My very first char back in vanilla at 2006 was a Dwarf Hunter, I am about to make one at k4 when it releases. Your guide makes me wanna try Night elf hunter. I like elves, I have played many times Night elf rogue.
Thanks for the video, solid information. What are your thoughts on pvp gear for phase 1? I've been sorting gear by highest stam/agil and 5% hit. Do you think that's the best way to go until next phase?
Good video. I like how you show what song is playing on the LHS. One suggestion: the music is a bit loud relative to your voice and initially put me off watching the video. Otherwise great video and summary.
Thanks! yeah in the beginning it was super loud, but i think it god better as it went on, and dw i have a brand new professional mic that ive been using on streams, and for my next video ill be using that :D
Captain very good guide mate but im always paranoide that your armor is too good and when someone shows in video doing pretty well with class maybe alot of times his enemy gear is bad and you/content creators in general who make the guide have good/awesome gear , but in this video you didn't show your gear , for example lets say i want to play pvp hunter and be pretty decent without having raid gears since its hard to get , what gear should i get ? and if its X gear then what make X gear from this dungeon is better than Y gear from other dungeon ?? also you play EU or NA and what server you plays on ? Thanks!
hey mate, the clips from here were from henhouse / northdale. the northdale clips i had tier 1 / some tier 2 gear while rest had naxx gear, and on henhouse everyone has equal gear :D Im playing on NA right now on Faerlina
stone form allows you to bandage against warriors in a trap/cc, it removes all poisons from other hunters plus wyrven sting. plus the other stuff you mentioned in your video. Also orc has 5 percent pet damage as well as increasing melee attack damage when you cant gain distance just being careful if used because bandages/healing will be 50% reduced. if you didn't feel the need to mention this because its not important that's fine but I think its important to mention it if you're comparing.
yeah i mean, those are so minimal i didnt feel the need to bring it up, i mentioned the orc pet being minimal in pvp, which it is. Hunters also never get wyvern stun unless the other hunter is really bad. you shouldnt ever use blood fury since the debuff lasts longer than the actual buff...
@@rodog504 u shouldnt even be in a root for that long, only maybe if ur net backfires but thats it. at that point you try and land a trap to not get damaged, since a hunter is rly bad in melee range.
Rodog doesn’t matter, if u have either of those on you, use feign trap to get away, it’s super easy since u don’t have to waste scatter to DR melee traps
Mainly just everything around WASD, I use A S D for abilities, and QWE to move. I only have 2 mouse buttons (FPS tournament mouse) so i use them for scare beast and shadowmeld
Always wanted to try old hunter with melee/dead zone and mana, is hunter very gear dependent? I really don't want to do AQ40 or Naxx, guilds and raids are just not my cap of tea. R14 is unreachable obviously. So the main question is - should I just wait till they release TBC/WotLK legacy servers? Or I can have good pvp experience without being roflstomped by some t2.5 or t3 chad?
Yo! Hunter is one of the least gear dependent classes, and toward naxx you fall off gear wise anyways, so you might find urself rerolling if u get that far
@@captain7745 I don't care about dps in raids, pve is boring anyways. I don't see myself going that far in PvE, raiding schedule just kills all the fun.
Melee Macro /cast raptor strike /cast wing clip ------------------ Spammable auto shot macro /cast !auto shot ------------------------------------ Unstuck macro for 1-10 speedleveling /click HelpFrameCharacterStuckStuck ------------------------ Important Feign Death macro to make it work on classic ( you can add /cast freezing trap after if you want ) /cast Feign Death /petpassive
@@captain7745 thanks man, read some other comments after i commented this and went to your discord and found most questions i have answered! Thanks this helps massively. What spec build is your personal favourite if i may ask? And any macros that are mandatory + personal macros that may help? Cheers
@@bicameralmind32 hey! on classic my favorite is probably the trueshot survival spec :) you should have a feign death macro and an aspect of cheetah macro ( /cancelaura aspect of cheetah)
@@SERBIANseljak if you cant get broken tooth then I would stay with wind serpent since its good for PvP at level 60 also, plus its a bitch to re level. A cat is slightly better for leveling, but its not better then brokentooth in pvp for sure.
By far are Orcs the best pvp option for horde hunters....there is no arguing with 25% stun resist and the 5% additional pet dmg come in handy especially if youre playing BT or any other high dps pet. For Alliance its Dwarfs imo.
Gotta say as a orc hunter I sleept on the the the moo boys I really didn’t know that they could take advantage of hit box tho that’s sounds pretty solid but not gonna lie the stun resistance from orcs has got me outta some sticky sticky situations
it only costs 10silver everytime u respec ur pet, so just spec him into whatever ur grinding / doing. for general Wpvp, id go with 90 pts shadow resist, 90 pts arcane resist, 45 pts frost resist, max rank claw, dash, and prowl :)
Nice vid. I was expecting to be a bigger guide but oh well. Figured id mention the tauren extra range can probably be achieved by using a growth potion which is probably cheaper than the pirate potion. So makes the tauren range kinda trivial. I do like the extra health on tauren tho and warstomp ofc
You seem to favor nelfs more than dwarfs. you list three pros for dwarfs and nelf you list things that all have to do with shadow meld. Cool you can go invisible. dwarfs can easily out play nelfs with stone form
in classic where DRs are a joke, shadowmeld is mnuch better for hunters. You can reset the fight whenever you want to and you´re in charge of when the fight start and stops
@@freezxng_moon even in 1v1s shadowmeld is really strong. Like I said, the invis allowed a nightelf to reset the fight as it sees fit. Kite away, invis behind any bush or tree, will allow the nelf to catch a few extra sips or bites of w/e food. I´m a troll hunter in classic and while I probably do the most dmg out of all hunters in game by combining racials with rapid fire, a nelf can feign-meld and it will cost a full global to get him out.. so yeah nelfs are strong :D
can barely understand you, cant turn it up cause it gets too distorted and cant turn it down cause the music is too loud, not really worth watching when i miss every 4th word
very dated but ok, at ~9m a shamans tremor will break any sleep, charm or fear on each 4s pulse, this removes wyvern. Further as its also a poison, a cleansing totem will also abolish it on 5s pulses. Any halfdecent sham will have both + grounding down (mainly for rogue blind + locks). Killing 3 totems and ccing 2 targets is abit too much.
16 year old teaches new generation of in game school shooters. Nice video archer man
Thank you for being one of the few who realized tauren rin is the best for PVP
Nice video!
My very first char back in vanilla at 2006 was a Dwarf Hunter, I am about to make one at k4 when it releases. Your guide makes me wanna try Night elf hunter. I like elves, I have played many times Night elf rogue.
First of all,greater video.One short question,did u said that if u use scatter before trap u wont gonna benefit from clever traps talent?
great info. just had to play at 0.75 speed to keep up. LOL
Great vid, would love to see some more detailed guides
Yeah mate!! I'm thinking of doing advanced guides now that this beginner one is over. Maybe an advanced Wpvp or an advanced dueling guide??
@@captain7745 Dueling IMO
Hello! Very late comment on video, how did you get that extra bar with consumes on top?
You should add a version of this with the music mix wayyyyy down.
More videos! Plan on going hunter your insane
awesome vid
o wow thenk cpt
What's the addon you use for unit frames. I love how it shows the class and the current snare
Its from pservers, but you can get LortiUI, it doesnt show CC tho :(
Thanks captain I can’t wait to play troll hunter on fresh!!1!1!11
Thanks for the video, solid information. What are your thoughts on pvp gear for phase 1? I've been sorting gear by highest stam/agil and 5% hit. Do you think that's the best way to go until next phase?
sounds good to me mate :D try to get full T1 before p2, set bonus is insanely strong
Ait you convinced me to play tauren. Like how they look more anyway. Does noggenfogger not change the hitbox like savory deviate delight?
I didnt try on beta, but people tell me it does :)
It does. I'm Tauren and I'm using it on Ony quite frequently because of her massive hitbox. With poor tank positioning I sometimes can't shoot :P
What macros do you use? can you provide them for me to try them out?
Hello,whats best race for hunter 1v1 pvp ?
Is it normal for traps not to work after dad? Never seems to work for me.
Good video. I like how you show what song is playing on the LHS. One suggestion: the music is a bit loud relative to your voice and initially put me off watching the video. Otherwise great video and summary.
Thanks! yeah in the beginning it was super loud, but i think it god better as it went on, and dw i have a brand new professional mic that ive been using on streams, and for my next video ill be using that :D
Captain very good guide mate but im always paranoide that your armor is too good and when someone shows in video doing pretty well with class maybe alot of times his enemy gear is bad and you/content creators in general who make the guide have good/awesome gear , but in this video you didn't show your gear , for example lets say i want to play pvp hunter and be pretty decent without having raid gears since its hard to get , what gear should i get ? and if its X gear then what make X gear from this dungeon is better than Y gear from other dungeon ?? also you play EU or NA and what server you plays on ? Thanks!
hey mate, the clips from here were from henhouse / northdale. the northdale clips i had tier 1 / some tier 2 gear while rest had naxx gear, and on henhouse everyone has equal gear :D Im playing on NA right now on Faerlina
How come you recommend serpent sting against hunters and not viper?
Where do i get skull of impending doom?
what HUD addon are you using? i was using perl but it doesnt show buffs or buff timers on people which is a big problem
LortiUI :)
I think the best PvP spec is the Wyvern spec but without wyvern shot. Take scattershot instead..
Great video!
Do you have an addon list?I like your setup.
yeah i do, its in my discord
@@captain7745 Thanks, I will check it out!
Wouldn't it be better to rank 1 viper on shamans? Keep bating out their cleanse and ironically drain their mana?
Omg mate what’s the addon that shows frost trap cooldown above the player?
I want to know aswell.
stone form allows you to bandage against warriors in a trap/cc, it removes all poisons from other hunters plus wyrven sting. plus the other stuff you mentioned in your video. Also orc has 5 percent pet damage as well as increasing melee attack damage when you cant gain distance just being careful if used because bandages/healing will be 50% reduced. if you didn't feel the need to mention this because its not important that's fine but I think its important to mention it if you're comparing.
yeah i mean, those are so minimal i didnt feel the need to bring it up, i mentioned the orc pet being minimal in pvp, which it is. Hunters also never get wyvern stun unless the other hunter is really bad. you shouldnt ever use blood fury since the debuff lasts longer than the actual buff...
@@captain7745 yeah i mean if you've already bandaged or used a pot in a 1vx or whatever i would use blood fury if i couldnt get distance.
@@rodog504 u shouldnt even be in a root for that long, only maybe if ur net backfires but thats it. at that point you try and land a trap to not get damaged, since a hunter is rly bad in melee range.
@@captain7745 hamstring or crippling is what i mean if you can't get distance.
Rodog doesn’t matter, if u have either of those on you, use feign trap to get away, it’s super easy since u don’t have to waste scatter to DR melee traps
Why addon Claas bar???
Doesn't scatter put you in combat? Can't trap while in combat.
what is that nameplate addon?
Hey, can I ask what are your keybinds?
Mainly just everything around WASD, I use A S D for abilities, and QWE to move. I only have 2 mouse buttons (FPS tournament mouse) so i use them for scare beast and shadowmeld
Always wanted to try old hunter with melee/dead zone and mana, is hunter very gear dependent? I really don't want to do AQ40 or Naxx, guilds and raids are just not my cap of tea. R14 is unreachable obviously. So the main question is - should I just wait till they release TBC/WotLK legacy servers? Or I can have good pvp experience without being roflstomped by some t2.5 or t3 chad?
Yo! Hunter is one of the least gear dependent classes, and toward naxx you fall off gear wise anyways, so you might find urself rerolling if u get that far
@@captain7745 I don't care about dps in raids, pve is boring anyways. I don't see myself going that far in PvE, raiding schedule just kills all the fun.
I would prefer to focus as much on PvP as possible. How much do I need to do PvE for gear and such if I just want to PvP?
5% hit cap / agi + stam gear basically... the more pve gear u get the better, since there isnt PvP gear out in phase1
Can you not actually FD -> Meld casts in Classic? ie Coil/PoM Pyro
Nah. You can shadowmeld it, but all it does is you dont run away in fear, u just stand there until coil wears off.
Yo cap, are you having any issue with Feign Death taking to much time to drop combat?
Yeah its a known bug that has to do with the batching. I'm confident they'll fix it soon since thats not how it was in classic. ^.^
@@captain7745 Was it the same in the beta?
Nagamori yah feign was bugged in the beta as well
@@captain7745 Yikes
@@captain7745 us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feign-death-trap-bug/278131/382
what's that addon that tracks all your cds and pet cds?
its nugrunning for classic, in the vid its a pserver :)
broken tooth vs wind serpent wich one is best?
broken tooth
N1, ty for your work. If it isnt too much can u give us a list of macros? Hard time with traps atm to be honest.
Melee Macro
/cast raptor strike
/cast wing clip
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Spammable auto shot macro
/cast !auto shot
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Unstuck macro for 1-10 speedleveling
/click HelpFrameCharacterStuckStuck
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Important Feign Death macro to make it work on classic ( you can add /cast freezing trap after if you want )
/cast Feign Death
/petpassive
@@captain7745 tyty!
are the UI addons availble for classic? If so, can somone link me please im in desperate need of a clean ui like this b4 bgs launch
if you go to my stream i linked all of my UI in there if you do !addons in chat
@@captain7745 thanks man, read some other comments after i commented this and went to your discord and found most questions i have answered! Thanks this helps massively. What spec build is your personal favourite if i may ask? And any macros that are mandatory + personal macros that may help? Cheers
@@bicameralmind32 hey! on classic my favorite is probably the trueshot survival spec :) you should have a feign death macro and an aspect of cheetah macro ( /cancelaura aspect of cheetah)
@Mervin Parkman /petpassive /cast feign death
Great guide, I'm thankful for you sharing this knowledge
Please tell me the names of the dnb songs tho :D
np, unfortunately i dont know what the song is lol, im sure if u use shazam u can find, i forgot the name
"Gnomish den of magic" on priests, what did you say ?
gnomish net o matic
Glute maximus Irish hunter gang
so witch pet do you recommend for leveling and pvping ?
wind serpent if ur horde until you can tame broken tooth - for alliance just get any pet with claw and try to get a cat until brokentooth
@@captain7745 if i cant get broken tooth then
to stay with wind seprent ?
@@SERBIANseljak if you cant get broken tooth then I would stay with wind serpent since its good for PvP at level 60 also, plus its a bitch to re level. A cat is slightly better for leveling, but its not better then brokentooth in pvp for sure.
@@captain7745 so, whats your opinion on feing death plus trap combo macros not working ?
Filip stanojlovic sorry late response, but it works for the most part now, just delayed
Best for bgs sonis surv , mm
music is pretty loud
Orc for hunter good choice?
Yeah its solid! :D
@Captain you forgot to mention orc racial Command that gives pets more dmg
@@ruralitguy no he didn't
@@ruralitguy 10:45
By far are Orcs the best pvp option for horde hunters....there is no arguing with 25% stun resist and the 5% additional pet dmg come in handy especially if youre playing BT or any other high dps pet.
For Alliance its Dwarfs imo.
Hell no stealth cat and shadowmeld ambushes for the win!!!
sexy night elf-women top😍
Gotta say as a orc hunter I sleept on the the the moo boys I really didn’t know that they could take advantage of hit box tho that’s sounds pretty solid but not gonna lie the stun resistance from orcs has got me outta some sticky sticky situations
ehm what about music down wtf ?
music much too loud
so annoying.... Don't people watch their content before uploading? Couldn't even finish this video.
dude the music pleease
How should you put your pet training points?
it only costs 10silver everytime u respec ur pet, so just spec him into whatever ur grinding / doing. for general Wpvp, id go with 90 pts shadow resist, 90 pts arcane resist, 45 pts frost resist, max rank claw, dash, and prowl :)
Nice vid. I was expecting to be a bigger guide but oh well. Figured id mention the tauren extra range can probably be achieved by using a growth potion which is probably cheaper than the pirate potion.
So makes the tauren range kinda trivial.
I do like the extra health on tauren tho and warstomp ofc
You only gain the bigger hitbox with Tauren race
Does wotf remove wyvern sting?
No, it's a poison.
It does.
Name addons pls
in my discord (link in desc)
You made a mistake saying wyvern sting is better on Alliance than horde will of The Forsaken breaks sleep
Nah, its better also because paladins :P Especially dwarf paladins...
no trolls??? :(
Trolls are a nono for pvp :) om guessing thats why it's not covered
trolls are terrible for pvp :(
@@captain7745 Hi sir why is it troll a nono for pvp?
I think dwarf hunter is better than you think.
music too loud it blocks the voice.
music too loud
Your music in the background is too loud for your voice.
Can you post your elvui code?
You seem to favor nelfs more than dwarfs. you list three pros for dwarfs and nelf you list things that all have to do with shadow meld. Cool you can go invisible. dwarfs can easily out play nelfs with stone form
in classic where DRs are a joke, shadowmeld is mnuch better for hunters. You can reset the fight whenever you want to and you´re in charge of when the fight start and stops
@@oJackOfSpades for defending objectives alone its worth it, because thats the point of the game lmao, not winning a 1v1
@@freezxng_moon even in 1v1s shadowmeld is really strong. Like I said, the invis allowed a nightelf to reset the fight as it sees fit.
Kite away, invis behind any bush or tree, will allow the nelf to catch a few extra sips or bites of w/e food. I´m a troll hunter in classic and while I probably do the most dmg out of all hunters in game by combining racials with rapid fire, a nelf can feign-meld and it will cost a full global to get him out.. so yeah nelfs are strong :D
"Shamans have no way of getting out" (of wyvern sting)
Poison cleansing totem?
can barely understand you, cant turn it up cause it gets too distorted and cant turn it down cause the music is too loud, not really worth watching when i miss every 4th word
I literally can't hear anything over the music
Paul's Game and Fish my bad, first actual guide video, but I just bought an actual separate mic so next one will be much better ^^
@@captain7745 all good. Not talking shit, just stating. I ended up using headphones. Good info here
music is loud asf dawg
very dated but ok, at ~9m a shamans tremor will break any sleep, charm or fear on each 4s pulse, this removes wyvern. Further as its also a poison, a cleansing totem will also abolish it on 5s pulses. Any halfdecent sham will have both + grounding down (mainly for rogue blind + locks). Killing 3 totems and ccing 2 targets is abit too much.
eh there are better BM specs than the one you showed, but this is why classic is so great so much diversity!
What did you think was necessary to change? I dont htink you can make this spec any better tbh..
Frost trap is still broke in classic
losing my religion
cant hear shit lmao
the text seems interresting but the music is unbearable. seriously
He needs video skills..wtf is he saying. Speaking into a pillow with that stupid music...
Too boring 😴
Dude, turn the music down! Jesus.... distracting as hell. Stopped watching after 1min because of it