It's amazing these days how many professional singers have intonation problems. Goerke is usually flat above the staff and the ending here is ample proof.
Powerhouse. She's got it all, great instrument, skilled technique, a natural performer. I didn't say perfect but she's singing the aria I've wanted to sing since I was a teenager. I'm 83 and I'm a spinto so I cannot do justice to this fabulous aria. Perhaps in my next lifetime.
A SPINTO DISGUISED as a Dramatic Soprano. LISTEN to a GENUINE DRAMATIC SOPRANO, " BIRGIT NILSSON. " FOR SPLENDID VERSIONS OF THIS ARIA, LISTEN TO "EBE STIGNANI " and "ZARA DOLUKHANOVA"
I love Christine Goerke, and this is a tour de force of singing. The only thing missing here--say, as compared to the great mezzo Giulietta Simionato--is the pathos. Goerke is displaying her gifts, but Giulietta FEELS the disaster that Eboli has brought on herself and her beloved. Listen to Simionato's 1958 live performance (within the context of the whole opera) from Vienna, available on TH-cam. Even Callas could not top that. What I do hear here, however, is Goerke's (I hope, distant) future: she will be fantastic in the mezzo repertoire if she chooses to go there in later years, when she is finished with Brunnhilde. But she's already proved to be open to incredible growth as an artist.
I was about to say the same about lacking strong chest voice. I am looking for modern singers that actually have and use chest. Check out this is opera channel.
Some people really never have anything to say about anyone... Famous for being youtube trolls... This is great singing Don't send me a 1000words reply.. I won't read it.
Audrey Babcock You can find the same ‘experts and critics’ on many of the opera clips. I think some people just live to find mistakes in opera singers. That is, unless it’s Callas - she can sing with the most God-awful voice, and the fanboys will say it’s great art.
@@vitabella6481 you clearly aren't leading "the beautiful life" if you sling nasty comments like a troll on the internet without a face. Have an opinion but no need to be ugly, bella.
She sounds like a mezzo but she has no squillo in her voice. There is something flawd in her technique that is preventing her from having a ringing squillo sound.
BRAVO! Madame Goerke, I'm curious about your costume, is this the one that was auctioned years ago by the Carol BURNETT estate from her Bob Mackie collection? Carol wore it when she played Scarlett O'Hara on her way to visit Rhett Butler in jail to get $300 to pay for the taxes on the Tara plantation. Having nothing to wear, and wanting to look her best she stared at the green/black curtains in the ballroom, tore the velvet material down and had her "Mammy" make the dress.What happened to the curtain rod and why didn't you wear it? It would have been an even grander entrance! Just curious. As for the famous Aria, my sentimental side goes for that other GREEK.... TATIANA TROYANOS.
impressive! but there's no beauty in the voice, it's just big. Top notes have a wild ulgy vibrato which is a sign of to much pressure. And no, i'm not jealous, good singing makes me happy, but 'im not deaf like most people seem to be.inour days.
Yeah it is a difficult aria, of course. But as many singers of the past had shown: it is possible to sing it really well. With the good old technique. The modern technique kills big voices. The reason why we have no big voicrs left.
@@vineyardvillaalgarve7747I have heard about it. Could you describe what's the difference between those two techniques and why the modern one kills big voices, please?
And with technical ability are you speaking from? If you think she is flat, and she's not, then specify the pitches and the notes at the times, so we might evaluate your comment as a fact. Rather than a opinion.
I like her voice. It's just that everything is so loud and sometimes or many times she sohnds out of pitch. Anyway, I didn't like the aria because of that but indeed a very nice voice.
Many arias Verdi wrote are difficult to sing because they have a wide range (every soprano who ever sang Aida knows that) and force the singer to put the entire spectrum of emotions into a couple of minutes only. The tessitura for Eboli is tricky. And the two arias she has are so far apart from each other concerning temper, speed and expression that you better know something about psychology when you sing them ;-)
She *IS* terribly flat a lot of the time and +Altonahh10 that has nothing to do with Verdi, tricky tessitura or wide range - it is a technical flaw _she_ has.
Can you explain how she is out of pitch? Rather than just your opinion? I am always amused by these comments on pitch. I want the notes that should be sung properly and where she missed the mark. Otherwise, you're wrong, and your opinion is no better than mine.
such an ugly sound, wobbly and ingolato. And the Top??? different big vibratos on one tone? If I hear such singing called opera singing I understand very well why so many people dont like Opera. And by the way: the players in the opera orchestras usually HATE such singing.
How wrong you are! Look at the orchestra players applauding her at the end. They loved this performance--as do I. People who don't like opera generally don't like classical music. Usually they have not been exposed (at an early age) to the Western classical tradition (through piano lessons, for example).
@@jamesnickoloff6692 orchestra players are professionals, the clap for everybody when exposed. Talk to them behind the stage, and you will hear the truth. Are they exposed enough to classical music? Yes the audiences today are sadly used to all this crap. But if they would hear beside such singing real singing like the standards were 70 years ago, they would throw tomatoes on the stage on singers like sbpve. Screaming and wobbling does not mean dramatic. Listen to Traubel, Nilsson, Therborg, Varnay and and, and you will know what dramatic singing means! Many of the opera lovers dont go anymore to the opera theaters because they can not stand howling. I'm one of them.
the high Cb was good, but the voice is ugly and she just loud for no reason.. sounds like a owl-ish mezzo soprano and the vibrato is hooty sounding and disgusting
It is a good voice; however, this is a mezzo aria and she is supposedly a wagnerian. Listening to her soprano roles, including Puccini and Wagner, she has real problems with the top. So much chest, sounds like Horne or Bumbry and not a soprano.
It's amazing these days how many professional singers have intonation problems. Goerke is usually flat above the staff and the ending here is ample proof.
Just magnificent. Chillingly beautiful singing.
What a surprise. Did not know she sang this. Brava
A lovely human being as well as a consummate artist.
Powerhouse. She's got it all, great instrument, skilled technique, a natural performer. I didn't say perfect but she's singing the aria I've wanted to sing since I was a teenager. I'm 83 and I'm a spinto so I cannot do justice to this fabulous aria. Perhaps in my next lifetime.
Marly Harris wow
She has a bad technique
Amazing
The house rattled that night. Brava Christine!
A SPINTO DISGUISED as a Dramatic Soprano. LISTEN to a GENUINE DRAMATIC SOPRANO, " BIRGIT NILSSON. " FOR SPLENDID VERSIONS OF THIS ARIA, LISTEN TO "EBE STIGNANI "
and "ZARA DOLUKHANOVA"
uhhhh i have to disagree here. have you seen her live? her voice is MASSIVE.
Agreed. I've heard her live, it's WILD. Huge voice.
GOD I want to see her live.
You have tin ears.Everyone can't be compared to Birgit Nilsson.
The only true Eboli was Shirley Verrett. She did have it all.
What is with her tongue flailing like that on high notes?
Jacob
It’s called tension
check out the wonderful troyanos - a tongue like a hummingbird.
OMG that's something!
I love Christine Goerke, and this is a tour de force of singing. The only thing missing here--say, as compared to the great mezzo Giulietta Simionato--is the pathos. Goerke is displaying her gifts, but Giulietta FEELS the disaster that Eboli has brought on herself and her beloved. Listen to Simionato's 1958 live performance (within the context of the whole opera) from Vienna, available on TH-cam. Even Callas could not top that.
What I do hear here, however, is Goerke's (I hope, distant) future: she will be fantastic in the mezzo repertoire if she chooses to go there in later years, when she is finished with Brunnhilde. But she's already proved to be open to incredible growth as an artist.
Her chestvoice doesn’t sit well.
Instead she takes her headvoice down and get a thick ingolata sound.
And pitch problems.
I was about to say the same about lacking strong chest voice. I am looking for modern singers that actually have and use chest. Check out this is opera channel.
A A I’m there all the time...
You know those people who never have anything good to say about anyone??. Except dead people!!!
Don't send me a 1000words reply I won't read it.
@@CallasAfrica
Don’t worry
@@blonda.bacoviana Saioa Hernandez has the best chest voice!
Love her!
Great!!
💎✨💯 Stupendissime ! Ultra!
Brava
Some people really never have anything to say about anyone... Famous for being youtube trolls...
This is great singing
Don't send me a 1000words reply.. I won't read it.
Not great singing
Well, aren't you special.
Omg with these comments people. This is awesome.
Audrey Babcock I’ll never get over how brutal the online Opera community is to all the current greats. Christine is a POWERHOUSE. No denying it.
Audrey Babcock You can find the same ‘experts and critics’ on many of the opera clips. I think some people just live to find mistakes in opera singers. That is, unless it’s Callas - she can sing with the most God-awful voice, and the fanboys will say it’s great art.
Are you deaf? This is awful, unbalanced sound with a horrible vibrato. Unsupportable.
@@vitabella6481 you clearly aren't leading "the beautiful life" if you sling nasty comments like a troll on the internet without a face. Have an opinion but no need to be ugly, bella.
You've deaf.
BANG!!!!
nice
Absolutely sensational!!!!!!! Have seen many Ebolis, best were Elizabeth Connell and Agnes Baltsa, but Goerke is sublime!!!
They were good. This is bad…
Baltsa was indeed QUITE good. But Verrett was the best ever!
Gorgeous!
She sounds like a mezzo but she has no squillo in her voice. There is something flawd in her technique that is preventing her from having a ringing squillo sound.
big voice, powerful approach and painfully beautiful. just the way eboli should sound
Painful yes thats right. Ugly as hell.
You have to be joking
Really operatic horror.
Superbly controlled. Not a mezzo but not many singers around that can manage "fatale" this well.
Macho Voce
I’ve heard many sing this better
@@draganvidic2039 I agree. Much much better
It says soprano in the score
Well I would give anything to sing like her. Can any of you who made unkind comments do any better?
The thing is, if she had been trained properly, she sound much better. But she wasn’t.
Brava! Very healthy singing!
😂😂😂😂😂😂👍 made my day!
Not healthy. Severly detoriated now 7 years after…
Omg.
Nyet
FLAT
Suo italiano purtroppo molto scarso, la pronuncia desidera meglio ed anche magari la voce più morbida...
Horror!
¡Que voz! 😮
I recommend you hear Shirley Verret in the same role. That is a real Eboli!
Of course but she had a beautiful voice and knew how to handle it.
Leggo commenti di gente che di voci e fi canto poco capiscono magari ci fossero voci come questa altro che ingolata ...se non capite nulla tacete!
she made text error.... O mia Regina, io t'immolai
(Al folle error) here she made some words - di questo cor.
Oh that's horrible. She is disqualified from ever singing this again?
FLAT again. Does this woman ever sing in tune?
almost never.
BRAVO! Madame Goerke,
I'm curious about your costume, is this the one that was auctioned years ago by the Carol BURNETT estate from her Bob Mackie collection? Carol wore it when she played Scarlett O'Hara on her way to visit Rhett Butler in jail to get $300 to pay for the taxes on the Tara plantation. Having nothing to wear, and wanting to look her best she stared at the green/black curtains in the ballroom, tore the velvet material down and had her "Mammy" make the dress.What happened to the curtain rod and why didn't you wear it? It would have been an even grander entrance! Just curious.
As for the famous Aria, my sentimental side goes for that other GREEK.... TATIANA TROYANOS.
impressive! but there's no beauty in the voice, it's just big. Top notes have a wild ulgy vibrato which is a sign of to much pressure. And no, i'm not jealous, good singing makes me happy, but 'im not deaf like most people seem to be.inour days.
Try to sing this Arie - it's so difficult! And try not to cry, it's a big opera for big voices!
She sounds even worse now.
Increased wrong vibrato, spread tone, flat and rough tone.
Yeah it is a difficult aria, of course. But as many singers of the past had shown: it is possible to sing it really well. With the good old technique. The modern technique kills big voices. The reason why we have no big voicrs left.
I think she’s fantastic.
@@vineyardvillaalgarve7747I have heard about it. Could you describe what's the difference between those two techniques and why the modern one kills big voices, please?
She is awfully flat a lot of the time - technical deficiencies at this point of her career or is she showing signs of singing to many big roles?
And with technical ability are you speaking from? If you think she is flat, and she's not, then specify the pitches and the notes at the times, so we might evaluate your comment as a fact. Rather than a opinion.
Gary N. Reese She is flat. Good for you if you don’t hear it.
@@GaryNReese Flat is not an opinion. Pitch can be measured
Terrible. Woofy, thick, girded, distorted. Terrible vibrato. What a shame.
Здорово! Она сопрано, поэтому эта сложнейшая ария ей так легко даётся!!
I like her voice. It's just that everything is so loud and sometimes or many times she sohnds out of pitch. Anyway, I didn't like the aria because of that but indeed a very nice voice.
Many arias Verdi wrote are difficult to sing because they have a wide range (every soprano who ever sang Aida knows that) and force the singer to put the entire spectrum of emotions into a couple of minutes only. The tessitura for Eboli is tricky. And the two arias she has are so far apart from each other concerning temper, speed and expression that you better know something about psychology when you sing them ;-)
She *IS* terribly flat a lot of the time and +Altonahh10 that has nothing to do with Verdi, tricky tessitura or wide range - it is a technical flaw _she_ has.
No. She just has intonation problems.
Can you explain how she is out of pitch? Rather than just your opinion? I am always amused by these comments on pitch. I want the notes that should be sung properly and where she missed the mark. Otherwise, you're wrong, and your opinion is no better than mine.
Yeah, I hear verrrry few pitch problems...especially compared to other singers...
Dreadful.
Maybe she should try contralto roles and I mean not disrespect, she is kind of powerful
.
She has no low notes.
Not good ones.
Are you kidding?
such an ugly sound, wobbly and ingolato. And the Top??? different big vibratos on one tone? If I hear such singing called opera singing I understand very well why so many people dont like Opera. And by the way: the players in the opera orchestras usually HATE such singing.
How wrong you are! Look at the orchestra players applauding her at the end. They loved this performance--as do I. People who don't like opera generally don't like classical music. Usually they have not been exposed (at an early age) to the Western classical tradition (through piano lessons, for example).
I agree 100%... can’t stand this style of singing which is what today’s “dramatic” singers are doing unfortunately :-/
@@jamesnickoloff6692 orchestra players are professionals, the clap for everybody when exposed. Talk to them behind the stage, and you will hear the truth. Are they exposed enough to classical music? Yes the audiences today are sadly used to all this crap. But if they would hear beside such singing real singing like the standards were 70 years ago, they would throw tomatoes on the stage on singers like sbpve. Screaming and wobbling does not mean dramatic. Listen to Traubel, Nilsson, Therborg, Varnay and and, and you will know what dramatic singing means! Many of the opera lovers dont go anymore to the opera theaters because they can not stand howling. I'm one of them.
Horrible.
Idiot!
Seems like a nice lady but not my fave singing.
This is my first time hearing Ms. Goerke. I don't really like what I hear. Too much vibrato and rather out of tune most of the time.
What do you like?
I'll listen in. Thank you for the suggestion.
Well, well, she is one of the best Wagnerian singers on this earth at the moment. She will be Elektra at the COC in Toronto this season, I can’t wait.
Sorry if people get offended, what I consider even more offensive is that these mediocre singers get paid for this. It's so nasal and horrible.
the high Cb was good, but the voice is ugly and she just loud for no reason.. sounds like a owl-ish mezzo soprano and the vibrato is hooty sounding and disgusting
A great voice ruined by a very bad technique.
It is a good voice; however, this is a mezzo aria and she is supposedly a wagnerian. Listening to her soprano roles, including Puccini and Wagner, she has real problems with the top. So much chest, sounds like Horne or Bumbry and not a soprano.
BRAVAAAAA!