What did the Americas Look like before and after Conquest? | Thomas Sowell
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Dr. Sowell's scholarship in general is often praised in the comment section of his videos, but I would like to praise in particular his grammar and word precision. It definitely makes his complex ideas easier to digest.
Worth doing our best to emulate, follow, imitate, copy, R G, to be redundant for effect.
Though we're not at his level, we can learn to better communicate by observing his speech and writing.
His brief and powerful answers to Peter Robinson's questions in the Uncommon Knowledge interviews, are enlightening, amazing and often fun, as we listen and watch his sensible expose's of errant theories and narratives.
He also has a very soothing voice that makes listening to him a pleasure.
I like that he only uses 3 dollar words when necessary. Doesn't try to impress with his vocabulary.
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Pretty positive statement there Mr N.
Agree completely.
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He does this without sacrificing clarity or precision. On the other hand, you have people like Michael Eric Dyson who uses unnecessarily big words precisely to disguise the fact that he is a nitwit. I remember someone describing his talk aptly as a salad with only the salad dressing.
Dr. Sowell is a national treasure!
Dr. Sowell is an international treasure.
Why do I get the distinct impression that I was forced to waste 12 years in public schools learning limited information and mostly useless garbage when I could have spent 6 months watching Thomas Sowell videos and learned 100x more ?
I’ve learned so much from Thomas Sowell over the years, Thank you sir.
Human nature is absolutely same World Wide, no exception.
We're animals after-all and recorded History is just a nanosecond in the lifetime of Homo Sapiens. Free will exists but many of our actions are just instinct; morality doesn't exist in Nature - it was created but rarely followed.
@@MrClean-ms4nx whatever makes you happy…
@@anthonylemkendorf3114 Some people can't handle the truth. It seems you are one of them.
Human nature depends on our technology and living arrangement. Human nature did no involve agriculture thousands of years ago, so we had to redo our lives to fit the new narrative. Likewise, civilization is not human nature, but we also had to redo our lives to fit that narrative. Since we are all here on TH-cam listening a black guy telling us what we should technically all know, it suggests that everybody on this board is some level of civilized and that human nature does not really mean anything. A long time ago it was the norm for somebody in the country of Texas to decide they should go to war against somebody from the country of Missouri because Missouri was not their people and they do not have segregation. But alas, Texas has never been at war with Missouri, so it proves that Human nature is not what is used to be.
@@arch3088 you know us “animals”..
I can only imagine what the world would be if all the people know their own history...and understand it.
I learned more in this video than my entire high school career.
Thank you, Dr. Sowell for defending Spain and Europe from all the black legends widely spread in society, especially Latin American, which is far from reality.
Hispanic America *
That's not exactly a defense
@@justinnamuco9096 At this point telling the truth is actually a defense.
@@KarolusTemplareV good point
According to legends of various US tribes, the reason that the Great Plains were as empty as they were when the European colonists arrived is that the tribes that survived had just finished a geocidal war against the peoples (whoever they were) who lived in the "mound culture" (which is all we know of them today). The surviving tribes accused these people of cannibalisms and slavery which is why they said they did things like trapping them in a cave and setting fire to it. They even sometimes claim that these people had light or fair skin. It seems clear due to the wide spread mounts in the Great Plains that this was a dominant settled culture that totally died out. Regardless of what destroyed the settled people of the American Great Plains, Hunter/gatherers were all that were left after the event. The mounds have never been sufficiently studied for various mostly nefarious reasons. Hopefully the truth will come out one day.
Why do they ask you how? Holding up their hands.
"You do not happen to have six fingers on your right hand?" Inconceivable.
I love history and I'm beyond tired of the fake history and false narrative that is passed off as accurate history. I don't believe the indians were saints before the white man arrived and I don't believe the white man was entirely a villian. I believe there was more than enough barbarity and nobility on both sides to go around. Where can I learn more about this war/event that ended the great plains dwellers? I've never heard of it before but it makes sense.
Recently learned that many if not most diseases in humans are latent in nature. That is, the causal agent exists more or less benignly in animal or natural hosts and sometimes jumps to humans. The handful of "pandemic" virus' that have come out of Asia in the past dozen years are in this category.
It's claimed that North America was immune to the diseases that constantly swept back and forth across the rest of the worlds population because there was no communication between the two land masses but that's not true. Birds are hosts to a lot of the diseases that have jumped to humans and birds that migrate long distances, especially over oceans are constantly blown off course and end up thousands of miles from their normal migration routes. I've heard of birds that normally transit between Australia and Asia ending up on the West Coast of the US. This has presumably been happening since time immemorial and would have been an easy conduit for disease to the inhabitants of North and South America long before modern man showed up.
@@mattobermiller5041 Unfortunately, you can not learn of it anywhere. There are undeniably ancient mounds throughout the Midwest and Great Planes made in all shapes and sizes. But no one has been allowed to study them recently. There are rumors of what has been found in past decades when one or two of these have been opened. And allegations that the Smithsonian Institutes is hiding the contents. The only people who talk about it are armatures who are quickly shut down. I think we will have to defeat Globalism in order to find some semblance of the truth.
@@raedaily9854 Thank you for the reply and information. I grew up in Ohio which has some mounds and the farm in Central Ohio where I grew up had what was said to be a bowl shaped indian graveyard on top of the steep hill back behind it. Our Amish neighbors walking behind horses, plowing, had bushel baskets of arrow heads and even some spear heads from their bottom land fields. Lots of evidence of indian occupation in the area but, unlike most other areas of the US, there is no known genetic remnant of them left. They are totally gone, possibly wiped out long before white man came along.
Can you tell me where you found that the surviving tribes talked about this war. I am really interested into this stuff, and have been trying to find more information on this but have hard practically an impossible time doing so
This was so interesting gave a more realistic picture of what went on.
This is what we should be teaching our children in schools, not CRT!!
This is CRT but will not be taught unless it shows whites in a bad light
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I disagree. This is anti critical and instead sympathetic to the time and limited knowledge of historical populations.
The smallpox thing was in fact purposeful biological warfare against the native peoples who welcomed whites as gods and as soon as their numbers were up they waged war on the remnants.. there is fact in CRT but there's always more nuance than the mainstream cares for, it wasn't about race per say, just resources/money
However the book of revelations and the book of Daniel in the Bible Christian white nationals love so much does refer to Rome and its subsidiaries i.e. Europe as the beast/the dragon that rushed to swallow Jesus after his birth, deceived the whole world ,the kingdom of iron turned to clay before a rock smashes all kingdoms so maybe CRT should focus more on nations than race
@@jojohnviz12 There is one documented case of an attempt to purposefully use smallpox - from the 1760s. It didn't need to be purposeful. Death by disease happened by the mere interaction between the populations.
@@carnakthemagnificent336 "by their fruits you shall know them" - their fruits were a 90%+ decrease in the Indian population. Same fate as everywhere the white/roman man went to settle. + As soon as their numbers were high their true intentions were evident with loads of wars v the surviving Indians
Thomas Sowell is a gift, a gem, a treasure and his voice should be in every classroom around the world.
I could have listened to that for another 3 hours. You need to make a part 2
Buy the audiobook? ;)
@@steves8860 I have been looking for an audiobook for this and can't seem to find it anyone know where I can get it?
Dr. Thomas Sowell, you are a national treasure! I have no idea why you are not known and regarded more highly by more people. You should be!
The conquistadors were Christian supremacists, culture was judged back then. They witnessed 80,000 people murdered in human sacrifice by the Aztecs in the first week. It was easier to defeat the Aztecs because they had brutalized and enslaved many of the small tribes and people who inhabited the land. The conquistadors banded up with these people and defeated the Aztecs.
Not defending the conquistadors fully, but the idea of the Aztecs being strictly victimized and not being brutal victimizers themselves is false and unfortunately is the current woke mindstate.
Many primitive cultures around the world were cannibals, nothing to gain respect for.
The human sacrifice numbers are greatly exaggerated by the Spanish. Thousands, maybe, but 80000 in a week unlikely. What is more important to know is that 500 years ago an event occurred which converted most people to Christianity there, perhaps as many as 6 million. At the same time in Europe millions were loosing their faith. That event, the miracle of our lady of Guadalupe, is also worth a closed look.
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The population of Europe was like 76 million in the late 1500's. Spain had just finished fighting a 781 year war between each other and the Moors before unifying into Spain and expelling not just the Muslims but every ethnic group that was not Spanish. It is estimated that up to 50% of the population of Iberia was killed or expelled. The Reconquista was a brutal time, but the Muslim Conquest of Hispaniola destroyed the Visigoth Kingdom and saw the subjugation of the Christian Berbers in North Africa who were used as shock troops by the Umayyads. When Cortez realized the feudal warring nature of Mexican city-states, he knew what to do. It is really amazing how many Indigenous Conquistadors fought for Spain and how far they travelled. Also, in the late 1400's the Portuguese sent a ship to India and back then sent out a war fleet within a year and burned Islamic cities on the East Coast of Africa. The Arabs assumed if anyone sailed passed Madagascar, they would simply fall off the edge of the world so the Arabs had a soft underbelly. The Portuguese recognized their weakness, bypassing the Ottomans who were milking the Europeans dry in trade from Asia and India while the Ottomans used that wealth to wage wars against Europe. The Spanish using the wealth from the New World began waging the Italian Wars and challenging France who until that time was the dominant power in Europe. That wealth gave Spain massive power and Charles the 1st of Spain became the Holy Roman Emperor by 1519. The Europeans gaining control of the spice trade and other cash crops now made the Mediterranean far less relevant and the Ottomans and Venetians declined in power and the Mediterranean was a backwater until the construction of the Suez Canal in 1869 made the Mediterranean relevant again. Venice was eventually conquered by Napoleon because it was just too poor to fight back anymore and the Ottoman Empire survived until WWI, but neither recovered from the Europeans figuring out they could travel the oceans.
Religion was important but trade is why Columbus sailed across the Atlantic Ocean trying to find a way to Asia to get past the Ottomans. The Muslims were building fleets and launching invasions at Europe using money from trade as the Levant was the backbone of the Roman and Byzantine Empires before the Ottomans and the center of the trade routes.
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And would they have ever questioned their own behavior?
Dr. Sowell, Dr. Williams, Dr. Carson, Larry Elder, Dr. King made me to appreciate my country even more and proud to serve this nation.
Dr. King was a commie and probably a plagiarist.
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He was Socialist but his view and idea shouldn't be judged.
Dr.Thomas Sowell is an American treasure.
Nice, did you come up with that?
What an AMAZING MIND ❣️ Succinct, comprehensive , BRILLIANT, communication! What an EDUCATOR 👍
Thank you once again Dr. Thomas Sowell. If we had more Educators like Thomas Sowell. Parents wouldn’t have to worry about someone Transgenderlysing and Indoctrinating our Children 👧? All day long Yahoo
I like how he simply juxtaposes facts rather than the emotional outbursts we are used to from so many modern pundits.
Listening to Dr. Sowell is like music. It is a voice that just conveys intellectual and reason.
What a marvellous voice you have Mr Sowell.
That is not his voice, that is the voice of a voice actor who has done the readings of several audio versions of books by Dr. Sowell
@@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 WHAT!
@@redwingrob1036 i don't think this is put out by him , somebody that likes his work does these'. buy his books if you want to support him.
@@victorhopper6774 ON my 2 do list.
STILL aghast although...
Deep.
Dr Sowell is a National Treasure !.
Great words and voice.
That part about "used" women was sad even if it wasnt revelatory. What Sowell didnt mentioned is that many white imigrants came to north america on very bad terms and didnt have very much better life than slaves
How many white Europeans immigrating to america were legally classified as property, raped, worked without pay, and prevented from owning land?
@@warrengosling INDENTURED servants = slaves by another name.
@@redwingrob1036 Wrong. You clearly don't understand the difference between an indentured servant and a chattel slave. And hardly any Europeans came to the USA as indentured servants anyway. You're making up history
@@warrengosling Lots of Irish were sold as slaves and often treated worse than those taken from Africa. Many political prisoners were taken and sold as slaves as well. They used to make black and white movies about it. Ever see Captain Blood?
@@warrengosling WE'LL see WG.
I reserve the right to be wrong.
Thank you. Excellent material that demands a wider audience.
It’s not that I necessarily learn facts I didn’t know before; instead it is the apt phrasing and narrative building that makes this so powerful to me.
Why have I never heard of this man till this year???? I really feel cheated. We needed this calm cultured voice putting out this no bs/politically motivated honest assessment of accurate history a long time ago.
Because they wanted to keep him hidden so people would mkt one the truth
Interesting - so well presented
The Aztecs sacrificed 20,000 people a year and sometimes over 80,000 in a year with special religious meaning. They would raid other smaller tribes. That also is why many allied with Cortes. So for the last 500 years that is millions of people who did not have their beating hearts ripped out of their chests. So millions today are only alive because the Spaniards arrived, BTW the Aztecs originated in what we now call Utah, They migrated south taking land and slaughtering people along the way. Just like the rest of us humans. There are no innocent cultures now or ever only innocent individuals. Well, maybe yogurt is innocent.
Apparently horses were "re"-introduced to the Americas, as they were present on the continent but went "extinct" for some reason
Yah, unfortunately it something to do with some new, weird predator that showed up that liked using the hot stuff and the heavy fiber stuff to chase and corner them with it.
Actually the "horse" - as we know it today - is a product of breeding. The original horse was far too small and weak to carry a rider. The horse in the Americas was hunted to extinction by the oh so peaceful and "ecological" native tribes.
Not the same, and unrelated type of horse in the americas. Then the type the Spanish. Also no evidence that native people in the americas ever domesticated the horse as it was extinct by then .
Europeans, according to some theories, had more diseases they were resistant to, from being more apt to live in large cities. And they were maybe at the top of the conquering game at the time that conquering went somewhat out of fashion, with some outliers (WW2 Germany and Japan, the USSR and the PRC) notwithstanding. That perhaps had positive effects for Europeans as far as wealth is concerned, but bad effects reputation-wise.
the God of the Europeans was more powerful than the Indigenous gods
Your comment suggests that there is more than one god and, amongst the gods, there exits a hierarchy. It also suggests that the most powerful rules, not the most merciful or knowledgeable or whomsoever. Interesting.
@@bunkerhill4854In classical Christianity the pagan gods are demons. That gives context to your observations and gives clarity on matters regarding the hierarchy and respective morality of these gods.
Remind me to post this on Indigenous Peoples Day.
Genius.
The same species of horse (Equus ferus) that had been domesticated in the steppes of Eurasia some 6,000 years ago, was the one that went extinct in North America at the end of the Pleistocene some 10,000 years ago or less. Thus, the Spanish reintroduced the horse to North America in 1519.
Wow
It is generally believed that the horse, camel, giraffe, well actually virtually all pack animals all went down when humans arrived at the end of the ice age. New diseases, and a new predator called man, showed up, and so today nobody thinks of the New world as being the place where Giraffe's and Camels came from.
@@jrus690 The horse family (Equidae) and camel family (Camelidae) did both originate in North America. However, the giraffe family (Giraffidae) are of either African or Eurasian origin. As for other pack animals (cattle, sheep, goats), they're all in the family Bovidae, which is also of either African or Eurasian origin. But yes, human activity (habitat alteration and overhunting) did take their toll on wild Pleistocene megafauna all over the world.
Yup
Thanks Doc!
also alot of europeans came by force also its how the term youve been shanghaied comes from the pilgrims were essentially political or religious refuges
To have been Shanghai-ed meant, to have been gotten piss drunk by sea a captain and signed a deal to become a seaman, or having been kidnapped, and it happened in San Francisco and men woke on ships in the Pacific Ocean on the way to Shanghai 😮
Everyone who enjoys these videos should buy a copy of Conquest and Culture!!!
Syphillis was in Europe before Columbus.
Can you imagine living during this time; it must have been like discovering bipedal life on another planet!
Well the two ends of the world met
Why we have CRT and nor Dr. Sowell materials in US education system?
Because Washington D.C. bureaucrats don't want people that question them, but useful idiots that vote for increasing their own political power.
I don't think people are ready for this history.
Thank you again Dr
There is little doubt that large communities of Indians died from European-based infections like smallpox, but diseases from Europe also killed very large numbers of whites as well. It is likely that any lack of resistance to infections worsened outcomes for people rather than CAUSED them.
Incomparable honestly
Love this channel
I got a great laugh at the lines on the Scots-Irish land claiming habits!😆😆💩
The diseases introduced to the New World are invariably described as “European Diseases” (usually only mentioning Smallpox, influenza or measles)… but what about Yellow Fever, Malaria or other tropical diseases originating in Africa?
With the majority of the pre-Colombian population living in the tropics, would these diseases not have had a disproportionate impact?
Yellow fever from Africa was mentioned. Europeans and Indians were impacted by it.
Strangely enough, the cure, or at leas the best known treatment for malaria is quinine, which comes from a tree in South America. It is unknown who discovered it's use as a treatment/prophylaxes for malaria, but it was most probably an Indigenous healer, usually a woman who was trained in the medicinal herbs in her forest/jungle range.
Don't think the European man was immune to these pathogens, as He/She were not, and many in Europe died of these pandemics as well.
The mosquitoes that spread this disease did come from equatorial Africa, and were carried to the New World in water casts aboard the ships of discovery, as well as around the world !!!
Native cultures simply had even less resistance to these pathogens than did Europeans.
Tim
That truth doesn’t fit in the commie narrative, so not important to them .
I think it's unfair to blame disease spread upon people who didn't understand how diseases spread.
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That's what people fail to realize. The spread of diseases were not deliberate. It also began before anyone realized they had not found India after all.
Can a person's IQ level be limited by the language they speak?
For example, a word in the English language can have more than just one definition, depending on the spelling or how it is used in a sentence. Words like wear, ware, where, weir, wair, seen, scene, etc.
Koreanic language uses fewer words in a sentence, sometimes one verb is enough to communicate. One word can have different pronunciations, different definition, depending on what manner the word is pronounced. Loud or soft can change what is being meant.
An expanded vocabulary influences thought, creativity, helps understand complex problems. These are key elements in gaining knowledge, and without it more effort would be required to reach the same level.
I think the 8 million figure is definitely more accurate than 90 million in the 1491 Western hemisphere. 15-20 tops.
In 1820, they think there was about 100k Natives west of the Mississippi.
@@tomasmccauley569 Yes, that sounds about right.
Incredible
The Searchers may well have been fairly accurate in it's portrayal of the attitudes of people towards women captured by amerinds.
I'd regard this level of knowledge as 'good grade 'O'-level' by British academic standards.
That's a high and competent knowledge for a 16 year old student. I am of the 'British Boomer' generation. Born, 1960.
Saying "Indians", which literally means from India, is jarring, and suggests sloppiness.
When the now African American looks back on their family history through genealogy and discovers his great-great grand parents were full blooded American Indian on their birth record or census first and died being called "Black" or "Negro" later.
Would you rather be colonized by the Spanish or the Aztecs?
I find it interesting he mentions natives taking european captives in argentina and pennsylvania, but not euros taking native slaves in california, north carolina, and virtually everywhere the spanish went.
It's not exactly true that the western hemisphere had never seen horses before contact with Europeans. Horses evolved in the Americas and migrated over the Alaska to Siberia land bridge during the ice age. They later went extinct in the Americas, but survived in Asia.
Very interesting
Thank you! the genoside of the Arménien population made by the Tuquish around 1915...
These need to be released on a podcast channel so i don’t have to deal with TH-cam. Would do very well. (If that’s already a thing then I’m sorry i am dumb. Haha)
Don't get me wrong he's brave for attacking the craziness our world is experiencing but he's overlooking or is unwilling to deal with the real elephant in the room. I am not attacking Dr sowell I admire him greatly.
Oh no....not the truth.... anything but that!!
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Native American gave the world a product that has negatively affected all: Tobacco.
Also syphilis.
Tobacco was brought by the Turks to Europe. The word "tabak" is Turkish. And I think it's the tabacco industry's injecting 100's of chemicals in the cigarets is the real issue.
Smoking is hazardous for your health regardless
@@MR-dm1gx The English word tobacco originates from the Spanish word "tabaco". The precise origin of this word is disputed, but it is generally thought to have derived, at least in part, from Taíno, the Arawakan language of the Caribbean. Hand rolled cigarettes from Turkey appeared in Europe in the mid 1800's. The Tobacco plant originated in North America, where the natives were using it back tp 6000 BC. The Spanish introduced Tobacco to the Ottoman Turks and over time, the Turks developed their own Tobacco industry, as others.
@@Sturgeonmeister That told M R
He depicts Natives as savages, which is typical western education. He fails to mention how clean and educated the Aztecs were. The Maya was the first civilization in the world to develop the concept of zero.
He is reading from the journals of the western invaders. These are their words.
Wrong mr sowell. The tribal american indian had a matriarchal system, so they were treated better then the Christians and the republic men would, so alot of women went back to the tribe to because they wanted too.
Guns, Germs and Steel. I suggest you read it.
Much of his information is incorrect or he leaves out key information to manipulate his audience. However, because many are not informed or/and are persuaded by his professorial tone/delivery his inaccuracies go unchecked.
For example, he seems to justify the Trans-Atlantic slave trade by declaring that ALL societies have enslaved others over the course of history. However, what he omitted is that the US had a constitution, established laws/courts, and an established religious system based on the Bible/teachings of Christ. Americans, for a large part, had known/practiced Christianity and indeed Christianity was 1,600 to 1,800 years old (give or take). You cannot compare the morals of some ancient society to the high moral standards of 17th century European/America.
Meh bullshit 😂
Correction.
07:10 should be
100 million not
1 million.
OTHER things we can thank the N American Indians/1st Nations etc for lacrosse & Ice hockey 🏒
Not the best sports
@@jameskhan1320 NO way man!
SOUNDS like you've never been to a hockey game. I have.
LACROSSE still waiting to see the World championships.
I forgot, but a N American sport I really enjoyed watching in the 1970s on Canadian TV was roller derby.
LOL if my parents know how rough it could get, I would've been banned from watching it!
Go and watch the movie, "Geronimo".
it makes me sick that race is a more important & defining characteristic now in 2022, than it was in 1622. the fact that its among the supposed 'liberal' party only makes it more worrying.
Did he say in the 17th century the entire population of Europe was only 1 million? Or did I mishear or incorrectly comprehend, because there were certainly a lot more than a million. Most big European forces of those times (UK, France, Germany, Spain, Portugal Poland-Lithuania, Russia) had 5-20 million.
One million in the Western Hemisphere, i.e. colonies of Europeans in the Americas
Much of his information is incorrect or he leaves out key information to manipulate his audience. However, because many are not informed or/and are persuaded by his professorial tone/delivery his inaccuracies go unchecked.
For example, he seems to justify the Trans-Atlantic slave trade by declaring that ALL societies have enslaved others over the course of history. However, what he omitted is that the US had a constitution, established laws/courts, and an established religious system based on the Bible/teachings of Christ. Americans, for a large part, had known/practiced Christianity and indeed Christianity was 1,600 to 1,800 years old (give or take). You cannot compare the morals of some ancient society to the high moral standards of 17th century European/America.
@@DonOneDetroit And Chad didn't criminalise slavery until 2017!
@@slawekra4822 I’m not sure how what Chad did is relevant. I’m not even sure if Chad formally existed while the Atlantic Slave Trade was ongoing. The USA/Europe all had longstanding Christian-based governments with established laws and a formal government during this period.
Millions of dollars where given to the indians?. Which ones and how much?. Were the war crimes more expensive then reservations and encomiendas?
The million-inhabitant settlements of the Mississippi basin has deep implications. You can't have a society like that without specialization in labour, top-down leadership, and some kind of bureaucracy - formalized or abstract. A friend of mine is a historical anthropologist and cleverly described the period of colonization as "The Mad Max years" - after being decimated by disease which moved far quicker than the colonists, the collapse in population ended in a collapse in culture. The "savages" that Europeans saw were the desperate remnants of a dead culture. Any culture to collapse that hard would have behaved the same.
Yes, true to a degree. But you can't argue that it was a race war against the natives. It was just natural course of history. Just happened to be the whites turn then. No Racial master plan to take over the reds.
@@porcudracului I'm sure it was in one or two places, but yeah overall it was horrible but not in any way that isn't consistent with the rest of history.
we are all remnants of dead cultures. the king is dead long live the king.
Love Sowells work but horses originated in the Americas and became extinct there tho some had crossed to Asia and became domesticated and returned with the Spanish ti the Americas , he should check his facts 😜
Humans are humans
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You keep saying the indians for specific territories. Be specific mr. Sowell when talking about a certain events.
Columbus wasn't the first one here but he was the first one to con the natives, along with Samuel de Champlain
Wow this is one of the dumbest hot takes I've ever seen.
The Vikings were first but also completely inconsequential. But even if you do like to point out that they were here first, it's incredibly unlikely that a **viking** never conned a native American during the entire time that the Vikings had contact with the native Americans.
Of course that's not even counting all the native Americans that already existed, (which people like you love to selectively get on a soapbox and rant about how people forgot them, then forget them when it's convenient for you to pretend that white people are the only people who've ever done anything wrong) which had a 100% chance of conning each other in that history
@@rationalobserver3675 THE FRENCH DID
@@garyclothier9914 The Indians scammed the European's as well. The Indian's who sold Manhatten Island didn't own it. The tribe that did who did own it died out due to plague & Manhatten Island was considered cursed.
@@readhistory2023 the land is a charter of a ship, who owns the openings of the biggest waterways on the ship and the Bill of Rights, I mean bill of lading that is in it LOL
@@garyclothier9914 I don't know what crazy alt-hist theories you're reading, but the French did not come to the Americas before Columbus. Sorry
Which book is this segment from?
conquest and culture by thomas sowell
@@fallonstone408 thank you good sir 👊
I would love to know if Thomas Sowell has any thoughts about re Clovis
Sorry Pre-Clovis
@@RedQNZ he gets his information from written word. most of pre-clovis information is a educated guess. it would be wonderful if a written language existed from say 50,000 years ago would reveal. i imagine the thoughts of the first person to encounter a saber tooth tiger were WTF and his next were ' i'm dying.
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We are Indigenous after arriving in 1638 AD! What is amazing is being more Irish/ Scotia than the current lands of origin! 8500BC
I'd say another benefit for the Indians was for most to accept Jesus Christ and convert from some very evil pagan rituals and sacrifices in their ceremonies and lives.
Hilariously, this is precisely what a Mexican I spoke with said. "Yeah the Spanish forced Christianity on us, but we were committing mass human sacrifice."
Amen
nonsense
And replaced them with other Evil rituals and rules
@@khronostheavenger8923 As a Mexican with a Degree in Mesoamerican Studies and has read extensively on Mexican History, I wouldn’t say One is Better than the other, Because The Aztec Religion’s beliefs and ceremonies were Extremely Complex and are the Most Misunderstood, there’s still a Frightening amount we don’t know, as 99% of their written scripts were destroyed, but Aztec Mythology was a specific interpretation of Overall Mesoamerican Cosmology (a name I use to name all Mesoamerican religions that have a common core belief system) which is Not nearly as Violent, that means that Millions of people who believed in Mesoamerican Cosmology and didn’t practice the Aztec variety were still targeted by the church, So Most of Mesoamerica, it’s also more likely that more people were killed by the Spanish than the Aztecs ever sacrificed people, So Yes, Sacrifice was pretty Brutal (even tho Aztec Religion was Much More Complex than that, and most were voluntary, and would compare it to Roman Crucifixion of prisoners, but I do agree it was Abhorrent) but the Spanish were also pretty brutal in their means of Conversion, not to mention There are also many ways Catholicism Negativity Affected the Native Population, So I don’t think either was Good, because Sacrifice Was Brutal but so were the things the Spanish did to brainwash the native, and I don’t believe All of Mesoamerican Cosmology should have been destroyed like that, nor the entire culture overall.
I can't stand it when they use European as a whole.
It's a continent!!!!
Modern Warrior from Tiktok should watch this video and then stfu about "Muh colonizer"
The video title is misleading : TS hardly speaks about what Americas looked like before the European arrived, except from some discuted numbers of population pre-conquest. I like how he explains how the indigenous peoples suffered near extinction and what we could call "great replacement" by the newcomers.
which was the near extinction? and the truth is people kept on replacing each other and it is a fact that a lot of people originated from other lands and migrated or even colonized other lands just like the so called native Americans. They originated from other lands and settled the Americas.
What book is this from?
"Conquest and Culture".
So far, Sowell...
The Anglo Saxons left a written record ,a lot has been lost. Look at the Anglo-Saxon cHronicle, Beowulf and some very nice poetry.
If you want to have a much better understanding of the Americas in the distant past, I invite you to read The Book of Mormon: Another Testament of Jesus Christ. What we call the New World is actually the Old World. Civilization started here.
Why does Thomas Sowell NEVER discuss the Black Boule? 😒 Sigma Pi Phi
Argentina should have been the societal and economic equivalent of Australia, Canada or even the US given its European population, size and natural resources. The Spanish colonial legacy, in contrast to the British one, had a terrible impact on the states that emerged from it.
That's a comfortable anglo myth. But not true. Argentina was developed and one of the richest countries in the world in 1900's, then they applied socialist ideals imported from european migrants, and have been declining since.
@@celdur4635 they are very capable, but political instability, corruption and authoritarianism has been their problem over the years. Even during their good times they were governed by military governments that had a coup every 15 yrs.
@@celdur4635 That’s strange, because Argentina is Notorious for historically having Very Right-Wing Dictatorships
What does having a European population have anything to Dow its economic growth?
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Look up the history of Argentina since 1865 to 1920 or so. They reached #1 spot on GDP per cápita a couple of times and were, for decades, on the top 10.
As the great philosopher once said "SO WHAT"
Never seen horses before isn’t correct. There were horses in the Western Hemisphere but died out thousands of years before.
The Indians that met Columbus weren’t thousands of years old. It’s safe to say they’d never seen horses. It’s not like they were like, “I remember those things!”
And they were eating them not riding them
@@zenolachance1181 I believe horses were extinct in the Americas well before any human could have seen them even if you accept(as I kind of do) a pre-Clovis hypothesis.
@@missano3856 even with a pre-clovis hypothesis they would have been hard-pressed to have seen horses and even if they did they were only eating them
@@zenolachance1181 That's what I mean horses were likely extinct before people arrived in America, and even had there been a horse species there is no guarantee it would have been domesticable, zebras aren't.
So is he saying there weren't black moorish indians already on the east coast of America before Columbus?
I don't think he covered that. On the whole, I reckon he thinks Blacks are not indigenous to the Americas.
@@barryon8706 Africans aren't indigenous to the Americas.
@@thehumanoddity I agree. But there's a fringe theory that Blacks were already here when Europeans landed, and that it's all been covered up. I think TravisMcClung is referencing that.
@@barryon8706 I can't find any claims of their being black Indians preceding Colombus's voyage, though there are theories surrounding the origin of the Olmec culture. It is certainly plausible that ancient African navigators visited the Americas and influenced some of the cultures there, but having a full-blown colonization of a portion of eastern America seems unlikely.
@@thehumanoddity Like I said, it's a fringe theory. I've only seen it in TH-cam comment threads.
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Smallpox I heard actually mutated in Europe but came from north America
lol
thankfully smallpox is a very stable virus. that is why the vaccine worked so well on it