@@samrogers5090 Oh, thank you for informing me about the commenter's intentions, .. You're so very intelligent🙄... Of course anyone who thinks this movie is good is going to believe anyone who criticizes it is just 'a troll'. You people are clueless .... You won't be rewatching this TURD in a year or two because it's pretty obvious what a hollow, boring movie it really is. People just got too invested and emotionally positioned themselves where they just had to like it.... It's simple confirmation bias. It's not a good movie, it's incredibly mediocre and it's definitely not a good Batman movie. It is a TURD.
What I enjoy about this scene (and the movie as a whole), is that it actually makes me respect Batman way more than other interpretations. Lots of people seem to have an issue with this interpretation of the character because it shows him having weaknesses and messing up constantly. For me, that's exactly what I enjoyed about this film. The fact that he feels absolute terror before jumping, makes it all the more impressive that he actually jumps mere seconds later. Also the fact that the wing suit is clearly something he never planned on using gives a kind of gravity to the whole situation. It means that gliding isn't just a walk in the park, but rather something that could kill you over a slightest mistake. It means that even for him this feat requires actual skill, determination and courage. This Batman might be more reckless, and more prone to error than what we've seen before, but I don't think any previous iteration has shown this level of commitment and bravery.
I absolutely loved that too! I wouldn't say he never actually intended to use it. I assume he tested it, but in remote places where there weren't towering buildings to fly into. The test runs would be under controlled, ideal circumstances. This field use was in a completely uncontrolled circumstances, so the reality of the incredible danger of it would suddenly hit him as he reaches the edge of the building. What's so great to me about this interpretation is how it constantly shifts back and forth between Batman the grandiose persona, and Bruce Wayne in a ridiculous costume trying and failing to fully become that grandiose persona. It happens throughout the film. He stalls out the Batmobile right in the middle of its grand introduction, then bursts it through a fiery car crash to capture to the Penguin, and then reveals he doesn't know enough Spanish to understand the RIddler's riddle, earning the ironic moniker "world's greatest detective." This is a story about a man trying to be a superhero, trying to erase or deny the mortal, fallible, human part of himself that holds him back, and having it constantly rearing up and getting in his way. When he reaches that ledge and suddenly draws back in terror, you catch a glimpse of the real person beneath the fantasy persona he wears to protect himself from fear, pain, etc. It's only when he finds a way to integrate his humanity into the Batman persona that he finds what he's been searching for.
@@rottensquid Well put. That evolution is also clearly displayed in the three scenes of him entering the club. First as Batman, second as the man underneath, and last as both of them integrated into something greater.
@@robbanbobban2 Right, that's a really great observation. One initial "complaint" I had with my friend when we first saw the film was what a tank Batman is, that he rarely utilized stealth, that he just walked up to the enemy with reckless bravado. But I realize now that this was the point. In his self-righteousness, he was daring the world to destroy him. It's only when he reintegrates his two halves that he starts using stealth, utilizing the Batman persona rather than inhabiting it full-time, working smart, not hard, as it were.
Well they also made a big point in the movie to show that this is Year 2 for him. He's still very new to all this Batman stuff which I personally liked since it's not an origin story but it's also not him in his prime. Most likely in the next movie he's going to be very good at gliding.
The practical shot of the cape "transforming" into the wingsuit looks so much better than the Marvel-esque CGI shot, especially since we see them back to back here
The moment where he's just about to jump and freaks out is one of my favourite moments in the entire movie. Eventually, he doesn't freak out, but for now, he does, which is completely understandable.
I get that the tech of the cape in Dark Knight is plausible and looks cool but the fact that they resort to a real wingsuit in this movie is solid if they're really pushing for realism. But nothing beats that giant gliding bat wingspan cape though lol
Agreed. As much as I love the "grounded" Batman, what's omitted from this particular film is the near-supernatural effect Batman creates. He has this great costume, but he doesn't really use it to frighten people, or evoke the sort of vampiric monstrousness he occasionally summons up in the comics. I feel like there's a balance of groundedness and pulpy fiction with Batman, that no movie has ever achieved. No one seems able to take the premise seriously while also making it fun. The films have veered wildly from overly serious to cartoonishly absurd. And while they've all been successful in their own way (except for Batman and Robin, obviously) none of them have struck that balance, creating a world that lets Batman fully be Batman.
@@PikeBishop1 Right. That was the whole point of that great bit in the investigation room where Flass is giving his account of the attack while everyone laughs. This film's Batman, occasionally, manages to spin an impression of being the baddest MF in the world, but not quite an otherworldly being. It's my only real quibble. He has this great costume, but he doesn't quite use it to its full effect. Even John Wick carried a more supernatural mystique.
@@rottensquid Totally agree. He just walks onto crime scenes surrounded by cops who don't even respect him. Not exactly the aura batman should be exuding.
@@PikeBishop1 See, that part I liked. I think there's something magical to be teased out of that dichotomy, the otherworldly aura that goes with his legend, and the equally stunning reality of the ordinary man who created that aura.
@@oddhominem this was the most “batman” movie we’ve got to date, sure the dark knight is a better movie but the batman is a better BATMAN movie focusing on bruce and his disconnection from society and his inability to distinguish himself from his alter ego as we see his progression in which he realizes he needs to be more, he needs to become a symbol of hope, hence the transition from vengeance to justice
Just as fanart I once made this Batman design where his cape turns into a wingsuit, very much like this. It was great to see someone put that idea on the big screen!
@@tim_soup7099 it was ridiculous how Bruce survived eating shit the way he did in the new movie. Nolan gliding looked way cooler btw and the pseudoscientific explanation of how his cape works was interesting.
Wdym? Parachute is pulled and catches on the bridge, lowering the gforce. He lands on the back of the bus, rolls off, bounces a bit. All in a suit that withstood just about every type of ammunition and an explosion.
Nvm he hit the under side of the bridge which would've been the worst hit and definitely the least believable, but to say this was the moment your suspension of disbelief broke is still ridiculous when you compare it to alot of other scenes in this film and in Nolan's trilogy, which was also a realistic, grounded approach.
@@chaddaddywarden4349 The Nolan trilogy goes down hill after Batman Begins, personally I think TDK is overrated but it absolutely destroys "The Batman" in terms of quality. Personally I thought Batman Begins was the movie that should've gotten the praise. It flew under the radar with a lot of people, which I thought was a shame. It's an absolute classic ... It had a focus that the others didn't. Yeah, The Batman is a piece of crap though. I think this zoomer generation just needs something to call their own ... It's why they're so emotionally invested. I could see people saying it was 'good', that would be fine I guess ... but no way in hell is it a 'cinematic masterpiece' 😂 ... dumb kids pretending they're watching Kubrick .. It's shallow, boring and you're correct, badly written.. it just looks nice, has the veneer of something edgy. It's incredibly mediocre.
It was different; a way to change things up, but I still prefer the concept from Nolan's movies where the cape was made of electrified memory cloth. This suit made him look more like a flying squirrel than a bat.
Much as I loved it when I first saw it, I really had to "lean in" to its cool look to forgive how implausible it seemed, especially to land. I was later proved right: some physicists at Leicester tried electrified memory cloth & found you can glide very far...but the slowest you can land is roughly 50 MPH. I get the "squirrel" look isn't as cool, but for me it's possibly much cooler to see Bruce get back up after falling so hard. And, most importantly, to really feel it myself. That's what I appreciate most about "The Batman." As someone who has long criticized the so-called realism of Nolan's movies, what I appreciate with Reeves here isn't "realism" as in "like reality," but "realism" as in "visceral." It's hard to truly feel anything in most superhero movies, to feel like anyone's in actual danger, etc.
That's what i like about it. It's very rudimentary technology, same with the eye contact recorders and the Batmobile. It feels like all the tech is in its early stages of development.
This fits the movie better though imo,its only year 2 batman and he is still figuring shit out,and if they go for a trilogy like they plan to,he has time to improve the suit,the wings/flying and whatever else as he gets better at being Batman.
@@mrtimtom2631 That's why this 'Batman' sucks ... we don't need any more of this 'gritty realism' ... It's BORING and doesn't really work... because that wing suit scene, like much of the other sequences were nowhere close to 'realistic'. This version sucks.
yeah. Not sure why they had that little parachute get caught and abruptly (probably lethally) smack the sh*t into the bottom of the bridge. With the bumps and fetal position high speed rolling, I could sorta believe given he's pretty armored and possibly cushioned in the way that his whole body is in a racing helmet. That bridge smack is just absurd though.
I really feel like this movie is just a bunch of circumstances perfectly lining up in every way like it really feels like this movie was a accidental complete masterpiece, the deadlines, director , writers, music sound, where dc and warner bros was at in the moment, covid, everything just happened to line up perfectly. I think the next movie will be good but this first movie was jsut too prefect even if there are a few holes in the script.
for those that don't know, LaSalle St in Chicago is where the standoff between Christian Bale's Batman and Heath Ledger's Joker took place in the Dark Knight. Amazing how these film settings overlap!
The wing suit is “grounded” but the way it’s concealed in the suit makes no sense. He’d have to be hauling the wing suit everywhere he goes. A wing suit is big, heavy and bulky. It wouldn’t make sense. Nolan’s idea of a cape that turns into a glider was done brilliantly. Easier to suspend belief because his cape is basically a giant kite in Nolan’s universe. Look up videos of people being carried away by kites. The look up wing suits. They’re giant suits.
Milan - I didn't think *any* of it was realistic. Bale's memory fabric cape wouldn't work in the real world, but it *still* looked more believable than Pattinson's wingsuit. This was taking things too far in trying to portray a real world Batman. Didn't work at all, for me.
@@oddhominem guess youve never watched a wingsuit video before? it was very realistic, maybe study some more before you say something that makes you look stupid.
@@amuroray9115 - The idea behind the wingsuit was to show Batman using something that works in the real world. Consequently, we shouldn't have needed to suspend disbelief. The trouble is, the scene was so ridiculous that it was easier to suspend disbelief with the memory fabric glider even though it wouldn't really work in reality. The worst thing for me was seeing him looking like a flying squirrel. That entire scene was the biggest mistake of the movie, and they were quite a few.
@@oddhominem so the only issue is that he looks like a squirrel instead of a bat. Not that one glider is possible and the other isn’t. No one should have to suspend their disbelief over something as simple as aesthetic.
loved this scene and recently watched the movie for my fourth time the other day. I forgot how I laughed(in a good way) when he smacked into the bridge. Can’t wait to see the next one! Such a cool bts
This didn't feel any more or less realistic than the gliding cape in the Nolan movies. I don't get this obsession with being so ultra-realistic for no reason.
@@falkofscrum How was it any more or less practical than the Nolan movies though? In fact, I'd say the Reeves movie made it seem even more impractical considering Batman should've broken a couple bones atleast given the absolutely trash landing that he had.
As someone who's criticized the so-called realism in Nolan's movies for years, I get what you mean: but here, I don't take "realism" as in "most like reality," but rather "realism" as in "visceral," as in, it gets me up close & personal, makes me feel like I'm the one flying off the building (or how the mounted cameras really put me in that brilliant car chase, etc.). It's very, very hard for me to truly feel anything in most superhero movies. The city's at stake but the buildings feel empty. The heroes take hits but I never get the gut anxiety that they're risking life & limb. And to me, this landing is pretty believable: yes it's rough, but he's also heavily armed in kevlar, and was (unintentionally) slowed down when he hit the bus. If he's just fallen to the street, I'd consider it more impractical he didn't break any bones.
Because they're afraid to do something different. Nolan set the bar so high grounding it and stripping most of the fantastical elements. Schumacher nearly destroyed the character in Batman & Robin 1997 with the fantastical approach that they're afraid of looking like this so they stick to grounded. However this approach is starting to stagnate Batman as a character because it strips too much away from him and his world. That's why we keep getting mob and serial killer villains instead of a film with Blob Clayface, Man-Bat and Doctor Death with his bone formula. That would truly test Batman. Example they're talks about them potentially using Mister Freeze but having him grounded in a hazmat suit with frostbite dipping people in liquid nitrogen. Just give us a live-action version of Arkham City Mister Freeze to truly test Batman legendary scientific, deductive, tactical/strategic prowess.
i haven't watched the video yet but i just want to say right away that the thumbnail for this video is the slickest thumbnail for the batman iv'e ever seen.
dude, you do not get this level of care or respect for any superhero film today. I know little is known about the following batman movies with Matt Reeves but damn that guy has my fully trust and support (not that he needs it)
It's cool for an early Batman, but I much prefer the normal wings/glider... I don't see how this is "more realistic" either. The idea that there's a wingsuit beneath the armor that he can deploy in one second is far less realistic to me than a cape that is able to form wings, like in TDK trilogy.
The fabric wings in Nolan's movies are way more unrealistic for me, personally, because it's impossible to imagine landing at anything less than 50 MPH. (Indeed, some physicists made those wings & found you can indeed glide very far, but that landing speeds are crazy fast & fatal.)
@@SabatSch95 Wingsuits have parachutes. (As seen in "The Batman.") But, it's also theoretically possible to land without one, because you can de-accelerate. Gary Connery was the 1st to do this in 2012. Granted, he had a safe runway, but he was also falling from 2400 ft. The material is another important difference. The fabric cape in Nolan's movie would have to make sense in most weather conditions, whether there's low wind, humidity or rain, etc. Not to mention, durability. E.g, I still feel Hong Kong sequence in Nolan's 2nd film is one of the best in all 3 movies. But when he bursts through the glass window at X many MPH & not an inch of the cape seems to tear...I am absolutely pretending not to notice. 😂
Has anyone crashed without injury? I'v seen some crash videos where they didnt die but I think they were all in critical condition. You cant really practice that kind of thing either because you have to get it right to first time or die.
yeah, the realism argument kind of gets thrown out the window imo once you realize this is the same movie that has fully functional camera contact lenses that also have a microphone btw.
This is a black squirel suit used by sky divers before they pull the parachute pullcordes. I personally thnk he should have used the bus roof as a landing strip and skipped the parachute, it wouldn't have caused so much pain as being slammed into the underside of the bridge, then the bus and then the ground.
I really like this Batman than others. There is no space tech equipments, fully crime scene and detective things. He brings terror also. And the best and realistic Batmobile ever..
This scene perfectly encapsulates the tonal inconsistency that frustrates me with this movie. One minute they are going for such extreme realism with the flight sequence that Batman no longer looks cool, dramatic, or exciting while doing something that should be all three. That alone I could have forgiven, but then they follow it with a crash landing that would most likely kill, if not seriously hospitalize any mortal man. But instead he just grunts and shakes it off. The realism they sacrificed fun and style to achieve with that dopey squirrel suit and instantly dated, cringey camerawork is immediately undone one second later by an unnecessarily brutal yet ultimately inconsequential crash landing. Overall I liked the movie, but choices like this truly took me out of the experience.
When does the movie ever say he didn't break some ribs or something? Minor fractures, bones not broken completely in half or pieces, are common in pro sports like NFL & players still play after a shot of cortisone/novicaine and a few Tylenol. Plenty of quarterbacks in fact have played with fractured ribs, broken fingers (on throwing hand), severely rolled ankle, etc. If you pay attention, Bruce has a gigantic bruise on his shoulder & back - likely some minor fracture....but he's on a death wish mission. Bruce says verbatim to Alfred, "I don't care if I die." And Alfred tells him Bruce you will if you keep at it like this. But nah, Batman hasn't suffered any serious injuries like broken bones, concussion, contusion, etc....😢
I wish they included the white covering on batman's eyes like in animated series. Idk the reason why they did not include it, they may add some AR stuffs on that.
I understand the idea of making it realistic in a way, that it's possible even in a real life, but it takes away batman's epicness, and mysteriousness. Realistic batman is an idea, that started with nolan, and it doesn't seem to be over yet. I mean, let's just don't make an average joe out of batman, please.
@@thegodzachieve he is everything but average. 🤦🏻♂️ but of course fanboys say everything to defend their thing. Instead of opening eyes, and demanding something better from the creators, they rather eat every nonsense without really enjoying it.
If there was one thing I could change, it would be the wing-suit. Cape gliding has now become so ingrained in the character that it's a bit jarring when it's not there. Bizarrely, the moment he deployed the wing-suit, I didn't feel like I was looking at Batman anymore. I understand that they wanted to go a more realistic route, but they still had a hand-held rapid-ascent grapnel, and good luck making that.
I can definitely see them introducing a cape glider in future films as Batman continues to tweak and improve his tech. Given that this takes place early on in his career, I like to think of the wingsuit as his first attempt at it.
I think there's something kinda fun about it. There's really no such thing as a definitive Batman, and were there, it would be made of too many things we've seen already, and not enough surprises. Sure, The Batman sacrifices the iconic visual of the gliding bat wings in favor of "realistic" gliding that needs no explanation. They also sacrificed the overt bat motif in the Batmobile. This Batman doesn't evoke bat imagery much beyond the ears. But that's what makes this film version its own thing, distinct from Nolan's Bond-like trilogy, Burton's and Schumacher's live-action cartoons, and Snyder's 'roided out domestic terrorist with the sci-fi military tech. When someone else brings their own vision in the fullness of time, it hopefully will be something else fully unexpected. It's not about getting closer and closer to "right," because this isn't about getting it "right,", it's about doing something creative and original with a familiar character.
@@rottensquid Naturally whenever an adaptation of source material is made, there will be interpretation and almost inevitably some aspects will be excluded. That's fine. It's to be expected. I suppose it depends how much of what is considered iconic is left out. Ask a bunch of fans to describe Batman and a bunch of common aspects will be cited. Leave out too many of those and the character gets lost a bit. Luckily most of what I would consider Batman is there on screen. Enough representation of the cape gliding aspect has been used now that it's something I notice if it's not there, even though it's something that's been added over time, like the grapnel gun in that regard. But a film cannot be everything to everyone, and frankly it's a relatively small gripe which as the previous commenter pointed out, forms a good basis for Bruce to work on and improve. The film overall is solid.
@@Rekaert Right, of course. Neil Gaiman recently commented that if your Batman is a journalist in a yellow overcoat with a pet bat, it's no longer interpretation, it's just false advertising. The question is at what point does interpretation lose what's essential to the character. I agree with everyone that the glide suit isn't as cool as the wings, but I disagree that this makes it a bad interpretation. The point of this Batman is to contrast Nolan's version by being just as "realistic," but need no explanation. The gliding explains itself. We don't need to know where the car came from because we see how he's been working on it himself. One can extrapolate that it's the same with his bat-cycle, all those banged together computers and tools, even the suit itself. He didn't need to involve Wayne-Tech's R&D department, to make high-tech James Bond type gadgets. He just cobbled them together himself. That makes this version of the character unique, at least in film. And that's always a good thing. I think, if this movie leaves something to be desired, it's how Batman uses the bat motif as a tool to frighten people. We never see him using his cape and cowl to create a monstrous impression, or use darkness to play on people's fears. In fact, past the opening monologue about how he's become the shadows to strike fear into his enemies, he usually comes off as little more than a nut in a mask. Every once in a while he becomes more, like in the car chase. But it's rare. It's not something the film plays with often, and I kind of wish it did so more. That said, I think this film did some phenomenal things with the character, not least was that marvelous costume design. Hats off to good ol' Glyn Dillon once again. Further, this was easily the best, most atmospheric Gotham committed to film since the Animated Series, and beats out every other film version by a country mile for pure gothic noir magnificence. So I'll take Reeves' little unique flourishes as part of the package. Sometimes, picking at the flaws of a work of art does little but distract from its qualities. I think that's the case here. It's trying to be a "perfect" Batman film, it's trying to be its own Batman film. To complain about the details that aren't as good as other films makes "perfect" the enemy of good, and ruins the experience of a great film.
I just thought that being in his second year of being batman, it made sense that he still not had a cape that would glide, it's an advanced technology that would be implemented some years later in his carreer, I like to believe. The concept of a wing suit is realistic and practical and very experimental. We give it for granted because of Arkham Games and other animated sources that he always glided with his cape but it's not really true. Look for example as they shown in the video, in Year One, he used a glider, which made sense for the era Year One was written in. This batman is operating in a modern era and the wingsuit makes perfect sense as a prototype. It's something original and innovative I believe it was never thought before with this character.
I appreciate the idea of the gliding scene in the movie, showing Bruce being nervous entrusting his life to a gadget he probably doesn't have a lot of experience with is a fresh take and it's very impressive that the wingsuit is not cgi (I really thought it was when I played the shot of him putting it on frame by frame) and was done practically. with that said I think the wingsuit looks stupid, going for realism in a movie that has nanotech camera contact lenses from the New 52 is selfcontradicting and the cape tech from the Nolan movies was better in every way.
I get what they were going for but tbh that scene in the movie looked derpy when it shouldve looked cool. Tbh I wouldnt be mad if they did it in full CGI if there were that many complications with it.
I understand the conception... But the first problem for me is that the scene visually isn't epic enough for the dramaturgy peak the events reach at that point (except the falling). The second problem is that Batman in that wing suit looks like a squirrel stuck in some bag...
The Batman is based off of Year 1, in which Batman is still in his infancy. His gear and armor are still in a prototype phase, and as the series moves on, we will see him evolve into the hardened Batman that we normally see in media.
I think it's one of the best scenes of the entire movie. Seeing something new, and shocking the audience with a never seen before wing suit, is what makes the scene epic, and even more important, realistic.
Just have a small missing plot detail thought, 🤔 but does Batman abandon his tech that he uses?, like did he just leave that wing suit cape on the street? or does he go back and pick it up? , avoiding police finding it and tracking it to bruce Wayne. 🦇
nice, but the real criticism i have with this scene is his crash. the crash is too hard, too fast. no matter what, he would have several broken bones at the least ribs, and would need immediate medical attention, he wouldn't be able to stand let alone walk. Him crashing on top of a bus and a bunch of other cars would take attention so people would notice and flock towards him. police are on the lookout so quickly would be on his tails. he can't run due to injury and so the only solution is to use a grappling hook and go to a building's roof, further limiting his area to escape and since he is hurt he won't move that easily. even if he did, he now can only go from building to building by roof and so seriously limiting his escape route. he has no car/bike close by so really, he has no escaping potential. he would have been caught. Personally i think it would have been a lot better if he just 'caught' in the bridge, had a smack against a wall, got a bit dizzy and had to cut himself loose to then either dive into the tunnels (sewers), or run away into the shadows, perhaps hear a motor start and indicate he flees.
Nolan's static electricity giving the cape a boner wasn't all that scientifically sound, but it was plausible enough and the suit didn't need some bulky accessory gadget, it was built in. Ultimately I think it beats this.
Its going to be a whole series and as it goes on Batman will improve as well as improve his gear similar to how the Dark Knight trilogy did it. This movie was inspired by Batman: Year 1, and as such Batman is still in his infancy.
There are gonna be more movies in this series, in this one batman has only been batman for about a year and is still working things out. It makes more sense than batman immediately being amazing at everything, even stuff he's never tried before
I think more to the point, this movie is deliberately challenging the whole notion of superheroic capability. We've come to expect a certain amount of wish-fulfillment fantasy in our superheroes, where they effortlessly do impossible things. Of course, wish fulfillment is part of the superhero package. It's why we love these films. On the other hand, it's escalated to the point it takes me out of the immersion experience. As with the 60s concept car Batmobile, which evolved into Anton Furst's crazy 80s Metropolis car, then Nathan Crowley's 2000s Lamborghini Hummer, all the way into that Star Wars ATV in Batman v Superman, Reeves' film had to dial the excess back to earth. This Batman is definitely skilled, but I thought it was a good reminder that what he's doing is nuts. It's fun to fantasize that Batman is an expert at what he does, and to admire in his ultra-competence, but to me, it's a thrill to see him out there Batmaning by the skin of his teeth. That, I relate to. After all, he's doing crazy dangerous shit no one should do, no matter how good they are. The most expert cliff jumper in the world takes time to prepare for each jump. They don't have an army of cops after them. It's still incredible what this Batman does, but it's all the more incredible when we acknowledge how no one can do all these things under all this pressure with perfect, flawless mastery. A Batman who's a master of 50 languages, 20 martial arts styles, every land or air vehicle in existence, advanced computer tech, advanced spy tech, advanced combat strategy, detective work, metallurgy, finance, riddle-solving, baking, and tiddlywinks starts to feel a tad... silly. Ultimately, it just depends on what you want out of your superhero. Do you want to simply thrill in the fantasy of impossible competence? A Batman who's always master of his situation? Then this Batman may not be for you. But that's the whole point of rebooting this character again and again. The variety is the point.
I looked practical, but he still would have needed a parachute otherwise it would have killed him real life. So I wouldn’t call it grounded. The reason wingsuiters need a parachute is so they don’t splat upon landing.
NOT WHEN HE'S BREAKING INTO A GLASS BUILDING , STILL HIS WINGS WERE SO BIG IT CAN BE TOTALLY USED AS A PARACHUTE FOR A SLOW LANDING..(not like I don't like Matt reeves's Batman , he's mah boy, mah battinson)
I think just an actual parachute would be less painful. Not as cool, but deffo less painful. He's going what... 40/50mph when he hits the bridge (HEAD FIRST) How's he still alive?? 😅.
you better beleive the director set up a follow up scene where this batman will freaking nail another landing, showing how this batman has progressed.
Oooooh, .. I can't wait for that ... I'm in giddy with anticipation. 😂 ... The wing suit scene was goofy as hell .. This movie is a turd.
@@Fiveash-Art Youre just another 12 Year old ADHD Kid who cant see the Art in this Movie 😌 Go and watch your Transformers Movies
@Crusty huh huh huh .. you said it Beavis... uh huh uh huh .. turd 🤘🏻
@@Fiveash-Art he’s saying you said it without irony and not quoting someone you have intermediate school level trolling ability
@@samrogers5090 Oh, thank you for informing me about the commenter's intentions, .. You're so very intelligent🙄... Of course anyone who thinks this movie is good is going to believe anyone who criticizes it is just 'a troll'. You people are clueless .... You won't be rewatching this TURD in a year or two because it's pretty obvious what a hollow, boring movie it really is. People just got too invested and emotionally positioned themselves where they just had to like it.... It's simple confirmation bias. It's not a good movie, it's incredibly mediocre and it's definitely not a good Batman movie. It is a TURD.
What I enjoy about this scene (and the movie as a whole), is that it actually makes me respect Batman way more than other interpretations. Lots of people seem to have an issue with this interpretation of the character because it shows him having weaknesses and messing up constantly. For me, that's exactly what I enjoyed about this film. The fact that he feels absolute terror before jumping, makes it all the more impressive that he actually jumps mere seconds later.
Also the fact that the wing suit is clearly something he never planned on using gives a kind of gravity to the whole situation. It means that gliding isn't just a walk in the park, but rather something that could kill you over a slightest mistake. It means that even for him this feat requires actual skill, determination and courage. This Batman might be more reckless, and more prone to error than what we've seen before, but I don't think any previous iteration has shown this level of commitment and bravery.
I absolutely loved that too! I wouldn't say he never actually intended to use it. I assume he tested it, but in remote places where there weren't towering buildings to fly into. The test runs would be under controlled, ideal circumstances. This field use was in a completely uncontrolled circumstances, so the reality of the incredible danger of it would suddenly hit him as he reaches the edge of the building.
What's so great to me about this interpretation is how it constantly shifts back and forth between Batman the grandiose persona, and Bruce Wayne in a ridiculous costume trying and failing to fully become that grandiose persona. It happens throughout the film. He stalls out the Batmobile right in the middle of its grand introduction, then bursts it through a fiery car crash to capture to the Penguin, and then reveals he doesn't know enough Spanish to understand the RIddler's riddle, earning the ironic moniker "world's greatest detective." This is a story about a man trying to be a superhero, trying to erase or deny the mortal, fallible, human part of himself that holds him back, and having it constantly rearing up and getting in his way. When he reaches that ledge and suddenly draws back in terror, you catch a glimpse of the real person beneath the fantasy persona he wears to protect himself from fear, pain, etc. It's only when he finds a way to integrate his humanity into the Batman persona that he finds what he's been searching for.
@@rottensquid Well put. That evolution is also clearly displayed in the three scenes of him entering the club. First as Batman, second as the man underneath, and last as both of them integrated into something greater.
@@robbanbobban2 Right, that's a really great observation. One initial "complaint" I had with my friend when we first saw the film was what a tank Batman is, that he rarely utilized stealth, that he just walked up to the enemy with reckless bravado. But I realize now that this was the point. In his self-righteousness, he was daring the world to destroy him. It's only when he reintegrates his two halves that he starts using stealth, utilizing the Batman persona rather than inhabiting it full-time, working smart, not hard, as it were.
Robban Bobban - If the wingsuit was something he never planned on using, why did he go to the bother of incorporating one into his suit?
Well they also made a big point in the movie to show that this is Year 2 for him. He's still very new to all this Batman stuff which I personally liked since it's not an origin story but it's also not him in his prime. Most likely in the next movie he's going to be very good at gliding.
The practical shot of the cape "transforming" into the wingsuit looks so much better than the Marvel-esque CGI shot, especially since we see them back to back here
The moment where he's just about to jump and freaks out is one of my favourite moments in the entire movie. Eventually, he doesn't freak out, but for now, he does, which is completely understandable.
I get that the tech of the cape in Dark Knight is plausible and looks cool but the fact that they resort to a real wingsuit in this movie is solid if they're really pushing for realism.
But nothing beats that giant gliding bat wingspan cape though lol
Agreed. As much as I love the "grounded" Batman, what's omitted from this particular film is the near-supernatural effect Batman creates. He has this great costume, but he doesn't really use it to frighten people, or evoke the sort of vampiric monstrousness he occasionally summons up in the comics. I feel like there's a balance of groundedness and pulpy fiction with Batman, that no movie has ever achieved. No one seems able to take the premise seriously while also making it fun. The films have veered wildly from overly serious to cartoonishly absurd. And while they've all been successful in their own way (except for Batman and Robin, obviously) none of them have struck that balance, creating a world that lets Batman fully be Batman.
@@rottensquid Yeah in year one even some of the cops thought he was some sort of winged demon.
@@PikeBishop1 Right. That was the whole point of that great bit in the investigation room where Flass is giving his account of the attack while everyone laughs. This film's Batman, occasionally, manages to spin an impression of being the baddest MF in the world, but not quite an otherworldly being. It's my only real quibble. He has this great costume, but he doesn't quite use it to its full effect. Even John Wick carried a more supernatural mystique.
@@rottensquid Totally agree. He just walks onto crime scenes surrounded by cops who don't even respect him. Not exactly the aura batman should be exuding.
@@PikeBishop1 See, that part I liked. I think there's something magical to be teased out of that dichotomy, the otherworldly aura that goes with his legend, and the equally stunning reality of the ordinary man who created that aura.
Those concept arts are quite haunting and yet stylised.
In Chris Reeves' Superman you believed a man could fly. "In our movie you will believe a man DID fly". I fucking love Matt Reeves.
a great, subtle nod!
0:21 the fact that it was all practical
Ilove this movie
Me too. It might be my fav Batman movie =)
Yea we all do mate..the most humanish batman..you can tell his emotion.. unlike other bats
@@Maddoxxx - What's with all this 'we' business?? Didn't really feel like a Batman movie, to me.
Best Batman ever
@@oddhominem this was the most “batman” movie we’ve got to date, sure the dark knight is a better movie but the batman is a better BATMAN movie focusing on bruce and his disconnection from society and his inability to distinguish himself from his alter ego as we see his progression in which he realizes he needs to be more, he needs to become a symbol of hope, hence the transition from vengeance to justice
I like this batman.
He is not some superhuman in a black suit. He makes mistakes as most men do, but he has skills and courage that most men don't.
I like that he is a noob in this film...but it is Bat-Man FFS he better get gud.
The suit sure gives him superhuman durability
Just as fanart I once made this Batman design where his cape turns into a wingsuit, very much like this. It was great to see someone put that idea on the big screen!
That is so cool!
no way me too!
This is why I absolutely love The Batman. It makes me believe that I can be Batman
I saw this Movie 5 Times at the Movies ! MAN I LOVED IT
That jump on a wing suit is the most exhilarating moments that I had watching the film only second to when theBatmonsterCar was introduced!
The wingsuit crash was a single moment where my suspension of disbelief fell. He was so very clearly dead
It was most believable bit of any Batman flying scene in any of the movies thus far. Definitely better than anything Nolan cooked in his trilogy.
@@tim_soup7099 it was ridiculous how Bruce survived eating shit the way he did in the new movie.
Nolan gliding looked way cooler btw and the pseudoscientific explanation of how his cape works was interesting.
Wdym? Parachute is pulled and catches on the bridge, lowering the gforce. He lands on the back of the bus, rolls off, bounces a bit. All in a suit that withstood just about every type of ammunition and an explosion.
Nvm he hit the under side of the bridge which would've been the worst hit and definitely the least believable, but to say this was the moment your suspension of disbelief broke is still ridiculous when you compare it to alot of other scenes in this film and in Nolan's trilogy, which was also a realistic, grounded approach.
@@The.Usurper I thought he hit the light
This why Arkham knight is the supreme Batman game. It literally makes you feel like you're Batman
Exactly
This film was really awesome...this is the Batman I've wanted to see since keaton👍🏻💯
I haven’t seen the movie (yet, I want to) but it looks like a really well written, high quality movie. I’ve heard nothing but good things about it.
do yourself a favor and watch it. imo its the best cbm in the last 4 years
@@helhest984 last 10 years maybe?
It's incredibly mediocre ... Don't pay to see it. I was out after the first 40 minutes ... It's all downhill from there.
@@Fiveash-Art i really wanted it to top TDK, but nah, TDK still reigns supreme as best Batman movie. The Batman has some really awful writing
@@chaddaddywarden4349 The Nolan trilogy goes down hill after Batman Begins, personally I think TDK is overrated but it absolutely destroys "The Batman" in terms of quality. Personally I thought Batman Begins was the movie that should've gotten the praise. It flew under the radar with a lot of people, which I thought was a shame. It's an absolute classic ... It had a focus that the others didn't. Yeah, The Batman is a piece of crap though. I think this zoomer generation just needs something to call their own ... It's why they're so emotionally invested. I could see people saying it was 'good', that would be fine I guess ... but no way in hell is it a 'cinematic masterpiece' 😂 ... dumb kids pretending they're watching Kubrick .. It's shallow, boring and you're correct, badly written.. it just looks nice, has the veneer of something edgy. It's incredibly mediocre.
Good to see that even Ned Flanders is on board.
The wingsuit is fine in the first movie because it looks like something bruce could make but in the next movie I wanna see Batman not squirrelman
It was different; a way to change things up, but I still prefer the concept from Nolan's movies where the cape was made of electrified memory cloth. This suit made him look more like a flying squirrel than a bat.
Much as I loved it when I first saw it, I really had to "lean in" to its cool look to forgive how implausible it seemed, especially to land. I was later proved right: some physicists at Leicester tried electrified memory cloth & found you can glide very far...but the slowest you can land is roughly 50 MPH. I get the "squirrel" look isn't as cool, but for me it's possibly much cooler to see Bruce get back up after falling so hard. And, most importantly, to really feel it myself. That's what I appreciate most about "The Batman." As someone who has long criticized the so-called realism of Nolan's movies, what I appreciate with Reeves here isn't "realism" as in "like reality," but "realism" as in "visceral." It's hard to truly feel anything in most superhero movies, to feel like anyone's in actual danger, etc.
hard disagree.
I like to think Pat's cape is a prototype.
That's what i like about it. It's very rudimentary technology, same with the eye contact recorders and the Batmobile. It feels like all the tech is in its early stages of development.
This fits the movie better though imo,its only year 2 batman and he is still figuring shit out,and if they go for a trilogy like they plan to,he has time to improve the suit,the wings/flying and whatever else as he gets better at being Batman.
Hopefully this is just a prototype cape and he uses the traditional one in the next movies
it wouldnt make sense for realism
@@mrtimtom2631 That's why this 'Batman' sucks ... we don't need any more of this 'gritty realism' ... It's BORING and doesn't really work... because that wing suit scene, like much of the other sequences were nowhere close to 'realistic'. This version sucks.
@@Fiveash-Art Go watch Batman & Robin then lol
@@alexayers9463 Na .. I'll stick with Batman Begins ... It's a far superior movie.
Ngl that “believable” landing would have killed anyone 😂
yeah. Not sure why they had that little parachute get caught and abruptly (probably lethally) smack the sh*t into the bottom of the bridge. With the bumps and fetal position high speed rolling, I could sorta believe given he's pretty armored and possibly cushioned in the way that his whole body is in a racing helmet. That bridge smack is just absurd though.
Its a COMIC BOOK movie...
Robert Pattinson was an awesome batman
I really feel like this movie is just a bunch of circumstances perfectly lining up in every way like it really feels like this movie was a accidental complete masterpiece, the deadlines, director , writers, music sound, where dc and warner bros was at in the moment, covid, everything just happened to line up perfectly. I think the next movie will be good but this first movie was jsut too prefect even if there are a few holes in the script.
Hope they bring back the Cape Glider in the Sequels.
for those that don't know, LaSalle St in Chicago is where the standoff between Christian Bale's Batman and Heath Ledger's Joker took place in the Dark Knight. Amazing how these film settings overlap!
Huge Batman fan here. Everyone that said he couldn't play Batman didn't say it after watching this movie. Great movie..
@Sal Lol
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Batman with a COVID-screen... There's something I didn't think I would ever see.
The wing suit is “grounded” but the way it’s concealed in the suit makes no sense. He’d have to be hauling the wing suit everywhere he goes. A wing suit is big, heavy and bulky. It wouldn’t make sense. Nolan’s idea of a cape that turns into a glider was done brilliantly. Easier to suspend belief because his cape is basically a giant kite in Nolan’s universe. Look up videos of people being carried away by kites. The look up wing suits. They’re giant suits.
His cape being a glider has been around since the 90’s I think.
@@amuroray9115 80s
@@graceromack6662 thanks
@@amuroray9115 It originated from Batman Returns actually. Batman had gliders before that but they weren’t built into the cape.
love how everything felt so realistic except for the crash
Milan - I didn't think *any* of it was realistic. Bale's memory fabric cape wouldn't work in the real world, but it *still* looked more believable than Pattinson's wingsuit. This was taking things too far in trying to portray a real world Batman. Didn't work at all, for me.
@@oddhominem guess youve never watched a wingsuit video before? it was very realistic, maybe study some more before you say something that makes you look stupid.
@@oddhominem how does a memory fabric cape look more believable than an *actual* wing suit (which exist in real life)?
@@amuroray9115 - The idea behind the wingsuit was to show Batman using something that works in the real world. Consequently, we shouldn't have needed to suspend disbelief. The trouble is, the scene was so ridiculous that it was easier to suspend disbelief with the memory fabric glider even though it wouldn't really work in reality. The worst thing for me was seeing him looking like a flying squirrel. That entire scene was the biggest mistake of the movie, and they were quite a few.
@@oddhominem so the only issue is that he looks like a squirrel instead of a bat. Not that one glider is possible and the other isn’t. No one should have to suspend their disbelief over something as simple as aesthetic.
Bats should been like, “Shhhhh-ahhhhhh-shhhhhhhh-ahhhhh…”after that landing.
0:36 Now THERE'S a Batman! 👌
loved this scene and recently watched the movie for my fourth time the other day. I forgot how I laughed(in a good way) when he smacked into the bridge. Can’t wait to see the next one! Such a cool bts
This didn't feel any more or less realistic than the gliding cape in the Nolan movies. I don't get this obsession with being so ultra-realistic for no reason.
It felt more practical in the Reeves movie, which makes it more thrilling
@@falkofscrum How was it any more or less practical than the Nolan movies though? In fact, I'd say the Reeves movie made it seem even more impractical considering Batman should've broken a couple bones atleast given the absolutely trash landing that he had.
As someone who's criticized the so-called realism in Nolan's movies for years, I get what you mean: but here, I don't take "realism" as in "most like reality," but rather "realism" as in "visceral," as in, it gets me up close & personal, makes me feel like I'm the one flying off the building (or how the mounted cameras really put me in that brilliant car chase, etc.). It's very, very hard for me to truly feel anything in most superhero movies. The city's at stake but the buildings feel empty. The heroes take hits but I never get the gut anxiety that they're risking life & limb.
And to me, this landing is pretty believable: yes it's rough, but he's also heavily armed in kevlar, and was (unintentionally) slowed down when he hit the bus. If he's just fallen to the street, I'd consider it more impractical he didn't break any bones.
Because they're afraid to do something different. Nolan set the bar so high grounding it and stripping most of the fantastical elements. Schumacher nearly destroyed the character in Batman & Robin 1997 with the fantastical approach that they're afraid of looking like this so they stick to grounded. However this approach is starting to stagnate Batman as a character because it strips too much away from him and his world. That's why we keep getting mob and serial killer villains instead of a film with Blob Clayface, Man-Bat and Doctor Death with his bone formula. That would truly test Batman. Example they're talks about them potentially using Mister Freeze but having him grounded in a hazmat suit with frostbite dipping people in liquid nitrogen. Just give us a live-action version of Arkham City Mister Freeze to truly test Batman legendary scientific, deductive, tactical/strategic prowess.
Tom Cruise would probably jump for real:-D
i haven't watched the video yet but i just want to say right away that the thumbnail for this video is the slickest thumbnail for the batman iv'e ever seen.
I wish that the movies quit trying to put realism into Batman.
The amount of effort that went in to creating this 35 second scene is astonishing. Thank goodness they didn't use She-Hulk level CGI for it.
It looked terrible.
Reeves really focused on the 'MAN' in Batman
dude, you do not get this level of care or respect for any superhero film today. I know little is known about the following batman movies with Matt Reeves but damn that guy has my fully trust and support (not that he needs it)
After the Dark Knight trilogy, I didn't think a better Batman movie could be made. I was wrong.
after all these other movies, i still cant believe he wasnt able to glide with his Cape like any other batman we have ever seen.
I hope the next film shows him upgrading the wing suit to the actually bat suit.
Seeing batman wear a covid 19 faceshield is hilarious for some reason I can't stop laughing at it
It's cool for an early Batman, but I much prefer the normal wings/glider... I don't see how this is "more realistic" either. The idea that there's a wingsuit beneath the armor that he can deploy in one second is far less realistic to me than a cape that is able to form wings, like in TDK trilogy.
The fabric wings in Nolan's movies are way more unrealistic for me, personally, because it's impossible to imagine landing at anything less than 50 MPH. (Indeed, some physicists made those wings & found you can indeed glide very far, but that landing speeds are crazy fast & fatal.)
@@malexander4094 how is that any different from wingsuits?
@@SabatSch95 Wingsuits have parachutes. (As seen in "The Batman.") But, it's also theoretically possible to land without one, because you can de-accelerate. Gary Connery was the 1st to do this in 2012. Granted, he had a safe runway, but he was also falling from 2400 ft.
The material is another important difference. The fabric cape in Nolan's movie would have to make sense in most weather conditions, whether there's low wind, humidity or rain, etc. Not to mention, durability. E.g, I still feel Hong Kong sequence in Nolan's 2nd film is one of the best in all 3 movies. But when he bursts through the glass window at X many MPH & not an inch of the cape seems to tear...I am absolutely pretending not to notice. 😂
Has anyone crashed without injury? I'v seen some crash videos where they didnt die but I think they were all in critical condition. You cant really practice that kind of thing either because you have to get it right to first time or die.
yeah, the realism argument kind of gets thrown out the window imo once you realize this is the same movie that has fully functional camera contact lenses that also have a microphone btw.
The Batman is excellent, scenes were very realistic!
This is a black squirel suit used by sky divers before they pull the parachute pullcordes. I personally thnk he should have used the bus roof as a landing strip and skipped the parachute, it wouldn't have caused so much pain as being slammed into the underside of the bridge, then the bus and then the ground.
This and christen's bales memory cloth is the best it just feels rooted in real life !!!!!!!!
I really like this Batman than others. There is no space tech equipments, fully crime scene and detective things. He brings terror also. And the best and realistic Batmobile ever..
Fox ain't around to upgrade ur ass! XD
Hopefully we'll get Fox.
This is my favorite scene from this movie and this movie is my favorite movie of this year. Also, this is my favorite batman movie.
This scene perfectly encapsulates the tonal inconsistency that frustrates me with this movie.
One minute they are going for such extreme realism with the flight sequence that Batman no longer looks cool, dramatic, or exciting while doing something that should be all three.
That alone I could have forgiven, but then they follow it with a crash landing that would most likely kill, if not seriously hospitalize any mortal man. But instead he just grunts and shakes it off.
The realism they sacrificed fun and style to achieve with that dopey squirrel suit and instantly dated, cringey camerawork is immediately undone one second later by an unnecessarily brutal yet ultimately inconsequential crash landing.
Overall I liked the movie, but choices like this truly took me out of the experience.
look closely he hits his chest armor first which is supposed to be experimental military armor
and he is clearly in pain when he gets up so it's not unrealistic
He goes ahh ahh for a second or two after landing, but never has a scratch or noticeable injury.
Oh the grounded reality!
Right lol should have been dead
6:02 No, no ... don't pull your chute, you're heading under a.... nevermind.
cheers.
oh look its the flying fox man!!
They wanted to make it realistic but they forgot to mention that if you hit the ground that hard that fast, you're gonna break something.
When does the movie ever say he didn't break some ribs or something? Minor fractures, bones not broken completely in half or pieces, are common in pro sports like NFL & players still play after a shot of cortisone/novicaine and a few Tylenol. Plenty of quarterbacks in fact have played with fractured ribs, broken fingers (on throwing hand), severely rolled ankle, etc.
If you pay attention, Bruce has a gigantic bruise on his shoulder & back - likely some minor fracture....but he's on a death wish mission. Bruce says verbatim to Alfred, "I don't care if I die." And Alfred tells him Bruce you will if you keep at it like this. But nah, Batman hasn't suffered any serious injuries like broken bones, concussion, contusion, etc....😢
"I wanted the audience to look and think 'ah, I could be Batman.'" Sorry sir, I live my parents and hate billionaires
I wish they included the white covering on batman's eyes like in animated series.
Idk the reason why they did not include it, they may add some AR stuffs on that.
I understand the idea of making it realistic in a way, that it's possible even in a real life, but it takes away batman's epicness, and mysteriousness. Realistic batman is an idea, that started with nolan, and it doesn't seem to be over yet. I mean, let's just don't make an average joe out of batman, please.
remember he's an early batman, it's his second year. so he can improve later.
@@thegodzachieve he is everything but average. 🤦🏻♂️ but of course fanboys say everything to defend their thing. Instead of opening eyes, and demanding something better from the creators, they rather eat every nonsense without really enjoying it.
@@thegodzachieve partially. But it has some very serious flaws which ruins it for me.
If there was one thing I could change, it would be the wing-suit. Cape gliding has now become so ingrained in the character that it's a bit jarring when it's not there. Bizarrely, the moment he deployed the wing-suit, I didn't feel like I was looking at Batman anymore.
I understand that they wanted to go a more realistic route, but they still had a hand-held rapid-ascent grapnel, and good luck making that.
I can definitely see them introducing a cape glider in future films as Batman continues to tweak and improve his tech. Given that this takes place early on in his career, I like to think of the wingsuit as his first attempt at it.
I think there's something kinda fun about it. There's really no such thing as a definitive Batman, and were there, it would be made of too many things we've seen already, and not enough surprises. Sure, The Batman sacrifices the iconic visual of the gliding bat wings in favor of "realistic" gliding that needs no explanation. They also sacrificed the overt bat motif in the Batmobile. This Batman doesn't evoke bat imagery much beyond the ears. But that's what makes this film version its own thing, distinct from Nolan's Bond-like trilogy, Burton's and Schumacher's live-action cartoons, and Snyder's 'roided out domestic terrorist with the sci-fi military tech. When someone else brings their own vision in the fullness of time, it hopefully will be something else fully unexpected. It's not about getting closer and closer to "right," because this isn't about getting it "right,", it's about doing something creative and original with a familiar character.
@@rottensquid Naturally whenever an adaptation of source material is made, there will be interpretation and almost inevitably some aspects will be excluded. That's fine. It's to be expected.
I suppose it depends how much of what is considered iconic is left out. Ask a bunch of fans to describe Batman and a bunch of common aspects will be cited. Leave out too many of those and the character gets lost a bit. Luckily most of what I would consider Batman is there on screen.
Enough representation of the cape gliding aspect has been used now that it's something I notice if it's not there, even though it's something that's been added over time, like the grapnel gun in that regard.
But a film cannot be everything to everyone, and frankly it's a relatively small gripe which as the previous commenter pointed out, forms a good basis for Bruce to work on and improve. The film overall is solid.
@@Rekaert Right, of course. Neil Gaiman recently commented that if your Batman is a journalist in a yellow overcoat with a pet bat, it's no longer interpretation, it's just false advertising. The question is at what point does interpretation lose what's essential to the character.
I agree with everyone that the glide suit isn't as cool as the wings, but I disagree that this makes it a bad interpretation. The point of this Batman is to contrast Nolan's version by being just as "realistic," but need no explanation. The gliding explains itself. We don't need to know where the car came from because we see how he's been working on it himself. One can extrapolate that it's the same with his bat-cycle, all those banged together computers and tools, even the suit itself. He didn't need to involve Wayne-Tech's R&D department, to make high-tech James Bond type gadgets. He just cobbled them together himself. That makes this version of the character unique, at least in film. And that's always a good thing.
I think, if this movie leaves something to be desired, it's how Batman uses the bat motif as a tool to frighten people. We never see him using his cape and cowl to create a monstrous impression, or use darkness to play on people's fears. In fact, past the opening monologue about how he's become the shadows to strike fear into his enemies, he usually comes off as little more than a nut in a mask. Every once in a while he becomes more, like in the car chase. But it's rare. It's not something the film plays with often, and I kind of wish it did so more.
That said, I think this film did some phenomenal things with the character, not least was that marvelous costume design. Hats off to good ol' Glyn Dillon once again. Further, this was easily the best, most atmospheric Gotham committed to film since the Animated Series, and beats out every other film version by a country mile for pure gothic noir magnificence.
So I'll take Reeves' little unique flourishes as part of the package. Sometimes, picking at the flaws of a work of art does little but distract from its qualities. I think that's the case here. It's trying to be a "perfect" Batman film, it's trying to be its own Batman film. To complain about the details that aren't as good as other films makes "perfect" the enemy of good, and ruins the experience of a great film.
I just thought that being in his second year of being batman, it made sense that he still not had a cape that would glide, it's an advanced technology that would be implemented some years later in his carreer, I like to believe. The concept of a wing suit is realistic and practical and very experimental. We give it for granted because of Arkham Games and other animated sources that he always glided with his cape but it's not really true. Look for example as they shown in the video, in Year One, he used a glider, which made sense for the era Year One was written in. This batman is operating in a modern era and the wingsuit makes perfect sense as a prototype. It's something original and innovative I believe it was never thought before with this character.
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Winnie the pooh: you got any idea of what kinda problem you're in?
surviving the forehead smash off the steel girder lol
Did the flying scene on Lasalle street here in downtown Chicago. They filmed the truck flip there too from dark knight.
I appreciate the idea of the gliding scene in the movie, showing Bruce being nervous entrusting his life to a gadget he probably doesn't have a lot of experience with is a fresh take and it's very impressive that the wingsuit is not cgi (I really thought it was when I played the shot of him putting it on frame by frame) and was done practically.
with that said I think the wingsuit looks stupid, going for realism in a movie that has nanotech camera contact lenses from the New 52 is selfcontradicting and the cape tech from the Nolan movies was better in every way.
Really nice for the realism, but I prefer the cape from The Dark Knight Trilogy
but why wingsuit ........ we want the CAPE !
Going ham on the realism for the wing suit, but not for how he literally should've died when he smashed into the bridge. Bit on the silly side.
I hope in part two he will glide with the cape
I love this suit
I get what they were going for but tbh that scene in the movie looked derpy when it shouldve looked cool. Tbh I wouldnt be mad if they did it in full CGI if there were that many complications with it.
*this movies pretty damn good but that’s it*
even the best risk becoming an unsightly smear doing this
I doubt we’ll be seeing the ‘inflato-suit’ again.
That thing almost got him killed.
😂
So realistic they had to cgi it… so dumb
I know right? They didn't even kill John Turturro to keep Falcone's death realistic smh
Did you miss the part where they wanted to do it for real but had to compromise because of Covid?
Masterpiece
I understand the conception... But the first problem for me is that the scene visually isn't epic enough for the dramaturgy peak the events reach at that point (except the falling). The second problem is that Batman in that wing suit looks like a squirrel stuck in some bag...
The Batman is based off of Year 1, in which Batman is still in his infancy. His gear and armor are still in a prototype phase, and as the series moves on, we will see him evolve into the hardened Batman that we normally see in media.
I think it's one of the best scenes of the entire movie. Seeing something new, and shocking the audience with a never seen before wing suit, is what makes the scene epic, and even more important, realistic.
Him without cape looks like black suit version of daredevil
It still doesn’t make sense how he’s cape turns into that loool
3:15 that practical "wing" suit wasnt even used in the movie. The Scene right after this one is clearly CGI.
The wing suit I love the most realistic
… so he’s carrying a heavy suit of armor AND a wingsuit in his backpack when he’s walking around?
And think he’s always wearing the armor and use normal clothes to cover it. The backpack only has the mask and the cape.
@@truongnguyendac2032 Yeah, there's no way that armour fits in the bag lol. Definitely just throws his coat over it.
They got to add the bat glider in the next film
good stuff. subbed
Super realistic and super grounded…got news for you one man beating up multiple like Batman is not realistic.
um you haven't seen many fight videos have you I've seen 1 dude knock out 5 other dudes in less then a minute
Just have a small missing plot detail thought, 🤔 but does Batman abandon his tech that he uses?, like did he just leave that wing suit cape on the street? or does he go back and pick it up? , avoiding police finding it and tracking it to bruce Wayne. 🦇
I always thought it was funny that they didn't pursue him after that they were just like ehh whatever he's on the loose now..
You will believe a man can glide
I want that thumbnail as my wallpaper
nice, but the real criticism i have with this scene is his crash. the crash is too hard, too fast. no matter what, he would have several broken bones at the least ribs, and would need immediate medical attention, he wouldn't be able to stand let alone walk.
Him crashing on top of a bus and a bunch of other cars would take attention so people would notice and flock towards him. police are on the lookout so quickly would be on his tails. he can't run due to injury and so the only solution is to use a grappling hook and go to a building's roof, further limiting his area to escape and since he is hurt he won't move that easily.
even if he did, he now can only go from building to building by roof and so seriously limiting his escape route. he has no car/bike close by so really, he has no escaping potential. he would have been caught.
Personally i think it would have been a lot better if he just 'caught' in the bridge, had a smack against a wall, got a bit dizzy and had to cut himself loose to then either dive into the tunnels (sewers), or run away into the shadows, perhaps hear a motor start and indicate he flees.
well if you look close he hits his chest on the bridge which is completely padded so I'm pretty sure that broke the impact
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a scene that lasted only 5 seconds and they made a featurette out of it. These people keeps milking the franchise the juice is already stale.
Tom cruise would've just done it.
Nolan's static electricity giving the cape a boner wasn't all that scientifically sound, but it was plausible enough and the suit didn't need some bulky accessory gadget, it was built in. Ultimately I think it beats this.
wasnt this movie based on year one? isnt the whole purpose of the movie is that he just started this and is figuring it out as he goes.
I liked the scene, but I wanted to see a skilled batman too. I understand what they're going for, but I was a little shocked.
We'll get there.
Its going to be a whole series and as it goes on Batman will improve as well as improve his gear similar to how the Dark Knight trilogy did it. This movie was inspired by Batman: Year 1, and as such Batman is still in his infancy.
There are gonna be more movies in this series, in this one batman has only been batman for about a year and is still working things out. It makes more sense than batman immediately being amazing at everything, even stuff he's never tried before
I think more to the point, this movie is deliberately challenging the whole notion of superheroic capability. We've come to expect a certain amount of wish-fulfillment fantasy in our superheroes, where they effortlessly do impossible things.
Of course, wish fulfillment is part of the superhero package. It's why we love these films. On the other hand, it's escalated to the point it takes me out of the immersion experience. As with the 60s concept car Batmobile, which evolved into Anton Furst's crazy 80s Metropolis car, then Nathan Crowley's 2000s Lamborghini Hummer, all the way into that Star Wars ATV in Batman v Superman, Reeves' film had to dial the excess back to earth.
This Batman is definitely skilled, but I thought it was a good reminder that what he's doing is nuts. It's fun to fantasize that Batman is an expert at what he does, and to admire in his ultra-competence, but to me, it's a thrill to see him out there Batmaning by the skin of his teeth. That, I relate to. After all, he's doing crazy dangerous shit no one should do, no matter how good they are. The most expert cliff jumper in the world takes time to prepare for each jump. They don't have an army of cops after them.
It's still incredible what this Batman does, but it's all the more incredible when we acknowledge how no one can do all these things under all this pressure with perfect, flawless mastery. A Batman who's a master of 50 languages, 20 martial arts styles, every land or air vehicle in existence, advanced computer tech, advanced spy tech, advanced combat strategy, detective work, metallurgy, finance, riddle-solving, baking, and tiddlywinks starts to feel a tad... silly.
Ultimately, it just depends on what you want out of your superhero. Do you want to simply thrill in the fantasy of impossible competence? A Batman who's always master of his situation? Then this Batman may not be for you. But that's the whole point of rebooting this character again and again. The variety is the point.
i want a sequel asap
CHRIS NOLAN'S WINGSUIT WAS GROUNDED TOO ALSO LOOKED PRACTICAL AND COOL
I looked practical, but he still would have needed a parachute otherwise it would have killed him real life. So I wouldn’t call it grounded. The reason wingsuiters need a parachute is so they don’t splat upon landing.
NOT WHEN HE'S BREAKING INTO A GLASS BUILDING , STILL HIS WINGS WERE SO BIG IT CAN BE TOTALLY USED AS A PARACHUTE FOR A SLOW LANDING..(not like I don't like Matt reeves's Batman , he's mah boy, mah battinson)
@@ravivarma6537 the whole point is for it to look dumb and for him to fail wearing it
@@michaelmurphy8278 Ofcource I know that about Rob's suit ... Just saying
USING CAPS DOESN'T VALIDATE A STATEMENT
I think just an actual parachute would be less painful. Not as cool, but deffo less painful. He's going what... 40/50mph when he hits the bridge (HEAD FIRST) How's he still alive?? 😅.