Actually... the mistake is they jump off beat into 5 or 3 not really back to 1 You mentioned in the beginning that you would explain how dancing on 2 is better connected to the music but that never happened. F.W.I i teach both. And some people do try to switch from 2 to 1. However One is not better then the other, it's a different connection to the music. I enjoyed the video keep them coming 😁
Thank U so much for the thorough explanation. I initially learned Salsa on2 a long time ago then a decade later I started taking classes to refine it but they're based on1, so sometimes I jumped on2 by reflex, making my dancing partner confused a bit. As you well said, it's all a matter of rhythm & the musical beat. Cheers.
Thank you!!! This was soooo helpful 😍❤️ This is my struggle!! I’m Peruvian and learned by just listening to the beat, dancing with everyone Cubanos, peruanos, puertorriqueños, everybody. So the struggle is real 😄. Y’all are great teachers!!! Muchas gracias 💕
exactly - so i don't really see the point in going through the trouble if stylistically On1 and this version of On2 is exactly the same. Eddie Torres On2 is different because the slow is during the break step so the feel is very different. This version theyre teaching is basically On1 but on a different beat (following the conga WHICH is not a guarantee for all songs). I don't really care to learn this version since i don't see much of a difference and not all salsa songs carry a steady KunKun
Guys! you use "hold" and "slow" as 2 words with the same meaning. However, hold means stand still while slow means keep moving but slowly. In reality it isn't that we dance quick, quick, hold. We dance quick, quick, slooooow. Great explanation about the slow in the turns!! This is the best I've seen!
Thanks for the video! I'm hoping for some clarification. The "Kun-Kun" on the conga is the 4& as well as the 8&. So, are you marking the time on the 4 or the & and 8 or the &? Are you marking 8-2-3---4-6-7 or &-2-3---&-6-7? In other words, Are you marking the the 1st or 2nd "Kun"? I hope the question makes sense.Thanks!
Great vid! Thanks for the pro tips the thing that confuses me the most is that in my on1 classes, the men goes forward on 1.2.3 and in on2 classes the women goes forward on 1.2.3
Welcome! Yes it is a bit confusing but thats the difference between the 2 styles and of course what you are listening to in the music. My suggestion is to learn one style and master it first before trying to master another one. That may help!
Thank you thank you. For sharing what I felt for years. I am sending it to friends. Some do not speak English. I’ll do my best to explain it! Thank again . I will let you know more. Gracias
This is not correct. Dancing on 1 means your break step lands on 1 and 5 vs dancing on 2 when the break step is 2 and 6. They both use the 123 567 count
Hi my Name is Deto , i Followu both a surch long time . I really appreciate your dancing and I m asking ? is alright to say that on 1 is wrong way ...or you mean that what u show us in this video Thx
Great video thanks! Could you explain please if the 2 On2 for ladies would be Forward or Back? Here you’re doing it forward but I have studied the 2 going back and 6 forward. Which is correct, or why the difference? TIA! 🤟🏻😍
So is there a video where you explain how you can transitian from salsa on1 to salsa on2 and back and forth depending on the dancers preference that you happen to dance with. In other words as a follower how can you switch back and forth with leaders that dance some on one others on 2? Thank you love your videos
That would be rhythm not count. You can use the rhythm to get it in your body, but for most number make learning patterns easier. So I would recommend both instead of just one or the other.
Hello guys. I first started to learn salsa on2 at school and while attending festivals abroad I had to train myself to dance on1 too. It took me several months since I subconsciously go back to my on2 reflexes. Now my question is: do dancers really do the transition in the middle of the song? Is it common in the US? I think it's kinda rude on the part of the lead to do so lol 😙 I'm from Morocco and I've been to many European destinations to dance salsa, nobdoy did any transition from a salsa style to an other one. I'm juste careful at the beginning to guess which salsa style is my lead dancing and that's all. Never dealt with any dance partner switching between salsa styles.
Thanks for your feedback. And I guess you are very lucky then! lol. It is not only common in the US but all over the world. Many dancers come here to NY to learn to dance On2 and since they are very used to dancing On1, they switch ALL the time. Its not rude, its a very common and natural thing to do. Maybe its something you don't realize them switching the timing in the middle of the song, but you have to understand your timing very well to know if they switch or no, not just your steps. Hope that makes sense! Thank you!
On2 is not “more connected to the music” it’s just a different feeling than on1. Most extremely skilled salsa dancers who can do on1 and on2 well will never say that. It’s a good video but the on2 is better than on1 is very annoying. In my opinion both have advantages and disadvantages and some songs feel better on1 or on2.
Salsa on2 - follow start forward on right foot and lead starts backward on left foot, correct? Instead I see the lead in this video start off going forward with his right foot... does it not matter which foot?
I can appreciate that you're trying to explain this, but most student dancers will never understand these finer points of timing. The fact is there are even a lot of so called advanced dancers that routinely butcher the rhythm..
This is mambo. Not technically on2 salsa. Eddie Torres, in his instructional DVD, clearly marks 1 and 5 with either a stationary or moving full step. You can still emphasize the tumba's open tones by waiting to take the step with your right on 1 and left on 5 for leaders. That is strictly on2 as per Eddie Torres. I'd argue that this style of breaking on2 is a kinda flow that lends itself to certain songs but because she's already taken her right step on1 you've jumped the gun on some turns that initiate early in the count. Mambo is 234,678
Firstly, you would be way better showing the leader and follower foot steps difference between on one and on two. Then get the follower to start on the one beat but applying the on two footwork through the eight beats. The same for the guy, it needs more breaking down and not on the six seven start point, highly confusing
It doesn't help that you're talking over each other. The woman is actually confusing and clearly explaining the process. The guy needs to start the video and go through it as the only one speaking while the woman follows, and then perhaps he can have her make some brief comments. Otherwise, this video is not very good.
Actually... the mistake is they jump off beat into 5 or 3 not really back to 1
You mentioned in the beginning that you would explain how dancing on 2 is better connected to the music but that never happened. F.W.I i teach both. And some people do try to switch from 2 to 1. However One is not better then the other, it's a different connection to the music. I enjoyed the video keep them coming 😁
Thank U so much for the thorough explanation. I initially learned Salsa on2 a long time ago then a decade later I started taking classes to refine it but they're based on1, so sometimes I jumped on2 by reflex, making my dancing partner confused a bit. As you well said, it's all a matter of rhythm & the musical beat. Cheers.
Thank you!!!
This was soooo helpful 😍❤️
This is my struggle!! I’m Peruvian and learned by just listening to the beat, dancing with everyone Cubanos, peruanos, puertorriqueños, everybody. So the struggle is real 😄. Y’all are great teachers!!! Muchas gracias 💕
LOL. yes it is a struggle but its a beautiful journey so just be patient:)
So glad it helped!!
Excellent demo! I learned I need to hold to keep the time right. Thank you!
Great video I usually dance on 1 and couldn't figure out dancing on two. After this video i am good. Gracias
For me the best explanation of the On1 vs On2 transition. Thank you so much guys, you've levelled me up in 8min 34secs❤🙂🙏
Great to hear that the video was helpful! =)
I struggle with this a lot thanks for the great explanation
Great! Glad this can help!! Let us know if you have any questions!
Nice explanation; finally got towards the end when you started dancing to the music.
for my opinion, the timing you explain is more the son-timing (contratiempo) than eddie torres on2-timing?
exactly - so i don't really see the point in going through the trouble if stylistically On1 and this version of On2 is exactly the same. Eddie Torres On2 is different because the slow is during the break step so the feel is very different. This version theyre teaching is basically On1 but on a different beat (following the conga WHICH is not a guarantee for all songs). I don't really care to learn this version since i don't see much of a difference and not all salsa songs carry a steady KunKun
Yes, I noticed that as well
Guys! you use "hold" and "slow" as 2 words with the same meaning. However, hold means stand still while slow means keep moving but slowly. In reality it isn't that we dance quick, quick, hold. We dance quick, quick, slooooow. Great explanation about the slow in the turns!! This is the best I've seen!
Very helpful video, love your explanations esp the right and wrong way. Clear and easy to understand. Thanks a lot !
So glad it helps!!! Thank you for the feedback!
Hi! Thanks for the video, i's great...if it is possible, I'd like an explanation on why changing from on 1 to on 2 or vice versa, please!!!
Are you stepping on the 123 567 or on the 234 678?
Thanks for the video! I'm hoping for some clarification. The "Kun-Kun" on the conga is the 4& as well as the 8&. So, are you marking the time on the 4 or the & and 8 or the &? Are you marking 8-2-3---4-6-7 or &-2-3---&-6-7? In other words, Are you marking the the 1st or 2nd "Kun"? I hope the question makes sense.Thanks!
Great vid! Thanks for the pro tips
the thing that confuses me the most is that in my on1 classes, the men goes forward on 1.2.3 and in on2 classes the women goes forward on 1.2.3
Welcome! Yes it is a bit confusing but thats the difference between the 2 styles and of course what you are listening to in the music. My suggestion is to learn one style and master it first before trying to master another one. That may help!
Thank you thank you. For sharing what I felt for years. I am sending it to friends. Some do not speak English. I’ll do my best to explain it! Thank again . I will let you know more. Gracias
NY salsa is still dancing on1. If you step on 123 567 you are dancing on the tiempo.
This is not correct. Dancing on 1 means your break step lands on 1 and 5 vs dancing on 2 when the break step is 2 and 6. They both use the 123 567 count
Incredibly helpful! I learned salsa on 1 but now am trying to transition to on 2 and I keep slipping back …
Thank you guy's :)this help me a lot.
It was quite helpful. Thank you :D
thkq v much
Hi my Name is Deto , i Followu both a surch long time . I really appreciate your dancing and I m asking ? is alright to say that on 1 is wrong way ...or you mean that what u show us in this video
Thx
Great video thanks! Could you explain please if the 2 On2 for ladies would be Forward or Back? Here you’re doing it forward but I have studied the 2 going back and 6 forward. Which is correct, or why the difference? TIA! 🤟🏻😍
So is there a video where you explain how you can transitian from salsa on1 to salsa on2 and back and forth depending on the dancers preference that you happen to dance with. In other words as a follower how can you switch back and forth with leaders that dance some on one others on 2? Thank you love your videos
Thank You!
Could the count be simplified to just being Slow - Quick - Quick - Slow. Instead of using numbers. Numbers confuse me. Would you recommend that.
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That would be rhythm not count. You can use the rhythm to get it in your body, but for most number make learning patterns easier. So I would recommend both instead of just one or the other.
Oooooh this insight about using the rhythm to distinguish between 1 & 2 is SO helpful! I never understood the numbers and I’ve been dancing 20 yrs 😊
Awesome video. Can somebody tell me the name of the song near the end?
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Hello guys.
I first started to learn salsa on2 at school and while attending festivals abroad I had to train myself to dance on1 too.
It took me several months since I subconsciously go back to my on2 reflexes.
Now my question is: do dancers really do the transition in the middle of the song? Is it common in the US? I think it's kinda rude on the part of the lead to do so lol 😙
I'm from Morocco and I've been to many European destinations to dance salsa, nobdoy did any transition from a salsa style to an other one. I'm juste careful at the beginning to guess which salsa style is my lead dancing and that's all. Never dealt with any dance partner switching between salsa styles.
Thanks for your feedback. And I guess you are very lucky then! lol. It is not only common in the US but all over the world. Many dancers come here to NY to learn to dance On2 and since they are very used to dancing On1, they switch ALL the time. Its not rude, its a very common and natural thing to do. Maybe its something you don't realize them switching the timing in the middle of the song, but you have to understand your timing very well to know if they switch or no, not just your steps. Hope that makes sense! Thank you!
Thank you so much, I always do this mistake...
On2 is not “more connected to the music” it’s just a different feeling than on1. Most extremely skilled salsa dancers who can do on1 and on2 well will never say that. It’s a good video but the on2 is better than on1 is very annoying. In my opinion both have advantages and disadvantages and some songs feel better on1 or on2.
This was helpful
Salsa on2 - follow start forward on right foot and lead starts backward on left foot, correct? Instead I see the lead in this video start off going forward with his right foot... does it not matter which foot?
sorry guys but you dancing on the 8 and 4 beat that's the son counting... not on the 1 and 5 ? 123-567- 1 and 2 back 3 slow and 5 6 front 7 slow
How is this version of "salsa on 2" different from mambo timing??
so hold on 5?
You are tuning her on 2 and not on 3??? ( 1. 2 then turn fast o. 3 )
as a follower, it is an ABSOLUTE CRIME when they go to fast and don't do the hold. i injured my right knee
I can appreciate that you're trying to explain this, but most student dancers will never understand these finer points of timing. The fact is there are even a lot of so called advanced dancers that routinely butcher the rhythm..
This is mambo. Not technically on2 salsa.
Eddie Torres, in his instructional DVD, clearly marks 1 and 5 with either a stationary or moving full step. You can still emphasize the tumba's open tones by waiting to take the step with your right on 1 and left on 5 for leaders. That is strictly on2 as per Eddie Torres. I'd argue that this style of breaking on2 is a kinda flow that lends itself to certain songs but because she's already taken her right step on1 you've jumped the gun on some turns that initiate early in the count.
Mambo is 234,678
I just decided to leave Southern California where they dance On1( LA/OC) and move to a place where they dance mostly On2 (FL) 😂
Use a song that has more constant Congo so I can see on2 better.
Firstly, you would be way better showing the leader and follower foot steps difference between on one and on two. Then get the follower to start on the one beat but applying the on two footwork through the eight beats. The same for the guy, it needs more breaking down and not on the six seven start point, highly confusing
It doesn't help that you're talking over each other. The woman is actually confusing and clearly explaining the process. The guy needs to start the video and go through it as the only one speaking while the woman follows, and then perhaps he can have her make some brief comments. Otherwise, this video is not very good.
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que pena que no esté en español...
It would help if you didn't over-talk each other :)
They didn’t dance on 1 properly it was off
hmm... less words, more practise. Show the difference between salsa on1 / on2.
you're teaching so difficult. can't even understand 😢
I wish they would teach it correctly in the first place so people don't have to learn a transition. No rhythm dances use the one as a beginning.
Mostly pointless video