Oh please have no sympathy for Vader. He murdered lots of Jedi killed his former Jedi master and friend Obi Wan Kenobi attacked innocent Rebels tried to destroy the galaxy and choked Padme to death. He is not meant to have sympathy from fans like us.😒
Like no wonder Vader is hard on officers, if they fucked up, Vader had to answer to Palpatine and this is one of them fuck ups that Vader had to endure
Dont feel bad because anakin turned for his lust for power and his ego not just for padme because think about how dumb is the reasonning for mass murdering the entire jedi temple with padawans, all his former jedi friends and younglings would padme want him still? Hell no . Anakin was unstable mentally and dumb
Throughout this story arc, the things Vader endured from Sidious just made me think if Vader questioned himself in his decision to join Sidious years ago. In MY VIEW, I took the inner turmoil of Vader as actually asking himself was it worth it? He did, now more than ever hate his Master, and knowing he was in arms reach of his Son and could call out to him through the Force gave him a level of hope, strength, and belief that he could finally leave the Emperor’s side and finally act on his plans he kept hidden for so long.
He absolutely questioned it. Once he found out that his children he created with Padme had survived, it made him realize that he became a sith for nothing. His newfound inner desire to save Luke from the emperor is what kickstarted his transition back to the light side.
Padme was the reason he was drawn to the dark side however palpatine knew his love for her could be a double edged sword. Now it pulls him back to the light.
Palpatine has nothing been a hidden cancer to the galaxy & after witnessing him having his two troopers put Vader in the exact same spot on mustafar. 😡I’m happy that Palpatine is fallen off of a extremely high place in the Death Star, and what’s more is that I wish to see how he landed. Because I want to see him in pain & Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker will have the last laugh.
@@lordsidious666 Well Vader deserves what he got for killing Jedi including children choking Padme and killing Obi Wan the closest he had to a brother and friend not to mention he hurt and killed innocent rebels too. So I don’t think Anakin really deserves sympathy at all.
There is a legends story that was canon before the prequels where Vader still had a organic hand which Palpatine cut off as a lesson to not disobey him.
@@Darth-Desire You got it wrong. That wasn’t him beating Sidious. Beating Sidious would mean actually engaging in combat with him, not grabbing him from behind while he’s shooting lightning at Luke. It’s pretty simple to understand, it’s like you grabbing a liquor bottle and coming up behind a man while he’s doing whatever and smashing it on his head and then saying you beat him in a fight.
@@Darth-Desire You’re changing the argument now. I’m talking about how the two characters didn’t fight in episode 6 and now your talking about fighting fair and doing whatever it takes to win a fight. Nowhere did I mention anything about how to win a fight. Again, I’m talking about Vader actually engaging in combat. It’s really not a hard thing to understand.
@@Darth-Desire Well now we’re going back to my original comment. Personally, I definitely believe Vader could’ve been a lot stronger as a sith if not for his demons and if he could’ve overcame them but I don’t believe he could beat Sidious in saber combat or by using the force. I’ll just say this, if Vader could defeat Sidious he would’ve done so. He wanted to kill Sidious when he found out that Luke was his son , he wanted to kill Sidious in episode 5 when he told Luke that he can destroy him so overthrowing Sidious was definitely on his mind and yet it never happened because Vader knew damn well he could not take on Sidious.
Well let's think about it. One of the reasons Vader never truly tried to challenge him is because his Suit is sensitive to force Lighting. On top of that Palpatine mentally abused Vader anytime he could. So despite being extremely powerful and arguably the greatest duelist ever, he was still ALWAYS doubting himself. He rarely truly believed in himself. So when it comes to the force Vader would have likely lost an encounter but if he are talking about a lightsaber duel, vader could have beaten him actually beaten him. And I am not talking about a half assed trainings duel like they did in the canon but if Vader truly would have tried to kill him.
If Darth Vader couldn’t use force lightning because it would damage him, and that’s what killed him in return of the jedi… then how did Palpatine’s lightning not kill him
So did Vader somehow see Padme saying "there's still good in him" but not see the twins being born, which happened seconds before that? If he did it would break continuity, as he's not supposed to know about Leia till ROTJ. I like these extra bits of info we get from books and comics but they do get precariously close to messing with cannon sometimes.
It would've been better if Vader got so enraged that he choked Mas Amedda and the red guards and tossed them out the window. Then slammed Sidious into a nearby wall, cracking it. Palpatine would cackle then break out of his grip and force choke Vader as Mas Amedda crawled back in managing to survive. Palpatine would then crush Vader's limbs and dump him on Mustafar.
WAIT! If Vader watched the videos left on Polis Massa, then he would've have learned that he also had a daughter. But as we all know he doesn't learn that fact until the end of ROTJ. Sounds like a SW plot hole.
Great video, but I don't agree and don't like this story at all. Even if the Emperor manipulates Vader (we all agree on this point), he shows him some "respect" in RoTJ. Remember the many times he calls him "my friend". Those stories, made to be "insane" have no sense (to me) according to what is showed in the Original Trilogy. The old canon, as showed in Shadows of the Empire was so much consistent, showing this "respect" the Emperor gives to Vader but also Vader's fear of him, without all this fantasy...
Palpatine (after being thrown down the reactor shaft): I knew I had this coming! I pushed Vader too far.
"Put me down, you heathen! (Are we good, is this a bit?)"
Palpatine:"seems like somehow i will respawn"
@@Leywaaaa “Somehow, I’ll return!”
The 2019 film should've been named Return of the Sith
@@JonDundas10 OH! VADER!
Yikes…Vader was forced to relive the most painful moment that disfigured him on the same spot. Cut and burned…twice…damn…😞
Oh please have no sympathy for Vader. He murdered lots of Jedi killed his former Jedi master and friend Obi Wan Kenobi attacked innocent Rebels tried to destroy the galaxy and choked Padme to death. He is not meant to have sympathy from fans like us.😒
@@adamgoncalves1591 who cares
@@end_musix1636 Have no sympathy for Vader!😡
Palpatine truly is the villain of Star Wars
I bet if anakin could see this far into the future, he would of let Mace kill palps and not go through all of this, twice...
No shit
Damn, I Feel Bad For Anakin/Vader. Palpatine Torturing Him For Failure, Etc
That’s the Sith’ way
@@BrandonNicholasShinobiI Know That. I’m Just Saying I Feel Bad For Anakin/Vader Because He Turned To The Dark Side For Padme
Like no wonder Vader is hard on officers, if they fucked up, Vader had to answer to Palpatine and this is one of them fuck ups that Vader had to endure
Dont feel bad because anakin turned for his lust for power and his ego not just for padme because think about how dumb is the reasonning for mass murdering the entire jedi temple with padawans, all his former jedi friends and younglings would padme want him still? Hell no . Anakin was unstable mentally and dumb
He killed children before ALL of this, so no. He deserves far more.
This comic was throughly good. Really nice way to tie the 3 trilogies together. (Even if the sequels were poorly planned) really good though
You realize that screenwriting is mostly about making it up as you go, right?
@@gamestation2690jeez. Tough room.
Youre videos are awesome. Thank you for creating and sharing this content 🙏
Thanks for watching my stuff! 🙏🙏🙏
Throughout this story arc, the things Vader endured from Sidious just made me think if Vader questioned himself in his decision to join Sidious years ago. In MY VIEW, I took the inner turmoil of Vader as actually asking himself was it worth it? He did, now more than ever hate his Master, and knowing he was in arms reach of his Son and could call out to him through the Force gave him a level of hope, strength, and belief that he could finally leave the Emperor’s side and finally act on his plans he kept hidden for so long.
He absolutely questioned it. Once he found out that his children he created with Padme had survived, it made him realize that he became a sith for nothing. His newfound inner desire to save Luke from the emperor is what kickstarted his transition back to the light side.
@@fredricgreenblott4169 yea he literally tried and succeeded at killing palptine he definitely questioned it after seeing Luke
Padme was the reason he was drawn to the dark side however palpatine knew his love for her could be a double edged sword. Now it pulls him back to the light.
Palpatine has nothing been a hidden cancer to the galaxy & after witnessing him having his two troopers put Vader in the exact same spot on mustafar. 😡I’m happy that Palpatine is fallen off of a extremely high place in the Death Star, and what’s more is that I wish to see how he landed. Because I want to see him in pain & Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker will have the last laugh.
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@@lordsidious666 Well Vader deserves what he got for killing Jedi including children choking Padme and killing Obi Wan the closest he had to a brother and friend not to mention he hurt and killed innocent rebels too. So I don’t think Anakin really deserves sympathy at all.
I bet most of the worst of the Sith Lords would've done something pretty similar to Vader. It all just depends on the level of brutality. Great video.
Great story, and narration. May The Force Be With You ⚔️
The fact that Palpatine calls Vader his friend is rather twisted and ironic.
Friends don't do what he did. Talk about the audacity!
There is a legends story that was canon before the prequels where Vader still had a organic hand which Palpatine cut off as a lesson to not disobey him.
Damn!
I really don’t see how anyone thinks Vader can beat Sidious,whether it be saber combat or the force. Vader in the suit never stood a chance.
@@Darth-Desire That wasn’t him beating him or getting the better of him.
@@Darth-Desire You got it wrong. That wasn’t him beating Sidious. Beating Sidious would mean actually engaging in combat with him, not grabbing him from behind while he’s shooting lightning at Luke. It’s pretty simple to understand, it’s like you grabbing a liquor bottle and coming up behind a man while he’s doing whatever and smashing it on his head and then saying you beat him in a fight.
@@Darth-Desire You’re changing the argument now. I’m talking about how the two characters didn’t fight in episode 6 and now your talking about fighting fair and doing whatever it takes to win a fight. Nowhere did I mention anything about how to win a fight. Again, I’m talking about Vader actually engaging in combat. It’s really not a hard thing to understand.
@@Darth-Desire Well now we’re going back to my original comment. Personally, I definitely believe Vader could’ve been a lot stronger as a sith if not for his demons and if he could’ve overcame them but I don’t believe he could beat Sidious in saber combat or by using the force. I’ll just say this, if Vader could defeat Sidious he would’ve done so. He wanted to kill Sidious when he found out that Luke was his son , he wanted to kill Sidious in episode 5 when he told Luke that he can destroy him so overthrowing Sidious was definitely on his mind and yet it never happened because Vader knew damn well he could not take on Sidious.
Well let's think about it.
One of the reasons Vader never truly tried to challenge him is because his Suit is sensitive to force Lighting.
On top of that Palpatine mentally abused Vader anytime he could. So despite being extremely powerful and arguably the greatest duelist ever, he was still ALWAYS doubting himself. He rarely truly believed in himself.
So when it comes to the force Vader would have likely lost an encounter but if he are talking about a lightsaber duel, vader could have beaten him actually beaten him. And I am not talking about a half assed trainings duel like they did in the canon but if Vader truly would have tried to kill him.
If Darth Vader couldn’t use force lightning because it would damage him, and that’s what killed him in return of the jedi… then how did Palpatine’s lightning not kill him
I read Lords of the Sith and it is fascinating that Vader remembered Anakin Skywalker as he was entering the atmosphere of Ryloth.
This looks hard AF
Palpatine literally roasted Vader here...
It’s my head canon that I feel this was the first tiny doubt that Vader started feeling for palps.
Sidious should have been killed by the “Thousand (lightsaber) cuts” technique… falling into a reactor was too lenient for him.
I wonder why after all this Vader didn't decide to avenge Palpatine at any opportunity and any cost.
So did Vader somehow see Padme saying "there's still good in him" but not see the twins being born, which happened seconds before that?
If he did it would break continuity, as he's not supposed to know about Leia till ROTJ.
I like these extra bits of info we get from books and comics but they do get precariously close to messing with cannon sometimes.
How did he actually escape afterward ? Did he use the force to float himself to his castle and patch himself up there
Epic!
Thanks Aron 🙏🙏🙏
@@RetneysHolocronhow's your year going so far?
Wizard.
Please make a part 2
Bro!. Ur awesome!. I love ur videos... that scenario is super fucked up!.. I never knew!..But ur so informative...
Doesn't sound canon
seems like Disney
It would've been better if Vader got so enraged that he choked Mas Amedda and the red guards and tossed them out the window. Then slammed Sidious into a nearby wall, cracking it. Palpatine would cackle then break out of his grip and force choke Vader as Mas Amedda crawled back in managing to survive. Palpatine would then crush Vader's limbs and dump him on Mustafar.
WAIT! If Vader watched the videos left on Polis Massa, then he would've have learned that he also had a daughter. But as we all know he doesn't learn that fact until the end of ROTJ.
Sounds like a SW plot hole.
Darth Vader's 2020 comic book is good, but nowhere as great as the 2017 one.
The 2017 series is my personal favorite
It wasn't torture, it was a proper Sith education
Great video, but I don't agree and don't like this story at all.
Even if the Emperor manipulates Vader (we all agree on this point), he shows him some "respect" in RoTJ. Remember the many times he calls him "my friend".
Those stories, made to be "insane" have no sense (to me) according to what is showed in the Original Trilogy. The old canon, as showed in Shadows of the Empire was so much consistent, showing this "respect" the Emperor gives to Vader but also Vader's fear of him, without all this fantasy...
Vader needs to suffer in order to hammer home a cheap Jesus allegory. I can't overstate how much I despise the Chosen One shtick.
@@helenwhs I agree, I prefered the old time when Vader turned back to the light "just" to save his son... Much more impact than a prophecy.
Is this cannon
Yes!
@@RetneysHolocron oh ok thanks
What?
Yes 🤝
If the Darth Vader series is to be shot, this story should definitely be taken as a basis.