I'm not sure he thought he was cheating until he couldn't convert that first end game. Definitely was suspicious though after than bishop didn't get snapped off.
Well, why not? If he has the bot set up so that the bot doesn't play for him, but the cheater makes moves himself based on the bot showing him some of the best moves on the board, then he doesn't have to make it to the end of the game.
playing obvious cheaters is a freeroll. especially when you're at the level that you can score some wins. anything you lose will get refunded and you can still gain points.
Because cheater content is the most popular chess content. GMs vs engines, especially not knowing is so interesting to watch. THis on was pretty tame and boring to be honest. Some other ones were really cool
It looks quite strong honestly. When he won his light squared bishop. The Knight and the king couldn't really get attacked. Seems like a plan someone could come up with over 30min. Not 5 seconds or something
Imagine being able to play that easily vs engine in 3 min game... I was thinking about trading 'bad' dark squared bishop too in second game. Gg, Aman. Great games
Pretty awesome. It's why cheaters have a hard time crossing into the very upper 2000s in blitz. Aside from them getting banned before they make it that far, they simply can't get a crushing position in time and just get flagged But also, as someone who has worked with Stockfish developing software (not for Stockfish, I just used the engine in my application) I think Stockfish in blitz is also quite weak relatively, as it doesn't have time to ponder a move and get a good grasp of the position and deep lines, so it just plays shallow moves that hold the position. The Stockfish developer said that Stockfish has the ability to evaluate a position on par with a Grandmaster (the evaluation function is simply a neural network trained on a bunch of positions which is precisely how human brains learn chess), so it's not overly superhuman on that front. It's superhuman with regards to brute force calculation of billions of positions per game which is more positions than a Grandmaster will see in their lifetime, and it doesn't get much of a chance to do that in blitz so the playing field is significantly more level (perhaps unless the cheater has a top of the line CPU and allocated max resources to Stockfish)
@@TheBlueSkateboard Advanced cheaters that are not getting banned can win whole game without losing more than 15 secounds on the clock. The most cheaters are actually at bullet because you can set your rating on lower accuracy and still outplay people on time without raising any red flags if done right. This whole ,,cheaters are slow'' is relict of the past generally.
@@Saltywengiell I do not think I have seen a single cheater that can beat Aman everytime, that was more what I was getting at, even the best will lose to a GM. Unless it's a bot cheater. Then GMs are doomed unless stockfish at those speeds even on a good computer isn't that strong. That, I do not know.
@@TheBlueSkateboard Compared to stockfish, even on lower accuracies GMS have absolutely 0 chances even magnus. If aman plays tilted tuesdays im sure he was playing against non-obvious cheaters. Also remember that if someone is a cheater that is tilted player,all they need it a couple of accurate moves from the engine to beat anyone.
Thank you for your submission to our database, GM Hambleton. My team of experts and statisticians are cross-referencing the software used in this account to the algorithm Hikaru uses to generate his pineapple-themed shirts to see if there is any sort of correlation. Once we get to the bottom of this, I will report any findings. Sincerely, Big Vlad
Man i sometimes feel same way in my rated games. I don’t know if cheaters exist in my rating or it’s my ego protecting me from the loss. Sometimes I find myself playing flawlessly and my opponent keeps on making strong moves and keeping the position closed forcing me to make a mistake. Is that the vibe you get from suspects ? I’m actually trying to learn from my losses, but some games that feels closed like that and baited into “bad” moves are demotivating and tilting.
Cheaters exist in all ratings, it doesn't mean the player you faced was a cheater. If you suspect someone is cheating try a rematch using a defensive strategy like the hippo, bots arent very good at cracking open closed positions and if you just keep shuffling your pieces until your opponent starts running out of time and starts playing like a 700 you'll know you were against a cheater.
I am barely a 1000 on my peak performance. I can work myself back to 1200 with practice. I just need to get my end game and tactics better and stop choking on my advantages. I tend to get nervous and thro games with +3-5 even +8 games.@@katieblue9947
regarding the hippo i need to look into it. I usually play taimanov both sides and as black vs D4 I am trying to learn something easy to replicate like taimanov.@@katieblue9947
@@katieblue9947interesting that engines struggle. I also just make waiting moves until that lame setup is finished and the other commits the king somewhere. I played it myself and its fun to play but super lame to go against. But most people that play that are not very good. At all.
at 3:20 dont you have Nf3+ to pick up the pawn on d4 after bishop and queen are traded off? And if Bxd4 exd4 then you move the knight and youre in time to defend e6? Bxd4 exd4, Nd7 ???, Rae8 ???, Rf6 ???, Nf8/Nc5. Of course you'll probably lose a pawn back but that seems like an easier position to play.
This time control of 3/0 evolved about two decades ago as one that makes it troublesome to cheat when online; prior to that, speed chess was mostly 5 minutes per game. - j q t -
We were playing 2/0, 3/0, and 5/0 over the board 25-30 years ago when I started. No one was thinking about chess engines in that context. They were all just different vibes. Occasionally we would play 1/0, but no one really took that seriously.
Obviously he didn't have time to get the next move from the computer in a time crunch. Or it was the 1st choice from the computer and not the best move. This also happens to good players who make it to the end game, but can't make accurate moves as the clock is winding down. They can't keep up and eventually blunder.
So where in the video does he teach the cheater the lesson?? I admittedly skipped around, but by the end he just reviewed the game and was remarking about how dominated he got.
@@j.p.jordan3357 Profile picture is wearing a hockey jersey and for a terrible team. I think it's fair to say any sort of cerebral functioning has long ceased.
If enforced somehow, that would cause problems with genuine live analysis (e.g. variety chess stream commentators), and cheaters can easily just find non-nerfed bots anyways (e.g. old version of a chess app on their phone, play their opponent's moves against the hardest bot setting)
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The subtle jabs are the best:
“He’s a little slow..”
“Funny looking position”
“Super weird game”
You missed "interesting" around 0:26
I like it when he said guy is on a mission to find a different move than you would expect 😄
I'm not sure he thought he was cheating until he couldn't convert that first end game. Definitely was suspicious though after than bishop didn't get snapped off.
Ahhh the classic "I play like a 3200, but a 700 in the last 30 seconds and blunder everything"
Well, why not? If he has the bot set up so that the bot doesn't play for him, but the cheater makes moves himself based on the bot showing him some of the best moves on the board, then he doesn't have to make it to the end of the game.
Flag like a grandmaster
I play like that without engine assistance. My panic starts when i realize im winning. Either that or they turn on the engine.
Low time = worse moves. Doesnt have anything to do with cheating itself
@fh2234 that's a very dumb comment.
I like how he spent exactly 3 seconds on every move in the early game and then he always panicked in the late game with no time on the clock
That’s what happens with cheaters
I like how Aman keeps playing someone he suspects is cheating. He takes the challenge knowing what's going on instead of getting tilted.
Ya gotta
playing obvious cheaters is a freeroll. especially when you're at the level that you can score some wins. anything you lose will get refunded and you can still gain points.
Free content
Sort their videos by Popular and it starts to make sense
Because cheater content is the most popular chess content. GMs vs engines, especially not knowing is so interesting to watch. THis on was pretty tame and boring to be honest. Some other ones were really cool
I played a cheater once. His name was NKVB. The guy was rated 1450 but he played like a GM. Very interesting.
Don't support this guy.
NKVB is a GM. He was probably doing a speedrun. I don't know why they waste other players time on those speedruns. It's so boring.
@@fuglbird first time seeing a joke?
Is NKVB related to KNVB by any chance?
NKVD?
Ah yes, the fianknighto opening. A stockfish classic!
It looks quite strong honestly. When he won his light squared bishop. The Knight and the king couldn't really get attacked. Seems like a plan someone could come up with over 30min. Not 5 seconds or something
It really is😂😂
When I saw 1 min vs 12 seconds for aman I thought . . . easy flag
not once did aman resort to accusing of possible cheating even though I'm sure he suspected it. What a classy chap.
He did man. You do it subtle and he did it many times during the game :) Just listen to it again.
title literally says cheater
@@flusterative795Because it's been proven that they cheated lol that's different to accusing while they're playing
@@virael3801 yep I didn't really read that properly hahaha
Imagine being able to play that easily vs engine in 3 min game... I was thinking about trading 'bad' dark squared bishop too in second game. Gg, Aman. Great games
I guess that modern GM have to know engine well
Pretty awesome. It's why cheaters have a hard time crossing into the very upper 2000s in blitz. Aside from them getting banned before they make it that far, they simply can't get a crushing position in time and just get flagged
But also, as someone who has worked with Stockfish developing software (not for Stockfish, I just used the engine in my application) I think Stockfish in blitz is also quite weak relatively, as it doesn't have time to ponder a move and get a good grasp of the position and deep lines, so it just plays shallow moves that hold the position. The Stockfish developer said that Stockfish has the ability to evaluate a position on par with a Grandmaster (the evaluation function is simply a neural network trained on a bunch of positions which is precisely how human brains learn chess), so it's not overly superhuman on that front. It's superhuman with regards to brute force calculation of billions of positions per game which is more positions than a Grandmaster will see in their lifetime, and it doesn't get much of a chance to do that in blitz so the playing field is significantly more level (perhaps unless the cheater has a top of the line CPU and allocated max resources to Stockfish)
@@TheBlueSkateboard Advanced cheaters that are not getting banned can win whole game without losing more than 15 secounds on the clock. The most cheaters are actually at bullet because you can set your rating on lower accuracy and still outplay people on time without raising any red flags if done right. This whole ,,cheaters are slow'' is relict of the past generally.
@@Saltywengiell I do not think I have seen a single cheater that can beat Aman everytime, that was more what I was getting at, even the best will lose to a GM.
Unless it's a bot cheater. Then GMs are doomed unless stockfish at those speeds even on a good computer isn't that strong. That, I do not know.
@@TheBlueSkateboard Compared to stockfish, even on lower accuracies GMS have absolutely 0 chances even magnus. If aman plays tilted tuesdays im sure he was playing against non-obvious cheaters. Also remember that if someone is a cheater that is tilted player,all they need it a couple of accurate moves from the engine to beat anyone.
Thank you for your submission to our database, GM Hambleton. My team of experts and statisticians are cross-referencing the software used in this account to the algorithm Hikaru uses to generate his pineapple-themed shirts to see if there is any sort of correlation. Once we get to the bottom of this, I will report any findings.
Sincerely, Big Vlad
The Big Vlad did it for me .)
There is a dark beauty to engine moves. Darth Stockfish
“Interesting “
Man i sometimes feel same way in my rated games. I don’t know if cheaters exist in my rating or it’s my ego protecting me from the loss. Sometimes I find myself playing flawlessly and my opponent keeps on making strong moves and keeping the position closed forcing me to make a mistake. Is that the vibe you get from suspects ?
I’m actually trying to learn from my losses, but some games that feels closed like that and baited into “bad” moves are demotivating and tilting.
Cheaters exist in all ratings, it doesn't mean the player you faced was a cheater. If you suspect someone is cheating try a rematch using a defensive strategy like the hippo, bots arent very good at cracking open closed positions and if you just keep shuffling your pieces until your opponent starts running out of time and starts playing like a 700 you'll know you were against a cheater.
I am barely a 1000 on my peak performance. I can work myself back to 1200 with practice. I just need to get my end game and tactics better and stop choking on my advantages. I tend to get nervous and thro games with +3-5 even +8 games.@@katieblue9947
regarding the hippo i need to look into it. I usually play taimanov both sides and as black vs D4 I am trying to learn something easy to replicate like taimanov.@@katieblue9947
Biggest wall in ~1200-1500 rating is people sandbagging by 300 or so elo. You look at their highest rating and its like 1800
@@katieblue9947interesting that engines struggle. I also just make waiting moves until that lame setup is finished and the other commits the king somewhere. I played it myself and its fun to play but super lame to go against. But most people that play that are not very good. At all.
He can't punch moves into his engine fast enough at the end. He actually bungles cheating by not playing with an increment.
what's the music at 4:00?
Anyone?
You ever find the name of song? I tried clipping it and playing it for Shazam but couldn't get it to match the song.
😢
He was oiled up. Nice wins.
what’s the song at 7:10? thank you so much
The Dutchman by Mintz
at 3:20 dont you have Nf3+ to pick up the pawn on d4 after bishop and queen are traded off? And if Bxd4 exd4 then you move the knight and youre in time to defend e6? Bxd4 exd4, Nd7 ???, Rae8 ???, Rf6 ???, Nf8/Nc5.
Of course you'll probably lose a pawn back but that seems like an easier position to play.
Ah yes, the comment section GM. I was wondering where you were
8:00:
Aman 'GM for 5 years' Hambleton -
"How does check work?" 🤔
There's hope for us guys!! 😂
N fork king at 5:46? It's lost
I love on both games he fianchetto his knights
I wonder as a 1600 or 1700 in blitz if i could play at 2300 with a little assistance. The cheaters must often be rated 1400 or below i think.
what is the music you put on ?
This time control of 3/0 evolved about two decades ago as one that makes it troublesome to cheat when online; prior to that, speed chess was mostly 5 minutes per game. - j q t -
We were playing 2/0, 3/0, and 5/0 over the board 25-30 years ago when I started. No one was thinking about chess engines in that context. They were all just different vibes. Occasionally we would play 1/0, but no one really took that seriously.
Anyone have the title of that first song??
those videos are always the best
Obviously he didn't have time to get the next move from the computer in a time crunch. Or it was the 1st choice from the computer and not the best move. This also happens to good players who make it to the end game, but can't make accurate moves as the clock is winding down. They can't keep up and eventually blunder.
Without Cheaters there wouldn’t be life in the Universe, cheaters are the glue that is holding the fabric of the universe together.
it's in the Einstein field equation! just go look :D@@rowland2260
Bro must've got this quote from flat earthers
@@azure8490 This quote is from Super Saiyan 4 Goku
So where in the video does he teach the cheater the lesson?? I admittedly skipped around, but by the end he just reviewed the game and was remarking about how dominated he got.
?? He won the games.
As always the chess and the music are on point! Song name: Jumping on the last train / Evgeny Bardyuzha
Always love an Aman/Cheater vid.
Also, I am gay. But not as gay as the guys who comment "First".
Also I'm not gay. But for you I'm always first in line.
@@j.r.8176 That's gay.
Don't support these gays!
I'm gay actor Michael Douglas.
@@Truffle_Pup Ok, maybe a little.
engine brah
Not much. We had freezing rain last night.
inside comment or u typing in the wrong screen?
@@j.p.jordan3357 LOL. Flippin’ TH-cam app. Luckily I didn’t dox myself or post a nude. 😂
@@j.p.jordan3357 Profile picture is wearing a hockey jersey and for a terrible team. I think it's fair to say any sort of cerebral functioning has long ceased.
Program chess engines to wait ten seconds before giving a move. That would reduce cheating in blitz. I'm Vlad Kramnik and I support this message.
Doesn’t matter. Anyone with a coding background can learn how to make their own chess engine.
If enforced somehow, that would cause problems with genuine live analysis (e.g. variety chess stream commentators), and cheaters can easily just find non-nerfed bots anyways (e.g. old version of a chess app on their phone, play their opponent's moves against the hardest bot setting)
people sell cheats for profit, they aren’t gonna nerf their golden goose
Show the game review next time so we can see the accuracy
Go look it up and report back.
Cubrah KO
Interesting
that was definitely Justin Trudeau
If this guy wasn't cheating I don't know who was... this is a CHEATER
Brilliant deductive work
@@B-fq7ff Sorry. Did I ask you something?
Cheater Peter pumpkin eater. Who needs to cheat when chess comes so naturally sweet! Haha😎
@@glaucoa.9214 You didn't ask with your words but you begged with your actions. Take all the help you can get kid.
I liked it@@abebuckingham8198
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Blah blah blah, be nice, definitely, having fun is what matters. 😎🤯
2600 GM? 💀💀
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He was almost 2700.
1st comment bruh
No one cares man.
gay
First
The biggest achievement of your life, good job
gay
1st
gay
😘@@slyck_supracotra7136