Good seeing you helping trappers out back when I started all trappers we’re tight lipped and not willing to giving any tips plus no computers. Keep up the good work
It's a numbers game Dungeon Master. You have to catch 1,000 now instead of 100. And even then there's no real money in it. I'm just too dumb to do anything else.
Dale I just got some lures from ya before you left for your trip and I just want to say I have heard from alot of people who say you cant catch beaver without drowning and conibears and I knew that could not be the case because back in the day they didn't have drowning rods or conibears. Im trapping where the water isn't deep enough to drown them. You are the only one I've found on you tube so far that is teaching that you dont have to drown them to catch them. I'm learning alot from your videos and I wish I grew up next door to you because you are a wealth of trapping knowledge.
Long chains/cables are the key, if they have room to move around they'll find a spot they feel safe and wait, if they can't get to a safe/comfortable spot, they'll wring those front feet off. A back foot catch isn't going anywhere regardless
I don't care if he tells you that that's the way to do it that's not the way to do it you just said it yourself that this is the only guy saying that you can catch him by the front foot and you don't need to drown them and they'll still be there for you and he's not being honest with you it's like he's wanting to set you up for failure is what I believe because I've trapped my whole life and no beaver will not be sitting there waiting for you if you don't drown them if you catch them by the front foot next time you see a beaver or get a beaver caught take your hand grab the front foot and twist it and you'll see that you can snap a beaver's front foot off with one hand without hardly any effort at all so you tell me that it gets in a trap and it's not going to be jumping around and spinning and twisting and trying to get away yes they are they fight with all their power and they twist their front leg off very easily and you'll have a lot of front feet in your traps if you target the front foot if you don't drown them your best off drowning them and putting a weight like a window weight right on the Trap so you got to wait pulling the Trap down to so when you catch him he can't just sit extend it up to the top of the water he's constantly got a weight pulling him back down and he'll drown a lot quicker if you put a weight on the Trap itself I actually use an easy steak at the bank with a sliding lock on my trap on the cable and put a weight heavyweight on the drowning in and throw it out in the deep water and I have a weight on my trap too to constantly pull them down that's a foolproof beautiful technique and I catch a big beaver and they're dead within minutes
A drowned beavers a dead beaver and a dead Beaver can't get out of a trap but a live Beaver non-round did beaver will constantly try away get away out of the Trap
Thanks for the tip. I'm not much of a beaver trapper, but I do run into a few areas with them. I definitely will be trying to set out. Thanks for sharing this Dale ! 👍🏻
Hey Dale you may have mentioned it elsewhere but what is the advantage of not drowning the beaver (if you can). Also thanks for showing and explaining this set I have a spot this will work out great this winter post deer season
You don't spook the other beaver in the colony as bad by not drowning or conibearing them 284Winchester. Plus you have the perfect opportunity for multiple catches by having a live decoy on the bank. And lastly you can release nontarget species like otter after the season closes
anybody who doesnt watchyour videos is missing alot of info ive trapped since mid 60s thank you for all good info back in late 70s early 80s you would never seen this good job
So I have to drown where I am. Does it matter which direction the drowner is pointed? As in upstream or downstream? Wondering if beaver always turn and go with the current if they get caught or will a drowner going upstream work?
284Winchester give me a call or text me at 319-217-0655 and I can send you the list of what I offer that way. Thank you for watching and for your interest in Billingsley Brand Lures we appreciate you
Too many variables to answer that Dennis. You have to know your ground. Where you are in south Louisiana, I would suggest 2 inch Pogo stakes. You get a lot of moisture in February so the big washer should hold for you. It's just my thoughts. So far I've not been lucky enough to find any ground to to trap in south Louisiana but I keep looking for a crawfish farmer to let me in. Wish I could help you more.
No Bryce I'm not too concerned about it. As I've stated before it's all in the trap you use. Some are made for front and back foot catches both. Some are designed for back feet only. Thank you for watching
nice thing also about this set if beaver is drowned people never know trap is set there unbelievable even with no catch never know trap is there most thief proof set ive ever seen other than logs that extend out to deep water thanks
really question you only losing 1 in 100 ?for a front foot catch especial using closed jawed trap like the victor? and for your information a beaver never drowns he suffocates , check it out
You can question it all you like wonaegun or there's always an empty truck seat for you to ride along and witness it any time you want. Thank you for watching
And yes I'm well aware of the fact a beaver technically doesn't drown and dies of asphyxiation. But I'm well aware of the fact that we ALL say drowning rods drowning wires drowning cable Not one trapper I know calls the asphyxiation rods or wires or cables
The son of a professional trapper my dad started traveling in 1970 when he got out of Vietnam Vietnam and I am 50 years old now myself and I've been a professional Trapper most of my life and I've trapped hundreds and hundreds of beaver in my lifetime you do not Target a front foot catch without drowning them you're not holding them alive and not drowning them by the front foot and they're staying there every time there's no way I can grab a beavers front foot with my hand and twist it completely off with one hand and it snaps the front foot right off so I don't think you're being honest saying that you're holding Beaver by the front foot and you're not drowning them and they're staying there alive waiting for you to come get them why would you tell people that that's terrible advice and why would you try to catch a beaver by the front foot and not drowned it that's terrible advice and you're not being honest about holding them beaver buy the front foot and not drowning them and then being alive waiting for you to come back and get them you're losing a lot of beaver and you're catching a lot of front foots because a man can twist the Beavers foot off with one hand and snap it right off so I know a beaver and a trap I've seen them I know what it does I've got hundreds and hundreds of them and I've caught a lot of front feet too that's why I try to get the back foot and I always drowned them I don't set any sets that are not drowning sets that's terrible advice to teach people that it's like you're telling them how to do it wrong so that they lose a lot of beaver that's terrible terrible advice and you're not being honest if you're going to say that you don't lose any Beaver catching them by the front foot and not drowning them immediately
Jeremy there's always an open truck seat for you if you'd ever like to see it first hand. You can try to call me out all you want but I have the years , miles and numbers behind me as well. I'm not some Johnny come lately.
@@jeremyfrancoisthemaddtrapp7538 O gorman, Thorpe, me and every mountain man that almost made the beaver extinct used long chains. Id take Dale up on his offer you might learn something. . .
what a good set amazing what a guy can learn depth of trap and howfar back is how i wieghtbait sets under ice but that is very good thief proof set also trapped out of canoe in spring staked to bank only thing did put window
This is what happens when you teach at an expo Tennessee about 7 years ago I showed this application nice to see this guy made a pretty cool video and he's pretty close in the technique he's just missing apart must have been talking to his friends then that's what happens when you don't pay attention I didn't put any kind of patent on the set so it's okay for someone to share it but really not cool that he acts like he came up with it this was all me and I learned this from a guy 40 Years of beaver trapping before me
If you'll go back in history and study a bit you'll see where i put this set on a video in 2005.Billingsley brand trapping the fastest methods on earth. Still available at sterling fur and tool. Sorry to bust your bubble but you or i neither 1 are the originator of this set. Thanks for watching though I appreciate it
Please tell me at what point i even remotely said that i came up with this set? This set is shown in Johnny Thorpes camp line methods from the 60s!! This is what happens when folks don't take a history lesson now and then. They think they've come up with something new when infact all they've done is reinvent the wheel
No, it’s not “all good brother”. Don’t flap your yap if you don’t know what you’re talking about. I’ve never met Dale personally, but I hope some day I do. With all the bullshit advice on this forum he’s one of the few who actually is giving people tried and true advice that will actually help them. What are you doing? Find a tall rope, lay on your back, and see if you can piss up it 👍
Never too old to learn new sets. Definitely give this a try
Thats right Norman. Appreciate you watching
Thanks for this, having a hell of a time on a sandy wide slow dropoff river, will be setting a flurry of these tomorrow
They'll work for you. Thank you for watching
When you said current , I knew ! Good stuff Dale ! You are flat helping folks out !
Thanks Otter Cat. I sure hope i am helping some
Thanks for showing us this set. I was wondering how to set it and how deep. Now I know thanks to you . Keep up with all you doing.
Thanks @ Paul Martin. This set is very simple and very deadly in a current situation
@@billingsleybrandtrappinglu1531 yes it looks like it .
Great video Dale!! A lot of trappers out there don’t know about beaver approaching from the down stream side! Thanks again for a great video!
Thank you JutnJen Rasmussen. Yes its important to know the approach of an animal
Good seeing you helping trappers out back when I started all trappers we’re tight lipped and not willing to giving any tips plus no computers. Keep up the good work
Thank you Jay. I appreciate everyone that takes the time to watch and comment. I hope im helping 8n some small way
Back in your day the fur market was legitimate but nowadays it's simply a hobby that pays for itself except for the occasional guy like Billingsley
It's a numbers game Dungeon Master. You have to catch 1,000 now instead of 100. And even then there's no real money in it. I'm just too dumb to do anything else.
@@billingsleybrandtrappinglu1531 take care and good luck
@dungeonmaster6292 thank you. And same to you
Dale I just got some lures from ya before you left for your trip and I just want to say I have heard from alot of people who say you cant catch beaver without drowning and conibears and I knew that could not be the case because back in the day they didn't have drowning rods or conibears. Im trapping where the water isn't deep enough to drown them. You are the only one I've found on you tube so far that is teaching that you dont have to drown them to catch them. I'm learning alot from your videos and I wish I grew up next door to you because you are a wealth of trapping knowledge.
Thanks Loc Doc I truly appreciate it. I'm glad it's working for you too
Long chains/cables are the key, if they have room to move around they'll find a spot they feel safe and wait, if they can't get to a safe/comfortable spot, they'll wring those front feet off. A back foot catch isn't going anywhere regardless
Yes thats right Parker.
I don't care if he tells you that that's the way to do it that's not the way to do it you just said it yourself that this is the only guy saying that you can catch him by the front foot and you don't need to drown them and they'll still be there for you and he's not being honest with you it's like he's wanting to set you up for failure is what I believe because I've trapped my whole life and no beaver will not be sitting there waiting for you if you don't drown them if you catch them by the front foot next time you see a beaver or get a beaver caught take your hand grab the front foot and twist it and you'll see that you can snap a beaver's front foot off with one hand without hardly any effort at all so you tell me that it gets in a trap and it's not going to be jumping around and spinning and twisting and trying to get away yes they are they fight with all their power and they twist their front leg off very easily and you'll have a lot of front feet in your traps if you target the front foot if you don't drown them your best off drowning them and putting a weight like a window weight right on the Trap so you got to wait pulling the Trap down to so when you catch him he can't just sit extend it up to the top of the water he's constantly got a weight pulling him back down and he'll drown a lot quicker if you put a weight on the Trap itself I actually use an easy steak at the bank with a sliding lock on my trap on the cable and put a weight heavyweight on the drowning in and throw it out in the deep water and I have a weight on my trap too to constantly pull them down that's a foolproof beautiful technique and I catch a big beaver and they're dead within minutes
A drowned beavers a dead beaver and a dead Beaver can't get out of a trap but a live Beaver non-round did beaver will constantly try away get away out of the Trap
Thanks a lot dale I've been trapping for about 48 year's never seen that set,will have to try.
This set is deadly Lynn. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the tip. I'm not much of a beaver trapper, but I do run into a few areas with them. I definitely will be trying to set out. Thanks for sharing this Dale ! 👍🏻
You're welcome Chip. Thank you for watching this video I appreciate it
Hey Dale you may have mentioned it elsewhere but what is the advantage of not drowning the beaver (if you can). Also thanks for showing and explaining this set I have a spot this will work out great this winter post deer season
You don't spook the other beaver in the colony as bad by not drowning or conibearing them 284Winchester. Plus you have the perfect opportunity for multiple catches by having a live decoy on the bank. And lastly you can release nontarget species like otter after the season closes
@@billingsleybrandtrappinglu1531 gotcha. Thanks!!
You're welcome 284Winchester. I hope it helps some
I've caught many many many beaver. But I learned something new. Thank you sir.
You're welcome @ American Trapper. Thank you for watching this video
anybody who doesnt watchyour videos is missing alot of info ive trapped since mid 60s thank you for all good info back in late 70s early 80s you would never seen this good job
No you sure wouldn't have Steve. Thank you for the validation. And thanks again for watching
Great set can’t wait to try why would you want to deal with live beaver every set ? Thanks
Live Beaver do not tip off the rest of the colony Zippy like dead ones do
Great video Dale! I'll definitely be using this in the future. Thanks
You're welcome Justin Stiens. Thanks for watching this video I appreciate it
new trick for this old dog to try , i have not seen this one before , thanks for sharing .
You're welcome @ judith and dan davis. Thanks for watching this video i appreciate it
Once again Brother I am listening. I will stop learning when I am dead
John that's the day I'll quit myself is when I die. I appreciate you watching. Thank you
it looks like a great set. thanks, for sharing
The American thank you for watching also
Can't wait to use this next season thanks for sharing !!!
You're welcome Mark. Good luck and have fun with it. Thanks for watching
thanks for the set,,i'll surely try it this fall!!!
You're welcome Gary. Thanks for watching
Great idea. One more trick to throw at them when their buddies have been whacked by everything else. 👍
Yes @ Strained Chains thats right. Thanks for taking the time to watch this video
Once again a great video dale
Thank you Noah. I appreciate you
That is something! Thank you!!
You're welcome David. Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching
awesome set ! let's see some catches now on that set !
Come November @ Thunderstruck outfitter you sure will see lots of catches then
Great video Dale 👍
Thank you for watching this video
Great simple set! You’re making it too easy. Which one of your lures would you favor for this set?
Thanks Steve yea its nothing complicated. I like either my Cypress breaks or Iowa silver on this set. Both are curiosity lures
this video made my day, thank you
Stephen im glad you liked it. Thanks for watching it
100% new to this. What are using for the lure?
Carl you can use anyone of my beaver lures on this set. I personally like either my Iowa silver or Cypress Breaks.
So I have to drown where I am.
Does it matter which direction the drowner is pointed? As in upstream or downstream? Wondering if beaver always turn and go with the current if they get caught or will a drowner going upstream work?
Mike either put the drowner straight out or angle it down stream
Hey Dale how can I get a list of the lures you have available ?
284Winchester give me a call or text me at 319-217-0655 and I can send you the list of what I offer that way. Thank you for watching and for your interest in Billingsley Brand Lures we appreciate you
any adverse effects to combining a drowning rod in this set? I need to hide it from a guy who sets 2 traps and checks 12.
No Steven you can use a drowning rod if you prefer to. Thank you for watching
Lmao sets 2 and checks 12. I'm gonna get some good use out of that line.
Good to know,keep up the good videos
I'll sure try frankroy9423. Thanks for watching
Great video
Thank you for watching Nature's wild playground
@@billingsleybrandtrappinglu1531 your welcome
Hey Dale thanks for the info
You're very welcome John. Thank you for watching too
Just one question
HOW WOULD YOU ANCHOR THE TRAP
THE BEST WAY??? THATS THE ONLY THING IM WORRIED ABOIT THIS SEASON
Too many variables to answer that Dennis. You have to know your ground. Where you are in south Louisiana, I would suggest 2 inch Pogo stakes. You get a lot of moisture in February so the big washer should hold for you. It's just my thoughts. So far I've not been lucky enough to find any ground to to trap in south Louisiana but I keep looking for a crawfish farmer to let me in. Wish I could help you more.
great job thanks
Thanks for watching Melvin. I appreciate it
I’ll give this a try. I never caught a Beaver and I’m 78 years old. My question is if you don’t drown them, how do you dispatch them.?
I just put a 22 pill in their head Gary. Thank you for watching and good luck
Awesome set
It's really simple and deadly Ed. Thanks for watching
Thanks Dale good idea
No problem PA Trapping. Thanks for watching
Do you use offsets for front foot catches?
You can use either one you prefer Wen. I've caught and held A LOT of beaver in both. They both work fine
I believe it and going to try it.
It'll work for you
how do you stake your land end? I have lots of sand.
I use 2 inch Pogo stakes in sand. If I feel like 1 won't hold I put down 2 like cross staking a coyote set Jesse. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching
Are you worried about entanglement, Up on the bank when using a long chain?
No Bryce I'm not too concerned about it. As I've stated before it's all in the trap you use. Some are made for front and back foot catches both. Some are designed for back feet only. Thank you for watching
nice thing also about this set if beaver is drowned people never know trap is set there unbelievable even with no catch never know trap is there most thief proof set ive ever seen other than logs that extend out to deep water thanks
You're welcome Steve. Good luck and tight chains
What is your reasoning for keeping them alive?
Dead beaver spook the others in a colony. Plus I can release nontarget otters this way too Shane
really question you only losing 1 in 100 ?for a front foot catch especial using closed jawed trap like the victor? and for your information a beaver never drowns he suffocates , check it out
You can question it all you like wonaegun or there's always an empty truck seat for you to ride along and witness it any time you want. Thank you for watching
And yes I'm well aware of the fact a beaver technically doesn't drown and dies of asphyxiation. But I'm well aware of the fact that we ALL say drowning rods drowning wires drowning cable
Not one trapper I know calls the asphyxiation rods or wires or cables
The son of a professional trapper my dad started traveling in 1970 when he got out of Vietnam Vietnam and I am 50 years old now myself and I've been a professional Trapper most of my life and I've trapped hundreds and hundreds of beaver in my lifetime you do not Target a front foot catch without drowning them you're not holding them alive and not drowning them by the front foot and they're staying there every time there's no way I can grab a beavers front foot with my hand and twist it completely off with one hand and it snaps the front foot right off so I don't think you're being honest saying that you're holding Beaver by the front foot and you're not drowning them and they're staying there alive waiting for you to come get them why would you tell people that that's terrible advice and why would you try to catch a beaver by the front foot and not drowned it that's terrible advice and you're not being honest about holding them beaver buy the front foot and not drowning them and then being alive waiting for you to come back and get them you're losing a lot of beaver and you're catching a lot of front foots because a man can twist the Beavers foot off with one hand and snap it right off so I know a beaver and a trap I've seen them I know what it does I've got hundreds and hundreds of them and I've caught a lot of front feet too that's why I try to get the back foot and I always drowned them I don't set any sets that are not drowning sets that's terrible advice to teach people that it's like you're telling them how to do it wrong so that they lose a lot of beaver that's terrible terrible advice and you're not being honest if you're going to say that you don't lose any Beaver catching them by the front foot and not drowning them immediately
Jeremy there's always an open truck seat for you if you'd ever like to see it first hand. You can try to call me out all you want but I have the years , miles and numbers behind me as well. I'm not some Johnny come lately.
@@jeremyfrancoisthemaddtrapp7538 O gorman, Thorpe, me and every mountain man that almost made the beaver extinct used long chains. Id take Dale up on his offer you might learn something. . .
what a good set amazing what a guy can learn depth of trap and howfar back is how i wieghtbait sets under ice but that is very good thief proof set also trapped out of canoe in spring staked to bank only thing did put window
Thank you Steve. And thanks for watching i sure appreciate it
i put window wieght about ft out from trap was spring time decent current stilla tremudous idea thanks
Yea a guy can run a weight or slide rod or wire if you like. Doesn't hurt a thing
Excellent set! Except no TS 85’s here in the communist state. 😂
Yea i know Josh. But you've still got the #5 and the no b.s available to you
This is what happens when you teach at an expo Tennessee about 7 years ago I showed this application nice to see this guy made a pretty cool video and he's pretty close in the technique he's just missing apart must have been talking to his friends then that's what happens when you don't pay attention I didn't put any kind of patent on the set so it's okay for someone to share it but really not cool that he acts like he came up with it this was all me and I learned this from a guy 40 Years of beaver trapping before me
If you'll go back in history and study a bit you'll see where i put this set on a video in 2005.Billingsley brand trapping the fastest methods on earth. Still available at sterling fur and tool. Sorry to bust your bubble but you or i neither 1 are the originator of this set. Thanks for watching though I appreciate it
Please tell me at what point i even remotely said that i came up with this set? This set is shown in Johnny Thorpes camp line methods from the 60s!! This is what happens when folks don't take a history lesson now and then. They think they've come up with something new when infact all they've done is reinvent the wheel
@@billingsleybrandtrappinglu1531 all good brother .
No, it’s not “all good brother”. Don’t flap your yap if you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I’ve never met Dale personally, but I hope some day I do. With all the bullshit advice on this forum he’s one of the few who actually is giving people tried and true advice that will actually help them. What are you doing? Find a tall rope, lay on your back, and see if you can piss up it 👍
@@strainedchains3389 I teach NWCO s so ya I'm in the know.