You are the singular most helpful cloud career advisor on all of youtube. There are so many "junk" videos that teach you how to get certified, but provide no real information on career path or anything beyond passing an exam. You are greatly appreciated, and it's an honor to watch your videos.
Right on target. This is the best career channel for any Cloud Eng/Arch to watch. I'm 10 years in my cloud career now. This video is spot on for an ideal model. It's a good way to distinguish the different roles and skillset focus. I've seen each of these roles in multiple large companies. However, remember many companies make up their own unique job titles that won't match this. Many companies HR struggle. :p
Great "reference model" for understanding the differences! This is the best career channel for any Cloud Eng/Arch to watch. I'm 10 years in my Cloud career now. The different roles have changes in focus for skillset and demands. I've seen each of these distinct roles in multiple large companies (sometimes with different titles). However, remember that many companies make up their own unique job titles that won't match this. So viewers - don't be confused, just understand that you can plan your career for this category or type and watch all the open job descriptions. i.e. some will call a job "Cloud Architect" but it's really just a senior Cloud Engineer. Or "Cloud Architect" and they mean Sr Software Developer in cloud. Then after not following the industry general terms, they complain they don't get good candidates for the role. It's only "your problem" in the sense you have to deal with it (not miss any good opportunities, and don't get pulled into the wrong role).
Thank you. One funny thing about tech careers is some companies really do make up their own job titles. But it’s usually more the funny job descriptions which often have nothing to do with the job. I’ve been an architect for over 25 years now and we want people to be successful. It saddens me to see people work so hard to learn the skills for someone else’s job, but not to actually have the skills for the job they desire. So we make a lot of videos on what is a cloud architect and how to become a cloud architect. We want people that desire an architect job to know the actual skills they need to get hired. We were very happy to see CIO magazine write a great article on what is a cloud architect and what do we actually do. www.cio.com/article/221831/what-is-a-cloud-architect-a-vital-role-for-success-in-the-cloud.html/amp/
Good video. Cloud Architect is what your describing a Solution Architect to be. Cloud Arch is deep vendor skills. Sol Arch is broader and closer to business.
No. The cloud architect and a solution architect do the same thing in every company except AWS. A solution architect designs a single vendors like AWS. Or at Cisco they design across Cisco products. A cloud architect designs across multi cloud architectures (private clouds, hybrid clouds, multi clouds and hybrid multi clouds) The cloud architect is even closer to the business as they have to do more stakeholder management across the business, cloud vendors, security vendors, networking vendors and more. That’s also why the cloud architect salary is higher. It’s a bigger version of the role.
Cloud Architect is my path of choice. I’m ready to start labs to achieve more depth of knowledge. The kinesthetic learning approach as you discussed in your previous sessions fit my personality best, so I’m excited to achieve my goals even more that I narrowed down all obstacles on the path.
I must say I was very confused with all these professions before this video. Even though I hate to be limited, I will love to be a solutions architect. Thanks Mike for yet another insightful video
Solution architect = system designer. An interesting way 2 look at the role; not limited to only aws even though possibly heavily influenced by them despite the tech being pre-existent.
Hello, I just grew a big interest in getting the AWS Solutions Architect certification, but I wished to know a little bit more about the bussiness and related careers. I think if you aim your content to these kind of people more (like me) specifically, you'll reach way more viewers Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Simply takes out the complexity in the different job titles. Its sometimes embarrassing to admit that one simply wants a leg in with very little thought on necessarily taking this different functions into consideration. Thanks once again Mike.
I stumbled across your channel searching for cloud and cyber security career information. This is the best video I’ve seen so far that really breaks down and explains the difference between the different cloud roles. Thank you!
Great video , although I would question the definitions of Cloud v Solutions architect. A solutions architect is not necessarily single vendor at all. Yes of course an SA working at AWS or Azure is going to be vendor specific but an SA working in an MSP that offers multi vendor solutions is likely to be fluent in multiple cloud vendor offerings, as well as more legacy tech like on-premise, traditional networking, more modern hybrid solutions etc etc. I would say an SA usually has , and needs, broad knowledge and experience covering much more than a single cloud vendor. A Cloud Architect on the other hand I see as being much like the SA I describe above but with a focus on Cloud (which again can be multi vendor or not) and is less involved in the broader spectrum of technologies outlined in the SA role - so not focused on the on premises, hardware, physical networking etc. Of course the truth is that the role is actually whatever the employer defines it to be and what you end up actually doing, so there are probably lots of examples that will match both you and my definitions. So Im not saying you are wrong, just challenging it a bit - Im a Solutions Architect so it is my role to ask questions and challenge things :-) . At least we aren't trying to define DevOps, which at this stage has no true meaning in the real world.
Thank you. In my 25 years of working as various architects I can tell you that solutions architects in general are focused on one providers tech and a cloud architect or enterprise architect focused more on the total package. I have also coached people into these types of roles for 20 years and that’s their experience as well Also that’s what most hiring managers have told me they desire in these roles. All in all most of what we do is design, present and sell. And sure as a solution architect we do work with outside software and third party vendors but we don’t design their systems Now a cloud architect or enterprise architect will help the customer design their hybrid cloud (openstack vs nutanix) and will also design around multiple clouds But In the end it comes down to what tue company wants, or what you can sell your manager into what you want to do. With the right leadership skills, sales skills, business acumen, emotional intelligence we can help influence our managemnt into what we want to do as long as it benefits the company and it’s customers.
Hi Mike. I haven't not forgotten our discussion. By the grace of God, I will be getting trained by your team soon as a Solutions Architect. See you soon.
Very clear and helpful. I am an executive recruiter and this helps video me to understand the roles I am hiring so much better than the briefs from hiring managers. Thanks
Thank you. That’s wonderful. That’s why we made these videos so people would know how to study, and recruiters would have a better ideas of what their customer needs. So we all win together.
I love this Video, I am switching from a technical Role to CSA role soon and will be go through your class. This has been the best no BS straight to point Delivery on CA/CSA. Thank you
Interesting, isn't it always better to start with Cloud Engineering. Once one is well versed technically, the high level communication falls into place and in the higher management roles that's apparent?
Not really. It is often hard for engineers to become architects. Given that the job is so very different an engineering background is NOT always advantage It’s like saying working as a flight attendant will make someone a better airplane pilot The jobs are so different being good at someone else’s career is not necessarily an advantage.
Hi Pruyesh, The technical skills are different for each kind of cloud architect. Meaning those who focus on infrastructure need a different focus then those who more focus on security. So when we build cloud architects we have to look at their starting point, goal career on the cloud. Then we can do a gap analysis between current skills and needed skills for the role. On Monday we will be hosting our free how to get your first cloud architect job. You can attend the live zoom session and we will answer any questions you will have. We will also be streaming to TH-cam on Monday at the same time. Here is the link to register. www.gocloudarchitects.com/free-cloud-webinar/
Hi, I just joined your webinar on how to get cloud career journey started! I am excited. I have only completed AZ-900 fundamentals course so far. I am not very technical currently but im learning python and linux currently. I really would like to develop my cloud career. I thought solutions architech would be my path but after watching your video and learning that it is a more customer facing role. It might not be for me anymore. I am excited to see what other options are there where i can start and not be very customer oriented. Devops seems like a very technical field so i am not sure.
Thank you, Alam! We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you. Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar #cloudhired
CLOUD ARCHITECT, PLEASE! Im formerly 20yrs, Telcom Network (Infrastructure) Engineer, all intracompany. So Im very comfortable in a networking environment, and do have some business forecasting, troubleshooting experience from having worked with Technical Business Analysts and making solutions for them, and their clients. Now, wish to (work SOLELY ) from home, doing cloud architecture and solutions. I have experience with studying, AWS, AZURE, and currently hold an Oracle cloud cert. Love it! lol 😆 So glad I found your channel. .. thank you.
Thank you Mike , I wanted to review this video for a second time confirm I have a clear understanding of a General Cloud Architect role. Excellent explanation.
Grate explanation Mike, Thanks. Looking at the diagonal curve in the graph allows me to spot my coordinate and train towards the focus point. I am looking forward to your guidance.
Thank you for this video! I know this wasn't the scope of this video but where would the cloud sec architect fit? I'm working on this route on the azure side. thanks again!
That’s a fantastic route. The path is the same for a cloud architect but you will need to know security as well. We made a video a few weeks back on cloud security interview questions. th-cam.com/video/AgB33UPGcBc/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for the suggestion! While we work on that, please watch our video about Cloud Engineer Career Training (Types of Cloud Engineers): th-cam.com/video/KS1asAQgkjo/w-d-xo.html #cloudhired
There is no coding in either of these jobs Please see the videos on this channel - what does a cloud architect do and do solutions architects need coding skills
As is customary with Gocloud initiatives, this is very useful information @Mike. Thank you. I'm interested in aws solution's architect-hoping to follow up your training and gain in-depth project base knowledge, and get ready for a to walk the path towards becoming a cloud architect. It clears a lot of doubts and discrepancies about roles to play in the cloud.
In the beginning you have mixed cloud engineer with cloud architect :D But overall very good video to explain people the difference between engineer and architect.
Well it depends upon one’s goals One can start as architect, move to senior architect, to principal architect and stay there. Or a cloud architect / solutions architect can move into an enterprise architect role Or a good cloud architect with strong business acumen could go form cloud architect to a director of architecture then move to a VP or CIO role. It’s all based upon one’s goals and how the focus their careers
PS: It seems easy to get overwhelmed by everything we think we need to know and waste precious time and resources trying to acquire them. Thanks again Mike for the video!
I don’t know what you mean by NFRs. But it’s the architect that gets the business requirements. The business requirements or what the customer needs to do then becomes the technical or cloud requirements. That’s a big part of the architects job.
So to be cloud architect, we need to start our journey like: Cloud Engineer --> Solution Architect --> Cloud Architect ? Is it or something I am missing ?
Rohit. Sometimes our students fist job is a cloud architect or solutions architect. Engineering and architecture are very different. Sometimes having an engineering background helps - but not always. In any case their are no rules about how to get someplace. It’s more about your technical competency, attitude, communication skills, executive presence, emotional intelligence etc then any past job.
Thank you for your question, Richard! The answer is no. All public cloud providers use the same technology to build their clouds. If you learn the fundamental technologies they all use, you will be able to work in any cloud. We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you. Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar #cloudhired
I've been struggling to find a definition of each of these roles and how they differ, so this was helpful. What would you call the position between the Cloud Engineer and Solutions Architect? I have a client who is in a Solutions Architect role, often performs the roles of the Cloud Architect, but misses the hands on work of an Engineer. They're more than the "guy with headphones on in the back room", has seen a lot, offers solutions, can be "customer facing" when needed (whiteboards and all), but doesn't "just want to talk about the solutions", and finds satisfaction of problem solving and actually building out the solution. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks again for this video.
Hi Red Cloud Solutions. All architect roles are really customer facing roles. It’s that communication skill, business acumen, executive presence combined with tech that makes an architect an architect. But there is one architect role that’s mostly an engineer. That’s the technical architect. It’s more of a very senior engineer. These people tend to be very technical and do far less presentations, document writing etc.
It’s not necessary to be an engineer to start an architecture career. We have many people who never worked in tech getting their first cloud architect and enterprise architect roles after our training. You can see many videos about people who got their first tech job as an architect on or channel. We also take cloud engineers and retrain them for architecture roles as architecture and engineering have very little common. Why don’t you join us for a free webinar on cloud architect or enterprise architecture careers. There you can learn what we do and see why we are completely different then cloud engineers. www.gocloudarchitects.com/become-the-ultimate-cloud-architect-webinar-youtube/
Hi Mike, I'm on the path to getting my AWS SAA CO3 certification. I don't have a technical background but I've worked in high level customer facing roles, face to face meetings, presentations etc. I wanted to transition from my current Sales BD role to SAA. Do you know what beginner level position that I should apply for? I can study and take the exam but I want to know the best entry level position I should start with to work my way up from. Thank you so much for everything you do!! Love and appreciate the content!!
There is no such things as an entry level position. Entry level positions basically assuming you don’t have the advantage of education and you want to start at the bottom and maybe a decade later you get to your goals. Physicians, lawyers and cloud architects with the right training start at the top. We have countless students whose first job is a cloud architects, solutions architect and even senior architect roles with no tech experience just our training. Now certifications will not prepare you for any job but the right training will. Why don’t you come to this free webinar and we can help you get to your goals. my.demio.com/ref/01ppStEkIUVxsXXj
Certifications have nothing to do with the knowledge necessary to become a cloud architect. Please join us at this webinar and we tell you exactly what you need to learn to get your first cloud architect job. my.demio.com/ref/01ppStEkIUVxsXXj
Thanks for the great video! As many commenters already said - your videos are really a gem. I wanted to ask for advice. I would like to go into contracting/freelancing with Cloud technologies. I am currently aiming at getting the GCP Cloud Architect certification. Which role do you think is best fit for contracting/freelancing?
Please join us on our how to get your first cloud job webinar. www.gocloudarchitects.com/free-cloud-webinar/ No certification alone is enough for any cloud job, but if you learn the right things you can easily get a cloud job. Or come to one of our three free weekly sessions where we can tell us your career goal and we will tell you what you need know.
Sairahul, we have a lot of content on AWS on our TH-cam channel. To answer that I would need to know more about you and your career objectives. We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you. Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar #cloudhired
Thank you for your question! It is difficult to answer it here. We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you. Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar #cloudhired
Hello Mike, Thank you for the thoughtful insights about Cloud Platform. I am a SAP Functional consultant ( 16 years exp) for Materials Management. I do Configurations in SAP System to achieve Business objectives. Can you please guide, which Role is suitable for me to transform my career in to Cloud platform Regards, Rajeev
Hi. Which role do you want? That’s the role that’s suitable for you. I went from medicne to architecture. My students go from any background to a getting cloud architect jobs. So the real question is what do you desire to do? That’s the job that’s suitable for you. Then just build a plan, and follow that plan to get to your goals 😊
For my employeer, the "Solutions Architect" is basically what you described as Enterprise Architect. And its the most senior of the 2. They rank them as Data Architect > Cloud Architect > Solutions Architect, and Enterprise Architect is often very very non technical, and less prestigious (Ive seen similar on other firms as well). This is multi billion dollar consultant firm. For example, they ask this for Solutions Architects (Courses and evaluations) Focus on quality2 Focus on results2 People development1 Application Design2 Application Development1 Cloud Architecture Design2 Enterprise Application Architecture Design2 Information Security Management2 Monitoring of Technological Trends and Business Models2 Support changes / developments of the system2 Sustainable Development1 System Architecture Design2 They ask this for Cloud Architects. Focus on quality2 Focus on results2 People development1 Application Design2 Cloud Adoption Strategy1 Cloud Architecture Design2 Monitoring of Technological Trends and Business Models2 Support changes / developments of the system2 Sustainable Development1 System Integration2 They ask this for Enterprise Architects Focus on quality2 Focus on results2 People development1 Data Architecture Design2 Enterprise Application Architecture Design1 Information Security Management1 Monitoring of Technological Trends and Business Models1 Support changes / developments of the system2 System Architecture Design2 Technology Product Documentation2
@@GoCloudArchitects yes but if based on the skills I provided. My assessment correct ?. How would you see within the skills I provided the Solution Architect ? More high level than the Cloud right ?
@@KaratePath these are the descriptions you gave not the normal architect descriptions. Your descriptions at what major tech companies like Cisco, IBM use but are specific to your company. The reason the enterprise architects earn more and are typically a higher level position is their business focus. It’s typically a more CXO level job. It’s also a director level position at most big tech companies. But honestly I have been an architect for decades and have seen some companies make their own definitions. Especially with solutions architects. Every company has their own definition and and they can be anything from a cell phone sales person to someone doing enterprise architecture.
@@KaratePath Well yes these roles get less and less technical as you move up the ranks. The prestige is not on being a great techie. The prestige is learning how to maximize the business with technology. That’s why the less technical roles pay more. But all of these roles are becoming more enterprise architect like, as the separation between architecture which is focused on the business, and engineering which is focused on the tech widens. The separation between architects and engineers will grow more with artificial intelligence and new technologies. When it comes to designing big picture you just need a team of people to get as deep.
We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you. Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar #cloudhired
Hello what is the difference between solution architect as described in your video and azure or other cloud provider solutions architect? I'm developer with 10 years of experience and achieved several azure certification especially administrator associate (az-104). I will probably try to get the devops certification but I'd like try to also get the azure solution architect in the next 2 years. My professionnal goal in short term is to be software architect but with cloud solutions so I guess to achieve azure solutions architect is a good choice. What do you think about my path?
Hi, These are industry terms as opposed to vendor terms. So a solution architect on aws will know aws services, a solution architect on azure will know azure services. While a cloud architect is more of someone who designs the end to end solution regardless of this provider. This same thing applies to network architect vs solution architects as well.
@@GoCloudArchitects Yes, with the caveat that many companies and HRs mix these titles up all the time. There are lots of jobs called "cloud architect" that are really just senior cloud engineers skillsets. I'm not saying this reference model for describing the differences is wrong or not helpful- quite the opposite. But viewers will be confused when they see jobs that don't match what is described here.
Hi Celeb, Not exactly. A cloud architect or solution architect is like a cloud engineer and a business executive in the same person. The difference between a cloud architect and a solution architect is the cloud architect can help the customer design a solution on all clouds. A solution architect only knows one cloud. So a solution architect is like a junior cloud architect
Hmm. AWS places Cloud and Solutions on different levels of hierarchy th-cam.com/video/jpZCg4sCz_o/w-d-xo.html than you. They claim Solution(s) architect to have higher level of abstraction, which (to me personally) sounds more natural. Cloud Architect can be fine knowing just a single cloud/vendor well. Not the case for Solution(s) Architects.
Hi Ivan, All companies have their own names for their own positions. AWS is one of the many tens of thousands of employers who hire cloud architects In most companies cloud architects design the multi cloud solution. Solutions architects design on a single cloud. Now 98 percent of end customers use more then one cloud. Thats why in most companies the cloud architect its a bigger role. The cloud architect sits in between the enterprise architects and the solutions architect. This means the cloud architect will lead the solutions architects from various vendors, AWS, Azure, Cisco, Microsoft, Security vendors like Palo Alto to design the customers multi-cloud architectures AWS is the exception in their naming. At AWS the cloud architect isn't really an architect at all. Its more of an engineering role with some technical design. Like a cross between an engineer and architect.
![[Live สด] การออกรางวัลสลากกินแบ่งรัฐบาล งวดวันที่ 16 พฤศจิกายน 2567](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wPd7VFfWHIA/mqdefault.jpg)
30% Holiday Discount on our Cloud Architect Training, limited availability. bit.ly/3HUWOCj
You are the singular most helpful cloud career advisor on all of youtube. There are so many "junk" videos that teach you how to get certified, but provide no real information on career path or anything beyond passing an exam. You are greatly appreciated, and it's an honor to watch your videos.
Thank you!
I'm glad our content is useful!
#cloudhired
Incroyable.
Right on target. This is the best career channel for any Cloud Eng/Arch to watch. I'm 10 years in my cloud career now.
This video is spot on for an ideal model. It's a good way to distinguish the different roles and skillset focus. I've seen each of these roles in multiple large companies.
However, remember many companies make up their own unique job titles that won't match this. Many companies HR struggle. :p
This man is knows deep understanding of Cloud Architecture.
Thank you very much
Great "reference model" for understanding the differences! This is the best career channel for any Cloud Eng/Arch to watch. I'm 10 years in my Cloud career now.
The different roles have changes in focus for skillset and demands. I've seen each of these distinct roles in multiple large companies (sometimes with different titles).
However, remember that many companies make up their own unique job titles that won't match this.
So viewers - don't be confused, just understand that you can plan your career for this category or type and watch all the open job descriptions. i.e. some will call a job "Cloud Architect" but it's really just a senior Cloud Engineer. Or "Cloud Architect" and they mean Sr Software Developer in cloud.
Then after not following the industry general terms, they complain they don't get good candidates for the role. It's only "your problem" in the sense you have to deal with it (not miss any good opportunities, and don't get pulled into the wrong role).
Thank you.
One funny thing about tech careers is some companies really do make up their own job titles.
But it’s usually more the funny job descriptions which often have nothing to do with the job.
I’ve been an architect for over 25 years now and we want people to be successful. It saddens me to see people work so hard to learn the skills for someone else’s job, but not to actually have the skills for the job they desire.
So we make a lot of videos on what is a cloud architect and how to become a cloud architect.
We want people that desire an architect job to know the actual skills they need to get hired.
We were very happy to see CIO magazine write a great article on what is a cloud architect and what do we actually do.
www.cio.com/article/221831/what-is-a-cloud-architect-a-vital-role-for-success-in-the-cloud.html/amp/
Good video. Cloud Architect is what your describing a Solution Architect to be. Cloud Arch is deep vendor skills. Sol Arch is broader and closer to business.
No. The cloud architect and a solution architect do the same thing in every company except AWS.
A solution architect designs a single vendors like AWS. Or at Cisco they design across Cisco products. A cloud architect designs across multi cloud architectures (private clouds, hybrid clouds, multi clouds and hybrid multi clouds)
The cloud architect is even closer to the business as they have to do more stakeholder management across the business, cloud vendors, security vendors, networking vendors and more.
That’s also why the cloud architect salary is higher. It’s a bigger version of the role.
Cloud Architect is my path of choice. I’m ready to start labs to achieve more depth of knowledge. The kinesthetic learning approach as you discussed in your previous sessions fit my personality best, so I’m excited to achieve my goals even more that I narrowed down all obstacles on the path.
That sounds like a great plan!
How have things worked out for you
I must say I was very confused with all these professions before this video. Even though I hate to be limited, I will love to be a solutions architect. Thanks Mike for yet another insightful video
Solutions architect is a great place too.
Coming from a sales background solutions architect is right up my alley. Thank you for the clear understanding between the roles
Sales is an excellent background
Solution architect = system designer. An interesting way 2 look at the role; not limited to only aws even though possibly heavily influenced by them despite the tech being pre-existent.
Hello, I just grew a big interest in getting the AWS Solutions Architect certification, but I wished to know a little bit more about the bussiness and related careers.
I think if you aim your content to these kind of people more (like me) specifically, you'll reach way more viewers
Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
There are many videos on this content on our channel. Please see other videos
Simply takes out the complexity in the different job titles. Its sometimes embarrassing to admit that one simply wants a leg in with very little thought on necessarily taking this different functions into consideration. Thanks once again Mike.
Thank you Tayii.
I stumbled across your channel searching for cloud and cyber security career information. This is the best video I’ve seen so far that really breaks down and explains the difference between the different cloud roles. Thank you!
Thank you!
Great explanation of the different architecture roles. I’m an EA and appreciate you explaining this role to the masses.
Thank you, John!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
#cloudhired
Great video , although I would question the definitions of Cloud v Solutions architect. A solutions architect is not necessarily single vendor at all. Yes of course an SA working at AWS or Azure is going to be vendor specific but an SA working in an MSP that offers multi vendor solutions is likely to be fluent in multiple cloud vendor offerings, as well as more legacy tech like on-premise, traditional networking, more modern hybrid solutions etc etc. I would say an SA usually has , and needs, broad knowledge and experience covering much more than a single cloud vendor.
A Cloud Architect on the other hand I see as being much like the SA I describe above but with a focus on Cloud (which again can be multi vendor or not) and is less involved in the broader spectrum of technologies outlined in the SA role - so not focused on the on premises, hardware, physical networking etc.
Of course the truth is that the role is actually whatever the employer defines it to be and what you end up actually doing, so there are probably lots of examples that will match both you and my definitions. So Im not saying you are wrong, just challenging it a bit - Im a Solutions Architect so it is my role to ask questions and challenge things :-) . At least we aren't trying to define DevOps, which at this stage has no true meaning in the real world.
Thank you.
In my 25 years of working as various architects I can tell you that solutions architects in general are focused on one providers tech and a cloud architect or enterprise architect focused more on the total package.
I have also coached people into these types of roles for 20 years and that’s their experience as well
Also that’s what most hiring managers have told me they desire in these roles.
All in all most of what we do is design, present and sell.
And sure as a solution architect we do work with outside software and third party vendors but we don’t design their systems
Now a cloud architect or enterprise architect will help the customer design their hybrid cloud (openstack vs nutanix) and will also design around multiple clouds
But In the end it comes down to what tue company wants, or what you can sell your manager into what you want to do.
With the right leadership skills, sales skills, business acumen, emotional intelligence we can help influence our managemnt into what we want to do as long as it benefits the company and it’s customers.
Hi Mike. I haven't not forgotten our discussion. By the grace of God, I will be getting trained by your team soon as a Solutions Architect. See you soon.
We look forward to helping you get to your career goals.
Very clear and helpful. I am an executive recruiter and this helps video me to understand the roles I am hiring so much better than the briefs from hiring managers. Thanks
Thank you. That’s wonderful. That’s why we made these videos so people would know how to study, and recruiters would have a better ideas of what their customer needs. So we all win together.
Thanks Mike for breaking down the nuances between these cloud roles! Extremely helpful!
Thank you Elonzo. We believe that is essential to know the destination - prior to starting ones training, so you can train most efficiently.
I love this Video, I am switching from a technical Role to CSA role soon and will be go through your class. This has been the best no BS straight to point Delivery on CA/CSA. Thank you
Thank you Gilford. We would be honored to work with you.
I really appreciate the breakdown of the positions
Thank you Jordan.
Thanks a lot Mike! This helped provide some clarity. Cloud Architect here I come!
Thank you Jide
Interesting, isn't it always better to start with Cloud Engineering. Once one is well versed technically, the high level communication falls into place and in the higher management roles that's apparent?
Not really.
It is often hard for engineers to become architects.
Given that the job is so very different an engineering background is NOT always advantage
It’s like saying working as a flight attendant will make someone a better airplane pilot
The jobs are so different being good at someone else’s career is not necessarily an advantage.
@@GoCloudArchitects makes sense, thanks for the prompt reply
Thank You Mike there aren't many videos out there explaining these concepts, this is very much needed.
Thank you cloud skills
This is a great Video and Channel. Is it possible for you to list the Technicals Skills required to be Cloud Architect, please?
Hi Pruyesh,
The technical skills are different for each kind of cloud architect.
Meaning those who focus on infrastructure need a different focus then those who more focus on security.
So when we build cloud architects we have to look at their starting point, goal career on the cloud.
Then we can do a gap analysis between current skills and needed skills for the role.
On Monday we will be hosting our free how to get your first cloud architect job.
You can attend the live zoom session and we will answer any questions you will have.
We will also be streaming to TH-cam on Monday at the same time.
Here is the link to register.
www.gocloudarchitects.com/free-cloud-webinar/
Thank you so much for this clear explanation. I was so confused on what are the responsibilities of a SA and an Engineer.
I’m so happy. That’s why we made this video.
Thanks Mike, I always thought that the solution architect and the cloud Architect roles intersect with each other
Thank you Ryan.
Hi, I just joined your webinar on how to get cloud career journey started! I am excited. I have only completed AZ-900 fundamentals course so far. I am not very technical currently but im learning python and linux currently. I really would like to develop my cloud career. I thought solutions architech would be my path but after watching your video and learning that it is a more customer facing role. It might not be for me anymore. I am excited to see what other options are there where i can start and not be very customer oriented. Devops seems like a very technical field so i am not sure.
Thank you, Alam!
We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you.
Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar
#cloudhired
Do you desire to be a cloud architect or solutions architect? Please comment below!
Yes
Cloud Architect
Yes, interested
Yes
CLOUD ARCHITECT, PLEASE!
Im formerly 20yrs, Telcom
Network (Infrastructure) Engineer, all intracompany.
So Im very comfortable in a networking environment, and do have some business forecasting, troubleshooting experience from having worked with Technical Business Analysts and making solutions for them, and their clients.
Now, wish to (work SOLELY ) from home, doing cloud architecture and solutions.
I have experience with studying, AWS, AZURE, and currently hold an Oracle cloud cert. Love it! lol 😆
So glad I found your channel. .. thank you.
Wow this is a great channel! Going to local college for cloud architecture soon. This is really helpful. Thank you.
Great to hear!
Which ones pays more cloud or solutions?
Thank you Mike , I wanted to review this video for a second time confirm I have a clear understanding of a General Cloud Architect role. Excellent explanation.
Thank you Derrick
Grate explanation Mike, Thanks. Looking at the diagonal curve in the graph allows me to spot my coordinate and train towards the focus point. I am looking forward to your guidance.
Thank you. We are always happy to guide you.
Just saw u in the other video! lol 😆
Youre like FAMOUS now!
Thank you for this video! I know this wasn't the scope of this video but where would the cloud sec architect fit? I'm working on this route on the azure side. thanks again!
That’s a fantastic route. The path is the same for a cloud architect but you will need to know security as well.
We made a video a few weeks back on cloud security interview questions.
th-cam.com/video/AgB33UPGcBc/w-d-xo.html
Thank you Mike for this clarification.
Thank you, Mike, this has been eye-opening and very helpful to know which direction to go.
Hi Brenda. So glad to hear that
Kindly do a video on cloud engineer path and how to get a job without experience
Thank you for the suggestion!
While we work on that, please watch our video about Cloud Engineer Career Training (Types of Cloud Engineers): th-cam.com/video/KS1asAQgkjo/w-d-xo.html
#cloudhired
Thanks awesome video thanks for communicating on the know how on the various positions
Thank you, Denis!
I'm glad it was helpful!
#cloudhired
Awesome explanation!! From my 25-year experience I can tell these definitions are quite accurate!!
Thank you. I have been an architect for a few decades.
Much needed information to step in to clouds... Thanks.
Thank you Chetan. It’s a great place here and we want to make it as easy as possible for others to work on the cloud.
sorry for silly question. But which one needs the least coding skills ???
There is no coding in either of these jobs
Please see the videos on this channel - what does a cloud architect do and do solutions architects need coding skills
Thank you Mike for clarification between Solution and Cloud Architect. Now I know.
Thank you Ian.
As is customary with Gocloud initiatives, this is very useful information @Mike. Thank you. I'm interested in aws solution's architect-hoping to follow up your training and gain in-depth project base knowledge, and get ready for a to walk the path towards becoming a cloud architect.
It clears a lot of doubts and discrepancies about roles to play in the cloud.
Thank you Epah
In the beginning you have mixed cloud engineer with cloud architect :D But overall very good video to explain people the difference between engineer and architect.
Thank you!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
#cloudhired
The best video I found in my cloud journey 🎉
Thank you, Arun!
I'm glad it was helpful!
#cloudhired
What does career progression typically look like?
Well it depends upon one’s goals
One can start as architect, move to senior architect, to principal architect and stay there.
Or a cloud architect / solutions architect can move into an enterprise architect role
Or a good cloud architect with strong business acumen could go form cloud architect to a director of architecture then move to a VP or CIO role.
It’s all based upon one’s goals and how the focus their careers
WoW you nailed it Mike. I will concentrate in acquiring more depth to follow the path of cloud architect
Thank you Rizwan. I love the cloud architect role too
Solution Architect. Perfect explanations.
Thank you so much
What I needed to see the path clearly and sharpen my focus. Thank you Mike!
PS: It seems easy to get overwhelmed by everything we think we need to know and waste precious time and resources trying to acquire them. Thanks again Mike for the video!
So true, thats why we all need to focus first on what matters most.
Thank U Mr Gibbs. This explanation clears up a lot for me.
Thank you for the feedback, Craig!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
#CloudHired
Best explanation I’ve heard yet
Thank you
This greatly cleared my doubt about these 2 positions! Thanks Mike!
Fantastic Harshal
Who is responsible for capturing the NFRs and cloud requirements ?
I don’t know what you mean by NFRs. But it’s the architect that gets the business requirements.
The business requirements or what the customer needs to do then becomes the technical or cloud requirements.
That’s a big part of the architects job.
Thank you, Mike, this has been eye-opening and very helpful to know which direction to go. I really appreciate the breakdown of the positions
Thank you Don
So to be cloud architect, we need to start our journey like:
Cloud Engineer --> Solution Architect --> Cloud Architect ? Is it or something I am missing ?
Rohit.
Sometimes our students fist job is a cloud architect or solutions architect.
Engineering and architecture are very different.
Sometimes having an engineering background helps - but not always.
In any case their are no rules about how to get someplace.
It’s more about your technical competency, attitude, communication skills, executive presence, emotional intelligence etc then any past job.
Pls explain software architect
This was really helpful information. Thank you.
Wonderful. It makes us so happy to hear the video was helpful to you.
Thanks for explaining the key differences
Thank you IndraKumar!
I would definitely attend your live!
We look forward to seeing you on one of our live platforms.
Another great video 👍! Thanks Mike for helping understand these roles.
Thank you Sweetie
Should Cloud Architects specialise in either AWS, GCP or Azure?
Thank you for your question, Richard!
The answer is no.
All public cloud providers use the same technology to build their clouds. If you learn the fundamental technologies they all use, you will be able to work in any cloud.
We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you.
Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar
#cloudhired
Thanks for explaining to the differences so well.
Thank you Balwinder
Wow thank you for explaining this so well. Really appreciated. 🏆
Thank you, Jacques!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
#CloudHired
Great insight into the different cloud positions - thanks Mike!
Angela thank you.
Very informative video as usual!!! thanks a lot for that
Thank you
Your content is the best about cloud. How about cloud security engineer role?
Thank you. We have a video on this next week.
@@GoCloudArchitects Thank you. You're the best! I'll join your webinar next week too.
This video was really insightful! Solution Architect looks like the path I would like to deep down. Thank you for this amazing resource!!
Thank you!
I'm glad it was helpful!
#cloudhired
I've been struggling to find a definition of each of these roles and how they differ, so this was helpful. What would you call the position between the Cloud Engineer and Solutions Architect? I have a client who is in a Solutions Architect role, often performs the roles of the Cloud Architect, but misses the hands on work of an Engineer. They're more than the "guy with headphones on in the back room", has seen a lot, offers solutions, can be "customer facing" when needed (whiteboards and all), but doesn't "just want to talk about the solutions", and finds satisfaction of problem solving and actually building out the solution. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks again for this video.
Hi Red Cloud Solutions.
All architect roles are really customer facing roles. It’s that communication skill, business acumen, executive presence combined with tech that makes an architect an architect.
But there is one architect role that’s mostly an engineer. That’s the technical architect. It’s more of a very senior engineer. These people tend to be very technical and do far less presentations, document writing etc.
@@GoCloudArchitects Thank you! That makes a lot of sense.
Great explanation
Thanks for explaining the differences.
We are happy to help. Thank you for watching
Very direct and easy to understand, thanks for another great video.
Thank you Ruok07.
I desire to be a cloud security architect because I come from a security background
That's a great plan and a very needed role.
To be Enterprise architect is it necessary to start your career from cloud engineer?.
It’s not necessary to be an engineer to start an architecture career.
We have many people who never worked in tech getting their first cloud architect and enterprise architect roles after our training. You can see many videos about people who got their first tech job as an architect on or channel.
We also take cloud engineers and retrain them for architecture roles as architecture and engineering have very little common.
Why don’t you join us for a free webinar on cloud architect or enterprise architecture careers. There you can learn what we do and see why we are completely different then cloud engineers.
www.gocloudarchitects.com/become-the-ultimate-cloud-architect-webinar-youtube/
This is extremely helpful as the solution architect seems to be used a lot lately so this gives great insight
Thank you very much Rich
Thankyou! Good to understand the clear difference.
Thank you Smita
Thanks mike, the video helps me to decide.
Great Solo
Hi Mike, I'm on the path to getting my AWS SAA CO3 certification. I don't have a technical background but I've worked in high level customer facing roles, face to face meetings, presentations etc. I wanted to transition from my current Sales BD role to SAA. Do you know what beginner level position that I should apply for? I can study and take the exam but I want to know the best entry level position I should start with to work my way up from. Thank you so much for everything you do!! Love and appreciate the content!!
There is no such things as an entry level position. Entry level positions basically assuming you don’t have the advantage of education and you want to start at the bottom and maybe a decade later you get to your goals.
Physicians, lawyers and cloud architects with the right training start at the top.
We have countless students whose first job is a cloud architects, solutions architect and even senior architect roles with no tech experience just our training.
Now certifications will not prepare you for any job but the right training will.
Why don’t you come to this free webinar and we can help you get to your goals.
my.demio.com/ref/01ppStEkIUVxsXXj
What certificate does a person need to gain knowledge as a cloud architect?
Certifications have nothing to do with the knowledge necessary to become a cloud architect.
Please join us at this webinar and we tell you exactly what you need to learn to get your first cloud architect job.
my.demio.com/ref/01ppStEkIUVxsXXj
@@GoCloudArchitects looking forward to it! 🙏🏾
Thanks for the great video! As many commenters already said - your videos are really a gem. I wanted to ask for advice. I would like to go into contracting/freelancing with Cloud technologies. I am currently aiming at getting the GCP Cloud Architect certification. Which role do you think is best fit for contracting/freelancing?
Please join us on our how to get your first cloud job webinar.
www.gocloudarchitects.com/free-cloud-webinar/
No certification alone is enough for any cloud job, but if you learn the right things you can easily get a cloud job.
Or come to one of our three free weekly sessions where we can tell us your career goal and we will tell you what you need know.
@@GoCloudArchitects will there be more webinars? I lost this one.
Great explanation! Thank you...
Thank you BB
HI mike.
As a 1 year experience in Support which course you can suggest in AWS i.e Solution Architect or cloud architect
Sairahul, we have a lot of content on AWS on our TH-cam channel.
To answer that I would need to know more about you and your career objectives.
We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you.
Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar
#cloudhired
What is a aws customer deliver architect?
Thank you for your question!
It is difficult to answer it here.
We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you.
Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar
#cloudhired
Hello Mike,
Thank you for the thoughtful insights about Cloud Platform.
I am a SAP Functional consultant ( 16 years exp) for Materials Management. I do Configurations in SAP System to achieve Business objectives.
Can you please guide, which Role is suitable for me to transform my career in to Cloud platform
Regards, Rajeev
Hi. Which role do you want? That’s the role that’s suitable for you.
I went from medicne to architecture. My students go from any background to a getting cloud architect jobs.
So the real question is what do you desire to do?
That’s the job that’s suitable for you. Then just build a plan, and follow that plan to get to your goals 😊
thanks a lot really appreciate.
Thank you!
I'm glad you liked it!
#cloudhired
Happy to find a great video👍
Thank you, Govind!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
#cloudhired
Solid mike. Thank you
Thank you very much Michael.
Register for our FREE AWS Solutions Architect Associate Bootcamp, July 19-23, 2022, click here www.gocloudcareers.com/aws-july-bootcamp
I want this!!!!
Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
#cloudhired
Thank you Sir!
Thank you
Really useful info, Mike
Thank you very much Gopa.
For my employeer, the "Solutions Architect" is basically what you described as Enterprise Architect. And its the most senior of the 2. They rank them as Data Architect > Cloud Architect > Solutions Architect, and Enterprise Architect is often very very non technical, and less prestigious (Ive seen similar on other firms as well). This is multi billion dollar consultant firm.
For example, they ask this for Solutions Architects (Courses and evaluations)
Focus on quality2
Focus on results2
People development1
Application Design2
Application Development1
Cloud Architecture Design2
Enterprise Application Architecture Design2
Information Security Management2
Monitoring of Technological Trends and Business
Models2
Support changes / developments of the system2
Sustainable Development1
System Architecture Design2
They ask this for Cloud Architects.
Focus on quality2
Focus on results2
People development1
Application Design2
Cloud Adoption Strategy1
Cloud Architecture Design2
Monitoring of Technological Trends and Business Models2
Support changes / developments of the system2
Sustainable Development1
System Integration2
They ask this for Enterprise Architects
Focus on quality2
Focus on results2
People development1
Data Architecture Design2
Enterprise Application Architecture Design1
Information Security Management1
Monitoring of Technological Trends and Business
Models1
Support changes / developments of the system2
System Architecture Design2
Technology Product Documentation2
Every company has their own definition.
Our definition is what the majority of major employees use.
@@GoCloudArchitects yes but if based on the skills I provided. My assessment correct ?. How would you see within the skills I provided the Solution Architect ? More high level than the Cloud right ?
@@KaratePath these are the descriptions you gave not the normal architect descriptions.
Your descriptions at what major tech companies like Cisco, IBM use but are specific to your company.
The reason the enterprise architects earn more and are typically a higher level position is their business focus. It’s typically a more CXO level job. It’s also a director level position at most big tech companies.
But honestly I have been an architect for decades and have seen some companies make their own definitions.
Especially with solutions architects. Every company has their own definition and and they can be anything from a cell phone sales person to someone doing enterprise architecture.
I know. I just meant that if mine matches the original assessment I made compared to your assessment
@@KaratePath Well yes these roles get less and less technical as you move up the ranks.
The prestige is not on being a great techie. The prestige is learning how to maximize the business with technology. That’s why the less technical roles pay more.
But all of these roles are becoming more enterprise architect like, as the separation between architecture which is focused on the business, and engineering which is focused on the tech widens.
The separation between architects and engineers will grow more with artificial intelligence and new technologies.
When it comes to designing big picture you just need a team of people to get as deep.
How can I get in contact with you. Thank you,
We offer our FREE How to Get Your First Cloud Job Webinar, where you can ask your cloud career questions, and I’ll answer them for you.
Please register for the next webinar at: gocloudcareers.com/free-cloud-webinar
#cloudhired
Hello what is the difference between solution architect as described in your video and azure or other cloud provider solutions architect?
I'm developer with 10 years of experience and achieved several azure certification especially administrator associate (az-104). I will probably try to get the devops certification but I'd like try to also get the azure solution architect in the next 2 years.
My professionnal goal in short term is to be software architect but with cloud solutions so I guess to achieve azure solutions architect is a good choice. What do you think about my path?
Hi,
These are industry terms as opposed to vendor terms.
So a solution architect on aws will know aws services, a solution architect on azure will know azure services.
While a cloud architect is more of someone who designs the end to end solution regardless of this provider.
This same thing applies to network architect vs solution architects as well.
@@GoCloudArchitects thank you.
@@alpachinois Happy to help
very clear
Thank you!
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
#cloudhired
Azure Cloud Architect
Do cloud engineers code ?
Cloud engineers code but cloud architects do not code
@@GoCloudArchitects Yes, with the caveat that many companies and HRs mix these titles up all the time. There are lots of jobs called "cloud architect" that are really just senior cloud engineers skillsets. I'm not saying this reference model for describing the differences is wrong or not helpful- quite the opposite. But viewers will be confused when they see jobs that don't match what is described here.
Want to learn how to become the ultimate cloud architect? Attend our webinar, bit.ly/3U6dNF3
The best channel out there 💪
@@njabulohlatshwayo7015 thank you so much
With your help, I want to be AWS Solution Architect!
Hi Geni. We will do everything we can to help you.
So a Cloud architect is if a Cloud engineer & solution architect had a baby😂😂
Hi Celeb,
Not exactly. A cloud architect or solution architect is like a cloud engineer and a business executive in the same person.
The difference between a cloud architect and a solution architect is the cloud architect can help the customer design a solution on all clouds. A solution architect only knows one cloud. So a solution architect is like a junior cloud architect
solution architect
Hmm. AWS places Cloud and Solutions on different levels of hierarchy th-cam.com/video/jpZCg4sCz_o/w-d-xo.html than you. They claim Solution(s) architect to have higher level of abstraction, which (to me personally) sounds more natural. Cloud Architect can be fine knowing just a single cloud/vendor well. Not the case for Solution(s) Architects.
Hi Ivan,
All companies have their own names for their own positions. AWS is one of the many tens of thousands of employers who hire cloud architects
In most companies cloud architects design the multi cloud solution. Solutions architects design on a single cloud. Now 98 percent of end customers use more then one cloud. Thats why in most companies the cloud architect its a bigger role. The cloud architect sits in between the enterprise architects and the solutions architect.
This means the cloud architect will lead the solutions architects from various vendors, AWS, Azure, Cisco, Microsoft, Security vendors like Palo Alto to design the customers multi-cloud architectures
AWS is the exception in their naming. At AWS the cloud architect isn't really an architect at all. Its more of an engineering role with some technical design. Like a cross between an engineer and architect.