Plugin hybrid is a perfect drivetrain for us. It fits our driving patterns/use-case perfectly. Basically daily commute throughout the year and when you want to go on a road trip you're set. Don't need to worry about the downsides of EVs. Just fill it up with diesel and go. We're waiting on the 2024 E class hybrid.
You have a diesel hybrid? which one? What country do you live in. I think there may be ONLY one or two diesel hybrids in the US, maybe zero. I could be wrong.
@@duneattack No we don't unfortunately. We're in Texas although have just returned from 4 years in Berlin (work related). You can buy whatever you want in Germany pretty much. Every engine type is offered there including a diesel plug in hybrid. We'll see if Mercedes brings diesel back to the US. I doubt it. Either way I think we're going to go with the 2024 E class. We're due for an upgrade on one of our cars and this could fit the bill very nicely. I prefer BMWs myself for the way they drive but sadly I think we've entered a period in motoring where something like a BMW can't really be used to its strengths. Most of the driving in Austin is traffic heavy and whenever you want to go anywhere (Houston, San Antonio, New Orleans you name it) you're basically on the i10 or i35. Which is pretty much traffic all the way. A car like the E class makes more sense here than something like a BMW. We're almost at a point where you just want to push the button and the car autonomously manage traffic for you. Which in Texas is mostly highways.
I prefer a model Y, It has much more e-range of course, it’s much faster, has more cargo space and infinitely less points of failure. For the rare road-trips, I can rent a full size SUV and still save tons of money. Anyway, for most road trips, I fly first. Plug-in hybrids make no sense to me, no sense at all.
I like that this car gives you several options as to how you want to drive! I think that’s something a lot of manufacturers are taking away. If it weren’t for the reliability issues this would be super practical.
I have a Wrangler 4xe and would LOVE a fast charging option. We use a level 2 at home and can top up usually in under an hour. But a quick 5 minute charge would be awesome on the go. I prefer charging over gas whenever available.
To Charge the battery via gas is the most inefficient way to sie an Plug in Hybrid. These Charge functions are no more avaible at Mercedes BMW Audi VW.
@@visionmodernclassics3062 Agreed! It is also great to use nice quiet electric mode when you want it, like on trails in remote areas where the serenity is very pleasant and satisfying. Sublime, really.
I'd be worried about battery degradation with lots of fast charging. Some fast charging is okay, but my understanding is that it eventually has an impact on the battery. Anecdotally, my brother has a friend with a Tesla that does a lot of long distance driving for work and so has to use fast charging. He's seen a drastic reduction of range. I have a Prime and I only use the gas to charge the battery for special cases as the gas efficiency of the car goes way down while charging so it's not worthwhile if the goal is to use less gas. I'm not sure about the Wrangler but I'm guessing it's also inefficient. But it depends on what your goal is.
@@Molishious The Wrangler doesn't have DC Fast charging. It's "fast charging" is just a standard level 2 charger. I said fast charging, but by that I mean the maximum the Wrangler can do. Since it has a much smaller battery (good for ~21 miles) it goes to 100% in two hours. So I could expect 25%-40% per half hour. (The lower the battery the faster it charges - that last 20% takes the longest). Getting ~25-40% in a half hour would be great and most likely in the range of the time I spend shopping anyway.
I’ve got a 2021 GLE 350 de (diesel plug in hybrid) which is for the European market…50miles per gallon and up to 60 miles electric range….perfect for the UK where fuel is about $8 per gallon! Would highly recommend…
As an X5 PHEV owner, the only two things I like about the GLE PHEV is, the DC fast charging, surely helps in long trips to top up the EV range than hauling around a dead battery! Second for sure is the rear seat leg room. The X5 leg room while sufficient is barely bigger than a midsize CUV. Sedans like Accord and Camry have way more rear leg room. Not sure how BMW screwed up the rear leg room. But in all other aspects, the BMW outclasses this Benz easily.
I have the European 2022 GLE350de and I love this car. In electric mode I can drive 55 miles in winter and 60 miles in summer. So I drove more than 70% electric since 2022.
It reflects the reality of the current public charging infrastructure. And 40’ish mpg is kind of amazing for such a large luxury vehicle. If this was sitting on the showroom I might have chosen it over an EQE SUV.
@@adamaufdencamp5080besides, here in the US, most people do 90% of their driving within 50 miles. A PHEV that gets close to that on EV mode is the perfect solution to address emissions, avoid the full reliance on infrastructure and it doesn’t require lugging around a 90kW battery when 25-30 will do (again) for 90% of miles driven
Please include towing specs in your reviews. PHEVs make excellent tow rigs as they regenerate batteries on downhills, acting like a brake, and the electric boost on up hill sections is invaluable.
I could care less about some ev owners getting pissed off. If I'm legally allowed to charge at DC fast charging I'm going to charge it. I would actually be pissed on EV owners taking a DC charger when I need it in my GLE.
@@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw auto climate doesn't work for everybody... can you guess why? Or are you unable to think outside of your blinders? (hint: why do you think automakers allow you to set your temperature and your fan speed outside of automatic? The brain-dead designers at places like BMW, Tesla, and Volvo can't put two-and-two together, and throw it all in a touchscreen, which is akin to asking people to use handle their cellphones while driving.)
@@pete64041 yes, it surely does! Well-placed buttons can in fact be operated without even looking at them, after you've owned a car, by rote memory... Touch screens cause you to have to look at them for extended periods of time, especially when sub-menus or sub-sub-menus are involved, and if the icons are small, it can be much easier to "miss" typing them with typical bumpy roads while driving...
Having DC fsat charging is really nice on a long trip. You can pack in a few miles before you can get to your destination and use less gas overall. You have to eat sometime. My own PHEV only has a 9kwh battery but will only AC charge at 3.3kw peak. It would be really nice if it could at least use a 7.6kw AC charger to 80% and then drop to half that for the last 20. Then when you get home from work I could get most of my range back before getting the evening running done.
One of the most underrated design features of all Mercedes’ vehicles is the gear selector on right side of the column. It’s super intuitive and a very clean design. Avoids the unnecessary shift lever on the floor that many SUVs suffer from recently.
If you have a 2nd car that has the turn signal lever or windshield wiper control on the right hand stalk it's not so good. Mercedes pioneered the stalk shifter which went against the entire industry standard. Not a fan. 😊
The 2024 Cayenne does the gear-mode (P/N/D/R) switch way better … check it out … and also the drive-mode “switch” is a convenient dial on the steering wheel
The gear selector on the right stalk for my situation is terrible. I have 3 cars. Each car uses the right stalk fit a different function. Gear selector, turn signal, wipers. You can imagine swapping between cars how ridiculous is. I flip on the wipers when I think I'm selecting drive or I flop for a turn signal only to discover I attempted to select reverse while driving. I would appreciate some standardization. Gear selector on the center console or steering wheel or center display, right stalk wipers, left stalk turn signals. 😁
We charge our plugin Hybrid away from the home pretty frequently. Journey to local city on electric, charge up there and then electric back. 60 Mile roundtrip.
Tommy - what about the off road mode! Is it any good? Presume AWD and no locking diffs, e or otherwise... but with braked AWD even with open diffs.. usable for basic offroad with some decent wheels and tyres?
Thank you for the euro suspension comparison, hushing up those Uk commentors that don’t understand that we DO NOT get the same shock tuning as Europe, some might say RIP OFF, but Americans say COMFORT
(4:35) I would wanna DC-fast-charge this on road trips (only), because it’s good to drive in EV mode whenever going < 40 mph (i.e., in stop-and-go traffic), because the 4-cylinder sucks in stop-and-go traffic … and this vehicle evidently cannot charge off the ICE like most other PHEVs can
So many people want to declare PHEV's superior to full EV's, or traditional hybrids, or ICE (or vice-versa). It's totally dependent on how you mostly use your car. It's great not to have rage anxiety with a PHEV, but if you do a lot of driving with a depleted battery, you get so-so mileage, and sluggish acceleration compared to an EV or the ICE version (which usually have larger engines). However, if you routinely use your car for less than 20-30 miles - which many people do for their daily driver - I can see it making perfect sense.
If you drive with a depleted battery, it will act like a normal hybrid, recharging on deceleration / braking, and using what it has to start back up from red lights / etc... Which actually results in great mileage.
@@MrTresto That is not what the professionals who test PHEV's say. On a depleted battery, the mileage is sometimes less than the Gas versions. A "normal" hybrid has very different design and performance parameters than a PHEV.
@@scooter5940😂 listen to the owners who have far more first hand experience than the reviewers who spend under an hour to do their thing. When the battery is depleted, it gains back couple of miles range within few miles of driving on gas, it then uses it for start stops, crawl etc which is very useful. At least in my X5 it’s extremely seamless.
Great review! Don't sweat the full EV attitudes as they don't usually mind plugging their huge battery cars into a slow level 2 charger at the malls when that's really meant for PHEVs. 😂 I like the fast charging option and 50-60 miles of range is great for a huge suv like this. While you're driving, the car adds miles to the range so I can see you getting more like 80+ miles on a charge which would help with MPG big time!! thx
People always ask for more range in PHEVs,meh 30-40ish miles is fine, give me POWER. Real electric motors. I want the real advantages of a BEV on all my around town trips, which is being fast, fun, and full of effortless torque... With the capability and range of gas when I'm not running errands around town. This sounds like it ticks a lot of boxes. I can see if we were a little richer having my wife take the kids to all their school and stuff in this and still being able to do weekend trips without a second thought.
DC fast charging on PHEVs I'd say is a gimmick. what matters is their max lvl 2 charge speed, which tends to get neglected. my V60 T8 maxes out at 3.6kw, which is kinda weak. I'm running the car solely off lvl 1 charging for a year, just to test if we really need a lvl 2, but honestly, the incentive to go from ~12hr charge time to ~5 hrs with lvl 2 ain't there. it's an overnight charge either way.
@@713vinh in 25 minutes you could almost drive the range you'd gain on a lvl 3 charger with a GLE 450e. to the kind of person that blows +80k USD on a luxury SUV, it'd be extremely rare that 25 mins is worth more than a few bucks of premium gas.
DC charging capability partially makes up for not being able to charge the traction batter off the ICE (which most PHEV models can do) - useful for road trips, where you don’t want the ICE on in stop-and-go traffic
@@cbatiau2528 the original comment was about DC "fast" charging tho? lvl 3, not lvl 1 or 2 charging? the 450e's layout is pretty traditional as far as hybrid layouts go, it should charge off of ICE just fine while underway. a well programmed PHEV also wouldn't let the battery deplete to the point that it couldn't crawl in a traffic jam pure electric at 0% battery. and if traffic's REALLY that heavy... are you really gonna pull off the road and into a fast charger, and add MORE time to your trip? that's not a luxury car experience. Lastly. automakers tend to engineer PHEVs as ICE cars first, EVs second. I see no indication anywhere that the GLE 450e has a heat pump. if ur stuck in traffic, it's cold out, ur at 0% battery, and u got another hour of driving to go, you're turning on the ICE engine for cabin heat alone. no one spends GLE money to sit in a cold (or hot) car.
Had this been the “EV”technology most adopted, Everyone would have been happy and this technology would have been accepted, the power grid could handle this and gas consumption would have been reduced by 50%. Instead, massive push back on EV and minimal reduction in gas consumption. Love my PHEV! I have reduced my gasoline consumption by 80%!
Were those the same EA charging stations you and your dad have been to next to your work out gym that you 2 have indicated are not reliable on many occasions?
The problem with most PHEV is that when you do need to DC fast charge it the rate is ridiculously slow and not worth doing. May as well only charge at home or possibly a free/slow charger when needed.
Because a plug-in hybrid is meant to plug in at home daily and not fast charge. That's why it has a gas engine for long distance travel! If you want to travel long distance in electric then you buy an EV. DUH.
It's like saying the problem with a Miata is that it only seats two. Well you don't buy it to move a lot of people. The point of the PHEV is that you don't need to fast charge, so it's not a problem, it's a benefit. They are designed for using electric on shorter trips and then you use gas for longer trips and forget about charging. That said, I'd like a faster onboard charger on my Prime for the few occasions that I want to charge at home for a trip later in the day. But this is not a practical wish as to take advantage of the faster charing I'd need a level two charger which would cost way more than any gas I'm burning on the rare occasion that I could have charged up.
@@MrRaitzi Because Plug-In hybrids uses a cell chemistry which is focused on high power instead of energy density DC charging does not effect the degration too much. What is more as Customer you cannot Charge to 100 % real SoC there is always a buffer considered which cannot be used.
Big fan of PHEV here, I’m currently driving a Kia Sorento PHEV Prestige top trim here in the US, love to have more luxurious driving experience in PHEVs so this Mercedes and the upgraded X5 PHEV with extended EV range are definitely getting my attention. Love to see videos how these two PHEV cars compare
This type of plug-in hybrid powertrain is, in my opinion, inferior to that used in the Chevy Volt because the ICE is forced to do a cold start activation whenever higher levels of power is required. This bad for emissions and bad for the engine. In contrast the Volt could be operated over its entire performance envelop in all electric mode. In regards to DC fast charging, why would you need it? When the Volt runs down to about 20% state of charge the ICE is activated to operate a 55 kw generator. However, instead of blindly charging the battery to it is full, the ICE is operated to just keep the battery at the minimum state of charge, in other words just run the ICE/generator enough to meet the average power requirement. Where I live the public DC fast chargers cost around $0.43/kwh. So if you get 3 miles/kWh the electricity cost you a little over $0.14/mile. When operated in hybrid mode the Volt gets about 40 mpg. So if gas costs $5/gallon, it costs $0.125/mile. As such why waste time and money at a DC fast charger if you are driving a plug-in hybrid? It is my hope that GM brings the Voltec powertrain back, but this time using Ultium batteries. GM says the batteries in the Volt cost $1k/kwh, or $16k for the battery cells. GM says the Ultium cells can be produced for 1/10 the cost. I think a modern version of the Volt with 2 module, 17.6 kWh Ultium battery coupled with a small turbo 3 cylinder ICE and having over 50 miles all electric range could be produced at a price that would be attractive to a lot of folks.
"inferior" i think is unfair. the europeans are at the mercy of the clientelle they chose to serve. for the size, weight, and cost of a car like this, they need power figures to match. the volt was built for efficiency and economy, not luxury and the autobahn. a volt requiring 91 octane would be a nonstarter. that's par for the course with a merc. the GLE 450e might even be considered conservative, vs say, an XC60 T8, which has had north of 400hp for half a decade now. Not to say that a modernised volt-esque drivetrain couldn't put out and sustain 350+hp... but i gotta imagine there's reasons other than patent law that the europeans haven't tried it since the BMW i3.
I bought GLE450e, I have at home Level 2 charger hard wired and configured to deliver up to 11kW. GLE 450e I have seems to max out at 7.6kW draw (vs 9.6kW spec). Anyone else has same problem? I have not called dealership yet.
The battery warranty isn’t even close to the warranty that Toyota gives you, you don’t k ow what the life of the battery what technology chemistry does it use or what the replacement cost for the batteries is going to be
Wow! A top of the line PHEV with DC fast charging? On my monthly commute in my 2017 PHEV, the Benz would save me at least 2 hours in charging time. But what is the mpg and the mpge? In real world driving I’m at 48 mpg on that trip. (With useful EV miles at 103 and 2 recharges L2) If the Benz only gives 26 mpg, then no. Not worth it especially at $80k
Great review. Very impressive battery only mileage. It’s starting at $70,000. I agree, the GLE has a very comfortable ride. Snow decision, EQE SUV 4MATIC, GLE Plug-in or hope for MB to bring a 2024 GLC Plug-in for the US. 🤔
Would take a plug in GLE over a plug in GLC (the price difference in mind). GLE’s bigger, but not too big, and gives a higher driving position and has a wide cabin, making the ride enjoyable. Also the GLE has a bigger boot and the suspension is very smooth. I feel like the hybrid gle is a great choice, especially for an American, as it offers a good power and smoothness. Also for some reason the cabin smells nice and will do so for years on the gle (idk about the glc)
@@matyi63 thank you. I agree with getting at least 40 on electric, the plug-in GLE will be very smooth. I had a 99 ML320 for 18 years. Bought it new. I still miss daily smooth drive and long trips comfort.
@@CookandBakewithSamer Well I can assure you the GLE Hybrid is very smooth. I don't about the EQE tho, but knowing Mercedes I"m its a smooth and confortable car too
I have a Volvo V60 T8 Recharge PHEV. It's incredible and is better than this Mercedes in nearly every spec and performance. 😉 The V60 has 460hp (0-100kph 4.6) with 90km electric range and 147hp electric motor. It well outperforms the Mercedes. The integration of the gas/electric power train is seamless. Quality is outstanding. A fantastic car! 😊 My second car is a dual motor Tesla Model 3. I like the Volvo better! 👍😁
XC60 T8 ER here… the GLE 450e has 50% more EV range and has vastly superior instrument panel & infotainment screen, plus vast superiority in climate controls not being in the touchscreen … the Volvo has full-on one-pedal driving, better visibility, and better exterior appearance … Put the EV range of the 450e and the screens of the 450e in my XC60, and I’d be a happy camper
Is DC charging healthy? Debatable I guess but to answer the question around why? I would say it's a lot easier to find DC chargers over Level 2 J1772 and the time saved over 11kw charging would be beneficial for those who need more infrastructure. Rationale has been discussed many times but those who don't have a garage, those who perhaps do have a 40+ mile one way drive into work and would like to charge for 30 minutes to make it home on full EV, community shared services such as parking in apartments and condos, etc. I think it's a nice option to have if there isn't too much cost added to the vehicle, not that we'd see the cost come out, a la lumbar removed from tesla passenger seats, recalling this tweet: “Moving lumbar was removed only in front passenger seat of 3/Y (obv not there in rear seats). Logs showed almost no usage. Not worth cost/mass for everyone when almost never used.”
It is not safe . I worked closely with lab that was leader in battery testing in my part of Europe. Fast charging of any kind destroys the battery faster. Over 200tkm battery will lose 20% more top range compared to slow charging at home. There is another reason than performance why Tesla promotes fast charging, they get people to buy new car faster when battery dies.
@@soaringeagle7571 That's what my wife said! 😳 We switched from a Mercedes C43 and losing the Mercedes star for her was devastating! 😂 I thought I'd never own an "old man's car" but surprisingly it's really good. 😎
Apparently not (contrary to Toyota, Volvo, Porsche PHEVs), unfortunately … But that is partly made-up for via the DC fast charging that can be used on road trips to recharge the traction battery
How about the sacrifice of storage and luggage space for the extra batteries. Still this is a poor compromise. A purpose designed phev with bigger capacity batteries built into the chassis would be heaps better.
For a more attainable higher range PHEV with DC fast charging us plebs can look at the Mitsubishi Outlander. It unfortunately uses Chademo as its fast charge port though, which is a strange choice for the NA version.
So it's basically the drive-train of a Chevy Volt (from a decade ago) in a new SUV. This is a product that GM (if not run by imbeciles) could have released a decade ago.
@@kevinhickman50 The ELR sold poorly because it was just a 2-door Volt that was way more expensive but even less practical. Had GM put that great drivetrain into a larger 4-adult chassis people actually wanted, it would have been popular ... if properly marketed. GM poorly marketed it as "an extended range electric vehicle that can go up to 50 miles on a charge." Most people had no idea it could also run on gasoline. It should have been easy to sell .... just tell people, "It's a fast and fun EV for 50 miles, then it's a gasoline-hybrid (like a Prius) until you charge it again. You can charge it from any outlet, and that electricity is about 4X cheaper than gasoline per mile." I'm pretty convinced some at GM wanted the Volt/ELR to fail. That's why GM convinced most people they were EVs that only went 40 to 50 miles. Then later they killed it.
You could also say they are the worst of both worlds too. Small engine, dragging around a drive train you only use a little bit of the time, more expensive than their cost savings over time generally will pay for (except in a few cases or if you can make other people pay for a chunk). Personally I think hybrids are best for anyone who can not charge at home, PHEVs are best for most normal people that can at least charge at home regularly and EVs are just for enthusiasts and second vehicle commuter scenarios at this point. Things are rapidly changing through.
@@Snerdles we have several cars we use with Turo. At the end of the day, I love not putting gas in my electric cars that charge off mostly solar panels at home. On road trips I spend some time charging, but, I’m still not burning fossil fuels at the tail pipe, and I never stop for gas at home.
My Rav4 Prime is working out well. Most days I’m all electric. Good EV horsepower. Great Hybrid horsepower. Good efficiency in both modes. So far so good after 2 years. It’s fun to drive. 😊
@@SnerdlesI charge my PHEV at home from my full house solar system. 90km per day range more than meets my daily driving needs. The gas engine used only every few months for longish trips. Hauling around the "added" weight is meaningless as the charge from the sun is "free". The cost of the solar system covered by my house electric bill savings. My Volvo V60 has turned out to be one of the best cars I've owned and the PHEV aspect,,, for me,,, is the best of both worlds.
I think the dc fast charging is helpful if you at a mall and will be doing some shopping when you come back to the car you can keep using electric power only to go home.
Where I live if the charging is complete before you are done shopping many superchargers now charge idle time. Meaning you can just park there and return when you wish. It means you should stay in your car until charging is complete than repark and go into the mall. Not very convenient.
My Rav4 prime has as much power as I can possibly use. Leaves everyone behind at a stoplight without trying. It’s adequate on the highway, with no need to use gas. But for passing or longer trips the hybrid horsepower and range is great.
I have a Volvo V60 T8 Recharge PHEV AND a Tesla Model 3. The PHEV is more practical and versatile. (primarily due to an inadequate super charger network)
Likely. And you can see that the charge port is already improved over the EQE SUV. The ev has a fragile by comparison plastic piece that dangles. The snap cover is an improvement here. Also, the phone charge pad and side by side cupholder is also an improvement over the EVs. You reach down into a concealed area to charge your phone on the ‘23 EQE SUV. It’s hard to reach and easy to forget because you can’t see it.
This car is direct competition to lexus nx450h+, lexus nx 0-60 is 6.2, just little slower than this, but I would take NA 2.5 l inline 4 over this 2.0 turbo, plus much more reliable, but if you get the rav4 prime variant, that one is definitely as fast as this mercedes, with way less horsepower
I am sorry buy gasoline engines are never more efficient than electric motors. I stopped listening after you said this around 1-2 minutes in. Gas engines have an efficiency of around 25% while electric motors operate at >85% efficiency. Also, electric cars are not necessarily more efficient in city trafic than on highway roads. If the traffic in the city is inte ce the HVAC system will consume disproportionately more and therefore reduce efficiency. I suggest you study the first principles for both gas and electric propulsion so you can provide accurate advice.
Electric is more efficient at speeds < 40 mph… ICE is more efficient at high speeds… EVs with good regen are vastly superior to ICEVs in stop-and-go traffic
There is no way that you would have a financial pay off by having a plug in hybrid drivetrain because of the added upfront costs and long term liability of the added complexity.
Not true. My Volvo V60 after 70,000km has zero repair cost and has been dead reliable. I run 85% of my daily needs on the 90km electric range and charged from my full house solar system. Gas is only used on longish trips which is less than 15% of the overall mileage. Amazingly efficient and reliable car. Best I've owned out of 22 cars. My second car is a Tesla Model 3 dual motor. (The Volvo is the better car) 😁
I don’t like the idea of PHEVs blocking DCFC to charge at 50kw. it’s such a slap in the face to need just 15 min to recoup 40-50kwh to make it to the next charger and somebody has been on the charger 30 min to get 20kwh and they have a gas engine anyway.
@@chrisak49 it’s the same as someone driving in the left lane doing the speed limit or 5 under saying screw everyone I’m doing me. If people would be courteous and think about others everything would run smoother.
@@doublebackagain4311 by driving 40 miles at a time and spending 30 min plus charging? If the station is empty who cares, but when there is a full station EV drivers need to be thinking about not charging more than necessary and if you are local or a PHEV you should just come back later or charge at home.
@@spcneary 200+ mi range EV's take that long to charge. A ~40 mi range battery should take just a few min on a fast-charger? Just because person A has fewer groceries to check out than person B, should person A get out of the way & let person B go first?
As Tommy knows the best plugin ‘hybrid’ is a BEV with a range extender like the i3! This is getting close to the 2014 i3 with a 60 mile range, but it’s got a huge unnecessary gas engine and all that complexity. There’s no need for 400 mile battery packs, it’s just wasteful.
Ford's massive EV losses show that the main stream consumer isn't ready for full EV's. PHEV's should have been the intermediate step toward full EV adoption. They allow access to the massive gasoline infrastructure while the commercial EV charging infrastructure (currently a disaster) spins up. And, it makes no sense (or cents) to use a commercial charger for a PHEV. The battery is best charged at home and used for commuting. Use it as a regular hybrid when travelling distances.
Every EV manufacturer isn’t struggling because of EV adoption. It’s because they can’t manufacture them fast enough, because dealers marking up and because Tesla can do both better.
@@chrisak49 They're losing billions on EV's. Chevy massive price increase on the Blazer EV is evidence of it. Ford being unable to sell Mach-E's is evidence of it. Consumers don't want to spend 25% more for an EV. They will never make their money back over an ICE and they know it.
Plugin hybrid is a perfect drivetrain for us. It fits our driving patterns/use-case perfectly. Basically daily commute throughout the year and when you want to go on a road trip you're set. Don't need to worry about the downsides of EVs. Just fill it up with diesel and go. We're waiting on the 2024 E class hybrid.
You have a diesel hybrid? which one? What country do you live in. I think there may be ONLY one or two diesel hybrids in the US, maybe zero. I could be wrong.
@@duneattack No we don't unfortunately. We're in Texas although have just returned from 4 years in Berlin (work related). You can buy whatever you want in Germany pretty much. Every engine type is offered there including a diesel plug in hybrid. We'll see if Mercedes brings diesel back to the US. I doubt it. Either way I think we're going to go with the 2024 E class. We're due for an upgrade on one of our cars and this could fit the bill very nicely. I prefer BMWs myself for the way they drive but sadly I think we've entered a period in motoring where something like a BMW can't really be used to its strengths. Most of the driving in Austin is traffic heavy and whenever you want to go anywhere (Houston, San Antonio, New Orleans you name it) you're basically on the i10 or i35. Which is pretty much traffic all the way. A car like the E class makes more sense here than something like a BMW. We're almost at a point where you just want to push the button and the car autonomously manage traffic for you. Which in Texas is mostly highways.
I prefer a model Y, It has much more e-range of course, it’s much faster, has more cargo space and infinitely less points of failure. For the rare road-trips, I can rent a full size SUV and still save tons of money. Anyway, for most road trips, I fly first. Plug-in hybrids make no sense to me, no sense at all.
I like that this car gives you several options as to how you want to drive! I think that’s something a lot of manufacturers are taking away. If it weren’t for the reliability issues this would be super practical.
I have a Wrangler 4xe and would LOVE a fast charging option. We use a level 2 at home and can top up usually in under an hour. But a quick 5 minute charge would be awesome on the go. I prefer charging over gas whenever available.
PHEV with DC fast charge is very cool and would be useful to us, too. Big battery, too.
To Charge the battery via gas is the most inefficient way to sie an Plug in Hybrid. These Charge functions are no more avaible at Mercedes BMW Audi VW.
@@visionmodernclassics3062 Agreed! It is also great to use nice quiet electric mode when you want it, like on trails in remote areas where the serenity is very pleasant and satisfying. Sublime, really.
I'd be worried about battery degradation with lots of fast charging. Some fast charging is okay, but my understanding is that it eventually has an impact on the battery. Anecdotally, my brother has a friend with a Tesla that does a lot of long distance driving for work and so has to use fast charging. He's seen a drastic reduction of range. I have a Prime and I only use the gas to charge the battery for special cases as the gas efficiency of the car goes way down while charging so it's not worthwhile if the goal is to use less gas. I'm not sure about the Wrangler but I'm guessing it's also inefficient. But it depends on what your goal is.
@@Molishious The Wrangler doesn't have DC Fast charging. It's "fast charging" is just a standard level 2 charger. I said fast charging, but by that I mean the maximum the Wrangler can do. Since it has a much smaller battery (good for ~21 miles) it goes to 100% in two hours. So I could expect 25%-40% per half hour. (The lower the battery the faster it charges - that last 20% takes the longest). Getting ~25-40% in a half hour would be great and most likely in the range of the time I spend shopping anyway.
Plug ins are what should have been the natural progression from gas only to hybrid/electric. IMO
I’ve got a 2021 GLE 350 de (diesel plug in hybrid) which is for the European market…50miles per gallon and up to 60 miles electric range….perfect for the UK where fuel is about $8 per gallon! Would highly recommend…
You dont think the American plebs get actually efficient European stuff like that over here do you...
As an X5 PHEV owner, the only two things I like about the GLE PHEV is, the DC fast charging, surely helps in long trips to top up the EV range than hauling around a dead battery! Second for sure is the rear seat leg room. The X5 leg room while sufficient is barely bigger than a midsize CUV. Sedans like Accord and Camry have way more rear leg room. Not sure how BMW screwed up the rear leg room. But in all other aspects, the BMW outclasses this Benz easily.
I have the European 2022 GLE350de and I love this car. In electric mode I can drive 55 miles in winter and 60 miles in summer. So I drove more than 70% electric since 2022.
PHEV the way to go currently I think
It reflects the reality of the current public charging infrastructure. And 40’ish mpg is kind of amazing for such a large luxury vehicle. If this was sitting on the showroom I might have chosen it over an EQE SUV.
@@adamaufdencamp5080besides, here in the US, most people do 90% of their driving within 50 miles. A PHEV that gets close to that on EV mode is the perfect solution to address emissions, avoid the full reliance on infrastructure and it doesn’t require lugging around a 90kW battery when 25-30 will do (again) for 90% of miles driven
I'm a huge fan of PHEV especially if you can charge at home.
Totally agree. You get the benefits of an ev without the downsides. Only problem is the weight, but you can get over that
Plug in hybrids are awesome. Nice presentation. Many thanks.
Yes but not a 4 cylinder 💀
What is typically best for most people is the just let the car decide when to use gas and electricity and so just leave it in hybrid
Please include towing specs in your reviews. PHEVs make excellent tow rigs as they regenerate batteries on downhills, acting like a brake, and the electric boost on up hill sections is invaluable.
THIS..... yes please
I could care less about some ev owners getting pissed off. If I'm legally allowed to charge at DC fast charging I'm going to charge it. I would actually be pissed on EV owners taking a DC charger when I need it in my GLE.
Would love to see the comparison with the X5 50e
X5 has climate controls in the touchscreen
@@cbatiau2528and an auto climate, so you rarely if ever use it. But sure, let’s pretend it’s 1986
@@GeorgeOrwell-tp8dw auto climate doesn't work for everybody... can you guess why? Or are you unable to think outside of your blinders? (hint: why do you think automakers allow you to set your temperature and your fan speed outside of automatic? The brain-dead designers at places like BMW, Tesla, and Volvo can't put two-and-two together, and throw it all in a touchscreen, which is akin to asking people to use handle their cellphones while driving.)
@@cbatiau2528 Also, It doesn't take any longer to touch the screen vs a button...
@@pete64041 yes, it surely does! Well-placed buttons can in fact be operated without even looking at them, after you've owned a car, by rote memory... Touch screens cause you to have to look at them for extended periods of time, especially when sub-menus or sub-sub-menus are involved, and if the icons are small, it can be much easier to "miss" typing them with typical bumpy roads while driving...
Having DC fsat charging is really nice on a long trip. You can pack in a few miles before you can get to your destination and use less gas overall. You have to eat sometime.
My own PHEV only has a 9kwh battery but will only AC charge at 3.3kw peak. It would be really nice if it could at least use a 7.6kw AC charger to 80% and then drop to half that for the last 20. Then when you get home from work I could get most of my range back before getting the evening running done.
Still can't believe they didn't bring the GLC phev to the US, they only released it in Europe.
Tariffs,these are made in USA (hence they're unreliable)
One of the most underrated design features of all Mercedes’ vehicles is the gear selector on right side of the column. It’s super intuitive and a very clean design. Avoids the unnecessary shift lever on the floor that many SUVs suffer from recently.
If you have a 2nd car that has the turn signal lever or windshield wiper control on the right hand stalk it's not so good. Mercedes pioneered the stalk shifter which went against the entire industry standard. Not a fan. 😊
The 2024 Cayenne does the gear-mode (P/N/D/R) switch way better … check it out … and also the drive-mode “switch” is a convenient dial on the steering wheel
The gear selector on the right stalk for my situation is terrible. I have 3 cars. Each car uses the right stalk fit a different function. Gear selector, turn signal, wipers. You can imagine swapping between cars how ridiculous is. I flip on the wipers when I think I'm selecting drive or I flop for a turn signal only to discover I attempted to select reverse while driving. I would appreciate some standardization. Gear selector on the center console or steering wheel or center display, right stalk wipers, left stalk turn signals. 😁
We charge our plugin Hybrid away from the home pretty frequently. Journey to local city on electric, charge up there and then electric back. 60 Mile roundtrip.
Fast charge capability is very useful for long distance commuters, condo/apartment renters, and vacationers.
I am sold on EVs but, PHEVs help pave the way towards BEVs for folks who can’t conceive of owning an EV now.
Tommy - what about the off road mode! Is it any good? Presume AWD and no locking diffs, e or otherwise... but with braked AWD even with open diffs.. usable for basic offroad with some decent wheels and tyres?
What do you think would be the best mode to drive on Long distance trips to get the max fuel efficiency
Love this car and will get one in the Citrus Silver.
Thank you for the euro suspension comparison, hushing up those Uk commentors that don’t understand that we DO NOT get the same shock tuning as Europe, some might say RIP OFF, but Americans say COMFORT
(4:35) I would wanna DC-fast-charge this on road trips (only), because it’s good to drive in EV mode whenever going < 40 mph (i.e., in stop-and-go traffic), because the 4-cylinder sucks in stop-and-go traffic … and this vehicle evidently cannot charge off the ICE like most other PHEVs can
So many people want to declare PHEV's superior to full EV's, or traditional hybrids, or ICE (or vice-versa). It's totally dependent on how you mostly use your car. It's great not to have rage anxiety with a PHEV, but if you do a lot of driving with a depleted battery, you get so-so mileage, and sluggish acceleration compared to an EV or the ICE version (which usually have larger engines). However, if you routinely use your car for less than 20-30 miles - which many people do for their daily driver - I can see it making perfect sense.
If you drive with a depleted battery, it will act like a normal hybrid, recharging on deceleration / braking, and using what it has to start back up from red lights / etc... Which actually results in great mileage.
@@MrTresto That is not what the professionals who test PHEV's say. On a depleted battery, the mileage is sometimes less than the Gas versions. A "normal" hybrid has very different design and performance parameters than a PHEV.
@@scooter5940😂 listen to the owners who have far more first hand experience than the reviewers who spend under an hour to do their thing. When the battery is depleted, it gains back couple of miles range within few miles of driving on gas, it then uses it for start stops, crawl etc which is very useful. At least in my X5 it’s extremely seamless.
Great review! Don't sweat the full EV attitudes as they don't usually mind plugging their huge battery cars into a slow level 2 charger at the malls when that's really meant for PHEVs. 😂 I like the fast charging option and 50-60 miles of range is great for a huge suv like this. While you're driving, the car adds miles to the range so I can see you getting more like 80+ miles on a charge which would help with MPG big time!! thx
I really want a plug-in hybrid midsized truck
You will get one from Ford and Toyota within the next 2 years!
@brunoheggli2888 how do you know this?
People always ask for more range in PHEVs,meh 30-40ish miles is fine, give me POWER. Real electric motors. I want the real advantages of a BEV on all my around town trips, which is being fast, fun, and full of effortless torque... With the capability and range of gas when I'm not running errands around town. This sounds like it ticks a lot of boxes. I can see if we were a little richer having my wife take the kids to all their school and stuff in this and still being able to do weekend trips without a second thought.
DC fast charging on PHEVs I'd say is a gimmick. what matters is their max lvl 2 charge speed, which tends to get neglected. my V60 T8 maxes out at 3.6kw, which is kinda weak. I'm running the car solely off lvl 1 charging for a year, just to test if we really need a lvl 2, but honestly, the incentive to go from ~12hr charge time to ~5 hrs with lvl 2 ain't there. it's an overnight charge either way.
Level 3 charging is only 25 minutes!
@@713vinh in 25 minutes you could almost drive the range you'd gain on a lvl 3 charger with a GLE 450e. to the kind of person that blows +80k USD on a luxury SUV, it'd be extremely rare that 25 mins is worth more than a few bucks of premium gas.
DC charging capability partially makes up for not being able to charge the traction batter off the ICE (which most PHEV models can do) - useful for road trips, where you don’t want the ICE on in stop-and-go traffic
@@cbatiau2528 the original comment was about DC "fast" charging tho? lvl 3, not lvl 1 or 2 charging? the 450e's layout is pretty traditional as far as hybrid layouts go, it should charge off of ICE just fine while underway. a well programmed PHEV also wouldn't let the battery deplete to the point that it couldn't crawl in a traffic jam pure electric at 0% battery. and if traffic's REALLY that heavy... are you really gonna pull off the road and into a fast charger, and add MORE time to your trip? that's not a luxury car experience.
Lastly. automakers tend to engineer PHEVs as ICE cars first, EVs second. I see no indication anywhere that the GLE 450e has a heat pump. if ur stuck in traffic, it's cold out, ur at 0% battery, and u got another hour of driving to go, you're turning on the ICE engine for cabin heat alone. no one spends GLE money to sit in a cold (or hot) car.
Had this been the “EV”technology most adopted, Everyone would have been happy and this technology would have been accepted, the power grid could handle this and gas consumption would have been reduced by 50%.
Instead, massive push back on EV and minimal reduction in gas consumption.
Love my PHEV! I have reduced my gasoline consumption by 80%!
Great job Tommy. Thank you
Were those the same EA charging stations you and your dad have been to next to your work out gym that you 2 have indicated are not reliable on many occasions?
The problem with most PHEV is that when you do need to DC fast charge it the rate is ridiculously slow and not worth doing. May as well only charge at home or possibly a free/slow charger when needed.
Because a plug-in hybrid is meant to plug in at home daily and not fast charge. That's why it has a gas engine for long distance travel! If you want to travel long distance in electric then you buy an EV. DUH.
It's like saying the problem with a Miata is that it only seats two. Well you don't buy it to move a lot of people. The point of the PHEV is that you don't need to fast charge, so it's not a problem, it's a benefit. They are designed for using electric on shorter trips and then you use gas for longer trips and forget about charging. That said, I'd like a faster onboard charger on my Prime for the few occasions that I want to charge at home for a trip later in the day. But this is not a practical wish as to take advantage of the faster charing I'd need a level two charger which would cost way more than any gas I'm burning on the rare occasion that I could have charged up.
Fast charging rate is rediclous slow?
The GLE has a 60 kw flat Charging curve in 30 min the battery is full again
You should not fast charge hybrids. No need and unnecessary wear on battery.
@@MrRaitzi Because Plug-In hybrids uses a cell chemistry which is focused on high power instead of energy density DC charging does not effect the degration too much. What is more as Customer you cannot Charge to 100 % real SoC there is always a buffer considered which cannot be used.
I would buy this but prices start at 95k€ in Finland. That is just completely nuts to me.
when car makers figure out how to copy the Prius power as they drive i'll consider one, until that what's they point ?
Big fan of PHEV here, I’m currently driving a Kia Sorento PHEV Prestige top trim here in the US, love to have more luxurious driving experience in PHEVs so this Mercedes and the upgraded X5 PHEV with extended EV range are definitely getting my attention. Love to see videos how these two PHEV cars compare
What's the point if it only gets 40 miles on a charge when full electrics get 350 like gas tanks
here's my play on your title: "I'm Usually Not a Fan of Mercedes-Benz... Here's Why the 2024 Mercedes GLE 450e Changed My Mind!" 🙂
Great review and proper real life usefulness, as usual 👍🏾.
This type of plug-in hybrid powertrain is, in my opinion, inferior to that used in the Chevy Volt because the ICE is forced to do a cold start activation whenever higher levels of power is required. This bad for emissions and bad for the engine. In contrast the Volt could be operated over its entire performance envelop in all electric mode. In regards to DC fast charging, why would you need it? When the Volt runs down to about 20% state of charge the ICE is activated to operate a 55 kw generator. However, instead of blindly charging the battery to it is full, the ICE is operated to just keep the battery at the minimum state of charge, in other words just run the ICE/generator enough to meet the average power requirement. Where I live the public DC fast chargers cost around $0.43/kwh. So if you get 3 miles/kWh the electricity cost you a little over $0.14/mile. When operated in hybrid mode the Volt gets about 40 mpg. So if gas costs $5/gallon, it costs $0.125/mile. As such why waste time and money at a DC fast charger if you are driving a plug-in hybrid?
It is my hope that GM brings the Voltec powertrain back, but this time using Ultium batteries. GM says the batteries in the Volt cost $1k/kwh, or $16k for the battery cells. GM says the Ultium cells can be produced for 1/10 the cost. I think a modern version of the Volt with 2 module, 17.6 kWh Ultium battery coupled with a small turbo 3 cylinder ICE and having over 50 miles all electric range could be produced at a price that would be attractive to a lot of folks.
"inferior" i think is unfair. the europeans are at the mercy of the clientelle they chose to serve. for the size, weight, and cost of a car like this, they need power figures to match. the volt was built for efficiency and economy, not luxury and the autobahn. a volt requiring 91 octane would be a nonstarter. that's par for the course with a merc. the GLE 450e might even be considered conservative, vs say, an XC60 T8, which has had north of 400hp for half a decade now.
Not to say that a modernised volt-esque drivetrain couldn't put out and sustain 350+hp... but i gotta imagine there's reasons other than patent law that the europeans haven't tried it since the BMW i3.
Nice material and information. Thanks.
Amazing review! Love this car!
Can you turn off the center screen and still have things running in the background? Nighttime glare is a painful experience for many of us.
Do the engine run with batt at 100% when the heater turns on?
I bought GLE450e, I have at home Level 2 charger hard wired and configured to deliver up to 11kW. GLE 450e I have seems to max out at 7.6kW draw (vs 9.6kW spec). Anyone else has same problem? I have not called dealership yet.
I have the X50e and it maxes out around 7. Why do you need more than that? It gives me a 50 mile range in about 2 hours of charging
@@pete64041I paid for 9.6kw charger
Wish you showed the ENTIRE car from the side for a bit.
So true! Charger suck! It’s the worst part of having an EV. It so bad I will eventually get a PHEV.
The battery warranty isn’t even close to the warranty that Toyota gives you, you don’t k ow what the life of the battery what technology chemistry does it use or what the replacement cost for the batteries is going to be
Pure EV range is 38 miles according to Mercedes USA GLE450e Website
67 miles real-world city driving according to testing by Kyle Conner
Wow! A top of the line PHEV with DC fast charging? On my monthly commute in my 2017 PHEV, the Benz would save me at least 2 hours in charging time. But what is the mpg and the mpge? In real world driving I’m at 48 mpg on that trip. (With useful EV miles at 103 and 2 recharges L2) If the Benz only gives 26 mpg, then no. Not worth it especially at $80k
Great review. Very impressive battery only mileage. It’s starting at $70,000. I agree, the GLE has a very comfortable ride. Snow decision, EQE SUV 4MATIC, GLE Plug-in or hope for MB to bring a 2024 GLC Plug-in for the US. 🤔
Would take a plug in GLE over a plug in GLC (the price difference in mind). GLE’s bigger, but not too big, and gives a higher driving position and has a wide cabin, making the ride enjoyable. Also the GLE has a bigger boot and the suspension is very smooth. I feel like the hybrid gle is a great choice, especially for an American, as it offers a good power and smoothness. Also for some reason the cabin smells nice and will do so for years on the gle (idk about the glc)
The EQE is certainly a good option too if it suits your lifestyle.
@@matyi63 thank you. I agree with getting at least 40 on electric, the plug-in GLE will be very smooth. I had a 99 ML320 for 18 years. Bought it new. I still miss daily smooth drive and long trips comfort.
@@matyi63 the EQE is very comfy too. So, down to which one. Wifey things the EQE will make us look younger 😂😂😂
@@CookandBakewithSamer Well I can assure you the GLE Hybrid is very smooth. I don't about the EQE tho, but knowing Mercedes I"m its a smooth and confortable car too
I have a Volvo V60 T8 Recharge PHEV. It's incredible and is better than this Mercedes in nearly every spec and performance. 😉 The V60 has 460hp (0-100kph 4.6) with 90km electric range and 147hp electric motor. It well outperforms the Mercedes. The integration of the gas/electric power train is seamless. Quality is outstanding. A fantastic car! 😊 My second car is a dual motor Tesla Model 3. I like the Volvo better! 👍😁
XC60 T8 ER here… the GLE 450e has 50% more EV range and has vastly superior instrument panel & infotainment screen, plus vast superiority in climate controls not being in the touchscreen … the Volvo has full-on one-pedal driving, better visibility, and better exterior appearance … Put the EV range of the 450e and the screens of the 450e in my XC60, and I’d be a happy camper
Your charger only supply upto 50kWh, how you expect it is higher than that?
Ultra fast is 150, you’re reading ChadeMO side
This car is for sale in europe since late …2020 as a gle350e
I suggest the GLC 300e or GLC 400e. It's a great car.
Tommy!👍 Uses American term Regeneration over German term Recuperation.
Is DC charging healthy? Debatable I guess but to answer the question around why? I would say it's a lot easier to find DC chargers over Level 2 J1772 and the time saved over 11kw charging would be beneficial for those who need more infrastructure. Rationale has been discussed many times but those who don't have a garage, those who perhaps do have a 40+ mile one way drive into work and would like to charge for 30 minutes to make it home on full EV, community shared services such as parking in apartments and condos, etc. I think it's a nice option to have if there isn't too much cost added to the vehicle, not that we'd see the cost come out, a la lumbar removed from tesla passenger seats, recalling this tweet: “Moving lumbar was removed only in front passenger seat of 3/Y (obv not there in rear seats). Logs showed almost no usage. Not worth cost/mass for everyone when almost never used.”
It is not safe . I worked closely with lab that was leader in battery testing in my part of Europe. Fast charging of any kind destroys the battery faster. Over 200tkm battery will lose 20% more top range compared to slow charging at home. There is another reason than performance why Tesla promotes fast charging, they get people to buy new car faster when battery dies.
Can the gas engine recharge the battery when it’s drained out?
In the Volvo V60 yes.
@@sunrisejak2709 who cares about the Volvo! 😂
@@soaringeagle7571 That's what my wife said! 😳 We switched from a Mercedes C43 and losing the Mercedes star for her was devastating! 😂 I thought I'd never own an "old man's car" but surprisingly it's really good. 😎
Apparently not (contrary to Toyota, Volvo, Porsche PHEVs), unfortunately … But that is partly made-up for via the DC fast charging that can be used on road trips to recharge the traction battery
Would love to see the actual car
We need more of case he’s such a handsome guy
How about the sacrifice of storage and luggage space for the extra batteries. Still this is a poor compromise. A purpose designed phev with bigger capacity batteries built into the chassis would be heaps better.
Volvo puts the 18.8 kwh battery in the unused transmission tunnel. It's brilliant.
I’d gladly sacrifice even more cargo space for a 40-kWh battery!!!
2.0 turbo for how much ? Yikes. At least the X5 still gives you the 6 cylinder
I refuse to buy any electrified vehicles with 0-60 time over 4 seconds.
Haptics on a steering wheel is a deal breaker.
Disagree, the Germans brands make it a smooth experience. And if you really don’t like it you can turn it off
For a more attainable higher range PHEV with DC fast charging us plebs can look at the Mitsubishi Outlander. It unfortunately uses Chademo as its fast charge port though, which is a strange choice for the NA version.
So it's basically the drive-train of a Chevy Volt (from a decade ago) in a new SUV. This is a product that GM (if not run by imbeciles) could have released a decade ago.
Unfortunately chevy couldn't charge what MB can. They couldn't make money on this design.
@@kevinhickman50 GM could’ve put that drive train in their line of Cadillac SUVs. Or their trucks. Instead, they chose to kill it.
@@paulrybarczyk5013 fair enough, but the Cadillac ELR sold poorly.
@@kevinhickman50 The ELR sold poorly because it was just a 2-door Volt that was way more expensive but even less practical. Had GM put that great drivetrain into a larger 4-adult chassis people actually wanted, it would have been popular ... if properly marketed. GM poorly marketed it as "an extended range electric vehicle that can go up to 50 miles on a charge." Most people had no idea it could also run on gasoline. It should have been easy to sell .... just tell people, "It's a fast and fun EV for 50 miles, then it's a gasoline-hybrid (like a Prius) until you charge it again. You can charge it from any outlet, and that electricity is about 4X cheaper than gasoline per mile." I'm pretty convinced some at GM wanted the Volt/ELR to fail. That's why GM convinced most people they were EVs that only went 40 to 50 miles. Then later they killed it.
Why are you not a fan of PHEVs? Seems to me that they are the best of both worlds.
You could also say they are the worst of both worlds too. Small engine, dragging around a drive train you only use a little bit of the time, more expensive than their cost savings over time generally will pay for (except in a few cases or if you can make other people pay for a chunk).
Personally I think hybrids are best for anyone who can not charge at home, PHEVs are best for most normal people that can at least charge at home regularly and EVs are just for enthusiasts and second vehicle commuter scenarios at this point. Things are rapidly changing through.
@@Snerdles we have several cars we use with Turo. At the end of the day, I love not putting gas in my electric cars that charge off mostly solar panels at home. On road trips I spend some time charging, but, I’m still not burning fossil fuels at the tail pipe, and I never stop for gas at home.
My Rav4 Prime is working out well. Most days I’m all electric. Good EV horsepower. Great Hybrid horsepower. Good efficiency in both modes. So far so good after 2 years. It’s fun to drive. 😊
@@SnerdlesI charge my PHEV at home from my full house solar system. 90km per day range more than meets my daily driving needs. The gas engine used only every few months for longish trips. Hauling around the "added" weight is meaningless as the charge from the sun is "free". The cost of the solar system covered by my house electric bill savings. My Volvo V60 has turned out to be one of the best cars I've owned and the PHEV aspect,,, for me,,, is the best of both worlds.
Why is there so much background music during narration? Unnecessary and very difficult to understand while wearing headphones 😮
I think the dc fast charging is helpful if you at a mall and will be doing some shopping when you come back to the car you can keep using electric power only to go home.
Where I live if the charging is complete before you are done shopping many superchargers now charge idle time. Meaning you can just park there and return when you wish. It means you should stay in your car until charging is complete than repark and go into the mall. Not very convenient.
Malls typically have Level2, may be DCFC in California?
GLE FOR EVER
Im waiting for the GLC 400e Coupe! Thats the phev I want!!
hybrid =mix a horse and a donkey you'll get a poney or mule 😁🤪😜😂🤣
That would cost 11 bucks to go 40 miles at electrify America. The rate is .49 cents a kWh in my area.
SO if more range + fast-charge ability, then PHEV = OK. Else: BEV.
PHEV's are way better than full EV's. Great for city driving.
bev are literally the best of city driving.....
🤮🤮🤮
My Rav4 prime has as much power as I can possibly use. Leaves everyone behind at a stoplight without trying. It’s adequate on the highway, with no need to use gas. But for passing or longer trips the hybrid horsepower and range is great.
I have a Volvo V60 T8 Recharge PHEV AND a Tesla Model 3. The PHEV is more practical and versatile. (primarily due to an inadequate super charger network)
GLE 450e Plug in hybrid or BMW x5 Plug in hybrid
X5 if you like climate controls in a touchscreen instead of having physical buttons for that
@@cbatiau2528 And a 6 cylinder engine and full hands free self driving...0-60 in 4.4 seconds...
Guns n` Roses 🤘
switching from CCS1 to Tesla NACS connector in future?
Likely. And you can see that the charge port is already improved over the EQE SUV. The ev has a fragile by comparison plastic piece that dangles. The snap cover is an improvement here. Also, the phone charge pad and side by side cupholder is also an improvement over the EVs. You reach down into a concealed area to charge your phone on the ‘23 EQE SUV. It’s hard to reach and easy to forget because you can’t see it.
Hybrids are bs. They are extra complicated for repairs and just keep the same old businesses going like car dealerships.
This car is direct competition to lexus nx450h+, lexus nx 0-60 is 6.2, just little slower than this, but I would take NA 2.5 l inline 4 over this 2.0 turbo, plus much more reliable, but if you get the rav4 prime variant, that one is definitely as fast as this mercedes, with way less horsepower
You can compare mercedes with Toyota .
DC fast charge a 40mi battery😂
E um hibrido interessante com motor electrico com 100 klms de autonomia mais o tanque de 65 litros tera uma interessante autonomia....800 klms??
Amazing job job kase and tommy goat mode activated lol 😂
I am sorry buy gasoline engines are never more efficient than electric motors. I stopped listening after you said this around 1-2 minutes in. Gas engines have an efficiency of around 25% while electric motors operate at >85% efficiency. Also, electric cars are not necessarily more efficient in city trafic than on highway roads. If the traffic in the city is inte ce the HVAC system will consume disproportionately more and therefore reduce efficiency. I suggest you study the first principles for both gas and electric propulsion so you can provide accurate advice.
Electric is more efficient at speeds < 40 mph… ICE is more efficient at high speeds… EVs with good regen are vastly superior to ICEVs in stop-and-go traffic
There is no way that you would have a financial pay off by having a plug in hybrid drivetrain because of the added upfront costs and long term liability of the added complexity.
Not true. My Volvo V60 after 70,000km has zero repair cost and has been dead reliable. I run 85% of my daily needs on the 90km electric range and charged from my full house solar system. Gas is only used on longish trips which is less than 15% of the overall mileage. Amazingly efficient and reliable car. Best I've owned out of 22 cars. My second car is a Tesla Model 3 dual motor. (The Volvo is the better car) 😁
What'd you pay for the vehicle and what is the residual value? @@sunrisejak2709
I love the Mercedes rav4 +
I don’t like the idea of PHEVs blocking DCFC to charge at 50kw. it’s such a slap in the face to need just 15 min to recoup 40-50kwh to make it to the next charger and somebody has been on the charger 30 min to get 20kwh and they have a gas engine anyway.
Too bad. EV drivers arent entitled to any spot. If the car has a plug port and it’s charging they can use it.
If you are Truly trying to lower exhaust emissions, shouldn't you be HAPPY someone is using battery-only & not the ice engine?
@@chrisak49 it’s the same as someone driving in the left lane doing the speed limit or 5 under saying screw everyone I’m doing me. If people would be courteous and think about others everything would run smoother.
@@doublebackagain4311 by driving 40 miles at a time and spending 30 min plus charging? If the station is empty who cares, but when there is a full station EV drivers need to be thinking about not charging more than necessary and if you are local or a PHEV you should just come back later or charge at home.
@@spcneary 200+ mi range EV's take that long to charge. A ~40 mi range battery should take just a few min on a fast-charger?
Just because person A has fewer groceries to check out than person B, should person A get out of the way & let person B go first?
Not sure why anyone would risk buying this car from such an unreliable company, since 2005 they couldn't figure out normal cars let alone EVs
Another video of Hummer EV
As Tommy knows the best plugin ‘hybrid’ is a BEV with a range extender like the i3! This is getting close to the 2014 i3 with a 60 mile range, but it’s got a huge unnecessary gas engine and all that complexity. There’s no need for 400 mile battery packs, it’s just wasteful.
Ford's massive EV losses show that the main stream consumer isn't ready for full EV's. PHEV's should have been the intermediate step toward full EV adoption. They allow access to the massive gasoline infrastructure while the commercial EV charging infrastructure (currently a disaster) spins up.
And, it makes no sense (or cents) to use a commercial charger for a PHEV. The battery is best charged at home and used for commuting. Use it as a regular hybrid when travelling distances.
Every EV manufacturer isn’t struggling because of EV adoption. It’s because they can’t manufacture them fast enough, because dealers marking up and because Tesla can do both better.
@@chrisak49 They're losing billions on EV's. Chevy massive price increase on the Blazer EV is evidence of it. Ford being unable to sell Mach-E's is evidence of it.
Consumers don't want to spend 25% more for an EV. They will never make their money back over an ICE and they know it.
Horay MB finally created a car for EV hedger. Just in case is motto you can live by.😂
69500 per Mercedes website
80K for a small SUV is brutal.
It's a Mercedes
Y’all are completely delusional in the us how is it a small suv. And it’s 70 not 80
It's not small
As compared to what? It's nowhere the size of a Suburban. A Hummer would dwarf it.
German Cars the best👍
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Sorry but the quality of the video and cheesy background music are not up to your usual standards.
Please do something with your hair looks like you just crawled out of bed
no more gas cars on the EV channel plz, no matter how much money the oil/gas lobby pays you.
@@markmonroe7330 a car designed to burn gas is not an EV.
It’s an ev, just brings the power plant much closer than using transmission lines.
@@kman0074 You know that's BS.
So does the Chevy Volt qualify as a type of electric vehicle to you?
@@steinwaymodelb No, the volt was one of the best Hybrids ever made, arguably better engineered than Toyota's crap.
This is not an ev and should not be on the channel.