my Pajero 2014 works absolutely fine since almost 5 years never breakdown it's my daily use car with weekend offroad picnics with family, and it never beeps unless I drive over 120kph. This father has trust ln pajero.
Very well done video 👏🏿👏🏿 I am Team Mitsubishi Pajero. I've had the 1, two 2's and now the 3. Very good cars the Pajeros, the suspension is incredible 😎 The 4 kinda has the Discovery "feel" of moving away from off road to luxury. Greetings from Uganda 🇺🇬👊🏿🖤🤍
I bought a Pajero a few months back purely on price. I've had Jeeps and Land Rovers in the past with no bad feeling for either. The Pajero is just an honest performer in my book, it's ok at most things and the engine and drive chain are really well sorted. Mine doesn't beep much, maybe Mitsubishi were listening to you?
The Pajero is a highly underrated 4WD , very reliable, but the 3.2 diesel with the Aisan auto, Mitsibishi Superselect transmission is the pick, a mandatory 2 inch lift kit, All terrain tyres and it will go as far as any other of the best. Landrover and Jeep have had appalling reliability and build quality over the years and are not popular at all in remote outback Australia or for that matter most of Africa,
I've had my 2009 NT Pajero 3.2 common rail for quite a long time, it has the updated Aisin 5 speed auto, I have found it very very good off road and tow a 2.3 ton caravan with it, now with over 300,000km on it and working it as hard as ever I have a lot of respect for it, it's honest, reliable and very easy to live with every day, it's my fourth 4wd and by far the best, to me it's not too fancy but more on the practical side.
I agree with everything you said Andrew great review, however being a pajero owner i do have one hack for all the kids playing at home, if you buy a pajero with a rear differential lock, it turns off the Traction Control making the beeping nul and void. with a few modifications like my gen 4 bash plates, lift, bar with winch and 33 inch muddies, it is very capable. and with it approaching 270k km it has only had a new alternator due to my mud fetish ;)
@@jerrymyahzcat the locker is only needed when the beeping is an issue. The beeping is the traction control over heating. In regular 4wding you won’t get the beeping. It’s long extended periods of really low traction.
Excellent video. I've been thinking I'd love to hear Andrew review the 4x4 Dual-cabs (Hilux, Ranger, D-max, etc). They seem to be the face of 4x4 overlanding at the moment, at least in Australia.
Having a swag in the bed of a ute and a 2 inch lift isnt overlanding. Overlanding is more about living out of your vehicle which just isnt good with a ute unless you have a demountable camper. Trust me the Aussi "overland" scene sucks compared to the rest of the world.
@@willyd-adv I was thinking of those that are kitted out with off-road gear with custom cabinets on the back and often a rooftop tent + awning. Dual cabs seem to be popular firstly because they are easily customised (as Andrew noted in the video this is a key thing for such vehicles) with plenty of aftermarket options. Next they are intended to be versatile off road and comfortable on road. They're not prohibitively expensive, and they're often able to be used as a regular vehicle when not overlanding.
The designers at jeep were not worried about making the Grand Cherokee customizable because the have the Wrangler for that. A Wrangler can just about be built from the chassis up from aftermarket parts. It’s really incredible actually. There is an entire economy over here in the states that is based on Wrangler modification.
It's still pretty customizable. Sure it's not a rock crawler like a Wrangler can be but I know a lot of people that Mopar out their Cherokees and Renegades cause they are comfortable to drive for long periods of time in the muck with their families and be a primary car at the same time. You would be surprised at the aftermarket options you can get on Cherokees, and even Compasses and Renegades. I'd take any of them over the SUV options Ford or Chevy are offering nowadays. Are they as off road worthy as a Jeep? No. Can you turn them into pretty capable offroaders thanks to the Mopar aftermarket? Yes.
The point is really that it is more difficult than other vehicles in the same category, not that it can't be done or that Jeep weren't worried about it.
Jake Lunniss Trust me, i get that.the family owns a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WK2) I was just pointing it out for Andrew. Believe it or not the, Jeep WK2 only has 2 more cubic feet of storage than the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (JKU). And the JKU is like only three inches shorter than the WK2. On paper, at least, the two vehicles are in the same class. Owning a 2008 JKUR, the WK2 is a much better general purpose (read on road/off road) vehicle than the JKU. Thats why I pointed it out. I would much rather be driving a WK2 daily in account of the shorter wheel base alone. I have had lots of trouble going from my previous vehicle to the JKUR for that reason alone. But i have this vehicle because that’s just how things worked out. If Andrew does buy the WK2, i hope he buys an aftermarket bumper that improves its angle of attack. With the current front facia there just isnt great wheel access on account of all the air dams.
@@macmurfy2jka Good point. But then allot of the mods people do is go to a sturdier bumper. I know I would just to put a good winch on it. That's what I really like about the new RAM Power Wagon os that you can get a winch from the factory. I wish they did that on some of the Jeep models. I know they offer a bumper on the JL that can fit a winch but I don't think they offer a winch from the factory do they?
As a former owner of 4 Discoveries I now own a 79 dual cab. I wouldn’t pay the increased price for the Discovery 5 as I saw no value in why I had to pay $20,000 more than the previous model for lesser features? Landrover no doubt lost a heap of customers on the latest model! It’s less practical & way to expensive. Even after being offered a significant discount by Landrover on the purchase price I still stepped back in space & time & bought the Landcruiser 79 dual cab & I love it.😊
yeah mate think that would just go to prado. cant beat a good ole toyote. from one brexan to another we know that rover aint winnin' in reliability, it didnt in the 90s and its even more complicated now. jeep is a chrysler brand with typical midrange american reliability, although a supercharged 6+ liter v8 engine could wear a bit on the drivetrain. mitsubishi is a bit of a mystery but should be okay. i have myself a 2007 lexus gx470 (a prado with a bit of luxury inside) and its fantastically reliable. the 4.7 liter v8 puts out more power than i know what to do with and center locking diff, traction control, and fantastic low range makes the limestone around here seem a bit less jagged.
They've all become a lot more complicated and impossible to fix. They could be just as durable as the older ones (doubtful), but the difficulty and cost of maintenance and orders of magnitude higher. Toyota is the only one still doing well in this category.
The early 2000's Pajero Sport is way better than any of these, I have owned all 4 of the vehicles mentioned here in the Video and My Pajero Sport leaves them all for dead.
Andrew i 100% agree on everything you said. however I drive the new Toyota Prado everyday for work in N.T outback Australia and i actually dont mind the interior. (a bit bland compared to the others but practical. Which is what think Toyota was going for in its offroad use.) I absolutely agree that the interior of the Discovery looks better, but lets be honest id never take that vehicle off road (especially with those low profile wheels.) furthermore trying to maintain that interior with the soft leather dash etc would be a nightmare. The Jeep Cheroke, in terms of power performance and price range with all of its fruits it ticks all the boxes but and this is a big but.....their notorious name for unreliability. and again agree i think the mitsubishi Pajero is abit outdated. Love this Video, keep up the great work, enjoy your trip in NZ
Andrew, I have followed and enjoyed your work for quite some time. I have however never seen you mention the VW Touareg? Apologies if I have missed it, but do you not rate it at all or is there any reason you have not done a review on it? I am specifically referring to the model with terrain tech ( low range, centre, and rear diff locks)?
The Jeep traction control system is second to none. I wheel with several JK and JL Wranglers, non-Rubicon models and the continually blow my mind how well it works.
looks like you havent really tried quadro drive 2 on grand cherokee's i also tried non-rubicon jl and jks but qd2's real front,rear and central real lockers are amazing on gc especially between 2005 and 10 they are extra good on real solid axel
only one thig about the old Pajero.You can get into a brand new Pajero(NOT pajero sport) for nearly $20 k less than a prado here in NZ .enough for few low level mods to still be cheaper
I just bought my 2011 GX460 (Prado 150 for those of you outside the states) on Friday :D The previous owner crawled malls, with me she gets a new life of exploring and adventuring off the beaten path! I'm wildly excited.
If there is one person in this world that you can believe when it comes to the honesty when reviewing, comparing and test driving 4x4 vehicles, its Andrew and that's quite simply why the vehicle manufacturers are shit scared of him giving the truthful opinion on their product. Andrew tell it exactly as he sees it with absolutely no bullshit. I can't wait until he is able to get the driving wheel of the new LR Defender, that is going to be a real eye opener. Thanks once again Andrew for bringing us these reviews.
Hi Andrew Great analysis regarding those vehicles. I own a Prado 150 (2015) and like you I too feel the interior's a little boring, it's true Toyota has had this model for ten years, one would think that would be plenty time for to make some meaningful refresh to that very bland interior. When I was in the market for a go-anywhere SUV I watched and red many many reviews and with a conviction even without a test drive, I already knew I wanted a Prado Landcruiser. Now from my experience of owning the Prado 150 (4yrs now) I believe the fundamentals of the Prado AKA "Landcruiser" is mostly a sound and reliable vehicle. Yes it's true this Toyota is still Mr reliable = Landcruiser" yes, its for this reason I am happy with my vehicle choice, it has not failed me yet 🤞.... 80% on road & 20%off road
Can i ask you how's the headroom in the Prado? I have been wondering why nobody makes a SUV like a 4-runner but with more headroom, I'm talking around $50k or less. i know Nissan makes sthe Armada....but hat's not really used for off-road and it doess't have that off-road look. And I know Lexus makes the 470 and 570....but they have that luxury look and people don't really use them for off-road.
Great review have just purchased a 1997 Prado VX in great condition all the bells and whistles awesome car going this weekend really hard finding reviews on Prado especially the older ones really great video and content allround have a great day
you should review the duster, it does stand out from its competitors, it has a locking centre diff, a very low 1st gear and a very utilitarian design, it is so much more accessible to people who don't have land cruiser type money, there is also a huge modification community all around the world. Would also enjoy seeing the fiat panda cross and the new Suzuki Jimny. Budget overlanding!
really hard review for the pajero, I'm really happy with mine. I think you have to test this car also in ruff terrain outside the dunes. Also I think the pajero has one of the most underrated traction controlsystems, it works brilliant. There are enough videos online which compare the jeep, toyota and the pajero, the prado and pajero are often the best cars in view of traction control systems. But yes the pajero is a bit outdated and not longer in production. But I also think, for everyone who search a real and affordeble 4x4, the pajero is a quit good choice. Is reliable, powerful drivetrain, timeless designed and in normal onroad use really good to drive. Additionally there are a huge amount of accessories for the pajero gen 4 on the market, to make him better in view of offroad performance if needed.
Andrew, I really enjoyed this video and I really appreciate how the entire history of the models are included with your own experience and video material from that time. It must be a very small group of people out there who have the experience and material to do this, kudos!
Awesome video Andrew. Thank you for sharing your experience. Just one question. Why all the hate for Navara and Pathfinder. My parents once owned one i've found myself owning one. And i believe its one of the most under rated suvs ever. Have you ever driven one on both tar and off Road?
Hi. Which one is the most reliable 4x4 ( classic real off-roader) Do you make a Top 5 or Top 10 ( better) of the most reliable ( full size and mid size) real off road vehicles? With few arguments of course.
I'm really in doubt about which 4x4 diesel should I choose. I live in Brazil and the cars available here in the appropriate price range are: Mitsubishi Pajero 2011; Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 2007; Mitsubishi Pajero Sport (also called challenger or Dakar) 2010; Toyota Fortuner 2008. How good are these cars off-road? How stable are they on the road? How well built are they? How comfortable are they on difficult roads? I personally am inclined towards Pajero or Pajero Sport. Any answer is welcome.
I appreciate the honesty in your reviews! I don't understand the hate you got from Mitsi fans, i own an '09 Pajero and i completely agree with your assessments. But for my budget and usage, it was the only pick for me.
I'm driving my Land Rover Discovery Series I for quite a few years now and I really like it. Not too big, not too small, very good off-road and a lot of aftermarket equipment. Would I buy the new Discovery 5? I don't think so, too expensive and it doesn't offer me the things that I need. If I would be in the situation of buying a new offroader, I would go for the Toyota Prado (or maybe the Hilux). And that says it all, I think Land Rover is loosing a part of their customers nowadays...
Well sir,I am impressed by your comparison,but I would say none of them are bad (except the 4th generation discovery),I am a land cruiser 70 ,Nissan patrol y61 ,pajero mk2 and a Land Rover defender guy,but I also like many other 4x4s ,and would love to own them,others might have a Land Rover discovery 2 as their preference,but I never stop them fro. Preferring it,and in fact I love them
Great product comparison. I tend to watch the road and only cross check the gauges and really don't even notice the dash or controls once set when I start to drive. I prefer to have the key controls up and away from anything that can hit or accidently activate them. Toyota does a good job of that. All manufacturers need to rethink the traction control and provide a true off road version so we don't get the funny noises and beeping or limp mode activated when I really want power to the wheels - any wheel. Nice work Andrew.
It's really great to watch a video that is completely unbiased. I drive a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel and I love it !. It's powerful, comfortable, economical and reliable and I dare say if I was to buy another 4x4 wagon tomorrow it'd be another Jeep. However after watching this video I'd consider any of the other three. Well done Andrew !!!.
Boy I tell you, even though I'm American and apparently biased the Quadra-Drive was FAR superior. It needed more maintenance than an open system with traction control but it was an actual lsd/locker as opposed to brake bakes. Quadra-drive was magic when it was maintained properly and it could fully and automatically lock the differentials smoothly and seamlessly. Land Rover's system, was mostly a test to see how fast you could make the three amigo's appear and disappear.
Great Show!👍 I enjoyed a lot! Subbed and liked!😉 I will stay with my 2005 Disco 3 V8, I just love it.... and it is much more reliable than my last Audi, same age😣 Best regards from Bavaria 👍
Great review, I would love to see a review on the Prado 90 vs Prado 120. I have just bought a 2002 Prado 95 D4D auto. I did look at a 120 & also Grand Cherokee 05 but didn’t because of reliability concerns.
If I had to choose I would take the Jeep Cherokee as I owned a XJ & off road it was a virtual mule in going places + they have the magnificent Hemi engine.
This was a great review Andrew. Just about spot on with this review, but out of all these I would go the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trialhawk. For me it's the best of both worlds, great off road, great tourer, great tow vehicle and I don't care what other say, love the look and they are very comfortable, you have power seats to raise them up to a comfy height you know. You really can get some good after market gear for these now, and with a good set of off road tyres will keep up with the best and you don't need to change everything like the 70 series LC. Also don't have to put in a lift kit, lift it up with the air suspension when needed and put it back down when touring on the black top. Great diesel engine with class leading power, what more do you want. I'm a little bias, as I have a 2010 WH diesel and that's very good.
Hands down I’d buy the Discovery 5. The rear end is a bit ugly (though you probably get used to it) but the rest is gorgeous. It’s super capable with the best engine and best 4WD system by far. It’s the nicest on-road and nicest off-road and has the best interior. As you say (and this is a huge huge thing) you sit in the cabin and that’s what you see and feel all day - can’t beat the interior (though I’d get cream or white and never dark colours eugh). You don’t drive from the outside. The Jeep is nice inside too but the Land Rover is better - the other two are bland and disgraceful inside. I’ve driven a Discovery 5 for 2 days and it’s hands down the winner. Wish I could own one now but my current Land Rover is a work of art and suits me just fine for now.
Great review and very funny end. Having replaced my stolen Disco 4 with a Disco 5, I must say I love it. But you're right, in many ways the Disco 4 was more practical and I do miss the drop down tailgate. I don't mind the look of the back end but I do miss the drop down tailgate. For everything else I use the vehicle for; long motorway journeys, towing a large caravan, carrying lots of stuff in incredible comfort, it's the perfect vehicle. But I don't go off road; a few muddy building sites and boggy fields aside. If I did, I'd have bought another Disco 4 without a thought. All this aside though, I can't disagree with any of your comments and observations regarding any of the vehicles. As I said, great review.
Andrew, I'm wondering what's the point running Prado besides the LC anymore, since both now have IFS and both extremely pricey and has luxury interior? In fact, why would anyone buy a new Prado instead of an LC200 for example? I know they are a different class, but still..
Awesome video. I waexpecting you to talk about reliability since that one of the most important aspects for the use these vehicles are intended. I had a Grand Cherokee 2015 and was not reliable. Many people in North America dismiss the GC becasue of reliability. Is it any more unreliable than, say Land Rover? I guess the Japanese are more reliable?
I really appreciate your honesty, dry humor and foremost your passion which always shines through your presentations; over many decades. I love it !!Never change mate!!
The dashboard always seems to be a weak point with Japanese cars. I chose the Grand Cherokee partly because of Quadra Drive II but also because they had a 3L engine compared to at the time Discovery’s 2.5L. Now we’re on the new Grand Cherokee and they’ve made it much more luxurious inside. It was quite an upgrade for buying the same car again albeit the next version. Also the people in the Land Rover dealership were extremely snooty.
Absolutely correct about the middle seat in the Prado, we’ve had a 2012 model since new and everyone that’s sat in that seat has hated it. Would not want to do a long trip in tat seat. Other than that it’s been a fantastic vehicle over the last 6 years(105k) and has only needed regular services.
If you have a Prado 90 series and haven't checked the lower ball joints in a while, do it before one of the front wheels come off. I know it happens because it happened to us and it has happened to many other people
Hi I enjoyed the comparisons and they were very interesting. The one part that I did not get was why did you rate Nissan´s Pathfinder so badly........could you give some support to the statement? As an owner of a 2007 Nissan Pathfinder, I am interested in hearing these reasons that downgraded it from the choice list.....
Another good report Andrew - I’m a Toyota owner now and despite the impressive off-road abilities of the Land Rover and Jeep their well-known poor long term reliability and build quality is a problem - in fact despite a strong Jeep campaign in Australia during the last year or so sales have dropped off quite significantly compared to Toyota for example - their service/customer culture is woeful and I would never buy something built in the USA, UK (India) or here in Australia. As far I’m concerned Toyota is the only off-road brand that will get you there and back with confidence. John in SA.
You love bashing the Disco 2, but do think about it this way; it ended up having a CDL, a ladder frame, solid axles, excellent clearance, excellent suspension travel and very acceptable on-road handling. It IS a better car than a Disco 1, the traction control with center lock is pretty good for it's time. I test drove a Disco 5 and holy cow that is a nice car. Flip on all the off roady bits and raise the suspension to the highest setting and that thing would go anywhere.
I enjoyed that. I know you cant get them in the UK, (the new Y62) but I'd love to get your overview on the Nissan Patrol. Same as in the video, past to present. It's the one vehicle you never seem to have anything to do with. Thanks.
I know it's a discontinued model, but I would be curious as to your opinion of the Jeep Commander. We owned an '08 and absolutely loved it with its Quadradrive II. I've always wondered what a proper overlander would think.
hey andrew if you were given one choice between the 4th gen pajero and 4th gen prado, which one would you chose? Please note that I am a Pajero 4th gen owner
I really liked the Discovery 1, mine was the V8 Manual, I also owned The Grand Cherokee LTD and a Prado short wheel base, But I prefer the Pajero Mk2, Now I have a Shogun Sport / Challenger and it is even better than the Mk2 pajero, The Sport is more sure footed and On Road it feels more alive and it is better on fuel and still drives like a new Truck./ Car. And handles rough roads a lot better than the Mk2. The Shogun Sport is the best model they have made to date,
Bloody brilliant vid! Loved the ending and thought your review was pretty much spot on (even being a LR fan). I agree with eh Jeep QuadraTrac system, when I first saw it in action against my D2 in 2002 I was well impressed, just better and allowed more fine grained control when you got used to it. Cramped interior and marginally better engine (at the time, get better with development). So, G Wagon for you next then ??
Andrew great video as always . Also noticed in the description that you referred to the US spec Discovery as the LR5. They stopped that naming scheme, it’s just Discovery again. And I think you need to drive a Discovery 2 again. Mine has a CDL and traction control, so it’s really good off road. Even better than my D1.
Lovely overview. Do you have a review of Discovery 4 v Discovery 5?? I couldn’t bring myself to buy a D5 without the best feature, the split tailgate. I have the last of D4 instead… until LR get it right!
That is absolutely fascinating. I had a Disco 1, 1994. Loved it to bits, until it rusted to nothing. Would I buy a new one, No. I, like you, find them extremely ugly and let's be honest, with all the electronics, would you trust it? Your take on the other vehicles, is equally interesting. All manufacturers seem to think that they know exactly what we require, whilst sitting in their offices sipping tea. I'll stick to my old series 3 safari. At least I can fix it.
I would love to hear your take on vehicles like the Toyota Fortuner, Ford Everest, Isuzu M-UX, Mitsubishi Pajero Sport, etc and/or the double cab bakkies they are based on (Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger, Isuzu D-Max, Mitsubishi Triton, etc) as I think globally these vehicles have become the entry point to 4x4 vehicles and off-roading for many people. The vehicles you reviewed in this video have become so expensive that many are simply not affordable to the everyman anymore. (Entry price of the Discovery 5 in South Africa is ±R1,6mil or ±AUS$134,000!) These other vehicles are often also best sellers in countries like South Africa and Australia for this very reason - you generally get of lot of bang for your buck. As you well know, Saffas and Aussies love getting off the beaten track but can't always afford a dedicated vehicle for this purpose (like your lovely Troopy for example) and thus need a vehicle that can perform the daily school/work run and do the odd bit of weekend off road driving. And who knows? Maybe we can get another good old-fashioned Andrew rant about something in one of these vehicles that the rest of the journalists out there dare not say for fear of never being given a vehicle to review, ever again... ;) Keep up the good work, I really enjoy the content! Thank you!
Great review. Being in the US I would like to see you test and review the different versions of the Toyota 4Runner... Especially the Traction Control/Crawl Control/Terrain select system...
Andrew you are saying that you can’t live with the Prado interior, probably is not the best interior but, how you can live with the 70 series interior? That interior is from a 30 old year car. How can you explain that?
I don't see that age has any bearing on it. Some interiors from cars made in the 60s' were the most interesting of all time. The Prado dash is far better in almost every respect but for the fact that it is deadly dull. The 70-series dash at least has character. (BTW This dash was first seen 12 years ago.)
4xoverland yes, maybe was seen 12 years ago but, that kind of interior was the ones that 80’s and 90’s car. The question is: is the Prado interior functional for you in the same way that the 70 series is functional for you? PS. Thank you for your response. I’m watching your videos the whole weekend and I appreciate your content. I just bought a 2019 Toyota 4Runner and I can’t wait to travel just the way you do on your 70 series. Regards.
My next car will be a Prado... but I wouldn’t get the GXL, I’ll get a VX (in New Zealand) for the money you get all those little things that just make it a nicer place to be, leather, heated/cooled seats sat nav and power seats. It’s no worse on the inside than my Outback!
From a USA perspective, most Jeeps that see dirt are the Wrangler, the discovery is generally known for horrible reliability due mostly to it's gasoline V8, but capable off road, the Prado is sold here as a Lexus, and therefore, expensive but capable off road. The Montero/Pajero has been unavailable for some time but the first and second generation has a following and they can be bought cheaply, again, no diesel, only gasoline powered V6 models which are good as long as you change the timing belt at recommended intervals. Me personally, I'm looking for a first generation Montero for simplicity and strength.
Why are all these traction control systems better than triple lockers? Would seem to me that spinning all wheels the same speed regardless is going to get you through anything.
Andrew thanks for your video very nice work, i have a question for you, i want to get a brand new 2020 Mitsubishi pajero short wheel base SWB, here in Bogotá Colombia where i live they offer it with a reliable 3.5 litre V6 Engine they say , i always loved the overall look of the car and have been told its a very good off roader, can you give me your opinión about it ? Is it good? How is the quality, and reliabilty? Thank you.
The overall boot space in Disco 4 is the reason we have gone back to 1, well actually 2, Disco 4s. His and hers. We sold our RR Sport Autobiography, which was awesome but with spectacularly poor boot space and did not have ..... the drop down tail gate!
I think the Discovery is light years ahead of the rest in all areas. Looks are a very personal and while I agree to a point but you simply cannot deny the Discovery is an awesome machine. I just wish it looked more like the Discovery 4.
By this video, you must go for the Jeep Grand Cherokee, V6 diesel. Best allround 4X4 on the market. The only criticism was lack of after market parts, well in most instances eg Trailhawk, you don't need to do a lot of mods. 4WD system perfect, ride height perfect with airlift, but you can put on a bullbar/winch, driving lights, larger tyres if you want to, roof rack, so what more do you want. Heaps of power, 3500kg tow rating and great fuel economy and at a good price.
Really nice video. I really want to see you making reviews or just talking about toyota 4runner, toyota fortuner sw4, Mitsubishi Pajero sport, ford Everest, isuzu mu-x, chevrolet trail blazer (Holden)... Very capable off road suv with body frame and platform 120. Really popular cars in south america.
Excellent video, thank you very much for sharing a piece of objective criteria. I like that the PAJERO could be an honest all around vehicle, specially because I bet there should be great deals on those last units before the go the way of the dinosaur. Greetings from Mexico!
Sounds like if Attenborough did cars
The most honest reviewer of all time, I salute you sir!
my Pajero 2014 works absolutely fine since almost 5 years never breakdown it's my daily use car with weekend offroad picnics with family, and it never beeps unless I drive over 120kph. This father has trust ln pajero.
joshelajanu That too can be switched off.
I was undecided between the Prado and the Pajero. Your videos made me choose the Prado in 2017. Thanks for all your great videos.
Very well done video 👏🏿👏🏿
I am Team Mitsubishi Pajero. I've had the 1, two 2's and now the 3. Very good cars the Pajeros, the suspension is incredible 😎
The 4 kinda has the Discovery "feel" of moving away from off road to luxury.
Greetings from Uganda 🇺🇬👊🏿🖤🤍
I bought a Pajero a few months back purely on price. I've had Jeeps and Land Rovers in the past with no bad feeling for either. The Pajero is just an honest performer in my book, it's ok at most things and the engine and drive chain are really well sorted. Mine doesn't beep much, maybe Mitsubishi were listening to you?
I liked your comment simply because I'm gonna buy Pajero anyway. Thanks bro
The Pajero is a highly underrated 4WD , very reliable, but the 3.2 diesel with the Aisan auto, Mitsibishi Superselect transmission is the pick, a mandatory 2 inch lift kit, All terrain tyres and it will go as far as any other of the best.
Landrover and Jeep have had appalling reliability and build quality over the years and are not popular at all in remote outback Australia or for that matter most of Africa,
I've had my 2009 NT Pajero 3.2 common rail for quite a long time, it has the updated Aisin 5 speed auto, I have found it very very good off road and tow a 2.3 ton caravan with it, now with over 300,000km on it and working it as hard as ever I have a lot of respect for it, it's honest, reliable and very easy to live with every day, it's my fourth 4wd and by far the best, to me it's not too fancy but more on the practical side.
Pajero all day, had mine 12 years and it's never let me down, it's brilliant 👌👌
I agree with everything you said Andrew great review,
however being a pajero owner i do have one hack for all the kids playing at home, if you buy a pajero with a rear differential lock, it turns off the Traction Control making the beeping nul and void. with a few modifications like my gen 4 bash plates, lift, bar with winch and 33 inch muddies, it is very capable. and with it approaching 270k km it has only had a new alternator due to my mud fetish ;)
Can’t use the locker all the time and shouldn’t need to use it often anyway.
@@jerrymyahzcat the locker is only needed when the beeping is an issue. The beeping is the traction control over heating. In regular 4wding you won’t get the beeping. It’s long extended periods of really low traction.
Excellent video. I've been thinking I'd love to hear Andrew review the 4x4 Dual-cabs (Hilux, Ranger, D-max, etc). They seem to be the face of 4x4 overlanding at the moment, at least in Australia.
Yes! Please do that Andrew!
Having a swag in the bed of a ute and a 2 inch lift isnt overlanding.
Overlanding is more about living out of your vehicle which just isnt good with a ute unless you have a demountable camper.
Trust me the Aussi "overland" scene sucks compared to the rest of the world.
@@willyd-adv I was thinking of those that are kitted out with off-road gear with custom cabinets on the back and often a rooftop tent + awning. Dual cabs seem to be popular firstly because they are easily customised (as Andrew noted in the video this is a key thing for such vehicles) with plenty of aftermarket options. Next they are intended to be versatile off road and comfortable on road. They're not prohibitively expensive, and they're often able to be used as a regular vehicle when not overlanding.
The designers at jeep were not worried about making the Grand Cherokee customizable because the have the Wrangler for that. A Wrangler can just about be built from the chassis up from aftermarket parts. It’s really incredible actually. There is an entire economy over here in the states that is based on Wrangler modification.
It's still pretty customizable. Sure it's not a rock crawler like a Wrangler can be but I know a lot of people that Mopar out their Cherokees and Renegades cause they are comfortable to drive for long periods of time in the muck with their families and be a primary car at the same time.
You would be surprised at the aftermarket options you can get on Cherokees, and even Compasses and Renegades. I'd take any of them over the SUV options Ford or Chevy are offering nowadays. Are they as off road worthy as a Jeep? No. Can you turn them into pretty capable offroaders thanks to the Mopar aftermarket? Yes.
The point is really that it is more difficult than other vehicles in the same category, not that it can't be done or that Jeep weren't worried about it.
Jake Lunniss Trust me, i get that.the family owns a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WK2)
I was just pointing it out for Andrew.
Believe it or not the, Jeep WK2 only has 2 more cubic feet of storage than the Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (JKU). And the JKU is like only three inches shorter than the WK2. On paper, at least, the two vehicles are in the same class. Owning a 2008 JKUR, the WK2 is a much better general purpose (read on road/off road) vehicle than the JKU. Thats why I pointed it out.
I would much rather be driving a WK2 daily in account of the shorter wheel base alone. I have had lots of trouble going from my previous vehicle to the JKUR for that reason alone. But i have this vehicle because that’s just how things worked out.
If Andrew does buy the WK2, i hope he buys an aftermarket bumper that improves its angle of attack. With the current front facia there just isnt great wheel access on account of all the air dams.
@@macmurfy2jka Good point. But then allot of the mods people do is go to a sturdier bumper. I know I would just to put a good winch on it. That's what I really like about the new RAM Power Wagon os that you can get a winch from the factory. I wish they did that on some of the Jeep models. I know they offer a bumper on the JL that can fit a winch but I don't think they offer a winch from the factory do they?
@@macmurfy2jka you need to "read between the lines" when viewing Andrew's videos.
As a former owner of 4 Discoveries I now own a 79 dual cab. I wouldn’t pay the increased price for the Discovery 5 as I saw no value in why I had to pay $20,000 more than the previous model for lesser features? Landrover no doubt lost a heap of customers on the latest model! It’s less practical & way to expensive. Even after being offered a significant discount by Landrover on the purchase price I still stepped back in space & time & bought the Landcruiser 79 dual cab & I love it.😊
Good video but would have been interesting to also have a discussion about the evolution of reliability (or lack thereof) across the models and years
yeah mate think that would just go to prado. cant beat a good ole toyote. from one brexan to another we know that rover aint winnin' in reliability, it didnt in the 90s and its even more complicated now. jeep is a chrysler brand with typical midrange american reliability, although a supercharged 6+ liter v8 engine could wear a bit on the drivetrain. mitsubishi is a bit of a mystery but should be okay. i have myself a 2007 lexus gx470 (a prado with a bit of luxury inside) and its fantastically reliable. the 4.7 liter v8 puts out more power than i know what to do with and center locking diff, traction control, and fantastic low range makes the limestone around here seem a bit less jagged.
They've all become a lot more complicated and impossible to fix. They could be just as durable as the older ones (doubtful), but the difficulty and cost of maintenance and orders of magnitude higher. Toyota is the only one still doing well in this category.
@@clappedclipco for all terrain vehicle land rover discovery is the best and reliable too
the great Salvador Land Rovers have always been terrible for reliability, especially the more modern ones. They’re notorious for it.
Andrew, maybe an idea to follow this up with a second tier comparison - Fortuner, Everest, MUX (and whatever Holden calls it), and Pajero Sport.
The early 2000's Pajero Sport is way better than any of these, I have owned all 4 of the vehicles mentioned here in the Video and My Pajero Sport leaves them all for dead.
first time viewing this channel, a 3 year old video, you just got yourself another sub, probably the most open and honest 4wd video I've seen
Andrew i 100% agree on everything you said. however I drive the new Toyota Prado everyday for work in N.T outback Australia and i actually dont mind the interior. (a bit bland compared to the others but practical. Which is what think Toyota was going for in its offroad use.)
I absolutely agree that the interior of the Discovery looks better, but lets be honest id never take that vehicle off road (especially with those low profile wheels.) furthermore trying to maintain that interior with the soft leather dash etc would be a nightmare.
The Jeep Cheroke, in terms of power performance and price range with all of its fruits it ticks all the boxes but and this is a big but.....their notorious name for unreliability.
and again agree i think the mitsubishi Pajero is abit outdated.
Love this Video, keep up the great work, enjoy your trip in NZ
Andrew, I have followed and enjoyed your work for quite some time. I have however never seen you mention the VW Touareg? Apologies if I have missed it, but do you not rate it at all or is there any reason you have not done a review on it? I am specifically referring to the model with terrain tech ( low range, centre, and rear diff locks)?
The Jeep traction control system is second to none. I wheel with several JK and JL Wranglers, non-Rubicon models and the continually blow my mind how well it works.
looks like you havent really tried quadro drive 2 on grand cherokee's i also tried non-rubicon jl and jks but qd2's real front,rear and central real lockers are amazing on gc especially between 2005 and 10 they are extra good on real solid axel
I guess I’ll keep my disco 2a td5 then. Great vid 🤙 ending 😂😂😂
only one thig about the old Pajero.You can get into a brand new Pajero(NOT pajero sport) for nearly $20 k less than a prado here in NZ .enough for few low level mods to still be cheaper
I just bought my 2011 GX460 (Prado 150 for those of you outside the states) on Friday :D The previous owner crawled malls, with me she gets a new life of exploring and adventuring off the beaten path! I'm wildly excited.
People do yourslef a favor and watch until the very end. Andrew being Andrew lol.
He drives a 70 series and he's criticising dashes 🤦♂️
@@geoff6532 you just don't get it....the 70 doesn't try to be something it isn't whereas these cars are meant to be refined and comfortable
@@cyclemoto8744 don't get me wrong, my daily drive is a 6x6 perentie, I was just being facetious
@@geoff6532 In that case I've taken your comment out of context. Cheers
Jose M ... That’s just Andrew ... ah, yes, and me!! :)
If there is one person in this world that you can believe when it comes to the honesty when reviewing, comparing and test driving 4x4 vehicles, its Andrew and that's quite simply why the vehicle manufacturers are shit scared of him giving the truthful opinion on their product. Andrew tell it exactly as he sees it with absolutely no bullshit. I can't wait until he is able to get the driving wheel of the new LR Defender, that is going to be a real eye opener. Thanks once again Andrew for bringing us these reviews.
This Guy is way underrated, his videos are as good as any off-road camera crew and He is on His
Own. Independence .
Hi Andrew Great analysis regarding those vehicles. I own a Prado 150 (2015) and like you I too feel the interior's a little boring, it's true Toyota has had this model for ten years, one would think that would be plenty time for to make some meaningful refresh to that very bland interior. When I was in the market for a go-anywhere SUV I watched and red many many reviews and with a conviction even without a test drive, I already knew I wanted a Prado Landcruiser. Now from my experience of owning the Prado 150 (4yrs now) I believe the fundamentals of the Prado AKA "Landcruiser" is mostly a sound and reliable vehicle. Yes it's true this Toyota is still Mr reliable = Landcruiser"
yes, its for this reason I am happy with my vehicle choice, it has not failed me yet 🤞.... 80% on road & 20%off road
Can i ask you how's the headroom in the Prado? I have been wondering why nobody makes a SUV like a 4-runner but with more headroom, I'm talking around $50k or less. i know Nissan makes sthe Armada....but hat's not really used for off-road and it doess't have that off-road look. And I know Lexus makes the 470 and 570....but they have that luxury look and people don't really use them for off-road.
Great review have just purchased a 1997 Prado VX in great condition all the bells and whistles awesome car going this weekend really hard finding reviews on Prado especially the older ones really great video and content allround have a great day
I'll go for the Prado all day everday
4runner trd pro> Prado all day
@@dexterrr9163 they're basically the same mechanically.
Never seen a review like this. Was amazing. The format and narration was brilliant. Thanks Andrew. Amazing work as always.
you should review the duster, it does stand out from its competitors, it has a locking centre diff, a very low 1st gear and a very utilitarian design, it is so much more accessible to people who don't have land cruiser type money, there is also a huge modification community all around the world. Would also enjoy seeing the fiat panda cross and the new Suzuki Jimny. Budget overlanding!
Great video! Perfect summary of the most interesting 4x4s of the last 30-50 years. Fully agree with the summary and love the 5 seater test.
really hard review for the pajero, I'm really happy with mine. I think you have to test this car also in ruff terrain outside the dunes. Also I think the pajero has one of the most underrated traction controlsystems, it works brilliant. There are enough videos online which compare the jeep, toyota and the pajero, the prado and pajero are often the best cars in view of traction control systems.
But yes the pajero is a bit outdated and not longer in production.
But I also think, for everyone who search a real and affordeble 4x4, the pajero is a quit good choice. Is reliable, powerful drivetrain, timeless designed and in normal onroad use really good to drive.
Additionally there are a huge amount of accessories for the pajero gen 4 on the market, to make him better in view of offroad performance if needed.
Andrew,
I really enjoyed this video and I really appreciate how the entire history of the models are included with your own experience and video material from that time.
It must be a very small group of people out there who have the experience and material to do this, kudos!
Awesome video Andrew. Thank you for sharing your experience. Just one question. Why all the hate for Navara and Pathfinder. My parents once owned one i've found myself owning one. And i believe its one of the most under rated suvs ever. Have you ever driven one on both tar and off Road?
Hi. Which one is the most reliable 4x4 ( classic real off-roader) Do you make a Top 5 or Top 10 ( better) of the most reliable ( full size and mid size) real off road vehicles? With few arguments of course.
I'm really in doubt about which 4x4 diesel should I choose. I live in Brazil and the cars available here in the appropriate price range are: Mitsubishi Pajero 2011; Toyota Land Cruiser Prado 2007; Mitsubishi Pajero Sport (also called challenger or Dakar) 2010; Toyota Fortuner 2008. How good are these cars off-road? How stable are they on the road? How well built are they? How comfortable are they on difficult roads? I personally am inclined towards Pajero or Pajero Sport. Any answer is welcome.
I appreciate the honesty in your reviews! I don't understand the hate you got from Mitsi fans, i own an '09 Pajero and i completely agree with your assessments. But for my budget and usage, it was the only pick for me.
Agreed!! I’ve had 3 Lr and own Lr4 atm and the best feature is the tailgate! Or and everything else ;)
Classic Andrew St Pierre! What a pleasure is to listen to this man! He reminds me of the man who taught me my trade!
I'm driving my Land Rover Discovery Series I for quite a few years now and I really like it. Not too big, not too small, very good off-road and a lot of aftermarket equipment.
Would I buy the new Discovery 5? I don't think so, too expensive and it doesn't offer me the things that I need.
If I would be in the situation of buying a new offroader, I would go for the Toyota Prado (or maybe the Hilux). And that says it all, I think Land Rover is loosing a part of their customers nowadays...
Disco 1 and 2 are the pinnacle of offroad vehicle. Same as Toyota 70,80 and 105 series. The new ones has just gotten soft. IFS and now IRS.
@@Lcr34 IRS? When?
I really enjoyed this format of video. Keep up the good work Andrew
Well sir,I am impressed by your comparison,but I would say none of them are bad (except the 4th generation discovery),I am a land cruiser 70 ,Nissan patrol y61 ,pajero mk2 and a Land Rover defender guy,but I also like many other 4x4s ,and would love to own them,others might have a Land Rover discovery 2 as their preference,but I never stop them fro. Preferring it,and in fact I love them
Great product comparison. I tend to watch the road and only cross check the gauges and really don't even notice the dash or controls once set when I start to drive. I prefer to have the key controls up and away from anything that can hit or accidently activate them. Toyota does a good job of that. All manufacturers need to rethink the traction control and provide a true off road version so we don't get the funny noises and beeping or limp mode activated when I really want power to the wheels - any wheel. Nice work Andrew.
A very passionate analysis of the vehicles.You set the benchmark of overlanding
I think I’ve only just appreciated how well made these videos are
If you watch Andrew's other channel on film making you see all the concepts explained in his usual clear authoritative style.
It's really great to watch a video that is completely unbiased. I drive a 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee diesel and I love it !. It's powerful, comfortable, economical and reliable and I dare say if I was to buy another 4x4 wagon tomorrow it'd be another Jeep. However after watching this video I'd consider any of the other three.
Well done Andrew !!!.
11:27 was the 3rd generation Grand Cherokee, none the less an excellent video Andrew 👍
Boy I tell you, even though I'm American and apparently biased the Quadra-Drive was FAR superior. It needed more maintenance than an open system with traction control but it was an actual lsd/locker as opposed to brake bakes. Quadra-drive was magic when it was maintained properly and it could fully and automatically lock the differentials smoothly and seamlessly. Land Rover's system, was mostly a test to see how fast you could make the three amigo's appear and disappear.
Great Show!👍 I enjoyed a lot! Subbed and liked!😉 I will stay with my 2005 Disco 3 V8, I just love it.... and it is much more reliable than my last Audi, same age😣 Best regards from Bavaria 👍
Great review, I would love to see a review on the Prado 90 vs Prado 120. I have just bought a 2002 Prado 95 D4D auto. I did look at a 120 & also Grand Cherokee 05 but didn’t because of reliability concerns.
If I had to choose I would take the Jeep Cherokee as I owned a XJ & off road it was a virtual mule in going places + they have the magnificent Hemi engine.
No they don't. Grand Cherokees are available with the Hemi. The Cherokees are not, and never were regardless of model.
This was a great review Andrew. Just about spot on with this review, but out of all these I would go the Jeep Grand Cherokee Trialhawk. For me it's the best of both worlds, great off road, great tourer, great tow vehicle and I don't care what other say, love the look and they are very comfortable, you have power seats to raise them up to a comfy height you know.
You really can get some good after market gear for these now, and with a good set of off road tyres will keep up with the best and you don't need to change everything like the 70 series LC. Also don't have to put in a lift kit, lift it up with the air suspension when needed and put it back down when touring on the black top.
Great diesel engine with class leading power, what more do you want. I'm a little bias, as I have a 2010 WH diesel and that's very good.
Hands down I’d buy the Discovery 5. The rear end is a bit ugly (though you probably get used to it) but the rest is gorgeous. It’s super capable with the best engine and best 4WD system by far. It’s the nicest on-road and nicest off-road and has the best interior. As you say (and this is a huge huge thing) you sit in the cabin and that’s what you see and feel all day - can’t beat the interior (though I’d get cream or white and never dark colours eugh). You don’t drive from the outside. The Jeep is nice inside too but the Land Rover is better - the other two are bland and disgraceful inside. I’ve driven a Discovery 5 for 2 days and it’s hands down the winner. Wish I could own one now but my current Land Rover is a work of art and suits me just fine for now.
Great review and very funny end.
Having replaced my stolen Disco 4 with a Disco 5, I must say I love it. But you're right, in many ways the Disco 4 was more practical and I do miss the drop down tailgate. I don't mind the look of the back end but I do miss the drop down tailgate. For everything else I use the vehicle for; long motorway journeys, towing a large caravan, carrying lots of stuff in incredible comfort, it's the perfect vehicle. But I don't go off road; a few muddy building sites and boggy fields aside. If I did, I'd have bought another Disco 4 without a thought.
All this aside though, I can't disagree with any of your comments and observations regarding any of the vehicles. As I said, great review.
Thamk you for this nice video .
If we compared the pajero with Nissan pathfinder third generation, which is better?
Andrew, I'm wondering what's the point running Prado besides the LC anymore, since both now have IFS and both extremely pricey and has luxury interior? In fact, why would anyone buy a new Prado instead of an LC200 for example? I know they are a different class, but still..
Engine size brings extra consumption and taxes.
I stick with 120 lc.
Fantastic episode, this is the kind of video I love. It also makes me super happy that Ive decided to turn my Discovery 1 into a 130 Overlander!
Seriously ....? You're joking right?
LOVED the ending of this review 🤣🤣🤣.
Awesome video. I waexpecting you to talk about reliability since that one of the most important aspects for the use these vehicles are intended. I had a Grand Cherokee 2015 and was not reliable. Many people in North America dismiss the GC becasue of reliability. Is it any more unreliable than, say Land Rover? I guess the Japanese are more reliable?
Love it the last comment.... I did buy the Prado for two other reasons - 1) Dealer networks, 2nd to none 2) Resale value, 2nd to none.
I really appreciate your honesty, dry humor and foremost your passion which always
shines through your presentations; over many decades. I love it !!Never change mate!!
The dashboard always seems to be a weak point with Japanese cars. I chose the Grand Cherokee partly because of Quadra Drive II but also because they had a 3L engine compared to at the time Discovery’s 2.5L. Now we’re on the new Grand Cherokee and they’ve made it much more luxurious inside. It was quite an upgrade for buying the same car again albeit the next version. Also the people in the Land Rover dealership were extremely snooty.
Your the man well analysed and excellent conclusion, I’m with you on Toyota Pravda
I have a 2000 Prado 90, love it even at 378,000km
Andrew's reviews are awesome. The TFL and other TH-cam Warriors can learn a few things from him
Absolutely correct about the middle seat in the Prado, we’ve had a 2012 model since new and everyone that’s sat in that seat has hated it. Would not want to do a long trip in tat seat. Other than that it’s been a fantastic vehicle over the last 6 years(105k) and has only needed regular services.
I really enjoy your videos buddy! -North Carolina
Hi Andrew, would you be able to tell me what was the squealing noise comming from the jeep at 12:07 in this video. Thanks
You always honest and giving the best advice
If you have a Prado 90 series and haven't checked the lower ball joints in a while, do it before one of the front wheels come off. I know it happens because it happened to us and it has happened to many other people
We have a 2006 Prado 2.7L V6, & we drive it on road 99% of the time. It has a significant body roll when driving fast.
Hi I enjoyed the comparisons and they were very interesting. The one part that I did not get was why did you rate Nissan´s Pathfinder so badly........could you give some support to the statement?
As an owner of a 2007 Nissan Pathfinder, I am interested in hearing these reasons that downgraded it from the choice list.....
Another good report Andrew - I’m a Toyota owner now and despite the impressive off-road abilities of the Land Rover and Jeep their well-known poor long term reliability and build quality is a problem - in fact despite a strong Jeep campaign in Australia during the last year or so sales have dropped off quite significantly compared to Toyota for example - their service/customer culture is woeful and I would never buy something built in the USA, UK (India) or here in Australia. As far I’m concerned Toyota is the only off-road brand that will get you there and back with confidence. John in SA.
You love bashing the Disco 2, but do think about it this way; it ended up having a CDL, a ladder frame, solid axles, excellent clearance, excellent suspension travel and very acceptable on-road handling. It IS a better car than a Disco 1, the traction control with center lock is pretty good for it's time.
I test drove a Disco 5 and holy cow that is a nice car. Flip on all the off roady bits and raise the suspension to the highest setting and that thing would go anywhere.
I enjoyed that. I know you cant get them in the UK, (the new Y62) but I'd love to get your overview on the Nissan Patrol. Same as in the video, past to present. It's the one vehicle you never seem to have anything to do with. Thanks.
I know it's a discontinued model, but I would be curious as to your opinion of the Jeep Commander. We owned an '08 and absolutely loved it with its Quadradrive II. I've always wondered what a proper overlander would think.
hey andrew if you were given one choice between the 4th gen pajero and 4th gen prado, which one would you chose? Please note that I am a Pajero 4th gen owner
This was the best and honest review I ever saw about off roader. Thank you very much.
I really liked the Discovery 1, mine was the V8 Manual, I also owned The Grand Cherokee LTD and a Prado short wheel base, But I prefer the Pajero Mk2, Now I have a Shogun Sport / Challenger and it is even better than the Mk2 pajero, The Sport is more sure footed and On Road it feels more alive and it is better on fuel and still drives like a new Truck./ Car. And handles rough roads a lot better than the Mk2. The Shogun Sport is the best model they have made to date,
Bloody brilliant vid! Loved the ending and thought your review was pretty much spot on (even being a LR fan). I agree with eh Jeep QuadraTrac system, when I first saw it in action against my D2 in 2002 I was well impressed, just better and allowed more fine grained control when you got used to it. Cramped interior and marginally better engine (at the time, get better with development). So, G Wagon for you next then ??
Most D2's didn't have a locking transfer case so they really didn't have traction control despite what LR said.
Andrew great video as always . Also noticed in the description that you referred to the US spec Discovery as the LR5. They stopped that naming scheme, it’s just Discovery again.
And I think you need to drive a Discovery 2 again. Mine has a CDL and traction control, so it’s really good off road. Even better than my D1.
Lovely overview.
Do you have a review of Discovery 4 v Discovery 5??
I couldn’t bring myself to buy a D5 without the best feature, the split tailgate.
I have the last of D4 instead… until LR get it right!
That is absolutely fascinating. I had a Disco 1, 1994. Loved it to bits, until it rusted to nothing. Would I buy a new one, No. I, like you, find them extremely ugly and let's be honest, with all the electronics, would you trust it? Your take on the other vehicles, is equally interesting. All manufacturers seem to think that they know exactly what we require, whilst sitting in their offices sipping tea.
I'll stick to my old series 3 safari. At least I can fix it.
I would love to hear your take on vehicles like the Toyota Fortuner, Ford Everest, Isuzu M-UX, Mitsubishi Pajero Sport, etc and/or the double cab bakkies they are based on (Toyota Hilux, Ford Ranger, Isuzu D-Max, Mitsubishi Triton, etc) as I think globally these vehicles have become the entry point to 4x4 vehicles and off-roading for many people. The vehicles you reviewed in this video have become so expensive that many are simply not affordable to the everyman anymore. (Entry price of the Discovery 5 in South Africa is ±R1,6mil or ±AUS$134,000!)
These other vehicles are often also best sellers in countries like South Africa and Australia for this very reason - you generally get of lot of bang for your buck. As you well know, Saffas and Aussies love getting off the beaten track but can't always afford a dedicated vehicle for this purpose (like your lovely Troopy for example) and thus need a vehicle that can perform the daily school/work run and do the odd bit of weekend off road driving. And who knows? Maybe we can get another good old-fashioned Andrew rant about something in one of these vehicles that the rest of the journalists out there dare not say for fear of never being given a vehicle to review, ever again... ;)
Keep up the good work, I really enjoy the content! Thank you!
Another great video! Would you recommend any of this vehicles for long term overlanding in Africa? Prado maybe?
Great review. Being in the US I would like to see you test and review the different versions of the Toyota 4Runner... Especially the Traction Control/Crawl Control/Terrain select system...
Yup, I've been bogged down in sand to the frame rails and the 4Runner can easily dig itself out every time with CC turned on
I wish we could get the 4Runner here in Australia.... I follow Jason Koertge here on YT and love his 4Runner
4 runner is sadly only sold in North America.
I wish we had those in South Africa
I had no idea the 4runner was only sold in NA. Seems like it would sell like mad in other places, it's a great SUV.
Andrew you are saying that you can’t live with the Prado interior, probably is not the best interior but, how you can live with the 70 series interior? That interior is from a 30 old year car. How can you explain that?
I don't see that age has any bearing on it. Some interiors from cars made in the 60s' were the most interesting of all time. The Prado dash is far better in almost every respect but for the fact that it is deadly dull. The 70-series dash at least has character. (BTW This dash was first seen 12 years ago.)
4xoverland yes, maybe was seen 12 years ago but, that kind of interior was the ones that 80’s and 90’s car. The question is: is the Prado interior functional for you in the same way that the 70 series is functional for you?
PS. Thank you for your response. I’m watching your videos the whole weekend and I appreciate your content. I just bought a 2019 Toyota 4Runner and I can’t wait to travel just the way you do on your 70 series.
Regards.
My next car will be a Prado... but I wouldn’t get the GXL, I’ll get a VX (in New Zealand) for the money you get all those little things that just make it a nicer place to be, leather, heated/cooled seats sat nav and power seats. It’s no worse on the inside than my Outback!
here in the Philippines we call it "Pajero" not montero, but great video, i think the last real offroader pajero is the gen 2 in my opinion.
Excellent video! Really no lies, pure truth!
HI Andrew, I did enjoy it it is a great review.
Thanks mate.
From a USA perspective, most Jeeps that see dirt are the Wrangler, the discovery is generally known for horrible reliability due mostly to it's gasoline V8, but capable off road, the Prado is sold here as a Lexus, and therefore, expensive but capable off road. The Montero/Pajero has been unavailable for some time but the first and second generation has a following and they can be bought cheaply, again, no diesel, only gasoline powered V6 models which are good as long as you change the timing belt at recommended intervals. Me personally, I'm looking for a first generation Montero for simplicity and strength.
Why are all these traction control systems better than triple lockers? Would seem to me that spinning all wheels the same speed regardless is going to get you through anything.
Andrew thanks for your video very nice work, i have a question for you, i want to get a brand new 2020 Mitsubishi pajero short wheel base SWB, here in Bogotá Colombia where i live they offer it with a reliable 3.5 litre V6 Engine they say , i always loved the overall look of the car and have been told its a very good off roader, can you give me your opinión about it ? Is it good? How is the quality, and reliabilty? Thank you.
The overall boot space in Disco 4 is the reason we have gone back to 1, well actually 2, Disco 4s. His and hers. We sold our RR Sport Autobiography, which was awesome but with spectacularly poor boot space and did not have ..... the drop down tail gate!
I think the Discovery is light years ahead of the rest in all areas. Looks are a very personal and while I agree to a point but you simply cannot deny the Discovery is an awesome machine. I just wish it looked more like the Discovery 4.
By this video, you must go for the Jeep Grand Cherokee, V6 diesel. Best allround 4X4 on the market. The only criticism was lack of after market parts, well in most instances eg Trailhawk, you don't need to do a lot of mods. 4WD system perfect, ride height perfect with airlift, but you can put on a bullbar/winch, driving lights, larger tyres if you want to, roof rack, so what more do you want. Heaps of power, 3500kg tow rating and great fuel economy and at a good price.
Yep 100% agree
Long term reliability is questionable sadly.
Sorry, I'm confused!! Which one to buy???
Really nice video. I really want to see you making reviews or just talking about toyota 4runner, toyota fortuner sw4, Mitsubishi Pajero sport, ford Everest, isuzu mu-x, chevrolet trail blazer (Holden)... Very capable off road suv with body frame and platform 120. Really popular cars in south america.
Excellent video, thank you very much for sharing a piece of objective criteria. I like that the PAJERO could be an honest all around vehicle, specially because I bet there should be great deals on those last units before the go the way of the dinosaur. Greetings from Mexico!
Andrew , this is a great video. Thanks for taking all the time to create your great content!! ... @end ... and me!!
As Basil Brush would say after delivering a perfect coup de grace one-liner..."Boom Boom!!"
Have ordered a Prado 150 before it’s replaced. The dash is like a 70’s HiFi. Accidentally retro-cool.