I've spoken with people within Intel who think UB is a nut job and a bit embarrassed that he seems to be an Intel fanboy, I get the feeling they wish UB was pro-AMD 😅 When you're so cringe no one wants you.
They also LOVE to speak about AMD. It feels like every reviews (on Intel or Nvidia products) needs to include a rant about the famous "AMD top marketing"
I've seen the error of my ways. That's an average of User Rating (which I guess doesn't have relevant data on that site) and Market Share, which by now is naturally very low. Still, it's a funny comment, I'm leaving it anyway and no one can stop me.
I really glad more and more people aware of Userbenchmark's immaturity and blatant bias. Keep enjoying all the Ls you're gettingt, UB just like your daddy Intel currently getting.
Well they're right. Buy amd now and intel will go bankrupt and die. Then amd will have monopoly and we all know how that ends with nvidia. So for the future of cpus, buy intel.
@@kerkertrandov459more like Buy whoever makes best products on budget and HOPE that the Rival company keeps their shit together and gives decent competetition in the market so that noone becomes monopoly
@@princerawat4297 u mean like the overpriced 9800x3d? Or the 7700x that loses to the 14700k in both gaming and productivity while costing basically the same?
at this point I wonder if the entire employee-pool of AMD has slept with Userbenchmark's owner's mother, sister and goldfish. I don't see anything else to justify this level of delusion.
@@J-Kimble I'm figuring at this point they're delirium has probably caused them to lose a substantial amount of money in the stock market and that's causing the current ramp up in aggressiveness, I would assume whatever losses they've taken would be offset by Nvidia at least
the same fanboys that years back were calling people stupid for not buying Intel only and hoping Intel would become a monopoly to fuck them over harder, are now crying about needing to buy intel so AMD doesn't become a monopoly(won't happen anyway cause more players coming to market anyway, get fucked Intel)
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 cpus you can look at game benchmarks or productivity you can use the cpu-monkey website for r23 scores. gpus use techpowerup
Not possible I'm afraid. Nobody can ever love anything or anyone as hard as UB loves Intel. I don't think my own mother loves me as much as UB loves Intel.
Hey i came to laugh at UB too BUT the 285K is okay like it's a step in the right direction for intel in the efficiency zone however i knew that AMD is going to clean house when it was not at least on 14900KS levels but eh, i also said in 2021 that Intel should up the cache on all their cpus using the monolithic die's cause if they were close in cache then the need for 6ghz boosts, ultra high voltage etc. would not be needed BUT intel did their own thing shooting themselves in the foot like bad. I want a system from both side so i hope things improve for intel and that UB still cries cause even then i think AMD wins.
@@EBMproductions1amd does win and they always will. They also choose power efficiency my only problem is 7800x3d bottle necks a 4090 severely as is so I don't see a point for me upgrading to bottle neck with a 9800x3d once 5090 drops with its sexy 36gb ram I shouldn't bottle neck anymore
@@NekoSinonTv not true 10th gen, 12thgen, 13th gen all for a time period beat out AMD they just made huge mistakes and slowly got clobbered. And man the 9800x3d is the best bet unless your gonna wait muchhhh longer then you expected 🤣
@@AJ-happydadThose are scalpers, you deluded Intel fanboy. You’re confusing scalpers with fans. Most gamers buy a good CPU like the 9800X3D for their build, and don’t scalp a CPU for money.
i still dont get why that site doesn't suffer from 24/7 cyber attacks or just people trolling them. I mean ridicule is one thing and pointing out how garbage their bias is, but this just straight up misinformation. Every single AMD product suffers from the lies and on google they are often the number one result. Mindboggling really.
@b0mberr330 Yes, it is. I’ve know plenty of people who have went with intel because of their bias over the years. It’s silly that AMD haven’t taken them to court.
This piece of site convinced me to get 7700x instead of 7800X3D. (I was already determined to build AMD pc) I didn't read the b-s below and just looked at the numbers. When I got the pc, I learned that I made a mistake. I'll curse that site owner to stubbing his toe on a table every single morning.
This site once seemed like a good idea, being able to compare every part of your computer with the rest of the world seemed pretty cool, that was 80 years ago.
@@futuzait is still the easiest place to get benchmark comparisons. It has slant in the reviews and importance of different performance aspects both in terms of which ones show up first and how they are weighted for overall scoring. If you know what you are looking at, you can ignore the slant.
@@yahm0n if you know what you're looking at. You're not looking at UserBenchmark at all. Period. You're using Passmark or people who literally dedicate their youtube channels to benchmarking games with new hardware releases.. there's a ton of those.
You can use the benchmark itself and keep your own database. The test itself isn't flawed, it's how they contort the data that is. I have no horse in the AMD-Intel Race. Never did. I get what I need based on what I can afford. If it's AMD, cool. If it's Intel, cool. I type this on an AMD laptop. My battle station is Intel. Have to say though, I am really eyeing up that 9800X3D. A chip that has more performance than a 14900k without any of the degradation issues is really appealing.
UserBenchmark was right on one thing: you don't NEED a $500 CPU for gaming, you can always get a 9600X for $240 and have better performance than a 14600K without the risk of it imploding.
I'm running a 5600X and it's wonderful for gaming. It was running a little hot at first but that turned out to be my fault, my cooler wasn't making great contact because I'm a brainlet and this was my first time building a PC.
I'm really tempted to upgrade my 3600 to 5700X3D. How big of a difference is it in 4k? I've been using Ryzen 5 3600 with RTX 3080 for about 4 years now, and I wonder if the X3D is worth it.
@pohlondrej if you have around 200 euro/usd, go for it. You will not regret at all. Make sure to research how exactly to bios update your motherboard. It is a great CPU. I've got 5800X last year for 80 euro used so I am good enough.
@@Effect-Without-Cause For now. It's gonna get even better. There's gonna be a 16-core version of this, and that's not even mentioning the rumours that AMD might be working on an X3D Threadripper line.
I mean the UI is very easy to understand and use with a bunch of convincing enough numbers, if only the owner is not a brain dead fanboy trying to win the love of intel
I'm pretty surprised cuz I thought that was just a one and done stupid statement they made couple generations ago, I didn't think that they would keep this up
@Shahzad12357 tbf, I used them a lot when I was new to the PC space. I noticed they were insanely biased once I saw everyone praising the 3600 for gaming, and they were the only ones saying to skip it for an Intel cpu.
@@Shahzad12357 I know, but suing them will only bring more attention to it and in turn make even more clueless people learn about them. Additionally UB would use the lawsuit to spread attention that AMD is trying to silence them. Be like Steam, do nothing and let the opponents make the mistakes.
They even have a dedicated rant info dropdown option in all their pages on why Reddit hates them 😅😅 It says "why does userbenchmark have a bad reputation on reddit" and their answer is "Marketers operate thousands of reddit accounts. Our benchmarks expose their spiel so they attack our reputation." Bro, I don't think marketers even touch a cesspool that is Reddit 😅😅
i have seen comments, this year saying the numbers on their database are helpful, and that the forums are helpful, but the bs written there will never let me go there and confirm that
Nice to see more people realizing the kind of people that's behing User Benchmark, the PC comunnity as a whole deserves better, not conspiracy theorists that manipulate results (is the 14900K really 7% more energy efficient than the 9800X3D in gaming? you sure? 😅) and reviews based on their own opinions and biases.
I don't wanna sound mean or disrespectful towards anyone on the spectrum but by golly, any guy that can get so wholeheartedly invested in a computer parts brand to the point he will concoct all sorts of narratives to justify his love of the brand at the same time he has the hyper-focus to maintain a whole ass website just for that endeavor alone, that's not a ruse, this is not a high-level troll, this is the genuine work of someone who just happened to be obsessed by the blue of intel instead Sonic's, am not diminishing him or anyone with the "tism" but that does make you obsess with dumb shit (generally blue shit).
The problem is some people online will use UB as a reference on what to buy because they are not aware of their bias. I am not a fan of both blue and red, whenever I need a cpu ... I want the best bang for my buck because the computer I buy aint cheap to begin with. Once I purchase I wanna use it up to 5 yrs or more if upgrades are possible
Ultimately he is right, you dont need the absolute best cpu for gaming. But the way he goes about it... I discovered userbenchmark on my own before I knew about the memes, this is hillarious
tbf there are types of games that actually benefit a lot from that. RTS, a lot of Sims and so on. FS2020 for example benefited a lot from the 7800X3D's cache compared to the 14900k back then. You dont need the best components in general but everything has its benefits. In the end its all about how much money you want to spend on your hobby
57% of gamers, according to the steam hardware survey, play on 1080p. Yet this website claims that 1080p gaming benchmarks don't show "real world scenario" performance. How delusional can one be?
*UB doesn’t understand the first thing about benchmarking:* * Testing at 2160p the game is (usually) GPU bound which is useless in a CPU review. * Testing at 1080 resolution (or lower) makes it trivial to show if the game is CPU bound.
@@Borizz183 You're wrong. Many people will use a 9800X3D at 1080p, e.g. strategy/simulation enthusiasts, and competitive/esports gamers. A ton of games benefit from extra cache even if you don't have a high-end GPU, and plenty of people who play those games don't remotely care about graphics quality or resolution.
@@Zarnubius That's incredibly insulting to vindictive women. Many of them have legitimate reasons to be vindictive, and most of them don't spread blatant misinformation and conspiracy theories.
Man I haven't looked at that site since I realised it was utter bollocks about 10 years ago, I thought it was just uninformed nonsense but didn't realise the person was mentally unstable
Went back to AMD with the 7800x3d last June, and also picked up a 7900GRE (my first amd gpu) with no regrets here!! Btw UB, my 7800x3d cost me 203$ in June with the amd bundle from Microcenter. 😎
“Intel's marketing team remain asleep at the wheel", presumably after going through the effort of anonymously funding userbenchmarks. It's pretty impressive how long they have gotten away with essentially libel towards AMD without getting sued or at least uncovered.
@@SafetyKitten Top result on google when you search "this cpu VS this cpu". Most people won't even get to the writeup at the bottom of the page. Even if UB goes too far off the deep end in the writeup most people won't see it, they're great marketing for Intel to use against the less informed crowd. I don't see a world where they're not funded by Intel.
@@SafetyKittenIntel has done worse things to undercut AMD, like bribing OEMs not to feature AMD processors. It's 100% compatible with Intel modus operandi to fund UB. I would be not surprised at all.
The sad thing is they are probably not even payed, some of these outlets would just shill out of pure tribalism, like DF goes out of their way to explain away Xbox-es shortcommings but nitpicks the smallest things when it comes to Sony.
imagine not everyone is living in us or euro zone to get good salary and product prices, for me spending 280 usd is equivalent to 25% of my entire salary and i can not afford that, not even willing to do that. because its money wasted anyway, my 7y old setup plays EVERYTHING just fine.... cope harder that your empty life needs upgrades...
@@ciszaiogien See 'upgrades' doesn't sound that scary and expensive even outside US/EU, when you're just changing your CPU, like people jumping from Ryzen 1600 to Ryzen 5600 without changing anything else, cause it's the same relatively cheap AMD's AM4 platform.
Nah, neurodivergent would get into providing spreadsheets and graphs comparing the sample size of the games benchmarked, labeling which games are CPU bound, I/O bound, GPU bound, performance under Win10 vs Win11, what effect RAM speed has on frame rate, etc. :-) 🤓
Yes it will, as Intel has become corrupt to the point of incompetence. It is good for the consumer if more competent, less corrupt competition fills the room left by Intel.
Intel is an important company to the United States from a strategic point of view. For x86, the only foundries are TSMC (for Apple, Nvidia, Qualcomm and everyone else) in Taiwan (threat from China) and Intel in USA. US will never let Intel go bankrupt and intervene if they have to.
No one should be fanboy-ing this hard for any company, let alone a 100 billion dollar corporation. If Intel released a CPU that was of superior value/performance to the 9800X3D, I'd be all for it. Remember, competition is GOOD folks.
@@arch1107 Yeah I dunno, before I'd always go for intel for example but now I want to get ryzen when I upgrade. Perhaps this will be a catalyst for intel to make their own Ryzen style revolution, now that would be cool
@@mrmerfeo4320 this was a copy of ryzen, they used tiles that are nothing more but chiplets, glued together they sort of promised ssomething like this in 2017, but also one chip over the other it had to be done by tsmc because they couldnt make it work the same was 12th gen, look where it ended they are blaming now bios, firmware, tsmc internally i bet intel has never been good at that style of progress in terms of time, it too amd 5 years to lick their wounds and come up with ryzen, intel saw ryzen officially in 2017 and knew rummors since 2015 ot 2016 there is no such thing this time, or their copy of chiplets work, fast, or they are done in fact, they are done, or samsung or qualcom or amd buys them or it goes bankruptyou are seeing the end of a era or a lucky hit momnet, that is not happening
@@mrmerfeo4320 for some reason amd never bothered suing them, no idea why, there is enough material to destroy that place like 10 times over, this has been happening for over a decade basically
X3D CPUs are expensive, but they do deliver! Personally, I prefer buying the non 3D version and invest the money on GPU. BUT, I'm a budget oriented consumer (I bought the 5700X on sale a couple weeks ago). UB need to go back to school and learn how to type arguments, cuz they have none. Their text is completely unintelligible.
You have to give it to him. It takes DEDICATON to maintain this level of fanboyism over such a long time. I haven't witnessed this level of brand loyalty since 6th grade.
Nah, real hardware enthusiests go to Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed. It’s the average consumer who doesn’t know any better and doesn’t ask questions or do additional reserch that tries to use Userbenchmark.
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I've spoken with people within Intel who think UB is a nut job and a bit embarrassed that he seems to be an Intel fanboy, I get the feeling they wish UB was pro-AMD 😅 When you're so cringe no one wants you.
💀
You know its bad when even Intel themselves thinks low of UB
🤣🤣 Even Intel don't want him! That's hilarious
Unwanted child😂
@@IlMemetor72 UB reddit "owner" got banned at Intel Reddit 🤣
User Benchmark is the best example of changing the topic.
They literally always go from comparing CPUs to comparing GPUs.
Deflection, shifting goal posts, ad hominem. You name it, they do it.
They also LOVE to speak about AMD. It feels like every reviews (on Intel or Nvidia products) needs to include a rant about the famous "AMD top marketing"
"Nvidia dominates AMD in GPU market... while Intel GPUs are stomped by both!"
“Yes the CPU is better, but you see, it isnt, because the GPU that costs half as much isnt”
to comparing market shares
Effective Speed: +20%
Average Score: +24%
Value & Sentiment: -1918%
The unbiased Userbenchmark strikes again.
The nice to have is plus infinity tho at least
the value and sentiment is now -125%.
that's almost a +1800% improvement
I've seen the error of my ways. That's an average of User Rating (which I guess doesn't have relevant data on that site) and Market Share, which by now is naturally very low. Still, it's a funny comment, I'm leaving it anyway and no one can stop me.
@@eisenklad thanks Steve.
Is everything he's yapping about just wrong then? I don't follow much about cpus so idk
I really glad more and more people aware of Userbenchmark's immaturity and blatant bias. Keep enjoying all the Ls you're gettingt, UB just like your daddy Intel currently getting.
Well they're right. Buy amd now and intel will go bankrupt and die. Then amd will have monopoly and we all know how that ends with nvidia. So for the future of cpus, buy intel.
@@kerkertrandov459more like Buy whoever makes best products on budget and HOPE that the Rival company keeps their shit together and gives decent competetition in the market so that noone becomes monopoly
Holy shit, its you
@@kerkertrandov459 I knew a douche like you would just have to reply opposite of what the facts are.
@@princerawat4297 u mean like the overpriced 9800x3d? Or the 7700x that loses to the 14700k in both gaming and productivity while costing basically the same?
UserBenchmark be raging so hard, they could single-handedly raise a room's temperature.
Almost as much as an Intel CPU.
This time, there’s no oxidation 💀
I imagine them eating Ben & Jerry's ice cream Thermal Paste flavor with rgb while writing their copium articles
Room's temperature? I'm starting to believe they're the cause of global warming...
not only raise room's temp. but make it a fking oven or sauna
@@atlanf1 Windows 11 ice cream is a lot more fitting.
"Spending more on a gaming cpu is often pointess"
Simulation, strategy, & open world games: bruh
Escape From Tarkov who's none of the above but still requires the best CPUs:
Intel flagship: bud don't make me dig in my already lowest point.
you forgot almost all the online and competitive games
Literally any use besides gaming : bruh
literally me rn
man that military grade copium Userbenchmark has sure looks tempting ngl
at this point I wonder if the entire employee-pool of AMD has slept with Userbenchmark's owner's mother, sister and goldfish. I don't see anything else to justify this level of delusion.
"military grade copium" 😄😄😄😄😆🤣😂😂😅🤣🤣🤣
👍👍👍
@@J-Kimble I'm figuring at this point they're delirium has probably caused them to lose a substantial amount of money in the stock market and that's causing the current ramp up in aggressiveness, I would assume whatever losses they've taken would be offset by Nvidia at least
@@J-Kimble😂😂😂😂
Carefull, you might start glowing red or worse... blue
The copium is strong with them
Reality Deflection Shields : Online : *1000 % Power*
holy shit it's serj
It's not *just* coping, it's also wrong - R 7 9800x3d excells at 0.1% and 1% lows.
@@justADeniexactly, got it for 4k gaming and the 1% lows are absolutely fantastic
the same fanboys that years back were calling people stupid for not buying Intel only and hoping Intel would become a monopoly to fuck them over harder, are now crying about needing to buy intel so AMD doesn't become a monopoly(won't happen anyway cause more players coming to market anyway, get fucked Intel)
someone needs to interview whoever runs UB, i cant even tell if they're a troll or actually this stupid
They are paid by NVidia.
@@user-if9pp4vg7g to shill Intel??
@@user-if9pp4vg7gFair. I was about to say that would be Intel but I don't think they have money to spare right now. 📉😂
Oh Boy, Im convinced that you never meet the "NO ONE NEEDS MORE THAN 4 CORES" during "glorious" tail end of 14nm+++++ era.
:-D
@@poloziki9990 14nm+++++ is the most stupid name I've ever seen from a multi billion dollar company
Uselessbenchmark
Not totally useless though, it's always fun to watch their meltdown 😂
What's a good alternative?
🤣😅
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 LMAO everything else is a good alternative
@@themonsterunderyourbed9408 cpus you can look at game benchmarks or productivity you can use the cpu-monkey website for r23 scores. gpus use techpowerup
Will I ever be loved like UB loves Intel?
One can only dream.. 🥲
Word on the street is that the love isn't reciprocated, so UB might be more in line with an insane stalker/"number 1 fan" than anything else.
Not possible I'm afraid.
Nobody can ever love anything or anyone as hard as UB loves Intel.
I don't think my own mother loves me as much as UB loves Intel.
@@thefilthycasual448 Yeah no thanks Jesus can keep his love I just need me a 9800X3D
Maybe they dont love intel, they just hate amd that much
I'm patiently waiting for the day when UserTreebark gets absolutely Lisa Sued for defamation.
Nah that's just giving him more ammo.
It's just like troubadours in french medieval times. We don't get rid of CPUUB because he's great to make fun of
At this point it's more likely Intel is the one suing
Lisa Su-ed 😂😂
Unfortunately his rants are so opinionated that they can't be regarded as fact.
intel was distracted getting blown by Userbenchmark they forgot how to make a good cpu
He must have been throat goat to make their team miss work.
Hey i came to laugh at UB too BUT the 285K is okay like it's a step in the right direction for intel in the efficiency zone however i knew that AMD is going to clean house when it was not at least on 14900KS levels but eh, i also said in 2021 that Intel should up the cache on all their cpus using the monolithic die's cause if they were close in cache then the need for 6ghz boosts, ultra high voltage etc. would not be needed BUT intel did their own thing shooting themselves in the foot like bad. I want a system from both side so i hope things improve for intel and that UB still cries cause even then i think AMD wins.
@@EBMproductions1amd does win and they always will. They also choose power efficiency my only problem is 7800x3d bottle necks a 4090 severely as is so I don't see a point for me upgrading to bottle neck with a 9800x3d once 5090 drops with its sexy 36gb ram I shouldn't bottle neck anymore
@@NekoSinonTv not true 10th gen, 12thgen, 13th gen all for a time period beat out AMD they just made huge mistakes and slowly got clobbered. And man the 9800x3d is the best bet unless your gonna wait muchhhh longer then you expected 🤣
That fact Intel has banned UB from r/Intel for years suggests the relationship is very one-sided. 😅
Totally forgot to think about Userbenchmark when 9800X3D released, lol.
Same I thought he was done with this behavior, fortunately he's not and we get to laugh about it
Same, im out of that drama since prev problems
Nah, had to go there first thing! I know it gives them page hits and I shouldn't, but I just couldn't resist the comedic value.
Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?
Their mental gymnastics would win gold at the olympics..
Nah,if limited to the tech sector yeah but overall they didn't even come close to those hard cope on Twitter
You mean paralympics
Thats guiness world record tier right there mate
Narh there is some serious competition here bruh
It's funny how they flip all their arguments when it's Intel at the top of the performance charts.
I'd behave the same way if AMD kidnapped my entire family and held them for ransom for 3 months
The UB lore goes deep
Best explanation I've seen in this entire comments section 🤣
This is not ok what AMD is doint with his family! #freeubownerdontknowhisnamedontreallycarefamilyASAP
True, many offline sellers uses userbench data to miss sell the intel based laptops
brand loyalty is cancer
Tell that to the amd fan boys that are up selling a chip that sells for 800 dollars right now. For 20 fps in 1080p
@@AJ-happydad you're not so happydad aren't you?
@@AJ-happydadThose are scalpers, you deluded Intel fanboy. You’re confusing scalpers with fans. Most gamers buy a good CPU like the 9800X3D for their build, and don’t scalp a CPU for money.
@@jonissesmarchadesch7025 To be fair: Scalpers sell them, but fanboys (with the patience of a toddler) who buy them.
@@AJ-happydad you're not fooling anyone with this burner account, UserBenchmark
I lost it when I saw that review. It literally just ignores the cpu and talks about other companies for absolutely no reason.
Squirrel! /s
The 285K review is even better. He doesn't even say anything about the 285K itself.
i still dont get why that site doesn't suffer from 24/7 cyber attacks or just people trolling them. I mean ridicule is one thing and pointing out how garbage their bias is, but this just straight up misinformation. Every single AMD product suffers from the lies and on google they are often the number one result. Mindboggling really.
Not worth the time
@b0mberr330 Yes, it is. I’ve know plenty of people who have went with intel because of their bias over the years. It’s silly that AMD haven’t taken them to court.
misinformation? more like disinformation
@@randomwaffler yes, blatant lying is disinformation
This piece of site convinced me to get 7700x instead of 7800X3D. (I was already determined to build AMD pc) I didn't read the b-s below and just looked at the numbers.
When I got the pc, I learned that I made a mistake. I'll curse that site owner to stubbing his toe on a table every single morning.
The Usersbenchmark itself has no courage to compare it to U285K
They aren't even Intel fans just certified AMD haters.
Saved family member from using UB once; we all can be heroes in our own little way
This site once seemed like a good idea, being able to compare every part of your computer with the rest of the world seemed pretty cool, that was 80 years ago.
I mean that's still a good idea, unfortunately though that's not what you get, instead you get a raging Intel fanboy lunatic
@@futuzait is still the easiest place to get benchmark comparisons. It has slant in the reviews and importance of different performance aspects both in terms of which ones show up first and how they are weighted for overall scoring. If you know what you are looking at, you can ignore the slant.
@@yahm0n The problem is that even the points system itself has been severely manipulated, to most people it is not obvious that the site is BS
@@yahm0n if you know what you're looking at. You're not looking at UserBenchmark at all. Period. You're using Passmark or people who literally dedicate their youtube channels to benchmarking games with new hardware releases.. there's a ton of those.
You can use the benchmark itself and keep your own database. The test itself isn't flawed, it's how they contort the data that is. I have no horse in the AMD-Intel Race. Never did. I get what I need based on what I can afford. If it's AMD, cool. If it's Intel, cool. I type this on an AMD laptop. My battle station is Intel. Have to say though, I am really eyeing up that 9800X3D. A chip that has more performance than a 14900k without any of the degradation issues is really appealing.
UserBenchmark was right on one thing: you don't NEED a $500 CPU for gaming, you can always get a 9600X for $240 and have better performance than a 14600K without the risk of it imploding.
I'm running a 5600X and it's wonderful for gaming. It was running a little hot at first but that turned out to be my fault, my cooler wasn't making great contact because I'm a brainlet and this was my first time building a PC.
Or 7500F with performance slightly worse than a 245K but comes at less than HALF the price
I bought a Ryzen 5700x3D today (wanted to upgrade from 5600g). Can't wait to enjoy it!
@@kenshinhimura6280 you're going to love it. I upgraded from a 5600x this year to the 5700x3d. Its an awesome cpu.
@@kenshinhimura6280 you will
“Games are generally limited by the GPU” tell that my R5 3600, got an instant FPS Boost with the 5700x3D lol
I'm really tempted to upgrade my 3600 to 5700X3D. How big of a difference is it in 4k? I've been using Ryzen 5 3600 with RTX 3080 for about 4 years now, and I wonder if the X3D is worth it.
@@pohlondrej Even at 4K for today's standards 3600 is weak imo and 5700X3D will be a nice upgrade for your use-case
@pohlondrej if you have around 200 euro/usd, go for it. You will not regret at all. Make sure to research how exactly to bios update your motherboard. It is a great CPU. I've got 5800X last year for 80 euro used so I am good enough.
oof, that's two mistakes, should have listened to UserBeachmark and bought some intel
@@pohlondrej 4K has nothing to do with the CPU
Wonder how those "200 dollar priced Intel cpus" perform compared to similarly priced amd cpus then? 🤔
by crashing, forcing os manufacturer to step in and tweak the setup so they can work without frying themselves
7500F is by far the best cost per frame CPU, while 9800X3D is by far the best no compromise CPU. AMD owns Intel at both ends.
Well the first thing, they are not 200 dollar CPUs 😅
@@Satyajit-vm8nx AMD 7500F is currently $165 and beats the $175 priced Intel 13400F by 10-30%
@@Effect-Without-Cause For now. It's gonna get even better. There's gonna be a 16-core version of this, and that's not even mentioning the rumours that AMD might be working on an X3D Threadripper line.
UserBenchMark are such intel simps its insane
I don't think they are Intel simps or fanboys. I think they just hate AMD. They do it to AMD GPUs as well. Has to be an ex AMD employee.
User benchmark; clearly an ex of someone at AMD who is unable to get over the breakup and unable to move on.
"almost unparalleled" so not unparalleled at all then 😂 Almost the best, it came third... out of 3.
2:29 where was the audio clip came from?
Maybe Ceo ore intel Fan boys 😊
UserBenchmark was my go to for comparing products just realized few years ago how biased they are.
is there a better alternative? hard to use/support a site so biased
I mean the UI is very easy to understand and use with a bunch of convincing enough numbers, if only the owner is not a brain dead fanboy trying to win the love of intel
Because they weren't biased until a few years ago haha
Looks like userbenchmark admins have disliked.
UserBenchmark has been Intel fanbois and AMD haters for yeeears. I'm really not surprised.
Over 10yrs now, it's crazy that site is still up.
I'm pretty surprised cuz I thought that was just a one and done stupid statement they made couple generations ago, I didn't think that they would keep this up
Im an intel fanboy and im getting a 9800x3d. I only use it for gaming so i dont care about the 285ks better performance on everything else.
Still wondering when AMD is going to sue UB. They are asking for it at this point.
No need for it, noone takes them seriously
Buddy, if you are not in .Murica, lawsuits are only your money waste.
@@berghwilliam people with less knowledge do
@Shahzad12357 tbf, I used them a lot when I was new to the PC space. I noticed they were insanely biased once I saw everyone praising the 3600 for gaming, and they were the only ones saying to skip it for an Intel cpu.
@@Shahzad12357 I know, but suing them will only bring more attention to it and in turn make even more clueless people learn about them. Additionally UB would use the lawsuit to spread attention that AMD is trying to silence them.
Be like Steam, do nothing and let the opponents make the mistakes.
They even have a dedicated rant info dropdown option in all their pages on why Reddit hates them 😅😅
It says "why does userbenchmark have a bad reputation on reddit" and their answer is "Marketers operate thousands of reddit accounts. Our benchmarks expose their spiel so they attack our reputation."
Bro, I don't think marketers even touch a cesspool that is Reddit 😅😅
The fact people is still visiting UserBenchmark is beyond me. Hardware Unboxed already existed and he did the test much better
i have seen comments, this year saying the numbers on their database are helpful, and that the forums are helpful, but the bs written there will never let me go there and confirm that
With how ridiculous they act you would think they were paid by intel or something but no, they're just doing it for the love of the game 💀
thanks to this video i don't need to visit that site to laugh
Nice to see more people realizing the kind of people that's behing User Benchmark, the PC comunnity as a whole deserves better, not conspiracy theorists that manipulate results (is the 14900K really 7% more energy efficient than the 9800X3D in gaming? you sure? 😅) and reviews based on their own opinions and biases.
Wait - what?
Doesn't the 14900k suck down twice as much power AT LEAST and still lose at the fps counter? 🎉😂
Fun fact, even Intel hates UserBenchMark... so yeah... CPU Pro is so cringe that even the company he simps for hate him.
You should read their FAQ, it's hilarious
I don't wanna sound mean or disrespectful towards anyone on the spectrum but by golly, any guy that can get so wholeheartedly invested in a computer parts brand to the point he will concoct all sorts of narratives to justify his love of the brand at the same time he has the hyper-focus to maintain a whole ass website just for that endeavor alone, that's not a ruse, this is not a high-level troll, this is the genuine work of someone who just happened to be obsessed by the blue of intel instead Sonic's, am not diminishing him or anyone with the "tism" but that does make you obsess with dumb shit (generally blue shit).
I don't think it's autism, I think it's pride, you get so stuck in this battle online with other people it starts to become your whole world
The problem is some people online will use UB as a reference on what to buy because they are not aware of their bias. I am not a fan of both blue and red, whenever I need a cpu ... I want the best bang for my buck because the computer I buy aint cheap to begin with. Once I purchase I wanna use it up to 5 yrs or more if upgrades are possible
This is schizophrenia.
i hate Sonic-a deep, inky black hatred-but i'd rather have gotten the Sonic autism if it meant not getting the Intel fanboy autism ngl
@@EliyahuDesmond It could be autism comorbid with something else. Possibly several things. Have you ever seen chris-chan?
It's nice to see people post anti-User benchmark content, this is long overdue. Respect!
I think AMD cuckolded Userbenchmark 10 years ago or something.
Lisa Sue used to beat up the owner of UB and take his lunch money in elementary school.
How much does Userbenchmark pay Google to stay on top of every search result. They’re spending their life savings just to stay relevant.
SEO is truly the worst
Ultimately he is right, you dont need the absolute best cpu for gaming. But the way he goes about it...
I discovered userbenchmark on my own before I knew about the memes, this is hillarious
tbf there are types of games that actually benefit a lot from that. RTS, a lot of Sims and so on. FS2020 for example benefited a lot from the 7800X3D's cache compared to the 14900k back then.
You dont need the best components in general but everything has its benefits. In the end its all about how much money you want to spend on your hobby
@nicz7694 Of course
@nicz7694 in fact the game we are making is currently also cpu bound :D
There’s one very persistent amd hater on userbenchmark. This Cpupro comments everywhere
I'm almost certain that's the owner.
That's the owner of the site.
57% of gamers, according to the steam hardware survey, play on 1080p. Yet this website claims that 1080p gaming benchmarks don't show "real world scenario" performance. How delusional can one be?
*UB doesn’t understand the first thing about benchmarking:*
* Testing at 2160p the game is (usually) GPU bound which is useless in a CPU review.
* Testing at 1080 resolution (or lower) makes it trivial to show if the game is CPU bound.
but i mean they dont really show real world usage
to be fair...
Absolutely NO ONE is gonna be using a 9800x3D and only play at 1080P.
@@Borizz183 Found the person who has never watched or participated in "pro" eSports. /s
@@Borizz183 You're wrong. Many people will use a 9800X3D at 1080p, e.g. strategy/simulation enthusiasts, and competitive/esports gamers. A ton of games benefit from extra cache even if you don't have a high-end GPU, and plenty of people who play those games don't remotely care about graphics quality or resolution.
I actually want the guy who wrote that accountable. I want him publicly apologize for the stupidity he wrote.
AMD marketing > eew, how dare they!
Intel marketing > yes daddy, spank me sir!
Why is a benchmark site talking about marketing in a cpu review? Should rather focus on hard data rather than on biased gossip from intel vs amd war
it's literally run like a vindictive woman.
@@Zarnubius That's incredibly insulting to vindictive women. Many of them have legitimate reasons to be vindictive, and most of them don't spread blatant misinformation and conspiracy theories.
Who the hell use AMD and Intel, we use cyrix processor.
And we press turbo button when playing games.
we are all too old
Man I haven't looked at that site since I realised it was utter bollocks about 10 years ago, I thought it was just uninformed nonsense but didn't realise the person was mentally unstable
Im convinced User Benchmark has all their money invested in Intel and are doing whatever it takes to save their stocks 🤣
They have deals with notebook manufacturers that have deals with intel.
Went back to AMD with the 7800x3d last June, and also picked up a 7900GRE (my first amd gpu) with no regrets here!!
Btw UB, my 7800x3d cost me 203$ in June with the amd bundle from Microcenter. 😎
203?
That's damn good value!
They're gonna really lose it when the 9600X3D releases.
it may looks like it's obvious to us tech guys
but Userbenchmark is the reason mom and pops still buys intel fr
“Intel's marketing team remain asleep at the wheel", presumably after going through the effort of anonymously funding userbenchmarks.
It's pretty impressive how long they have gotten away with essentially libel towards AMD without getting sued or at least uncovered.
Indeed. And NVIDIA is no better or different.
if you seriously believe Intel actually likes UBM in any way let alone pays them, you must be out of your mind
@@SafetyKitten Top result on google when you search "this cpu VS this cpu". Most people won't even get to the writeup at the bottom of the page. Even if UB goes too far off the deep end in the writeup most people won't see it, they're great marketing for Intel to use against the less informed crowd. I don't see a world where they're not funded by Intel.
At this point, there's no way intel is funding him to write this because it isn't helping them
@@SafetyKittenIntel has done worse things to undercut AMD, like bribing OEMs not to feature AMD processors. It's 100% compatible with Intel modus operandi to fund UB. I would be not surprised at all.
i wonder how much intel pays for those reviews
The sad thing is they are probably not even payed, some of these outlets would just shill out of pure tribalism, like DF goes out of their way to explain away Xbox-es shortcommings but nitpicks the smallest things when it comes to Sony.
they don't, the guy who wrote all that is mentally challenged, and intel themselves have blocked them on social media.
None, UBM is famously banned on r/intel.
@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989that's what they want you to think
@@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 Intel does not run r/intel and even if they do, that's exactly what I would do to make it look like I don't pay em.
Imagine if amd ends up buying intel somehow, userbenchmark will pluck out their eyes
imagine not everyone is living in us or euro zone to get good salary and product prices, for me spending 280 usd is equivalent to 25% of my entire salary and i can not afford that, not even willing to do that.
because its money wasted anyway, my 7y old setup plays EVERYTHING just fine.... cope harder that your empty life needs upgrades...
@@ciszaiogienok fanboy
@@ciszaiogien See 'upgrades' doesn't sound that scary and expensive even outside US/EU, when you're just changing your CPU, like people jumping from Ryzen 1600 to Ryzen 5600 without changing anything else, cause it's the same relatively cheap AMD's AM4 platform.
@@ciszaiogien Insert "Jim Carrey, what are you talking about? + who are you talking to?" gif.
Amd nvidia and intel should all merge so we can easily have super computers fr
the Q-anon of CPUs
Its Q, not Q-anon, and at least he made some decent posts between all the garbage
When you put every skill points in UX design and 0 into critical thinking...
My 7800X3D & RTX 4080 Super is the best combo ever, it's like having a mixed baby, both families gonna agree
That's my combo and I'm really happy with my choice.
Rocking the same, not a single complaint with it :D
Heck yeah, bro! 😎🤜🤛😎
7800x3d and 4070 ti super here, very happy with it!
7800X3D and 7900XTX FTW!
I will never understand why some folk would humiliate themselves for a brand.
The April Fools that never ends
So, which drugs are they using at UB? Or someone just escaped from a mental health facility or is not taking their therapy.
Basically, they're either taking drugs or not taking drugs
@dainiusvysniauskas2049 It's bad both ways.
I'm still waiting for my payment from AMD's marketing team
the new monster hunter world is somehow CPU bottlenecked xd
I'm going to watch some 14600k bench videos
oh my god userbenchmark is so cooked
Wtf is this review? The 1 percent lows on the 9800x3d outright BEAT THE AVERAGES of some cpus
imagine saying cpu upgrade isn't important in 2024
Honestly I think whoever behind UserBenchmark must be a neurodivergent because no one right in the mind would act like this.
Yeah maybe, at the very least he operates on 90% feelings instead of facts.
Stop crapping on non-NTs, we're enjoying this comedy show just as much as you are. 😂
This man is not neurodivergent he is mentally ill
Nah, neurodivergent would get into providing spreadsheets and graphs comparing the sample size of the games benchmarked, labeling which games are CPU bound, I/O bound, GPU bound, performance under Win10 vs Win11, what effect RAM speed has on frame rate, etc. :-) 🤓
I have a lot of trust in Intel battlemage gpus since intel did a very good job with the arc a700 gpus
That's actually sadder than Veilguard fans, and that's saying something
Intel is Jesus and you are crucifying him by buying AMD CPU's~ UserBenchmark's next review probably
you know intel gpus in a bad spot when even this guy says they are asleep at the wheel (but we can't have a amd gpu W so nvidia gotta be better)
When I first saw how biased they are, I pushed every person I knew in the IT space to Passmark. At least their benchmarks and scores are accurate.
Spoiler : if Intel dies, it will not be good for the consumer.
Intel dominates on OEM market, AMD on DIY market.
Yes it will, as Intel has become corrupt to the point of incompetence. It is good for the consumer if more competent, less corrupt competition fills the room left by Intel.
Intel won't die. Calm down. They have a monopoly over the corporate market.
@@The_Only_Juan Which is worrisome. How can inferior products dominate an market.
Especially for Laptops AMD's architectures just make more sense.
Intel or Nvidia being a monopoly isnt good for the consumer too.
You know its special when small youtubers like Hardware Unboxed comment on this situation.
1:13 so if that happens then we must face high prices anyway from AMD. So let this stupidity lives on to maintain some rage and competition.
Intel is an important company to the United States from a strategic point of view. For x86, the only foundries are TSMC (for Apple, Nvidia, Qualcomm and everyone else) in Taiwan (threat from China) and Intel in USA. US will never let Intel go bankrupt and intervene if they have to.
No one should be fanboy-ing this hard for any company, let alone a 100 billion dollar corporation. If Intel released a CPU that was of superior value/performance to the 9800X3D, I'd be all for it.
Remember, competition is GOOD folks.
this is paid by intel, who would be doing this for free?
Why fanboy over a brand when both cpu's do the same thing essentially, everyone should strive for the best equipment on the market at any price point.
the problem here is intel itself, give them money brought us here
i agree with you, but intel is the reason situations like this happen
@@arch1107 Yeah I dunno, before I'd always go for intel for example but now I want to get ryzen when I upgrade.
Perhaps this will be a catalyst for intel to make their own Ryzen style revolution, now that would be cool
@@mrmerfeo4320 this was a copy of ryzen, they used tiles that are nothing more but chiplets, glued together
they sort of promised ssomething like this in 2017, but also one chip over the other
it had to be done by tsmc because they couldnt make it work
the same was 12th gen, look where it ended
they are blaming now bios, firmware, tsmc internally i bet
intel has never been good at that style of progress
in terms of time, it too amd 5 years to lick their wounds and come up with ryzen, intel saw ryzen officially in 2017 and knew rummors since 2015 ot 2016
there is no such thing this time, or their copy of chiplets work, fast, or they are done
in fact, they are done, or samsung or qualcom or amd buys them or it goes bankruptyou are seeing the end of a era or a lucky hit momnet, that is not happening
@@arch1107 Interesting info, I guess they are really cooked this time when they get sued and all that lol
@@mrmerfeo4320 for some reason amd never bothered suing them, no idea why, there is enough material to destroy that place like 10 times over, this has been happening for over a decade basically
At this point i really think they’re just trolling.
The salt mines go deep.
Basically:
AMD: Spiderman
Userbenchmark: JJJ
who's userbenchmarks? been building since 1998 and i've literally never heard of them.
Userbenchmark is banned on the Intel subreddit. You can't get any lower than that. 😂
Userbenchmark: *"HoW DaRe YoU proving me wrong?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"*
X3D CPUs are expensive, but they do deliver!
Personally, I prefer buying the non 3D version and invest the money on GPU. BUT, I'm a budget oriented consumer (I bought the 5700X on sale a couple weeks ago).
UB need to go back to school and learn how to type arguments, cuz they have none. Their text is completely unintelligible.
To trust userbenchmark for CPU is like to trust Linus for tech tips.
Trusting advice from UB is like trusting a sanitation worker to perform open heart surgery.
I feel like that's an insult to Linus.
more like trusting linus to not drop something
Typical
The problem is UB has good SO, so it ranks pretty high on any search engine whenever you try to find benchmarks.
so accurate
You have to give it to him. It takes DEDICATON to maintain this level of fanboyism over such a long time. I haven't witnessed this level of brand loyalty since 6th grade.
Almost as fanboy-ish as me and the boys and our favourite chewing gum brand. In elementary school.
Finally a solid Win
whatever they're on
must be legal because they sure are on a lot of it
Userbenchmark hate amd
There's copium, then there is military grade copium, then there is God tier copium, and then there is USERBENCHMARK COPIUM.
remember this is where 80% of pc users go for info on cpu's, makes the pc master race look dumb
Nah, real hardware enthusiests go to Gamers Nexus or Hardware Unboxed. It’s the average consumer who doesn’t know any better and doesn’t ask questions or do additional reserch that tries to use Userbenchmark.
@@KatherineFtw bet you get mods from nexus mods LOL
@@KatherineFtw If you look up CPU vs CPU, most of the time userbenchmark is at the top, or near the top. That's what normies will do.
@@DosonTheGreat I know, normies also won’t usually think about bias or second guess what they are seeing.