Keep in mind the DCS590 is the same saw as the 20v FlexVolt Advantage DCS573, with updated XR badging. It is still a middle of the road 18v tool, and DeWalt intentionally makes it that way. They are not trying to make the 590 as powerful as something like their 60v DCS578, while you know Milwaukee is trying to make that M18 as powerful as the DCS578. Still a good video and it just proves my point.
Until this month I used Ryobi, cutting through oak and such. Just going slow, most machines will do. Now I use Milwaukee. Just because they have the best tools around (for consumer and prosumer use). They are really good.
@@parkerk7018seriously! The 60v battery gives every 20v tools more power. I do Framing, so work is slow right now. I go help out couple of guys and that does indoor carpentry work and remodels. All of the guys were making fun of my batteries(60v,9amp) until they tried if with their tools and they said they said they are going to buy one.
Several here say you need the 60 volt flew saw, I say you did a fair comparison comparing 18 Volt saws against each other and the yellow one came up waaay short. I admit I'm a Milwaukee Fan Boy but that was earned by Milwaukee as I used to be a Makita guy. I've always been impressed what Milwaukee can do just using the M18 and M12 battery platforms. I appreciate than my 10-year-old Milwaukee batteries will run the new tool I just bought last week.
So from what I understand, I believe Dewalt’s best saw right now is there 60 V flex. I believe the 20 V is a little underpowered now granted the last generation fuel is about the same, but I would love to see a head to head between your current Milwaukee and the 60 V dewalt
A 18V vs a 60V...where's the comparison? He's already comparing the 20V to give it hope. You should have your answer if you're in the market for a new cordless 7-1/4 top handle circ saw.
@ the comparison is actually pretty fair. The size of the battery requires that it only has a certain amount of cells in it. Those cells can either be wired up so that they are 18 V providing 12 amp hours or 60 V providing 3 amp hrs! Second to that there’s no such thing as 20 V tools there’s 20 V max which really just means they’re 18 V tools. It’s just marketing. Lastly, it makes a lot of sense to compare those two tools simply because both of them are top of the market and realistically if you’re invested in Dewalt professionally you’re going to get their best tools same with Milwaukee.
I think they said it’s Dewalt most powerful 20v saw. Still very surprising results. Was expecting a little more from the Dewalt I will say. Kind of a bummer.
It was what think a fair test. Now I feel as comparison to swap the DeWalt battery to a larger amp to see if it will catch up to Milwaukee, and after that try the DeWalt saw with the Milwaukee saw blade????
Love the video brother, and I appreciate your time on it. The only thing that I see that could offset the 2 saws performance so much is that the blades are different. I recognize that this is a test of out the box, real world trials. However you could pick a blade any blade just for the purpose of this 1-on-1 just to see what differences that could unfold in regards to performance. I actually believe the power hungry 2834-20 has the speed and power advantage, and I love my Dewalt saws however a blade-2-blade trial I think could be the only offsetting factor here unless the saw is a lemon. Maybe that Dewalt blade just sucks? What do you think?
@mikeredhead2894 a video before this, we put the Milwaukee blade (normal kerf) on a dewalt that came with a thin kerf and it went south. The dewalt was either broke or sucked.
That saw is definitely bogging down as soon as it hits the wood. Maybe that saw is not liking the new tabless cells in the power packs or it is a “dud”!! I agree with using a flex volt or even a good old 6AH “old school” pack. Very strange, curious to see what you discover. As always, a great video and thanks for the awesome content!!
@jronmanbuilds yes, I have a video out with the dcs570 and all the batteries. Did that two weeks ago. Pulled that saw out again and other ran the same as it did a few weeks ago.
I'm looking forward to a review on the new M12 FUEL 5/8 rotary hammer with a chisel feature 2508-21XC especially with the XC5.0/CP2.5 High Output batteries
I know this question wasn't directed to me, but the DCS578 is an absolute freak of a circular saw. I've sliced straight through knots with the DCS578 like they weren't even there.
Yeah, I have Milwaukee 2834 and Dewalt DCS578 the Milwaukee is a really impressive improvement and great saw but the flexvolt dcs578 is a beast. those are perfect saws no disappoint
I just watched the episode where you compared the dewalt batteries using dcs570 circular saw using the Milwaukee thick blade and the older dewalt circular saw never cutout using the same wood
That vøltage never dropped below 18V with the Default saw. Something obviously cuts off way too early, either the saw or the battery, but until it's running it doesn't seem problematic. The unnecessary early cutoff is the problem.
When using the DeWalt saw look at your voltage sag vs Milwaukee. There is definitely something wrong with that DeWalt saw. I own pretty much everything single DeWalt circular saw, except for that one and never had any issues. Not something to keep in mild, battery operated circular saws draw ALOT of current! Depends on how hard you push/strain the saws the DeWalt and Milwaukee 20V 6-1/2 saws draw around 38-60A. Average/normal use current draw on both saws is around 42-48A. Through my testing Milwaukee tools seem to be a bit more energy efficient. However, when it comes to DeWalt their tools tend to have way less curent cut-outs than Milwaukee. If you’re interested I can bulding you a harness for DeWalt and Milwaukee tools which will have a voltage/amp meter in between the tool and the battery. 👍🏻
Yup like another guy said that saw isnt new it’s a rebrand.at home depo it was branded as the flexvolt advantage and Lowes it was the power detect and they marketed it as there most powerful 20 volt not there most powerful
I love DeWalt. Love their corded saws. But I hate their cordless saws. I always have. Much the same way DeWalt can’t center a drill chuck. Reliability doesn’t mean anything if the tool sucks. Get it together, DeWalt.
The DCS578 has been the best saw on the market for years, and I'm not the only one to say that. Look at any tool showdown on TH-cam and the it's not even close. I don't know what you're on about.
I just got the dcs 590, not impressed. As another comment stated, the Dewalt sounds different & slower. That was the first thing I noticed with my 590, even cutting cedar, it cut slow.
Probably the saw blade. Most tool companies have thin kerf blades. Milwaukee has the thick kerf blade. Thin kerf blade is terrible for rip cuts, especially when you are using a rip guide attachment. When I need to rip a 2x P.T lumber for a joist, I use the rip guide and install the thick kerf blades. Thin kerf blades wander too much. Hope that helps!
Swap blades... use the dewalt blade on the M and vice versa, to see if they perform similarly with the same blade. Looks like the Milwaukee wins this one so far, though blades matter.
When Milwaukee uses a full kerf and Dewalt a thin kerf, it becomes difficult. A few videos back I tried to put the Milwaukee blade on the Dewalt and it was a major fail.
@DharwinMoris do thin kerf on each? If you can't see the Milwaukee has a full kerf blade and rocks it out and dewalt has a thin left and flubs it, what else can I show? I put the Milwaukee blade on the dewalt and it was a no go. I need to make the Milwaukee even faster to prove something?
@@WorkshopAddict by just reading the comments there are alot of these guys complaining that it is an unfair comparison by you using different blades , so prove them what happens next when you use the same kerf blades 😁
This dewalt 590 sounds weaker than the Milwaukee soon as you click it on so clearly no reason to buy it over the Milwaukee but what about the flexvolt 578 how would it compare? Would it cut out like that? Thank you
maybe try swapping the blades. its worth a try. I am not biased toward any brand but this really doesnt make sense. You know Dewalt has one of those Milwaukee saws for testing, why would they knowingly put out something so inferior.
@@WorkshopAddict Dewalt needs to get their poop in a group then. Milwaukee is out pacing them left and right and Flex coming on strong and coming out with new innovations all the time, Dewalt is going to be left behind. They are gonna have to get their crap together
@@kasper7106 What are you talking about, he's using the DCS590, which is A LOT less powerful than the DCS578. And the 578 has been the most powerful circular saw on the market for YEARS. Look up any other circular saw showdown including the 578 and come back to me.
I doubt this is the issue in your case but on one of my Makita saws, it started wandering to one side on rip cuts and binding up. Checked the baseplate and everything for sqaure. Turns out the depth adjustment guide was slightly bent and once i replaced that piece it was perfect again.
I have a 7 1/4 DeWalt cordless (not sure on the model) and it’s an absolute turd so this is what I kind of expected. I love all of my other DeWalt tools but the circ saw is terrible. Glad I don’t have to use it often.
Possibly the blade. But maybe thats jus how it is. Gotta go with the flexvolt. Thats what milwaukee is trying to compete with. Regardless of voltage then are in the same class of watt hour battery packs being used so its not unfair. And maybe the new milwaukee dethrones the dewalt finally. Idk
Make another video , there are alot of these people who are not convinced with the power of the new saw, so use the same third party blades like diablo just to end the debate, the dcs590 has 5500 no load rpm while the milwaukee has 6000rpm that is maintained even under load unlike most of the saws, so scientifically speaking there is no way the dewalt can beat the 2834
What are the odds it’s coming from some sort of safety feature in the battery. I’m adding base on readings on your multimeter that it’s direct wired to the battery. And these batteries have some brains waaaay smarter than mine. I bleed big red all day, But that’s very unlike anything I’ve ever used from dewalt. Even with old nicad back in the day.
@@MrArcticPOWERnon en 2016 ta eu la premiere gen de flexvolt 575 en 2018 milwaukee la 2732 qui a battu la 575 . Entuka la nouvelle milwaukee est quelque chose , la nouvelle dewalt cest la power detect et flexvolt avantage mais réetiqueter XR ...
seems like the dewalt saw is just broken. I have used dewalt 6.5 inch saws with only a 5ah batter that cut better than yours. Only way to test is to get another dewalt saw of the same exact model. But as of now i'm pretty sure the new milwakee m18 is the best top handel saw.
Thats DeWalts most powerful 20V Saw , Everyone Knows the 60V FLEXVOLT is DeWalts Most Powerful Saws and a lot of time you can get them for the same price if not cheaper than the 20v .....
Words ????? …This is not dewalts best circ saw. You know that. It’s a diy saw. That is….Milwaukees best circ saw. Dewalts best sidewinder is the 575. If your going to put best vs best then use the 575 and it will demolish the Milwaukee. You know dewalt didn’t put their best motor in that homeowner saw. And you know Flexvolt crushes every competitor except their sawzalls. Makita 40v is the only thing close! And no pros use that crap dewalt powerstack battery. It’s no better than a reg battery. Maybe forge is better for Milwaukee, but powerstack is a gimmick. I don’t wanna believe you’re a red fanboy now but this isn’t your usual choice of tools or words. Milwaukee is the one who stated for years “ you don’t need 60v tools, our 18v are better” then when they couldn’t compete , they went to 72v and 36v two battery systems like Makita did. Love the channel!
This is the new Powerpack, which is like the Forge batteries that use tabless cells. Powerstack batteries use the pouch cells. These batteries are direct comparisons. Powerstacks are actually pretty good (you need the 5ah for a tool like this, the 1.7 is a joke on a saw), but they drain pretty quick. I’ve found that the 5ah Powerstack feels the same as a 6 or 9ah Flexvolt battery on some of my higher draw tools, but the power drops off a lot quicker. The smaller Powerstack are still good when considering their power vs size. They’re good for something like an impact driver to keep the package smaller and still get a little bit more power than the older XR batteries. But you still don’t get as much power as you would by using the 5ah Powerstack, the older 6 or 8ah XR (no longer marketed “XR” batteries but still the same battery) or any of the Flexvolt batteries. And you really shouldn’t expect to since you’ll be able to draw a lot more out of the larger batteries.
@ it’s not the battery it’s the saw. And… those powerstack batteries suck, cost more , not compact , no more power than a xc. My company builds custom homes , 18 employees, 2 framing crews. We tried Milwaukee cordless tools for 2 yrs and they suck. Flexvolt is the best. No one uses a 20v circ saw or sawzall, it’s 60v tools. 20v impacts and drills and osc , that’s it. Makita makes great tools ,40v . Dewalts 20v sawzalls and circ saws are not made to compete with Milwaukee, they use larger motors. Flexvolt is dewalts top line . The comparison is not equal.
I have DeWalt tools, and 2 Old school 18 volt Porter Cab's that take nicad or li-ion batteries. With a 6 amp hr. off brandl i-ion battery, my 6 1/2" sounds faster than that DeWalt. I can rip a 2x4 with my 15 year old antique! I'd say there's something wrong with the saw.
First of all this is not Dewalts most powerful saw as you claim the DCS578 Flexvolt is the most powerful saw . Btw I was looking forward to this test but am now disappointed .This saw is probably not even up to the 573 and more like the 570.
I have given up on Dewalt cordless tools. So many tools with trigger issues. My almost brand new flexvolt blower is collecting dust because soon as you pull the trigger, it ramps up then dies. And no, its not the battery. Its the damn tool! And yes, dealing with dewalt in warranty issues is a nightmare not worth my time anymore. Finding a service center near me is total BS! Stanley B&D is the drizzling shits!
Erm no. Same parent company but different class of tool. Calling a DeWALT a yellow Black and Decker tool is like saying Milwaukee is just a Ryobi tool but in red.
Keep in mind the DCS590 is the same saw as the 20v FlexVolt Advantage DCS573, with updated XR badging. It is still a middle of the road 18v tool, and DeWalt intentionally makes it that way. They are not trying to make the 590 as powerful as something like their 60v DCS578, while you know Milwaukee is trying to make that M18 as powerful as the DCS578. Still a good video and it just proves my point.
BEEN LOOKING forward to this TESTING FOR 4 months
Sorry it took so long and ended up this way.
I just realized, this is the first time TH-cam has mentioned to me, towatch your video in quite some time. And I have it set to all notifications.
I’m a dewalt guy. I love my 578. That saw sounds way slower than the Milwaukee.
Milwaukee is a total beast not even with the 12 , i love thoses videos
Get lost Quebecer
Until this month I used Ryobi, cutting through oak and such. Just going slow, most machines will do.
Now I use Milwaukee. Just because they have the best tools around (for consumer and prosumer use). They are really good.
Was thinking about picking that Dewalt saw (dcs590b) with the battery but this video changed my mind.
Get the flexvolt 60v saw you won’t be disappointed
@@parkerk7018seriously! The 60v battery gives every 20v tools more power. I do Framing, so work is slow right now. I go help out couple of guys and that does indoor carpentry work and remodels. All of the guys were making fun of my batteries(60v,9amp) until they tried if with their tools and they said they said they are going to buy one.
@@parkerk7018 indeed! Only way to go
Several here say you need the 60 volt flew saw, I say you did a fair comparison comparing 18 Volt saws against each other and the yellow one came up waaay short. I admit I'm a Milwaukee Fan Boy but that was earned by Milwaukee as I used to be a Makita guy. I've always been impressed what Milwaukee can do just using the M18 and M12 battery platforms. I appreciate than my 10-year-old Milwaukee batteries will run the new tool I just bought last week.
So from what I understand, I believe Dewalt’s best saw right now is there 60 V flex. I believe the 20 V is a little underpowered now granted the last generation fuel is about the same, but I would love to see a head to head between your current Milwaukee and the 60 V dewalt
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A 18V vs a 60V...where's the comparison? He's already comparing the 20V to give it hope. You should have your answer if you're in the market for a new cordless 7-1/4 top handle circ saw.
@ the comparison is actually pretty fair. The size of the battery requires that it only has a certain amount of cells in it. Those cells can either be wired up so that they are 18 V providing 12 amp hours or 60 V providing 3 amp hrs! Second to that there’s no such thing as 20 V tools there’s 20 V max which really just means they’re 18 V tools. It’s just marketing. Lastly, it makes a lot of sense to compare those two tools simply because both of them are top of the market and realistically if you’re invested in Dewalt professionally you’re going to get their best tools same with Milwaukee.
Also, it’s important to add that I am definitely team red lol I just wanna see better competition and comparison!
@@tylerswain7103 Dewalt marketing broke people, " ill buy 20v its better than 18v "
I think they said it’s Dewalt most powerful 20v saw. Still very surprising results. Was expecting a little more from the Dewalt I will say. Kind of a bummer.
need an update on this when you know more!
It was what think a fair test. Now I feel as comparison to swap the DeWalt battery to a larger amp to see if it will catch up to Milwaukee, and after that try the DeWalt saw with the Milwaukee saw blade????
I would start with running the same blades on each.
The Milwaukee uses a full kerf blade and Dewalt uses a thin kerf blade. If I did that, the Dewalt would perform worse.
Allegedly @@WorkshopAddict
@@WorkshopAddictnot always sometimes the thin kerf tends to flex and bind up
@@WorkshopAddict Doesn't matter which one is better, any reputable test should include the same blade.
There is no way this dewalt is more powerful than the old flexvolt saw. Those flexvolts are crazy powerful. Can’t stop my rear handle.
@@cwikk660 It's supposedly the most powerful 20v not as powerful as the 60v saws
@ ohhhh ok. Gotcha!
DCS573 according to to test on torque test channel have 1120W out with 9Ah FV battery. If you have DCS573 add to this comparsion.
Love the video brother, and I appreciate your time on it.
The only thing that I see that could offset the 2 saws performance so much is that the blades are different. I recognize that this is a test of out the box, real world trials. However you could pick a blade any blade just for the purpose of this 1-on-1 just to see what differences that could unfold in regards to performance. I actually believe the power hungry 2834-20 has the speed and power advantage, and I love my Dewalt saws however a blade-2-blade trial I think could be the only offsetting factor here unless the saw is a lemon. Maybe that Dewalt blade just sucks? What do you think?
@mikeredhead2894 a video before this, we put the Milwaukee blade (normal kerf) on a dewalt that came with a thin kerf and it went south. The dewalt was either broke or sucked.
@WorkshopAddict okay that's fair. I am leaning towards the new M18 saw anyways, I really like it's reviews. Thanks.
Check the blade alignment. Especially if you’re using a guide for the cuts.
Certain cordless tools are 60V must for me. Circular saws and chainsaws and leaf blowers to name a few.
That saw is definitely bogging down as soon as it hits the wood. Maybe that saw is not liking the new tabless cells in the power packs or it is a “dud”!! I agree with using a flex volt or even a good old 6AH “old school” pack. Very strange, curious to see what you discover. As always, a great video and thanks for the awesome content!!
Today, I set up again with a new diablo blade and used every battery to see if anything would change. Same results or worse, depending the battery.
@@WorkshopAddictdid you try same battery different DeWALT saw to rule out the saw?
@jronmanbuilds yes, I have a video out with the dcs570 and all the batteries. Did that two weeks ago. Pulled that saw out again and other ran the same as it did a few weeks ago.
Could you do this test with a Metabo HPT 36v Stud? I’d be interested see how that stacks up
I can do that. Give me a bit.
I'm looking forward to a review on the new M12 FUEL 5/8 rotary hammer with a chisel feature 2508-21XC especially with the XC5.0/CP2.5 High Output batteries
How would you compare the 2834 (with the 12ah Forge) to the Dewalt Flexvolt sidewinder (DCS578)?
I know this question wasn't directed to me, but the DCS578 is an absolute freak of a circular saw. I've sliced straight through knots with the DCS578 like they weren't even there.
Yeah, I have Milwaukee 2834 and Dewalt DCS578 the Milwaukee is a really impressive improvement and great saw but the flexvolt dcs578 is a beast. those are perfect saws no disappoint
Did Dewalt build the saw with some sort of safety cutout to prevent kickbacks when the saw binds up?
That wasn’t a safety feature that thing was struggling the entire time.
should have tested vs the 60v dewalt, its a fair comparison because the dewalt kit is only like 360cad vs the milwaukee being around 450-500cad
Do you have other dewalt saws just to make sure you don't have a bad saw because my porter cable 20v brushless cuts faster than that dewalt
I just watched the episode where you compared the dewalt batteries using dcs570 circular saw using the Milwaukee thick blade and the older dewalt circular saw never cutout using the same wood
I have that Dewalt and use the 5ah PowerStack and never has it done what yours did, it goes through everything like butter
That is what I expected.
Could you plz do a comparison on the new Milwaukee to old dewalt 60v saw
the voltages sag on the milwaukee is way more brutal must be some huge protections on the dewalt tool or its battery
I believe a neutral blade should be used for both.
Otherwise, awesome Action 💯💪
@@joshuafigueroa6 Tough when the Milwaukee is normal kerf and the dewalt is thin kerf
@@WorkshopAddict So put the same Diablo blade on both.
@@evictioncarpentry2628diablo will overheated and start to wobble in the milwaukee , while ripping
@@evictioncarpentry2628The new Milwaukee blades should work for both saws too.
That vøltage never dropped below 18V with the Default saw. Something obviously cuts off way too early, either the saw or the battery, but until it's running it doesn't seem problematic. The unnecessary early cutoff is the problem.
Dewalt flexvolt is king.
When using the DeWalt saw look at your voltage sag vs Milwaukee. There is definitely something wrong with that DeWalt saw. I own pretty much everything single DeWalt circular saw, except for that one and never had any issues. Not something to keep in mild, battery operated circular saws draw ALOT of current! Depends on how hard you push/strain the saws the DeWalt and Milwaukee 20V 6-1/2 saws draw around 38-60A. Average/normal use current draw on both saws is around 42-48A. Through my testing Milwaukee tools seem to be a bit more energy efficient. However, when it comes to DeWalt their tools tend to have way less curent cut-outs than Milwaukee. If you’re interested I can bulding you a harness for DeWalt and Milwaukee tools which will have a voltage/amp meter in between the tool and the battery. 👍🏻
That would be interesting. Please email me.
Yup like another guy said that saw isnt new it’s a rebrand.at home depo it was branded as the flexvolt advantage and Lowes it was the power detect and they marketed it as there most powerful 20 volt not there most powerful
Can you compare the m18 to the dewalt 60v?
60v would beat the brakes off it
@ even more so if Dewalt made a tabless cell flexvolt.
You should compare rear handle circular saws.
There are reports that the electronic break engages even when the button depressed.
Switch blades.
DeWalt blades are shit when they are new
Use the same blade make and model is each saw.
I love DeWalt. Love their corded saws. But I hate their cordless saws. I always have. Much the same way DeWalt can’t center a drill chuck.
Reliability doesn’t mean anything if the tool sucks. Get it together, DeWalt.
The DCS578 has been the best saw on the market for years, and I'm not the only one to say that. Look at any tool showdown on TH-cam and the it's not even close. I don't know what you're on about.
@@MrArcticPOWER
Ditto.
The reviews on the HD site aren’t great either
Does the Milwaukee have their new brushless motor tech yet? The one they had at pipeline…
Segmented motor in that saw
I just got the dcs 590, not impressed. As another comment stated, the Dewalt sounds different & slower. That was the first thing I noticed with my 590, even cutting cedar, it cut slow.
Probably the saw blade. Most tool companies have thin kerf blades. Milwaukee has the thick kerf blade. Thin kerf blade is terrible for rip cuts, especially when you are using a rip guide attachment.
When I need to rip a 2x P.T lumber for a joist, I use the rip guide and install the thick kerf blades. Thin kerf blades wander too much. Hope that helps!
In my experience, you can’t trust a cordless DeWalt table/guide, either.
@fZionists78 Yes. I use a cord worm drive for that application. It's hard to find thick kerf blades. Thank God for Milwaukee to offer them now.
Just bought this today. Damn hate to see it
DEWALT MOST POWERFUL SAWS ARE BOTH FLEXVOLT ONE BEING THE REAR HANDLE I HAVE BOTH NO PROBLEMS.
Saw might be bad... But it's not DeWalts most powerful... That's the Flex volts... Might be the strongest 20v, but not best across the lineup
Swap blades... use the dewalt blade on the M and vice versa, to see if they perform similarly with the same blade. Looks like the Milwaukee wins this one so far, though blades matter.
Try testing the saws with all the same blades.
When Milwaukee uses a full kerf and Dewalt a thin kerf, it becomes difficult. A few videos back I tried to put the Milwaukee blade on the Dewalt and it was a major fail.
@@WorkshopAddict please make a round 2 comparison using same blades like diablo to end the doubts of these unbelievers..
@DharwinMoris do thin kerf on each? If you can't see the Milwaukee has a full kerf blade and rocks it out and dewalt has a thin left and flubs it, what else can I show? I put the Milwaukee blade on the dewalt and it was a no go. I need to make the Milwaukee even faster to prove something?
@@WorkshopAddict by just reading the comments there are alot of these guys complaining that it is an unfair comparison by you using different blades , so prove them what happens next when you use the same kerf blades 😁
Put on a Diablo blade on both saws.
It’s not Dewalt’s most powerful saw, it’s their “most powerful 20v saw”. The flexvolt has way more power
I have their flex volt saw it seems rather weak. Unless you're talking about the sixty volt, then I retract my comment
@@yorselrus1996
It has to be, because you're probably referring to a FlexVolt Advantage/Power Detect saw and not a full-on 60V.
My DeWalt outperforms my Milwaukee with the power stack 5
This dewalt 590 sounds weaker than the Milwaukee soon as you click it on so clearly no reason to buy it over the Milwaukee but what about the flexvolt 578 how would it compare? Would it cut out like that? Thank you
Switch the blades around then try again. Maybe the edge is in the blade, that would be another issue.
maybe try swapping the blades. its worth a try. I am not biased toward any brand but this really doesnt make sense. You know Dewalt has one of those Milwaukee saws for testing, why would they knowingly put out something so inferior.
Today, I set up again with a new diablo blade and used every battery to see if anything would change. Same results or worse, depending the battery.
@@WorkshopAddict Dewalt needs to get their poop in a group then. Milwaukee is out pacing them left and right and Flex coming on strong and coming out with new innovations all the time, Dewalt is going to be left behind. They are gonna have to get their crap together
@@kasper7106 What are you talking about, he's using the DCS590, which is A LOT less powerful than the DCS578. And the 578 has been the most powerful circular saw on the market for YEARS. Look up any other circular saw showdown including the 578 and come back to me.
@@MrArcticPOWER thanks for clearing that up, Poindexter
I doubt this is the issue in your case but on one of my Makita saws, it started wandering to one side on rip cuts and binding up. Checked the baseplate and everything for sqaure.
Turns out the depth adjustment guide was slightly bent and once i replaced that piece it was perfect again.
I have a 7 1/4 DeWalt cordless (not sure on the model) and it’s an absolute turd so this is what I kind of expected. I love all of my other DeWalt tools but the circ saw is terrible. Glad I don’t have to use it often.
Possibly the blade. But maybe thats jus how it is. Gotta go with the flexvolt. Thats what milwaukee is trying to compete with. Regardless of voltage then are in the same class of watt hour battery packs being used so its not unfair. And maybe the new milwaukee dethrones the dewalt finally. Idk
OK GET AN ADAPTER for the DEWALT and Run the MILWAUKEE BATTERY
I bought one from Etsy and smoke was the only show.
@WorkshopAddict bad luck never had them smoke just Break the clips to hold them in so then I have to use a rubber band
Thats toys play better with most powerful battery and blade, you’ll enjoy it
Make another video , there are alot of these people who are not convinced with the power of the new saw, so use the same third party blades like diablo just to end the debate, the dcs590 has 5500 no load rpm while the milwaukee has 6000rpm that is maintained even under load unlike most of the saws, so scientifically speaking there is no way the dewalt can beat the 2834
Dewalt doesn’t always match up with the specs they put on the box
Run the Milwaukee against the 60v Dewalt
That is so weird with the dewalt, especially when you consider the price. I see no reason to bump up from the older 570.......
What are the odds it’s coming from some sort of safety feature in the battery. I’m adding base on readings on your multimeter that it’s direct wired to the battery. And these batteries have some brains waaaay smarter than mine. I bleed big red all day, But that’s very unlike anything I’ve ever used from dewalt. Even with old nicad back in the day.
That Dewalt is sooo whack 😂😂 I got the flex volt and honestly this Milwaukee looks like a good competitor 👀 you should test them out
Jen revient pas encore comment dewalt sous performe , meme voltage en plus et environ le meme prix...
Lol ca just pris 8 ans pour que milwaukee finissent par sortir une scie aussi forte qu'une dewalt flexvolt.
@@MrArcticPOWERnon en 2016 ta eu la premiere gen de flexvolt 575 en 2018 milwaukee la 2732 qui a battu la 575 . Entuka la nouvelle milwaukee est quelque chose , la nouvelle dewalt cest la power detect et flexvolt avantage mais réetiqueter XR ...
@@OUTILSCLIPSQC J'ai une 575 et je travail régulièrement aven une 2732. Même avec une 12ah, la 2732 est pas aussi forte que ma 575 avec une 9ah.
@@MrArcticPOWERje ne suis pas de cette avis 👍🤷♂️
If it ain't red, it stays in the shed.
😂 bro you're lame af, that's so corny
If it's Red it's usually Dead!
Gay
seems like the dewalt saw is just broken. I have used dewalt 6.5 inch saws with only a 5ah batter that cut better than yours. Only way to test is to get another dewalt saw of the same exact model. But as of now i'm pretty sure the new milwakee m18 is the best top handel saw.
You double click the trigger on the dewalt it has a slow and fast feature 😂
Saw blades may be the only difference
That DeWalt is doing what the one at work does. The non-flex volt. My Ridgid does better than this 20 volt saw. Thats from experience.
No way this 590 saw is more powerful than the 578. Idk what Dewalt is smoking.
They never claimed this saw was the most powerful anywhere
@@FusionBoost2.0 I think I got mislead by him at 7:43 , but you're right, Dewalt claims 1700W for the 590 as opposed to 2456W for the 578.
guys the spec is different and price is different too, can't compare
Thats DeWalts most powerful 20V Saw , Everyone Knows the 60V FLEXVOLT is DeWalts Most Powerful Saws and a lot of time you can get them for the same price if not cheaper than the 20v .....
This can't be the strongest dewalt saw
Words ????? …This is not dewalts best circ saw. You know that. It’s a diy saw.
That is….Milwaukees best circ saw. Dewalts best sidewinder is the 575. If your going to put best vs best then use the 575 and it will demolish the Milwaukee.
You know dewalt didn’t put their best motor in that homeowner saw. And you know Flexvolt crushes every competitor except their sawzalls. Makita 40v is the only thing close!
And no pros use that crap dewalt powerstack battery. It’s no better than a reg battery. Maybe forge is better for Milwaukee, but powerstack is a gimmick.
I don’t wanna believe you’re a red fanboy now but this isn’t your usual choice of tools or words.
Milwaukee is the one who stated for years “ you don’t need 60v tools, our 18v are better” then when they couldn’t compete , they went to 72v and 36v two battery systems like Makita did. Love the channel!
I've had to stop watching yt channels because of stuff like that,im not team yellow or red so I wouldn't know...but just saying
This is the new Powerpack, which is like the Forge batteries that use tabless cells. Powerstack batteries use the pouch cells. These batteries are direct comparisons.
Powerstacks are actually pretty good (you need the 5ah for a tool like this, the 1.7 is a joke on a saw), but they drain pretty quick. I’ve found that the 5ah Powerstack feels the same as a 6 or 9ah Flexvolt battery on some of my higher draw tools, but the power drops off a lot quicker. The smaller Powerstack are still good when considering their power vs size. They’re good for something like an impact driver to keep the package smaller and still get a little bit more power than the older XR batteries. But you still don’t get as much power as you would by using the 5ah Powerstack, the older 6 or 8ah XR (no longer marketed “XR” batteries but still the same battery) or any of the Flexvolt batteries. And you really shouldn’t expect to since you’ll be able to draw a lot more out of the larger batteries.
@ it’s not the battery it’s the saw. And… those powerstack batteries suck, cost more , not compact , no more power than a xc. My company builds custom homes , 18 employees, 2 framing crews. We tried Milwaukee cordless tools for 2 yrs and they suck. Flexvolt is the best. No one uses a 20v circ saw or sawzall, it’s 60v tools. 20v impacts and drills and osc , that’s it.
Makita makes great tools ,40v . Dewalts 20v sawzalls and circ saws are not made to compete with Milwaukee, they use larger motors. Flexvolt is dewalts top line . The comparison is not equal.
Try a diablo blade much better
this isnt dewalts most powerful saw, the flexvolt and the 60v are more powerful
have you ever tested the ryobi?
I have DeWalt tools, and 2 Old school 18 volt Porter Cab's that take nicad or li-ion batteries. With a 6 amp hr. off brandl i-ion battery, my 6 1/2" sounds faster than that DeWalt. I can rip a 2x4 with my 15 year old antique! I'd say there's something wrong with the saw.
Run a flexvolt 9ah battery
The 8.0 he is using has tabless cells and actually has more power than the 9.0 does
@ I like the flexvolt batteries better
@jps101574 no it doesn't 3 row batteries are more powerful than 2 row batteries tabless or tab
Same shit as the dcs570 as it looks.
You should’ve put a same new blade for the test though..
DeFault 🤷♂️
You can hear the difference in rpms between the two. What a disappointment for Dewalt.
Rpms don't mean power
Dewalt saw sounds weaker. So I say it the saw probably.
First of all this is not Dewalts most powerful saw as you claim the DCS578 Flexvolt is the most powerful saw . Btw I was looking forward to this test but am now disappointed .This saw is probably not even up to the 573 and more like the 570.
another milwaukee ad video
use normal battery on dewalt and same blade or do nothing.
You should make dewalt dcs 578 with 9ah vs milwaukee with 12 forge and the same blade , toolboxbuzz has said the milwaukee is 3200 watts with the 12
Get lost Quebecer
Switch blades on the dewalt. And also use the same blade on both dewalt and Milwaukee
Milwaukee uses a full kerf blade. That would not help the Dewalt that has a thin kerf.
Milwaukee is better than dewalt
Dewalt sounds a lot weaker in power.
that why im a festool guy there not cheap but you get what u pay for
Festool wouldn't win this test. Milwaukee is more powerful. Nothing against Festool.
I have given up on Dewalt cordless tools. So many tools with trigger issues. My almost brand new flexvolt blower is collecting dust because soon as you pull the trigger, it ramps up then dies. And no, its not the battery. Its the damn tool! And yes, dealing with dewalt in warranty issues is a nightmare not worth my time anymore. Finding a service center near me is total BS! Stanley B&D is the drizzling shits!
Get it warrantied fool lol
It's ok too be slow in the head
I'm definitely going with the Milwaukee it out shine that DeWalt. You have to remember DeWalt is just a yellow Black & Decker.
Yep and a Milwaukee is nothing but a Chinaman Ryobi
Erm no. Same parent company but different class of tool. Calling a DeWALT a yellow Black and Decker tool is like saying Milwaukee is just a Ryobi tool but in red.
I love dewalt but they make shit blades. Throw a Diablo on it and it’ll probably rip unless you did get a bad saw
Strange. My dewalt 570 performs much better
Seems like something is wrong with the Dewalt.
Why can't it be the blade?
Because I swapped them and it did the same thing. I would have had a 40 minute video if everything was on camera.
@@WorkshopAddict Then is have to be the saw itself.
Do the Dewalt vs the Craftsman RP