Good video but after seeing a few other I would advice that you do a full cycle, up and down and start and end each process with the drill running outside the cylinder and not inside the cylinder.
I don't agree, with the balls moving before you have them inside the cylinder you have a chance to hit the deck before landing the hone inside the cylinder and upon removing the hone. You can also cause scratching inside the cylinder by trying to jam it in while having the hone moving.The way he shows it is just fine, also those marks right down the bottom of the cylinder aren't crucial as they are below the piston stroke and wont hurt a thing. You can run the hone lightly over them again like he did to clean them up.
@@Seeeeyaaaa YES, you DO want the hone spinning as you enter or exit the bore... The LAST thing you want is vertical scratches running up and down the bore. You won't "miss" and grind any copious amounts of the deck off. If you cant hit the hole, practice first, or give up and pay someone to do it.
Hi. Next time put a cardboard box on top of the block, and get the hone spinning in it, then push the hone in. (The box will only have 4 sides, no top or bottom tho) make the job cleaner.
@@jamesoneil8146 It pushes too hard against the walls. The ball hone is tight in the bore so don't "force" it with a 45 degree angle. It's much like when you polish paint with a high speed buffer. Let the weight of the tool do the work, don't push down, (forcing) it.
Ignorant question…. When you were honing the cylinder, I didn’t see you switch the drill to reverse. How do you get the 45 degree cross hatch pattern if you don’t home clock/counter clock wise?
I found out that honing shoulders with Dingle balls works very well when you use knock loose chemicals as a honing solution. Motor oil is definitely the wrong chemicals to be used for honing transmission fluid would have been a better solution, like I said knock or loose works great it's a lot like holding oil they use in the machines.
Those things are ok for crosshatching but wont correct an out of round cyl only make it worse. A true stone hone guarantees that the rings will seat properly your only guessing !
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Good video but after seeing a few other I would advice that you do a full cycle, up and down and start and end each process with the drill running outside the cylinder and not inside the cylinder.
I don't agree, with the balls moving before you have them inside the cylinder you have a chance to hit the deck before landing the hone inside the cylinder and upon removing the hone. You can also cause scratching inside the cylinder by trying to jam it in while having the hone moving.The way he shows it is just fine, also those marks right down the bottom of the cylinder aren't crucial as they are below the piston stroke and wont hurt a thing. You can run the hone lightly over them again like he did to clean them up.
Nonetheless his video showed that the lines were not 45 degrees and many were straight
Correct. This matches what BRM says, but they just make the ball hones, so what would they know??? 🙄
@@Seeeeyaaaa YES, you DO want the hone spinning as you enter or exit the bore... The LAST thing you want is vertical scratches running up and down the bore. You won't "miss" and grind any copious amounts of the deck off. If you cant hit the hole, practice first, or give up and pay someone to do it.
Hi. Next time put a cardboard box on top of the block, and get the hone spinning in it, then push the hone in. (The box will only have 4 sides, no top or bottom tho) make the job cleaner.
Looking good man! I'll be doing some of this on my FE 360 soon. Thanks for the videos!
Thanks!
So I was told never to use scotch bright on a block because of uneven wear and aluminum oxide particulate getting inside. What are your thoughts?
Hogwash.
I think 3m even recommends not using them on engines
Hi sir,what is the name of this honing tool and where can I get them.
Great, that ball hone and the stone cutting machine, which one works better for this procedure?
Moral of the story is always stroke the shit out of it 👍
I bet the engine enjoyed that!
As lubricant I always use Engine Gunk cleaner. It's a good lube & cleaner in one
Is it better than blades hone ?
What about the importance of grit, are there many different grit and if so which is best to start and to finish or does 180 work with all
0:50
To deglaze only, just like he did. It is recommended to use 240 grit, but if it’s not available 220 can be used.
Do you just align it with the hole or do you use a certain angle when honing with the brush.
Keep it level with the deck, not at an angle. Let the balls do the work..
@@bluesky-ud9wg why not 45 degrees genuinely curious I was taught this so just wondering
@@jamesoneil8146 It pushes too hard against the walls. The ball hone is tight in the bore so don't "force" it with a 45 degree angle. It's much like when you polish paint with a high speed buffer. Let the weight of the tool do the work, don't push down, (forcing) it.
@@bluesky-ud9wg Thansk for the reply and the explanation as well!
@@jamesoneil8146 NP
Sometimes you have to stroke it hard
What is the name of the product in the red can you used as cleaner to wipe out the cylinders?
CRC Brakecleen
Ignorant question…. When you were honing the cylinder, I didn’t see you switch the drill to reverse. How do you get the 45 degree cross hatch pattern if you don’t home clock/counter clock wise?
Hone spins while going up and down which creates a helix or 45° pattern.
@@HTMR ok thank you very much. I’ll be doing that this weekend on a 2009 Sentra block. Thanks again
Curious, how’d this engine hold up since?
Runs great: th-cam.com/video/QYY7s7-Mxsg/w-d-xo.html
Looks good. Why not take it to machine shop? Just curious🤔
Because this is a junkyard budget build.
@@HTMR DIY gotcha 👌 I wish have a boring machine for home use.
"you're going to see me stroke it more than it spins" -- ah yes
Haha
I found out that honing shoulders with Dingle balls works very well when you use knock loose chemicals as a honing solution. Motor oil is definitely the wrong chemicals to be used for honing transmission fluid would have been a better solution, like I said knock or loose works great it's a lot like holding oil they use in the machines.
very cool, will the honing process work for VW/Audi as well?
😂
No it only works for Chevy
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What size hone is that
The cylinder I have is scratched and cannot be used with the piston,can I heal the scratch and use it?
No. Depends on depth of scratch
No bore gauging to blueprint it?
I plan on taking measurements.
red tip is 180grit
Soooo dumb question.... what if you do this for a few seconds..... with out engine oil lubricating the hone??? haha
Not lots but certainly not advisable and if done at speed you'll wear both quickly
Saved me money from the machine shop
Never stop while pulling it out you’ll leave uneven cuts
Yes: pull out, then finish.
@@saulspringmind1013 does it matter where to finish
Shes gonna be sweet man!
Can't wait!
This is NOT how you hone. Good way to F up your cylinders though.
Please explain then ICE.....
@@HTMR I dont need to explain it. You demonstrated it.
@@HTMR You also did not hone anything, you just deglazed it. Your cylinder is still wavy as a waffle.
Those things are ok for crosshatching but wont correct an out of round cyl only make it worse. A true stone hone guarantees that the rings will seat properly your only guessing !
You are correct, they are just to condition the surface for new rings.
No hone will correct a out of round cylinder. You only hone a cylinder that has been bored.