@@MiSTeRJoKe96 more like 1200... He played disgusting chess and it was readily apparent... Not even a 1600 would play such stupid queen moves... In succession too!!
@@jonbbbb he just makes the bot play the moves out without any interaction of his. its even more boring than cheating and playing the moves out yourself.
@@paradox5556 well you would have to hard code a script into the console or something...much more impressive to know how to do that than to play bullet well by hand
yes, it looks like he does on more than one occasion figure that out, but still he maintains very calm composure and very respectful nevertheless, which is quite amazing (I'd probably be much more frustrated, I had a player cheat against me once in blitz, we were both fairly low rated but all of the sudden I felt his moves were incredible. I felt so incredibly frustrated, I turned on an engine for a few moves, thinking I'll resign if I end up proving myself wrong and demolishing the "poor" soul. Turns out my computer engine was not fast and good enough for him! I was still being beaten (by a 1100 or maybe 1300 or so; I wasn't more than 1500 maybe)
@@miodragcristianiovanov229 oof so you cheated? That was when you really lost. If its no fun, quit and check the game afterwards or you are not better than those useless bots.
@@paulgoogol2652 No, you're totally right - did a few moves, then realized what was happening and I was losing anyway even with engine (and this was just a regular player with history of plenty of bad loses), so it turned into a stupid experiment to see how silly it can get... But this was my point - I just got so frustrated (and didn't know much then) - Eric seems to keep it cool so easily although he likely knows what's going on. I think that Ra6 move would have made any top player envious... :)
So in case anyone's keeping count, around 5:55 he turns off the engine -- there's a 10 second delay in what had been lighting fast moves up until then. And proceeds to lose a massively winning position😂
Yup I remember I saw a video like 8 years ago of someone showing how those auto bots played. Always wonder if I play against those online. Sometimes people play a horribly losing opening but play the rest of the game like Jesus. Never know what you get online. Much rarer to encounter these things in 1 minute but still possible
Well, I've made this analogy to cheaters and I think it works perfectly here. Imagine you're talking to some dude pretending to be a Chemist. Let's assume you're asking a bunch of questions that a layman couldn't answer, like the physical properties of some organic compound. Now, let's say the fake Chemist is googling all his answers. The guy is still incredibly dumb, but he has access to a virtually infinite amount of information at his finger tips. So he's gonna say some dumb shit, in spite of also saying some profound shit. So, cheaters are basically stupid geniuses, or in this instance, 1800 and 3600.
Just so you know, you popped up on my reccomended in the first time in months, i've been subscribed i don't know how long, but you finally got your deserved spot on top of my reccomended.
I think it's actually stoppable, but then you're so so lost because he has a pawn on the 7th, he was just showing what happens if you try to take the pawn. You probably have to play Na8 which is super ugly and then lose painfully
Aman is the angel on Eric's left shoulder and this guy is the little devil on his right shoulder. Pretty cool to see Eric manifest this guy from his imagination.......
It completely paralyzes black. The threat of running the h pawn to h6 looks slow but probably is going to force Black to play Qd8 and Rc6, which lets white grab the e pawn.
... and Nd7 defends the e pawn while attacking the queen but then leads into Qe7, which becomes even more safe while maintaining the paralysis. Black doesn't want to trade but gets kinda forced to it so he can get active again. In the end, its always incredible if multiple of your pieces cant work well because of one single opponent piece.
You would think that that move doesn't lead to much and would get kicked away immediately, but it leads to a queen trade. Chessbrah doesn't want to trade because he's down material already. If you just leave the queen where it is on e7, bishop c4 and then f4 seem very strong for white, while black's pieces are cramped. It was shocking bc I thought black's queen was just chillin but instead it is now gone for a losing endgame.
A queen trade when you have sacrificed an exchange (rook for horse or bishop) usually means you are worse in the end game especially after that queen trade further suffocated blacks position forcing backward moves.
For anyone wondering how he cheats so fast. He has a programme bot installed to play and he turns it on and off to be realistic. Hence why he kept hanging his Queen in those games. You get a clue from the consistency of the move times. It's very rare to play against this type of cheater, especially in Bullet so don't be paranoid in your games others are doing it.
@@laidbackmedia Not really, those accounts rarely survive mor than a day and all rating points are refunded. This is nothing new, this has been around for decades now.
I love how there was a delay between when the move was played and when they realized just how powerful the move really is. Further emphasizing just how impossible it would be to actually find that move in that amount of time, THATS STOCKFISH
Yes, that rook A6 move found this quickly. I had to pause the video and double check the position to understand how good that was. It's very hard to see a move like that this quickly. I definitely think someone can spot this move if he thinks about it for a little bit but it's not obvious to just throw your rook right where it can be taken as a decoy. Then, as shown, it's just over. If you don't take the rook and let him queen. You get mated quickly anyway.
Excuse my naivety - I always assumed that bullet was too fast for cheaters to use engines, how is this person bypassing having to enter moves into an engine??
You definitely wouldn’t be able to do the classic two computer setup, so you’re right in that regard! But most likely this player has an engine immediately drawing arrows on the board for them or having a button to toggle stockfish to immediately take over the game with a search duration time of like 1 second. Either way, you’d have to download/create software that would be running on the same machine
I'm confused how he could cheat with such speedy play. He's so fast for referencing a computer, but maybe he has some automated system that updates quickly, idk.
I'm wondering the same thing. How would they have time to punch moves into an engine in bullet? Even if someone was there doing it on another machine how so fast? Anyone know?
@@deeeleevee Either bot, or software/code that overlays the engine moves. Hans clearly used something similar if you watch his videos when he cheated. It wouldn't let him make bad moves. Multiple times he tried to make moves and the piece just didn't move.
Obviously not himself, he has a bot put in whatever the engine finds to be the best move. Probably at a lower depth like 16-20 depending on how good his computer is
They have a toggle system where they can play manually or it will automatically play top engine move for them, the site hs really good 3rd party detection which is why they got banned so fast
The engine moves are capped at a time limit - it looks for the best move up to X milliseconds and then plays it. That might not be the best overall move, but the best it could compute in that timeframe. Also most opening moves are done via table lookups instead of actually calculating, as that is faster and the positions are already well (pre-)calculated - the actual time consuming calculations only take place later in the game which is when they'll either play worse moves or take longer. The engines can also calculate the most likely continuations whilst its the opponents time to move, so that they are prepared when its their turn. Bullet has just as many cheaters as other time formats, trust me. It's a bummer really, because bullet was a safe haven from cheaters up until a few years ago, when online chess really took off... :(
Imagine playing that good against a cheater
cheater was toggling his cheating on and off because he thinks that's smart.
@@Dancindazed sadly when he tried to disconnect his cheating software he revealed his 1600 bullet strenght blundering the queen 2 times in 3 moves lol
@@MiSTeRJoKe96 he wishes he played like 1600
@@Dancindazed yeah u right 😂
@@MiSTeRJoKe96 more like 1200... He played disgusting chess and it was readily apparent... Not even a 1600 would play such stupid queen moves... In succession too!!
That's a lot of vibrations per minute if he's cheating in bullet
Yeah honestly how is this possible? I thought bullet would be pretty much immune to cheating just due to time constraints.
@@jonbbbb he just makes the bot play the moves out without any interaction of his. its even more boring than cheating and playing the moves out yourself.
He's gay and wins chess on the side.
@@paradox5556 you say that from experience
@@paradox5556 well you would have to hard code a script into the console or something...much more impressive to know how to do that than to play bullet well by hand
Seeing Eric and Canty hanging out together makes me happy. Two of my favorite players. We in here!!
The guest list in Toronto is off the charts this week.
seriously they kill it together
Yeah man, top lads. Love James' energy, really cool guy
Senmida
Eric knew from the start that his opponent was cheating 😂
yes, it looks like he does on more than one occasion figure that out, but still he maintains very calm composure and very respectful nevertheless, which is quite amazing (I'd probably be much more frustrated, I had a player cheat against me once in blitz, we were both fairly low rated but all of the sudden I felt his moves were incredible. I felt so incredibly frustrated, I turned on an engine for a few moves, thinking I'll resign if I end up proving myself wrong and demolishing the "poor" soul. Turns out my computer engine was not fast and good enough for him! I was still being beaten (by a 1100 or maybe 1300 or so; I wasn't more than 1500 maybe)
@@miodragcristianiovanov229 oof so you cheated? That was when you really lost. If its no fun, quit and check the game afterwards or you are not better than those useless bots.
@@paulgoogol2652 No, you're totally right - did a few moves, then realized what was happening and I was losing anyway even with engine (and this was just a regular player with history of plenty of bad loses), so it turned into a stupid experiment to see how silly it can get... But this was my point - I just got so frustrated (and didn't know much then) - Eric seems to keep it cool so easily although he likely knows what's going on. I think that Ra6 move would have made any top player envious... :)
It was very obvious in the first game, the rhythm of moves, etc.
So you thought you were being cheated on and your solution was to cheat back? No balls.
Canty has great energy lmao
I need to be more like him and have been slacking lately
@@frequensea9434 I like your willingness to improve
The best!
@@frequensea9434 nah keep that energy in your head
Great Energy with Chess Brah and Canty... I just don't care so much when they drink but that is me.
This was 10/10 content. The Eric + Canty combo is so much fun.
I hope we get more of it! And some Aman there too. That’d be sick
IDK who the other guy is, but his energy is 10/10
James Canty III. He's an FM who works for chesscom. Entertaining guy, he has a yt channel too
Oh I thought it was Wanda Sykes
@@oishiine6781 he's gotta be close to an IM especially after his performance in the IM not a GM tournament
@David Davesby It is James Canty. I have watched him briefly on Twitch.
@@Jayhawk92unfortunately he's not even close to IM :/
That switch from better than Eric to worse than me is insane.
So in case anyone's keeping count, around 5:55 he turns off the engine -- there's a 10 second delay in what had been lighting fast moves up until then. And proceeds to lose a massively winning position😂
It might also be that something went wrong in the automation and he had to 'take over'. The end result is hilarious.
@@andydecoy1138 No that does not happen. He just played himself and since he is at best 1100 he got humiliated.
@@Jartran72 That is exactly what happened actually. Those bullet bots you can find on different cheating forums often break and you have to take over.
Yup I remember I saw a video like 8 years ago of someone showing how those auto bots played. Always wonder if I play against those online. Sometimes people play a horribly losing opening but play the rest of the game like Jesus. Never know what you get online. Much rarer to encounter these things in 1 minute but still possible
Man that guy was such an Alpha I mean he allowed zero counter play, what a tough opponent
Hahaha I see what you did there
Except when human error hung multiple queens :( Poor engines are always held back by stupid humans
Such an AlphaZero more like
lol he was stocking fish while playing
Eric was definitely dealing with some big fish there
Cheating online is now called the Hans Gambit.
😂😂
I absolutely love this and I hope it sticks!
Canty became one of my favorites. My 1 year old and I really enjoy his recaps. Especially the engine vs engine ones
"Wesley So wasn't looking at that!" 💀💀💀
We needed both of these guys commentating on the Magnus vs Hans game :)
love how hyped canty and eric are lol
Canty: Get him off the board. He's weird 😂
Eric: "This guy is strong"
Guy: "I'm literally Vibing rn" *buzzz*
lol this meme is great
Big chief + big vibes = chessbruh
Interesting how the opponent's play is either 1800 or 3600
Well, I've made this analogy to cheaters and I think it works perfectly here.
Imagine you're talking to some dude pretending to be a Chemist. Let's assume you're asking a bunch of questions that a layman couldn't answer, like the physical properties of some organic compound.
Now, let's say the fake Chemist is googling all his answers. The guy is still incredibly dumb, but he has access to a virtually infinite amount of information at his finger tips. So he's gonna say some dumb shit, in spite of also saying some profound shit.
So, cheaters are basically stupid geniuses, or in this instance, 1800 and 3600.
1800? dude played like a fucking 400 at times lmao
1800s don't hang their queens twice within like 5seconds. Dude's probably rated 1100 or lower
7:49 1800
If anything he's playing at room temperature iq but it changes between Kelvin Fahrenheit and Celsius
i feel like id play better against eric but not that much better as an 1800
Just so you know, you popped up on my reccomended in the first time in months, i've been subscribed i don't know how long, but you finally got your deserved spot on top of my reccomended.
I love how they both laugh hysterically as they discover the horror of the looming and unstoppable twin piston rook mate from Ra6 13:00
I think it's actually stoppable, but then you're so so lost because he has a pawn on the 7th, he was just showing what happens if you try to take the pawn. You probably have to play Na8 which is super ugly and then lose painfully
@@Me-uv6kc yes thats correct, but i was referring to eric showing him the line of ...kb7
funny video though 😄
12:48 Ra6
All the chess masters in the house: WTF 😳 😳
I love how the energy dies when Eric gets crushed....
There is cheating in bullet now? Along with the 12 grandmasters banned this has been a rough year for chess. Hopefully less cheating in 2023
Not gonna lie Eric and Canty make a great duo streaming team.
The reaction right after the Rook move was priceless :'D
"I respect it, thats a big find." 🤣
Aman is the angel on Eric's left shoulder and this guy is the little devil on his right shoulder. Pretty cool to see Eric manifest this guy from his imagination.......
“That way sir is the door” 😂
always good feeling when cheater gets caught
"call security" 💀
Ra6 is just savage, the bot couldve won many other ways but chose to do it the merciless way
I don’t understand the QF6 move that Eric and Canty were so impressed by at 11:44
It completely paralyzes black. The threat of running the h pawn to h6 looks slow but probably is going to force Black to play Qd8 and Rc6, which lets white grab the e pawn.
... and Nd7 defends the e pawn while attacking the queen but then leads into Qe7, which becomes even more safe while maintaining the paralysis. Black doesn't want to trade but gets kinda forced to it so he can get active again.
In the end, its always incredible if multiple of your pieces cant work well because of one single opponent piece.
You would think that that move doesn't lead to much and would get kicked away immediately, but it leads to a queen trade. Chessbrah doesn't want to trade because he's down material already. If you just leave the queen where it is on e7, bishop c4 and then f4 seem very strong for white, while black's pieces are cramped. It was shocking bc I thought black's queen was just chillin but instead it is now gone for a losing endgame.
A queen trade when you have sacrificed an exchange (rook for horse or bishop) usually means you are worse in the end game especially after that queen trade further suffocated blacks position forcing backward moves.
The move was more hyped up than it’s worth to be honest. It wasn’t that impressive
For anyone wondering how he cheats so fast. He has a programme bot installed to play and he turns it on and off to be realistic. Hence why he kept hanging his Queen in those games. You get a clue from the consistency of the move times. It's very rare to play against this type of cheater, especially in Bullet so don't be paranoid in your games others are doing it.
The implications of what you are saying destroy online chess
@@laidbackmedia Not really, those accounts rarely survive mor than a day and all rating points are refunded. This is nothing new, this has been around for decades now.
I love me some James Canty. He's the life of the party no matter where he is.
Canty celebrating eric loosing that game tho🤣🤣
I love how there was a delay between when the move was played and when they realized just how powerful the move really is. Further emphasizing just how impossible it would be to actually find that move in that amount of time, THATS STOCKFISH
Yes, that rook A6 move found this quickly. I had to pause the video and double check the position to understand how good that was. It's very hard to see a move like that this quickly. I definitely think someone can spot this move if he thinks about it for a little bit but it's not obvious to just throw your rook right where it can be taken as a decoy.
Then, as shown, it's just over. If you don't take the rook and let him queen. You get mated quickly anyway.
Na8 stops it, but it's... very ugly and you'll lose painfully
@@Me-uv6kc STops is maybe too definitive. Maybe pauses is the right word. After all it is just the decoy.
Excuse my naivety - I always assumed that bullet was too fast for cheaters to use engines, how is this person bypassing having to enter moves into an engine??
You definitely wouldn’t be able to do the classic two computer setup, so you’re right in that regard! But most likely this player has an engine immediately drawing arrows on the board for them or having a button to toggle stockfish to immediately take over the game with a search duration time of like 1 second.
Either way, you’d have to download/create software that would be running on the same machine
It all depends about the depth of calculation of the engine i guess, the cpu time that the engine is allowed to use before making his move...
some softwares can indicate with arrows on your board so u just play wherever it suggests. like when youre using an engine
His beads vibrate extra fast.
Sorry, I couldn't help myself. 😂🙏
Nerds being dweebs.
Victims of the Hans Gambit should get extra points back for "emotional damage"
First game 🥶 that's definitely some 3800 lvl. No way 2600 could play so impressive, and to see that mate in 4...
Especially in a bullet game. Obvious cheating
Hans with his anal beads thinks otherwise
He played that rook move instantly...
that first game is why i always take knights asap
Damn, FM Canty + Chessbrahs FTW!
FM
Ra6 was almost at the same level as Re1 from Pooja
Will the rapper lookin dude be a permanent addition to the channel? I like his vibe
Who? I see two chess players. Don't support these guys
The rapper looking dude? You mean the one stood behind the IT guy?
Yeah every rapper I’ve seen has a chess shirt on
Yeah Eric's gonna be here full time going forward
But fr tho wtf makes u say "rapper lookin dude"????
this was surprisingly wholesome
Canty is such a bro, would like to see him in more content
He's such a bro that he's a certified brah
I always heard pros saying you can't cheat in bullet, it's too fast. Apparently you can. No online chess is cheat free.
He has that Hans 100% accuracy game toggle. the manbrator 6000
"That was two nuts" -GM, James Canty
I looooove Canty and but with Eric? Such a dope combo. Much love yall
"Get security bro" lolol 😂
Who knew canty was so ripped lol
Eric, you are SUPPER strong against Stockfish. Respect man xxx
Canti is that wingman you want.
Im gonna start yelling Rook a6 when I think someone is cheating 😂😂
Your hype man is very understated.
How do we have time to input moves in an engine in hyper bullet?
Love the Eric and Canty games. Both are phenominal chess players.
I actually like watching GMs play bots, so they know how the rest of us feel lol
How do you cheat on a one minute game
big up Canty
It's almost impressive how good that guy is at cheating.
Engine finds it right away but that’s not a human move in bullet chess. No way
How is it impressive? He just paid for an extension probably and pressing buttons that instantly play engine moves
Or the extension draws arrows for the first n moves, he just needs to follow the arrows
I'm confused how he could cheat with such speedy play. He's so fast for referencing a computer, but maybe he has some automated system that updates quickly, idk.
There are programs that do this. I won't say names or anything just in case some cheater reads this comment
@@BlitzMaul makes sense
I think python program can do it
Brah Canty always hyped up . Bigups
What you can cheat in bullet? But it’s only a minute.
Having Canty there to see it Live is pure jokes 🤣🤣
Rook A6 was disgusting because you couldn’t ignore it. Pure engine energy
heres the thing though.... you're playing bullet
Chess speaks for itself
Gotta have friends like Canty
I think we all knew from the first game that it was an engine
Hans Is Proud
Need the “THATS NOT A MOVE” from canty
How does someone cheat in bullet?
How does the cheater do it so fast?
I'm wondering the same thing. How would they have time to punch moves into an engine in bullet? Even if someone was there doing it on another machine how so fast? Anyone know?
A bot that plays the game for you
@@deeeleevee
Either bot, or software/code that overlays the engine moves. Hans clearly used something similar if you watch his videos when he cheated. It wouldn't let him make bad moves. Multiple times he tried to make moves and the piece just didn't move.
You couldn't even get him a chair?
I fucking love the chemistry canty and Eric have!!!!!
11:47 bishop a6 Pawan takes queen takes for 3 passers was superb idea…But again he cheated , the logic was awesome
He playing mechanically 😂
how many accounts will it take?? hans got an addiction
How does one cheat during bullet chess?
Canty is a top-tier hypeman.
Wesley So wasn't looking at that!
Eric sounds so Canadian in this video
How do people like that play the game and input each players' move into an engine in order to cheat? He was very fast.
Obviously not himself, he has a bot put in whatever the engine finds to be the best move. Probably at a lower depth like 16-20 depending on how good his computer is
Seems like Hikaru and XQC is playing from the same account.
How can they cheat so quickly in bullet?
They have a toggle system where they can play manually or it will automatically play top engine move for them, the site hs really good 3rd party detection which is why they got banned so fast
The engine moves are capped at a time limit - it looks for the best move up to X milliseconds and then plays it. That might not be the best overall move, but the best it could compute in that timeframe. Also most opening moves are done via table lookups instead of actually calculating, as that is faster and the positions are already well (pre-)calculated - the actual time consuming calculations only take place later in the game which is when they'll either play worse moves or take longer. The engines can also calculate the most likely continuations whilst its the opponents time to move, so that they are prepared when its their turn. Bullet has just as many cheaters as other time formats, trust me.
It's a bummer really, because bullet was a safe haven from cheaters up until a few years ago, when online chess really took off... :(
@@ibmicroapple9142 All Online Gaming is riddled with cancerous CHEATS. They are scum
GET EM OFF THE BOARD! lmao
LMAO Ra6 "Wesley So wasn't looking at that"
Why do people even cheat... It doesn't make sense
why not when the cheating tools are 'right there'.. in the end it's a online F2P game :)
Eric! Nice you are hanging out with Canty!!!
I just wonder, how do you even cheat with 60s on the time.
With third party software?
because there ain't no time to check on engine.
Your hype man in this video is HILARIOUS. 😅😅😅
no title past 2500 is just abit sus to begin with
GET HIM OFF THE BOOOAARDD!!
Rook a6 in 1 second :D
Move that looks impossible)
How is he able to play so fast.. nice setup, what can we say
I was more impressed by a rook' checkmate. 'free pawns? push my pawns? no! There's mate in 4' - incredibly coldblooded play 🥶
I am chess noob.
Can't you just take the rook with the horse?
@@Pfillep then pawn will queen
@@bobjoe8182
Ohhhh. Thanks for that. Totally didnt see it.
i dont understand why in the continuation Eric needs to take on a7? he can either go to a8 or c8, and Nxa8 if queens
How’s it possible to multitask in a minute, I don’t think he’s a cheater
An actual GM and a fake GM catch a cheater
People who are good at chess - in the moments after 6:45, with which move does white actually hang the queen?
Im only 2100 on lc and I'm tired asf so good chance I missed sth but I think if he plays kc2 he doesn't hang the queen so it's kb2