How To Improve The Ride Quality Of Your Ford Super Duty Truck
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.พ. 2023
- Any heavy duty truck these days tends to ride rough. They are built to carry heavy loads, even though these same trucks will spend thousands of miles as daily drivers unloaded with no additional weight. The net result of this is very poor handling and a harsh ride where you feel every bump.
In this video I talk about what I've done to improve the handling of my F250, and the options available out there for people who don't want to spend $6,000 for a Carli kit. Don't get me wrong, I love what Carli does, but some of us can't rationalize the expense for those kits, or want to keep our factory leaf springs and coils intact. Watch this video to learn more about what I decided to do.
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What other tips do you have to improve a trucks ride quality?
I removed front sway bar added fox 2.0 shocks 37" tires with 44 psi front 40 psi rear. Camper shell decked system 12,000 lb winch with full replacement bumper helped the ride alot with the extra weight. Rides much better vs stock.
Nice! It sounds like all that extra weight helped a lot @@rockie307
Good info on your suspension setup! The steering stabilizer is definitely next on my “to do” list. The Carlie kits are super nice but I can’t justify spending that cash just yet plus I like my truck to feel and drive like a truck so my superlift suspension makes me humble. Thanks again for the info!
No problem! Thanks for the comment. You can definitely do a lot without shelling out the cash for a Carli kit. You’ll love the steering stabilizer when you do it, big difference
I wish there was a more reasonable option to Carli.
Same! It seems like there could be a market for something a little less expensive
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We went to Carli and of all the lifts and levels I have had there is no comparison. I did the Commuter 3" level, stabilizer bar, hi mount steering and later added adjustable radius arms. I tow heavy and same as you on sketchy roads. Way better especially in handling and articulation with their progressive springs getting trailers into job sites. At the time I went with their Eibach/Carli shocks cause Fox was unavailable. I love my 20 F250 7.3 truck so much that I don't want to trade it in. If I get a 25 model I will do the exact same thing.
That’s awesome! Thanks for the comment, cool to hear about someone towing heavy with a Carli setup. Who did you have install it on your rig?
I'm looking to get rid of that bouncy hard Phil are you saying the fox shocks will do that for me? Looking to get a softer bump impact LOL if that makes sense
Good afternoon,
You mentioned lurching on these super duties. I just got my new 2023 F350 Limited and I am noticing lurching when driving over any imperfection on the road. I have been using the word vibrates to describe it, until I saw your video. Lurching is the right description.
Now, how much lurching is normal ? If I rest my head wearing a hat on the seat, my head goes crazy when hit a rough road.
Would you please try to describe how much lurching is normal on these trucks ?
Thanks in advance !
I’m afraid they lurch a lot. This is due to to the stiffness of the front sway bar. Ford designed these trucks to be loaded to the GVWR max. And with higher weight capacities comes stiffer suspension. It’s not uncommon to have a drink thrown from a cup holder or feel like your head is going to hit the window 😂 the cheapest way to “sort of” fix this is to air down your tires when you’re not towing or fully loaded. Other than that, Carli Suspension has the best solution on the market for softening the ride feel of these fords. I hope that helps.
Awesome truck we have a 2001 f250 white lariat 4x4 4 door and works great but wanna upgrade to the exact truck and color you have. Maybe a stupid question but our truck has leaf springs in the front with the front suspension you have what’s the difference in ride? Big difference or?
Thanks for the comment. The ride quality is slightly better with coils, but the main advantages are more suspension travel and a better turning radius. You should definitely check out this year truck on the used market. The 2019s are nice because they didn’t experience Covid manufacturing quality control 😂
Another great option for shocks is Accutuned Fox 2.0’s. They use the Fox 2.0’s with remote reservoirs and then custom valve them. Choose the “adventure” tune which is geared towards on road comfort. Completely changes the ride and well worth the extra ~$4-500 over the standard off the shelf non reservoir fox 2.0’s.
Good to know! Thanks for the share. I didn't realize there was another tuning option available for fox shocks
How bout those cooper tires. Made in Arkansas, first all terrain with a warranty, work great in everything.
They’ve been awesome so far! Great traction and they’re super smooth in the highway. My only complaint is they’re a little tricky to keep balanced. What size coopers do you run?
@@powerstrokemaintenance 265/75/18. The xlts are the only at3s I have had balance issues with. The regular at3s have always balanced out.
Good to know! Thanks for the comment
Is the rim a stock 18x8??
I’m in California was told by American Tire that they would not put that tire on my rim. What are your thoughts?
Thanks for the comment! Yes it is a stock rim. I would listen to American Tire. Especially if you do a lot of highway driving. I had to get rid of these because they were too heavy and difficult to balance at load range F. Would always wobble over 65mph. If you do want oversize tires go with a load range E that's the Tremor size 285/75R18. Hope that helps!
Good to know
Thank you for the info
before you go, lowering your tire pressure to 45 psi check what the manufacture says the lowest tire pressure you can put in that tire you’re risking your tire coming apart if you do go below what the manufacturer says. Most big truck tires can cannot go below 65 psi
Nah you inflate based on the load inflation table for your specific tire. My 35’s should technically be at 40 PSI.
I am assuming your assumption of the minimum pressure was based on what the door jamb says which is based on the maximum weight your axles are allowed to carry. As was said there are load inflation charts for every tire size and tire construction type. In this instance the HD pickups all use an LT tire ( light truck ) and tire charts for that series of tire goes down to a minimum 35 pounds, for highway driving speeds they don't want that tire construction to be run below that pressure. So what the tire chart does is list how much your tire size will carry at certain psi increment numbers, then to utilize that information the truck has to be weighed, front and rear axles separately to know what they are ( with the load that normally is carried in the truck or if its normally driven empty ). Definitely one has to be a lot more diligent with checking tire pressures when running pressures that are on the line of safety, therefore one can add 5 pounds to the calculated pressure as a buffer.
Blows my mind Ford didn't put more R&R into these trucks. My 24 Tremor thrown me all over the place side to side, my wife hates it. Just received my Fox 2.0 Shocks, cant wait to see what the how much or a difference they make.
Sorry to hear that. The fox shocks will definitely help a lot! You also may want to consider adjusting your tire pressure if you’re running unloaded a lot
Tire pressure is the first thing I did, running 40 in the rear
and 45 up front. @@powerstrokemaintenance
Gotcha! Good call
@@powerstrokemaintenance Now that I have been driving the truck more I realized most of the issue was the tires breaking in plus the steering feel. I am used to better steering feel and with this electronic assist crap it makes it hard to feel what the truck is doing, turned it off.
Getting a softer, preferably adjustable shock, like a Rancho 9000 (cheap options) will absolutely soften the ride.
Shocks will soften the ride? How will they cause the springs and leaves to soften?
@@powerstrokemaintenance Do you understand how compression damping works or shall I fill you in?
I'm all ears
@@powerstrokemaintenance extra compression damping slows downstroke via extra friction (thus heat) and increases the overall effective spring rate. Get in any modern car with different drive modes that adjust the suspension “stiffness” and this is what is happening; they are stiffening the compression damping via a variety of different methods (electronic valve control, magnaride, etc.). Some also have electronically/hydraulically adjustable sway bars though that is a bit of a different concept. Many of these vehicles have twin personalities with regards to incredibly soft suspension vs “race car” stiff.
Now to real world 3/4 and 1 ton examples. Get in the same truck with Rancho 9000xl’s set to 1-5 and compare the same truck with Bilstiens. The bilstien truck will feel far stiffer.
Rebound damping is a whole other topic that is actually massively important. I’ve got my eye on comp and rebound adjustable shocks.
@eag8999 thanks for explaining that. How is compression damping in ranchos changing the spring rate of my ford OEM coils, leaves, and sway bar?
The Carli commuter kit is not six thousand bucks. The kit is approximately $2100.00 with about $800 to install.
I’m sorry for the confusion, $2150 without any options lol. $5655 if you want HD leaf springs, low mount stabilizer, sway bar drop brackets and leaf spring shackles, which is the setup I would buy.
The truck looks leveled. Do you know what was used?
Not leveled. Stock ride height, I just carry tools in the bed.
A working mans leveling kit! Nice.
@@Masonplays963 Exactly!
WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE FOR $800, I LOOKED AND IT'S ABOUT $1200.
They must’ve upped the price…
It’s a balance on what you’re looking for with tire pressure. Your fuel mileage will significantly decrease with the lower tire pressure but your ride quality will increase.
That is a great point! Thank you for the comment. Every owner should find the balance that's best for them
Rancho 9000XL. Best ever bar none.
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After 25 years of owning Ford diesel trucks the best thing to do to improve the ride quality is buy a 2023 HD 2500 GMC. Maybe it’s the Duramax diesel that has so fewer mechanical issues or the Allison tranny that doesn’t need to be rebuilt after 75K miles. Or maybe it’s the steel body that gives it the weight needed, or better yet maybe the interior that is top notch. I don’t know. But what I do know is I will never own another ford diesel truck, Ford absolutely wore me out with all the monthly repairs, and constant issues. And yes the Ford ride sucks in comparison to the GMC.
It sounds like you’ve owned a lot of ford trucks. What made you decide on a GM versus one of the other brands?
@@powerstrokemaintenance My oldest son is a service manager for a major GMC dealership and before that a service manager for a major Ford dealership. He swears up and down about the quality and dependability of the Duramax over the Ford 6.7 He also has service records that show the Duramax is hands down a better engine. My last Truck, a 1997 F350 7.3 was a tough truck I sold it for 35k in 2020. It leaked fluids on the regular, it was paid for but the r+m monthly bill was huge. My 2012 6.7 was not much better in repairs except they cost twice as much. I love the Cummins but not the quality of truck. Just my experiences, I’m not knocking anyone who owns a Superduty.
That super interesting! Appreciate you sharing the story. I’ve heard good things about the Duramax from other GMC owners and I test drove one and it definitely rode better than my truck haha appreciate you sharing your experiences!
Everyone’s experience is different cause I’ve experienced the exact opposite..I’ve owned numerous Dmax and I’ve never experienced any major problems ..I bought an 18 and now a 22 I’d never go back to GM trucks..Ford interiors and Power of the 6.7 blows the doors off both my Duramax..I’d never consider going back
Wow thanks for the comment! Its interesting to see two people with such dramatically different experiences. I suppose thats bound to happen though given how many trucks the big three make, theres a lot of room for variance of experiences
So I have a 2004 f250 fx4. (Factory Rancho) It rides like a tank. Super stiff.
Any recommendations to soften the ride?
Tire pressure. Check your tires weight rating and air down if you aren’t hauling extra weight. Helps a lot. You could also try different shocks, but that won’t make as much difference as tire pressure