Been watching through all of your videos over the past month. I ended up having an opportunity to bring life back into an abandoned studio that was designed in the 70’s. It’s all treated and has a live room, a drum room, and 5 iso booths all with bays wired to the control room. I had no experience with recording (I am an opera singer, not an engineer) but I’ve been learning and your videos have been something that have kept me going and made me feel like I can do it and can learn this. Thank you thank you THANK YOU!
I tried the Soyus Launcher and it wasn't for me - I am using it in a home environment with a pretty touchy Sennheiser dynamic microphone and a Focuseite 2i2 interface and it actually amplified my laptop's fan noise too much to be useable, that's why I had return it.
The launcher really brought the track alive for me. It is a very 3d distortion, which even guitar distortion is usually quite refined even the crazy stuff and the hair and depth this provides isn't there. Have the guitar focused and the bass a drums wide and 3d like makes the mix sound more dynamic, and live.
Soyuz have released some great gear during the last years, but I'm afraid that purchasing any of their products might become increasingly difficult due to the current sanctions... Also, great video! It's always amazing what a little bit of (parallel) distortion can do - especially on drums. Using two identical overdrive pedals and a set of reamp/DI boxes can work pretty well too from my experience.
I've been in close contact with them through this. Because of what all they wanted to send and what started. They are whole heartedly against the war and have made statements as such. In a place where that can get You in trouble. However they are confounded in the US. Possibly their exports are a bit easier? Not totally sure. But I want to try to support a company working for change from the inside.
@@RecordingStudioLoser Don't get me wrong: Soyuz seems like a really great company that is absolutely worth supporting. I'm just slightly worried that their products might become unavailable in the EU and US in the foreseeable future.
the tierra audio flavor preamps do the same thing! i actually won one recently from a contest/raffelcopter thing that warren huart did awhile back. i have the chilli so its a little too hot for full mixes unless im going for total anihilation of the mix and i only have one so i have to do stereo sources in two pass throughs but its unlike any other piece of gear i own
I have a couple of launchers and love them! I've never used them to run audio through and you got some great sounds here... One thing to mention is the preamp (also the phantom power source) and that will impart character depending on the pre and how much it's driven...Out of interest which pre did you run these back into?
Hi, great stuff man! I like to do these sort of things all the time. Quick question: When you used the launcher in parallel i'd expect it would be out of phase, but it wasn't. How did you do that? I use a lot of guitar pedals as extreme overdrives for my drums. However when i want to use it in real time it's always out of phase (due to the extra conversion). I'd always have to print it first and then fix the time difference, but that's really annoying for getting the right settings since i always have to 'guess' what it would sound like in parallel.
Hardware inserts in most DAWs work with delay compensation. Additionally, there’s usually a manual offset trim to account for latency not reported by your drivers. Use a loopback test to figure out the number of samples to offset (this will change if you adjust your buffer). If you’re not using HW inserts, you can still usually manually adjust the recorded audio compensation in your DAW preferences. Another thing to be careful of is that some guitar pedals and amps will have an inverted output relative to the input. This has to do with the implementation of inverting gain stages (a common op amp and transistor configuration).
@@RecordingStudioLoser so,you Just conect the launcher to the audio interface preamp and then send the mix to that preamp, and thats it? ( sorry, im new at this😅)
Hey I’m a huge fan of this channel. I had a question with the launcher and needed some help. I tried using my launcher with my mesavonic ribbon mic. The chain was Ribbon -> Launcher -> Maag PreQ -> Interface. I could not get any signal using this setup. I did not cut the phantom power on because I didn’t want to damage the ribbon mic. Could you help with this with some suggestions??? Thanks so much!!!
The launcher requires phantom to work. And it will not pass phantom onto the ribbon. The newer launcher deluxe CAN pass phantom but if you have a normal launcher you need to turn on phantom power. Promise you won’t hurt anything as long as the launcher is between the pre and the mic. This is why the regular launchers don’t work with condenser mics.
I love this. I have a Launcher here. I'm trying this thing out like you're using it. I have a nice hybrid setup, so I'd love to be able to run a track out (ie. Bassline) and back in. However, it's NOT doing what you're doing!!! How the heck are you able to gain stage it like that, going into full distortion and saturation of the Launcher, without clipping the heck out of your converters? I'm not understanding. The only way that I get that sound is if I'm clipping the hell out of my converters on the way back in (which is obviously not a good thing). I guess I'm doing something wrong with trying to set this thing up properly. I can't necessarily "drive" into the Soyuz like that without clipping my converters right away. I tried running the Soyuz parallel too. Regardless, the same thing happens. I essentially need an output knob so that I can push into the device without pushing the volume way too loud back into the DAW. Would love some sort of input on this. Thanks man!
@This Guy Hey there, thanks for the reply. Not necessarily. Looks like I'd need to place some sort of attenuator after the Launcher, before hitting my analog sum bus and going back into the DAW. That way I can essential drive into the Launcher, while turning down some sort of an output gain before hitting the analog summing unit. My summing bus does not have any editional gain faders or input trims, etc, so I have no way to control that. As of right now I've been using the Launcher though. I have it set up as a parallel input (running to a single summing bus channel). That way I can pick and choose whichever track I want to add it to. It has definitely given those specific tracks some extra weight. I like it for this use. However, again....I can only push things so hard without it eventually overloading the converters on the way back in. Maybe the Radial SAT-2 Audio Attenuator would be good for what I am looking to do.
Wait, what?! The Launcher is amplifying 48 volts of phantom power from the interface to essentially give the interface an extra 20db+ of gain. Great for low output dynamic/ribbon mics, but how in the world are you passing audio through the Launcher, which is just acting as an outboard amplifier for the interface...so you can use it for saturation...what!? lol
The 48V isn’t being amplified. It’s used to power the active electronics which then amplify the audio signal. The gain is likely from a transistor or two, maybe some additional voltage gain from the transformer. Phantom power is just DC power that your mic signal rides on, it’s not a component of the audio (unless your preamp is broken, but that’s a whole other bag). The Launcher doesn’t care too much if the signal is coming from a microphone or a line level source, just watch your gain staging. It’s a fun box!
@@ryancrawford9894 The Launcher has active electronics in it? The beautiful hand wound transformer that sits in the middle of the Launcher & wiring circuits might have to disagree with your entire explanation. At least he got the title of the video right 😂
@@ryancrawford9894 I'm a total dumb dumb 😞 I asked Marc at Soyuz if the Launcher has active electronics, he replied: There is a transformer & Burr Brown Op-amp. It is active and needs 48v Phantom power to operate. I also asked for the FAQ page of the Launcher (couldn't find link on the website). The Launcher is designed for mic level signals only and to use it as a DI, for Analog Summing or line level sources the FAQ article shows what other equipment is required to make that possible. But don't take my word on it, just visit the website and ask them any questions you may have.
These days JHS Colour box is better for this. …You didn’t note that Launcher is mic level. It doesn’t operate at line level. This was your chance to tell everyone about mic level vs line level. You said -26 but you didn’t explain why which is a fail. To send line through them properly you need to step them down to mic level. Then bring them back up to line level. You can use a stepdown transformer if you aren’t trying to sound like NIN. But if you send line level to Launchers you’re going to get heavy clipping, or you’ll get obnoxious noise if you’re sending signal from an interface that isn’t totally quiet self-noise wise. Frankly though, these days you can use a JHS Colour Box instead. I own 2x Launchers and 2x Colour Box, and these days I don;t touch the Launchers any more.
Been watching through all of your videos over the past month. I ended up having an opportunity to bring life back into an abandoned studio that was designed in the 70’s. It’s all treated and has a live room, a drum room, and 5 iso booths all with bays wired to the control room. I had no experience with recording (I am an opera singer, not an engineer) but I’ve been learning and your videos have been something that have kept me going and made me feel like I can do it and can learn this. Thank you thank you THANK YOU!
I'm super jealous, that is awesome congratulations.
What a beautiful opportunity! Congratulations and best of lucks with it!
yooo conGrats. 😊😊😊.
that bass distortion in stereo is trippy
I wanna buy two and just leave them hooked up for that purpose
I own 2 launchers now- killer little box! I’m gonna have to try this! Great video.
Bought stereo too. Very nice to have.
I love Soyuz! I just bought their 013 FET mic. Such a great mic for my uses! Can’t wait to release some music that I recorded with it.
Yeah buddy
Dude that makes drums explode, and the sound almost reminds me of “British mode” on the 1176. I would love to try pairing it with that.
I liked the saturation a lot more on the bass, but it sounded cool on the drums too! Makes me want to snag one of these!
Agreed
I think I'll give this a try today once I get back down to the studio.
I love that man. Got da SAUCE. The base was meeeaann
That little extra spice 🤌
All pro video dude. Great stuff. Thanks!
Great video and demonstration. It was good with the drums, but I REALLY like what it did with the bass!
I tried the Soyus Launcher and it wasn't for me - I am using it in a home environment with a pretty touchy Sennheiser dynamic microphone and a Focuseite 2i2 interface and it actually amplified my laptop's fan noise too much to be useable, that's why I had return it.
Bro, this video is a gem!
The launcher really brought the track alive for me. It is a very 3d distortion, which even guitar distortion is usually quite refined even the crazy stuff and the hair and depth this provides isn't there. Have the guitar focused and the bass a drums wide and 3d like makes the mix sound more dynamic, and live.
great dive thanks🙏
Soyuz have released some great gear during the last years, but I'm afraid that purchasing any of their products might become increasingly difficult due to the current sanctions...
Also, great video! It's always amazing what a little bit of (parallel) distortion can do - especially on drums. Using two identical overdrive pedals and a set of reamp/DI boxes can work pretty well too from my experience.
I've been in close contact with them through this. Because of what all they wanted to send and what started. They are whole heartedly against the war and have made statements as such. In a place where that can get
You in trouble.
However they are confounded in the US. Possibly their exports are a bit easier? Not totally sure. But I want to try to support a company working for change from the inside.
@@RecordingStudioLoser Don't get me wrong: Soyuz seems like a really great company that is absolutely worth supporting. I'm just slightly worried that their products might become unavailable in the EU and US in the foreseeable future.
@@error8418 wouldn’t that justify buying a product now then? I’m thinking of snagging a 017 before I can’t anymore..
@@Tyler_Wilson Sure, if you have the money to spend, go for it.
Great as always!
the tierra audio flavor preamps do the same thing! i actually won one recently from a contest/raffelcopter thing that warren huart did awhile back. i have the chilli so its a little too hot for full mixes unless im going for total anihilation of the mix and i only have one so i have to do stereo sources in two pass throughs but its unlike any other piece of gear i own
I have a couple of launchers and love them! I've never used them to run audio through and you got some great sounds here... One thing to mention is the preamp (also the phantom power source) and that will impart character depending on the pre and how much it's driven...Out of interest which pre did you run these back into?
Also, does it not affect that you're running line level out into a mic input?
Using this launcher as a dirty insert on the bass amp strip for our live rig.
Dude I didn’t know that! That’s awesome!
Dude where did you get that desk? Looks awesome
Hi, great stuff man! I like to do these sort of things all the time. Quick question: When you used the launcher in parallel i'd expect it would be out of phase, but it wasn't. How did you do that?
I use a lot of guitar pedals as extreme overdrives for my drums. However when i want to use it in real time it's always out of phase (due to the extra conversion). I'd always have to print it first and then fix the time difference, but that's really annoying for getting the right settings since i always have to 'guess' what it would sound like in parallel.
Hardware inserts in most DAWs work with delay compensation. Additionally, there’s usually a manual offset trim to account for latency not reported by your drivers. Use a loopback test to figure out the number of samples to offset (this will change if you adjust your buffer). If you’re not using HW inserts, you can still usually manually adjust the recorded audio compensation in your DAW preferences.
Another thing to be careful of is that some guitar pedals and amps will have an inverted output relative to the input. This has to do with the implementation of inverting gain stages (a common op amp and transistor configuration).
Great video!!!!!, what cable are you useing for conecting back the launcher into the interface?
Thanks! Just and xlr. They need to hit a preamp and get phantom power.
@@RecordingStudioLoser so,you Just conect the launcher to the audio interface preamp and then send the mix to that preamp, and thats it? ( sorry, im new at this😅)
You come out of the interface from a line output then back into a preamp with phantom power.
@@RecordingStudioLoser great! Im gonna try it!!! Thanks! Keep posting these great videos!
Hey I’m a huge fan of this channel. I had a question with the launcher and needed some help. I tried using my launcher with my mesavonic ribbon mic. The chain was Ribbon -> Launcher -> Maag PreQ -> Interface. I could not get any signal using this setup. I did not cut the phantom power on because I didn’t want to damage the ribbon mic. Could you help with this with some suggestions??? Thanks so much!!!
The launcher requires phantom to work. And it will not pass phantom onto the ribbon.
The newer launcher deluxe CAN pass phantom but if you have a normal launcher you need to turn on phantom power.
Promise you won’t hurt anything as long as the launcher is between the pre and the mic.
This is why the regular launchers don’t work with condenser mics.
Thank you so much!!!
time to get a second launcher
Is it signal from the DAW through line out of your interface to Soyuz The Launcher to back in the preamp interface to back in your DAW?
Exactly
@@RecordingStudioLoser thank you bro. Good job. Absolutely genius
Have you ever tried exciter you get the same effect from Efect from an exciter
I love this. I have a Launcher here. I'm trying this thing out like you're using it. I have a nice hybrid setup, so I'd love to be able to run a track out (ie. Bassline) and back in.
However, it's NOT doing what you're doing!!! How the heck are you able to gain stage it like that, going into full distortion and saturation of the Launcher, without clipping the heck out of your converters? I'm not understanding. The only way that I get that sound is if I'm clipping the hell out of my converters on the way back in (which is obviously not a good thing). I guess I'm doing something wrong with trying to set this thing up properly. I can't necessarily "drive" into the Soyuz like that without clipping my converters right away. I tried running the Soyuz parallel too. Regardless, the same thing happens.
I essentially need an output knob so that I can push into the device without pushing the volume way too loud back into the DAW. Would love some sort of input on this. Thanks man!
@This Guy Hey there, thanks for the reply. Not necessarily. Looks like I'd need to place some sort of attenuator after the Launcher, before hitting my analog sum bus and going back into the DAW. That way I can essential drive into the Launcher, while turning down some sort of an output gain before hitting the analog summing unit. My summing bus does not have any editional gain faders or input trims, etc, so I have no way to control that.
As of right now I've been using the Launcher though. I have it set up as a parallel input (running to a single summing bus channel). That way I can pick and choose whichever track I want to add it to. It has definitely given those specific tracks some extra weight. I like it for this use. However, again....I can only push things so hard without it eventually overloading the converters on the way back in. Maybe the Radial SAT-2 Audio Attenuator would be good for what I am looking to do.
Why do I think this would sound amazing with a ribbon mic
Because it IS
I can't wait to try it
Interested in a video about your Burls
I want to play with these on ribbon drum overheads.
Same
Wait, what?!
The Launcher is amplifying 48 volts of phantom power from the interface to essentially give the interface an extra 20db+ of gain. Great for low output dynamic/ribbon mics, but how in the world are you passing audio through the Launcher, which is just acting as an outboard amplifier for the interface...so you can use it for saturation...what!? lol
The 48V isn’t being amplified. It’s used to power the active electronics which then amplify the audio signal. The gain is likely from a transistor or two, maybe some additional voltage gain from the transformer. Phantom power is just DC power that your mic signal rides on, it’s not a component of the audio (unless your preamp is broken, but that’s a whole other bag). The Launcher doesn’t care too much if the signal is coming from a microphone or a line level source, just watch your gain staging. It’s a fun box!
@@ryancrawford9894 The Launcher has active electronics in it? The beautiful hand wound transformer that sits in the middle of the Launcher & wiring circuits might have to disagree with your entire explanation. At least he got the title of the video right 😂
@@aseomg there are active electronics inside the transformer shield can. Why else would you need phantom power?
@@aseomg per Soyuz themselves: “The Launcher’s custom transformer and proprietary circuit have become one of Soyuz’s most closely guarded secrets.”
@@ryancrawford9894 I'm a total dumb dumb 😞 I asked Marc at Soyuz if the Launcher has active electronics, he replied: There is a transformer & Burr Brown Op-amp. It is active and needs 48v Phantom power to operate. I also asked for the FAQ page of the Launcher (couldn't find link on the website).
The Launcher is designed for mic level signals only and to use it as a DI, for Analog Summing or line level sources the FAQ article shows what other equipment is required to make that possible. But don't take my word on it, just visit the website and ask them any questions you may have.
It's a snake oil gimmick. Just drive a tube preamp harder
😂 This is the gate keepiest comment I’ve seen in a long time. If you don’t like it cool. But it’s not snake oil.
Maybe you're right.. it's kinda (very) subtle to my ears.....
These days JHS Colour box is better for this. …You didn’t note that Launcher is mic level. It doesn’t operate at line level. This was your chance to tell everyone about mic level vs line level. You said -26 but you didn’t explain why which is a fail. To send line through them properly you need to step them down to mic level. Then bring them back up to line level. You can use a stepdown transformer if you aren’t trying to sound like NIN. But if you send line level to Launchers you’re going to get heavy clipping, or you’ll get obnoxious noise if you’re sending signal from an interface that isn’t totally quiet self-noise wise.
Frankly though, these days you can use a JHS Colour Box instead. I own 2x Launchers and 2x Colour Box, and these days I don;t touch the Launchers any more.
The video is literally titled using gear wrong….
USING GEAR WRONG - DYNA COMP LAST IN CHAIN VOL AT 12 OR LESS
First 😎
Nice