WHY does EVERYONE Hate TRAXXAS?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ค. 2022
- In this episode of 10th Scale Garage, we take a look at the brand that everyone loves to hate, Traxxas. We explore the history of firsts, from the bandit and the Nitro Hawk, all the way up to the current controversy of the Sledge and Arrma Kraton. Are they really hobby grade? Are they only meant for beginners? What's with all the upgrade parts? Are they worth your money? We even tale a look at their boats like the Spartan and M41 widebody. Heck, we even touch on their shortly lived Drone, the Aton. Am I wrong about Traxxas? Do they deserve their reputation? Let me know!
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The problem is people feel like they have to pick a side or team, they all have good and bad models. Good and bad aspects from all brands. Just buy what makes you happy and you like 👍
For me you don't have to stick to one brand if you want a rc car go ahead and buy it
100%.
No, not so much in my book, trax ass is just a garbage company.
They flood the market with crap, (garbage electronics, brittle plastics, gimick over substance)
They are as proprietory as they can be, they are sue happy. (They own the word MAXX? I think not.)
There cars are good enough to move for a battery, but I've never seen one win anything but drag racing one time.
Garbage company selling mediocre junk.
That's why I won't even think about a trax ass.
This is very true. I would never stick to one brand, why limit yourself there is so many options out there. As you said rc is all about having fun, buy whatever puts a big smile on your face. As others have said every brand have great products and bad ones.
Buy them all!! That’s my motto
I say: Buy whatever brand makes YOU the happiest. I own several of each brand: Arrma, Traxxas, Redcat, Tamiya, & Kyosho to name a few, and I even own some ZD Racing RCs; ALL of them put miles of smiles on my face for different reasons and I love, break, and repair all my cars. They ALL make great cars, and they ALL make some junk vehicles. Go with whatever YOU can afford and makes YOU happy, but don't listen to the haters. All of that said.... When you're the big boy at the top, everyone tries to knock you down to be the new king.
33 years in the hobby. Wrote for a major publication, hosted multiple events, ran a hobby shop owned nearly every single brand out there.
I've seen and watched the evolution of traxxas since the fiero and trx10 bullet. I've raced competitive with the blue Eagle ls2, the trx 1, and srt. I've raced a slash, I've beat the daylights out of nearly every single model.
Availability of parts is a huge attraction, as is the 30 model memory with the tqi.
There's good and bad in everything, in every hobby. Traxxas outweighs the bad with good by a huge margin. Huge.
Super true, I feel like this guy is just rambling about only the bad things. I own a traxxas vehicle and really enjoy it.
It’s not really hard to get parts for anything made today with the internet. I live in Portland Oregon we have Tammie’s hobbies a huge hobby shop. I wouldn’t go there for parts. It’s all on the web with the best prices, free shipping delivered to your doorstep in 4-5 days. “Parts availability” doesn’t go that far when you can get anything on the web. Traxxas is for kids since they left racing in 94-95 when they couldn’t beat associated and losi. Traxxas are plastic hobby grade toys. Nothing bad about that. They’re just not a racing brand so racing guys will speak poorly of them. Traxxas has their place and that’s a great place, rtr easy entry and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Your full of crap
Lmao nah it’s all plastic junk.
Arrma products are always on backorder it seems lol. Always waiting months of stupid things. Like right now, the steering servo is on backorder for the 1/18 grom. Like come on ...
My problem with Traxxas is the whole thing about the lawsuits against other brands like HPI and Arrma. They were just trying to bankrupt their competitors rather than just making better products and becoming the top brand in a fair way. They are just big bullies in the industry and I won't buy their products for that reason. Having said that I do still have a Slash that I bought before I knew what they were like but it's had so many mods that it's only about 30% Traxxas now anyway!
That's not true if the other companies would just build their own shit and stop copying what Traxxas has developed
Traxxas is in top because of their customers support and part support and not discontinuing products in 2 months making models obsolete
@@getmoney12358 Well what Traxxas did was to put patents on designs like inboard shocks that had been around for years before Traxxas did it but not patented by anyone. Traxxas then sued other companies for using this design even though they themselves had not invented it. They did this for a load of RC car features that had been around for years but nobody had thought to patent. They are just using their power as a big company to try to ruin the opposition financially. I will never forgive them for bankrupting HPI.
@@PeteWylieRC exactly right, they almost bankrupt arrma too , I almost got stuck with rcs I couldn't get parts for after just getting back into the hobby. I think they took HPI out over the waterproof receiver box. Lol . Thing that's messed up is they copied team associated rc10 , which besides the jxr2 was only race buggy . It was called bullet
@@paulclancy2404 Yeah who'd have thought about putting the receiver in a waterproof box? Oh yeah, everyone!
Started in my late 40's in the hobby and was directed to a 2wd Slash and never regretted it. Pretty rugged and fairly customizable and upgradable easily. I have a TA RC10B4.2 and have put some Traxxas parts on it because I like them better than the TA parts. IDK I like being able to get parts easily and are available. Plus not knowing much from the get go it was very user friendly and I changed the electronics to a more universal as I went along
I agree with that.
I have a 2wd slash that I dump over a grand into. Now it’s a no prep drag car. Go figure.
As far as a product line, I think there are some good models, I have a UDR that I'm pretty happy with. But as a company, it's chock full of the same proprietary, litigious, corporate bullshit as Horizon Hobby (which is killing many legendary brands all on it's own)
But honestly, social media has just killed most of the joy right out of this hobby, and I'm a 38 year veteran. Marketing, sales, promotion, is all done on TH-cam, Facebook, or Instagram, and it 's all about the clicks, and everybody is a fucking expert. Traxxas fans are particularly toxic online, and I'm not sure why, could be because most of them have never built a kit, or don't have a clue how to fix their own crap
I mostly see toxic traxxas haters ironically and level of skill is irrelevant to me as we all had to learn it, both sound like elitism which I expect from hipsters/fanboys. I prefer traxxas due to their selection and creativity with design and features but I have never felt the need to bash other brands and find such things childish.
I own all traxxas I do all the work on all my cars I don’t hate on other brands I just prefer traxxas but I would love to get some other brands to try out
Yeah....sounds like your the problem.
@@DEENRC 😂
The parts supply is what draws me to traxxas I have a hpi baja 5b that has absolutely pissed me off that the company has gone down hill and I have a $2000 rc I can't use because of parts supply issuse and now only can pay huge retail for parts because of there rarity so Im going back to traxxas
The reason HPI went downhill is because you guessed it, Traxxas sued them and bankrupt them. Same they sued Arrma because the horizontal shock system, and both times they won and bankrupt company's. That's also the reason I stick with HPI and Arrma because they are great vehicles, and I rather not bring my money towards a company that's trying to destroy other brands that I love.
@@feki122 guess that traxxas sueing the other brands worked for them because its has forced me back to traxxas brand but I see hpi is coming back finally they have new rc's available again and some baja parts are back
When I was a kid, I watched traxxas videos and dreamed about an rc car. As soon as I turned 10, my parents bought me an hpi bullet flux. I think I’ve never been so happy, it was beautiful, and fast. Sadly, it was not as durable as what I thought. I think that during the 10 years I’ve owned it, it went through 10 diffs, and the same amount of a arms… As a teen, I barely had no money to fix these things, and parts were so hard to find and expensive.
2 years ago, for my 18th birthday, I bought myself a slash ultimate while visiting Texas with my parents. The difference with the hpi Just shocked me, being able to find cheap parts anywhere, being stronger than the hpi with metal parts and not having disposable diffs… for me traxxas is the perfect balance of performance and durability, and when you compare what you spend in spare parts in other brands, the price is not that high, but that’s just from my point of view.
I totally agree with you on almost all these points. The Nero story is important to the industry. We were all robbed on that one
A friend of mine bought a Nero. First time I looked at it I knew there would be lawsuits from Big T. Nice truck though
Traxxas hurt the hobby so bad with their lawsuits. Had to get rid of my hpi stuff. Their self righting system guarantees you will be replacing gears. What ever makes one happy.
Traxxas just doesn't do it for me.
Very cool channel you have created.
@@rcjunkie260 I agree on both points bro. The lawsuits hurt everyone especially us enthusiasts . And the self righting option is a great way to order new drivetrain parts
@@norcalrc I just read a article on redit. Traxxass sued HBO over the max in HBO Max. They also sued maclaren over the name of their 2s esc MMax. Traxxas is a bunch of Traxxas Texas business bullies are trying to destroy all competition so their is only traxxas. And don't forget they also sued Tamya, Hobbieco and others.
@@norcalrc I still don't understand why one can't walk over to the flipped rc and turn it over. Too far don't go that far, maybe don't drive so hard at a distance? This might hurt some feelings learn how to drive your rc and keep the wheels down!(sorry)I really enjoyed my hpi blitz flux one tough and fast good handling truck. Until parts dissapeared and the ones I could find 2 to 3 times the price.
My X-Maxx and TRX4/TRX6 rigs are some of my favorites! Like them or hate them they have helped grow the RC world into what it is today.
Yeah the steering servo in the xmaxx made me a fan for life too!!
That would be Tamiya… Traxxas is the Toys R Us of RC.
Lmao! 😂@@RingLeaderElon
I'd say a big reason people dislike Traxxas is them suing other RC companies like HPI and arrma (particularly when it's over patents that shouldn't have been granted to traxxas in the first place). It became obvious that traxxas didn't want to compete but instead use their size to muscle the competition out of the room.
If you've been in the hobby for a while you can see the results of their actions by the lack of brand diversity you see at your local hobby shop, and compare it to how it was around 10 years ago.
And in some cases it's directly impacted people who own cars made by the companies who got sued. I mean, I'm not going to say that the reason I can't easily get parts for my HPI car is all traxxas fault (HPI had their own issues before then), but they sure didn't help.
Just like Kev Talbot says.....Whatever car puts the biggest smile on your face , is the correct one for ya.
Beautifully said and I completely agree. Whatever makes anyone smile and enjoy this or any hobby is the only thing that matters. Each unto their own.
I think the reason Traxxas has a bad name is because they have a long history. In the past especially with their nitro vehicles they made them to very substandard standards. And then they would nickel and dime you to death to get the parts fixed. Or they were put in junk parts in the vehicle knowing that you have to go out and buy the upgraded parts or go broke buying the same parts over and over and over and over again. And then also they didn’t perform well or anything. They didn’t have the best bashers they didn’t have racers that were worth a darn. That said I think the newest generation of Traxxas are the best They have ever been.
Great video. I only have traxxas but only been in hobby for 3 years. I am currently saving for an Infraction. Ive seen pros and cons on all brands. Just like ford and chevy. Just get what makes you happy. Great video. 👊👊
If traxxas was a bit more “affordable” they would get so much less hate. I’m an old school tamiya and kyosho guy but traxxas has always had a place in my heart since my first revo. Traxxas makes some awesome vehicles especially for people that want an RTR thats fairly reliable easy to use and has many aftermarket parts
I have Kyosho, Arrma, Traxxas, Latrax, Haiboxing, Wltoys, Dromida and HPI racing. They all offer something I like. For me it's not about brand loyalty but rather how much fun I can have.
i dont like how exclusive they try to be, like how their wheels have the little spokes on the hexes so they only fit on traxxas hexes, or their connectors, but worst of all how much of a bully they are in the legal world. they will sue anyone just because they have the money to
Most of my fleet is Traxxas and I've gotten used to the hate that's out here haha. I've had a few Arrma vehicles (3s Granite, 3s Typhon, 3s Vorteks and TLR Tuned Typhon) and most of that experience hasn't been great. What I appreciate the most about Traxxas is something you already mentioned and it's the parts support. Also, as you mentioned, I'm not one who is big into tinkering so my vehicles are going to stay mostly stock. Proprietary electronics do piss me off a bit though lol
I too have different brands of rcs..sixteenth in total. I just keep my Traxxas electronics Traxxas but upgrade with Tekno, RPM ect. Happy Rcing!
I consider “Walmart brand” one of the 16 or so brands I have as well
I’ve been wanting a slash for the longest time, I finally got one. Yeah there’s the senton and other trucks but the slash was the first I saw. And I love it. I’m very happy I got it, and I see there’s a lot of aftermarket parts so that’s a big part of why I wanted it. I do agree about the batteries, I haven’t upgraded the battery yet because I know when I go brushless im gonna use a different connector. Also (at least with my car) the charger that was included was a 12v car plug which I still think is odd. Thankfully my friend gave me a stampede along with a aftermarket house plug charger
I’m with you. I either change the plugs or run adapters.
The Slash us a great rig. I just keep my Traxxas rigs the same. It's easier for me. Happy Rcing!
The car plug upset me when I bought my 2wd slash but luckily I had bought a prophet charger and extra battery because I knew I wanted to run it a lot and I swapped from the stock receiver to a rc4gs to get the full capability of it
Just do what Kevin Talbot does and change the battery plugs...
I own all different brands of RC’s but i absolutely love my maxx v2.Easy to fix parts easy to find and tough as nails.
For me a beginner in the RC i bought a Hoss. It was used by a young 14yo kid. Never maintained. I expected it to have issues but kinda wanted it to, so I could learn to wrench on it. It's been over a year now and I've been able to upgrade and replace everything that needed to be to keep the truck running smooth. Although I understand the hate for the "brand" it seems to be a good truck. Reliable, fun, and tuff. Buy what makes you smile. Great vid.
Nice! Thanks for watching
Simple answer Arrma makes a better product and is cheaper, but I race and buy high end kits so I don't really care what people bash around , just have fun doing what u want with rc
Traxxas got big by being the first company to main stream ready to run RC‘s. The problem is they still make the same garbage they did when they originally came out. I bought a Traxxas sledgestill the same garbage quality as the original T-max I had 15 years ago. For the price you think they could’ve at least thrown a decent set of electronics I haven’t used a controller with this much delay since I was running a.m. radios in the 80s. Servo ridiculously slow and underpowered which doesn’t make a difference because it’s bolted into a plastic case so if you change it it just flexes the battery tray it’s bolted to. Bottom line they just make trash and have some of the worst electronics on the market. I really did try to like Traxxas mainly just because they’re one of the only companies that hasn’t sold out to Horizon. But The fit and finish quality of the plastic and metal is just garbage it’s right on the same line with WL toys actually I take that back even some of their shit is built better.
I love my traxxas, the tenth scale 4x4 cars (slash stampede etc) are basically rc car lego. So many interchageable parts.
Agreed
I have a Redcat shredder and the back left driveshaft pops out all the time. Do you know of a fix for this?
I just personally dont feel like i get the full “hobby grade” experience of rc with Traxxas vehicles. But i dont have any negative feelings towards them. I would like to see them jump into the actual racing scene though.
Hi, I just found your channel by accident, and listened with interest to your talk about Traxxas, I totally agree with everything that you say. I have had all the main, and obscure Rc’s throughout my years and to be totally honest, Traxxas is my “go to” Rc these days.
I know how companies work, and as you said the ecosystem of Traxxas is very similar to Apple, people want a plug and play life, somewhere you can get parts for all their ‘toys’ and I get it, I really do.
I am 66 this year and for the past 40 of them I have been in and out of the hobby in some form or another, it gets into your blood, and i keep coming back to it, and the easiest way for me is Traxxas … I have a couple of other brands, but getting parts when they break, is not easy.
Anyhoo….. love the channel, I am away now to watch more of your vids…. You gained another subscriber today for your honest and up front talk. Cheers from sunny Scotland.
Cheers! I’m glad you’re here!
Perfectly explained. I have both Traxxas and Arrma with a few others, they all have their own character and every time I use them I have the biggest grin on my face, it’s pure enjoyment.
You have a Wonderful channel, straight talking no nonsense say it how it is approach, much appreciated.
In my experience the Slash has been the most fun car I have had. I've raced an RC10 and Ultima and owned a dozen other models, but the Slash is the most fun and most versatile...and parts support is FAR better than any other brand !!.. including the aftermarket. True, they really aren't for racing, except spec racing -- like Slash spec racing, which is a ball - but for everything else they are great.
This is a change of pace from the regular content but I enjoyed it, it seems like you saw a tweet or post on social media and thought “$&@? This I’m sick of the BS time to set the record strait” haha great video 😄👍🏻
I tend to agree with most everything said, but...... I have had zero luck with traxxas brushless systems, several cars that overheat within minutes. I've tried running 2s instead of 3s, didn't help. Fans didn't help. All of my traxxas cars have hobbywing electronics now.
When did they bring out the high low transmission?
Traxxas plastics are second to none, they have modern chassis design in the x-maxx and maxx that are well beyond anything else on the market and their parts are cheap compared to others. However their electronics are pretty tame and not up to scratch even if they are pretty feature rich. And over here in the UK their warranty is junk, it is often 'voided' for abitrary reasons and is sketchy at best when concerning UK consumer rights, oh and proprietary shit. Its a nightmare and costly to buy out of the 'walled garden' if you arent happy with it. You've hit on 99% of this and Im impressed, its hard not to see a little bias in most of these types of videos and I think you've done a good job at being fair
Agreed on all points. My traxxas crawlers compared to other brands, I can say the quality is tops. The extra money I spent is money well spent. I have had no issues with them
great video...hey bud can you point me in the direction of where u got the green canoe on ur trx4 defender any help is greatly appreciated..
I 3D printed it. I have like 7 of them. Haha.
@@10thScaleGarage can i buy one?
Well said. I have 5 different crawler brands in the stable. I like them all. But I’ve got to say, if I had to only keep one, it would be the Traxxas. It’s not the best but it certainly is the most dependable and best “all around/overall” truck.
My TRX4 has never broken. My other cars break all the time.
Traxxas maybe be primarily RTR. However, there is nothing stopping you from building your own Traxxas RC from scratch. They provide detailed exploded diagrams that not only include part numbers but also specs on some of the hardware. I prefer to build it as it allows me to upgrade / customize it and learn the important assembly / disassembly skills needed to fix it quickly.
As an avid electronics worker, the properietarity of it all is frown worthy. Personally, I rewired and re-soldered most of the connections on my decade old stampede so I could run my own custom electronics in it. The Traxxas Titan 12t is the pinnacle of planned obsolescence . It’s just an RS-550S with worse thermal properties (so that it wears out faster) and is extremely inefficient.
I prefer the traxxas charging system being so simple while having features like phone app support though if I wasn't satisfied with their stock esc I may feel differently. Course brushed motors are old tech but they still have their place and going brushless with traxxas is fairly cheap with their trade in program. I upgraded my 4-tec 2.0 ford gt to vxl, still have my ford mustang brushed as its mostly a loaner I only drive occasionally but still enjoy driving.
Hey man excellent review! What was that channel name that you said at 6:44? Sounded like you said "scale signs" but I can't find a channel by that name
Great vid and great points there! The greatest rc stuff is the one you drive and enjoy driving. Have fun driving and/or wrenching or give it to the guy who enjoys wrenching to do it for ya. There is no wrong way of having fun with an rc. And this is what this hobby's all about.
Dude, Traxxas has earned their reputation as one of the best companies in RC! Let's be honest there are plenty of things to be critical about but nice to see you present "the other side of the coin". I think the biggest criticism of Traxxas though is their Corporate policies, especially their 'litigious tendencies' (they like to sue people 🙄). Protecting your intellectual property is one thing but these guys are ridiculous. I have to say though, this criticism that the Sledge is a clone of the Kraton is total bullshit! The Truggy design has been around for years so, if the Sledge is guilty of copyright infringements, then so is just about every 1/8 scale truggy. I mean, there is only so much you can do with this design. And the differences between the two is enough that saying the Traxxas is a clone is just not true (trying to be nice here, lol). Great video, loved your take on all things Traxxas 👍
“I’d have enough money to fix my Arrmas” I lol’d at that one
Love my xmaxx, love my limitless, love my udr, love my Lmt sod, love my kraton,outcast,notorious. Absolutely love my infraction and felony. And my 1/10 touring racer.About to get the sledge. So yeh I don’t care what it is as long as I can have fun with it.
Brilliant as always. The Beard is looking good. Thanks for sharing. Catch ya on the flip side. John
Best thing about Traxxas is that if you need a part, you can find it almost anywhere even years down the line. I’ve had many cars I can’t run anymore because I can’t find parts as it was discontinued. With Traxxas that doesn’t happen.
The only weakness in Traxxas is their off road vehicles are not competitive with Losi, TA, or some other race brands due to the very old designs. But they are so popular that you CAN find Slash-only races all over.
We went to a Traxxas dealer just to see what they had. My dad has a 12 year old RedCat nitro buggy that hasn't been run in like 11 years (sister ran over his radio). They guy who works at Traxxas picked the parts we needed, and told us how to set it up. Boy oh boy, seeing them old servos move was something to see. Can't wait to slap a glow plug in it and get some fuel in that car. I wonder how many more Traxxas parts we can put on that old RedCat. 😅
My son & I love our Traxxas stuff. They're fun, easy to work on, easy to get parts to repair or upgrade. Being RTR is a plus when you don't have time to build from scratch, then figure out electronics & the proper controller, etc. Those costs add up quick. Is why I gave up on Tamiya. The super clod buster I'm building, slowly, isn't even from Tamiya. Every part has been ordered through JConcepts or CPE so that it's all the upgraded aluminum parts from frame, to axels, 4 links, gears & bearings. A waterproof Hobbywing dual motor ESC. The rest of the electronics are all Traxxas.
Well said, get what makes you happy and you have the most fun. Some of the best times come from them little banggood specials. I seen you guys do allot, and it was a blast watching and eventually me getting one or two of them you showed.
Awesome!! That’s great to hear!
@@10thScaleGarage Thanks for you guys always providing a great view in rcing. Love to see you guys view this one: UDIRC 1608/1608 PRO RC Car Drift Brushed/Brushless RTR 1/16. I am waiting on it to arrive from Banggood at the moment.
"Just shove your doodle into the dingus, press the button and go! "
Pure gold 🤣🤣
I own a lot of Arma and one Traxxas. The Traxxas is biult very well and I've hardly had to do anything to it. The Arma's keep me pretty busy but the better I get at driving them the more its about performance upgrades and maintenance than constant repair. I think both brands are very good. These two companies definitely seem to take different approaches to design with makes the hobby more diverse. I personally really enjoy driving both brands.
Great video,
I love my Traxxas Aton drones. The electronic parts for it seems non existent.
Traxxas no longer carries the motherboards, GPS modules, etc..
I had a big gap in my RC days from the early 90’s to around 2001. Saw a guy running a RC monster truck across a parking lot and the damn thing shifted gears! So, I had to go see. Obviously, it was a T-max and I was hooked again.
I used to frown upon RTR style RC. If you couldn’t build it, you didn’t deserve to play.
However, I think it’s great Traxxas has gotten so many people into the hobby.
Hating on stuff is what i did when I was a 10 - 12 year kid. Some people grow out of it early, some people just never grow out of it. I tend to stay away from those who are so loyal to a brand and hate on another for no reason other than they got on that same sinking ship. They tend to be a bunch of narcissists too. From my experience, they don't just act this way with RC cars. It's everything in life. Heaven forbid you to bring up politics with those people you won't make back home alive, lol. Subscribed. Great video. O'doyle rules!
Bought a 2nd hand Traxxas Slash for my son to learn to race. In our second year of racing with myself racing the adult class using the same truck, Its had some mods since I got it and a gradual rebuild front to rear over the time. Best fun we have together and it doesn't matter what brand car you have, they all look the same on their roof.
Hi, There is another reason people where hating Traxxas during those law suits, and that is Traxxas stopped supplying hobby shops with Traxxas parts. That was when Traxxas sold parts only through the Traxxas web site.
Just got my first r/c truck at 53, I've always been a fly guy but an incredible on road/off road r/c racing track was built in my town so I picked one up. After taking a good long look at my options I went with the Arrma Vorteks and love it. I didn't go with the Arrma because I "hate" Traxxas though, I just liked the Vorteks features and wanted to try something different.
Love the vorteks
I have a 10 y/o 1/16th Slash and it still runs great. In fact, I ran it this very day and had fun with it.
The lowly Traxxas Rustler XL-5 is my favorite RC car ever. I got it refurbished for a hundred bucks and put a hundo into upgrades and it is PERFECT.
I generally have a pretty simple view of Traxxas. I think they make good product. I hate their proprietary electronics and I think they're a little over-priced. But that marketing budget isn't going to pay for itself. But they do have a lot of 1st and they do make good product so at leas there's that. And no matter what we think of Traxxas, the RC hobby certainly wouldn't be where it is today without them so it's a good thing they're around just like other good RC brands out there. A rising tide lifts all boats.
Great video! I am a Traxxas fan. My XMAXX is my number 1 favorite RC and I have put that truck through hell and back! I have no complaints with Traxxas. Parts for my E-Maxx are still available.
I got the traxxas bug back in 2008, the slash, been a fan ever since, along with redcat. I've tried many brand's, and found myself like you, my traxxas line is a bit large!
Great vid, I'm subbed now and I'm a Traxxas fan boy. TBH, the ease of use and customer support/parts availability (if needed) is amazing. I'm also the type that if I had an arrma, I'm buying those batteries and charger. I get people's points, but that's why we have options, nobody is forcing anyone to choose just one. Sadly it remind me of the comic book movie fandom, LOL!
I have a smaller Traxxas Slash 1/16, and my 5 year old & friends is bashing the shit out of it, and stuff breaks when he smashes into things, and when tiny gravel finds it way into every little crack in the chassis. So I bought this Traxxas because of the availability of parts, the flexibility of its plastic, the possibility of dual batteries (for longer runtimes), the "training mode" (50% speed) on the ESC, and the easy-to-use batteries and chargers (even a 5 year old can handle it without messing things up). So... my question is, are there any similar (or better) alternatives to Traxxas for smaller kids, 5+ years old?
Out of the 14 cars that I have, 9 are Traxxas. I haven't had any problems with durability with my Traxxas cars. If I need a part, my LHS has it in stock. Parts availability is probably the number one reason why I stick with Traxxas.
That’s a good reason!
This video actually just inspired me to fix my trx4 that's been sitting for months... and now it's fixed love Traxxas!!!
This video is what made me subcribe. I cant say I have any experience with anything but Traxxas, but my experience with them is nothing but good. Im able to rebuild a transmission for cheap, without ever doing it before. I never hold back when driveing any of the 3 RCs from Traxxas that I can, then turn around and fix them for $10 at any hobby shop I go too. I cant fault it, and it is what it is. Jeliousy is real Brother!
(Make sure you read the last sentence)
This was a video definitely needed to be made.
I like Traxxas vehicles especially the TRX 4 and my all-time favorite RC car at the X-maxx but I am not the biggest fan of the company because of what they’ve done small TH-camrs that had did comparison to their vehicles and companies who make similar looking and designed vehicles.
If this was the case with DJI they would’ve went after so many people and so many companies it wouldn’t of been funny.
Whenever you talk about a vehicle or trash talk about it make sure that you refer to your vehicle and not the company therefore the company doesn’t have a leg to stand on to come after you because you wasn’t referring to them you were referring to your own vehicle.
It’s your vehicle you can do whatever you wanna do and say whatever you wanna say about it.
“And expensive attitude to have”…I like it lol
Ima add a bit more, I have a 1/16 model that started life as the Kyle Bush Toyota Nascar Truck then got converted to the Mustang Boss 302 and now has been converted to a slash since the mustang body is falling apart due to it being used and abused as well as it being old. Almost all of the parts on the damn thing are the original parts and it's still running strong including the parts I cant replace due to them being retired. So far I've only had to replace a servo, spur gear, and the receiver and transmitter and that's just due to me owning for years. I recently got a TRX-4M and its stupid fun and I'm not really a crawler person. I've got 2 Tamiya's and one of them is about as old as the 1/16 traxxas i have and I've only broken the steering on it and I'm surprised that they still make parts for it.
Just found your channel, excited to tune in!
So i have something to say.... I am a grown as 39 year old man with 2 kids (Girl 19, son 16) My daughter and i collect weapons, and i struggled connecting with my son (magic, yugio, etc.) I remembered that my grandfather always bought me RC cars, and trucks when he came back from a trip. Now these are the ones with the controller on a cable... So nothing like now. I bought a super cheap 16th scale basher truck on amazon, and had a good time. Then i saw adds and whatnot for traxxas. After about 3 weeks or so i went and got a 2wd slash. I kept hearing about all the shock caps and other issues.. But im happy to report that i have had no issues, and run it daily. (i dont bash it though) I took my son to my local BMX track and we let it rip.... I can attest that we both fell in love and now we both have 2 traxxas trucks. We are looking into drift cars next, which is how i ended up here, but let me tell you Thank you Traxxas, you saved my relationship with my son. (at least for now) every night we are outside having a great time. We dont use any of the traxxas chargers or batteries, cause, yeah, no, not paying that much. But i do agree, its nice to know that when something does break, i can go to a local store, and get what i need. .... Cool video. Thanks.
New subscriber, and this is defo one of the best balanced takes on Traxxas I've ever heard. Hahaha its totally epic. Well done and will be watching more of your vids now. Take care and God bless 👏
It's a brand loyalty thing where everybody feels like they need to pick a side and always hate the other guys. It's the same thing we see with full size vehicles, Ford vs GM vs Mopar. The inflated prices, proprietary hardware are pretty bad though. This hobby is new for me, so I do appreciate how easy it is for me to replace parts on my TRX4 and Rustler 4x4 VXL. But I do think I will eventually branch out to Arma and some of the others. Even thinking about Axial for a small crawler. Respect to those that build theirs from scratch, but that's not for me.
Great video my friend . Been wanting a boat since I live right beside buckeye lake . My choice was buy or build and your statement at the end made my mind up to build my own boat . I too would rather loose in something I built than win in someone else’s creation so it’s off to the drawing board and into the workshop to get to work on my new avenue of the rc world , a V-haul boat , thanks for making my mind up and again great video.
Nice! I love boats…….. I just wish I could run them more often than 5 months out of the year.
I just got back into the RC world after being out of it for over 20 yrs. I started in my teens back in the 80s when you had to build them yourself. I had the Super Champ ( had a rear mono shock and would always rollover) , grasshopper, Blackfoot, Clod Buster ( I loved this 4wd & 4ws ). Fast forward to this yr, I bought a 4x4 Rustler VXL in Feb and a Maxx V2 in May. I can not believe the difference and how far they have came. My Rustler is fun and fast as hell but I usually brake something every time I take it out. The Maxx on the other hand, I literally beat the shit out of it, like jump into trees at 55mph, off the roof of the house, head ons with other RC cars and just cosmetic stuff. The only thing I did crack on the Maxx was a front bulk head when the tire bead came off the rim and I slammed into a box filled with concrete. Surprisingly it still ran, it was just making a rubbing grinding noise. I do use other 4s batteries then Traxxas and I do charge them with my Traxxas charger and it still runs great and even longer run time. My RC cars from back in the day would never be able to handle what the RC cars of today can.
Good video! I don’t own anything Traxxas but that’s mainly because I prefer self assembly to RTR models. From what I see they make some really good gear. The main thing I dislike about Traxxas (and I can see in the comments I’m not alone) is their patent trolling. This is a truly despicable practice and it’s a real shame they feel the need to do this instead of competing on the merits of the company and products. They should ditch the lawyers and stay focussed on making great RC and I’m sure the RC community will reward them for it.
I’ve enjoyed every traxxas vehicle I’ve ever owned over the past 20+ years. Currently have an xmaxx and I absolutely love it.
It's more of a love/hate thing for me. Traxxas makes awesome looking, innovative models that do cost alot,but the real money for traxxas is in upgrades, they put out must have models, and after you pay for that they come out with must have upgrades to make it better. Why not just have that shit from the start and charge accordingly? That's what I hate. Traxxas batteries are so bad they should be illegal, but again, they come out with an exclusive easy to use system that makes it worth it for some people, definitely not me. My big problem with traxxas right now is that they are extremely sue happy,pretty selfish and hypocritical in my opinion. All that being said, The X Maxx changed the game,and I love it.
I've lived an RC life for more than 40 years and I only have 1 Traxxas...but it would be the one truck I grabbed in a fire...TRX-6...so much fun trailing for miles and then a really competent crawler.
My bandit vxl runs exclusively on $20 M12 Milwaukee drill batteries. It runs roughly the same speed as when it's on my buddy's lipo, if not faster. Battery gets hot, but it's a $20 battery. I've been using them for less than a year so I cannot speak for longevity, but they give me a decent run time. I just cut the cable from my old battery, crimped some simple connectors on it, and stuck them into the M12. The 12v is a little high for the speed controller, but I have not noticed any issues. I originally tried a 18v ryobi with a voltage step down buck converter, and it worked, but was not getting the speeds I wanted.
ON RTR @7:00 - If you've ever driven your 1/10 scale ANYTHING in anger, or truly bashed it - maybe fully submerged it in the river, whatever - you've got to get in there and disassemble EVERYTHING. It should be part of the process to learn your UBER EXPENSIVE electronics and toys, part of the responsibility for anyone old enough to run a real R/C. I specifically bought higher-end stuff for my family and young nephews to help them learn complex mechanical systems and microelectronic basics.
Mike Jenkins is actually the Owner, President & Chief Executive Officer of Traxxas.
Imo theres no value for what you pay for a traxxas cars in the basher department. Value for money is what a lot people prioritize. Then theres durability. Here in where i live my hobbyshop has almost any arrma part i need. Other brands are catching up in part support. For me what was the nail in the coffin was traxxas trying to stop competition with lawsuits. They even sued HPO max a tv channel like what. 90% of their cars are overpriced stuff that Have been recycled for decades.
No value? I still have a rustler 12t that I've done nothing with except bash, and let my young kids bash, for over 5 years now. Never changed any of the electronics, and have only ever had to change arms. 189, and came RTR. I've never came across any value in the rc market like that.
I agree with the lawsuit stuff, but every company has done that except Chinese knock offs. So there isn't much you can say on the subject.
As far as recycled stuff, ever hear the saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it"?
It's like McDonald's. A #1 has always been a #1, made the same way for decades, people know what they are getting, no questions.
@@dwaynewilliams3077 tell me where is the value in a entry 3s truck Like the slash for 430$ for the 4wd and The 2wd is 349.99$?
The “ultimate is 549$ who still needs upgrades if you want to abuse it
@@dwaynewilliams3077 like i said im a basher the value for money in the bashing scene with traxxas is non existent. They want you to pay it feels like 30% more than the competition and you get in a lot of cases less for ur bucks. There might be some value on the brushed trucks because they are slower and harder to break things because of it. Perfect for a little kid but for an adult who wants to send its rc full speed out of ramps its a big No
@@EXTREMERC416 and I was talking about their brushed models. They are perfect entry level bashers. That is why I was very specific on what model I was talking about.
Now if you wanna step up to brushless, arrma and traxxas are pretty well tied, and I honestly don't think anyone has anything on either, be it ecx, redcat, etc...
Maybe the mt10 might be up their with em but that's about it.
I have kyosho, and range of smaller cars, never had a traxxas before..then friend gave me a rustler that his kids got bored of..just a 2wd rustler but man the quality of the plastics and fit n finish are great, can only imagine what the high end cars look like
I raced 1/10 scale on dirt in the 90’s with Assoc & Losi.
Took a 24 yr break then bought a TRX-4 builder’s kit.
I don’t race now but enjoy crawling & bashing. I have also recently bought a few
cheaper 1/10 scales Like RGT for when company comes over. I just throw a battery in my TRX-4 and run it. Two out of the three Chinese rigs have broken parts that I ether can’t buy or I would have to frig around buying the replacement parts directly from over seas.
The broken parts were not because of visitors killing them. It was just inferior materials or design.
I should of bought a second Traxxas and kept on smiling!!
Traxxas do have their quirks.
But on the whole they hold up.
And as you said the parts aren’t hard to get.
Traxxas is hated because they are envied.
So my 1st RC as a kid was a Tyco Rebound. Was indestructible for a 90's RC. So for me I love durability and runtime. Now as a adult I figure there is a plethora of information and just sheer amount of RC's nowadays. Decided to try a $15 walmart RC to dip the toe. Impressed with a cheap 18th scale that I wish was 4WD I started searching and learning hobby grade RC's and just RC stuff in general to get up to speed. Defiantly overwhelming options and I usually come to a conclusion of "this looks nice but I can't find exactly what I want". Feel like I have to build my own from scratch to get my desired looks, durability, and runtime. I hate seeing Traxxas everywhere and I hate how some people go out of way to break RC's like they think it's normal and say "oh yeah, that broke easy"....no shit...you sent it 20 feet in the air and landed on concrete or 20+ mph into a hard object, lol. Thanks for this video. I've noticed It's hard to find metal stuff for RC's, like parts and frames, for different scales and different models, it's usually locked to a brand or model which sucks. All this just makes me wish for my own 3D printer and a metal shop lol.
As someone who's just getting into the hobby, ARRMA and Traxxas are 2 most popular, Losi and TA seem to be the underrated brands.
I don't own any big brand RCs yet, but from what I'm seeing, ARRMA is the way to go for the most part. Most of what ARRMA makes as of right now seem like 5 star products overall, however, I don't see a lot of great Traxxas cars (electric) other than the Slash Ultimate, E-REVO 2.0, Maxx 2.0, XMAXX, XRT, and MAYBE the Sledge (Sledge has horrible motor mounting system and gearbox design). But other than those, most of their electric stuff seems like garbage. But I can't say the same about what I see from ARRMA and Losi.
Am I wrong? I'm new, but I've done tons and tons of research on most electric RCs as of 2023. And these were my findings, and my unbiased observation.
Don't get me wrong, Horizon Hobby stuff with Spektrum servos being shotty, ARRMA/Losi definitely isn't perfect, but seem much superior with most of their cars. (Electric stuff, I'm not interested in gas/nitro, so I haven't done that research)
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I don't plan on being brand religious. I believe if it's a good car, it's a good car. And even if it's not great, if it's the one that suits what you want it for and you love it, it's the best. For me, I'm looking into the ARRMA 3S Senton because it suits my location/terrain, looks awesome, and from what I've heard in my research, is one of the easiest to work on, most durable, and reliable cars on the market. But hey, maybe you'd prefer the Big Rock, Vorteks, maybe a Kraton, or hell, Traxxas Slash or something. It depends completely on your driving style, driving terrain, and environment. All I know, is that the ARRMA Senton seems to be the best for my wants and needs, so that's what I'm going to get over a Traxxas Slash or TA SC10, or Losi Tenacity. (And yeah, I like short course trucks lol. They are just so cool to watch in the dirt!)
Lots of people hate on Tamiya too, but Tamiya stuff if not overpowered is fun to drive, and old school .
I was on the Traxxas hate wagon for awhile after what happened to HPI. However talked to someone that basically said Traxxas has a right to defend their patents. And even during the Hate wagon, I had Traxxas models. But now I’m strictly Traxxas. I have a few Traxxas SRT & TCP, Emaxx V-twin concept, nitro 4-tec pro, nitro 4tec 3.3, tmaxx 3.3, nitro slash, nitro rustler, nitro stampede, nitro vee (boat) and Blast. I have a slash and stampede vxl but I’m selling those lol. Traxxas has legit been my more durable rcs and easy to work on.
Hi 10th scale garage, I came by this video for fun since i'm mostly a Traxxas guy but i plan to try Arrma and a few other brands someday. And i agree with most of your gripes. And i watched your recent UDR video and left a comment on it as for me i bought a 4 new Traxxas Vehicles. A 4-tec 2.0 Ford GT, A Hoss, An XO-1 Roller and a Sledge.
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
@@10thScaleGarage No problem, i love your videos my final 2 new traxxas vehicles i hope before i go to different brands will an X-Maxx or a XRT and a Slash 4x4 Ultimate.
I have a few rc vehicles, my first was a helion from the local Hobbytown, but parts availability wasn't great, and there was no aftermarket support for if I found I needed a more robust part (looking at the plastic differential housings) picked up a Traxxas Nitro Slash, and now I've got a Revo, a second Nitro Slash, and even picked up a vintage early 90s Nitro Sport. The "new Sport" had already been discontinued, but I could still get factory replacement parts for it because Traxxas has great parts availability. My next RC is probably going to be an electric Traxxas of some flavor because I don't have anywhere local to get Nitro fuel anymore.
First time watching this channel and l felt the need to comment. I have many different makes of RC cars in my collection…..Arrma, Axial, HPI, HSP and Traxxas to name a few. All of them are fun to drive and all put a smile on my dial in different ways. I have an Arrma Talion that’s powered by a Traxxas XO-1 1650kv motor and it absolutely kicks ass. I’ve got both an Arrma Kraton and Talion with dual motors that l built myself that scare the crap out of me. I have a Traxxas Revo 3.3 and a Slayer Pro 3.3 that l purchased back in 2015 that to this day have never been started or even had nitro in the tank. My first electric car was HSP Planet that l bought l think in 2014 and it’s been an absolute tank, and still runs perfect to this day. I’ve had cars cartwheel into next week and broke nothing but another car roll a few times and I’d have a snapped wing or a broken shock. It’s just the nature of the hobby. Drive, break, repair, repeat.
I gotta agree with you. I've never had a traxxas, or an arrma. They are the most expensive rc's on the market, typically, and I'm not rich enough for that.
But I do love my rc's. Simply because I use and test them, they break, I figure out why, I upgrade or optimize that fault in some way, and then I test again.
Eventually, you end up with an rc rig that is dialed in for what you do with it. I wanted a 4s beast. I looked at my options. I saw the price tags. I cringed a bit. But then I found a smaller company, still US based (not for any reason other than I am in the US, so I want parts that will be here sooner rather than later), and bought their 4s rig.
Now I paid about 60% of the cost of the traxxas and arrma alternatives. I then spent the other 40% of that cost on hop-ups and upgrades, spares, batteries, and other doodads.
I'm grateful I did that, because I'm getting a head start on the experience of doing all this work to my rig. I've dialed it in so much better than it was when I got it, and still have a few parts left to install and upgrade.
That is why I chose the brand I went with for my 4s beast, and, for the record, my price comparisons were for 3s traxxas and 3s arrma options.
I do not regret it.
So dont insult blindly, dont make blanket statements about who is superior and who just sucks, because at the end of the day, if you work on your own rigs, it doesn't actually matter what brands you are using. It matters that you did the work to optimize your own machine, and it will perform better than the RTR thing you bought in the beginning.
Thanks for this video. I know I'm late to this video party, but because of this video, I subscribed. Keep up the objective work!!
The Keaton 4S is my favorite 4S Basher. The only think I’ve replaced on mine is a servo, shock and front A-Arm. Just normal stuff.
The part support is amazing, but not all original tmaxx parts are readily available. The narrow arm stuff is getting a lot harder to find, you obviously have the option to update to the widemaxx stuff. Some of the 3906 parts are getting rough to find as well. I love traxxas and i have owned most all the big brands.
I have a mix of RC's and I gotta say that the Xmaxx is my favorite basher, haven't broken anything in over a year of running.
If it wasn't for traaxas making it easy to getting the rc hobby in the 90s I wouldn't have taken up this enjoyable hobby I love so much for 30 plus years
The same as Apple vs Android. People will always buy what they like! Bought my first in 2008 (Emaxx) and I was hooked. Also had Losi, Tamiya and HPI.
I hold the rustler 2wd speed record here on TH-cam. I’m a OG traxxas guy. Lol this video is GOLD! Awesome content and your humor is the best 😂😂💯💯I agree totally
I have an Axial SMT10 that i built for myself. I bought my wife and son Traxxas trucks. Why? Because I'm not a beginner and they both are. When they break stuff it's always super easy to repair. The proprietary electronics also mean they will never accidently start a fire because Traxxas won't let you charge it the wrong way.