Sulastic vs Stock Shackle 2019 3500HD
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ต.ค. 2024
- Improve your truck's ride. In this video I show the difference between how a stock shackle and the upgraded sulastic shackle handle going down the road. This was a noticeable improvement to my ride quality, I think it is a good way to take the annoying bumpiness out of your heavy duty truck. The instructions Sulastic provided were really thorough and it all went very smoothly, but do be aware that you need some above average tools for this job: floor jack, jack stands, die grinder, and then some larger sized sockets and wrenches. An impact made it faster too.
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I put a set of these on my 2015 F250. They did improve the ride.... for a while. After just over 2 years, the rubber flex part separated from the steel part and they were then just sitting in the bottomed out, useless position.. until you hit a bump, then due to the slop, the rear end would bounce up and then back down to the collapsed position. Sulastic replaced them under warranty (only 3 year on rubber part). When I got the replacements I just sold them rather than go thru the trouble in re-installing them. Good idea, does make for a slightly better ride, just doesn't last... and for the price they should last much longer and/or lifetime warranty.
in the 2 years, how many miles did you travel before they failed?
@@tjnaj1126 I don't recall exactly. But not many. The truck is over 8 years old now and only has 70k on it, so it's not like I drive it a lot. And I have air bags so any time I hauled anything heavy, I aired up which took a lot of the load off the shackles too.
I was just wondering about durability on this product thanks for sharing.
You have posted this same paragraph on every Sulastic video. We get your point. You either get a good batch or a bad one. I have had mine installed on my F250 with a 7.3L diesel. No problems for 6 years now. And if I had a problem the ride is so much better I would buy another set. $380 or a whiny wife. I’ll take the $380 every day.
@@ShelbyvsViper And? Good for you that you got a "good batch". I was just telling it like it was with my experience. And they're $530 now thanks to inflation... so there's that to consider too.
There used to be a bump on the freeway right by my house that would always bounce me up into my seat belt. After installing the sulastic shackles, it didn't eliminate the bump I felt, but I no longer locked out the seat belt anymore, which made it worth it to me.
Thanks for posting this. I just got a set for my dodge 3500 dully. Much better now.
Great, I hope you like them.
I bought these and Wow, what an impressive improvement. Companies like GM should buy their patent or incorporate them as they will sell more HDs in the process. Objectively, they feel like 50-70% smoother rear suspension smoothness. Worth the money and I’m more excited to ride my 2020 Chevy 2500 more than ever; I love my 6.6L gas engine as well, doing just great for my needs. The mechanic I hired did not have to notch out the underside of the Chevy box as found in some videos. He saved time and box damage by simply cutting those bolts and replaced them with new ones and faced the head of the bolt the opposite way; easier to remove if ever needed. Duh, brilliant! I’d say these are one of the best things one could invest in for an HD, period. Superior to Air Bags here in the winter (easily reaches -20 to -45C for days at-a-time here during Alberta winters) as bags can stop functioning at those temps.
These don't help with squat only ride quality, if your tooted you'll still need airbags
@@nativeoutdoors1780 Squat, It does not improve squatting, correct. I knew that going in. It’s about vibration and and ride quality over holes and bumps. I’ve noticed it and so has my wife. It works.
@@nhlcfl7733 yeah so why did you say they are superior to airbags? Airbags don't really improve ride quality
@@nativeoutdoors1780 I can agree that air bags don’t improve ride quality. I’m conveying that air bags by comparison, experience issues when temperatures dip into sub zero temperatures. Their air lines, the moisture that exists wherever, is a major part of the problem. The shackles do not have components that experience anything like that. That is why.
@@nhlcfl7733 oh I see my bad, I was just confused haha no worries though, I've been looking at these shackles for a while for my dually but I'm still on the fence with them
I installed this definitely softened the big bumps and small potholes. One thing I also noticed was the rear end moved more side to side like I had no sway bar at the back.
Interesting, I haven't felt that side to side movement yet but you are adding one additional pivot point that could possibly create that. I just towed a trailer last week and thought these were great then too.
I have had these for 6 years and haven't noticed this either. You may want to check that everything is installed correctly and tight.
California Avenue is ATROCIOUS, especially right off i215 heading to the tracks, I try to avoid that road like the plague
Did it remove the bumpyness on the concrete highways? Cuz my superduty will bounce pretty badly on highway speeds only on concrete when they have those expansion gaps, if I have weight then no issue
I just replaced all 4 shocks on my 2010 F250. Did the front first and the truck was much improved in ride and smoothness because my front shocks were toasts. The rear shocks still worked, but I decided to go ahead and replace them with the same brand as the new front ones (the yellow Monroe gas magnums). Big mistake. Now the truck is riding much rougher in the rear. I'm on the fence. Do I spend $500 on Sulastic shackles or dig the old rear shocks out of the garbage.
I haven't changed my shocks to a different style yet so I can't say, but if I was you. It is pretty easy to change shocks. So change your shocks to see what it does, you can consider this next if that doesn't help. But as I mentioned in the video. These shackles aren't for taking out small vibration, they are for removing the jolt when you go over bumps. So if you are working with a minor vibration I don't think the sulastics will help, but if it is on big bumps hitting you in your rear end then it will help
@@DDTruckDriver No minor vibrations, that's actually what shocks are really good at. It's the big bumps and jolts that average shocks suck at. Honestly I've ran into this in the past with pretty much every truck I've owned, so I'm thinking Sulastics might be a good option for me. I tried the highly recommended Bilstein 5100s on my last truck and it was the same story, I loved them in the front, but they were just too stiff in the rear when unloaded. In my opinion the OEM shocks that most trucks come with give the best of both worlds with rear leaf springs, but maybe the Sulastics combined with these stiiffer Gas Magnums will be the magic combo
@@edjackson4389 The only experience we have is that one of our guys just put a levelling kit on so that he could put on 34" tires and he upgraded to fox shocks and he felt like his ride didn't hardly change at all
Anyone use these with a load ? Like a truck camper ? Curious to hear if it also helps with a 5,000lbs load, or if in fact it becomes too "mushy".
Ive checked the thier website but cant seem to find a part number for my 2022 3500.
The only part number showing is for lt and ls models
Sa-04HD
I wouldn’t know about that, I am quite sure someone at my company just installed them on his 2022 truck though so I’m sure they are available. I just made the video though, I don’t have any connection to Sulastic as a company. Sorry
So how are they doing after a year of running these sulastic shackles? Still holding up well?
So far, but I don't do a ton of miles in my pickup. I have put on about 10,000 miles since the install, maybe a bit more. They are doing fine so far.
Any updates? On how there holding up. Have you towed with them?
I haven't taken a measurement to see the difference if they have sagged at all. But they feel the same currently. I have towed with them and it felt just fine, no difference in the way it performed when towing.
No tears in the bushings, there’s some reports of them falling.
how is this work when towing? Do you have more bounce ?
I don't tow a lot and I didn't tow with this truck hardly at all before installing these. However, once you get enough weight on the truck the sulastic shackles will just max out. At which point they just act like a stock shackle so it would not affect towing.
One nice benefit though is the shackle bushing dampens movement in both directions. So in theory, that shackle actually can soften the trailer bouncing up AND down. I can't say I notice that because I haven't towed much. But last month took a 22' trailer up the mountains on a 300 mile drive and it felt great so that much I do know.
I installed these on my 06 dodge 3500 single wheel and just checked 20 mins ago and the rubber bushing is shot and separated on the passenger side already. installed aug of 2019. only lasted 2 years and now I have to figure ut if I want to go through warranty to get new ones as I'm in Canada and sulastics is in the us. just a caution for future buyers.
Very interesting. What type of driving do you do? Like are you towing a lot, are you off road regularly, etc.
Thanks for the notice. I just installed mine last week here in Edmonton. I read a Motor Trend article after 5 years of continuous use by commercial HD truck owners and no issue. Se send an update on your findings and good luck Canuck 🇨🇦
@@DDTruckDriver Idk what happened to this set. Installed them and barely drove the truck for that year so basically 1 year of driving on road no offload of any kind or hauling and still the rubber chewed itself out. id go trough the warranty thing but can't find proof of urchace and would still have to send them to the us on y $$ and have to wait. will probably go back to stock soon
Right when you said not much happening here is where you could see the difference the best! The camera was getting heavy vibration
Welllll....nobody's perfect :)
@@DDTruckDriver wasn't a dig haha just an observation! How are they holding up?
@@MrBudpln no no I was joking as well. So far they hold up, after driving it for a couple days they just feel like normal part of the truck. So I assume they are holding up fine, they are still there, and my ride height is still the same so they aren't worn out and I am happy with the little bumps I drive over.
@@DDTruckDriver I've been wanting to get them but I have seen so many bad reviews.
Thank you for video
No problem, hopefully it was helpful. It was fun to make.
trying to get a set for my 2008 ram megacab don't think they make them ?
Before I bought mine I actually called where they were developed down in Texas and spoke to their store and the guy was super helpful. If you look up their phone number I’m sure they will be able to tell you
does this make the truck ride alot better
I would say there are certain bump types it does. For general road vibration and little bumps no it didn't seem to do much. For medium or bigger bumps I think it did, like I said in the video it takes a bit of the "punch in the back" feeling out of some bumps
@@DDTruckDriver and you still drive this truck right
Because I just ordered a ram 3500 and it is gonna ride rough
@@turtletube Oh yes, I just mean I installed these soon after I got this truck. But I'll be keeping this truck for many years.
@@turtletube Definitely will. Might have a more noticeable change on a Dodge than my Chevy perhaps.
Did that affect ride height at all? It looks like you lost about 2 inches in the rear.
It actually raised the height of the truck by 1/2 - 3/4" initially which I really didn't want. However in the install instructions it says to expect that and then after use it will settle close to stock.
Sure enough 1 week later I measured again and I was only 1/4" above stock ride height.
@@DDTruckDriver interesting, I can't wrap my head around how it's gained height lol but good to know, thank you for the reply.
I just don’t see a big enough difference. I must have rewinded the video 30 times! I mean for the cost, Is it worth it? When I was told about these it made a lot of sense, but I didn’t realize the stock shackles had movement also. I pulled up this video because I was ready to purchase some. For the cost I’m not sure they are all that different. I think you may have just talked me out of them. Thanks for the video.
Haha I don't sell these. Our channel is here to provide info so you can make decisions. If that is your decision then that is just fine with us.
I noticed a major difference with my 1500 Silverado
Good I'm glad. I would have thought a 1500 already had quite a smooth ride, that is interesting to know it helped a 1500 as well.
where did you buy for the 1500? thx
@@ebaysnipa the TRX has coil springs in the rear.
@@This_is_My_Story I own a silverado that’s why i was asking. thanks TRX?
@@ebaysnipa my bad I thought the question was for a TRX then only now noticed your channel name. Really sorry
Do the shocks, those Rancho shocks are garbage.. Buy a nice set of adjustable Fox or Icon, you wont regret it..
Great idea. Yes the week you sent this I actually had my leveling kit and fox shocks arriving.
I feel like it would take away from how much your truck can hold.
Per sulastic's website it does not change any of the weight rating. From our perspective, if you compare what these look like fully extended to what the stock shackle looks like it makes sense that it doesn't change anything. When they get fully engaged and and pulled all the way open they are just a piece of metal hanging on by 2 bolts on each end just like the stock shackle.
I bought these and…….. fuck , it will not work with deaver lift springs.
Shoot that is too bad
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