Jelle, if you do happen to get fruit in time, it will not have viable seeds without a male persimmon. You could possibly find someone who has a male tree and get a dormant cutting to graft onto one of the trunks/branches of your female tree. Persimmon trees are easy to graft, I've had some of the greatest grafting success with them (after buds have swollen.)
Awesome. I am from Brazil and I also have a persimmon here. What I have learned is that they don't take drought very well. There are several varieties considering the flower/fruit issue. People that sell them here in Brazil not always know exactly the variety considering the flower/fruit issue. I was succeful leaving a big root that I pruned planted. It started budding out and is a new tree now.
@GrowingBonsai interesting! I'm from the Western Cape. I stay on the coast, so it doesn't get as hot as Kruger, so I am able to keep a few more tree species.
I collected some D. viginiana fruits that fell after a storm... a native persimmon in my area, South Carolina... gonna try to germinate the seeds. It also prompted me to inspect my Princess Persimmon that is in a 1 gallon nursery can... 5 feet tall!!! So I'll be bumping that up ti a 3 gallon pot, and cutting some of the sucker growth that has exploded. There are even roots in the ground under the pot... I'm glad I checked, so I owe a tip of the hat to you!!!
I have marked a native (Texas) persimmon sapling on my property for digging late winter/early spring. The fruits are smaller than Japanese persimmon but the leaves are large. It will be an experiment but probably not an excellent bonsai. I also have many jujube saplings, though never saw this tree used for bonsai.
I've only seen Persimmon done by a few Japanese TH-camrs, Kimiko from Kimiko's bonsai has a couple that she uses to breed, male and female versions. So cool trying species like that, would love to get my hands on a pair of those
I have a collected American Persimmon with a multi trunk like yours but it's fruit (if female) will be bigger more the size of a medium crabapple so not too big, if not I will graft female scion to the trunks. You probably already have heard this but a great way to propagate your princess persimmon is from root cuttings! I was watching at 10:51 and was like "Jelle nooo! don't remove the root!" 😆
I’ve also heard they don’t need a male but everyone I know with princess persimmons that produce a ton of fruit have a male in their garden. I got a male and now have fruit every year. Hopefully one of the seedlings is a male!(you will know in 13-16 years!😂)
@@bricker918 One of the seedlings should be male. But yeah. Which ones! Persimmon forest? am fairly sure that even if it can fruit without, with a male it will be better.
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Jelle, if you do happen to get fruit in time, it will not have viable seeds without a male persimmon. You could possibly find someone who has a male tree and get a dormant cutting to graft onto one of the trunks/branches of your female tree. Persimmon trees are easy to graft, I've had some of the greatest grafting success with them (after buds have swollen.)
That is such a sensible idea! I had not thought about doing this. I love it!
Love the enthusiasm about the sprouting seeds and the flower buds coming along. I can relate. Congratulations on all the new tiny plants!
Thanks so much! It starts with appreciation for the plants, and ends with an ancient tree. And all steps are enjoyable!
Great to see you working on a species I had not seen before and also being so philosophical about a failed expereiment. Well done! 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! I feel you need to learn from every failure, and you can grow and improve that way!
Awesome. I am from Brazil and I also have a persimmon here. What I have learned is that they don't take drought very well. There are several varieties considering the flower/fruit issue. People that sell them here in Brazil not always know exactly the variety considering the flower/fruit issue. I was succeful leaving a big root that I pruned planted. It started budding out and is a new tree now.
Thanks for the tips!
Great video so far, I got a cup of tea in my left and my phone in my right. Keep up the good work! Love from all the way in South Africa 🇿🇦
😊 God bless you sir!
ooohw.. South Africa! So great! I spent months in north Kruger at one point, studying Mopane chemistry!
@GrowingBonsai interesting! I'm from the Western Cape. I stay on the coast, so it doesn't get as hot as Kruger, so I am able to keep a few more tree species.
@@aidencapps God bless you too!
Great video ! I like how you maximize everything and dont let anything go to waste.
:) It really is an addiction to propagate!
Truly stunning!
Thank you! Cheers!
I collected some D. viginiana fruits that fell after a storm... a native persimmon in my area, South Carolina... gonna try to germinate the seeds. It also prompted me to inspect my Princess Persimmon that is in a 1 gallon nursery can... 5 feet tall!!!
So I'll be bumping that up ti a 3 gallon pot, and cutting some of the sucker growth that has exploded. There are even roots in the ground under the pot... I'm glad I checked, so I owe a tip of the hat to you!!!
Love escape roots!
Great research work👍
Many many thanks
I have marked a native (Texas) persimmon sapling on my property for digging late winter/early spring. The fruits are smaller than Japanese persimmon but the leaves are large. It will be an experiment but probably not an excellent bonsai. I also have many jujube saplings, though never saw this tree used for bonsai.
Interesting! I think I have seen one or two, but it is similar to full size apples: The scale mismatch quickly reduces the bonsai-feeling.
Your videos showing progression over 12 - 18 months are fantastic. Please keep making them. Cheers from Australia.
Thanks, will do! I have a few in the making. Where in my second home country do you live? Uunfortunately, will not make it there this year.
@@GrowingBonsai I’m on the north shore of Sydney. If you come to Aus for “Bonsai”, it’ll be great to see your demos etc. cheers Emil
I've only seen Persimmon done by a few Japanese TH-camrs, Kimiko from Kimiko's bonsai has a couple that she uses to breed, male and female versions. So cool trying species like that, would love to get my hands on a pair of those
I am still after a male plant, which would probably help. But agreed they are rarer outside of Asia.
Always good stuff
Love!
How do you over winter persimmon? Can they freeze?
I need to verify as it is a new species for me. I was told it is slightly frost hardy
I have a collected American Persimmon with a multi trunk like yours but it's fruit (if female) will be bigger more the size of a medium crabapple so not too big, if not I will graft female scion to the trunks.
You probably already have heard this but a great way to propagate your princess persimmon is from root cuttings! I was watching at 10:51 and was like "Jelle nooo! don't remove the root!" 😆
Also from our native persimmon Diospyros virginiana I have 0% success rooting twig cuttings.
It is odd though! I did want to try and grow it. But.. Next repot I can retry!? Any tips?
👍👌🙂
Glad you enjoyed!
he Jelle zijn die eetbaar?
I do think so. Have not tried them, but in principle, yes. Do not act upon this answer though..
I’ve also heard they don’t need a male but everyone I know with princess persimmons that produce a ton of fruit have a male in their garden. I got a male and now have fruit every year. Hopefully one of the seedlings is a male!(you will know in 13-16 years!😂)
@@bricker918 One of the seedlings should be male. But yeah. Which ones! Persimmon forest? am fairly sure that even if it can fruit without, with a male it will be better.
Those seeds on that plastic pot are just for the video then to the trash 😅 how much you paid for the tree?
@@Book20244 why do you say these seedlings are for the trash?
А может ты ресать будешь?
I am not sure what you would want me to cut
Gaaaaf!
Such a cool species!
Eerste
You win my gratitude!