iso a reasonably priced meucci cue. I am a young player in need of a good cue. no looking for anything extravagant as my funds are limited. any help would be greatly appreciated!
Think about this, no scorekeeper for the video presentation. They were wrong as usual as Thorsten went to the table for his 1st shot at -2. So the score was correct at 135 because the tournament must...have a scorekeeper.Imagine that>
At 1:56 Hohmann tries a massé shot on the ball in the jaws of the top right corner pocket (1?) but misses, hits the rail and then the other dark ball up there (2 or 8?) but never hits a rail after that. Shouldn't that be ball in hand? Archer shoots it from there but it seems he would have been better off taking the ball-in-hand.
These commentators (at least the old ones) just can't imagine how good Hohmann (or Archer) is playing here. I don't like it when they start talking about the old school. In pool (like in any other sports) the current professionals are endlessly better than the old players. In Mosconi's era tables had bigger and easier pockets. The cloth was slower too. Since Asia and especially Europe picked up the game, technique changed from old pool to snooker accuracy. Professionals train hours a day more than in the old days.
+LeonFleisherFan Thicker cloth will absorb more of the energy when a ball hits the cusion. This shortens the angle of the bounce. It's difficult to explain in words, but a pocket will accept more "off direction" pots. If f.i. you were to remove the cusions all together, and a ball would hit the wood, almost every pot will fall, because there is an enourmous absorbsion, see what I mean?
Actually, no. I grew up with the old wool cloths, and since they didn't slide like the new ones, but had that felt-like quality to them that you're describing, object balls would wobble and not fall. It's true that pockets didn't spit balls out the way they do with modern cloth, the object ball would travel less from the pocket, but they didn't accept any more balls - with one exception: the felt would form a groove along the rails with use, that would "guide" slow-rolling balls into corner pockets, but only a the right speed. On the whole, it's easier to cheat the pocket on modern cloth with nylon in it. Also, while pockets may have measured wider between the points, they used to be angled more at the back, which made them accept very little that hit the rail before the pocket, nor balls hit wide into the facing (those invariably go in on modern tables, as long as one hits the point thinner than half-full).
Apart from all that, I much preferred the wool cloth because one needed to perfect one's stroke to move the cue ball. Modern cloth is too easy to play, all a player needs to do is to have one of those perky, short strokes with which they poke at the ball instead of having to stroke it smoothly.
i'll listen to an argument that todays players are better than mosconi , lassiter etc (though i don't agree) but the argument below is not the right one. slow cloth is an advantage in straight pool??? go back to the bar tables...
Great match! Both players played well and made high runs, and the commentary was very instructive. Thank you!
Thanks for uploading, was there over the weekend, but didnt stay for the final.
Scores NOT SHOWN at any moment, even after a frame is over and the next is to start!! Can't understand why .so ....???
Wow can't believe the curve on the cue ball when Johnny tries to one rail at 2 min into the match - it drifts almost an inch to the left!
Once again, Insidepoolmag stream has bunk audio, somebody's mic has some repeat artifact on it.
Oh dear what a scratch at 124:111. Rarely have seen that. Poor Thorsten!
iso a reasonably priced meucci cue. I am a young player in need of a good cue. no looking for anything extravagant as my funds are limited. any help would be greatly appreciated!
What room is this?
What a comeback
Think about this, no scorekeeper for the video presentation. They were wrong as usual as Thorsten went to the table for his 1st shot at -2. So the score was correct at 135 because the tournament must...have a scorekeeper.Imagine that>
At 1:56 Hohmann tries a massé shot on the ball in the jaws of the top right corner pocket (1?) but misses, hits the rail and then the other dark ball up there (2 or 8?) but never hits a rail after that. Shouldn't that be ball in hand? Archer shoots it from there but it seems he would have been better off taking the ball-in-hand.
No ball in hand in straight pool. Fouls are played from where they lay.
Great match!!
Never seen Thorsten take careless.shots like he does here !
great match!
I'm 40 minutes in and haven't heard the score.
I can't believe Johnny missed the ball in hand
These commentators (at least the old ones) just can't imagine how good Hohmann (or Archer) is playing here. I don't like it when they start talking about the old school. In pool (like in any other sports) the current professionals are endlessly better than the old players. In Mosconi's era tables had bigger and easier pockets. The cloth was slower too. Since Asia and especially Europe picked up the game, technique changed from old pool to snooker accuracy. Professionals train hours a day more than in the old days.
I hope you're not talking about Bobby Hunter.
+topneorej Pray tell, how exactly would slower cloth make Straight Pool easier?
+LeonFleisherFan Thicker cloth will absorb more of the energy when a ball hits the cusion. This shortens the angle of the bounce. It's difficult to explain in words, but a pocket will accept more "off direction" pots.
If f.i. you were to remove the cusions all together, and a ball would hit the wood, almost every pot will fall, because there is an enourmous absorbsion, see what I mean?
Actually, no. I grew up with the old wool cloths, and since they didn't slide like the new ones, but had that felt-like quality to them that you're describing, object balls would wobble and not fall. It's true that pockets didn't spit balls out the way they do with modern cloth, the object ball would travel less from the pocket, but they didn't accept any more balls - with one exception: the felt would form a groove along the rails with use, that would "guide" slow-rolling balls into corner pockets, but only a the right speed. On the whole, it's easier to cheat the pocket on modern cloth with nylon in it. Also, while pockets may have measured wider between the points, they used to be angled more at the back, which made them accept very little that hit the rail before the pocket, nor balls hit wide into the facing (those invariably go in on modern tables, as long as one hits the point thinner than half-full).
Apart from all that, I much preferred the wool cloth because one needed to perfect one's stroke to move the cue ball. Modern cloth is too easy to play, all a player needs to do is to have one of those perky, short strokes with which they poke at the ball instead of having to stroke it smoothly.
Wow, this is similar to Mike Dechaine's match vs Corey Deuel. US players have the tendency to miss straight ball in hand shots in critical situations!
are these 2 people professionals at this game?
yep
i would love a go off that sport, i am snooker player in Ireland and 14.1 is not played here but i reckon i would be pretty good at that game.
don't know way game, how ?
plase tell me...
i'll listen to an argument that todays players are better than mosconi , lassiter etc (though i don't agree) but the argument below is not the right one. slow cloth is an advantage in straight pool??? go back to the bar tables...
This is cruel making opponents rack.
The commentator... i wouldn't do that i wouldn't done that .. Thorsten is world champion and you guys aren't.
Johnny 打的也太慢了一點!!!
Zzzzzzzzzz.