ASUS ROG Ally Z1: Is It Good Enough?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Z1 ROG Ally is coming soon, so let's take a look at how this $599 handheld Windows PC compares to the $699 Z1E model that is already on the market.
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Timestamps:
00:00 introduction
01:25 what is the Z1 ROG Ally?
02:38 user interface and software
06:06 controls
09:07 ergonomics
10:32 screen & sound
13:51 PC game performance test
21:23 emulation performance test
26:56 Z1 vs Z1 Extreme
29:07 battery life
32:32 summary and conclusion
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Correction, the Z1 chip is more aligned to the Ryzen 5 7540U (4 CUs) than the Ryzen 5 7640 (8 CUs). Thanks to everyone for pointing it out!
Thanks for the audio highlights 🎉 I love these speakers 🔊
Also, the 2021 XG Mobile is the 3080 Laptop, not the 3080Ti Laptop.
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You should take this video down. That mistake is quite big. You just made a mistake in the most important and different part vs the extreme...
@@yusepbcneasy there, he's no LTT 🙊
@@RomanBellicTaxi yes, but the error is not a small stuff. Imagine Russ mistaking the chip of the new anbernic.
My how time can change things up dramatically----Best Buy almost always had the Z1 version at $399. It's not all the time, but most of it. For that much of a drop over the Z1 extreme, I'll deal with the lower performance and buy a ton more games 😄
just grabbed a Z1 for $399. at that price, not bad for someone who just wants to dabble in handhelds. Would have never considered spending over $500 on a handheld
How many fps do you get with it I wanna get one pc I don’t have a gaming pc or laptop and wanna play games on it maybe not mw3 just stories games
@@joseserpas265expect around 30 fps on mid setting on new games
I have now owned the Z1 extreme, currently the Legion go, and early the steam deck. Locally I can get a non-extreme for 250. Seriously seriously debating it because for that price it will emulate pretty much anything and I am within shooting distance of an Odden, but with the ability to play some AAA light I have my desktop and laptop for the heavy stuff.
If it was $200 less, I could see justifying its existance but the disadvantages are not worth saving $100.
at $399, it would be a Killer. $599 is too much for the loss of performance
@@CBXwebtheir margins must be pretty low since the z1 extreme is really price competitive they would be losing money if they sold it any lower
Considering you can get an open-box Z1E for the same price at the same store, it's a really tough proposition at $599. I wonder if Asus is going to put these on sale regularly.
@@kyledoesntgetit5602 those open box have a higher chance of having a lot of backlight bleed or any other known asus quality control issues cause they were returned for a reason lol
200 how?
Awesome video. This is what I was looking for. Thank you and keep going 💪🏽
New subscriber, thanks for all your awesome videos! I love your particular brand of reviews and hands-on descriptions that is sometimes better than straight benchmarks. Got the Z1 Extreme Ally and love it! Game on!
I think most people will spend the extra $100 for the Z1 Extreme. Maybe that will see them bring the price down on the Z1 in the future. I just hope that disappointing sales of the Z1 won't lead to Asus giving up on making budget or mid-tier handhelds, we need more
We need more moving forward not backwards.
This handheld will confuse parents or people unfamiliar with the differences and they will end up with a bad experience because of it. Unless you are going to go really cheap like sub $300 for an emulation machine like the odin 2 they should not come out with these gimped x86 handhelds. They are too weak to play games well and at that $300 price you are better off with an android operating system with a snapdragon. You'll be able to emulate everything up to ps2 and gamecube and get great battery life with a better OS experience. Still could stream everything as well. Just make sure you add a desktop like feature when plugged in to a monitor like Samsung or Motorola has.
Or just get an open box Z1 extreme at around 550...
@@creaturecore13 If we applied that logic to gaming PCs and laptops they would all come with RTX4090s and be prohibitively expensive for most people. Handheld PCs with varying degrees of performance and price is a good thing for the consumer.
@@creaturecore13I doubt parents are buying these over regular consoles
Apparently they are 399 at the moment would be interesting to get a relook at the value proposition. Especially with the bios updates
definately interesting to look at now with the fluid frames driver being available
@@fatmaninhell_za9915 i wanna try that forrsure
Is it good?
The performance / efficiency differences are larger than I thought
Yeah, I had heard when this device was released, I don't know if it was from Asus or AMD or someone else, that the difference wouldn't be that great. It's a good step up on the Extreme, so I think the Z1 is for less expensive devices in the $400-500 range. 720p LCD screens, cheaper plastic body and buttons, smaller and slower drives. Built for emulation and older titles. If there is a market for that in that price bracket
@@deansmits006 Something to consider, if they're dropping to 720p, the GPU horsepower needed will also drop pretty dramatically, so it could still do some AAA games at a reasonable framerate (or probably using less power to do 30fps), which would be a perfectly fine compromise. After all, that's basically where the Deck was targeting and while Valve has the pain point of selling either at a loss or pretty much at cost (can't believe they'd be making any money on these things with how much some stuff costs these days...), if Asus could have at least designed down to the $500 range with a cheaper screen that competes more with the Deck, it'd be a good alternative to suggest for people. Otherwise, if you're in the US, getting a Deck on sale for $360 is basically *the* deal to get, just add your own screen protector and a microSD card and you're off to the races.
At the ROG price point, I don't think its worth saving $100 to get a Z1. What I'm interested in is the possibility of mini PCs using the Z1 in the future at decent prices. It would make for a great little Steam Box/alternative console.
They put a price for just portability
especially since Best Buy has tons of open box returns of the Z1E Ally on their shelves going for a bit under $600.
Which is dumb since steam deck beats them in almost every category. At least the z1 extreme version have performance advantage in some cases, this new model is just a worse steam deck.@@infomanfaatshare6667
@@minhthang97 you sir are 100% correct
The Z1 is now consistently selling for $399. Now it just depends if it’s worth it at that price point
Yup I am seriously considering getting the z1 at that price but since this will be my only gaming setup (last one was ps2) I'm hesitant to get the lower model. Just getting back in to gaming and Currently using a tablet with Xbox game pass and I think I need something that can do all the new higher end games
@@elpelon96 I bought the Odin 2 and way a way smarter purchase for me. Nothing I can’t emulate and I can stream all the rest.
@@donkeydrangis216 I ended up getting the extreme, was looking at them that weekend on best buy and almost got the z1 but decided to wait a couple weeks but on Monday I couldn't resist and checked bestbuy again and they dropped the extreme to $599 and they had open box in excellent condition for $500 so I went for it
Been waiting for this one, thanks Russ!
it's the most detailed review of the rog ally, that's exactly what i was looking for. great job
After watching both of your reviews I think I made the correct choice getting the z1 extreme version rather than waiting for the cheaper one to come out over here (UK). Thankyou for your clear and concise review on both devices
You're welcome
The Ally drew me into the handheld community. I got mine day 1. I still love it. It does everything that I wanted it to do. I do have some interest in the Legion Go though.
Best review on TH-cam, thanks man.
Hey Russ! Kind of a new subscriber, who bought their first handheld device (Miyoo mini plus) based on your videos! I was hoping if you could give us another video on some “budget” handhelds maybe under the $200 mark? The miyoo mini is perfect for GBA and some PS1 emulation which is what I got it for. BUT, I am kind of missing the console I grew up with, the PS2 and Wii. I know that those two might be hard to find, besides the retroid pocket 3+, but I’m hoping you can help me narrow down a few more choices. But thank you, I watch your videos every time you upload. You’re really doing very exceptional work along with other TH-camrs focusing on retro and handheld gaming. Again, thank you and a very warm thank you for getting me in touch with my inner child!
That latest vertical handheld and and the retroid pocket flip can do GameCube and PS2.
If you want Wii though, ya maybe outta luck for a bit longer at that price point. So you'll need to wait for another gen before that, otherwise you'll have to raise your budget a bit.
If you're willing to spend a little more, I think you would like the Odin Lite.
It will be interesting to see if the Ally Z1 continues to fry microSD cards. If it does, what the hell, Asus? And if it doesn't...what the hell, Asus?
Brooooo is that what happened to my shit?
Yes
That's why I returned mine a week after having it. I've lost intereted after.
I was feeling ill when I got home then saw this pop up on my phone.
Life is good! Lol thanks Russ ❤
Love your videos!.
So what handheld is best for PS2 emulation, without having to tweak and change certain settings?
To negate the deadzone you can also go into Steam Input and set the Right Stick as Joy Stick Mouse. Smooth movements.
Nice tip, thanks!
Something to note: Best Buy is selling the ROG ally Z1E used at like new condition for around 600-630. If you go for a worse condition you might be able to get it for even less.
At that price there is no good reason to buy this, so you’ll probably see this handheld either discontinuing or dropping down to 500 (or even 450 though unlikely).
Edit: my best buy has the rog ally open box with excellent condition at $587.99. An absolute BARGAIN, I recommend checking your local best buy for the price if you're looking for one.
Lol what? They won't be discontinuing it or dropping the price. Those are best buy exclusive open box and cosmetically flawed units. Doesn't mean it's going to drop in price or that they will stop selling it 🤣
I am hoping there's a holiday season sale for the RoG Ally.
Got mine open box from Best Buy at $609 looking like new and have had 0 issues with it in a month.
Dude take mine z1E for 400 dollars plus shipping but it has stick drift
I dont want someones salami jerkin hands all over my handheld.
Did not expect a late video
@@SRC267 Go to sleep Euopoorian
That price point is actually intriguing. I keep thinking to myself. Man, I'd love to have a windows dedicated handheld. Although Linux handhelds like the steamdeck are great. So many games just straight up run better on windows. Thank you for your coverage as always! I have to say though. I wonder what you do with your handhelds? I saw you auction off some. From that one video you posted. But Like on a regular bases. I'd have a hard time choosing which ones to use. 😂 I like my Steamdeck though. It can do everything I need it to
Buy a 1 - 2tb SSD, and put an install of windows on to it, then write an image of whatever flavor of Linux you want on a 1tb micro SD. When you wanna run windows leave the card out, when you want Linux pop that booger in.
Cheers Russ, interesting stuff. Not quite hitting a price/performance/battery life sweet spot for me.
If you are already spending that much money, might as well spend extra 100 dollars to get xtreme model. Doesn't make sense to leave so much performance on the table to save only 100 bucks...on the other hand, i think this model should have been priced at $499.
I'm pretty stupid excited about this whole thing.
I'm still waiting on the Legion Go to come out, because detachable controllers have potential in my head, but the Ally is still my dream handheld.
Hopefully the Legion Go is popular and manufacturers start making alternate controller attachments. The best thing about the Switch joycons was the opportunity to swap them for full size controller grips.
I just got it and it runs everything just fine. Like a dragon in 1080p and high settings with 25w, no issues. GC emulation all good. FC24 with high in 720p, no issues besides the stupid cut scenes. Jedi Surviror in low and 720p also works like a charm. If you are in a country where the Z1 is 200 or even more EUR cheaper, its definitely worth it over the extreme version.
i got Z1 extreme and it handles evry game i try. Love it. Havent been on my main pc for a while 10/10
I’m in the same boat as you after the z1 extreme my pc collects dust and I gotta sweet rig too
Thanks bud this helps 👍
don't worry about benchmarks the review you do is comprehensive enough for me
Thanks for the great video again! One suggestion: could you test the streaming performance also? After trying the Moonlight for Steamdeck, 99% of my gaming is streaming from my main pc. Does this support Moonlight? How's the experience?
Z1 Extreme user here
I don't use moonlight specifically, but I do use Parsec for remote play. It supports modern streaming codecs like h.265 and works with fairly low latency if that helps at all
Came here because I see one currently on sale for 398 and I'm seriously considering it.
At the initial MSRP, I think the Z1 does not justify a $100 difference. However, Best Buy is having a $200 discount for the holidays for the Z1 which, in my opinion, is way more in line with price vs performance difference. In my use case, the Z1 will be more than sufficient for the games I intend on playing, especially while I’m traveling. Plus, down the road, as things change, the ability to upgrade the GPU for home use is perfect! Just my $.02
The $200 discount is back now, and there have some open box units for $320 in good condition (not excellent, excellent is around $340). It's tempting.
@@BETEP-gw7qp yeah. I got mine, and playing around with it. For a handheld, it’s actually not doing too bad. If you can get it for $320, dude, do it!
I didn’t even know this was out! It needs to be same price as steam deck $500 max
I just bought a non extreme for $330 from best buy, and I am so excited!
Please help , you play triple A games ?
Is it good
Three questions.
1. Doesn't the system allow you to have scale to screen so that the black bars are only on the sides instead of all sides for 4:3 games?
2. Can this CPU really not bottleneck the external mobile 3080 Ti? That's impressive.
3. Since you use it as a PC, (which I would too if I had one), have you tried doing video editing on the device, with external monitor with and without the external GPU?
I was hoping this would be close to matching the battery life with the steam deck on lighter indie games and emulators, but with it seemingly capping under 4 hours even there and costing around the same as the top model of steam deck this might be a hard sell.
But the higher frame rate, VRR and screen is nice so hopefully there is a market for this and more incentive for Valve to improve on the screen.
What higher frame rate? There is none. Z1E is hardly faster considering drawbacks in battery/power.
@@krzysztof6591 I'm referring mostly to very light indie games that could go for the 120 fps, or anything between 60 and 120 really. The SOC is not so bad that no games can benefit from the higher refresh rate.
And if the frame generation picks up in the future that might help in more cases.
Better screen is still better screen and something Steam Deck and others could hopefully improve on down the line.
Prices are much better at the moment. best buy $400 for the zl $600 z1e, just ordered an open box good condition z1e for 520
Thank you for the review. For $100 less it is not worth it. Z1 Extreme version for $100 more is the best price performance. Not to forget the two-time smaller SSD(512 vs. 256 Gb).
Could you make a video of the upcoming (announced or rumored) Handhelds for 2024 ?
Thanks. 😀
The ONLY reason to pick up the original Ally over a Steam Deck was because of the significant performance boost. Here, that advantage is lessened. Just go with a Deck and enjoy the amazing software support and ecosystem.
I have the deck and other handheld pcs. I have the most issues with the deck.
I still love it when it works but yeah i don't have as much access to my library as i wanted.
@BGRecon wtf are u even talking about? what library? unless urbtoo rtrded almost everything works on the deck, everything I've thrown at the deck worked, even games and apps nobody knows about
@@c6tlvr most games work just fine, but there's some popular titles that don't due to anti-cheat incompatibility. Like CoD, Battlefield, etc. That's my biggest issue with the Deck.
@@c6tlvr Xbox Game Pass? Games with Anti-Cheat?
@asawarai u won't be playing warzone on the steamdeck, don't need gamepass when i pirate whatever i want
I feel astonished and bringing out the Z1 regular 1. You should have fixed the problem with the microSD card.
quick question. is there anywhere a list of the top 10 best emulation handhelds? there are tons of reviews of different devices, but i need a comparison :D whats the best of the best? i need a budget one for like 100 bucks, that plays SNES; all kind of game boys(classic,color,advance) etc. thats small, that has good batterylife, that has not a bugged d-pad, that has no image stuttering or whatever. where can i find a comparison like that? =) or any sugestions for the best ones out there currently?
This Ally non-x for $399 or steam deck with same price? Which one is better? Because right now ally non-x is $399 in best buy so i was wondering w/c is better to get.
the ally also has quite a bit of motion blur / ghosting due to it being 7ms response rate. i noticed this straight away when moving the mouse cursor for example. it blurs. probably gonna be more noticeable for people on the spectrum like me. i would say the steamdeck is worse tho
I got mine for about 400 at best buy, and honestly I think it's worth the price. Sure you could just get the z1 extreme but price wise, think about it like a switch lite to a normal switch. Sure it's missing a few things but it's still a good handheld.
I got the ROG ALLY Extreme as an open box for $500 at Best Buy. Worth it 1000%.
Just order the same deal. I'm excited to try it
@@cassijoanna it was a bit of a hassle to get working right. The guy who returned the ROG ALLY had vanilla Windows 11 installed so during the initial setup Windows didn't recognize the ROG Wi-Fi card so I couldn't connect to the internet. I ended up having to boot into the ROG BIOS and doing an Asus cloud recovery.
Until a hardware revision comes around for the SD card issue, I can't see *either* SKU being a good idea... I only see the lower spec model here being a winner if somewhere down the line they get heavy discounts.
You'd think they'd of already halted production for that
whats the SD card issue about?
@@GundamDroidMany Ally have been frying people SD cards.
Russ even mention in this video that he couldn't retest Two of the games because they were on this fried SD card.
People think it's because the slot is too close to the Air exhaust, but either way, it's too risky to use SD cards with Ally devices.
@@AntonioCunningham wow that is really bad. I hope they can solve that in the next ally if there is one.
@@GundamDroid not just cooked cards, some folks have had the actual SD card hardware in the device die, notably Gamers Nexus had that happen to the (retail) unit they were reviewing.
I’m gonna keep my eye open on the Ally Z1 extreme model and see if it goes on sale on Black Friday/Cyber Monday for 5-10% off
Russ could you PLEASE share the temple you use for your RTSS/MSI Afterburner overlay?
Are you using tbe Z1 Extreme or Z1 with the XG Mobile?
Z1. He already has a bunch of Z1e + xg videos
I picked up one on sale for $400 as a jrpg machine. Comes in today hope it was worth the investment
Was it?
I just wish they would support the Z1E more so we’d have some confidence in accessory makers to support the device too.
hi! great video, best review channel! i think your FPS not grows when increase TDP because this games (Zero Dawn and Spiderman) caps to 4GB of GPU RAM
I got the Z1 non extreme version for 339 open box at Best Buy. I mostly wanted a windows computer to be docked / connected to a monitor with wireless keyboard and mouse 100% of the time. Did I get a good deal? Also I’m not interested in gaming. As I own a ps5 and a modded Nintendo switch. I could perhaps use the rog ally for retro emulation
Should try a custom manual 18w mode its a nice buff of up to 10fps with just the 3w boost rather than turbos extra 10w
dang, I didn't think I'd actually see the Z1...was taking so long
They can give 720p 60hz screen in this and sell it for 300$. That's a good price for this.
I got my kid (10 y.o.) the PlayStation Portal for Christmas, but we're finding it not to be that great. It gets laggy often, and it came with a screen defect (stuck pixel) with no easy way to replace it due to supply shortages. I can still return it, and I was wondering if the basic Z1 ally might be a good option. My kid does play PC games, mostly Roblox, but he also likes all kinds of smaller Indy games, that's what kids are into these days it seems. I think for just a bit more (I can get a Z1 open box Ally today for $320, or new for $399), it might be worth a try. Can you guys think of any downsides? While not as seamless, we can still do remote play from PS5, we can also do remote play via Steam, and heck, maybe even stream some games from my desktop with a 4090 in it. And of course run some games directly on the unit. It's tempting.
vrr can be adjusted using custom resolution utility. my range goes all the way down to 20hz
Wait a bit... Z1Extreme is basically the 7840U, but the TFLOPS performance is around 3x the Z1. But I believe the 7640U has 8 CUs on the GPU, and Z1X/7840U has 12... so the Z1 probably/really has 4 CUs as it was said... that's a big cut.
Even the Steam Deck has 8, despite from one gen before. If it was at least 6, like the (middle) AYN Loki, it would be okay, but 4 is a quite a stretch for some cases.
If I had the money and a single option for a non-6800U/non-7840U, I think I'd prefer a GPD Win 4 with the 7640U... I believe Asus dropped the ball on this one.
That said, there's always a case for everything. Someone might get this one and put in lots of hours of fun. If so, good for you!
Nice video as always, Russ.
edit: better reading; 4 CUs, not 3, guess I can't math properly 🥲
The Z1 has 4 CUs, it's most similar to a 7540U, not a 7640U.
@@SvDKILLSWITCHthank you, right after commenting I edited a bit of stuff to be clearer, but still made a fool of myself 😂
Just picked up the Z1 regular for $299. I figure it’s worth the performance decrease to save $3-$400. Wondering what the prices will be when the Ally 2 comes out.
Is it worth the $399.99 it's on sale for at Best Buy right now?
I would say in term of Performance mode, it's about 20% difference between Z1 & Z1E version, which is pretty reasonable to pick Z1 at $399
Z1 corelates more with 7540U than 7640U but to me I'd base it on 7640U and use 7540U for "lite" chip for h-helds up to 6" used mostly for indie and emu
Thanks for the video, as far as I know Asus XG mobile comes with 3080 and no 3080ti.
Regarding the dead zone issue, when I first had the Ally, it was present on when navigating the desktop, did they fix that?
Could you start testing the Simpson Hit and Run, The Urbz, and Sims Bustin Out please! I wanna know if these can run those games smoothly
27:04 WHY Russ WHY? Nausea Warning 😂😂
Well I can play ready or not with a decent steady frame rate on 15 performance mode and slow down on certain maps but other than that it's been a smooth experience. I should have bought the z1 extreme though..
In Europe Z1 being now 400 new, I am picking mine today mint for 300. I think this we can consider a good deal.
How does this compare to a steamdeck? Getting a z1 extreme in Japan is a 200 dollar difference so im kinda interested in this model.
Hard to swallow at the 599 price, but it's now 399 at Best Buy which makes it a lot more tempting. For the Z1 non extreme version
Can the back buttons not be programed for individual games? Like remapping the A button to one of them?
For the LOVE of GOD please review everything in my life
could you do a review of the r35s emulation handheld please
Did they fix the SD Card issue on this variant?
Doubtful, it's in the exact same location
If the Z1 performs so much worse than the Z1 Extreme in most cases, then just get back Steam Deck at that point. The cheapest model is $359 right now, which is a steal!
Steam must be losing a little money, or just covering costs on the Deck. Which is often the case with Consoles, but not typically full computers. But I agree, that's a steal.
@deansmits006 they aren't losing money at all lol, they just know how to sell
@@c6tlvrthey mean losing money on hardware sales, which is a common thing on console, you regain your money on software sales, which asus can't do (as they don't own steam)
@@deansmits006they indeed sell the hardware at a loss. Valve wants to build their own ecosystem
Sam’s had Z1 for $379, wonder if Z1 is good enough for emulation up to WiiU? How Z1 cpu compare to Snapdragon 8 gen 2 on Odin 2?
I don't even care about this version of the Ally but thank you so much for this video. D2 is my main game and that thumbstick issue has been a huge pain point since the thumbstick settings had done nothing to help certain games on my steamdeck I had all but given up and hadn't thought to adjust them on steam on my Ally. Also I had no idea about the controls using the D Pad and the back bumpers. I'm 8 minutes in and this is already the most informative ROG Ally Video I have seen and I have owned my Z1 Extreme since launch. Thank you so much now if they could fix it so that halo MCC's input worked properly from the handheld controls I'd be all set.
You probably don't mention it, but how does this compare to the steam deck?
I've heard overall that the deck is better than the z1 extreme models between price, performance/battery, and os.
I have a steam deck, and i have zero issues with it, but my brother wants one, and he doesn't know a whole lot about computers to use linux.
I did a comparison video of the Steam Deck and Z1E Ally a few months ago, and those points still stand: th-cam.com/video/BKhQr_Tq_DI/w-d-xo.html
For this model in particular the performance will likely be worse than the Steam Deck. I prefer the Steam Deck over both models of the Ally, but that is a personal preference.
I'm deff curious if the new one has the SD card reader issue
first off, yes! I like your non-benchmark review of devices better than others that focus more on them (Y) question about 120hz... so when you are playing 1080p and it's only max around 48fps as you mentioned, that is still with 120hz refresh? I would imagine that still looks pretty good either way? Thanks!
40 FPS on 120 Hz would be great experience
With the ROG ALLY on sale for $399 VS Anbernic RG556 costing $200 vs Oden 2 at $369 plus shipping, in terms of emulation…which would be better? I’m asking because I just purchased the Anbernic but the ROG is on sale.
I'm looking into buying a cheapish handheld gaming device. Should I go for this, or Steamdeck 256GB LCD? 🤔
I bought the Z1 extreme, excellent condition open box for $600 and added 3 years of warranty for $200.
Woww that a great deal
I did a similar thing with a TV recently. Nice
Now the ROG ALLY Z1 is jus $399
I thought about getting a xg mobile for my ally but my pc mobo has 4 m.2 drive slots so i just keep everything on there now maybe when 2230 drives get to around 4 or 8 tb id use one as my main desktop
What are the chances I can run CP2077 on low settings/fps?? I accidentally got the Z1 & now am stuck with it, even tho playing 2077 was one of my top 3 hopes to use this for, being that everything else is too expensive or requires other services. I have steam on my old 2017 laptop but have not been able to enjoy 2077 anywhere, or even Stray, both a huge hype wish I've had for years..
I'm playing it on my Z1 on medium-ish settings 720p with the fsr 3.0 and I'm getting around 60 fps on turbo. I've been having fun playing it but there's still some more tinkering I have to do!
i paid 399 + taxes for a brand new z1 model at best buy. For this price is practically a gift
How is it for gaming
@@llks1772 excelent... but if you really need more power you have an option search for the xg mobile with the radeon rx 6850m
Very interesting on this chip....maybe getting a used Z1 xtreme for the same price if not less than Z1 $599 price is the way to go. I have a feeling this ROG Ally will have a good sale this year for Black Friday. Maybe holding out for a couple more months is better.
Difference between 4 CUs and 12 CUs alot lesser than the number implies, probably due to memory bandwidth and power limitation, but for 100 dollar more the z1e is definitely the better buy.
For people who really don't need the power and still want a high quality VRR screen with good and non over exaggerated colors for their handheld I guess it's still an option.
Make more sense at 500-550.
I don't suppose you know if they really mix zen 4 and zen 4c cores here?
I've heard that it's that version, with 2 standard cores and 4 dense cores. For a gaming focused handheld, it may not be the best chip. I mean, gaming can be highly single threaded, but the other 4 cores wouldn't turbo very high, just meant to offer 4 more cores in about 2 cores space for multi threading. If you plan to use your Ally as a computer, then sure, probably a good chip. But as primarily to game....just the Z1E.
@@deansmits006and the Zen 4c cores has half the L3 caché.
They clearly introduced it now to counter the 699$ Legion go and those new refurbisned Steam decks. But whoever put down the numbers missed the whole exercise.
sending some love to ratchet in the background
For me, I want a 120hz OLED. I was so excited for the Kun but the 60hz screen 😢
I really want to watch your review on the PS Portal
Hmm... I'm just waiting for the Legion. I'm hoping the Legion's screen can be vertical for arcade games.
Just got one for $300!!!! For the price of literally a used switch, this thing can't be best!
What are you playing on it ?
@@alfredtorres1252 man so far I've just been enjoying the same games from my deck at like double the performance it feels 😭. I was impressed in sections of cyberpunk that ran locked 40 but now I can get a nice image and turbo mode 25w off battery and I can hit 60!! And even the dips in heavy scenes on medium don't go below 30. Vrr helps out. Besides that I'd say 120fps halo,sifu, I'm waiting to see how the situation develops with cod but I'll probably skip it, I want to set up some psp emulators etc. plus I don't miss my decks track pad at all armory crate ftw
@@kimalibennett9468 heck yeah. I sold my steam deck and got the rog ally for what I sold my steam deck for. All the reviews were talking bad about the z1 model and it couldn’t run mw3. I’ve been playing it flawlessly on battery and obviously ever better when plugged in. I was running windows on steam deck but this blows it out of the water. I was playing Skyrim on steam deck and so excited to play it on rog ally especially since I have an upcoming flight this week
Do you have a z1 or the extreme @@kimalibennett9468
9 watt TDP for lightweight games still blows my mind. It's so high.
I'll just keep using my Oled Switch for handheld gaming and my PS5 for those AAA games, my life will not change being able to play them on the go, i rather enjoy them at home in my already expensive monitor without having to go through all the trouble of settings and all that bs
CONCLUSION:
TOTALLY GOOD ENOUGH
Except about the SDCARD malfunction issue that's plaguing almost everyone.