Not really. Basketball is offense, defense, and mentality. Jordan was fantastic as both an offensive and defensive player, and his mentality was unbeatable.
It does not end the debate for idiots, because 10 finals appearances is still more than six. Six 2nd place finishes is greater than none. And 39,000 points in a career is a bigger number than 30 ppg for a career. It's logical nonsense meets nonsensical logic.
@dennisdezarn5895 10 finals appearances and only got 4 championships to show for it everybody loves a winner not second place especially having the privilege of choosing which all-star who he wants play with. 39,000 points doesnt mean nothing compared to 10 scoring titles, that alone should tell you at any giving time jordan could of broke the scoring record but championships are more important than records.
@@dennisdezarn5895even idiots should know that 2nd place finishes don't count for anything in pro team sports. That would be like saying the buffalo bills are better than a team that actually won a super bowl because they finished 2nd four yrs in a row.
Gilbert and LeBron are the only two people in the world who understand basketball apparently; Gilbert has plenty of MVPs, DPOY awards, and titles to prove it…oh wait
I never understood the “but he makes the right play” argument. What that really means is he makes a pass to a shooter at the perimeter 90% of time. Any average NBA point guard could make that play. But having the ability to consistently make a shot down the stretch no matter what the defense gives you makes you 10x more valuable for a championship team.
He "makes the right play" because he can't get backlash from missing. All he has to say is, "Welp it was the right play!" He only takes the last shot if it's meaningless. Where missing just causes overtime. I love how he's a "PASS 1st" player yet has 1ppg less than Kevin Durant. It's all about narratives with Lebron and the media and himself are great at manipulating it. Just like how he "makes players better" by turning them into spot up shooters.
Yep. It's a false narrative to use LeBron's weakness and make it seem like a strength. He doesn't want the moment, and when he has taken those shots, he hits them at a very low %. LeBron is a choke artist, and his people try to turn this weakness into a strength using media manipulation. I'm tired of it. LeBron is just a more hyped version of Karl Malone. Complete with the flopping and choking.
If MJ and LeBron played on the same team LeBron making the "right play" most of the time would be passing to Jordan to make THE play. The simple fact is the"right play" is the one that wins you the game. If MJ has almost 50% FG percentage in shots to either win or tie a game in regulation or OT with 5 seconds or less(LeBron is 18%) why wouldn't getting the ball in Mike's hands be the right play? The reason fans have a higher fondness for guys like MJ and Kobe taking the shot over LeBron dumping it off is because of pressure. That challenge of being the person responsible for winning or losing a game. It's that simple.
That's code for he's the type to run from the responsibility of the last shot. All legendary players want the last shot but Bron makes the right play by driving and kicking right?
Yeah the guy that's tied for the most All-Defensive First Team in NBA history could "only score", right? I think Gilbert is just going all in on the shock value statements. I don't want to believe a former player can be this ignorant
So what made Gilbert fall in love with lebron is the center left the game and bron realized he had an advantage? Meanwhile Jordan just dunked over 7footers lol man Gilbert is such an idiot 😂😂
SWEAR I was thinking this as I seen your comment. MJ played in era of dominant big men who controlled the paint and he still scored at will unlike Bron who let Tyson Chandler and Andrew Bogut lock him up 😂. Tht there is even a debate for Bron shows the power of Klutch and how the media manipulates narratives🤦🏽♂️
Honestly ye but Yk the fans would have been mad ash shaming the ref for making the right call you know how much Lebron dickriders would have been at his throat
I've never seen a player get so much Credit for Passing especially when LeBron is not Half the Floor General that guys like Magic , Jason Kid & even John Stockton were.
They always say he makes “the right decision”. I can’t stand people that don’t keep it real. He doesn’t like the pressure so he defers to another player. This, as we have seen, not only takes the pressure off himself but also the blame. As much as I appreciate everything he does for people outside of basketball, No all star player has ever had more excuses than him.
They cover up for LeBron's weakness with late game free throws. He actively avoids getting fouled late in the fourth quarter if they're behind. That's why often we've seen him pass or settle for a 3 on a size mismatch.
@@jordanjenkins1671 that too. For sure. But it’s the scapegoating that I don’t like. I mean, people are watching. People that watch ball and ain’t star struck observe what’s happening. And I’ve watched him, on several occasions pass to another player, who didn’t always have a better look and who wasn’t the person that would make that clutch shot, then after they miss he’d throw his hands up in the air or have a disappointed look on his face. But in actuality he was too scared to miss and basically made a decision to throw the ball away, without actually turning it over himself.
Excellent point. I think one of the reasons why so many people don't like Lebron is because he gets so much ridiculous protection by the media. Like, if everyone were more honest about his shortcomings I think a lot of people would warm to him more. It's like him standing out there saying "I want my damn respect" to which my response "Well that's too freakin' bad okay?" The thing Lebron and his sycophants don't understand is you cannot force people to call you the goat. That's not how it works.
@@jordanjenkins1671 Size mismatch?, he's usually bigger than most the centers in the league. This is why against Warriors he ALWAYS plays, he's heavier than the center and nearly as tall, often plays interior position because rebounds are so much easier against that team., and no rim protection.
"The right decision" depends on the team you're on. If you're the guy that shoots 45-50 fg% and 80-85 ft% all game, you are probably the right guy to be taking the shots when it matters. If you're the guy that can shoot 30-35 footers and make them 40% of the time and you're on fire, it's probably the right decision to take the shot. If you're the guy that can only make dunks/layups with a consistent 70 ft% and the paint is clogged up but you are a pretty good passer, it's probably the right decision to pass it. The way these dudes make it all about Lebron is absolutely insane. Each team is going to the best options they have to win the game, that is the right decision.
Gilbert says "Jordan would have averaged 60 and said the hell with it". I have to wonder what he has against Jordan because it is no secret that Jordan put winning over everything. Arenas knows this.
Yeaaaa, I don’t think DILbert watched MJ in the early years or even “The Last Dance”…MJ clearly stated “I’m going to win at ALL cost”, the guy was injured and told to sit out and STILL played, but sure MJ just cared about scoring 😂
@@bGzzzzz And let's contrast that with Lebron's actions this last season. Lebron, when it came time to pass Kareem's record, broke said record, had everyone stop and applaud him, then played about another 3 minutes, then pulled himself from the game and didn't play another minute. Now Lebron did break Kareem's record, that is a huge accomplishment, but you know what happened to the Lakers in that game? They lost, to the tanking Thunder that didn't have their top pick from that year due to injury.
In pressured times LeBron doesn't always make the right decisions, he choked in 2011. I get Gilbert played in the NBA but that doesn't mean he can get away with his disrespect and wrong takes. Jordan was great on offense AND defense.
Or or or Jordan players was better putting the ball in the hole😒 how many assist u think lebron would have if his teammates was able to knock down their shots😒 or take it to the paint seeing they're shots aren't falling 🤷🏾♂️ Jordan rookie yr he had a 20ppg play and a 16ppg player look up the roster
For all the nonsense about _making the right play,_ Jordan & Kobe won more often in the Finals. They also have equal or better win percentages against championship contending teams in the playoffs too. And I'll never forget LeBron James passing the ball to Ben Wallace with the game on the line. Unless it's a direct alley-oop or pass to the rim, that's the equivalent of a turnover & a horrible basketball play. They're all-time great players so they all make sacrifices to make to make their teams better & win.
he just going to brick his shot if he takes it that's why he pass the ball instead, i rewatch how he attempted to win or tie the game against the nuggest in the WCF,, He LeFailed😂
LEBRON IN TREE SEASON HAVE MORE 30 POINT AND 9 SEASON OF 8,5 AST LEBRON 19 SEASON STRAIGH WITH 25 PTS PER OR MORE FOR SEASON MICHAEL SEASON 2001 22 PTS 2002 20 PTS IS TO DIFERENCE
It was Jordan’s job to score and take the best shots he could get without forcing it. He’s a shooting guard. When he played point for awhile he had over 10 assists per game. He is also one of the best defenders ever. For example when they were playing Utah with the bulls behind he would do things like strip the ball from Malone and go down and score the game winning shot. That’s literally complete control of the court/ball. That’s what his job was. His team had specialists for things like rebounds Dennis Rodman. Shooting 3’s Steve kerr, paxon. All around player like pippen, tony kukoc and their tall layers like grant and longly for rim protection. Jordan was just doing his job .
I've watched enough of this channel to have seen Uncut Hoops praise and defend LeBron at times. He just doesn't put up with bullcrap takes that lie for LeBron and tear down past greats to elevate LeBron.
I swear Gilbert Arenas has to be on Lebaby's payroll because the decoy comment is exactly what Jordan and every great did all the time. I also guess he forgot Paxon and Kerr closing Finals because of him trusting his teammates.
"Makes the right basketball play" So did Jordan. Because he was such a great clutch scorer, the right basketball play was for him to get the ball and everybody to get out of the way 😆 You'd never see him settle for a 3 against a smaller player because he's afraid of the free throw line late in the game.
You mean because of the level of competition in the 90's, the right play was always for Jordan to take it to G league-level talent with no athleticism or versatility. Jordan's advantage was that he was supremely more athletic than anyone in the 90's and the only guy who could guard him was on his team. Oh and that he had the best roster in the league to boot as well.
@@phillyphan1346best roster?! 🤣 Jordan routinely did more with less. His team didn't go out and get all stars. They kept things rolling with bottom of the round draft picks. Remember: Rodman was on his way out of the league after quitting on the Spurs when the Bulls signed him. He was no all-star, and on his way out of the league. LeBron has played with more than 3 times as many all-star players as Jordan, yet has fewer accolades across the board, including championships.
@@phillyphan1346 nobody said Rodman was. Facts are facts though. His craziness and antics had nobody willing to deal with him. He was on his way out of the league, period. The Bulls turned his whole career around. He's the only notable FA the Bulls ever signed during the Jordan era. Everyone else after the Pippen/Grant draft in 1987 was a low draft pick.
"Makes the right basketball play" Tell me how many games you can remember were won because of LeBron passing to somebody else to take the shot??? All I can remember is Korver, George Hill, and Danny Green missing those assisted shots and the media criticizing LeBron for passing instead of trying to drive, be willing to get fouled, and make clutch free throws.
Wtf are these other players getting paid for😂🤣 yall crazy😒 but give Ray Allen to much credit 🤦🏾 if lebron didn't go on that 16 point run to bring the heat within distance of that shot even making a difference 😒 it would've been just another 3🤷🏾♂️ kyrie 3 pointer didn't save the game😒 lebron block stop gsw from scoring 😒 lest take kyrie 3 away 🤔 lebron was the last to score with the free-throw which gives the cavs a 1 point lead 😒 gsw never scored after which mean either way lebron team wins 😒🤔 TONI ,PIPPEN RODMAN AND OTHERS WAS THERE WHEN JORDAN HAD BAD GAMBLING NIGHTS AND HAD TO SHAVE POINTS!!!!!
@PeteSReynaIII ok what about bosh only having 7 point in that game 6 vs Boston when lebron had 45 points 15 rebounds??? Bosh should've at least had 15 rebounds 🤦🏾 let Dennis Rodman play like that😂😂😂
It’s not that lebron trusts his teammates. It’s that he doesn’t trust himself to be THAT man. That way people can give an excuse on how the teammate missed the shot & make the teammate the scapegoat.
2018 Finals game 1 is proof of this. Bron is having game of his life, has Curry guarding him 1v1 at top of the key and instead of attacking he passes to George Hill and the rest is history. Decisions like tht are why it hard to call him one of greatest scorers despite him being #1 in total
@@tdup191I was rooting for Lebron those 4 years in Cleveland. I forgot all about how George Hill wound up with the ball in the first place. Its interesting how 100% of the blame went to JR.
@@Dipset415 Hill didn't miss, he got fouled on the pass. Bron still should have forced them to foul him and he go to line himself with chance to take lead
I gotta respect Gilbert Arenas commitment to constantly have the worst takes on weekly basics MJ averaged 6apg in playoffs. Which is above his regular season average of 5. MJ was a extremely willing passer so saying that "Ah yea. MJ would score 60 and call it a day" is so disingenuous and straight not true
Great take on Gil having the worst takes. Some of the insane things he says makes me wonder if he just says them to generate traffic and comments on his channel.
@Romny… Bro 6 assists per game is #1 all-time for SG’s… Mike averaged 5.4 per game career…. 5.7 per game in the playoffs… and exactly 6 apg in the Finals. He was one of the best passing SG’s ever.
Per game all-time at his position MJ is 1st pts, 1st blk, 2nd stl, 3rd reb & T-5th ast. That’s top 5 in every category, top 3 in 4 outta 5 categories. Per game all-time at his position Lebron is 1st ast, 2nd pts, 11th stl, 13th reb & 18th blk. That’s top 5 in two categories, top 3 in two. The only category Lebron betters MJ relative to their position is assists… and that’s the only thing he’s ever ‘had on’ Mike. Not Lebron but MJ is the best and most complete player ever. So just know when you hear them say ‘Mike didn’t pass’…’mikes not an all-around player’…’mikes just a scorer’ bla bla bla, it’s all lies. They can’t tell all this truth about Mike and have people believing Lebron’s better. So they lie constantly.
The “right play” gave bron a whole lot of L’s! So if Jordan was making the wrong plays and still making the big shots and going 6-0 in the finals then screw the right play ! Some can say bron was being passive because he was scared of the moment. The only way Lebron is in this goat convo is by people like Gilbert making hypothetical arguments which is telling. And young kids hear Gilbert and blindly nod their head in agreement because they don’t have context and nuance on how great Jordan was at winning and playing and involving his team. So they think Jordan was just a scorer smh
This is a cop out argument. Everyone knows that the big time players need to hit big time shots. LeBron "making the right play" isn't always passing to a wide open scrub on the corner. That dude is a scrub. LeBron needs to take that shot and he usually doesn't. Also, I wonder how many of LeBron's amazing assists are just him handing the ball off to a shooter running by him and using LeBron as a screen? Or just LeBron making a simple pass to an open guy right next to him? You can't compare his passing to Jordan and Kobe's ability to take the burden on themselves. Sometimes, the right play is passing, but you gotta be selective on that. LeBron almost always puts the burden on others when HE is the leader.
We all don't know what Jordan and Bryant would've done with lefruad's cavs teams. Also the east for most of the time Lefraud time with the cavs was a joke.
Idc what anyone says. If kobe or jordan had wade and bosh they wouldve won 2011. They also wouldnt have got swept agaisnt kd warriors no matter what year
00 Dilbert - “give MJ the 07 Cavs and they’re not making the playoffs” Ok - if we go by that logic, then give MJ all the Olympic team LBJ played on and the Heats 2011-2014 and he’s winning Gold/Chip in each of them 🤷♂️
One stuck with his team as they slowly improved individually and improved as a whole, instilled a winning mentality and performance standard. The other bailed to florida because shit got hard. Like it or not the way MJ pushed himself and his teammates made them better. Very true it wasn't for everyone but it was key it forging that bulls teams. Everyone knew their roles and did them exceptionally well.
MJ was once assigned the role of play maker and had more than 10 assists for a sequence of games...and that made him have a sequence of triple doubles in those games as well. LBJ could do that only in his dreams...
88-89 season, he had 10 triple doubles over an 11-game stretch, and on 4-7- 89 against Detroit, was three rebounds short of going all eleven. Even still, he averaged 32.7 pts, 10.8 reb, and 11.4 ast.
When Jordan played point guard his stats were: 30 ppg, 9 rebounds per game, and 10assists per game, with 3 steals per game for good measure. I'd call that an all round player. I believe if Jordan kept playing point guard for his whole career, he'd still have GOAT status, except we'd be calling HIM the greatest all round player of all time as well. Jordan had defenders second, and third guessing their decisions. It was marvelous. Wish these casual fans today could've seen him play in his prime. But because they didn't see MJ in his prime, all they can do is judge by highlight videos, and stories from NBA legends. Basically anyone that played Jordan in his prime all say the same thing. They all say that they feared him. It's a shame that there's generation now that'll never know what dominance looks like. It's shameful that Arenas would stay things to attempt to discredit Famers simply because he isn't.
Gilbert acts like Michael Jordan played and thinks like him. Jordan is not Gilbert just cause he scored a lot. Also what did being "pass first" against Dallas in 11' get him LeBron".
They lie about how good LeBron is/was, they lie about how bad his teams were/are, they lie about how good other greats were and how good their teams were, they credit one player with something they slam the next guy for, they simply cannot talk about this stuff honestly or consistently lol I'm embarrassed for these clowns.
27 ppg isn’t top 3 in scoring 7 assists per game isn’t top 20 per game in assists 7 rebounds isn’t top 50 per game in rebounds and Lebron isn’t top 3 in p.e.r. and all that in a no touch era 😅😅😅😅😅
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 10. Steph Curry 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,073✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 78.00✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
@@TerryLanda-fj9ivlebron is not better than no damn kobe you must've lost your damn mind you could post all the stats you want it don't matter he'll never be better than kobe😂
Analyst? Nah he's an Opinionist, A Take-Talker, a Taker...Takes money for spitting BS Takes. Imagine Jordan begging for a Big to be taken out so he can attack the basket lmfao. Also, that's not being a decoy, especially if even Gilbert saw LeBron beg the coach, it was a Coward's strategy. It's like Gilbert comments on players' game style instead of what they actual accomplished and never supports his BS with actual stats or historical facts. It's like him and Perk are trying so hard to be the next Barkley but both lack Barkley's intellect, sense of humor, wit, cool, and actual analytical critical thinking skills.
Good vid. Arenas trying to get pub...glad you're calling him out. LeFlop does such a great job of trusting his teammates? This coming from a self-described "I don't care who's in the game, I'm chuckin'!" So how would he know the first thing about tactics and team-play? LeBra did such a good job in trusting his teammates, that he left them high and dry in Cleveland, TWICE! Same in Miami. Went to LA, didn't win cuz he couldn't make his team better, so then he trusted his teammates so much... that half the roster was traded away (and 2 first round picks) to get AD. THAT'S TRUST, GIL-BEAR?
Jordan was 9 times all defensive first at the same time as scoring champ. That really shows how much of a beast he was on both ends. Also steals champ at the same time as scoring champ. Something that never gets mentioned. Jordan is top 5 in both totals and per game averages in both scoring and steals. Some players maybe both for one stat but not 2. Jordan took it to another level in the finals especially the first 3. 91-- average 11.4 assists per game highest for anyone not Magic. 92 - - average an impressive 42% for 3s and in game 1 shot six 3s in a half which was a record for 18 years until Ray Allen the only person to shoot more in a half 93-- average 41 points per game highest ever.
Every Finals MJ was out to prove definitively that he was the best in the game. In 91, he is playing the best point guard ever, so he not only averages 30+ but also 11+ assists a game. In 92, they said Drexler was a better 3 point shooter, so he shut that talk down right from the jump In 93, Barkley won MVP but Jordan was the best in the world
@@J23LA24 Finally someone else who notices this, YES, he dropped an BUNCH of assists on Magic, 3's on Drexler, also, notice when he dunked on Motombo... used his own taunt against him, same with Mourning. He was a cheeky bugger.
Lol Bron was a decoy until they took the big man out the game😂? I guess that was the case when the cavs were down 3-1 and bogut got injured😂😂😂phuck this Era of basketball
See guys what happened in game 6 of the 97 finals is Jordan was just shooting cause he’s a shot jacker and it was such a bad shot it landed in Steve Kerrs hands and he happened to be open. This proves LeBron is better right? 😂
Gil don't know wtf he talking bout , Jordan play defense great , he just mad he couldn't do the things jordan could . 6 championships n taking a couple years off still came back to win 3 championship, plus Jordan didn't try to go to super team to win championships
Gilbert says things for clicks because he knows there's a following he can get from younger kids who doesn't know better or to appeal to other fans who favor the new school over the old guard.
@@TerryLanda-fj9iv I gave an opinion based on his lies. Ok here's a fact, he said his first game he against John Stockton he gave him buckets. But when you look that game up, he actually scored the same as his jersey number "0". The 2nd game he scored 6pts and his 3rd game he scored 19. In all 3 games John Stockton out scored him. Hes the liar and a clown like you. Now you go and look that up and see who is making up lies.
Arenas at the end was delusional with his take. Like seriously if you win doing what you're doing then all the power to you. The problem is it didn't, and it toom Lebron around 10 years to realize that as a superstar you have to trust yourself first in clutch situations. Youvtake the shot, not somebody else.
Stop comparing Lebron to MJ. MJ has six rings on one team. Lebron is just a good recruiter. Lebron James - 10.4 percent - Counting only regular season games, ESPN reported that in a 10-year period from 2007-16 NBA players shot 22.7 percent with a chance to tie or go ahead in the final five seconds. LeBron was 10.4 percent (5-for-47). LeBron James Has Only Made 19 Of 107 Shots In Clutch Situation During His Career: 17.8% FG, 12.5% From 3-Pointers Michael Jordan Playoff Clutch Shooting Stats (years: 89-93): Last 5 minutes, Score within 5: 51.4 FG% (76/148) Last 2 minutes, Score within 3: 56.1 FG% (23/41) No one does it better. The NBA average on clutch shots in 2013 was 28.3%. Throughout his career, Jordan's stats show a 50% success rate in clutch shots, while LeBron, for now, has a 29.6%.
Kobe took a starting lineup of bench player to the playoffs in back to back years in the West. No doubt he would’ve been able to take those trash Cavs teams deep into the playoffs
@@RichardRennes LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🥱 LeBron 38,652 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history not top 10 player all time that's what his individual stats says
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🥱 LeBron 38,652 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 14. Kobe Bryant Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history not top 10 player all time that's what his individual stats says
Magic Johnson ? For a player that had the ball in his hand us much as he does Lebron should have more than 1 double digit assists season and he went after it that year because it was a media narrative
It’s been said on here… but I have to reiterate… 9x 1st Team all Def DPOY 3 Steals titles Only SG in history to be top 5 among guards at both blocks and steals More blocks per game than Lebron When he did play PG for a stretch in 89 I think… he almost averaged a triple double.
Gilbert lost to LeBron at his peak so he has to hype up LeBron to make himself feel better about losing to LeBron. Just because he beat you gil doesn't mean he's the goat 😂
Gil said LeBron waiting until the big left the game like duh that's why they changed to small ball because Roy Hibbert of all people all most got Miami up out of there he would wait till Roy was put of the game to attack mj an kobe don't have to wait because they never had the self doubt LeBron has an had.
I honestly think Gilbert has chosen to be a troll. There's no other explanation for his dumb takes. He knows better... but uses these bad takes to get clicks, likes and attention. Textbook troll behavior.
I really admire players who can make the right play. Like Ron Harper, so underrated, his decision makng was on point. Matter of fact, he always chose to pass it to Michael who then proceeded to win the game for his team. Yes, Ron Harper might actually be the goat now that I think about it, he really understood the game.
Jordan never lost in the Finals, never lost in Playoffs with home court advantage. Lost 1 series when he had a lead ever. Didn't lose 3 games in a row from November 1990 thru June 1998. Won Scoring Title, Steals Title, MVP, DPOY and had over 200 steals and 100 blocks in the same season in 1988. Won 25 out of 26 series from 1991-1998. In Bill Russell's 8 championships in a row, he won 24 out of 25 series. Jordans Bulls have 4 of the 12 repeat championships since 1970 and 2 of the 3 3peats since 1970. He won his 1st and last scoring titles 11 years apart (1987 & 1998). The longest span ever. He won MVP 10 years apart (1988 & 1998) the longest span ever. Ok your turn for impressive things that nobody else has ever done, name here_________
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 10. Steph Curry 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,073✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 78.00✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
@@asundelgun3487 Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. LeBron James 3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 6. Shaquille O'Neal 7. Tim Duncan 10. Steph Curry 14. Kobe Bryant Bleacher report has Kobe #14 PPG: LeBron RPG: LeBron APG: LeBron SPG: LeBron BPG: LeBron FG%: LeBron 3pt%: LeBron FT%: Kobe TS%: LeBron PER: LeBron WS/48: LeBron VORP: LeBron MVP's: LeBron FMVP's: LeBron Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2) LeBron better player then Kobe Field goal% LeBron 50.5%✔️ Kobe 44.7% Points scored career LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time) Kobe 33,643 LeBron 1st all time points Kobe 1st all time missed shots Total 3pointers made LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,827 Total Steals career LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time) Kobe 1,944 Total Blocks career LeBron 1,073✔️ Kobe 640 Defensive win shares LeBron 78.00✔️ Kobe 50.66 Assists Leader LeBron 1✔️ Kobe 0 Career highs Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record Career highs LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters LeBron 5✔️ Kobe 1 2010 NBA finals Game 7 Lakers 83 Celtics 79 Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points 2013 NBA finals Game 7 Heat 95 Spurs 88 LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings 2011 NBA playoffs Mavericks 4 Lakers 0 Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
You would think Gilbert never played ball to say Jordan could only score. Him and Kobe are literally two of the best scorers and perimeter defenders ever who were also fantastic play makers. It's not like they score 30 and get just one assist per game. The right play? Get out of here. I want my best player to be able to take over and create a shot when needed. It's so much more valuable to have a threat like Kobe and Jordan. My point guard can make "the right play/pass". Kind of a cop out to just kick the ball to a role player for a clutch shot. Why use hypotheticals like they wouldn't make the playoffs with that 07 or 2018 Cavs team when we don't know that. Kobe carried below average nba players to the 7 seed/1st round in 06 and 07, and that's in a much more competitive western conference.
I have a friend that uses Gilbert arenas takes to debate me and I can't explain to him that the only reason he could ride with those takes is because he's never played basketball irl. Dude literally doesn't know how to dribble but tells me modern NBA players are better and more skilled and that it's not the rule changes allowing much more offense with travels and carries not being called. I just don't understand how I can take someone's opinion seriously when they don't know how to shoot/dribble/pass/defend irl and think I am crazy for saying the game isn't as good as it was in the 80's-90's. They get their takes from football players like Shannon Sharpe and keyshawn 😂 or hoopers with agendas 😂 like gil
I stopped when I saw the subject "NBA Legend". Gilbert Arenas is nohing even remotely close to an NBA Legend. He's a guy who was a pretty good player for about 2 or 3 years and then got himself kicked out of the league. He never won a thing. Funniest part is that he criticises jordan for being nothing but a scorer, when Arenas was literally exactly that - the guy played zero defence and did nothing else at a high level. He was an ISO heavy chucker. with zero basketball IQ.
He is NOT an analyst at ALL
doesn't he smoke weed online?
Analysts are not athletes but they damn sure talk as if they are.
He's definitely NOT a "legend"
@doktor3196 what smoking weed has to do with anything...I smoke weed I can still analyze things
@@doktor3196 Get back in your cave, man
Essentially, basketball is just offense and defense. MJ was great in both.
Not really. Basketball is offense, defense, and mentality. Jordan was fantastic as both an offensive and defensive player, and his mentality was unbeatable.
This right here..makes it ALL simple😂🔥
Having a DPOTY and 6 championships over lebron ends the GOAT debate.
Not to mention 10 scoring titles, 3 steals titles, & 6 FMVPs.
@atlien1988 💯💯💯 im still trying to figure out how was this was a debate to begin
It does not end the debate for idiots, because 10 finals appearances is still more than six. Six 2nd place finishes is greater than none. And 39,000 points in a career is a bigger number than 30 ppg for a career. It's logical nonsense meets nonsensical logic.
@dennisdezarn5895 10 finals appearances and only got 4 championships to show for it everybody loves a winner not second place especially having the privilege of choosing which all-star who he wants play with. 39,000 points doesnt mean nothing compared to 10 scoring titles, that alone should tell you at any giving time jordan could of broke the scoring record but championships are more important than records.
@@dennisdezarn5895even idiots should know that 2nd place finishes don't count for anything in pro team sports. That would be like saying the buffalo bills are better than a team that actually won a super bowl because they finished 2nd four yrs in a row.
Gilbert and LeBron are the only two people in the world who understand basketball apparently; Gilbert has plenty of MVPs, DPOY awards, and titles to prove it…oh wait
exactly. amazing how he sounds like Shannon Sharpe when it comes to downplaying Jordan
man who are you to question gilbert🤣he was a 3 time all star and what are you?
@@michaelwright6795 you forgot to call him a "Poopy Butt"
@michaelwright6795 You defending Gilbert Arenas like he accomplished anything 🤣🤣🤣
@vudujl83 Everything you just said!!!!
I never understood the “but he makes the right play” argument. What that really means is he makes a pass to a shooter at the perimeter 90% of time. Any average NBA point guard could make that play. But having the ability to consistently make a shot down the stretch no matter what the defense gives you makes you 10x more valuable for a championship team.
He "makes the right play" because he can't get backlash from missing. All he has to say is, "Welp it was the right play!" He only takes the last shot if it's meaningless. Where missing just causes overtime. I love how he's a "PASS 1st" player yet has 1ppg less than Kevin Durant. It's all about narratives with Lebron and the media and himself are great at manipulating it. Just like how he "makes players better" by turning them into spot up shooters.
facts
Yep. It's a false narrative to use LeBron's weakness and make it seem like a strength.
He doesn't want the moment, and when he has taken those shots, he hits them at a very low %. LeBron is a choke artist, and his people try to turn this weakness into a strength using media manipulation. I'm tired of it.
LeBron is just a more hyped version of Karl Malone. Complete with the flopping and choking.
If MJ and LeBron played on the same team LeBron making the "right play" most of the time would be passing to Jordan to make THE play. The simple fact is the"right play" is the one that wins you the game. If MJ has almost 50% FG percentage in shots to either win or tie a game in regulation or OT with 5 seconds or less(LeBron is 18%) why wouldn't getting the ball in Mike's hands be the right play? The reason fans have a higher fondness for guys like MJ and Kobe taking the shot over LeBron dumping it off is because of pressure. That challenge of being the person responsible for winning or losing a game. It's that simple.
That's code for he's the type to run from the responsibility of the last shot. All legendary players want the last shot but Bron makes the right play by driving and kicking right?
Yeah the guy that's tied for the most All-Defensive First Team in NBA history could "only score", right?
I think Gilbert is just going all in on the shock value statements. I don't want to believe a former player can be this ignorant
He is ignorant....so when he speaks...ignore the rant
I agree... Gill sounds likes hes trying to attract attention like everyone else these days
I don't listen to a damn thing he says, this idiot ended his own career, so whatever he has to say is pointless coming from him, he has no merits.
@@ricdafric7565that’s a bar 🔥🔥🔥😂facts
He even won defensive player of the year in the same season he won MVP.
So what made Gilbert fall in love with lebron is the center left the game and bron realized he had an advantage? Meanwhile Jordan just dunked over 7footers lol man Gilbert is such an idiot 😂😂
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SWEAR I was thinking this as I seen your comment. MJ played in era of dominant big men who controlled the paint and he still scored at will unlike Bron who let Tyson Chandler and Andrew Bogut lock him up 😂. Tht there is even a debate for Bron shows the power of Klutch and how the media manipulates narratives🤦🏽♂️
Never forget that Gilbert got into a Mexican standoff with a teammate over $500 in the Wizards locker room. I don't have words for how stupid that is.
@@pittland44😭😭😭😭
Remember Jordan dominated a center lead league in the 90s
Lebron took 4 steps on that game winner vs the Wizards. Kind of hard to stop a guy when he gets to take two extra steps...
FACTS!!
Honestly ye but Yk the fans would have been mad ash shaming the ref for making the right call you know how much Lebron dickriders would have been at his throat
They have never consistently called it whrn he travels on his first step off a triple threat drive
And he step out too
@@jioreyes5838 he was the main reason they normalized travelling.
Does Gilbert ever have a good take? 😂
Every time he opens his mouth, I wonder what his I.Q is 😂
He's a Lebron glazer just like Nick Wright.
He's obviously paid to say this shit because few months ago he said MJ was the GOAT and it wasn't close
No lol
@rapgodreloaded9259 jason windhorst is lebrons personal cheerleader on espn. They went to school together. Thats why all the goat hype...crazy
I've never seen a player get so much Credit for Passing especially when LeBron is not Half the Floor General that guys like Magic , Jason Kid & even John Stockton were.
Exactly, if this was the criteria of being the greatest then it's John Stockton but that would be insane to say.
Kobe said it best “just because you pass the ball, doesn’t mean you make others better”
@@bGzzzzzFacts!
@@bGzzzzzhe really say that? That’s kinda cold😂
@@bGzzzzzthat’s sick. And it’s really so true.
They always say he makes “the right decision”. I can’t stand people that don’t keep it real. He doesn’t like the pressure so he defers to another player. This, as we have seen, not only takes the pressure off himself but also the blame. As much as I appreciate everything he does for people outside of basketball, No all star player has ever had more excuses than him.
They cover up for LeBron's weakness with late game free throws. He actively avoids getting fouled late in the fourth quarter if they're behind. That's why often we've seen him pass or settle for a 3 on a size mismatch.
@@jordanjenkins1671 that too. For sure. But it’s the scapegoating that I don’t like. I mean, people are watching. People that watch ball and ain’t star struck observe what’s happening. And I’ve watched him, on several occasions pass to another player, who didn’t always have a better look and who wasn’t the person that would make that clutch shot, then after they miss he’d throw his hands up in the air or have a disappointed look on his face. But in actuality he was too scared to miss and basically made a decision to throw the ball away, without actually turning it over himself.
Excellent point. I think one of the reasons why so many people don't like Lebron is because he gets so much ridiculous protection by the media. Like, if everyone were more honest about his shortcomings I think a lot of people would warm to him more. It's like him standing out there saying "I want my damn respect" to which my response "Well that's too freakin' bad okay?" The thing Lebron and his sycophants don't understand is you cannot force people to call you the goat. That's not how it works.
@@jordanjenkins1671 Size mismatch?, he's usually bigger than most the centers in the league.
This is why against Warriors he ALWAYS plays, he's heavier than the center and nearly as tall, often plays interior position because rebounds are so much easier against that team., and no rim protection.
"The right decision" depends on the team you're on. If you're the guy that shoots 45-50 fg% and 80-85 ft% all game, you are probably the right guy to be taking the shots when it matters. If you're the guy that can shoot 30-35 footers and make them 40% of the time and you're on fire, it's probably the right decision to take the shot. If you're the guy that can only make dunks/layups with a consistent 70 ft% and the paint is clogged up but you are a pretty good passer, it's probably the right decision to pass it. The way these dudes make it all about Lebron is absolutely insane. Each team is going to the best options they have to win the game, that is the right decision.
These bozos saying MJ can only score are definitely not worth listening to. Makes me want to slap them hard with MJ's constant DPOY awards.
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DPOY and MVP at the same year
Constant? He had 1. I’m a Jordan fan. He had 9 first team all defense but only 1 DPOY.
@@kevinwheesysouthward9295 I stand corrected
Gilbert says "Jordan would have averaged 60 and said the hell with it". I have to wonder what he has against Jordan because it is no secret that Jordan put winning over everything. Arenas knows this.
That's because Gilbert wasn't a winner.
Yeaaaa, I don’t think DILbert watched MJ in the early years or even “The Last Dance”…MJ clearly stated “I’m going to win at ALL cost”, the guy was injured and told to sit out and STILL played, but sure MJ just cared about scoring 😂
@@jgc792infinitee6This.
@@bGzzzzz And let's contrast that with Lebron's actions this last season. Lebron, when it came time to pass Kareem's record, broke said record, had everyone stop and applaud him, then played about another 3 minutes, then pulled himself from the game and didn't play another minute. Now Lebron did break Kareem's record, that is a huge accomplishment, but you know what happened to the Lakers in that game? They lost, to the tanking Thunder that didn't have their top pick from that year due to injury.
@@pittland44 - exactly my point…..MJ plays to win, LBJ plays for self reverence (hence why he calls himself “king” - king of what, I do not know).
In pressured times LeBron doesn't always make the right decisions, he choked in 2011. I get Gilbert played in the NBA but that doesn't mean he can get away with his disrespect and wrong takes. Jordan was great on offense AND defense.
Gilber does not think...he just talks!!
And too damn much at that 😂😂
No, this is very deliberate.. its called rewiting history and SETTING THE NARRATIVE>
@@Scaley_Reptile facts!!
MJ averaged 1 less assist than LeBron, yet ppl claimed he didn't pass😂
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Shhhh🤫, you’re ruining the delusion
Not to mention, he’s a nine time all defensive title holder
Or or or Jordan players was better putting the ball in the hole😒 how many assist u think lebron would have if his teammates was able to knock down their shots😒 or take it to the paint seeing they're shots aren't falling 🤷🏾♂️ Jordan rookie yr he had a 20ppg play and a 16ppg player look up the roster
@@robertdunn1545 and lebron had all star big z and 20+ppg ricky Davis 🤫
For all the nonsense about _making the right play,_ Jordan & Kobe won more often in the Finals. They also have equal or better win percentages against championship contending teams in the playoffs too.
And I'll never forget LeBron James passing the ball to Ben Wallace with the game on the line. Unless it's a direct alley-oop or pass to the rim, that's the equivalent of a turnover & a horrible basketball play.
They're all-time great players so they all make sacrifices to make to make their teams better & win.
he just going to brick his shot if he takes it that's why he pass the ball instead, i rewatch how he attempted to win or tie the game against the nuggest in the WCF,, He LeFailed😂
Lebron isn’t Magic Johnson averaging double digit assists, Lebron averaged 7 apg which isn’t top 20 per game 😅
LEBRON IN TREE SEASON HAVE MORE 30 POINT AND 9 SEASON OF 8,5 AST LEBRON 19 SEASON STRAIGH WITH 25 PTS PER OR MORE FOR SEASON MICHAEL SEASON 2001 22 PTS 2002 20 PTS IS TO DIFERENCE
@@VictorNavasBaezand MJ is still a better player.
@@JS-nd1po and it will ever be that way.
@VictorNavasBaez yes wizards Mike put up average 20 points in average 21 minutes
Jordan was about to lead that wizards team to the playoffs at 40 if he didn't get hurt!
😂😂😂 that boy was ass
It was Jordan’s job to score and take the best shots he could get without forcing it. He’s a shooting guard. When he played point for awhile he had over 10 assists per game. He is also one of the best defenders ever. For example when they were playing Utah with the bulls behind he would do things like strip the ball from Malone and go down and score the game winning shot. That’s literally complete control of the court/ball. That’s what his job was. His team had specialists for things like rebounds Dennis Rodman. Shooting 3’s Steve kerr, paxon. All around player like pippen, tony kukoc and their tall layers like grant and longly for rim protection. Jordan was just doing his job .
When Lebron won in Cleveland it was Kyrie who saved The day
And along with a lot of the Warriors were hurt.
Uncut Hoops eyes turn into lasers the moment he sees someone praising LeBron. I love it lmao
I've watched enough of this channel to have seen Uncut Hoops praise and defend LeBron at times. He just doesn't put up with bullcrap takes that lie for LeBron and tear down past greats to elevate LeBron.
@@jordanjenkins1671shits disgusting and we need channels like this to debunk the narratives
It's about LIES, thats what pi$$es old fans off, THE LIES.
Gilbert Arenas is projecting his own flaws on other guys like Jordan and Kobe
I swear Gilbert Arenas has to be on Lebaby's payroll because the decoy comment is exactly what Jordan and every great did all the time. I also guess he forgot Paxon and Kerr closing Finals because of him trusting his teammates.
"Makes the right basketball play" So did Jordan. Because he was such a great clutch scorer, the right basketball play was for him to get the ball and everybody to get out of the way 😆 You'd never see him settle for a 3 against a smaller player because he's afraid of the free throw line late in the game.
You mean because of the level of competition in the 90's, the right play was always for Jordan to take it to G league-level talent with no athleticism or versatility. Jordan's advantage was that he was supremely more athletic than anyone in the 90's and the only guy who could guard him was on his team. Oh and that he had the best roster in the league to boot as well.
@@phillyphan1346You must be 15 cause your ignorance is at a HOF level
@@phillyphan1346best roster?! 🤣
Jordan routinely did more with less. His team didn't go out and get all stars. They kept things rolling with bottom of the round draft picks. Remember: Rodman was on his way out of the league after quitting on the Spurs when the Bulls signed him. He was no all-star, and on his way out of the league. LeBron has played with more than 3 times as many all-star players as Jordan, yet has fewer accolades across the board, including championships.
@@dmccall21 Rodman led the league in rebounding for several years, including 96-98 with the Bulls. To act as if he was a scrub is an absolute joke.
@@phillyphan1346 nobody said Rodman was. Facts are facts though. His craziness and antics had nobody willing to deal with him. He was on his way out of the league, period. The Bulls turned his whole career around. He's the only notable FA the Bulls ever signed during the Jordan era. Everyone else after the Pippen/Grant draft in 1987 was a low draft pick.
In a world where Skip Bayless exists, Gilbert is still the goofiest commentator in the nba
Oh what a surprise, ArenASS putting down Jordan again!
😂😂 I'm using this!
"Makes the right basketball play" Tell me how many games you can remember were won because of LeBron passing to somebody else to take the shot??? All I can remember is Korver, George Hill, and Danny Green missing those assisted shots and the media criticizing LeBron for passing instead of trying to drive, be willing to get fouled, and make clutch free throws.
Bron's not passing the ball, he's dumping responsibilities
FAX!!!
this is 100% FACT!!! if his teammates missed the shot, LBJ can just pawn it off on them...and the loss is no longer on him...
Wtf are these other players getting paid for😂🤣 yall crazy😒 but give Ray Allen to much credit 🤦🏾 if lebron didn't go on that 16 point run to bring the heat within distance of that shot even making a difference 😒 it would've been just another 3🤷🏾♂️ kyrie 3 pointer didn't save the game😒 lebron block stop gsw from scoring 😒 lest take kyrie 3 away 🤔 lebron was the last to score with the free-throw which gives the cavs a 1 point lead 😒 gsw never scored after which mean either way lebron team wins 😒🤔 TONI ,PIPPEN RODMAN AND OTHERS WAS THERE WHEN JORDAN HAD BAD GAMBLING NIGHTS AND HAD TO SHAVE POINTS!!!!!
What about nights Jordan went 9-32 or 11-34 🤔😒 oh that's right he had pippen and Toni 😒🤦🏾 let's not forget Dennis
@PeteSReynaIII ok what about bosh only having 7 point in that game 6 vs Boston when lebron had 45 points 15 rebounds??? Bosh should've at least had 15 rebounds 🤦🏾 let Dennis Rodman play like that😂😂😂
It’s not that lebron trusts his teammates. It’s that he doesn’t trust himself to be THAT man. That way people can give an excuse on how the teammate missed the shot & make the teammate the scapegoat.
Exactly
2018 Finals game 1 is proof of this. Bron is having game of his life, has Curry guarding him 1v1 at top of the key and instead of attacking he passes to George Hill and the rest is history. Decisions like tht are why it hard to call him one of greatest scorers despite him being #1 in total
@@tdup191I was rooting for Lebron those 4 years in Cleveland. I forgot all about how George Hill wound up with the ball in the first place. Its interesting how 100% of the blame went to JR.
@@tdup191I hate lebron but George hill had a wide open lay up🤦🏿♂️could lebron have just pulled up sure but a wide opened lay up😭 hill gotta hit that
@@Dipset415 Hill didn't miss, he got fouled on the pass. Bron still should have forced them to foul him and he go to line himself with chance to take lead
I gotta respect Gilbert Arenas commitment to constantly have the worst takes on weekly basics
MJ averaged 6apg in playoffs. Which is above his regular season average of 5. MJ was a extremely willing passer so saying that "Ah yea. MJ would score 60 and call it a day" is so disingenuous and straight not true
Great take on Gil having the worst takes. Some of the insane things he says makes me wonder if he just says them to generate traffic and comments on his channel.
gil is the ultimate loser
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@Romny…
Bro 6 assists per game is #1 all-time for SG’s… Mike averaged 5.4 per game career…. 5.7 per game in the playoffs… and exactly 6 apg in the Finals. He was one of the best passing SG’s ever.
Per game all-time at his position MJ is 1st pts, 1st blk, 2nd stl, 3rd reb & T-5th ast. That’s top 5 in every category, top 3 in 4 outta 5 categories.
Per game all-time at his position Lebron is 1st ast, 2nd pts, 11th stl, 13th reb & 18th blk. That’s top 5 in two categories, top 3 in two.
The only category Lebron betters MJ relative to their position is assists… and that’s the only thing he’s ever ‘had on’ Mike.
Not Lebron but MJ is the best and most complete player ever. So just know when you hear them say ‘Mike didn’t pass’…’mikes not an all-around player’…’mikes just a scorer’ bla bla bla, it’s all lies.
They can’t tell all this truth about Mike and have people believing Lebron’s better. So they lie constantly.
The “right play” gave bron a whole lot of L’s! So if Jordan was making the wrong plays and still making the big shots and going 6-0 in the finals then screw the right play ! Some can say bron was being passive because he was scared of the moment. The only way Lebron is in this goat convo is by people like Gilbert making hypothetical arguments which is telling. And young kids hear Gilbert and blindly nod their head in agreement because they don’t have context and nuance on how great Jordan was at winning and playing and involving his team. So they think Jordan was just a scorer smh
That’s a damn lie. He doesn’t have a whole lot of L’s bro. He has a great winning percentage. Stop hating. The right play is always right
@@laurencejohnson85734-6? That's a hole lot of Ls
@@laurencejohnson8573Jordan :6-0 Lebron 4-6
@@laurencejohnson85736 finals losses is literally one of the highest of all time
This is a cop out argument. Everyone knows that the big time players need to hit big time shots. LeBron "making the right play" isn't always passing to a wide open scrub on the corner. That dude is a scrub. LeBron needs to take that shot and he usually doesn't.
Also, I wonder how many of LeBron's amazing assists are just him handing the ball off to a shooter running by him and using LeBron as a screen? Or just LeBron making a simple pass to an open guy right next to him?
You can't compare his passing to Jordan and Kobe's ability to take the burden on themselves. Sometimes, the right play is passing, but you gotta be selective on that.
LeBron almost always puts the burden on others when HE is the leader.
Assists are recorded differently today, just ANOTHER rule they changed for Lefraud.
Both of you are wrong. I don’t ever want to choose another person’s hero. But stop hating on that monster LBJ
how dishonest a person can be to say jordan can only score when the most famous play of his career involved a clutch steal on Karl Malone ?
You do not fear someone who pass. You fear someone that will drop buckets on your head
You shouldn’t fear anyone. No one wanted to see MJ Kobe or Bron so stop hating. Greatness can not and will never be denied hater
@@laurencejohnson8573 that's not hating snowflake. It's facts. Now drink your milk and get to bed
Agent 0 really trying to get in good with LeBron to land that "analyst" position. Someone get him some knee pads and a hot towel.
All I know is there's only one of the two who averaged over 11 assists per game in a finals series. Guess which one did.
We all don't know what Jordan and Bryant would've done with lefruad's cavs teams. Also the east for most of the time Lefraud time with the cavs was a joke.
Idc what anyone says. If kobe or jordan had wade and bosh they wouldve won 2011. They also wouldnt have got swept agaisnt kd warriors no matter what year
The mind games argument in favor of LeBron just made me ROFL.
00 Dilbert - “give MJ the 07 Cavs and they’re not making the playoffs”
Ok - if we go by that logic, then give MJ all the Olympic team LBJ played on and the Heats 2011-2014 and he’s winning Gold/Chip in each of them 🤷♂️
One stuck with his team as they slowly improved individually and improved as a whole, instilled a winning mentality and performance standard.
The other bailed to florida because shit got hard.
Like it or not the way MJ pushed himself and his teammates made them better. Very true it wasn't for everyone but it was key it forging that bulls teams. Everyone knew their roles and did them exceptionally well.
MJ was once assigned the role of play maker and had more than 10 assists for a sequence of games...and that made him have a sequence of triple doubles in those games as well.
LBJ could do that only in his dreams...
88-89 season, he had 10 triple doubles over an 11-game stretch, and on 4-7- 89 against Detroit, was three rebounds short of going all eleven. Even still, he averaged 32.7 pts, 10.8 reb, and 11.4 ast.
When Jordan played point guard his stats were: 30 ppg, 9 rebounds per game, and 10assists per game, with 3 steals per game for good measure. I'd call that an all round player.
I believe if Jordan kept playing point guard for his whole career, he'd still have GOAT status, except we'd be calling HIM the greatest all round player of all time as well. Jordan had defenders second, and third guessing their decisions. It was marvelous. Wish these casual fans today could've seen him play in his prime. But because they didn't see MJ in his prime, all they can do is judge by highlight videos, and stories from NBA legends. Basically anyone that played Jordan in his prime all say the same thing. They all say that they feared him. It's a shame that there's generation now that'll never know what dominance looks like. It's shameful that Arenas would stay things to attempt to discredit Famers simply because he isn't.
Gilbert acts like Michael Jordan played and thinks like him. Jordan is not Gilbert just cause he scored a lot. Also what did being "pass first" against Dallas in 11' get him LeBron".
The same letter of his first name, an L 😂😂😂
They lie about how good LeBron is/was, they lie about how bad his teams were/are, they lie about how good other greats were and how good their teams were, they credit one player with something they slam the next guy for, they simply cannot talk about this stuff honestly or consistently lol I'm embarrassed for these clowns.
The difference with them is their first all defensive team
27 ppg isn’t top 3 in scoring 7 assists per game isn’t top 20 per game in assists 7 rebounds isn’t top 50 per game in rebounds and Lebron isn’t top 3 in p.e.r. and all that in a no touch era 😅😅😅😅😅
He is definitely a KLUTCH Sports client.
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
10. Steph Curry
14. Kobe Bryant
Bleacher report has Kobe #14
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3pt%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
PER: LeBron
WS/48: LeBron
VORP: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Field goal%
LeBron 50.5%✔️
Kobe 44.7%
Points scored career
LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time)
Kobe 33,643
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Total 3pointers made
LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time)
Kobe 1,827
Total Steals career
LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time)
Kobe 1,944
Total Blocks career
LeBron 1,073✔️
Kobe 640
Defensive win shares
LeBron 78.00✔️
Kobe 50.66
Assists Leader
LeBron 1✔️
Kobe 0
Career highs
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
Career highs
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters
LeBron 5✔️
Kobe 1
2010 NBA finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
2011 NBA playoffs
Mavericks 4 Lakers 0
Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series
LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
@@TerryLanda-fj9ivlebron is not better than no damn kobe you must've lost your damn mind you could post all the stats you want it don't matter he'll never be better than kobe😂
Analyst? Nah he's an Opinionist, A Take-Talker, a Taker...Takes money for spitting BS Takes. Imagine Jordan begging for a Big to be taken out so he can attack the basket lmfao. Also, that's not being a decoy, especially if even Gilbert saw LeBron beg the coach, it was a Coward's strategy. It's like Gilbert comments on players' game style instead of what they actual accomplished and never supports his BS with actual stats or historical facts. It's like him and Perk are trying so hard to be the next Barkley but both lack Barkley's intellect, sense of humor, wit, cool, and actual analytical critical thinking skills.
I don’t get a guy that tries to criticize players that were better than him and had a better career than him. He sounds like a troll.
Good vid. Arenas trying to get pub...glad you're calling him out. LeFlop does such a great job of trusting his teammates? This coming from a self-described "I don't care who's in the game, I'm chuckin'!" So how would he know the first thing about tactics and team-play? LeBra did such a good job in trusting his teammates, that he left them high and dry in Cleveland, TWICE! Same in Miami. Went to LA, didn't win cuz he couldn't make his team better, so then he trusted his teammates so much... that half the roster was traded away (and 2 first round picks) to get AD. THAT'S TRUST, GIL-BEAR?
The question is how much money is unclutch sports paying Gilbert 😅
Jordan was 9 times all defensive first at the same time as scoring champ. That really shows how much of a beast he was on both ends.
Also steals champ at the same time as scoring champ.
Something that never gets mentioned. Jordan is top 5 in both totals and per game averages in both scoring and steals. Some players maybe both for one stat but not 2.
Jordan took it to another level in the finals especially the first 3.
91-- average 11.4 assists per game highest for anyone not Magic.
92 - - average an impressive 42% for 3s and in game 1 shot six 3s in a half which was a record for 18 years until Ray Allen the only person to shoot more in a half
93-- average 41 points per game highest ever.
Every Finals MJ was out to prove definitively that he was the best in the game.
In 91, he is playing the best point guard ever, so he not only averages 30+ but also 11+ assists a game.
In 92, they said Drexler was a better 3 point shooter, so he shut that talk down right from the jump
In 93, Barkley won MVP but Jordan was the best in the world
@@J23LA24 Finally someone else who notices this, YES, he dropped an BUNCH of assists on Magic, 3's on Drexler, also, notice when he dunked on Motombo... used his own taunt against him, same with Mourning.
He was a cheeky bugger.
Lol Bron was a decoy until they took the big man out the game😂? I guess that was the case when the cavs were down 3-1 and bogut got injured😂😂😂phuck this Era of basketball
See guys what happened in game 6 of the 97 finals is Jordan was just shooting cause he’s a shot jacker and it was such a bad shot it landed in Steve Kerrs hands and he happened to be open. This proves LeBron is better right? 😂
You're right! That point was not unique but Gill hypes stuff up off personal emotions.
Gil don't know wtf he talking bout , Jordan play defense great , he just mad he couldn't do the things jordan could . 6 championships n taking a couple years off still came back to win 3 championship, plus Jordan didn't try to go to super team to win championships
Who was 31... Pushing 50!
Bro U R RANDOMLY HILARIOUS ASF!
Nice content. I enjoyed it. Ill see U next time... Lol
So in gilbert's mind because lebron beat gilbert's weak azz that makes lebron the goat?!
Thanks for this channel..
Gilbert says things for clicks because he knows there's a following he can get from younger kids who doesn't know better or to appeal to other fans who favor the new school over the old guard.
You don't know the reason Gilbert Arenas saying it kid
So you making up lies with no facts
@@TerryLanda-fj9iv who you calling a kid? I'm 48
@@TerryLanda-fj9iv I gave an opinion based on his lies. Ok here's a fact, he said his first game he against John Stockton he gave him buckets. But when you look that game up, he actually scored the same as his jersey number "0". The 2nd game he scored 6pts and his 3rd game he scored 19. In all 3 games John Stockton out scored him. Hes the liar and a clown like you. Now you go and look that up and see who is making up lies.
@@TerryLanda-fj9ivget yo casual groupie ass outta here get off lefold's dicc😂
I love when people use hypotheticals as facts. “ They would never get those Cavs teams to the playoffs.”
Arenas at the end was delusional with his take. Like seriously if you win doing what you're doing then all the power to you. The problem is it didn't, and it toom Lebron around 10 years to realize that as a superstar you have to trust yourself first in clutch situations. Youvtake the shot, not somebody else.
Why would I care about Gilbert
If you all didn't know Gilbert Arenas is an ID-I-OT!
Stop comparing Lebron to MJ.
MJ has six rings on one team. Lebron is just a good recruiter.
Lebron James - 10.4 percent - Counting only regular season games, ESPN reported that in a 10-year period from 2007-16 NBA players shot 22.7 percent with a chance to tie or go ahead in the final five seconds. LeBron was 10.4 percent (5-for-47).
LeBron James Has Only Made 19 Of 107 Shots In Clutch Situation During His Career: 17.8% FG, 12.5% From 3-Pointers
Michael Jordan Playoff Clutch Shooting Stats (years: 89-93): Last 5 minutes, Score within 5: 51.4 FG% (76/148) Last 2 minutes, Score within 3: 56.1 FG% (23/41) No one does it better.
The NBA average on clutch shots in 2013 was 28.3%. Throughout his career, Jordan's stats show a 50% success rate in clutch shots, while LeBron, for now, has a 29.6%.
Kobe took a starting lineup of bench player to the playoffs in back to back years in the West. No doubt he would’ve been able to take those trash Cavs teams deep into the playoffs
Cavs teams had great defenses that wasn’t all Lebron
Uncut Hoops I personally believe you're a exceptional statistics person I love whenever you come with it
If Michael Jordan hadn't retired for the first time in 1993, the Bulls might have won eight straight championships.
Imagine sitting in 98 with 8 straight championships? They would said to heck with it let break the record
Whos gonna stop them ? The spurs lol
MJ himself said they wouldn't have won in 94. He said things were changing.
@@jordanjenkins1671the real answer is that bulls didn't have an answer for dream
Gilbert is known for what he did off the court vs what he did on it 😂
I got seriously lost once I tried to follow Arenas logic....
I had to visit the comments here and laugh out loud. 😂
Lebron averaged more shot attempts than Kobe for his career 😂😂
And by the end of this season, he`ll have the most misses in NBA history. Not bad for a "pass first/make the right play" player.
@@RichardRennes
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🥱
LeBron 38,652 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history not top 10 player all time that's what his individual stats says
LeBron James PPG, FG%, 3pt%, TS%, REB, AST, STL, BLK higher then Kobe Bryant. So it's pretty clear LeBron the better player 🥱
LeBron 38,652 pts on 50.5% fg more points then Kobe 33,643 pts on 44.7% fg most missed shots in NBA history
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
14. Kobe Bryant
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history not top 10 player all time that's what his individual stats says
Your cut and paste is so idiotic, it`s not even worth responding to.@@DavionSpade-ui3ph
Magic Johnson ? For a player that had the ball in his hand us much as he does Lebron should have more than 1 double digit assists season and he went after it that year because it was a media narrative
No you are not telling the truth. He made it his mission to lead the league in assists. Hate kills and destroys good people bro.
Uncut hoops defends Lebron against Gil...is this a parallel universe or what???😂
LeBron has a good first step. His problem is he doesn’t have any moves/counters so Gil is incorrect.
It’s been said on here… but I have to reiterate…
9x 1st Team all Def
DPOY
3 Steals titles
Only SG in history to be top 5 among guards at both blocks and steals
More blocks per game than Lebron
When he did play PG for a stretch in 89 I think… he almost averaged a triple double.
Gilbert lost to LeBron at his peak so he has to hype up LeBron to make himself feel better about losing to LeBron. Just because he beat you gil doesn't mean he's the goat 😂
Exactly because Gilbert was what he tried to label Jordan, JUST A SCORER.
I love the juxtaposition of Jordan making a pass for a bucket whole Gilbert is talking about him "dropping 60."
Gil said LeBron waiting until the big left the game like duh that's why they changed to small ball because Roy Hibbert of all people all most got Miami up out of there he would wait till Roy was put of the game to attack mj an kobe don't have to wait because they never had the self doubt LeBron has an had.
He might be a Klutch Sports plant
I honestly think Gilbert has chosen to be a troll. There's no other explanation for his dumb takes. He knows better... but uses these bad takes to get clicks, likes and attention. Textbook troll behavior.
I really admire players who can make the right play. Like Ron Harper, so underrated, his decision makng was on point. Matter of fact, he always chose to pass it to Michael who then proceeded to win the game for his team.
Yes, Ron Harper might actually be the goat now that I think about it, he really understood the game.
Lebron scored too many points off traveling violations.
while on steroids
I love Gil's point of view but sometimes it seems to be more of what he feels instead of what it is
Arenas is not a legend
Jordan never lost in the Finals, never lost in Playoffs with home court advantage. Lost 1 series when he had a lead ever. Didn't lose 3 games in a row from November 1990 thru June 1998. Won Scoring Title, Steals Title, MVP, DPOY and had over 200 steals and 100 blocks in the same season in 1988. Won 25 out of 26 series from 1991-1998. In Bill Russell's 8 championships in a row, he won 24 out of 25 series. Jordans Bulls have 4 of the 12 repeat championships since 1970 and 2 of the 3 3peats since 1970. He won his 1st and last scoring titles 11 years apart (1987 & 1998). The longest span ever. He won MVP 10 years apart (1988 & 1998) the longest span ever. Ok your turn for impressive things that nobody else has ever done, name here_________
Kobe was 10x the player LeBron will ever was, the end
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
10. Steph Curry
14. Kobe Bryant
Bleacher report has Kobe #14
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3pt%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
PER: LeBron
WS/48: LeBron
VORP: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Field goal%
LeBron 50.5%✔️
Kobe 44.7%
Points scored career
LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time)
Kobe 33,643
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Total 3pointers made
LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time)
Kobe 1,827
Total Steals career
LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time)
Kobe 1,944
Total Blocks career
LeBron 1,073✔️
Kobe 640
Defensive win shares
LeBron 78.00✔️
Kobe 50.66
Assists Leader
LeBron 1✔️
Kobe 0
Career highs
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
Career highs
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters
LeBron 5✔️
Kobe 1
2010 NBA finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
2011 NBA playoffs
Mavericks 4 Lakers 0
Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series
LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
@@TerryLanda-fj9iv just stop
@@asundelgun3487
Bleacher report top 50 greatest NBA players all time
1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
6. Shaquille O'Neal
7. Tim Duncan
10. Steph Curry
14. Kobe Bryant
Bleacher report has Kobe #14
PPG: LeBron
RPG: LeBron
APG: LeBron
SPG: LeBron
BPG: LeBron
FG%: LeBron
3pt%: LeBron
FT%: Kobe
TS%: LeBron
PER: LeBron
WS/48: LeBron
VORP: LeBron
MVP's: LeBron
FMVP's: LeBron
Rings: Kobe (Best player on 2)
LeBron better player then Kobe
Field goal%
LeBron 50.5%✔️
Kobe 44.7%
Points scored career
LeBron 38,652✔️ (1st all time)
Kobe 33,643
LeBron 1st all time points
Kobe 1st all time missed shots
Total 3pointers made
LeBron 2,261✔️ (9th all time)
Kobe 1,827
Total Steals career
LeBron 2,186✔️ (9th all time)
Kobe 1,944
Total Blocks career
LeBron 1,073✔️
Kobe 640
Defensive win shares
LeBron 78.00✔️
Kobe 50.66
Assists Leader
LeBron 1✔️
Kobe 0
Career highs
Kobe Bryant 28-46 fg and 7-13 3pt for 81 points vs Raptors 27-55 record
Career highs
LeBron James 22-33 fg and 8-10 3pt for 61 points vs Bobcats 43-39 record
Playoffs game winning buzzer beaters
LeBron 5✔️
Kobe 1
2010 NBA finals
Game 7
Lakers 83 Celtics 79
Kobe Bryant 6-24 fg and 0-6 3pt for 23 points
2013 NBA finals
Game 7
Heat 95 Spurs 88
LeBron James 12-23 fg and 5-10 3pt for 37 points
Shaquille O'Neal 3 finals mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant a sidekick like Pippen 6 rings
2011 NBA playoffs
Mavericks 4 Lakers 0
Kobe got swept with home court advantage and favored to win series
LeBron 16-6 wins owns Kobe in 22 career meetings
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg only 32.9% 3pt most missed shots in NBA history isnt even top 9 player all time
@@TerryLanda-fj9iv finally someone who knows that stats
I feel like guys are getting paid to praise Lebron. It’s getting ridiculous
I hope Gil does a video on Uncut Hoops like he did with Dreamerspro
You proved Gilbert right when you went to kobe and immediately brought up his scoring stats
The way guys like Arenas speak you'd think MJ average 1 or 2 assists per game while jacking up 35 shots a game.
You would think Gilbert never played ball to say Jordan could only score. Him and Kobe are literally two of the best scorers and perimeter defenders ever who were also fantastic play makers. It's not like they score 30 and get just one assist per game. The right play? Get out of here. I want my best player to be able to take over and create a shot when needed. It's so much more valuable to have a threat like Kobe and Jordan. My point guard can make "the right play/pass". Kind of a cop out to just kick the ball to a role player for a clutch shot. Why use hypotheticals like they wouldn't make the playoffs with that 07 or 2018 Cavs team when we don't know that. Kobe carried below average nba players to the 7 seed/1st round in 06 and 07, and that's in a much more competitive western conference.
"31 pushing 50" 😂
I have a friend that uses Gilbert arenas takes to debate me and I can't explain to him that the only reason he could ride with those takes is because he's never played basketball irl. Dude literally doesn't know how to dribble but tells me modern NBA players are better and more skilled and that it's not the rule changes allowing much more offense with travels and carries not being called. I just don't understand how I can take someone's opinion seriously when they don't know how to shoot/dribble/pass/defend irl and think I am crazy for saying the game isn't as good as it was in the 80's-90's. They get their takes from football players like Shannon Sharpe and keyshawn 😂 or hoopers with agendas 😂 like gil
He act like we never saw Jordan lol He was great at everything offense & defense
Been laughing about this convo for years hahah.
he plays this crazy take guy role really well
I stopped when I saw the subject "NBA Legend".
Gilbert Arenas is nohing even remotely close to an NBA Legend. He's a guy who was a pretty good player for about 2 or 3 years and then got himself kicked out of the league. He never won a thing.
Funniest part is that he criticises jordan for being nothing but a scorer, when Arenas was literally exactly that - the guy played zero defence and did nothing else at a high level. He was an ISO heavy chucker. with zero basketball IQ.
I like how you brought the mamba into the convo.