Steroids vs Natural: 100 Day Experiment

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  • Steroids vs. natural. Does a natty really stand a chance? To find out, I’m running a 100-day natural vs steroids experiment. Brandon will undergo natural training using my science-backed strategies, while Todd will undergo enhanced training by hopping on steroids. We’ll track their progress to see who comes out on top. With steroid use on the rise, I want to prove you don’t need them for great results. Or … do you? Let’s find out.
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    To get the best starting point data possible in this steroids vs natural experiment, we’re using DEXA scans and ultrasounds across all major muscle groups to know exactly where each person experiences the most growth. On Day 1 Todd is coming in at 183lbs and 19% body Fat. While Brandon weighs only 148 lbs but scores a lean 13.6% body fat.
    Compared to Todd, we have 2 major advantages in this natural vs steroids competition. First off, Brandon is lean, which means we can focus on gaining weight to maximize growth. Whereas Todd, an aspiring bodybuilder, will soon begin dieting down for his competition. Second, while Brandon isn’t a complete beginner, he’s not as serious of a lifter as Todd. In normal circumstances, this means Todd would build muscle about 3 times slower than Brandon.
    But we’re talking about steroids. These aren’t normal circumstances, and I’ll need to use every science-based tool I know to help Brandon supercharge his training. First, we’re choosing exercises that maximize this stretch across all his major muscle groups. Next, we’re getting him to actually train to failure. But while I was pushing Brandon with his workouts, Todd’s chemically enhanced body was already performing at a completely different level. So once steroids make their way into your muscle cells, they bind to a powerful androgen receptor. Once bound, they alter your muscle’s genetics to dramatically increase the rates of protein synthesis and recovery.
    So, although I’ve pushed Brandon’s natural training workout volume and intensity to his l limit, not only does every workout Todd do now lead to more muscle growth, he can also train longer and harder than Brandon yet still be able to recover from it. To make matters worse, Brandon also plays competitive tennis, which adds several hours of cardio on top of his workouts. Based on the research, as long as we get his nutrition down this shouldn’t impact his gains very much, but it was definitely starting to affect his motivation.
    So how much of a difference will this all make after 100 days? Based on prior research, beginner natural lifters can expect to put on about 3.7 lbs of muscle after 100 days of hard training. Those who undergo enhanced training, however, gain muscle about 3x faster, resulting in over 13 lbs of muscle gain within a similar time period.
    While Todd definitely had us beat the first month, he’s now spending the rest of his time dieting for his show. Which may slow down his muscle growth just enough for Brandon and I to close the gap. But only if we dial in Brandon’s nutrition. But this wasn’t easy. Brandon is extremely active, playing several hours of competitive tennis per week. So, even after eating 3,000 calories a day, Brandon was still struggling to put on weight. But after bumping up his nutrition even higher, we finally started to see progress on the scale. After bumping up his nutrition even higher, we were finally seeing progress on the scale. As for supplements, we’ve got a natural supplement we’ll be taking full advantage of - one that could give us as much as a 1-2lb boost in muscle throughout the 100 days. Creatine. I know 1-2 lb doesn’t sound like much, but considering natural lifters typically gain an average of 3.7 lbs of muscle in 100 days, even a 1 lb boost would be huge.
    So, what were the results of our steroids vs natural experiment? I’ve gotta admit, Todd’s transformation is an incredible feat, even with the help of steroids. And although Brandon built just one-third as much muscle as Todd, he still gained significantly more muscle than the average natural lifter (3.7 lbs) without spending every waking moment in the gym. As for the ultrasound results, while Todd did have us beat in most muscle groups, Brandon actually saw more growth in his delts, biceps, as well as one leg muscle (rectus femoris), likely due to the special exercises we incorporated.
    So while ​​I respect Todd’s choice to hop on steroids, in my opinion unless you're as dedicated to competing as Todd, or need testosterone for health reasons, the risks simply aren’t worth it. Brandon is proof that with the right approach, we natty can still make incredible progress without putting our health at risk.

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  • @JeremyEthier
    @JeremyEthier  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +275

    Hey guys! Just wanted to remind everyone to be respectful in the comments, especially towards Todd. Todd was extremely kind to be willing to not only be part of the experiment but allowing us to share the results online. Behind the scenes he was a pleasure to work with. He's also incredibly disciplined and worked his ass off to achieve his results. Lastly, keep in mind that he was dieting for his bodybuilding show. At the time of our final measurements/results, he was just 4 weeks out from his competition. For those unfamiliar, these last few weeks are BRUTAL. It turns you into a walking zombie, regardless of if you are using gear or not. I would be acting the exact same way if I was in his shoes. So please, let's remember there's a real human being on the other end of the computer screen :) . Thanks guys! Hope you enjoyed this one.

    • @VargVikernes1488
      @VargVikernes1488 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Tell him he needs jaw surgery at the very least to fix his apnea that he likely has

    • @jasonweis7890
      @jasonweis7890 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Please let Todd know how I respect his transparency.

  • @robertmusil1107
    @robertmusil1107 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +228

    Guys, don't be harsh on Todd. The guy was on a diet. 7% bodyfat. It automatically makes you more tired and irritated (high cortisol levels). It might come off a bit weird but this is mostly due to the stress you experience in a diet.

    • @Kumari_44
      @Kumari_44 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Bingo! Most eont understand though.

    • @TrapKingz.
      @TrapKingz. 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Im currently trying to diet down (calorie deficit) and like you said my cortisol levels are super elevated. It causes me to have crazy sleep disturbances and I don’t lose ANY weight at all. I don’t understand how the hell people workout intensly on a calorie deficit and elevated cortisol levels.. i feel like im not eating much and cant lose weight because my cortisol is so high it’s interfering with the fat burning process.. i dont understand wtf im doing wrong. Im taking phosphatidylserine which helps but still

    • @3komma141592653
      @3komma141592653 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      Well maybe Bodybuilding should reconsider what is a top athlete. This "sport" in general is fairly sick. Without damaging your health long term you can't even think of competing there.

    • @vemanthreddy4210
      @vemanthreddy4210 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ok.

    • @vemanthreddy4210
      @vemanthreddy4210 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Noice

  • @tack3545
    @tack3545 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +654

    5lbs of muscle with 0 fat gain?!!! That is insane. The bulk couldn’t have gone any better.

    • @RyanMiahH
      @RyanMiahH 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +61

      Noob gains are the closest thing a natty can experience to being on the sauce

    • @Satrrrrr
      @Satrrrrr 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      What is the insane ? Im actually gain 2.6 kg of weight and 1.3 kg muscle mass with -0,2 of fat gain. Now im sitting with 10% body fat.

    • @raresiova5546
      @raresiova5546 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      Except the calculation is wrong... See other comment

    • @eric1020
      @eric1020 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Satrrrrr what was the other 1.3kg made of LOL

    • @zunaedanwar5620
      @zunaedanwar5620 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      So that math wasn't exact. It's close to zero but there was a little bit of fat gain. He gained 5lbs of weight from 149lbs to 154lbs while his bodyfat PERCENTAGE remained the same. So while he did gain 5lbs of weight about 13.5% of that was from fat.
      The exact numbers for body fat are
      Before: 149lbs x 13.6% = 20.264lbs of fat
      After: 154lbs x 13.5% = 20.79lbs of fat
      Net Fat Gain = 20.79lbs - 20.264lbs = 0.526lbs of fat
      So overall, he gained just over half a pound of fat which is very little but not quite zero. Obviously, this is napkin math and it's a very small amount of fat but I wanted to point it out as I think it's an important distinction to keep in mind.

  • @iwanturasenganmaselv4456
    @iwanturasenganmaselv4456 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +212

    Brandon eating at a surplus and gaining 5lbs of muscle without any fat at all is crazy

    • @heroicninja2814
      @heroicninja2814 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +19

      Dude is active as fuck to not gain body fat percentage.

    • @deepakbisht4957
      @deepakbisht4957 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      That's normal for many Asians to be lean while eating a lot at the same time. I'm from India and I have genes from the Indian mountains. From birth, I have had massive calves, great shoulders, long biceps, and a lean body with abs. Although my forearms are small, they have great separation and insertion.
      I have never been to the gym in my life, but recently, for over a year, I started going to the gym and gained significant lean muscle mass. My body started looking muscular and lean at the same time and my calves never loose muscles. However, I don’t go to the gym regularly. Even when I stop going to the gym and maintain a good diet, my abs remain visible, no matter how much junk I eat. After 2-3 weeks, my body naturally returns to its lean form. So it's all about genetics...

    • @user-strength10
      @user-strength10 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      winter bulking season started early for him, hopefully he keeps it up

    • @nimblegoat
      @nimblegoat 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also think a nature of being young. I'm 59 gone from 98Kg to 85Kg while maintaining and growing some muscle. Probably eat 30% of what a ate playing rugby or being really active when younger. Not interested in huge muscles, just strong muscles, and no muscle loss, so don't have to do crazy eating regimes which i think are unhealthy for me. Should get a dexa scan as want some protective, beneficial fat , easy to pinch some fat when sitting on belly/kidneys , inner thighs- Apparently you have to be really lean to squeeze very little , definitely grown some muscle as gym will grow lats, traps, pecs, delts ,biceps and triceps as don't get same workout day to day life

    • @vemanthreddy4210
      @vemanthreddy4210 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Ok.

  • @nerdexproject
    @nerdexproject 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +547

    To me Todd proved how gear impacts you mentally. Body dysmorphia was real while Brandon seemed always really chill and had a nice transformation too.
    Stay natty folks.

    • @eryk4030
      @eryk4030 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +24

      And you just assumed that by watching a 1 minute clip, not knowing the person at all

    • @masterofalltrades_
      @masterofalltrades_ 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      and what happened to his balls and stuff

    • @RyanMiahH
      @RyanMiahH 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

      ​@@masterofalltrades_his baIIs are on vacation bro

    • @kakkakontent
      @kakkakontent 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      jeremy is not natty

    • @taylorhillard4868
      @taylorhillard4868 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      Lol dude he was cutting. Have you never been on a diet before? He looked downright spry and alert compared to what im usually like just cutting down to 15% lmao.

  • @usamatariq7388
    @usamatariq7388 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +941

    No disrespect to Todd or anyone working with steroids, but I'd rather look like Brandon than Todd. Todd had acne, scars, dysmorphia, 2.5 hours at gym. Brandon was smiling, playing tennis, still looking better than 90% of male population.

    • @3runrob
      @3runrob 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +55

      99%

    • @BablooTandoor
      @BablooTandoor 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +24

      Bruh nailed it. Consistency is easier by having a lifestyle like Brandon and ofcourse your longevity will also improve.

    • @satchitt
      @satchitt 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +21

      most roid guys look so ugly and smell bad too, roid guys on the internet are different from those irl . i have met a guy who has increased 15kgs lean mass just abusing roids and his body is completely out of proportion, huge shoulders mediocre biceps and very small pecs . not only that but this is just the tip of the iceberg of the problems hes about to face in life. NATURAL GAINS are supreme

    • @minted3d650
      @minted3d650 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      Totally agree, pretty sure Todd is out of it bc of the hefty diet though. Most people don’t take well to 7% body fat and are like that pre-competition

    • @RyanMiahH
      @RyanMiahH 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      Most people on roids don't even look like they're on it because they hop on too early and never learnt how to train and diet first. Or their genetic response to it is just subpar.

  • @TurnOneYeti
    @TurnOneYeti 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +322

    Todd at the end looked like he was lobotomized. Regardless, I wish him luck in his endeavors in professional bodybuilding and thank him for being apart of the experiment. It was very informative. Also thanks to Branden (Great gains!), and of course Jeremy, and his crew behind the scenes.

    • @sherr1306
      @sherr1306 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +60

      Yeah, that's not steroids, that's what hunger and 7% bf do to you. Unless you guys want to compete, don't go that low.

    • @ew-zd1th
      @ew-zd1th 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      ​@@sherr1306Thats Not real 7percent but Hes lean

    • @Tom-td6ic
      @Tom-td6ic 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +20

      @@ew-zd1thHe literally got scanned dog wym

    • @ew-zd1th
      @ew-zd1th 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tom-td6ic which method

    • @mrcalipride
      @mrcalipride 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      hes def not at 7%, maybe 10

  • @chilltraptastic4091
    @chilltraptastic4091 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +187

    Looked like Todd lost all happiness whereas Brandon was so full of life

    • @nicka5040
      @nicka5040 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Can't lose all happiness in life if you've already lost all happiness in life. 😎

    • @goop74B
      @goop74B 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@nicka5040 felt

    • @MillMillerz
      @MillMillerz 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He was dieting for a show. You can tell by how gaunt his face was at the end.

  • @Jauphrey
    @Jauphrey 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +64

    Yo, natural lifter gained 5 POUNDS of muscle in 100 days? Regardless of what Todd put on (which was also gnarly), that's way beyond what I expected was possible natty. Amazing job, Brandon.

    • @eric1020
      @eric1020 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

      This isn't that surprising for newbie gains. Slightly better than average for like 1 year training age.

    • @PinkeySuavo
      @PinkeySuavo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      2.2kg in over 3 months doesnt seem much to me actually

    • @Gerald-DLM
      @Gerald-DLM 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@PinkeySuavo thats because you are clueless on how much muscle can be gained by advanced lifters.

    • @PinkeySuavo
      @PinkeySuavo 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Gerald-DLM is he advanced though?

    • @vemanthreddy4210
      @vemanthreddy4210 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Ok.

  • @hjewkes
    @hjewkes 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    I’m listening to all the caveats - newish lifter, hadnt taken creatine before, other guy was on a deep cut, and am like “ehh the results are going to not be that representative”. And then those fucking results were still so insanely good for juice holy shit

    • @asentientkyle-3932
      @asentientkyle-3932 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Right?! I’m surprised there aren’t more comments like this. Dude was on a cut and put on that much muscle. Insane.

  • @ajseb
    @ajseb 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

    Honestly Brandon already had top natty genetics at 13% bf and being lean….most of us average guys are like Todd at 19% bf

  • @vanshupadhyay6289
    @vanshupadhyay6289 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    Kudos to Jeremy and both the other guys for running the experiment

  • @nathanpiazza9644
    @nathanpiazza9644 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +22

    I think Jeremy probably could have said a lot more with this video and probably tried to, but just couldn't to avoid pissing off the steroid mob (who are busy in the comments pointing out that being at 7% body fat is the reason Todd was acting like that, and definitely not because of steroids).
    By not making a clear value judgement, Jeremy allowed an honest conversation to take place, however, which is a public service. Thanks 🙏

  • @SquatSimp
    @SquatSimp 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +10

    Brandon saw huge gains! Only at a glance you can tell the difference. Great video - thank you for keeping it honest

  • @vaibhavthamman
    @vaibhavthamman 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +367

    While shredding body fat Todd also shredded his brain cells

    • @pouroverfinance
      @pouroverfinance 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      😂😂😂

    • @taylorhillard4868
      @taylorhillard4868 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      Yeah, being on a diet does that, lol

    • @hunter66630
      @hunter66630 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +19

      @@taylorhillard4868 It's not the diet bro, it's the drugs...

    • @RyanMiahH
      @RyanMiahH 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

      His skin in the after shots looks like sandpaper

    • @taylorhillard4868
      @taylorhillard4868 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@hunter66630 it might be a little bit of that, but as someone who has gotten that lean before, it's 99% the diet.

  • @xtianeskay5166
    @xtianeskay5166 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +165

    9:44 Todd acting a npc

    • @FirstnameLastname-pe5ib
      @FirstnameLastname-pe5ib 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +36

      Yeah I was like "what kinda reaction is this". Dude looked confused

    • @Josh_Exitcamper
      @Josh_Exitcamper 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +30

      He was tired from cutting weight…

    • @jernej.skoflek
      @jernej.skoflek 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      he is on diet low calories, and 65min cardio per day.

    • @mafuzzychefstanaccount9957
      @mafuzzychefstanaccount9957 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      I don't think there was a number Jeremy could have given him that would have satisfied him. But dude also looks exhausted!

    • @joezic
      @joezic 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@FirstnameLastname-pe5ib did you just quote yourself?

  • @zzt231gr
    @zzt231gr 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +35

    He can train every day...until he tears a tendon or two!

    • @eryk4030
      @eryk4030 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Is what would happen if you have no idea about training

    • @julius6521
      @julius6521 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@eryk4030 even with proper training, taking steroids greatly increases the risk of tears

    • @robertmusil1107
      @robertmusil1107 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Exactly. He should have covered that in the video. Muscle mass increases much faster than your tendons gain strength and repair. A lot of juicers will experience tendon tears or issues because of this. Tendons need more time to adapt.

  • @thehalokidster
    @thehalokidster 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +345

    Todd lost more personality than body fat, whilst simultaneously gaining more mental health issues than muscle!

    • @kissanjamm3583
      @kissanjamm3583 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Best comment

    • @eteryah
      @eteryah 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +23

      Because he's pushing into super low bodyfat, not because of the roids. He already had body dysmorphia before steroids, that's why he took them lol. Most mentally healthy people don't do steroids in the first place

    • @oftankoftan
      @oftankoftan 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

      he's on a show prep. everyone is absolutely miserable. also a severe calorie defecit actually reduce free test, so mentally he's even more miseable.
      once he's back on regular calories, he'll be better.

    • @DaBrute
      @DaBrute 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      He was a total zombie

    • @steviejrr
      @steviejrr 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      right

  • @Imtitled
    @Imtitled 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

    I think I'll be sticking being natty for rest of the life

  • @MeepMeep88
    @MeepMeep88 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    10:04 oh gawd.. That back and chest... They're just a bunch of little volcanoes hahaha

  • @HausFit
    @HausFit 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    I like the natty! What a change. So happy for you Brandon! 💪🏻🏋🏻‍♂️🔥

  • @northernninety7
    @northernninety7 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +16

    People take roids not realizing that people like Brandon have an ideal body, ripped but not overly big. I'd rather have his physique.

    • @zezeti2246
      @zezeti2246 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

      I think most people that go into juicing don't want to have an athletic looking physique like the rest of us,they want to get huge like those ifbb pros😂

  • @t1psy406
    @t1psy406 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +35

    Im always so impressed with your content

  • @TitusPaton
    @TitusPaton 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    bro got all the bad side effects of steroids

  • @hermansen123
    @hermansen123 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +23

    Brandon can also walk around feeling healthy and good, see his family, drive a car, without wondering when he will get hit by a stroke.

  • @danielnator123456
    @danielnator123456 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +31

    Stay natural boys.

    • @hanskazan7403
      @hanskazan7403 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      no

    • @OGTennyson
      @OGTennyson 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@hanskazan7403ok Todd💀

  • @rf9645
    @rf9645 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Huge respect Jeremy and to Brandon and Todd for taking part. For me I would never touch gear because there is no rush and the health risks are simply not worth it. Diet, a good workout plan, plenty of sleep and consistency are all you need to change your body and life for the better.

  • @jeriel991
    @jeriel991 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +87

    Bro did the steroids also burn his brain huh, why he acting so listless lol

    • @briand6558
      @briand6558 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +48

      7% bf will do that. One of the reasons no one stays that low

    • @zezeti2246
      @zezeti2246 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@briand6558I remember 6 years ago I went down to around 10%,I was all over the place mentally, can't even imagine how is for those guys going to 5-6%😅

    • @rafaelfreitas6798
      @rafaelfreitas6798 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@briand6558 there are plenty of fitness youtubers/influencers that stay close to that year round and act normal, maybe hes not used to it

    • @jernej.skoflek
      @jernej.skoflek 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      another idiot comment. low calorie diet + cardio every day with weightlifing session. 7% body fat, body acts like is close to dying and preservre energy

    • @Policyparagon
      @Policyparagon 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +15

      Crazy low body fat %, an hour of cardio a day + 2 hours of lifting, AND steroids which do affect mental performance.
      Todd is cooked rn. If he hops off the cycle and gets back to a 12% BF he will feel better.

  • @DwijeshDookraz
    @DwijeshDookraz 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I think its safe to say Todd ain’t hopping off any time soon. The look of pure disbelief at the end when he heard he was 7% bf speaks magnitudes. Probably put on more muscle in the last 100 days than the last year.

  • @WalkingStreets
    @WalkingStreets 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    It would've made alot more sense if they were both in the same weight class & height...

  • @chetan6752
    @chetan6752 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    I am already here, 50sec is crazy
    I love your educational content a lot

  • @Wenshu_Art
    @Wenshu_Art 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    You, Jeff, and Mike as emphasizes the stretch portion being the most important for growth. Jeff's new study says there's no difference. I am excited to see what your study is going to be

    • @doggo64
      @doggo64 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      He's not into research. Jeff wasn't the main person executing the studies and had researchers with PhDs and years of research experience. So no one person especially without prior experience can't handle a completely new study from scratch

    • @AnlamK
      @AnlamK 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Jeff's new study involved experienced lifters. I think these guys are a bit less experienced and lengthened partials work better for relatively untrained lifters.

    • @Voidermusic
      @Voidermusic 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      You're mixing the two up! In Jeff's study it was about doing lengthened partials, which means just 50% of RoM in the lengthened part to see whether it makes a difference versus full RoM training. Here it wasn't about training in the stretched position vs. full RoM, but about setting up the exercise in a way that the tension of the weight is highest in the stretched position. That's a difference. It's "Stretched position vs. full RoM" (Jeff) and "Highest point of tension in the stretched position versus low tension in the stretched position" (Jeremy).

    • @JeremyEthier
      @JeremyEthier  9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Voidermusic Exactly! Thank you :)

    • @Chickenwingsinthedings
      @Chickenwingsinthedings 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nah theres no difference in just doing half rep lengthened vs full ROM. Exercises that have the most stretch are best, then you wanna do full range and then half reps in the lengthened position to failure

  • @literezz7801
    @literezz7801 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

    Interesting video

    • @mohammedkhan8084
      @mohammedkhan8084 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yep, 1 minute in and you have already watched the whole video 😂

  • @joshuawoodard6998
    @joshuawoodard6998 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +99

    How do you get roids. Asking for a friend. 😂

    • @andychuang9160
      @andychuang9160 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Bro! 😂

    • @Parsons360
      @Parsons360 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +27

      If you don't know where, you're not ready

    • @rehmsmeyer
      @rehmsmeyer 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      Compounding pharmacy

    • @wilsonrvieira
      @wilsonrvieira 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      It’s for the experiment. All in the name of science! 😂😂

    • @ponyboy1664
      @ponyboy1664 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Off big Tony down the Duck and Fox. He's usually at the end of the bar, or providing unwanted, and usually incorrect, answers to punters playing the 'who wants to be a millionaire' quiz machine. He's a top geezer, is big Tony.

  • @itiagofilipe
    @itiagofilipe 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +42

    Is Todd right in the head?

    • @alkku0075
      @alkku0075 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +18

      Pushing your body fat that low is what that does to your brain. Just tired and brain fog all the time

    • @wizzle9902
      @wizzle9902 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      thats what you called “Roid Head”

  • @kko123100
    @kko123100 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    10:42 Conlusion summarized in one quote. Thank me later.

  • @DiorLeans
    @DiorLeans 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video!
    Both men did great!
    It proves you gotta do the work and have the meals in check.
    Great job guys!

  • @diskrisks
    @diskrisks 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Sent this to my straight female best friend and both her and I (gay man) agreed Brandon's (natty guy) body looked more attractive anyway. Of course, it's better to lift for your own enjoyment and fulfilment and not for other's validation, but if you were thinking of using steroids just to attract a partner, you're very mistaken.

    • @arunkarthikma3121
      @arunkarthikma3121 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yup, juiced bodies usually look unpleasant

  • @hou942
    @hou942 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +14

    Great vid, IMO, his cycle (what/how much) should have been shared. It wasn't and I understand why however, for new lifters/younger folks, they might see this and just think, that's it, gear and jump on something/anything in an excessive amount not knowing that Todd hypothetically was only on 300 test a week and not blasting potentially more harmful substances. Just my thoughts, cheers.

    • @xumu4
      @xumu4 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Looking at the chest, back acne and gyno - it is much more than 300 test, more like 100 tren and 500 test

    • @tkim90
      @tkim90 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@xumu4 not really, theres guys on legit trt (they are actually hypogonal) doing 100mg a week that blow up with acne, and theres bodybuilders doing 1g and nothing. Everyone responds differently.

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Your thoughts are wrong, no information which would encourage using it should be shared

  • @ghhfddres2323
    @ghhfddres2323 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Show us the 100 day workout!!!

  • @rajr9391
    @rajr9391 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I am happy being natural body builder. At the end it's healthy option to choose.

  • @human_being99_3
    @human_being99_3 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    9:45
    the moment when Todd decided to extend the 100 day experiment to 10.000 days

  • @sameerkapadwala4908
    @sameerkapadwala4908 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The level of research and dedication Jeremy puts in his videos and clients is commendable

  • @jarrahbailey
    @jarrahbailey 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +17

    i can smell the coach greg video incoming

    • @RyanMiahH
      @RyanMiahH 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      With his squinty eyes, hands all over the screen and his high pitched pissed off parrot voice.

    • @otomic6672
      @otomic6672 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@RyanMiahH 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @imanmasley
      @imanmasley 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ah damn i already commenting the same thing but you were early than me damnit

    • @cakescakescakes
      @cakescakescakes 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@RyanMiahH someone commented Greg is a chihuahua trapped in a bodybuilder's body and its my fave description of him hahahaha

    • @davecom3
      @davecom3 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's all his content is and he's become a multi millionaire from it.

  • @maximumnoise78
    @maximumnoise78 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Easy come, easy go.

  • @Sam_splatter
    @Sam_splatter 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Find a pair of twins to run this experiment. Infinitely better. Still, nice video

  • @SteelerNation3000
    @SteelerNation3000 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Respect to them both either way. Some crazy work put in. Hope Todd does well in his show and replenishes himself. He looks SO depleted at 7%

  • @bobbyalistor
    @bobbyalistor 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    imo the low bodyfat makes the mood worse than the steroids, we're not meant to be heavy with under 8-10% bodyfat. that explains Todd's restlessness

  • @rodolfotorres1602
    @rodolfotorres1602 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Jeremy, you and Jeff Nippard deliver some high quality and informative videos. Very nice.

  • @Boogawaga
    @Boogawaga 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The Tod's transformation is not just steroid, he pushed hard, so hard that you can kind of tell from his demeanor that his mindset is in a different place.

  • @swianr
    @swianr 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +12

    There's no way he's 7% BF in the end

    • @alaaentabi7879
      @alaaentabi7879 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      We didn't see his legs or glutes they might be shredded, also. It's obvious he doesn't hit abs

    • @alaaentabi7879
      @alaaentabi7879 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Plus on stage he'll look full, he's just depleted as heck

    • @cenciende9401
      @cenciende9401 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah sure medical equipment worth hundreds of thousands of dollars isn't as good at measuring fat % as your random nobody's eyes are by looking at a youtube video. Sure buddy.

  • @aleksandry.7213
    @aleksandry.7213 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Brandon gaining 5 pounds of muscle for someone who already kind of lifted while not gaining any fat at all ONLY over the course of 100 days is really good gains, i wish i could sustain that kind of growth

  • @danielmcgregor8803
    @danielmcgregor8803 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video and nice research.

  • @gmosworld
    @gmosworld 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is such a great video! No BS, just pure science. Steroids do work well, but it’s simply not necessary for most people.

  • @chibixleon
    @chibixleon 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Both of their transformations were unbelievable. Happy Todd got the results he wants but hopefully he stays healthy long term.

  • @lalescobar
    @lalescobar 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    wow. watched your vid about steriods yesterday and you said you're going to do a more detailed one. here it is. 🤘 awesome dude. from 🇵🇭

  • @olegnovitski6987
    @olegnovitski6987 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    This video just confirms that bodybuilding is mostly about genetics/muscle insertions/frame. If you don't have aesthetic physique to begin with, no amount of steroids will help you. Brandon is slightly above average when it comes to muscle aesthetics, while Todd is about average. Some people who do some push ups and pull ups can look way better than gym rats who spend all of their time in the gym and take steroids just because of muscle genetics.

  • @felipecj
    @felipecj 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing video, helps to see that most of the fitness industry lies when they say they are natural

  • @deepblouxstrength
    @deepblouxstrength 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Huge props to both Todd and Brandon for their commitment and hard work. I especially appreciate Jeremy's pinned note about being respectful towards Todd. I would like to share a thought - based on Brandon's starting appearance, rate of growth, and active lifestyle, I would argue that he has some pretty top tier genetics. I'm not sure gaining 5 lbs of muscle in 100 days without gaining any body fat is realistic for the average lifter. That said, I understand that the purpose of this video is to show that with serious dedication and discipline, a natural lifter can make INCREDIBLE strides in their health and fitness. Well done to both guys!

  • @WheyLandFitness
    @WheyLandFitness 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    09:48 todd doesnt seem happy with the result. Its a shame because he really made amazing progress but I have a feeling the body dysmorphia is stopping him from recognising that.

  • @nitrokill4419
    @nitrokill4419 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is the type of video that will get 2 million by the first two weeks. Well done jeremy ❤

  • @ashmitpahal
    @ashmitpahal 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bro This video is about to explode. Here is my contribution.
    Btw: that Guy on steroids felt like he traded his soul for gains

  • @gancismoka1910
    @gancismoka1910 3 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Crazy quality. Keep up brother

  • @Baiano29
    @Baiano29 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    19-7 is actually insane, even wirh gear. I work with people who use gear, and I never seen this kind of improvement in just 100 days

  • @ahwanpandey
    @ahwanpandey 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Good luck on the competition Todd! You'll do great 👊

  • @sion123ful
    @sion123ful 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +51

    seems the steroid guy also lost his brain together with the fat

    • @YonzyTV
      @YonzyTV 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      prep does that to you

    • @xumu4
      @xumu4 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Well, our brain is like 70% fat

    • @oliviervo6889
      @oliviervo6889 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +7

      7% body fat will do that to you.

  • @BishopBartholomewBones
    @BishopBartholomewBones 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    100 days on gear and very little change, what did he do wrong I assume his nutrition and macro nutrient guide was all wrong and he must have been doing exercises that didn't work for him crazy just crazy

  • @dc6953
    @dc6953 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Buddy was like, “Hm… I think I’ll stay on hear” (9:48).

  • @greenonionsalad
    @greenonionsalad 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    IMO brandon ended up with a much better physique

  • @vspades8076
    @vspades8076 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bro I missed 1 video then it's a study for steroids lmaoo

  • @CrownDasse
    @CrownDasse 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You guys not realizing Todd went all out, he's a damn monster. 2 hr lifting and 1hr cardio for 100 days is an impressive feat. Brandon tried hard too but you can tell he's got good genes to begin with.

  • @christiaaanC7
    @christiaaanC7 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Todd was being such a jerk. Don't get on steroids guys, stay healthy, phisically and mentally.

  • @dennis10512
    @dennis10512 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great video! I wish you had covered the specific side effects of steroid use. Obviously Todd was experiencing some of those side effects at the end and would have liked to hear his experience.

  • @somekindoftactics
    @somekindoftactics 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Please use the metric system along with imperial when talking about numbers. Also, mention the height when stating someone's weight. Thank you!

  • @TheGronkus
    @TheGronkus 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Fascinating stuff. What would be even more interesting would be comparative heart metrics across the 100 days.

  • @aadipai
    @aadipai 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'm gonna say it. TODD looks natural as fuck. Imagine taking roids and looking mid.

  • @davidnop9882
    @davidnop9882 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty cool experiment. Both guys have different genetics, different lifestyle, and different frame. I think it would’ve been a better experiment if Todd trained 30 days without gear, and 30 days with gear, then compare the results. Other than that, great to see the differences between natty and enhanced

  • @rajusingh-u7z
    @rajusingh-u7z 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Those steroids really messing up Todds brain, stay natural ladies and gentlemen.

  • @skept419-3
    @skept419-3 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing video! We need a redo with twins

  • @Ahmedoooba2
    @Ahmedoooba2 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    nartural guy is insane

  • @antonguidera6820
    @antonguidera6820 39 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Tod looks really happy about it too.... 😂

  • @lastsonofkrypton25
    @lastsonofkrypton25 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bradon looks healthier and happier, also he doesn't compete, so ,for me its a win. And as you said unless you're competing or thats your main source of income, then yeah , go for peds, but, you relly gotta take account for the risks.

  • @joedesi99
    @joedesi99 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent video. Worried about Todd’s mental health. Seriously.

  • @olegnovitski6987
    @olegnovitski6987 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This video just confirms that attractive face + wider neck + slight v-taper are more important that muscle bound body.

  • @jayleak_
    @jayleak_ 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I’d really like to see a quick few minutes interview with then both to see what their thoughts on the process were. With Todd, I’d like to know the side effects of him taking steroids & with Brandon, what he learned from working closely with you? I.e. were partials a game changer? How hard was the nutrition side of the plan.
    Great video though very interesting. I’m sure you have more footage/ results which I’d love to see if Todd & Brandon are happy to share?

  • @debduttmehra
    @debduttmehra 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    For me all it mattered that Todd lost all his happiness whereas Brandon was full of life...!! ❤❤

  • @zeke4493
    @zeke4493 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    More importantly, how much more was Brandon farting on the 3000cal diet? Can we pls see a Farts over Time chart

  • @markymars
    @markymars 7 นาทีที่ผ่านมา +1

    Make Todd Great Again! Bro looked cooked

  • @hockeyandsoccer4ever
    @hockeyandsoccer4ever 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wow. Thank you Jeremy, this is the push i needed. Going to start looking around for gear today!

  • @jernej.skoflek
    @jernej.skoflek 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    for thoes idiotic comments how todd acts like npc and this... he is at 7% body fat! low calorie diet + intense cardio with weightlifing session. so he is very tired, his body preserve energy.

  • @in_the_dark
    @in_the_dark 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Brandon has good genetics, in my opinion.

  • @bigbrotherzou2236
    @bigbrotherzou2236 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Huge respect to Todd for participating in this video. All the best in your endeavours and f*ck the haters lol.

  • @dexterbrown9681
    @dexterbrown9681 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    3 month and gyno is already showing and that back holy shit ...

    • @eryk4030
      @eryk4030 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      He had gyno to begin with. It can naturally develop during puberty

    • @snabel4393
      @snabel4393 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@eryk4030 yeah lets pretend like the steroids did nothing to contribute to his gyno

  • @rounaksubramanian1686
    @rounaksubramanian1686 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wow simply just wow bro you are doing a wonderful work for all of us by telling about this topic of steroids vs natural and keep it up and keep up the good work as always and take care
    Keep smiling always

  • @greenfacewitheyeplayz8663
    @greenfacewitheyeplayz8663 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Next can we see this test done with 2 REALLY skinny guys

  • @xingzhexin8843
    @xingzhexin8843 26 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    The calculation is wrong. If you put on muscle only, your body fat percentage would drop. Body fat percentage staying the same means you have more fat and more muscle while keeping the ratio the same. This is not calculating bone mass increase.

  • @elchicousana2
    @elchicousana2 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Well considering you were training Brandon for Fiber I and Fiber II soft failure method, and mainly with a HCLF diet, 5 pounds of muscle is huge. Maybe you could get double or triple with profound fatigue failure and a 7 days rest.

  • @VictorMatsunaga
    @VictorMatsunaga 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    One thing that most people here are not taking in account while commenting about Todd's mental situation is his body fat % and the fact that he diet down for a show.
    You WILL crash mentally when you're running so low in Body Fat, doesn't matter if natural or enhanced. Steroids can cause your brain to age, however, given how short the burst period was, I can only assume he had a really bad brain fog due to him going from 19% BF to 7% BF in a matter of around 14 weeks rather than the steroids themselves causing him to act like an NPC.
    Stay natty, however, also know that things are usually quite a bit more complicated than we can see in a snipped of someone's life through a video.

  • @somethingandahalf
    @somethingandahalf 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    To cut from what was it 19%? to 7% over 100 days or less.. thats amazing progress from Todd, definitely achieved what he set out to.. but no wonder he looked emotionless, crazy what low body fat % does to you, life is not only about looks my friends you also need to have the energy to live it. Brandon was well guided and his diet monitored and adjusted, given his active lifestyle his VO2 max is probably pretty good thats definitely helped him with extra gains, its like the body's natural drug

  • @macjack5978
    @macjack5978 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    At the end of the day it's a personal choice. Make healthy and responsible one. You can still look pretty good naturally and be functional in life with some hard work and patience. Being impulsive could cost you down the road.