The Tragedy Of America's Lost Son
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- As the eldest son and namesake of one of America’s best-loved presidents, John F. Kennedy, Jr. spent his entire life in the public eye. He was just three years old when his father was assassinated, and became a living symbol of the hope, optimism, and vitality of the Kennedy administration.
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Do you believe in the Kennedy curse 🤔?
it's funny how America hates peace loving politicians and famous people, JFK Sr, John Lennon, JFK Jr. yeah that's real freedom, and freedom of speech. you could probably do an entire episode on the peace loving American people that have died after gaining enough fame to run for office. I don't believe there is curse, just people that want to stay in power, and don't want peace in America. America politics does have that theme after all.
No curse. I think they were reckless and entitled. I still think highly of JFK and RFK
I believe they got what they gave.
how does one family have that much bad luck?? Even with all the fame, wealth, and power this family had (which may have precipitated some events); it seems unreal. Also, there are many rumors about that crash and we will probably never know the exact truth. the person I felt the worse for was Rose Kennedy...
It’s rather difficult not to believe in it.
He was SO HANDSOME.
A real hunk!!
I am sure he was a real gentleman!
Incredibly handsome!
Until the day he was introduced to that peroxide blonde of a Jezebel.
And so screwed up
I think younger people can't realize what a shock it was to hear of his death. Due to his lineage, charisma, intelligence and movie star looks, he was always being followed by the press. He was so famous and well known. It seemed unbelievable that he had died so young.
Being in the public eye like that is a kind of a prison. You cannot look out without being observed. It's a kind of a hell because expectations on him were so high, he was reckless probably in part because he simply expected to be able to do things, to be a cut above the rest. It is a tragedy but of a kind that reflects us and our insatiable appetite for information, however mundane, about people who interest us.
Americas lost sons are the young men that fought and died for their country.
Yes, thank you!
Amen…
Bless his Uncle Joe who fought and got shot down in a war.
@@cheriamour2429 Yeahhhhh, not really. He was also a privileged reckless elite. The only reason he flew that mission was because his brother John had just gone through the PT109 tragedy and received much adulation and medals for it. Joe was pissed and super jealous of him. He didn’t fly that mission out of heartfelt feelings to help win that war.
Absolutely right
No, I don't believe in a family curse, I believe that all families have tragedies, and the Kennedy family just had an audience. The plane crash was truly a pilot error, flying over water in marginal weather was a mistake, not a curse.
I’m a 69yo Retired Corporate Pilot and that night I flew from Nantucket to Long Island at the same time JFK Jr. was going the other way. We had to have passed each other. Him going east and me heading west. The weather was NOT bad. It was just drk with a high overcast at about 10,000 feet. I easily saw the Connecticut coast and the north shore of Long Island. The forward visability was at least 30 miles. The next morning when I heard the news I was shocked.
I agree. There’s no curse. All families have their tragedies.
@@marksamuelsen2750 : Co-pilot was not a "good guy," and yes, the weather was clear; people on the shore commented thereafter.
Murder
Died of arrogance
He was the cutest little boy & grew into a really handsome man. Tragic 😢❤
He was definitely a very good looking man .Great genes,I see that he has his Mother Jackie's beautiful brown eyes!!
Precious 😢
Yes ! Consumed by his own ego and then vola ! ....... Worm food 🧏
We are all that kid by the roadside, just like John John, who’s alive and well and is our next VP along with Trump saving America from “them” 🙏🏼🇺🇸🦅 TBIYTC 🤩
John Kennedy, Jr is in the Witness Protection program. Someone had placed a bomb on his plane and another more experienced pilot flew the plane and got out before the bomb exploded.
As others have commented you ignored other factors: he was inexperienced, he didn’t have training/permit to fly at night, the weather…instead you focused on the “Kennedy curse”. The only curse that family had is overconfidence/recklessness which stems from too much privilege.
Overconfidence and recklessness are adjectives that triggered me in your comment because even though he may have had good qualities, he had that pretentious personality of those who are over-privileged. When he was still dating Darryl Hannah they came into a luxury boutique where I worked on Madison Avenue and they treated the staff and mainly me like we were their personal staff. They spoke rudely and sought to demean us just so they can position themselves above “the hired help”. I eventually just walked away and the rest of the sale staff just stopped catering to them. They were so pissed off; they just left. We had the last laugh.😂
Gee thanks.
Please refer to my message above no Kennedy curse they are just a bunch of people who don’t understand the word NO
Finally a honest statement.
You are so right about that. The media built JFK Jr into something he was not. No one fails the bar exam like that who has a functioning brain, ok? His incapacity was everywhere but no one dared to say anything because, hey, he was royalty. Dead royalty now. He would have been 64 this year.
I'm saddest for the parents of his wife Carolyn & SIL Lauren, the beautiful Bessettes. Unimaginable, to lose two children at once. I pray they've somehow found healing & much comfort. 💙💙
I'm saddest for Caroline.
Yes, the Bessetes are often overlooked. So tragic for the parents and family. Who now would willingly become involved with the Kennedy’s?
@@amberspaulding Yes, I also feel terrible for Caroline. I'm thankful that she has a loving family of her own now, including Edwin & their 3 children, to provide the comfort I'm sure she still needs.
I'm also thankful that Jackie didn't live to see John's passing. You know she was the 1st to greet him on the other side. Wishing comfort to all who knew & still miss them. 💙💙💙
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i I'll bet lots of folks would still involve themselves w/ a Kennedy. They're a large family full of unique & special individuals, after all. Their sheer numbers also increase the odds in both good & bad ways. Having lots of people to love in one's circle means many joys *&* many sorrows.
Fate can be all the more tragic when a figure is remembered with such empathy &/or sentimentality. John was a True Hottie to some. To others, he was that little boy playing under Dad's desk, or saluting his coffin. But the bitter *doesn't* remove the sweet, and none of us is here forever. John's passing just stung even more than usual, like his Dad's (& others in the fam), b/c it hurts more to lose those who, rightly, should have been able to remain here with us for decades longer. Esp. when they seem to hold such glorious promise for a bright future. I wistfully reflect sometimes on how different the world would be if both John & his Dad had survived to old age. But that was not in God's plan.
As for any curse...? The more chances we take in Life, whether through brave, foolhardy or impatient action, the greater the risk of calamity. Having seen much tragedy befall those around me, I try to stay a bit careful. But my time will come, too. It will for all of us.
We still must live according to our code. For many, that code includes daring Fate from time to time. I wish those folks much safety, good luck & happiness. We should all *Hug our nearest & dearest daily,* just in case. RIP, John-John. 💙
Having lost one child I am 100pc in agreement !
SHOULD ANYONE BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ALLOWING JOHN'S PLANE TO EVEN TAKE OFF??
My ex was in the service at the time of JFK Jrs. Crash. He was at the Base that that sent out the crew that recovered the bodies. He said that JFK Jr was still strapped in, but he said that the seat belt had cut him in two. I assume it was the force of the impact. So tragic.
I wonder if they drowned or if they died of Blunt Force Trauma?
Wow that’s horrible
Thank you for your post. I find these little bits of information fascinating
Never heard that, I did read that the 3 bodies were still strapped in and perfectly preserved because of the frigid water
Wonder if that’s why they were cremated
He did not have an instrument rating. He was not qualified to fly at night. He should never have begun that flight. He became disoriented in the mist and lost control of the plane. Tragic.
An instrument rating is not required to fly at night in the United States. I understand he did meet the training standards for night flight.
@@Tom-zs6bb Too bad because it was definitely a factor, that and the mist.
@@sarahgupton2552 Vis was absolutely a factor but even having an instrument rating does not guarantee a successful outcome when encountering IIMC.
Exactly.
I was at the Bar in the Airport that Friday night at the airport his small private plane left from. I was at the Bar, The Bomb Squad, that was at the airport. Later I heard that JFK Jr wanted to leave earlier, but was waiting for his wife who didn't like the color her nails were painted, so she had them redone, which made her get there later, and so they took off much later than JFK Jr. wanted to leave. @@Tom-zs6bb
He did not have a IFR rating he should never be allowed to fly at night. Reckless.
In the United States an instrument rating is not required for night flight.
My uncle was a flight instructor and told his students that if you do not have IFR rating, you do not fly in any questionable weather day or night.
He did need a license to fly at night. If you ask any pilot they will say the same, no matter if its America or not. He took off during daylight thinking he would get there in daylight. He went off course because he didn't have the proper license to recognised that the sky was up and the ground was down. That's why he didn't realise the sea was as close as it was. Fact.
@@Tom-zs6bbit may not be, but it is prudent, particularly when flying over water at night without any reference to a horizon. It was his hubris and inexperience that killed him.
@@mapleleaf902 Good advice, to be sure. I've told my students the same thing.
JFK Jr’s plane disappearance was the first major breaking news story I first heard from the internet rather than TV or newspapers. Such a sad end for a young man who showed such promise.
It was sabotage by stockholders of NorfolkSouthern who didn’t want to see the New York, Chicago, & St. Louis Railroad aka The Nickel Plate Road to leave its fallen flag status.
Big deal.
Kennedy curse? Phooey. My Mother’s side of the family has many, many members and the amount of death through accident, illness,and even murder (several separate) is staggering. So far and thankfully… no suicide.
You are logical, pragmatic, and smart. I've thought the same way for many years now. Everything is a numbers game. The more members of a group, the more likely a few will be lost. Add a penchant for high-speed, high-activity sports and lifestyle, in addition to the longevity of said group remaining in existence,
and the odds become even greater for bad things to happen. Every time I see something about the "Kennedy Curse", I'm frustrated for people unable to see the obvious. Thanks for letting me vent. I was so astonished to see that someone else could see the accidents, tragedies, losses, (or whatever you want to call them) are not from some voodoo hex.
I reckon death is the common denominator to living.
Sooner, or later . . .
☆
Hope your right
From Canada: Sounds like America ma'am.
Same here our family has a long list of Tragedies ❤
I remember this horrific tragedy. He & his beautiful wife and her sister. His mother died before this heart breaking tragic accident. May they all rest in peace forever. 💙🩷💜
His wife was just a ‘Plain Jane’ whose family owns stock in NorfolkSouthern.
He should have been able to follow whatever career he wanted
Maybe he would have still been alive now
Yes, Jackie should have kept her nose out of it! Her fault!
If he didn’t have who he had for in-laws!
Don’t dare lay that on her doorstep!
Same...the mom was a bit too controlling and it made him a bit confuse about life. She wanted him in his father's footsteps without allowing him to be what he wanted to be..
As a biological relative of the Kennedy family, those are fighting words to me.
Anthony Radziwell wasnt a Kennedy, he was the nephew of Jackie via her suster Lee. Anthony had been battling cancer for years before he died. In fact, one of the things John did that fateful Friday was write the eulogy to Anthony's funeral. Ironically, that same eulogy was read at John's funeral instead.
But he had a cousin named Anthony Kennedy who was the only U.S. Supreme Court justice who was against George W. Bush going into the White House, despite his brother Jen tampering with the voting machines in Florida in the 2000 election.
1963 was not the start of the "Kennedy Curse." In the 1940's, JFK had already lost a brother and sister in separate plane crashes.
And a lobotomized sister
@@julesjay424 Rosemary. People tend to forget about her.
And people still refuse to believe it's a curse...the patterns are very clear
We know that Joe Jr’s plane was shot down over Belgium 🇧🇪 by the artillery bombardment of the 3rd Reich in 1944.
Plus, we’re also aware that the plane crash that killed Kathleen was in 1948.
Furthermore, I as a biological relative of the Kennedy family urge you here and now to stop all future ‘curse’ talk of that kind.
This is a really good encapsulation of JFK Jr's life. Thank you. What a loss to all Americans. Jackie was correct about his flying.
Nothing he says is correct 🙄 John John is still alive working along with Trump to drain the swamp WhooHoo 🥳 TBIYTC 🙏🏼💞🇺🇸
Maybe if she had allowed him to fly before she died he would have gotten more experience and the level of training that he needed
Now that’s just not true at all!
He wouldn’t associate with Trump because there’s bad blood between their families, like the old time hillbilly feuds that we’ve always had here in Kentucky.
parsleypalace3272,
As a biological relative of the Kennedy family, those are fighting words to me.
Since I personally knew someone who went down in a small plane (and was never found), I distrust them. I think it's more a "small plane and helicopter curse" rather than the Kennedy curse.
Funny he was running for senator against Hillary
Makes you wonder
@@shirleylee3845there is no wonder, she went on to take the seat and so it began. Not only the seat but getting rid of that name which had much support inside the party. It was critical to rise to where she has FACT!
shirleylee3845,
As a biological relative of the Kennedy family, those are fighting words to me.
Now, I’ll make this as perfectly clear as possible, the plane was sabotaged by the Aryan Brotherhood, so either accept what I just said, or face my wrath.
briandonovan5687,
I don’t know how correct you may be, but do you feel that the plane was sabotaged by the Aryan Brotherhood?
If you happen to point the finger of guilt at Hillary Clinton, then maybe you’re the one with bats 🦇 in your belfry.
I was up flying that night. I departed Nantucket heading west to Islip MacArthur Airport on Long Island. It was at the same time that JFKJr. was headed east. We had to pass each other separated by a just a few miles. The next morning I was home on Long Island watching the news and couldn’t believe what had happened. I looked at my wife and said God Damn it I can’t believe this!!! I was in the 4th. grade when his father was assassinated and I remember how I felt then and how I felt that morning when hearing about the crash. Exactly the same horrible feelings.
How was the flying that night?
Just asking.
Ditto😢
Wow...and the weather conditions wasnt favorable that night...
And all the more reason why they should have taken the train instead.
And another pilot who had often flown with him and had an instrument rating offered that very day to accompany him, and John said no. The “if only” is terrible. 😞
Years ago an FAA attorney told me that there are only 2 reasons why an airplane crashes: mechanical fault or pilot error. Clearly, JFK, Jr. had no business flying that night.😢
And the plane was a model that was not beginner friendly.
To my knowledge, he lacked instrument training on flying an aircraft. Once he lost the horizon, he was vulnerable to the aircraft turning into a dive that he couldn’t escape.
Yeah kilery had someone plant a bomb on his plane, Bc she wanted that senate seat, he found out, then faked his death and is now working along side Trump to drain the swamp 💪🏼💞🙏🏼🇺🇸🦅 TBIYTC 🤩💞🇺🇸💞🇺🇸
Yep
How dare that attorney overlook sabotage!
The only argument I have with your narrative is that he ignored the weather reports. From everything I have read he was given a bad weather report...other pilots said they too found out the fog was really thick. God Bless those who were lost.
Fog wasn’t so much a factor as sabotage by the Aryan Brotherhood was.
Weather reports have been known to be intercepted and delayed.
Just the same, sabotage was afoot thanks in part to the Aryan Brotherhood.
It wasn’t so much the disregarding of weather reports as it is sabotage by the Aryan Brotherhood.
What you’ve been reading is a result of the old philosophy of “When the legend becomes a fact, print the legend” from the 1962 b&w John Ford western movie “THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE”.
In actuality, the plane was sabotaged by the Aryan Brotherhood.
He also dated Madonna for a minute and she got him to introduce her to his mother. She (Jackie) was not impressed.
Hmmmm 🤔. Can’t imagine why.
That’s hilarious
Jackie Kennedy did not want John dating ACTRESSES. John also dated Darryl Hannah, and Jackie hated her.
Yes true. I believe parents should allow children to make their own choice however I can't blame the mother these were just famous women looking for more fame...
Geez, can't imagine why not. Icky, I can't see him with Madonna.😝
Like a supermodel or some freakin beautiful 1940s actor, it's ridiculous how sexy this man was. All my friends were so in love with him. My friend then proceeded to tell me that someone she knew met him or worked with him, and she stated that he was genuinely sweet, humble, kind and listened intently when you spoke to him. Gentle spirited. I was like, Damn he's beautiful, wealthy AND nice. Rare. Wow. 🎉❤
It's irresponsibility, not curse.
All I saw of the drop down notification was America’s Lost Son, and I knew immediately who it was. 😢
😢
You’ll be extremely happy then Bc he’s alive and well working with Trump to drain the swamp 🙏🏼💞🇺🇸🦅💞 TBIYTC 🤩
That’s a lie!
Would you like to give sworn testimony in a court of law that the plane was sabotaged by the Aryan Brotherhood?
@@user-wi6sh6vh8u plane was loaded with ex plosives Bc kilery wanted that senate seat, John John found out, then faked his dea th 👍🏼🇺🇸 TBIYTC 🤩
He was truly a beautiful man ❤
And would have made a dandy railroad executive.
My husband (who has now passed away) and I were on the Nantasket Beach that day they were looking for the plane, we saw many helicopters and planes flying around all day. It really is a sad commentary on the family legacy
I as a biological relative of the Kennedy family can assure you that the Aryan Brotherhood is responsible for the murder, and that their henchmen, including former LAPD Plainclothes Detective Mark Fuhrman will be apprehended and brought to justice!
Understandable.
Which day ,if I may inquire?
The first day missing or second third, fourth or fifth.
Asking for a friend.
What a beautiful man. Gone too soon. RIP💔
Only because he was secretly planning to revive the New York, Chicago, & St. Louis Railroad.
My God, he was such a handsome, charming young Man...❤😢
Would you like to submit a statement that it’s possible for the Aryan Brotherhood to have sabotaged the plane?
Real name george
One major contributing factor,is Hilldabeast was running for the same NY Senate seat.. there,I said it.
I agree with you 100% and think the same thing you do. Everyone I know agrees with me.
Word
That part!
Wise up to the fact that he was murdered to prevent the reviving of the New York, Chicago, & St. Louis Railroad!
@@user-wi6sh6vh8u yeah, everyone knows THAT was WAYYY more of a threat than H.C. 🙄🤦
I'd had a crush on him my entire life. I remember my mother calling me early that morning to tell me his plane was missing. As this was the days of tiny portable TV's, I had it firmly in my hand as I took my daughter to her soccer game that day, to work with me the next day, and kept vigil until they were found. Even now I still can't make sense of it. We lost a good one. To this day I still have a tiny picture of him on my fridge.
Except for the fact that I’m biologically related to him.
PS. Oswald did not shoot JFK. Do some research.
I believe you, but who did assassinate JFK?
Then who did?
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i They have to declassify the JFK assassination docs before we can find out. I don't believe they plan on doing that.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i I know that answer. Jr names his magazine after the shooter!
Another believer of my oldest son’s theory that J. Edgar Hoover personally pulled the trigger on the 6th floor of the school book depository building.
I worked as underwriter a file on my desk had multiple claim for accidents. Problem is no one ever said no to that family. Buggies in sand which killed the sand grass. No one stopped a Kennedy 3:33
It all comes with being famous and entitled...however that could also be thier down downfall....
It was Caroline who despised Ari; John considered him the closest thing to a dad he'd ever had. John also had no problem with Christina and sent a beautiful bouquet to her funeral. Unlike his mother, John wasnt petty, egotistcal, or held grudges.
And though not documented, John probably had dyslexia--something that shouldve prevented him from flying.
Not true. not true either.
Dyslexia doesn't prevent you from flying learn a little something. Got my glider scholarship at 12 and a half diagnosed with dyslexia at 18 it's called compensatory skills so no dyslexia is not a barrier and it's a spectrum many kinds of dyslexia, formed by the sylvain cusp. Pick up a book do you love putting people down. Are you a troll. Blessings and Truth For All
Restrictions may be tougher if one is going for a commercial license.@@candyrosefreeman7232
I believe it was very well documented that he was dyslexic
Christina did despise Jackie, she felt that she was only after Ari's money, and feared that she was taking her father away from her.
Thank you, you cannot help thinking a life unfulfilled, an incomplete legacy.
Lay the blame on the Aryan Brotherhood.
I still have the news paper of his crash to this day. He was such a beautiful man and a kind soul RIP John John🤍🤍
He was arrogant and stupid and reckless with the lives of others!
@@lcaceci43 Well, he was human, and we make mistakes. I’m sure you have made a few, for example this post.🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a biological relative of the Kennedy family, those are fighting words to me.
John should have been an actor
Otherwise a top notch railroad executive.
Beautiful human, inside and out ❤ tragic choice to fly at night when he did not have the capability… Still who among us has not made silly choices? RIP John, Caroline, and Lauren❤❤❤
My silly mistakes didn't get people killed
The cover of his magazine mocking George Washington is proof he wasn't beautiful inside. Arrogantly thinking he could fly a plane he was inexperienced with, especially under bad weather conditions, tells us he was reckless with people's lives. Considering whom he dated before marriage, I suspect he was reeled in, as his father was, to marry a socialite to bolster their status on their way to power. He had moved out of their apartment in order to "work" on their marriage just before the plane crash.
Forget acting and actresses/models for your entertainment, boy-o. Go take the bar exam until you pass (don't be like your rapist Uncle Ted, failing 3 times), then blow it on publishing a leftist magazine, because working at a lot of law offices indicates you failed as a lawyer. The only reason for a Kennedy to get a law degree was to get into politics and hang onto whatever power was still available to the family.
Don’t be too upset at the attitude.. They are just pissed because Junior never showed up in Texas.. Because He’s DEAD!! Truth is TRUTH…
@@amylarson3958 his wife was more than an hour late to the airport for departure due to making the nail tech redo her pedicure. If she had been on time, they would have made it to the island while there was still daylight. He should have decided to layover for morning.
@amylarson3958 lucky you,now say thnks
I grew up watching him on tv.we are the same age.sad
The Kennedys were risk takers for sure, both physically and politically. Not sure if it was a curse. He was a handsome and affable young man. He had a heavy burden to carry with his legacy amidst the privileges, looks and wealth afforded him. He was human and made mistakes like the rest of us. Personally, I never cared for his choice of wife and the disintegration of their marriage obviously preyed upon his mind days before the crash. It is questionable who the person or people were who advised him not to fly that night … conflicting reports as always. In any case, for those who watched him grow up, we only wished the best for him. It was a trajedy and he is missed and what might have been.🤔🤔🤔
Great post.
You may feel that you knew them but you didn’t. You have no idea who his wife was. I think it’s pretty irresponsible and cruel to comment on someone who is no longer here to defend herself. You think it was easy to be with any Kennedy??? Shame on you
@@julesjay424Not for all the tea in China would I marry into a family like the Kennedys, or our Royal Family. Freedom and privacy mean more than fame, fortune or titles to me and most of the women I know. The thought of it makes me shiver.
@@user-fq8rs7rz3i
So true lol
Too bad Hilary wanted his Senate seat. He'd be president
Maybe that was no accident? Anything Hillary is involved around is sus
She tried to have him killed. He went into witness protection. He is coming back soon. Do some research.
No doubt.
@@JT-gx3ku some of us are in sync. Yes his secret service protection detail found the trip wire. They all had a much better plan!
He wanted to be President alright, not in The White House, but of the New York, Chicago, & St. Louis Railroad!
Sometimes money buys nothing but trouble.
That depends on who treats it with respect and who gets too frivolous with it.
I remember the day his father died and that image of him in his short pants and little coat looking so alone as the caisson rolled by, and I remember the day the news of his own death was broadcast. I hope he would forgive me for wanting him to carry the torch of Democracy as his father did.
But he was getting tired of a political career and wanted revive the New York, Chicago, & St. Louis Railroad as a commercial venture, but was murdered by the stockholders of NorfolkSouthern who didn’t want to see the Nickel Plate Road give up its fallen flag status.
Jacqueline always had fears of her son flying! It absolutely terrified her after Onassis lost his son in a plane crash. As far as acting Jacqueline I believe Marilyn Monroe was the cause for the animosity of the profession. The situation of John Jr death was hard for me. I lost my beloved younger brother 5 months before. I heard the news report that John Jr. would be flying to his cousins wedding instantly I had a horrible premonition! 😮 I won't discuss it here but I saw what happened as if I were in a movie theater!
I believe you. I’ve had more than one premonition that came true. Nothing as major as you experienced, but each of mine definitely came true.
user-jp1zs8wy5n,
I am soo glad you didn't let on and try to tell them what was about to befall them, not that they'd listen to a lowly peasant anyway, but still . .
But we must all live our own lives and allow Destiny to be fulfilled. Changing one person's life could impact millions. And who are you to decide who will live or die, and when ? No . . .you did the right thing.
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Then when it happened-- must have been so terrible.
yes I believe you my young brother’s death i dreamed of the night before in the 70s ,his death created some very positive events in lots of lives including some now very famous people, including our families ❤
I believe you. I've never had these type of premonitions myself, but my mother used to get them. She would have horrifying dreams of people dying...and a few days later, they would be dead. That hasn't happened to her in a long time (she's almost 83), but is used to happen to her back in her 20s and 30s.
What got me was his wife, who quit her job and then complained that she couldn't get a job, why did she quit her job in the first place🤔
Yes-makes NO sense!!
Lazy?
From watching this, it said she didn't like the limelight and that's fair enough and maybe the reason why she quit was because the media/paparazzi knew where to find her and set up cameras daily as they were obsessed with the couple, remote work and internet wasn't a thing then.. But she then tried to look for work in other places and was accused of using his name to get a job..
I think that she could have kept her position at CK, perhaps working behind the scenes rather then up front. She didn’t have the wherewithal and resilience to deal with his popularity in the press and consequently hid out in their condo and appeared miserable in most photos. Never thought that it was a good match and they were living separately at the end. “Love is blind but the neighbours aren’t “ as the saying goes.🤔
Fishmoth. In both looks and personality
I was devastated when I heard about the crash. He was so young, had so many years ahead of him. The fact that he and Carolyn never had the chance to have kids made it all the more tragic. He was the only male heir on his father's side of the family. I still reel from all this.
The marriage was in trouble they were living separate the day of his death and the wife didn't want children according to John.. it was a major problem in their marriage
FYI, she secretly saw a surgeon who removed her ovaries and uterus before the wedding.
Plus, given the fact that her parents happen to be stockholders of NorfolkSouthern.
this is the story ''they'' tell us.
supposedly,,still alive & waiting to show face when the real chaos starts in america
@@tharlenelakesmathis2794 oh i could only hope so.
@tharlenelakesmathis2794 no its worse than that, he was executed. Research who had something to gain from his death? THERE ARE MANY BO
Bodies associated with them
@@hell0hkitty but he & another thats alive, (not John)made a vid. will play a part in the final war.
Just very sad and a waste of young lives.
It was sabotage that was perpetrated by the Aryan Brotherhood.
And all because of the Aryan Brotherhood.
Blame it on the Aryan Brotherhood.
One actual target and two bystanders.
Very very sad that this young man’s life was so controlled by others. He should have pursued acting.
He should have learned how to fly properly!
If you are adult your life is not controlled by others. Unless you have a serious mental disability, of course, which wasn't the case here.
@@lcaceci43Or admit that he isn't that good yet. He was responsible for other people so the decision to fly was very selfish. It's a sad story nevertheless.
@Suuusan28
Wrong many people are control by others including their parents
@@semoneg2826 Then it´s their choice to be controlled. You can be manipulated, true, but it´s not the same as being controlled.
JFK Junior failed the bar but Letitia James 2024 passed the bar? Must be a different bar.
How could he possibly have taken a 2024 bar exam when he’s been dead since 1999?
His mother tried to set the record straight about the salute. Hed been taught to salute the flag. He was far too young to understand his dad wss in that coffin.
So
sad he died so young.
He was a strikingly handsome man with great character. No curse.
He made bad decisions on that day.
He could of done great things had he lived. He would of been a good dad.
The curse is a family think not about him alone...if a lot of young men in your family is dying young you better start taking notice..something is operating there
And President of the New York, Chicago, & St. Louis Railroad.
If you happen to mean the Aryan Brotherhood, then you’re correct in more ways than one assuredly.
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Another example of "Mother Knows Best!" He should have listened to his smart mother -- who'd clearly feared what would happen should he ever put himself in the pilot's seat........Jackie was no fool.
Don’t go in the attempt to compare Jackie to the mother of Norman Bates from the Hitchcock movie “PSYCHO”.
She wasn’t smart either.
Sometimes one’s social upbringing is just not normal, which means that even with or without eccentricity, limitations are still needed.
If he had married Daryl Hannah when he wanted & Jackie forbidded; he would be alive today
Possibly, but still hard to swallow.
The public is being LIED to !!!
Yup Bc some us know he’s alive and well and helping Trump drain the swamp 🙏🏼💞🙏🏼🇺🇸 TBIYTC 🤩
Tell it to Larry Slone the physical education teacher at Rowan County Middle School in Morehead, Kentucky, and remember that Slone had help from his fellow Klansmen when he sabotaged the plane engine.
Wasn't there a book written by a past Carolyn boyfriend...saying that she Aborted THEIR unborn child & ALSO She had Aborted a JFK unborn child 😢. Does anyone know the Title of that Book Or the name of The Author >>> past Carolyn Bisset boyfriend? Z
What else is new? Perhaps we'll soon have a better understanding.
Visit Morehead, Kentucky, and confront Klansman Larry Slone in person.
With him out of the way, politically....Who now could run un-opposed?
John was breathtakingly handsome in person.
I used to see him in Lower Manhattan in the 1980’s when he was commuting to work and he was always pleasant and friendly when you acknowledged him. His photos really don’t do him justice as he had a real magnetism and charisma that were very powerful!
I first saw him and his sister when I was a young University student in Athens, Greece trying to evacuate after the invasion of Cyprus by the Military Junta.
Olympic Airlines was then owned by Aristotle Onassis and I was booked on the last flight out to New York.
Suddenly a convoy of people boarded in front of me on the 2 tier jet, including John, Caroline, and their bodyguards.
John was just a gangly kid, maybe 13 or 14, with a very long lens camera dangling from his neck.
They had all just flown in from the private island of Skorpios to flee to New York.
So these were my chance encounters with JFK, Jr. I do believe he could have changed the world had he lived!
RIP John🙏
EDIT: They were buried at sea from a naval vessel. I always found this odd, especially for the family of the 2 sisters who would never have a gravesite to visit.
What about his decision to name the murderers of his Father in his mahazine. He didn't get this opportunity due to his premature death. RIP.
You really think that’s a coincidence?
I think he was taken out.
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No coincidences.😉
@@amysbees6686 agreed!
Strongly believe that if JFK, Jr. had live, he would make a big difference like his father & his uncle Robert respect, believe in civil rights, peace among nations. The U.S. & other nations would be better off if he had live for he's the hope for peace than what's happening today.
Wait til everyone finds out that Jr was by far a very accomplished & experienced pilot. What's coming will shock those that are still asleep. Don't believe everything you hear, read or watch folks. If you are Catholic, especially a Kennedy Catholic, you'd never be cremated. Also, there were 17 people [Q] on board the Navy ship. Do some research, connect the dots.
The story of John Jr. and his family is tragic on many levels. The Kennedy legacy prevented John Jr. from pursuing something relating to liberal arts, his first love career-wise. He wasn't into the law thing at all, whereas his sister Caroline passed the bar on the first try and is very much into law studies. Unfortunately, because he's The Boy, pressure was put on him to go into a career he wasn't into. When he founded George, he was finally able to merge what he liked doing with what his family expected of him.
Too often when someone gets into piloting, they can make the mistake of flying in conditions beyond their certification, as he did. AFAIK, John Jr. was only VFR certified, and the conditions into which they were flying required instrument certification (being able to fly the plane solely on what your instruments say, rather than by what you see out the window). When I'd heard this, I knew right away that it was pilot error.
Pilot error my eye!
As a biological relative of the Kennedy family, those are fighting words to me.
The plane was sabotaged by Ku Klux Klan member Larry Slone, but no one has bothered to bring him in front of a federal grand jury for indictment all because they’re too scared of reprisals from the Aryan Brotherhood.
Still refusing to accept the fact that the plane was sabotaged by the Aryan Brotherhood?
My favorite story about John F. Kennedy junior is one I had read about a month or two before his death. He and his wife were out walking their dog when a reporter asked him what breed was the dog. Kennedy is said to have answered (paraphrased) “We don’t know, we adopted him/her from the animal shelter.”
Suppose that the reporter was actually a member of the Aryan Brotherhood undercover?
Good grief.
My brother and I were celebrating my birthday that night. We were sitting out on my deck around 11pm, and saw the helicopters searching over Nantucket sound. It was a beautiful night in Hyannis. He was buried at sea very quickly?? Hmmm
Where they near the Vinyard south side right. How far from you were they.
@@petercole8798 We were on Seagate lane. About 1/8 mile from the shoreline. They were in that area for a while and then seemed to go towards NE.
He used poor judgment and ignored his wife's plea not to fly that night. Also, Kennedy was unable to fly on instruments and he thought he was over land when, in reality, he was over the ocean when he tried to land the plane. Shame that his arrogance caused not only his death, but that of his wife and sister-in-law.
Lee Harvey Oswald? Wow. You're way off the news pal.
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Oswald was only an accessory to J. Edgar Hoover who pulled the trigger on the 6TH floor of the school book depository in ‘63, and upon learning of his arrest and capture, Hoover then had Jack Ruby silence him to avoid being exposed as a murderer.
For the 3rd time, my heart was completely broken for this family." Goodnight, sweet prince...RIP
Well, everyone forgets that the reason he was flying at night was because his wife was 3or 4 hours late because she was shopping. He had been at the airport for hours waiting and talking to friends and people he knew at the airport. It was his responsibility as pilot to know his limits but when faced with missing the wedding he believed he could make it happen. Small aircraft aviation doesn’t allow for guessing and hoping. He payed the ultimate price for his error but he wasn’t the only one at fault. If they had left on time they would have been flying in daylight and no fog. He was there waiting so maybe the Bissette’s owed the Kennedy’s $15 million for wrongful death.
And you see the secret service get called off JFK's car, and then tell us Oswald did it. LOL! JFK had no secret service on his car, but that loser LBJ is surrounded by agents. Those 2 agents should have been on the back of JFK's car. I wonder who told Oswald.
I never believed Oswald killed JFK. Still don't.
Oswald only supplied the rifle.
J. Edgar Hoover pulled the trigger as the motorcade made its ill-fated left turn.
How about the possibility that Oswald only supplied the rifle and ammunition to J. Edgar Hoover who personally flew to Dallas just to pull the trigger in person???
It still breaks my heart.
It’s quite the sad story.
PatriciaCromwell-pf3ei - mine too Patricia. 😢
Especially since the government knows that the plane was sabotaged by the Aryan Brotherhood, and they’re too scared to prosecute, let alone investigate.
I remember this day...weekend 😢 I went to my camp for a relaxing weekend on Thursday night the next 3 day's were spent praying and stuck to the TV . I come from Boston Massachusetts , in my grandparents home were all kinds of pictures and a JFK Bronze Bust . My heart sank and tears flowed out of my eye's as if JFK JR. was my own Big brother . I had hopes he would be president someday. ❤😢 RIP John John may you rest peacefully ❤😢 🇺🇲
As much as i liked him and admired his good looks and charisma, i believe George Magazine was the first successful professional venture of his. Was still trying out this and that to make a living. Too sad he didnt live to see more of life.
Too bad that it never published a criticizing story against Nixon!
His mother knew him that he was impulsive and could be irresponsible at times. Sad part is he promised his mom to not fly then she died. There is no curse , the only thing that happened was one natural or by having so much money lack of acct ability and the desire of almost all of them to live life to the very edge. JFK should never ever have done what he did he was ridiculous . So caught up with his own desires of being right he had several pilots that night who begged to go with him. He was so caught up with drama of his marriage , and he was on pain meds worked to late and knew because of his limited training to fly in the day so he could see the land and shore line . Please don’t make him a god as we are all gods but what we decided affects others and his wife’s family list 2 daughters . One of them an identical twin. Stupid stupid I remembered that day . My friends and I knew he was toast because we saw it comming based on the news at the time . Yes it’s sad but we all make our own reality our own way by our thoughts he did not think about anyone’s but himself that night and losing his wife possibly . No other thought about there safely .
I have to ask myself why his wife and sister-in-law got in that plane with him piloting?! He had been flying for perhaps a year. Not a pro. He, i suppose, was a very self-confident individual who could convince others of his abilities. Not experienced. Sad.
When will you learn that the plane was sabotaged?
I don't believe there is any curse, but I don't understand why people want to act as if he deserved his fate just because he was born rich. He didn't pick his family. He did what most of us do. He dealt with the family and world that was dealt to him.
This. Exactly this. People's views of and comments on this event are almost always just stupid, and heartless as well. Ironic they call HIM stupid. People who live in glass houses really should not throw stones.
If there is a pattern in your family that is negative it's very well a curse...too much young men are dying out in this family
I think every man would want his looks but i remember him when he was 3 years old i was 16
One of the saddest days of my life..poor John John and his beautiful wife..just heartbreaking 😢😢😢😢😢 RIP JFK John Jaqueline
RIP 🙏
Нельзя называть сына именем отца 😔
You must have had a pretty fortunate life if the loss of a stranger is one of the saddest days of your life
And his sister in law
@@redshed2020 actually..No..
I most definitely believe in the "Kennedy Curse".
If JFK jr. would have ran for president, some fool would have taken a shot at him for just being JFK sr.' only son. It is indeed a tragic loss that would have been the death of his mother, had she not predeceased him five years earlier.
I think JFK jr. would have made a great leader. But I also think he would have felt much pressure to follow in his father's footsteps. I don't think he really wanted to do that.
❤❤❤well said
How do you ignore warnings of poor visibility?
He was always so good looking.
RIP John Jr..i would have voted for you for President.
Do you feel that the plane was sabotaged by the Aryan Brotherhood?
If he would have become an actor
Chances R
He'd STILL be here
He.always wanted.to.fly
And the same thing goes for becoming a top railroad executive.
Only because some lunatic discouraged his love for trains 🚂.
How can Carolyn’s parents successfully sue the Kennedy’s when the deceased were adults, two were married and only John was responsible? How were his relative’s responsible?
For starters, didn’t Grandpa Joe leave JFK Jr stock in the New York, Chicago, & St. Louis Railroad?
@@user-wi6sh6vh8u I have no idea.
It's called wrongful death.
John's estate was sued.
Jonh caused the crash.
@@deborahklinlger8565 ok. Thank you.
As a biological relative of the Kennedy family, those are fighting words to me.
For the three of them to perish in a plane crash at the prime of their lives was beyond tragic. From all accounts, JFK Jr was a humble, respectful man and no one who met him had anything disparaging to say about him. RIP John, Carolyn and Lauren.
I don't understand why the titles of the videos are so sensationalist? I watched and heard all of it and I am still waiting for the sauvage turn for the worse. When he died I was on my 30's so I am fully aware about the curse, its consequencies, marriages, death, tragedies, mysteries, etc. I was expecting something more, not what I already know. When I read the title I thought it was an evil discovery or a paranormal issue. Please, don't play the fool on the viewers...
I apologize if someone feels offended by my point of view...
No need to apologize. This video really didn't tell us anything we didn't already know. Maybe it's geared toward younger viewers, who aren't familiar with the Kennedy family like all us old folks are.
He said he had no memories of his father. Another sad fact.
One that can only be blamed on J. Edgar Hoover!
Money makes one a Royal! Omg...King Gates, king Rothchild...they arw just rich no different than us.
God damn, he was handsome!
Yes he was.
To this day maybe the most handsome men ever?
Are you demented? What does that matter?
I think he took after his mother
He has the shape of the Kennedy face but most definitely has Jackie's beautiful eyes!!
We sure could use a man of integrity in this day an age. He wouldve become president. Who took his seat that he was running for when he died? Was there a group that did not want his name in politics? Was there a person that would do anything to gain power? Even if it meant executing a Kennedy? It was so well planned n so simple no one even questained this, who could be so Evil?
briandonovan5687,
I know just what you mean about my cousin.
However, my good friend and fellow southerner as well as fellow Kentuckian Rocky Adkins should run in 2028.
The “spontaneous” salute was Jackie’s idea.
I am.sad for his sister losing.her brother ,and now us the only one of that immediate family still.living.She must be very strong. I.sdmire her.
And He had great hair!
What a great channel!! I love all the footage and images you provide along with your thoughtful reporting/storytelling!🙏🏽 New subbie🌼
@ilikeitlikethat7305,
This channel’s not exactly telling the ‘cold hard facts of life’ truth.
The plane was sabotaged by the Aryan Brotherhood under supervision of former LAPD Plainclothes Detective Mark Fuhrman.
I liked John because he was so human with all the flaws like that rest of us
What a beautiful you g man , wish he were here today , his cousin could use his help.
I subscribed to “George “ for almost its entire run. It is a shame it didn’t capture a following still sorely in need of a political education. RIP JFK Jr
WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN WRONG WITH FLYING DURING DAYTIME, ON A CLEAR DAY?
A Great Gentleman Outstanding Leadership and Sad We Never Saw him Become President of the United States,What could have Been.
Lets see how many can pass that bar the first time. Grankly id rather see someone fail a few times then find out people paid their way thru as failures.
JFK Jr and I were almost the same age and I followed his career closely. He was everything they said in this video and so much more. A couple of points though, he and Darryl Hannah weren't just "the relationship before Caroline," he and Darryl had been together and had broken up several times and we thought that they would make it permanent. As for the night of his crash, many of my friends and I waited for news the entire week until they found one of Caroline's suitcases in the water off the vineyard. I remember being *furious* with him for crashing the plane! Not only was he inexperienced, he *was* wearing a cast on his leg *and* he was not allowed to fly at night. Apparently he told people that he would be there before sunset, but it was already setting when they left. He only had something called VFR, meaning that he was only allowed to pilot with what's known as 'visual flight rating,* meaning *by sight only.* He was more than a year away from his IFR 'instrument flight rating,' meaning he could have flown without looking off the window. I carried anger with him for the longest time. Many of us were going to drag him into politics and we were going to set him as a 'write in' for some office or another though I can't remember which. Still so sad.
Once a plane dissappear over the ocean and especially after 25 hours most times it's death...I have no hope there the sea have no branches
Obviously it looks like someone stole the emergency life raft from the plane, which was a mandatory necessity.
Excellent video! He was quite handsome. Looked like both his parents. At least his death came after he lost his mom. I dont think she could've lived it hadn't. Terrible loss for Carolyn and her sister Laurens family too. Beautiful young women. My condolences to his sister, Caroline..she lost the most
Carolyn’s only good reason for marrying him was to try to stop his reviving the New York, Chicago, & St. Louis Railroad because her family held stock in NorfolkSouthern.
No mention of the tragic death of Alexander Onassis. Isn’t he worth mentioning because he wasn’t American or a Kennedy?
You’re right, Onassis was beyond heartbroken. Didn’t he blame Jackie, saying she brought a curse to his family? Or is that just Hollywood gossip?
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Yes he did
What does that have to do with this?
There is no Kennedy curse, unless Haitian voodoo is involved, which it is not!
Alexander Onassis just had plain old fashioned bad luck.