I worked for a few weeks at a restaurant that many Brown students frequented. He often came in. I treated him as I treated every customer. He was usually smiling unless he was talking about something serious. A few times he came in alone & I was a history nerd. I asked him a question about a conversation he had a few days before. He was informative, wrote down books he recommended, he treated me as an equal. He was also a great tipper.
@jennifer-wh3lw ... I always thought Carolyn had impeccable taste in clothes but then again, she was a sylist for C.K. and she was stunning. Her and John Jr. made a beautiful couple! They were both so very classy and sexy to say the least. Loved their black and white dog Friday.
I worked at 1407 Broadway at Harrys coffee shop. I waited in Carolyn and she was lovely and kind. I still remember what she ordered and she left me a great tip. So sorry how they died they were so nice.
My GF worked in a high end clothing shop that Carolyn would frequent. She was really cool and extremely funny. One time, she went shopping for pajamas for John and picked out a blue flannel pair with "paintings of the old west" patterns on them. Of course, my GF bought me the identical pair that day.
John walked past me one day walking his bike. It was on 45th and third avenue. I will never forget he wore white pants one leg rolled up. So unassuming . He walked past me. And I just took it all in.
I only know one person that saw John on a NYC streetcorner. He said the woman were about to faint being so near him. He was so beautiful in person. I wish I had seen him, and Carolyn was so beautiful. We all copied her style in the mid-90's.
The only good looking one cause he had Jackie’s bouvier genes. None of the Kennedy girls were pretty and the guys all had those huge teeth well so did the girls
I absolutely love JFK Jr. and Carolyn stories. It seems like not so long ago when his plane went down. Ted saying at JFK Jr funeral “ John we hardly knew ye” was a complete understatement. I hope more videos more stories would come out, but it’s not likely.
They are both still here as well as almost 1000 others who went into Federal Witness Protection to help take down the corrupt crooked deepstate. Heard jfk jr will be our next president and Candace Owen's who is MLK Jr. Grand daughter will be our new V.P. He and jfk Sr were also in witness protection and still alive till recently. Those 2 children have been schooled by the very best! ❤ ❤ ❤ Kayleigh McAneny, the cute blonde who spoke for the Trump admin when he was in office is one of jfk Jr's and Carolyn's many children.
It was total shock when he died .most handsome guy there could be ..remember the day he was born ....I don't think Jackie had ever met Carolyn??? Wonder if the marriage would have lasted? Still miss him!!!
Yep...the most handsome, gorgeous man ever. I've read every book about him. His secretary, Rose, wrote a great book...lots of funny stuff...how John would answer the phone at the office and take a message for himself!! I still tell people, "he was my boyfriend."...will never forget when his plane was missing...everyone had a broken heart.
No Jackie had been dead when John started dating Carolyn. However, that wedding never would have taken place IF Jackie was still alive especially after that huge fight outside in Washington Square Park on Feb. 25, 1996 where Carolyn was shoving John calling him a ba-tard & it made TV on First Edition. I remember watching it. No way would Jackie have allowed John to marry her. Jackie liked her privacy and to hear & see Carolyn on TV shoving & name calling Jackie's only son that would have done it for Jackie. I even heard John's closest friends state IF Jackie was alive that marriage never would have taken place. I agree.
Tribeca is a relatively quiet area in NYC, I can see why he choice to live there. I've seen Sting and Trudy just walking around, no one else around, just walking from the grocery store.
I think that’s what celebrities like about NYC. I used to see famous people all the time. It was a bit surreal - grocery store, subway, Gabriel Byrne took my cab once. But people usually leave them alone. At least that’s how it was. As long as they avoid hotspots or in a case like this had a lot of media scrutiny.
@@TheSub2rainen I live in a little boring farming town in Utah, about 50 miles north of Salt Lake City .. I'm the same age as the Osmonds, and they lived in Ogden not far from me, and I've never run into them before.. LOL oh well, I wasn't a fan of theirs anyway...
He would go down and play a game of pickup basketball where my ex would play in the park (all a bunch of regular guys). They were shocked when he'd want to play with them and how nice he was. I remember the year he and his wife died. Very sad. ❤
She was one of 2 doubles and he was a fake double, not a kennedy but George Onassis. Truth is stranger than fiction. th-cam.com/video/iksdXUgED5s/w-d-xo.html
Yes. She reminded them that they were Kennedys but she didn't put the same pressure on him that Ethel put on her Kids. No Drugs, Alcohol, Rape Charges, and never cheated on his Bride as far as we know. Can you imagine what it was like when he trew garbage out and the press wanted to see what he threw out.
No Jackie would not let him pursue acting which he was naturally good at. It was not respectable enough in her eyes. She pushed him into law which he was not good at and why it took him multiple times to pass the bar. John had ADD and was dyslexic. He was a natural born actor and many of his drama teachers said he was a natural.
Losing John and his bride was such a tragedy for the Kennedy’s and the nation. 😢 Still feels raw. When he died so soon after Princess Diana, I felt my own mortality.
@@clairelivefreeordie2551 Carolyn’s parents sued the Kennedy estate in 2001 for the wrongful death of their daughters. They reportedly received 15 million dollars.
Certainly not Caroline who is so plain. Caroline unfortunately looks like the Kennedy sisters. All very plain and not pretty. If only she had gotten Jackie’s looks like John did
@@judithryle2113 Agree. That’s why I asked. I believe she meant Carolyn but hey, who knows lol. I hate to talk down about a persons looks but she did get that Kennedy look. She’s hard looking and hasn’t aged well, sorry to say. JFK Jr was definitely a Bouvier, so handsome. Jackie’s father was very handsome too.
How I missed you, my dearest John John! I still cry whenever I think of you. I saw you at your father's funeral and saluting him and have not forgotten you. Oh John, so sad that your life was short.
I was in my 20s in the 80s and I was told he has just arrived on a small plane on top of the roof. He is partying in a private section of the Copacabana. We were friends with the owners so we walked in without waiting on line. Drinks were free as well for me and my sister's. John died same year my dad died within 2 months apart. I also saw Jackie Kennedy in mid 80s walking on Madison Ave wearing the scarf and sun glasses. I need my future husband that day. Life's wonderful let's cherish it with sadness and happiness cause that's what life's all about.
How do you land a "small plane" on a roof? Said roof would have to be the length of maybe 10 football fields. How would it support the weight of even a small plane? A helicopter I could see.
My brother is 10 years younger than John. He met him when he would go to visit friends in NYC - this would have been late 90s. Not sure of all the details or how they met, I think it was on the street somewhere. All I remember is him telling us (the family - I was a teenager at the time) how nice and gracious he was and how nobody could say a mean word about him.
John was such a handsome guy . He was so goodlooking I admit I had a crush on him !! Sowell spoken and athletic. When the plane crashed that fateful day I actually cried I’ll never forget it. He and Carolyn were still so young . He didn’t even get the chance to be a father. Truly the last of the Kennedy Dynasty. Well then Senator Ted Kennedy’s passing in 2009 was the end. They had a lovely enormous loft home his Mother also lived near here. Classy just like John Jr himself . Rest In Peace John & Carolyn 4-Ever Remembered ✝️🕊🕊💐💐🌺🌹🌸✝️💕
Didn't every woman have a crush on JFK Jr?? He was perfectly gorgeous. I grew up right along with him. I still refer to him as "my boyfriend.". My sister called me early in the morning that July and said, "turn on the TV."...😢.
I didn't. I was dreaming of being a career woman.Oh yeah collecting baseball cards with male relative had me thinking of the adventures of being a wife to one of them! Looking at the Wakefields horrid scenario, it is not all fun:(
Quite interesting. A few thoughts: Supermodel Christy Turlington, husband Ed Burns and their kids have lived in that loft for a long time now. 2. You cannot understate how much Carolyn Bessette inspired the style of Carrie Bradshaw when Sex and The City began in 1998. Not as flamboyant but SJP was definitely channeling Carolyn in those early seasons. 3. Carolyn was formerly a "nightclub person" as mentioned; she retained some bad habits from that phase. I won't say more. 4. Even though your floorplan says "NORTH Moore Street", it's actually N ("EN") Moore Street- it's a mystery lost to time why the street is called that- it may have been someone 200+ years ago called Nathaniel Moore. No one knows! There's no Moore Street to be north of, and it's on the south side of the actual street. Anyway, good stuff. Thanks!
John didn’t need to live in a fancy home because he had his entire life. He was an ordinary man through and through and I don’t think he cared much about his affluence.
Dang JFK Jr sure was gorgeous; from the hair to the face and chiseled physique along with seeming to be a quite humble and charming guy as well. What a loss.
A tragic event when they lost their lives in a plane crash. John Kennedy was unpretentious, cultured and a credit to his beautiful mother. Poor Carolyn Bessette hated the publicity, but John handled the reporters well.
Very sad, though she had struggles that were far greater than press pressure, as she had, allegedly, a very serious problem with cocaine...that did not help her adjust to her marriage, mood issues, and new circumstances.
Dadly i do not think their relationship would not have lasted -had they lived. This whole thing is sad. What good is being rich abd married if you are not happy or alive.
They were very happy and in love, like any normal couple only they had to put up with intrusive paps.. No point being rich or happy when your actually dead, unless you know of some rich ghosts.
@@juliedepaolo9971Just read a new biography about her. What you said is not true. I encourage you to read it. She was a warm, wonderful and kind person.
@@GinaHarrisToo Which biography? I would definitely read it. Did you read the auto biography written by her ex model boyfriend? I'm sure she was warm and friendly as she had many friends but I believe she regretted the choices she made.
with all due respect, I don't think the marriage would've lasted. JFKjr was poised for a life in politics, public service... it just seemed their future, had they lived, were not on a unified trajectory.
Unfortunately, we will never know what would have become of their marriage. We can only speculate, since they have passed, and cannot speak for themselves 😢
It was well known they had a tumultuous relationship at best. They fought constantly and were actually separated at the time of their deaths. She had actually gone back to the hunky model boyfriend briefly mentioned in this video. The weekend they died, her sister convinced them to go together to his cousin's wedding as to not take away from his cousin's big day, that is why her sister was with them in the crash.
@@CarolStJohn-ev9ryI agree I frankly thought the long term former girlfriend before actress Darryl Hannah was a better choice she was with him for a long time, seemed to get along well with his mother and sister and especially because she was a actress seemed at ease and comfortable with the press. I think John fell for the blonde and glamorous woman not really taking into account whether she had a qualities to handle being his wife. I think he would have realized his mistake and maybe went back to the former girlfriend. That happens a lot a guy gets caught up in the glamorous woman and dumps the not so exciting but stable girlfriend but realizes his mistake and goes back to the old girlfriend with a much better appreciation of her qualities.
I dined at the restaurant -street level- of that building years ago. Staff told me there is a “ Dumbwaiter” pulley structure that delivers cooked meals to the ninth floor tenants. So they order the food and voila ! It’s delivered via the pulley system. That’s a lovely perk to have. ( I believe Walkers was the name of the restaurant).😊
Carolyn was not traditionally beautiful or pretty.....but she had class, she gave everything she wore a richness to it, which is something way better than just being "pretty". She had QUALITY.
Did you see her in person? Most people who saw her said she was one of the most stunningly beautiful women they had ever seen. Her pictures never captured her beauty.
I agree. She was not beautiful at all but was slim and had a look. John could have had any woman for his wife. I wonder if he would have ever ran for POTUS. A lot was expected of him. A lot of pressure. You could see Jackie in the way he turned out. He was not the brightest student. Had to take lawyer exam several times. What a horrible way to pass. They had several moments of horror with death staring them in the face. Seems strange the way some Kennedys had the lives ended.
She was very pretty but her look was too minimalist for me. Too many all black outfits. A necklace or a pair of earrings (nothing gaudy - simple) once in awhile might have softened /enhanced the at times starkness/harshness of her look.
She did wear a ton of black, which is surprising because preppies usually don’t wear black except for formal occasions and funerals. They usually go for navy instead.@@ellenhartman2662
He failed the bar 2 times. He wasn't attracted to the lives of other family members. He was a polite gentleman and wanted to live his life his way. Carolyn was his main problem. She began cocaine to lose weight and became addicted. Or so it has been said.
I doubt if he would have ever run for the presidency!!! Have you noticed that none of the Kennedy clan has run for office in many many years, because they know better?!?!?!
FYI, it Nathaniel Moore Street. Shortly after they died, I happened to be wandering around Tribeca and people kept asking me where North Moore was. Took a couple of these for me to realize why.
Yes that would have been lovely. Given the morbid fascination with John Jr's celebrity and way he passed, they were likely concerned with beefing up security at Arlington National Cemetery. We'll never know. Just glad Jackie wasn't around to see what became of John Jr passing so tragically, so sad. What a loss for the world, seemed like such a humble great guy. Horrible loss for the Besette family too, losing two daughters/sisters simultaneously. May they all rest.
John was so very genuine... nothing about him was pretencious ... Its sad that Carolyn couldnt have gone w.the flow as John did.. . chatting a bit and moving on. Her personality was not interested at all in interactions ŵ. the press nutsos... its sad ...tragic the love story ended so awfully. ... plus w.her sister too along... the poor mother of Carolyn lost 2 of her 3 daughters that night. What an absolute HORROR.... .
John wanted certain items from his mother's estate on Martha's Vineyard and was arguing about it with Caroline in the weeks before his death. They had already become quite estranged as Caroline disapproved of his wife Carolyn, now this. Why couldn't she just let him have the few things? She had plenty and he didn't ask for much or need much. She ended up inheriting everything including his estate. I wonder if, after his death, she looked at the items he wanted and it burned her.
Michael Jackson was in NYC filming the Wiz in the 1970s. He became acquainted with Caroline and John, Jr. Michael attempted to give Caroline a good night kiss, she withdrew, stating that 'My mother would have a fit if I were to let a black boy kiss me'.😱. It was said that Michael went back to his apartment and cried all night long. There is a bit of snobbishness to her. I wonder how does Caroline feel about her first born being a lesbian. Rose Schlossberg and her 'wife' live in California and operate a garden to table restaurant. I was surprised to find out that she and her husband, Ed Schlossberg , live separately.😱 John,Jr was overheard as saying that 'Caroline will be the last person to help you'.😱😱I hope it did indeed 'burn' her after he was gone. She knew that she could've let him have those items.
It was 1/2 a floor loft, huge open space. Bessette bought an iron table I made and sold at ZONA. Iron twig style... She decided she wanted a pair and went back, there was only one iron Twig..The owner gave her my telephone number, her secretary called left a message, and a month later I delivered it to the door and the secretary gave me a check, that had their address as the name. took the table up and the next month the plane crashed..
Please do share more information and pictures from friends and family. As I have a clear memory of their tragic deaths. I still wish that more information and pictures of them could be released for the public from friends and family. If you have privy to such, please share with your viewers. I loved John and Carolyn as a couple, and I remember the Paparazzi were relentless in their pursuit for pictures. Same if not worse for Princess Diana. 🤦♀️
Interesting how Carolyn and Diana both married very public men but yet expected interest to subside afterwards. Each woman got a really rude awakening, unfortunately. And, what kind of life is it when you're afraid to leave your own apartment because of photographers. I can't imagine living in a fish bowl like that.
Read Carole Radziwill’s book “What Remains”. She was married to John’s first cousin and best friend Anthony (Jackie’s sister’s son). Anthony battled cancer for years and was dying when John and Carolyn perished, a few weeks before Anthony died. Gives insight into who they were in private and how they loved and supported Carole and Anthony through devastating times. Carolyn was wonderful. A true blessing. They were experiencing extreme grief and stress the summer they died as a result of this situation. Anyone who has experienced the devastation of a loved one suffering from cancer will understand what a difference it makes to have loving, supportive people surrounding you. Neither John nor Carolyn shied away from the horrors of what Anthony and Carole were living through. They showed up and cared for Anthony and Carole in the most remarkable ways. A lot of the reporting at the time blamed their distress that summer on marriage problems when the reality was they were watching John’s cousin and closest friend dying and were feeling grief, sadness, anger, stress, etc..
What a loss. What I always learn in situations like these. No matter how much wealth or power you have when it's your time, it's your time. Black or white. Share a smile with someone. They just might need it that day or a kind word. Costs nothing, but can do the most good 💯❤❤❤
There loss was just as impacting as loosing his father and his Uncle Bobby KENNEDY I loved Jackie, s strength her complete life ! I always hoped John Jr. Would have become INVOLVED in political life ! But god took them from us ! I hope to see them all on the streets of gold in heaven!
He was such a beautiful man physically. He escaped that Kennedy big toothed look & took after the Bouviers. He was of an artistic bent, too, like his mother. A shame how some people are hounded because of who they are. Sad what happened to him, his wife & her sister.
She has an ethereal beauty about her and fantastic sense of style. I loved everything she wore. I feel terrible about her and her sister’s death. He should have known better than to fly the plane. He didn’t have enough experience. A tragedy.
I remember John appearing on Larry King talking about his new magazine George..blending politics and the social. Uncommon and yet he perceived a coming relevance. He was full of anticipation and it was infectious. After his tragic end..I realized he had the attention deficit issues that is all too common and yet goes unrecognized. Doubtless one of the reasons his mother did not wish him to pilot his own plane..requiring attention to detail and focus..something he both embraced and also caused lapses when most needed. His mother more than likely knew this better than John. Both Carolyn and John..sorely missed. And our destiny as a nation..missed a few more meaningful steps.
Also, a lot of people do not realize that 45 Kennedy family members have been in plane crashes. Another reason why his mother didn't want him flying solo. 45 plane crashes is not a coincidence.
I worked for a few weeks at a restaurant that many Brown students frequented. He often came in. I treated him as I treated every customer. He was usually smiling unless he was talking about something serious. A few times he came in alone & I was a history nerd. I asked him a question about a conversation he had a few days before. He was informative, wrote down books he recommended, he treated me as an equal.
He was also a great tipper.
Wow, do you remember what book he recommended ?
@@janismartinmooradian1312 jealous aha I wish I had seen him in person. Was he as beautiful as ever?!
@@TH-camr-cu8ls Yes, you could deown in his eyes.
he survived his mother's suffocating pressures because of her image fixation, only to die in the plane crash. He was indeed, the best of the Kennedys.
He was one of the strongest men who ever lived. The pressures on him were unbearable.
Everything that Carolyn wore then, can be seen today. It is completely timeless!
I still want the camel colored pencil skirt and boots ❤
I love that camel and black look as well .... gorgeous!!!
Well she was working as a stylist for Calvin Klein so I'm not surprised.
@@annalisavajda252😊
@jennifer-wh3lw ... I always thought Carolyn had impeccable taste in clothes but then again, she was a sylist for C.K. and she was stunning. Her and John Jr. made a beautiful couple! They were both so very classy and sexy to say the least. Loved their black and white dog Friday.
I can still remember the Time Magazine caption of their wedding photo: "Congratulations, bachelors of the world. You all just moved up one notch."
That is hilarious!!!!
😂😂😂
Electricians working in Jr.'s office bldg said that he was the most humble, nice and down to earth guy around.
Every foxxxxy girl had the hotttts for him look ate JFK EP ON SEINFELD WITH ELAINE
@@MsBackstager He will be forever and forever missed ✝️🙏
He was the most beautiful young man. Such a loss. We will never forget him, or his mother and father.
He was class all the way...
@@BlueGoat682 Can we forget about RKF Jr?
John Kennedy, Jr. was "America's Prince" He was a humble person 'n so full of Life 💔 RIP ☮️🌅✝️
You have been deceived. He is not the little boy in the whitehouse. Look closer. th-cam.com/video/iksdXUgED5s/w-d-xo.html
Just another arrogant kennedy
I worked at 1407 Broadway at Harrys coffee shop. I waited in Carolyn and she was lovely and kind. I still remember what she ordered and she left me a great tip. So sorry how they died they were so nice.
My ex worked at Currants at the same address 😉
Thank you so much for sharing this! I love little memories of people, she sounded so sweet. 🙏❤
What did she order? Did John ever accompany her or come in by himself?
Don't leave us hanging. What did she order?
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My father met him once in Central Park at the Great Lawn..My father said he was a really nice person..
Oooooooo....😊❤❤❤❤❤❤
Cudowny nieśmiały usmiech, piękny sposób poruszania i te...DOBRE OCZY,zakochane i uległe...❤❤❤🎉
Takie zakochane i uległe. To nie spojrzenie zdobywcy...❤❤❤
My GF worked in a high end clothing shop that Carolyn would frequent. She was really cool and extremely funny. One time, she went shopping for pajamas for John and picked out a blue flannel pair with "paintings of the old west" patterns on them. Of course, my GF bought me the identical pair that day.
what a sweet story
John walked past me one day walking his bike. It was on 45th and third avenue. I will never forget he wore white pants one leg rolled up. So unassuming . He walked past me. And I just took it all in.
👍awesome❣
So cool
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I think I would have passed out!! 🤭
I only know one person that saw John on a NYC streetcorner. He said the woman were about to faint being so near him. He was so beautiful in person. I wish I had seen him, and Carolyn was so beautiful. We all copied her style in the mid-90's.
John was the best of the Kennedys.
The only good looking one cause he had Jackie’s bouvier genes. None of the Kennedy girls were pretty and the guys all had those huge teeth well so did the girls
He was I met him once I had a dream
We kissed how silly
He was so beautiful
He was not a Kennedy! th-cam.com/video/iksdXUgED5s/w-d-xo.html
Stop. No he wasn’t.
My mother thought the world of his father and uncle, Robert.
My aunt worked at the Morris Inn restaurant at Notre Dame. John was visiting indiana she took a picture with him. She said he was so nice!!! ☺️
I absolutely love JFK Jr. and Carolyn stories.
It seems like not so long ago when his plane went down.
Ted saying at JFK Jr funeral “ John we hardly knew ye” was a complete understatement.
I hope more videos more stories would come out, but it’s not likely.
They are both still here as well as almost 1000 others who went into Federal Witness Protection to help take down the corrupt crooked deepstate. Heard jfk jr will be our next president and Candace Owen's who is MLK Jr. Grand daughter will be our new V.P. He and jfk Sr were also in witness protection and still alive till recently. Those 2 children have been schooled by the very best! ❤ ❤ ❤ Kayleigh McAneny, the cute blonde who spoke for the Trump admin when he was in office is one of jfk Jr's and Carolyn's many children.
Caroline Bassett's concepts and thoughts are giant baby thoughts
He's still alive 💯all 3 . So much you guys don't seem to know. But you will👍
Do tell. If they are, they must be really secluded and someone brings in their food and supplies for them.@@cherieallen9508
Didn't they crash in the ocean? Why didn't they just jump a few feet before impact?
It was total shock when he died .most handsome guy there could be ..remember the day he was born ....I don't think Jackie had ever met Carolyn??? Wonder if the marriage would have lasted? Still miss him!!!
Carolyn would have never been a good political wife for john
Yep...the most handsome, gorgeous man ever. I've read every book about him. His secretary, Rose, wrote a great book...lots of funny stuff...how John would answer the phone at the office and take a message for himself!! I still tell people, "he was my boyfriend."...will never forget when his plane was missing...everyone had a broken heart.
No Jackie had been dead when John started dating Carolyn. However, that wedding never would have taken place IF Jackie was still alive especially after that huge fight outside in Washington Square Park on Feb. 25, 1996 where Carolyn was shoving John calling him a ba-tard & it made TV on First Edition. I remember watching it. No way would Jackie have allowed John to marry her. Jackie liked her privacy and to hear & see Carolyn on TV shoving & name calling Jackie's only son that would have done it for Jackie. I even heard John's closest friends state IF Jackie was alive that marriage never would have taken place. I agree.
What an beautiful & Everlasting Man. Why oh Why did we have to loose this man. You can’t begin to describe him. Mesmerising.💜✝️⭐️😇💐
We could sure have used his honesty and good will in today's government.
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Tribeca is a relatively quiet area in NYC, I can see why he choice to live there. I've seen Sting and Trudy just walking around, no one else around, just walking from the grocery store.
I think that’s what celebrities like about NYC. I used to see famous people all the time. It was a bit surreal - grocery store, subway, Gabriel Byrne took my cab once. But people usually leave them alone. At least that’s how it was. As long as they avoid hotspots or in a case like this had a lot of media scrutiny.
@@TheSub2rainen I live in a little boring farming town in Utah, about 50 miles north of Salt Lake City .. I'm the same age as the Osmonds, and they lived in Ogden not far from me, and I've never run into them before.. LOL oh well, I wasn't a fan of theirs anyway...
He would go down and play a game of pickup basketball where my ex would play in the park (all a bunch of regular guys). They were shocked when he'd want to play with them and how nice he was. I remember the year he and his wife died. Very sad. ❤
I knew him when I worked for the manhattan das office. Kind,shy young man ,who had so much to live for.rip
Jackie raised him right!
She was one of 2 doubles and he was a fake double, not a kennedy but George Onassis. Truth is stranger than fiction. th-cam.com/video/iksdXUgED5s/w-d-xo.html
Yes. She reminded them that they were Kennedys but she didn't put the same pressure on him that Ethel put on her Kids. No Drugs, Alcohol, Rape Charges, and never cheated on his Bride as far as we know. Can you imagine what it was like when he trew garbage out and the press wanted to see what he threw out.
No Jackie would not let him pursue acting which he was naturally good at. It was not respectable enough in her eyes. She pushed him into law which he was not good at and why it took him multiple times to pass the bar. John had ADD and was dyslexic. He was a natural born actor and many of his drama teachers said he was a natural.
@@BrianDaDiamond-yo5sv you must be trying to use your brain
I knew someone who went to the same law school with John. She met him only once but said he was polite and nice.
Our American Prince ❤ What a humble and good hearted man. He is definitely missed
He could have been our President.
You have been sadly deceived! th-cam.com/video/iksdXUgED5s/w-d-xo.html
@@hattiem.7966without a doubt
You have no idea what you are talking about!
John was my crush, and Carolyn my favourite Capricorn celebrity. Class act .
Yes the capricorm girl had class!
Losing John and his bride was such a tragedy for the Kennedy’s and the nation. 😢 Still feels raw. When he died so soon after Princess Diana, I felt my own mortality.
They are still here!
@@bertaherndonmy god man....
And Gianni Versace being murdered shortly before Diana 😢 it was an odd time.
She didn't deserve him😮😮😮😮
Diana and john junior slept together.. It is Diana who said. That.
John and Carolyn are like a dream. I think about her parents quite a bit. It all seems impossible that it could end like it did.
I know...their pain must be great...and their only surviving child, a girl I believe 🙏
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Carolyn’s parents sued the Kennedy estate in 2001 for the wrongful death of their daughters. They reportedly received 15 million dollars.
Carolyns mother passed a long time ago
Can’t imagine losing two daughters
That is what TV and the media do and what ACTORS DO. th-cam.com/video/iksdXUgED5s/w-d-xo.html
Wow, great photos! Many I have never seen before. ✅
Great job on this. I enjoyed watching this.
Caroline’s style was so New York. And elegant.
Well said
Caroline or Carolyn?
Certainly not Caroline who is so plain. Caroline unfortunately looks like the Kennedy sisters. All very plain and not pretty. If only she had gotten Jackie’s looks like John did
@@judithryle2113 Agree. That’s why I asked. I believe she meant Carolyn but hey, who knows lol. I hate to talk down about a persons looks but she did get that Kennedy look. She’s hard looking and hasn’t aged well, sorry to say. JFK Jr was definitely a Bouvier, so handsome. Jackie’s father was very handsome too.
@@clearsky4003 And?
How I missed you, my dearest John John! I still cry whenever I think of you. I saw you at your father's funeral and saluting him and have not forgotten you. Oh John, so sad that your life was short.
Love this video....what a beautiful, iconic couple. I always get sad when I think of their future, cut short.
A beautiful couple who deserved privacy
I was in my 20s in the 80s and I was told he has just arrived on a small plane on top of the roof. He is partying in a private section of the Copacabana. We were friends with the owners so we walked in without waiting on line. Drinks were free as well for me and my sister's. John died same year my dad died within 2 months apart. I also saw Jackie Kennedy in mid 80s walking on Madison Ave wearing the scarf and sun glasses. I need my future husband that day. Life's wonderful let's cherish it with sadness and happiness cause that's what life's all about.
Loved reading your comment
How do you land a "small plane" on a roof? Said roof would have to be the length of maybe 10 football fields. How would it support the weight of even a small plane? A helicopter I could see.
That picture of Carolyn and John Jr. At 5:58 wearing a backwards baseball cap with a suit look so gorgeous.
My brother is 10 years younger than John. He met him when he would go to visit friends in NYC - this would have been late 90s. Not sure of all the details or how they met, I think it was on the street somewhere. All I remember is him telling us (the family - I was a teenager at the time) how nice and gracious he was and how nobody could say a mean word about him.
Oooooo....nice...❤❤❤
John Jr.❤❤❤❤ Poland😢
I think John resembles the Bouvier's more than the Kennedys .. younger pictures of Jackie. ❤
Much more. He looked like his grandfather Bouvier.
I agree ! Not to be rude but the Kennedy weren’t all that hot looking
@@grl9917and Mader ❤❤
John John ❤❤❤❤😢
Some of his mannerisms, and his silhouette resembles his Dad
John was such a handsome guy . He was so goodlooking I admit I had a crush on him !! Sowell spoken and athletic. When the plane crashed that fateful day I actually cried I’ll never forget it. He and Carolyn were still so young . He didn’t even get the chance to be a father. Truly the last of the Kennedy Dynasty. Well then Senator Ted Kennedy’s passing in 2009 was the end. They had a lovely enormous loft home his Mother also lived near here. Classy just like John Jr himself . Rest In Peace John & Carolyn 4-Ever Remembered ✝️🕊🕊💐💐🌺🌹🌸✝️💕
@@JC_incLauren Bissette. A very accomplished young woman who led an exciting life. I read about her. So very tragic.
Didn't every woman have a crush on JFK Jr?? He was perfectly gorgeous. I grew up right along with him. I still refer to him as "my boyfriend.". My sister called me early in the morning that July and said, "turn on the TV."...😢.
Perfect???
@@juliedepaolo9971 Yes, I'd say most women had a crush on JFK Jr. I know I did. I was devastated when he died.
I didn't. I was dreaming of being a career woman.Oh yeah collecting baseball cards with male relative had me thinking of the adventures of being a wife to one of them! Looking at the Wakefields horrid scenario, it is not all fun:(
Quite interesting. A few thoughts: Supermodel Christy Turlington, husband Ed Burns and their kids have lived in that loft for a long time now. 2. You cannot understate how much Carolyn Bessette inspired the style of Carrie Bradshaw when Sex and The City began in 1998. Not as flamboyant but SJP was definitely channeling Carolyn in those early seasons. 3. Carolyn was formerly a "nightclub person" as mentioned; she retained some bad habits from that phase. I won't say more. 4. Even though your floorplan says "NORTH Moore Street", it's actually N ("EN") Moore Street- it's a mystery lost to time why the street is called that- it may have been someone 200+ years ago called Nathaniel Moore. No one knows! There's no Moore Street to be north of, and it's on the south side of the actual street.
Anyway, good stuff. Thanks!
Truly sad and heartbreaking when people are not allowed to live in peace. Why don’t “celebrities” have rights?
Thanks for this. Brought back memories of them both.
A huge loss when John jr died…way too soon…he had so much to offer😢❤❤❤
The loss of Carolyn & Lauren was a huge loss as well...
John didn’t need to live in a fancy home because he had his entire life. He was an ordinary man through and through and I don’t think he cared much about his affluence.
*he walked by me & my friend's table in Odeon one night by which my immediate thought being: "I GET IT"* 💭🗽🍽
What does that mean? "I get it"?
@@robinwarren8441 *everything written about his handsomeness is true indeed. in person he blows his photographic image away.*
@@RMFeminine4TheWin
Thank you so much for answering.
@@robinwarren8441 *most welcome...happy weekend!!!* 🌞
@@RMFeminine4TheWin Happy weekend to you too.
He was sooooo attractive.
He was. His father was not.
Dang JFK Jr sure was gorgeous; from the hair to the face and chiseled physique along with seeming to be a quite humble and charming guy as well. What a loss.
@@thinkingallowed7042 Yeah I agree, never saw JFK as "movie star" handsome that's for sure. He's got those Kennedy looks like all the Kennedy sisters.
@@thinkingallowed7042His father was even more attractive.
He was the best Kennedy. A kind person in the midst of a pack of wolves
Do you know them? Why such nastiness!
Oh, bullshit. They are mostly a lovely family.
@@Anna-b9w4dPatrick kenndy said he and many of his family members have had addiction problems.
@@ilovemickyandhelove1 And the men all cheated on their wives but Jack always went home to Jackie.
He was a DOUBLE and NOT A KENNEDY th-cam.com/video/iksdXUgED5s/w-d-xo.html
I love Kennedy content too.He seemed so nice.
Realize how timeless those fashions were…too bad their lives ended in tragedy 😢
America was at his peak with John John Kennedy....not like today.
Amen.
We changed that day.
1999 was an incredible time. The day he died was kind of the end of an era. Then it was Y2K and 9/11/2001
@@anniedowling1762 True
He was so handsome 😊
As Asian I think he is handsome too
@@チナ豚は地球のゴミだ glad to know some asians can appreciate us whiteys for our looks lol
loving the kennedy content !
Thank you!! More is on the way!
Excellent narrator, and very informative video
Thank you kindly! I really appreciate it
A tragic event when they lost their lives in a plane crash. John Kennedy was unpretentious, cultured and a credit to his beautiful mother. Poor Carolyn Bessette hated the publicity, but John handled the reporters well.
Very sad, though she had struggles that were far greater than press pressure, as she had, allegedly, a very serious problem with cocaine...that did not help her adjust to her marriage, mood issues, and new circumstances.
Dadly i do not think their relationship would not have lasted -had they lived. This whole thing is sad. What good is being rich abd married if you are not happy or alive.
They were very happy and in love, like any normal couple only they had to put up with intrusive paps..
No point being rich or happy when your actually dead, unless you know of some rich ghosts.
@@Gigi1111Layna Yes they were having marital troubles at the time of their death.
He could have been president if he wanted to. And I would have voted for him.
They were such a stylish beautiful IT couple 😭❤ RIP
Carolyn, the woman who never wore jewelry. She was so elegant. Indescribable!
Yet not pretty.
@@twistoffate4791 No she wasn't pretty, she was 'BEAUTIFUL' , timeless and graceful definitely one of a kind!
There's tons of pics of hers wearing jewellery....
She was absolutely stunning
True. Unpretentious with class. @@desertwitch9608
Human beings like us all. Rest in Paradise Carolyn and John.
...and Lauren...
Yeah i agree justice for lauren bessette
At least his Mother wasn’t alive to see this tragedy unfold. 😢
I read years ago she had premonitions of him dying in
a plane crash.😢
@@hattiem.7966 she made him promise he wouldn’t fly while she was alive. Not sure how it was said. But he is why he waited until after her passing 😮😢
Trueee my mom has alwaya been a fan of his mother and she also daid that. It would truly break her if she has witness his son's tradegy
She was murdered long before! th-cam.com/video/iksdXUgED5s/w-d-xo.html
I enjoyed watching the video. I’ve always enjoyed hearing any news on John Kennedy Jr. He was the most handsome of the Kennedy men, in my opinion.
Me too.❤😢😢
He was an incredibly handsome man. Carolyn never looked happy.
Money can’t buy you happiness, but I’m willing to try for a month or two.
My God the man was just gorgeous, flawless.
I think Carolyn still pined over her ex bf. She still saw him on the side.
@@juliedepaolo9971Just read a new biography about her. What you said is not true. I encourage you to read it. She was a warm, wonderful and kind person.
@@GinaHarrisToo Which biography? I would definitely read it. Did you read the auto biography written by her ex model boyfriend? I'm sure she was warm and friendly as she had many friends but I believe she regretted the choices she made.
with all due respect, I don't think the marriage would've lasted. JFKjr was poised for a life in politics, public service... it just seemed their future, had they lived, were not on a unified trajectory.
Agreed. He could've had anyone in the world. His choice was puzzling.
I agree. She was much too fragile, he would have tired of it and would have ended up with a more robust woman.
Unfortunately, we will never know what would have become of their marriage. We can only speculate, since they have passed, and cannot speak for themselves 😢
It was well known they had a tumultuous relationship at best. They fought constantly and were actually separated at the time of their deaths. She had actually gone back to the hunky model boyfriend briefly mentioned in this video. The weekend they died, her sister convinced them to go together to his cousin's wedding as to not take away from his cousin's big day, that is why her sister was with them in the crash.
@@CarolStJohn-ev9ryI agree I frankly thought the long term former girlfriend before actress Darryl Hannah was a better choice she was with him for a long time, seemed to get along well with his mother and sister and especially because she was a actress seemed at ease and comfortable with the press. I think John fell for the blonde and glamorous woman not really taking into account whether she had a qualities to handle being his wife. I think he would have realized his mistake and maybe went back to the former girlfriend. That happens a lot a guy gets caught up in the glamorous woman and dumps the not so exciting but stable girlfriend but realizes his mistake and goes back to the old girlfriend with a much better appreciation of her qualities.
R.I.P to John and Carolyn 🙏and to Lauren who perished in the plane crash as well.💔 Sad to think what could have been had they lived.
Best looking man ever❤
That's for real❤
Thank you for make this beautiful video about these two beautiful people. She was smart and a private person Carolyn Rose.
John was so good looking that was one gorgeous guy 💓
A very sad loss for all of us…one can only imagine what he would have done for our country❤❤❤
I dined at the restaurant -street level- of that building years ago. Staff told me there is a “ Dumbwaiter” pulley structure that delivers cooked meals to the ninth floor tenants. So they order the food and voila ! It’s delivered via the pulley system. That’s a lovely perk to have. ( I believe Walkers was the name of the restaurant).😊
Carolyn was not traditionally beautiful or pretty.....but she had class, she gave everything she wore a richness to it, which is something way better than just being "pretty". She had QUALITY.
Did you see her in person? Most people who saw her said she was one of the most stunningly beautiful women they had ever seen. Her pictures never captured her beauty.
I agree. She was not beautiful at all but was slim and had a look. John could have had any woman for his wife. I wonder if he would have ever ran for POTUS. A lot was expected of him. A lot of pressure. You could see Jackie in the way he turned out. He was not the brightest student. Had to take lawyer exam several times.
What a horrible way to pass. They had several moments of horror with death staring them in the face. Seems strange the way some Kennedys had the lives ended.
She was very pretty but her look was too minimalist for me. Too many all black outfits. A necklace or a pair of earrings (nothing gaudy - simple) once in awhile might have softened /enhanced the at times starkness/harshness of her look.
She did wear a ton of black, which is surprising because preppies usually don’t wear black except for formal occasions and funerals. They usually go for navy instead.@@ellenhartman2662
That long nose of hers ruined her looks. Her sister Lauren was much prettier
If only he was still here with his wife I think he would have made a great run for the presidency for his generation RIP
I agree. He really seemed level headed.
He would have won on the women's votes alone!
That is why he was eliminated
He failed the bar 2 times. He wasn't attracted to the lives of other family members. He was a polite gentleman and wanted to live his life his way. Carolyn was his main problem. She began cocaine to lose weight and became addicted. Or so it has been said.
I doubt if he would have ever run for the presidency!!! Have you noticed that none of the Kennedy clan has run for office in many many years, because they know better?!?!?!
Very well done. Ty
Thank you so much!
FYI, it Nathaniel Moore Street. Shortly after they died, I happened to be wandering around Tribeca and people kept asking me where North Moore was. Took a couple of these for me to realize why.
I always thought he should've been laid to rest alongside his mother and father.
Yes that would have been lovely. Given the morbid fascination with John Jr's celebrity and way he passed, they were likely concerned with beefing up security at Arlington National Cemetery. We'll never know. Just glad Jackie wasn't around to see what became of John Jr passing so tragically, so sad. What a loss for the world, seemed like such a humble great guy. Horrible loss for the Besette family too, losing two daughters/sisters simultaneously. May they all rest.
In the new biography about Carolyn, the families agreed they should be laid to rest at sea to avoid the mobs bothering their graves.
@@GinaHarrisTooconvenient
Carolyn sounds so high maintenance- poor John. He was, by all reports, a very humble, agreeable guy. He deserved better.
You Cant make a judgement about what other people like .they were happy!!!
Except he loved her, he married her. He knew all about her, you know nothing
Really excellent video!
John John was always humble and appreciated what his upbringing gave him in life. A class act. Too bad prince sparrey doesn't have the same qualities.
He was so handsome & she was naturally elegant with a stately demeanor. Looked great no matter what she wore. What a striking couple.
My favorite channel has done it again. I love this video. So well done 👏.
John was so very genuine... nothing about him was pretencious ... Its sad that Carolyn couldnt have gone w.the flow as John did.. . chatting a bit and moving on. Her personality was not interested at all in interactions ŵ. the press nutsos... its sad ...tragic the love story ended so awfully. ... plus w.her sister too along... the poor mother of Carolyn lost 2 of her 3 daughters that night. What an absolute HORROR.... .
She knew she was marrying such a famous person. I would have thought she would have shied away from him.
Thank you for sharing this story.
Thank you for listening!
@@CulturedElegance You are welcome.
Yes, John Jr had his magazine George! I use to buy his magazine and it was nice.
I remember when John was on the cover of People magazine for "" sexiest man alive"" good grief,,, I can see why!!
John wanted certain items from his mother's estate on Martha's Vineyard and was arguing about it with Caroline in the weeks before his death. They had already become quite estranged as Caroline disapproved of his wife Carolyn, now this. Why couldn't she just let him have the few things? She had plenty and he didn't ask for much or need much. She ended up inheriting everything including his estate. I wonder if, after his death, she looked at the items he wanted and it burned her.
I don’t respect Caroline at all. John seemed so polite and a truly good person.
@@rhondablack8079 She lacks even the tiniest bit of the charisma and charm that John had. And the more I learn about her the more I agree with you.
A lesson for us all.. some things don't warrant an argument
Michael Jackson was in NYC filming the Wiz in the 1970s. He became acquainted with Caroline and John, Jr.
Michael attempted to give Caroline a good night kiss, she withdrew, stating that 'My mother would have a fit if I were to let a black boy kiss me'.😱. It was said that Michael went back to his apartment and cried all night long.
There is a bit of snobbishness to her.
I wonder how does Caroline feel about her first born being a lesbian. Rose Schlossberg and her 'wife' live in California and operate a garden to table restaurant.
I was surprised to find out that she and her husband, Ed Schlossberg , live separately.😱
John,Jr was overheard as saying that 'Caroline will be the last person to help you'.😱😱I hope it did indeed 'burn' her after he was gone. She knew that she could've let him have those items.
@@wintercameRead what I just posted about Caroline. Shocking.😮
It’s funny how JFK Jr. was so active and Carolyn was so fit. How did she stay fit if she didn’t leave her apt? I guess she barely ate
High metabolism.
It was 1/2 a floor loft, huge open space. Bessette bought an iron table I made and sold at ZONA. Iron twig style... She decided she wanted a pair and went back, there was only one iron Twig..The owner gave her my telephone number, her secretary called left a message, and a month later I delivered it to the door and the secretary gave me a check, that had their address as the name. took the table up and the next month the plane crashed..
WOW, an amazing story. Thank you for sharing this. I love little tidbit stories about people. She really had incredible style.
Please do share more information and pictures from friends and family. As I have a clear memory of their tragic deaths. I still wish that more information and pictures of them could be released for the public from friends and family. If you have privy to such, please share with your viewers. I loved John and Carolyn as a couple, and I remember the Paparazzi were relentless in their pursuit for pictures. Same if not worse for Princess Diana. 🤦♀️
Interesting how Carolyn and Diana both married very public men but yet expected interest to subside afterwards. Each woman got a really rude awakening, unfortunately. And, what kind of life is it when you're afraid to leave your own apartment because of photographers. I can't imagine living in a fish bowl like that.
Read Carole Radziwill’s book “What Remains”. She was married to John’s first cousin and best friend Anthony (Jackie’s sister’s son). Anthony battled cancer for years and was dying when John and Carolyn perished, a few weeks before Anthony died. Gives insight into who they were in private and how they loved and supported Carole and Anthony through devastating times. Carolyn was wonderful. A true blessing. They were experiencing extreme grief and stress the summer they died as a result of this situation. Anyone who has experienced the devastation of a loved one suffering from cancer will understand what a difference it makes to have loving, supportive people surrounding you. Neither John nor Carolyn shied away from the horrors of what Anthony and Carole were living through. They showed up and cared for Anthony and Carole in the most remarkable ways. A lot of the reporting at the time blamed their distress that summer on marriage problems when the reality was they were watching John’s cousin and closest friend dying and were feeling grief, sadness, anger, stress, etc..
What a loss. What I always learn in situations like these. No matter how much wealth or power you have when it's your time, it's your time. Black or white. Share a smile with someone. They just might need it that day or a kind word. Costs nothing, but can do the most good 💯❤❤❤
John was so humble! Handsome and smart. Carolyn did not appreciate what she had.
He was Americas prince. 👏🏾
Thank you for sharing. ✌️
So classy. We miss them so.
Why didn't they get personal bodyguards if Carolyn was afraid to leave the apt?
This is an excellent question! More security may have helped, who knows.
I enjoyed this.
I can cry any day I remember him.
There loss was just as impacting as loosing his father and his Uncle Bobby KENNEDY I loved Jackie, s strength her complete life ! I always hoped John Jr. Would have become INVOLVED in political life ! But god took them from us ! I hope to see them all on the streets of gold in heaven!
Thank You!
Miss him and Carolyn dearly. Gorgeous couple. Admire him ❤️😍 so much. Very smart.😊😊😊❤❤❤. AlohafromKauaiHawaii
nice video. i always wondered what their apt looked like. rip carolyn, john and lauren.
He was such a beautiful man physically. He escaped that Kennedy big toothed look & took after the Bouviers. He was of an artistic bent, too, like his mother. A shame how some people are hounded because of who they are. Sad what happened to him, his wife & her sister.
The giant Kennedy teeth seemed to be a dominant gene!
Besides being extremely intelligent, well-read, and cultured, his father was extremely handsome-with the most charming smile.
Weird Lady Diana ❤died too😅same time frame 😢
I remember both accidents. The world knew of the accidents and had to wait for the outcome. I was sure that they both would survive.
I never felt this was an apartment to bring a family home too & he desperately wanted children!!
Her poor Mothet lost 2 daughters that day
That’s right. That’s gotten lost in the telling of this tragedy
Handsome guy😍❤
She has an ethereal beauty about her and fantastic sense of style. I loved everything she wore. I feel terrible about her and her sister’s death. He should have known better than to fly the plane. He didn’t have enough experience. A tragedy.
The pilot friend he usually flew with him was on vacation.Carolyn's sister was late leaving work so the plane took off late.
I remember John appearing on Larry King talking about his new magazine George..blending politics and the social. Uncommon and yet he perceived a coming relevance. He was full of anticipation and it was infectious.
After his tragic end..I realized he had the attention deficit issues that is all too common and yet goes unrecognized. Doubtless one of the reasons his mother did not wish him to pilot his own plane..requiring attention to detail and focus..something he both embraced and also caused lapses when most needed. His mother more than likely knew this better than John.
Both Carolyn and John..sorely missed. And our destiny as a nation..missed a few more meaningful steps.
Also, a lot of people do not realize that 45 Kennedy family members have been in plane crashes. Another reason why his mother didn't want him flying solo. 45 plane crashes is not a coincidence.