GX either. 💀

    • @cringesh1t427
      @cringesh1t427 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@AbnormalAbnormanquite literally did the same… and I’m not really looking forward to use anything other than brave since I actually like it have you happened to find any decently secure browser similar?

    • @cpucat
      @cpucat 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same

  • @ShamoaKrasieski-xm4ze
    @ShamoaKrasieski-xm4ze 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +90

    I remember when Chrome first launched it was actually slower and crashed more often than any other web browser. However, you couldn't escape it. Google was advertising Chrome everywhere. Even the device driver CD that came with my motherboard had Google Chrome bundled, and checkbox ticked for installation by default. Once Google had everybody using Chrome, by curiosity if nothing else, they were able to convince all major websites to optimize specifically for Chrome. It became a black hole of sorts, with unrelenting gravitation pull.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Nowadays Microsoft is trying the exact same thing with Edge and failing miserably! 🤣
      If current trends continue, Linux might see a bigger market share among Desktop OSes than Edge will among browsers by the end of the year.

    • @THESERIOUSLYSMILE
      @THESERIOUSLYSMILE 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Stop it with the conspiracy theories, please.
      Google just sponsored and slowly took over the best web engine available (Chromium) and then built a solid browser around it.
      People switched out of curiosity and/or due to the marketing push it got, but stayed because it was simply the better browser that kept getting improved.
      Google did not have to "convince" anybody to optimize for Chrome if it was already the dominant browser in the market.
      At some point, even the people developing the very web content Chrome was used to access, were using Chrome themselves, and naturally, their first option to test out their products was Chrome.
      You want someone to blame?
      You can blame Mozilla and the management team behind it, which happily took Google's money in exchange of making sure Firefox stays the worse alternative, especially on Windows, where the vast majority of users were installing and usimg a browser at the time.
      Mozilla had years of experience ahead, a solid marketshare, and what was a very good web engine at the time.
      Not only did they fail suspiciously against all odds in at least keeping their share of users and just keeping up with a Chrome that, as you said, at release was nowhere near as solid as Firefox, but also started to gradually make Firefox worse with each release, while failing to fix or improve on features that were for years their low points and drew instant comparition with the better experience Chrome provided in that regard (e.g. the absolute garbage of a "History" functionality that Firefox has to this day)

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's really not true. At the time, Google and Apple were the ones that had any interest in pushing the adoption of new web tech, so all of the money and development went into webkit and v8. I'm talking many millions of dollars and millions of developer hours.
      After crushing Netscape with IE6, Mirosoft's web team was mostly disbanded, Mozilla didn't really have any resources though they did great work making the Mozilla browser and later Firefox, and Opera barely made any money licensing their server side web rendering tech to sustain their free browsers.
      The new standards from W3C for CSS2 and later HTML5 really made it unfeasible for new rendering engines to be developed, other than Webkit. Google and (the mostly Google funded) Mozilla were the only ones to keep up with the spending needed to implement the new standards. Microsoft and Opera tried and failed.

    • @MrBa143
      @MrBa143 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      "they were able to convince all major websites to optimize specifically for Chrome" -- Yeah thats not really how it works. Why are you writing this nonsense? I am gonna assume this was a joke comment. 🤣

    • @danyal_assi
      @danyal_assi 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LRM12o8no, window ui looking cooler

  • @wfjhDUI
    @wfjhDUI 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +65

    0:41 Safari and Chromium also have a common ancestor codebase.

    • @memetech-
      @memetech- 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      And said ancestor is olden Safari

    • @AXAAZ
      @AXAAZ 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

      That codebase is KHTML

    • @PaulSpades
      @PaulSpades 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@AXAAZ KDEWebKit.

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All modern web browsers are descended from Netscape

  • @korakys
    @korakys 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +41

    They won by advertising. Copious amounts of advertising, and minimalism. Lots of tech savvy people liked Chrome in the beginning because it was "less bloated" than Firefox. This is how they get you: the bloatedness argument.
    Although ironically Firefox also started out as a minimalist browser.

    • @A1stardan
      @A1stardan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They made chrome default in mobiles and unable to uninstall

    • @cewla3348
      @cewla3348 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@A1stardan you can *always* remove files from *any* device. even if it means using another, less locked down device to `rm -rf` the files out of existence.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      I first started using Chrome because of the minimalistic UI. People forget that it was a lot better than everything else at the time.

    • @DaniiiAy
      @DaniiiAy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cewla3348on Android if your rom comes with it, you can only disable it, which I guess is kinda the same thing

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      There's no such thing as a non-bloated web browser any more. There can't be. The web has just grown too complicated - so many different features which must all be supported to ensure compatibility with every site.

  • @tehjamerz
    @tehjamerz 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +152

    --dont-- be evil

  • @phyxer457
    @phyxer457 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +177

    how edge has a higher count than firefox will never make sense to me

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +279

      Being the default web browser for billions of computers is worth something

    • @Laughing_Individual
      @Laughing_Individual 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

      Because most users are not tech savy. They use what's available.

    • @alexanded2383
      @alexanded2383 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Ai features

    • @sanekibeko
      @sanekibeko 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      Because it's installed by default on Windows and you can't even uninstall it if you're outside the EU. Sad but that's the reality.

    • @LupoTosk96
      @LupoTosk96 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      As others said it's default on Windows, but also it is even better than Google Chrome, making the old "IE for downloading another browser" meme obsolete.

  • @bhaswardutta4890
    @bhaswardutta4890 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    I think if adblock stops to work on chromium based browsers a lot of peeps would switch over to firefox based browsers.....

    • @gatorrade1680
      @gatorrade1680 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Or start using pi-hole or a router with integrated adblock. Which is even better because it blocks ads on every device connected to the network.

    • @anon8510
      @anon8510 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

      this is the same kind of logic Linux users use when M$ adds something to Windows that users won't like, thinking there will be an influx of new Linux users, but the reality is the vast majority of people don't even know the most basic stuff about computers, so it is completely irrelevant what these companies push forward

    • @kuwandak
      @kuwandak 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      ​@@anon8510 uh, no. switching browsers is a far easier than switching to a whole new OS, what are you even talking about

    • @anon8510
      @anon8510 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@kuwandak but the idea of switching doesn't even pop on most people's minds, that's my point

    • @sprinklednights
      @sprinklednights 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@kuwandak Depends. For me yes because there's nothing on my web browser, but some like to add crazy integrations that make them depend on a web browser.

  • @CBarrowMusic
    @CBarrowMusic 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    If I can't have an ad blocker I'm not gonna use it. I switched to Firefox a while ago and because of this I'm glad I did.

    • @Rovalowy
      @Rovalowy 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I just finished setting up Firefox, after using Chrome for years. Fuck them.

    • @hemangkorane1797
      @hemangkorane1797 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Use Brave, it has it built-in

    • @Dabluetoohdevicisrealychepheir
      @Dabluetoohdevicisrealychepheir 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I am on android and have firefox.

    • @lazertroll702
      @lazertroll702 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pi-hole project is a viable filter option; speeds page loading by a lot, too 😉

  • @Envido32
    @Envido32 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +68

    "Can a couple of revels fighg back against the browseg hegemony?" Actually yes! Thats how we got Firefox against IExplorer in the first place.

    • @theshadows1416
      @theshadows1416 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      but can fire fox really fight against another search engine GIANT?

    • @aaronwestley3239
      @aaronwestley3239 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have Firefox + uBlock Origin + AdGuard on my phone lol saved me lots of time from intrusive ads and trackers, plus yt mobile is adfree with it 😂

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​​@@theshadows1416No worries, because Google pays Firefox to avoid antitrust and monopoly laws 😂

    • @userre85
      @userre85 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Firefox gets paid by Google

  • @theether5993
    @theether5993 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    Currently servo is developed by Linux foundation.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Yeah, I was glad to hear it's still around and kicking, I wish them the best

  • @nonetrix3066
    @nonetrix3066 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +108

    "You can't make your own browser"
    SerenityOS devs: Hold my beer

    • @PunkHerr
      @PunkHerr 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      Never heard of Serenity.

    • @spaghettiking653
      @spaghettiking653 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      @@PunkHerr No doubt you haven't, but it's famous in the OS dev community because it's a really good hobbyist OS!

    • @lonecoder_cro
      @lonecoder_cro 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😂 thats it

    • @lonecoder_cro
      @lonecoder_cro 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@PunkHerrcheck it out if you like that old skl unix look, everything is build from scratch

  • @camwha5904
    @camwha5904 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    It’s funny how the EU is forcing Apple to allow other browser engines on iOS but in reality it’s just going to lead to most people using chrome engine on instead of safari too. Further killing webkit’s market share.

    • @momsspaghetti4889
      @momsspaghetti4889 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can already use other browsers on IOS

    • @NewDay14
      @NewDay14 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They are all based on webkit. The eu made it possible to have chromium and gecko browsers as well​@@momsspaghetti4889

    • @alexcuevas5633
      @alexcuevas5633 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Now that’s when you know that the EU hates apple at the personal level.

    • @NewDay14
      @NewDay14 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @alexcuevas5633 No the EU just doesn't like monopolies and Apple didn't want to implement Chromium and Geckoview browsers in their app store. If safari is as good as Apple thinks then Safari won't lose market share.

  • @gracicot42
    @gracicot42 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Chromium engine was not made from the ground up. It was actually based on webkit, which itself was based off khtml.

    • @emanuellandeholm5657
      @emanuellandeholm5657 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nothing is done "ex nihilo" these days. Too expensive.
      Scratch the surface and you can often find some crufty, old COBOL routines underneath.

  • @Roblox_SBPepperminion
    @Roblox_SBPepperminion 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Give Google the Standard Oil treatment.

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Fat Chance. The US government is practically on board with everything Google is doing, and they absolutely love it. In fact, according to my research, Google was originally a government experiment for crying out loud. They can basically dance around the law as much as they want anyways.

    • @YourIdeologyIsDelusional
      @YourIdeologyIsDelusional 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      "But muh free market."

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hate to disappoint you, but the US government is practically on board with Google. In fact, according to my research, Google was originally a government experiment, making them impervious to any law you throw at them. Keep in mind, Google is from a place where lobbying/bribing is 100% legal.

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hate to disappoint you, but the US government is practically on board with Google, making them impervious to any law you throw at them.

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I hate to disappoint you, but that will simply never happen, as Google is simply too powerful. More powerful than any governing body of the world.

  • @hiroshimanagasaki616
    @hiroshimanagasaki616 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    >Why is... everything.. chrome..?

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      The prophecy has come true!
      ... Not exactly how we interpreted it, but it certainly has become true! 🤣

  • @unknown-qp8pk
    @unknown-qp8pk 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    almost all of mozilla’s revenue comes from google through royalties, I wonder if it's to avoid antitrust related problems or some other kind of control strategy.

    • @A1stardan
      @A1stardan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      It is to escape monopoly laws

    • @BvngeeCord
      @BvngeeCord 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      As soon as Mozilla and Firefox are off the map, Google is a target for antitrust lawsuits. So of course they are going to fund their “competitor”!

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Google pays Mozilla to keep their mouth shut on Google's monopoly over the internet.

    • @valkohattu
      @valkohattu 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@A1stardan😊😊😊😊😊

  • @Solesteam
    @Solesteam 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Me (A Firefox User): *_Laughs in somewhat chrome-proof_*

    • @FurryCuddler
      @FurryCuddler 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      $HOME/.mozilla//chrome

  • @cev3522
    @cev3522 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    Me: *downloads Chrome to Windows*
    Microsoft: *Wants me to use Edge*
    Also Edge that is based on chromium:

    • @novaTopFlex
      @novaTopFlex 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Switch to Linux! Use an open-source web browser, particularly one that is not based on Chromium!

    • @cev3522
      @cev3522 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @novaTopFlex Isn't that a Penguin that pops up on Android phones when it's broken or something?

  • @ettoreatalan8303
    @ettoreatalan8303 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Google did *not* develop Chrome from the ground up. Google Chrome was initially based on Webkit from Apple, which in turn was based on KHTML from the KDE project. Google Chrome is now based on Blink, a fork of Webkit initiated by Google.

  • @destroyer2973
    @destroyer2973 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The SerenityOS project is rolling their own browser engine.

  • @roccociccone597
    @roccociccone597 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I actively try not to use chrome

  • @youkofoxy
    @youkofoxy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    3:30
    Is not build from the ground Up, the chromium is a derivative of Webkit that is a derivative of KHTML, a tech developed by KDE way back, before the dragon mascot.
    Yep, Konqueror is the foundation of Chromium.
    However, I think they did not picked much from it.
    Also, Mozilla Firefox is based on Netscape that is a sucessor to Mosaic (if it use some mosaic code, I do not know).
    So if you are talking about lineage, Firefox is the king.
    As side note, Opera was a independent development by the looks of it.

    • @DGTelevsionNetwork
      @DGTelevsionNetwork 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Opera started as the Norwegian version of AOL and then slowly changed into a standalone browser using their presto engine that at the time was one of the best in terms of speed and resource reliability. I never had it crash once when I was using it in the 2010s. I'm not even going to lie, I wish they would have kept using it instead of ditching it for chromium.

  • @DGTelevsionNetwork
    @DGTelevsionNetwork 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Opera changing from their rock solid presto engine to chromium really set the stage for other browsers to follow suit.

  • @elsandosgrande
    @elsandosgrande 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Regarding Firefox and Servo, as I understand it, Servo is an experimental browser project written basically entirely in Rust. The rendering engine component specifically is called WebRender and has replaced Gecko inside of Firefox years ago, which makes Mozilla dropping the Servo team even more baffling of a move.

  • @fahimemroz9141
    @fahimemroz9141 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Eric, I recently discovered your channel and I love your videos.
    Please keep them coming.

  • @user-gh4lv2ub2j
    @user-gh4lv2ub2j 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    **LAUGHS IN FIREFOX**

  • @voyager1150
    @voyager1150 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +62

    people who are saying "developers are lazy" should try to develop and maintain medium-size project in their free time for at least a year.

    • @aravindmuthu5748
      @aravindmuthu5748 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      yes please.As a developer myself, this needs to be said.

    • @BobAg_
      @BobAg_ 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      As a developer I can confirm we are lazy. Nothing wrong with that, that where innovation comes from. The best apps were written to make life easier. It's also where abstraction comes from. People not wanting to write boilerplate code all day.

    • @Gameplayer55055
      @Gameplayer55055 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Inventing a new js framework every day instead of using query selectors and fetch

    • @nelinearni
      @nelinearni 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Gameplayer55055 shit take lol

    • @Gameplayer55055
      @Gameplayer55055 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nelinearni no, you don't need spa in every single app. Sometimes the multi page app is way simpler (more "lazy") 🦥

  • @TheGlitchyMario
    @TheGlitchyMario 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I use Firefox with a privacy focused profile, and I really like it! If something says I need chrome, I have a browser agent spoofer.

  • @skyefarnan2311
    @skyefarnan2311 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Another reason to use Firefox is cause it has a cute fox as its logo

  • @tejassharma8569
    @tejassharma8569 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I'm one of those rebels. A somewhat hardened Firefox + Adguard extension.
    On the plus side, Apple forcing Safari (at least till now) on iPhones and iPads will provide some diversity as people are forced to develop for that, too (and they could make their code simpler, hopefully, to work in Firefox). But then the recent developments regarding lawsuits against Apple are going to screw even that up.

    • @iaqivalpro
      @iaqivalpro 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      u should use ublock origin instead of adguard its better

  • @peq42_
    @peq42_ 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    moved to firefox after the DRM thing, and I dont plan on going back

  • @lejacobofficial
    @lejacobofficial 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Tbh the only reason why i switched to firefox is because of speed, cuz youtube was slowing down so bad, it was unbearable, and with the 180hz monitor, its absolutely flying!

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The new Firefox is actually pretty fast now

    • @_loss_
      @_loss_ 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah Firefox is a really smooth experience nowadays

  • @AndiPandi-yj7rc
    @AndiPandi-yj7rc 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is why people really really reeeeeal need to start using firefox again. There must always be alternatives

  • @handofstranger
    @handofstranger 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

    FireFox pride, worldwide.

    • @TechnoMinded-qp5in
      @TechnoMinded-qp5in 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Firefox needs to stop using chrome data first or even relying on it and make an equal amount of extensions and themes synchronizing with chrome still puts your data at risk Alphabet thinks they're gods we can show them that they aren't and give them a wake up call time to ban Google.

  • @AQDuck
    @AQDuck 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Remember that time when JXL almost became the perfect replacement for JPG, but Google _completely_ killed support for it in the Chromium engine in favor of their own WebP. Every chromium-based browser was just forced to deal with it and no webdev would use it when only 8% of users could use it (Firefox and Safari)

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yep, that's another good example of the problems of letting Google control the web browser.

  • @Beryesa.
    @Beryesa. 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Since when Blink was made from ground up? What happened to Google's WebKit fork which itself came from KHTML lol

  • @betag24cn
    @betag24cn 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    wait, people actually use that samsung web browser?

    • @A1stardan
      @A1stardan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It's great on mobile

    • @lucascamelo3079
      @lucascamelo3079 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Peoples usually use what comes pre installed. I tried it one time, kinda bloated for my taste.

    • @shivamguchhait
      @shivamguchhait 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      frr i tried to make it my main browser and later on i realized it's awful

    • @rylamistrandall6517
      @rylamistrandall6517 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can play YT videos and it stays on while using other apps, that's a W for me. Tell me if there are any other browser that allows you to do this too though, because Chrome doesn't even let you, even though the performance is slick af gotta admit.

  • @darkwoodmovies
    @darkwoodmovies 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I was a web developer in Silicon Valley for some larger known companies. The only time we ever opened and tested on another browser than Chrome was if a user reported a ticket with a browser-specific error. Chrome was often the only browser on our laptops.

  • @scottydude456
    @scottydude456 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Shoutout to everyone who got a chrome ad before the vid 💀

  • @D.von.N
    @D.von.N 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    As long as I can filter out ads I'll use Brave, and Firefox. Once I won't be able to do that I'll stick to the Firefox and use a chromium browser for very specific tasks that won't work in Firefox. At some point either I'll wean myself off the web and go back to books and dvds, or some genius will come with a novelty browser that will be able to work with most chromium stuff without chromium and that will be a breakthrough. Sometimes the solutions are simpler than they seem.

  • @clockblower6414
    @clockblower6414 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    Linux user chiming in to appreciate Firefox!

  • @HunterEddie
    @HunterEddie 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Eric Murphy keep uploading my guy

  • @nonoka5226
    @nonoka5226 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love your videos!

  • @memetech-
    @memetech- 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    2:37 the only reason it's better is because it's Safari based, but on non-Apple platforms, and Apple usually keeps their expert development to themselves ("walled garden") to better integrate it with their own platform. Chrome, put simply, didn't.

    • @qlx-i
      @qlx-i 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ??? but webkit?

    • @memetech-
      @memetech- 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@qlx-i isn't WebKit from Apple?

    • @qlx-i
      @qlx-i 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@memetech-Yes, but it's developed by others as well. Webkit-gtk, for example is used in lots of smaller browsers (gnome web, vimb, etc.)

    • @loendsti
      @loendsti 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      both webkit and the blink are based on KHTML , sadly KHTML isn't around anymore.

  • @FabianBarajas
    @FabianBarajas 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I fuck with waterfox

    •  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      do NOT say that out loud

    • @hoovysimulator2518
      @hoovysimulator2518 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

      THE ONLY "water fox" I had known before this comment was Vaporeon 💀

    • @NopWorks
      @NopWorks 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I put the liquid in waterfox

    • @vulcanitu2578
      @vulcanitu2578 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      What a tarded way to say it

    • @destroyer4929
      @destroyer4929 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Please do not the waterfox

  • @Gameplayer55055
    @Gameplayer55055 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If any 2nd webpage is a react babel then why not making a react browser that runs typescript and react natively

  • @rrenildopereiraa
    @rrenildopereiraa 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    awesome video usually i don't watch 10 mins vid but this one i didn't even noticed the time passing by xd

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Get those attention span gains

  • @lorenzobuero7115
    @lorenzobuero7115 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    i installed firefox some days ago and the browsing engine was chrome by default, i changed to duck duck go, but i heard that they had shared user data at least twice, does someone know another browsing engine i could use?

    • @A1stardan
      @A1stardan 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Which device are u using?

    • @cewla3348
      @cewla3348 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      1. install librewolf
      2. use librewolf

    • @lorenzobuero7115
      @lorenzobuero7115 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@A1stardan windows laptop

    • @lorenzobuero7115
      @lorenzobuero7115 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cewla3348 maybe i will give it a try later, but i heard it does not work well with youtube and some other google pages... what browsing engine does librewolf use?

    • @warriorz9871
      @warriorz9871 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lorenzobuero7115 Settings, Apps, Default apps

  • @vjollila96
    @vjollila96 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Firefox gang here!

  • @cvoidboy
    @cvoidboy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    waitin' for the servo browser engine x3

  • @bloxy4074
    @bloxy4074 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact that mypal uses gecko *I think * is Impressive

  • @omega_sine
    @omega_sine 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I hope that the ladybird browser is able to bring some much needed competition to the browser market. Still too early for daily use but it’s nice to see something completely new.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Yeah, I respect the hustle, but I don't see it gaining any real traction unless he can get some major funding.

    • @HonestObserver
      @HonestObserver 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EricMurphyxyz Never bet against a 10X Scandinavian programmer. Torvalds, Stroustrup, Hejlsberg...

  • @SharunKumar
    @SharunKumar 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh damn the about box at 2:53 is so nostalgic!

  • @StefTechSurfer
    @StefTechSurfer 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great video however at the end it kind of failed to mention the positives on browser engine divserity.

  • @amoggoma430
    @amoggoma430 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    unless it's on ios, everything is safari under the hood

    • @brujyyy
      @brujyyy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      wel it was the case but European regulations required apple to let other browsers not using Webkit under the hood

    • @amoggoma430
      @amoggoma430 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@brujyyy good for them, sadly i'm not in the EU region

  • @josephlore8636
    @josephlore8636 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The good news is that all chromium browsers besides Chrome and Edge will still support manifest V2 extensions. The bad news is that all of those browsers has a low user base, so manifest V2 developers will have no incentive to maintain their extensions in the future.

    • @cewla3348
      @cewla3348 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      wait, what? they're forcing v3? the shitty prototype that's hell to develop with? (i've tried, and my extension was broken until i changed the version from 3 to 2 in my manifest.html)

    • @ShockInazuma
      @ShockInazuma 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I mean, I've seen a lot of Brave users. I'm a Vivaldi user myself. And despite being told, I'm sure there's still plenty of Opera GX users.

  • @mrschoko565
    @mrschoko565 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    the thing is that opera gx just a chromium browser is with a few features and a breeze of Chinese government. I personally use the Brave Browser because it dose what it needs to do and it’s private as well. The best browsers are those that just do what they need to do.

  • @YUBuliMi
    @YUBuliMi 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    do you happen to use graphen os? or do you not have a pixel

  • @YdenMk-II
    @YdenMk-II 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I remember an Edge dev mentioning one of the final straws of scrapping the old edge engine was when Google made a change that made TH-cam load slower in their engine.

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wow, that's very interesting

    • @zeal9442
      @zeal9442 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EricMurphyxyz Alphabet Inc is so corrupt, it's unreal.

  • @jakez6851
    @jakez6851 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Mozilla Firefox all the way. 😊

  • @santi456852
    @santi456852 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I use Firefox for this reason, but the developer tools are slow on big web pages that make me want to rip my eyes out

  • @SuperLlama88888
    @SuperLlama88888 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember having to use vendor prefixes for full support in all browsers...
    ...now, they're not bothering to add vendor prefixes for browser-exclusive features

  • @AnalyticMinded
    @AnalyticMinded 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I was an early adopter of Firefox back in the day, but switched to Chromium-based in the last 5 years or so because it started giving me headaches. Right now I'm happily using Vivaldi since the devs have stated that they will resist Manifest V3. But if they lose the battle, I might just have to revert to Firefox... begrudgingly. Hopefully the US or the EU breaks up this monopoly somehow (will not hold my breath).

    • @the_mastermage
      @the_mastermage 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Once you go Vivaldi you can never go back. Its bad like realy bad.

    • @TrentonMatthews
      @TrentonMatthews 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      you can always go the water fox route.

    • @AnalyticMinded
      @AnalyticMinded 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TrentonMatthews It's not the branding that bothers me. It's the performance and compatibility.

    • @lucascamelo3079
      @lucascamelo3079 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Firefox works pretty well for me. I have chome installed as a backup browser, but I don't even remember last time I used it.

    • @yourdailytoilet5962
      @yourdailytoilet5962 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠​⁠@@AnalyticMindedfirefox and the rest of it's forked browsers aren't even that slow unless you run 100 tabs daily and compatibility isn't that much of an issue either. The only time I won't use Firefox is if I'm lazy to dive deep into the settings or if Mozilla messes something up again for the 100th time.

  • @samjiman
    @samjiman 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I use LibreWolf and Brave myself.

    • @wiwita63
      @wiwita63 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      brave uses chromium, librewolf is based on firefox i think

    • @samjiman
      @samjiman 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@wiwita63 LibreWolf is a fork of Firefox, so yes.

    • @lucascamelo3079
      @lucascamelo3079 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Abadom Brave, embrace libreWolf

  • @djunaferdinur2075
    @djunaferdinur2075 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What engine does the browser on a Chinese smartphone use?

  • @M3K1E
    @M3K1E 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The biggest problem is that some shopping and banking sites barely work or just don't work at all in Firefox

    • @loendsti
      @loendsti 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      strange, they all work on firefox, in my computer., perks of living in one of the so called third world countries, where monopoly laws are actually applied, lol

  • @hoomanbing
    @hoomanbing 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    They're probably not going to kill competition because if they did then they could be sued for Monopoly

    • @hoovysimulator2518
      @hoovysimulator2518 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Correct! That is why they pay quite a lot to keep Firefox up (afaik it is just Firefox, as other Mozilla products ask for donations to keep them up). Also keeps Google as the default search engine (though to this again, what is the other option? SearX?).

  • @fueledbycoffee583
    @fueledbycoffee583 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Developer here: we use chromium because its chewed work. We dont have to create a js engine, layour engine, renderer, and on top of that be compliant with the dozen of obscure APIs. Also yes, google make the shoots about features, but if you are making your own browser you fork and turn off what u dont need since most chromiun features are behind a feature flag so we have plenty of liberties regarding how chromiun behaves

    • @EricMurphyxyz
      @EricMurphyxyz  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, I don't fault you at all for using Chromium. It's a great tool and definitely makes the job easier.

    • @fueledbycoffee583
      @fueledbycoffee583 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@EricMurphyxyz I do aknowledge some cool projects and even other big corporate backed alternatives like apple own webkit engine that powers safari. The problem wiith webkit is that IS HARD TO USE. We are a small team with limited R&D time and budget. so we need to go for a no brainer

    • @loendsti
      @loendsti 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fueledbycoffee583 SURF browser ( suckless ) has integrated webkit with almost zero budget. suckless is a german based software thingy / guys

  • @Ubaids_VMs
    @Ubaids_VMs 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    chromium is not entirely base-less it's based on apple webkit which is ALSO based on ktml.
    so technically it shoud be "How *KTML* took over the world".

  • @nesterus83
    @nesterus83 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As far as browsers go nowadays I have _REALLY_ started to miss the old versions of Opera that still used their own presto engine especially now when everything is just a variations of chromium with little to no differences between them.

  • @kongstrong88
    @kongstrong88 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Tbh I use Brave. I simply can't stand Firefox. Mostly because of it's UI but I also have a feeling that everytime I use it it slows down after a few days.

    • @D.von.N
      @D.von.N 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does it need clearing cache more often?

    • @user-od4gs3iu4t
      @user-od4gs3iu4t 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      every browser might become sluggish if you open 20+ tabs, and half of it yt. If you need a lot of tabs be ready to get enough RAM in your system, as well as a good processor with enough cache memory

    • @hoovysimulator2518
      @hoovysimulator2518 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I use both on mobile. Mobile Firefox supports addons too, which Brave doesn't!
      Firefox just has an awful problem that it can't play videos with weird resolutions for some reason (and it isn't even consistent between devices!).

    • @betag24cn
      @betag24cn 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      after a week of suspending, i have to close it, yes

  • @44Hd22
    @44Hd22 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Firefox uses less resources. That’s the reason I use it.

  • @iSamYTBackup
    @iSamYTBackup 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i switched to Firefox in like November and i love it but majority of people won't
    let's be honest for a sec you can't convince people to switch no matter how hard you try
    it's like the android vs ios thing or windows vs linux
    people aren't gonna switch to the better options because they are used to the norm

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Microsoft DID convince me to switch a week ago, after years of trying me. 😅
      ... to switch my OS that is, not my browser! 🐧🤣

    • @iSamYTBackup
      @iSamYTBackup 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@LRM12o8 i can't really switch to linux on my pc since my gpu is so old that dxvk isn't an option and i can't on my laptop because good old multisim won't run in wine i tried
      but eh i just use a cracked version they ain't getting a cent for a license both Microsoft and national instruments

  • @morgan3392
    @morgan3392 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Lol, I'm so used to people making videos either exactly 10 minutes or 10:01 to have midroll ads that seeing a video at 9:59 is strange to me.

  • @damnthisisabadname
    @damnthisisabadname 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    I use firefox and it becomes harder to recommend each passing day

    • @Mememaxing
      @Mememaxing 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I use librewolf btw

    • @Skelterbane69
      @Skelterbane69 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Floorp and librewolf gang

  • @sprinklednights
    @sprinklednights 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Computers and the internet should've not been accessible to normal people in my opinion.

    •  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      says who? do you realize how much profit it made?

    • @anon8510
      @anon8510 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      what makes you so outstanding, then?

    • @sprinklednights
      @sprinklednights 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@anon8510 What do you mean?

    • @sprinklednights
      @sprinklednights 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It did, and I dislike that the internet and technology have been abused only for profit reasons

    • @kuwandak
      @kuwandak 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@anon8510 the fact that he even knows that channel we're posting comments on

  • @Prometheus_Alt
    @Prometheus_Alt 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As much as "screw Chromium", nobody really is as competent enough.

  • @infinitivez
    @infinitivez 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Will have to follow suit" ? huh? Unless Google is going closed source, or somehow embeds or obfuscates their switch to manifest V3, Brave will continue to support V2 base controls. There's already a host of things Brave specifically targets outside the Chromium norms. Not sure how this would be any different.

  • @Sithhy
    @Sithhy 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would use Firefox as my browser of choice but I don't like how the theme I use on Brave/Chrome looks on it + the way it randomly throws around the synced tabs instead of keeping them in order like Brave does, makes me not want to use Firefox as each time I open tabs from one device on another they're scattered & I have to sort them, which get tirying really quickly

  • @sevenredundent7256
    @sevenredundent7256 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I mean Google has the best marketing campaign to get people onto Chrome, ever, by simply telling people "you can have a better experience on Chrome" every time they go to Google something if they're not using Chrome already.
    I get that Google has the money to employ the engineers to deliver, circumstantially, but people really shouldn't be as trusting of big business.
    It just sucks that Firefox is at the mercy of Google and if it wasn't for Google keeping them afloat, they'd probably have gone under by now.

  • @Alexifeu
    @Alexifeu 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    There are many browser based on firefox too. Palmoon, Waterfox and other xD I use Chrome and sometimes Firefox or Waterfox for things chrome cannot do.

  • @EbenieAmazon
    @EbenieAmazon 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    "Everything is Chrome in the future Squidward"

  • @scarletsence
    @scarletsence 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Have been using Waterfox since your video about browsers. I know that i can just use Firefox and mess with configs little bit that way it would be better, but my lazy ass don't wants to engage with tons of configurations so i prefer casual Waterfox user friendly settings for that matter.

  • @Manavine
    @Manavine 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm using Floop. Might as well use something that's meant to be a bit more user friendly instead of hardened, but at the same time, is supported in a way that would work.

  • @carylittleford8980
    @carylittleford8980 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I do like Firefox's tab handling. I synced my phone's open tabs after 2 years to my desktop firefox and asked it to open them... It asked 'Are you sure you want to open 5019 tabs?.
    I mean my phone's firefox was getting a little sluggish but 5019!. Glad firefox only loads the last viewed tabs contents :-) And I now know I have a terrible youtube and news 'i'll watch that later' problem ;-)

  • @copi4766
    @copi4766 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You know what
    what if firefox made an UI overhaul and a offspring browser which used the same Gekho engine but the UI and the general functionality will be the same as a chrome browser with firefoxes Extensions and technical details. This would make it easier for people from chrome to switch to firefox and then all the functionality would be retained.

  • @SeahamV2
    @SeahamV2 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Question, when I log into something on Opera GX, does google know about this?....

  • @user-od2qc2od1y
    @user-od2qc2od1y 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    One browser engine controlling almost the entire market is bad for competition

    • @tuhin.sarkar__
      @tuhin.sarkar__ 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly! I'm glad people like us exist who actually understand the gravity of this situation.

  • @maxevocal
    @maxevocal 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On an old laptop, i could not get chrome to run no matter what i did. After using internet explorer to redownload chrome (and have it not work, again) i switched to firefox and ive never looked back.

  • @Cuwubiq
    @Cuwubiq 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i actually prefer chromium in some ways, already the fact that the chromium version core will be about the same for all the browsers out there... In fact, a lot of features i, as a webdev have been playing with dont even have support on firefox. this monopoly over the core of the browser ensures for us developers that you wont have to optimize the webapp for so many exclusive browsers. I'm fed up with optimizing web for safari and firefox, imagine if there were another 3 new cores that i'd have to check as the rendering of css there would have different behavior or wouldn't have that features whatsoever. Also, to a point the whole chromium core is opensource. it's obviously subjective opinion but in my opinion there's nothing bad on the approach where majority of browsers now use chromium as their core. (not even talking about the w3 compatibility that browsers must be guaranteeing)

  • @Gabriel70735
    @Gabriel70735 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It’s funny how I get a Google chrome ad in the middle of this vid😭😂