Mihawk had a GREAT analysis on Luffy during Marineford (quoting off my personal memory): "One by one he turns enemies into allies. That man possesses the most dangerous power in the world."
İt's 99.9% correct. The wisdom god part was Wrong. But he sad that Luffy might be the sun god which is called nika. So mythical Zoan model sun/fire god... ergo model nika. İt's 99.99999% true
A little thought here: Imu is looking at the big Straw hat which lies in a chamber. Next to that chamber however there are many other chambers aswell. Many say that the big strawhat is from joyboy himself who was a giant. But what if, everyone of Joyboys crew had a strawhat themselfes. And the giant strawhat is just one of his crewmates who happened to be a giant. In all the other chambers are also Strawhats from Joyboys Crew. The only strawhat missing in this collection is the one of Joyboy himself, carried by Luffy.
Roger was the first one to wear the strawhat like it cant be a coincidence that the design is the same there has to be a connection between roger n joyboy
Well that's new. I "like" it--like, as in, newly heard such twist. It's not great but at least, it's not the kind of dumb theories. If it's true, then Joyboy's crew is the one who most deserve to be called "Strawhats Pirates".
I think luffy's fruit is the one that got renamed by the Government and isnt about rubber but instead being a mythical sun god monkey. It would make much more sense since his Gear 4 looks very familiar to the Sun God Nika and his abilities like Red hawk and Gear 2 works with heat. Also Luffy's fruit looked like the Yami Yami no mi from Blackbeard but its marks were reversed. So it could be also a counterpart, like Darkness and Light/Sun.
I like the idea of the fruits holding a certain will or personality, but i dont like the idea that luffy is special only because he ate the fruit and has someone elses will. Hes special because of who he is, what hes done, what he believes. Not the fruit he ate. Or at least thats what I want.
This got me thinking about Enma for some reason. What if DFs only awaken after the Will or Personality or Demon or whatever in the fruit decides it likes/trusts/is impressed by the person who ate it? Like how Enma is testing Zoro's ability to wield it by draining his Haki, but DFs have to be more passive. Just hanging around, maybe pushing the DF User's attitudes around a bit, and watching what they do and how they think. I've thought for a while now that maybe every person who has eaten a specific DF leaves a part of themselves behind in that DF, to become part of the collective "personality" of the fruit. The next user absorbs some of these personality traits. This would be why Luffy felt happier after eating the fruit, and why Sabo felt like Ace's spirit was calling for revenge through him after he ate the Mira Mira no Mi. It could also have something to do with why Blackbeard specifically wanted the Yomi Yomi no Mi. If it was Rocks' fruit, and he admired Rocks, he could literally be making Rocks a part of himself. If that's the case, then this amalgamated personality would be the entity that is judging the fruit user. Could be that some fruits have been eaten by so many people with wildly different ideologies that this entity is pure chaos and is incapable of coming to that judgement. That's why awakenings are so rare. You have to not only have the talent and creativity to use that awakened power, but also be deemed worthy to even access it in the first place by the collective consciousness that lives inside you now. This consciousness might be too busy arguing with itself to bother, or just too damned picky. This jibes with your comment by making it about both how special Luffy is as a person, as well as how special the fruit he ate is. The fruit can only reach its full special potential *because* of who Luffy is, what he's done and what he believes.
Likely just him inhereting a certain goal subconsciously from the previous users. The most special thing about him is that he fears nothing and his incredible stubbornness, and that is him, and what made him special, himself. But I kind of feel the same way, me just want funny rubber mean beat up mythical creatures to unconscious state >:(.
recent chapters, ***spoilers*** i feel like it has to be rocks who was previous owner of this devil fruit that is why luffy is naming his attacks after roc's name roc gun roc Gatling etc.. it would also make sense why bb wants it too because it has to be special fruit in some sort or form for wg wants it for themselves as well
@@ANunes06 That's a nice theory, especially on Blackbeard's Yami Yami no Mi as Blackbeard has even stated that the fruit was the "most evil" devil fruit. That wouldn't make sense that a power would be "evil" as that depends on people's different morals and why even mention it? He most likely knew and wanted the previous users' personality traits in order to reach a certain goal, He even took the hassle to becoming a pirate and searched for years and years. P.S (Yomi Yomi is Brook's revive revive, Yami Yami is Blackbeard's dark dark and Mira Mira is Katakuri's sister, Brulee's mirror mirror, and Mera Mera is Sabo and Ace's flare flare.)
Ok hear me out, could Shanks have purposely gotten his arm bitten off while saving Luffy from that sea monster? Shanks was strong even when Luffy was a kid and if he stole the fruit from CP0 then he very likely had haki and would've been able to avoid an attack that would bite his arm off, but maybe he lost his arm on purpose to somehow brand this memory into Luffy's mind and really inspire him to meet him in the future as a pirate since he already made such a big sacrifice for him because he believes in him. This basically guarantees Luffy's persistence in becoming a pirate that can compare to someone like Shanks. Also Shanks always speaks of this incident as "making a bet on the future", etc when people ask him what happened to his arm
Idk why but I thought this was pretty obvious. Like this can't be considered a theory and is more like a fact cause ain't no way shanks lost his arm to a random sea beast
This is a very accepted therory. Shanks seeing the potential on luffy, and decides to teach him a lesson. As he understands his era is ending, he doesn't need that arm. And that correlates to comment to whitebeard (i think), that he bet the arm on the new age
The idea of Luffy not being "the chosen one" but becoming the chosen one by accidentally eating a fruit he thought was a snack would be absolutely brilliant. Ohara's theories give me goosebumps every time!
But that coincidence of him eating it still makes him “the chosen one.” And that, in my extremely biased opinion as a diehard OP fan, is lame. I didn’t want Luffy to be a chosen one. Him “happening upon” a special DF is such low-tier writing. I really hope Oda blows us away and makes it something else. I’d prefer the Gomu Gomu just being a normal fruit and not special at all. I don’t wanna hear “it was the same fruit Sun God Nika ate 800 years ago!1!1! That’s so…just not what this story needs. Meh. Not creative at all and I hate that big TH-camrs are all floating this idea, and all at the same time too 🤷🏼♂️ they’re all piggybacking off each other. It’s boring.
@@fullydiminished but it's obvious he is "the chosen one" literally the son of dragon, grandson of garp, most likely carrying joyboy's will, is a D, can hear the voice of all things and etc.
@@fullydiminished facts bro. I don’t want it to be that at all. Worst most lazy trope in writing especially in manga. Always drawn to luffy because he has a goofy seemingly low tier power that he makes work. He’s not goku, he’s not naruto, he’s not ichigo, he’s luffy. But then I remember one piece started so long ago and him being a chosen one with a crazy powerful fruit the whole time is 100% a 90s-00s manga move
It pretty much explains the entire premise in that one page with the world leaders talking about the fruit, how it was given a false name and hasn't actually awaked in centuries. Apparently it takes a lot of effort to awaken it, Luffy had to almost die several times to get to this point. But its pretty obvious what's happening right now, he's awakening it finally and everyone's theories will be confirmed.
It's funny how Shanks and his crew left the fruit in sight and Luffy ate it by sheer coincidence. He didn't really intented to eat it, it was just the first thing he saw 😂
Shanks's explanation really does make perfect sense. We saw Luffy almost drown because of his devil fruit. In case they shipwreck or get thrown overboard, a pirate absolutely needs to be able to swim in the overwhelming majority of cases. Not everyone can save them.
@@thewho5786 Hey, man! Give spoiler warnings for the other readers! But you're right, and that's something important to note about it. Most pirates don't have that kind of backup or luck.
When shanks says “his arm… it strectches”, he sounds surprised. Maybe we’re only meant to believe that he’s surprised because luffys arm shouldnt stretch, or he’s surprised that it stretches because he anticipated the fruit to be a different one, for instance the yami yami no me like you explained. In a way id like that, since it would mean that the rubber fruit isnt actually that special, and luffy overcomes all these obstacles by using his fruit in clever ways
This guy interpreted the whole anime so accurately. Better than Katakuri did in Luffy's fight lmao. Currently, Luffy's fruit is not gum gum but hito hito model nika which can make luffy's imagination come true. Shanks was shocked seeing that luffy's arm stretches after eating the fruit, I mean Shanks is one of the most experienced pirate out there why wud he get shocked for a random devil fruit power? UNless a power like that never existed. The arm stretching thing and the rubber everything is luffy's imagination, he believed Shanks when Shanks made up a rando name and power for the fruit and he imagined it wud work that way. Even the gears, luffy is not smart enough to control his whole inner body and make it like that, he imagined it to work like that. Honestly, only luffy can make this fruit this powerful due to his mental strength and childish imagination
The theory of souls in devil fruits fits really well with the Black Beard theory where he has multiple personalities Each of his personalities can take on the soul of the devil fruit without killing him The only problem i have with that is that he has shown using both of his abilities at the same time
The gomu gomu no mi is like a hard counter to some top-tier fruits in each category. At least it counters Enel (logia), Sen Goku (shock waves from buddha form, mythical zoan), and the Gura Gura no Mi (paramecia). I could see the government wanting it just because of its ability to effectively counter powerful fruits. I'm sure there is more example of fruits its counters. The only counter to Luffy are fruits that can manipulate temperature, but now with supreme conquerors Haki, idk if those will even matter much unless it is an admiral-level opponent or higher. Example being, I don't think a character like Oven, Bill or Monet could really do any actual damage to Luffy at this point in the story.
I wouldnt say it counters those fruits necessarily. He is able to negate their abilities, but he cant do anything that that does extra damage to them in particular. I think a better example of "counter" fruits would be akainus lava fruit vs aokijis ice fruit. Still, it is nice to have
@@ryanlucht6625 Yeah I feel you. I think the mix up mainly came from me using counter and negate interchangeably without considering Luffy's offensive match up. I figure it's kind of like Dust Tornado and MST in yugioh, both counter opposing trap but in different ways (one negate the effect of the trap or spell after the card is activated and one destroys the opposing card before its use). Both can be used to counter your opponents cards, but one can be used at a higher rate, where as the other is more powerful during a specific timeframe. I guess I'm trying to say negating is still a form of countering, but the gumo gumo no mi can not be considered a "hard counter" that would be more like the example you gave. This was a winded and convoluted way to say I agree, but also I think the fact Luffy counters multiple fruits instead of just one specific one is a bonus in itself.
Could be the mythical Zoan fruit of the Monkey King, Sun Wukong. Who had the infinitely extending staff. Who killed many gods. Who was born on flower and fruit mountain. Who was regarded by some as a divine demon. Who is classically a good guy, known to represent the uprising against the elites. Maybe once awakened his hair will have magical properties and he will be able to transform into different animals or cloning himself or other tricks that Wukong used. Just a thought
The fruit is supposed to be for Ace, Shanks knew that Roger’s son is on that island, Roger mentioned that his son will be his successor, so Shanks looked for Ace, but he hasn’t met him yet so he’s been in out of the island hoping to meet Ace and give him the fruit, but by doing that, he befriended Luffy, and bcoz of Luffy’s stupidity, he ate it, then by that time, Shanks realized that he’s vision (observation haki) about the next joyboy is not Ace but Luffy since Luffy’s been saying the same thing he’s Captian said, thats why he gave the hat to Luffy… from that point Shanks was sure that its Luffy and not Ace…
My favorite theory about the Gomu Gomu is that it isn't inherently special, but that the WG needed it for their Giant experiments The fruits not special, but still very important to the WG And would explain why Shanks didn't even bother to lock the box, it's only particularly relevant that the WG doesn't have the fruit
What if they were planning to have Vegapunk pull the special property's from the fruit for the giantfication of their army but what does make the giant race so special the size and strength they possess?
Dude gomo gomo no mi is hardcounter to alot of legendry devil fruit.if you want to know what devil fruit gomo gomo no mi can counter go and scearch it by yourself
The gomu gomu fruit has the ability to copy abilities hence why luffy is able to copy abilities so easily this gets enhanced with his conquers haki when he changes into form like snake man bounce man etc all forms if I remind you copied from the monsters he trained with on the island with Raleigh I'd assume the awakening would be he could copy devil fruit abilities
It’s a really important fruit. And that’s why Shanks can easily walk and talk to the 5 elders, we still need to know what kind of promise/deal he made with them and it’s now kinda obvious that is related to the gomu gomu.
Shanks made a deal to take Luffy down , I said it before, he's like an Itachi-like character who will side with the darker side to balance peace in case Luffy gets too strong
@@oceanwavesandcocaine1129 Lmao Itachi was more a prevention guy instead of awaiting to see what would happen and then act guy, if he knew the df's abilities and how dangerous it was then he would've just let Luffy drown.
Most likely he went to talk about buggy. He told the gorosei how dangerous he is and now after some events that we don't know about yet(the shichibukai abolishment) he has risen to notoriety.
This was actually really good, at first I never liked how the gomu gomu no mi was the most powerful and stuff, but now with this new theory I love it. It makes that luffy became joyboy becuase of the devil fruit, no becuase he was "chosen" when he was born. Everyone had the chance of becoming the next joyboy but LUCKILY luffy got his hands on a really powerful one. Thanks Manu!
I hope it's the first option, where Luffy's fruit isn't really that special. Idk bout y'all but to me it's cooler that Luffy's strength isn't because he has an op fruit but because of his creativity, tenacity and determination.
Are you avtually saying this? He's going toe to toe with Kaido because of a miltitude of factors. His strength was always that. Why should it status of a fruit matyer in any way shape or form? What do you also think naruto didn't have to work for the powers he got?
@@dragon67849 look man. I'm not gonna argue/debate with u I just wanted to share my opinion, and I never said anything about Naruto. I also like Naruto and agree that he's also got his strength from tenacity and determination.
@@clownnmoment I'm not asking you to argue with me. There were just holes in your opinion from what I can tell and I picked it out. That's all. I didn't mean to be rude. But you genuinely confused me. If you still hold that opinion, you'll have my respect anyway ^^
@@dragon67849 ohhh sorry, it must've been the tone I read ur message in and I thought u was being agressive, and yeah my message definitely had holes because I didn't really think too much about it and just typed the first things that came into my mind.
I always felt Sengoku having the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu was very out of place in relation to the rest of not just Zoan fruits, but every other Devil Fruit, especially in its implementation during Marineford. He didn't really do much with it, it's almost as if it was meant to set up the possibility of similar fruits to it existing. This is definitely one of the better theories in regards to the Gomu Gomu no Mi being the renamed fruit, especially with Sengoku acting as proof that this sort of power is attainable in the world.
Personally I really hope the fruit isn't that strong. I like the idea that he's worked hard enough to make an average strength df the strongest power on the seas over he's been given the strongest power and he's just not that great at using it yet.
Originally the story was supposed to only have one fruit power. Luffy being special was always intended even if it doesn't feel like that is how the story should be written. Grandson of the strongest Marine? Son of the most wanted man? Powers accidentally gifted by the strongest ish yonko? Has all three haki / advanced. Can hear the voice of all things. You get how much more I could add here. It's a lot of MC powers that make Luffy special.
@@thewonderblunder3421 It's true he's got some strong blood and some strong people backing him. But everything else is down to willpower he's been training to get stronger since he was a small child, even conquers haki has some relation to will. Walking around with the strongest devil fruit would just diminish his accomplishments a little
I really like the idea that Shanks was actually after the Darkness fruit, I never thought about it until you brought it up but they do look very similar, cool idea!
My problem with the theory that the Gomu fruit was eaten by Roger previously is that like, wouldn't someone have recognized Luffy having eaten Roger's fruit? Whitebeard, Rayleigh, Shanks, literally anyone who knew Roger personally would have recognized the fruit instantly and would have confronted Luffy about it. Now if the fruit was eaten by Joyboy I could totally see that but Roger having eaten the fruit would make ZERO sense story wise.
What if rogers plan was to inherite his will to another person by eating a devil fruit. So on laughtale or later when he was close to get "caught" he decided to eat a random fruit to transport his will. So he never actually used his abilities and nobody knew. Thats why roger had no seastone handcuffs when he got executed
@@unendlichsexy Then he wouldnt of been able to get executed if it was the gomu gomu no mi...or any logia...or katakuri's...or buggy's..the biggest problem with this theory is if thats the case and say it was the gomu gomu no mi...why was shanks being so careless with it???
The reason shanks was so dismissive of Luffy wanting to become a pirate was because he knew the true nature of the fruit and understood that taking luffy on as a subordinate would be counter to his nature as a god of freedom. He knew he had to go out on his own of his own free will
Giving further evidence to Ohara's theory: The 3rd option of fruit being sun god Nika makes a lot of sense if you think about Doflamingo, op op fruit and awakening rules. We know it takes a lot of time to awaken a devil fruit. Most we have seen awakened has had either had their fruits from childhood or is 40+ age. And Doflamingo later realizing that may have wanted to use op op fruit to transfer his personality to this possible mythical fruit owner, Luffy and then use immortal surgery to have enough time to awaken it.
The first time i heard gorosei talk about that mysterious devil fruit I immediately think it was gomu gomu no mi. I really thought luffy gonna beat kaido using awakening instead oda gave us a whole new power that never got introduced before. Maybe the reason luffy haven’t got awakening yet because he hasn’t realized that rubber is not his devil fruit true power
Though puffy being a prime candidate for the “legendary re named devil fruit” is cool and all I’m surprised nobody has taken into account the fruit being referred to is the yami yami no mi, it would make sense considering that the fruit has not been seen in a long time and that it was documented in the encyclopedia meaning that the fruits name could have been changed.
Oda didn't make Who's Who mention the Gum Gum fruit for nothing. We are meant to believe the Gum Gum fruit is special. But, a misdirect for the Yami Yami fruit would be pretty cool.
@@cremdilly7176 im hoping luffy's gear 5 awakening will be op to an extent. Blackbeard is op af rn with 2 of the strongest fruits in existence, if he learns haki I doubt anyone could beat him. I'm so hyped for blackbeard endgame villainy.
I think the fruit has all the abilities together but they have to believe in its ability. That is why when shanks said rubber he thought as rubber but when he wanted fire it had fire ability in the attack in it. Once Luffy learns the truth it would be epic.
Luffy has slowly expanding more of his body at one time. His awakening will be something like Ant Man being able to expand his body to the size of a giant with no consequences. He's been naming his gear 3 and 4 attacks with "Kong" in them. Gear 5 will essentially be a King Kong form.
Even a year later the more chapters that come out proves more and more how accurately this theory has hit. This man is different. He has to have a job as a detective or something cause this is crazy😭
3:20 i don't think Rayleigh's the only one able to coat ships, but he's the only one related to Roger who coats ships. Hachi said Rayleigh is the only one he trusts to coat ships. After all the others of the Worst Generation, as well as Caribou himself got their ships coated, and Rayleigh says that he hasn't been coating ships in a long time.
Yep true! They also mention that Rayleigh's the best ship coater that means there are others who can ship coat its just they think Rayleigh's the best one😂
None of Shanks’ crewmates are DF users, so he must’ve had another reason to steal it than using it for his own crew. Not sure if this exact theory is right but there must be something.
I feel like roux has a devil fruit since he just appeared out of nowhere on the mountain bandit's left and shot him without they even noticing, probably roux has a teleportation fruit?
@@SleepyWhistles I think that was just a yonko crew being that much better than mountain bandits. Roux and Beckman are the most visibly angry about the situation and they are both the ones who own everybody.
The fruit must be extremely hard to awaken. Only by being pushed to your limits or near death multiple times starting from the day you eat it can you awaken it. Luffy has obviously been doing both since he was a kid. Maybe Garp knew what it was and thats why he left Luffy alone in the Jungle all the time to do exactly that from the start. Now hes finally ready to awaken fighting Kaido. Sengoku has a Budha fruit maybe the gomu gomu is actually a Sun god fruit.
I do feel like it would be super cool if it turns out the fruit is super powerful but I also feel like it would kind of ruin the story because luffy is a young kid using a ridiculous power of rubber compared to enemies who have elements and can transform into God's yet he overcomes them through hard work and ingenuity which makes him a lot more special
It's already quite powerful maybe not before Haki but once he got his Haki it just became insane this fruit might be perfect for Haki they just support each other so well idk but he did become very powerful after he knew haki but that could also just be couse he has conquerers haki who knows we will see
@@walterlaten7662 the haki things is acceptable from Luffy, because he train very hard to get them and it's fair since other people also can use it(except conqueror) but if this theory in the video is proved true, Luffy will just become another special main character, there's no rubber boy fighting opponents with crazy abilities anymore. Because I remember Oda purposely use rubber as the most ridiculous power one can get.
Kaido=china(dragon) Big mom=russia(mother russia) Whitebeard=middle east(beard people) Shanks=UK(red hair) Blackbeard=africa(black) 5 elders=spain,france,australia, england,india(look at their appearance) Imu sama=pope Navy=America(navy logo) Luffy=Philippines Roger=mongols Oden=Qin dynasty Zoro=Japan Germa 66=germany Yamato=taiwan Trafalgar law=south korea Eustass kid=vietnam Acient weapon=uranus,pluton, poseidon Uranium=atomic bomb Plutonium=nuclear bomb Poseidon=poseidon torpedo Strawhat=Sun One piece=Universe Uni=one Verse=song D=dharma(universal law/truth) Will of D=will of truth Truth=?
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15:00 Gorosei states that the fruit hasn't awakened for centuries. And I remember Kozuki Toki came from nearly 800 years ago for searching someone. What if she took JoyBoy's devil fruit to gave to the man who will carry out the will of D. and brought it to the present, but fell in love with Oden and gave the fruit to Roger??
Damn that actually makes sense and maybe it could even tie into why the Roger Pirates were too early to arrive at Laugh Tale. Maybe they discovered something on Laugh Tale about how the one to arrive on time would be the one that had been both a native of the East Blue and had mastered the Gomu Gomu no Mi (or whatever it's true name is). Roger then makes sure to turn himself in in the East Blue after eating the fruit so the fruit reincarnates in the East Blue. The fruit goes thru maybe one or more reincarnation cycles in the East Blue used by those that don't have it very long, but one of it's users makes enough of a name for themselves that the World Gov't finds out about the fruit being in the East Blue. This then leads to it being in CP9's possession shortly before Shanks stole it and Luffy ate it.
I think it's either O'tama's but most likey Toki's ability. Remember the gorosei did say that it was a legendary fruit even for them. Toki travelled through time right? That explains why her ability being legendary because it was missing in action for last 800 plus years!
Is it a coincidence that Toki's name and ability are the same? And the way Toki describe here ability in the manga. She didn't even mention about the devil fruits right?
Btw, Imu sama has the parallel with Lilith and not with Ice queen as Ohara assumed. And if your reading this, you know Adam and Eve right? Eve was not Adam's first partner.
Luffs devil fruit has the ability to stretching and changing sizes of things and will be able to change elasticity of objects, this could possibly be his first awaking and explains the way tigerman could work by increasing the elasticity of his muscles and covering it with advanced armament but keeping his legs the same size meaning his speed increases dramatically and he could possibly awaken his fruit for the second time and when this happens he could have the ability to stretch things like age, this could explains why luffy can hear zunesha because the person who punished zunesha was most likely a companion of the past user of luffys devil fruit and managed to change the size of zunesha and extending her life limit and possibly permanently making her a elephant by lengthening the time limit of how long zunesha stays as an elephant (sorry for bad grammar i was typing quickly)
I think it will be the BALOON BALOON FRUIT. Giving Luffy the ability to stretch and inflate other things when awakened. Like, lets say making an elephant giant. It might also be the ancient weapon of the skies: Uranus. Its goofy enough for ODA and he would still be immune to lightning when not inflated I guess. Does that make any sense?
I like this theory I have somewhat been developing, Devil fruits seem to pass on a part of the users soul which is why Sabo said the same thing as Ace. Now Luffy says the same thing as Roger does, they both point at Sky Island the same way, and Roger told Rayleigh he wasnt going to die, I think before Roger turned himself in to the WG he ate the Gomu Gomu no Mi, He was executed in a way that being rubber won't help, The reason why the world government had it and why Shanks freaked out after Luffy ate it was because a piece of Rogers will/soul was in it
Is your name Trunks? Did you travel back in time using a time machine? WTH your prediction is ON POINT dude!! Welldone. I would give more thumbs up for this vid! great work
Quick theory: when Shanks spoke about a "certain pirate," what if the conversation was about Shanks giving the World Government his Red Poneglyph to make sure Black Beard cannot reach it easily? This twist seems interesting to me, because Shanks could have done this also to push Luffy forward, and now the Straw Hats need to "conquer" the World Government directly before going to Raftel.
@@Dominguez6 The fish-man island road poneglyph is missing, isn't it? It would make sense that Whitebeard took it (Marco inherited it) and/or Shanks now has it under protection to keep Blackbeard away.
@@Dominguez6 fourth road poneglyph( the red one) is still missing... We only know about 3 1. Zuo (minks) 2. Tata land (big mom) 3. Wano (kaido) 4. Not revealed yet Fishmen island had a black poneglyph not a red one
Really well made, dude. I have to say I dropped off from one piece during the fishmen island arc, I just found myself not enjoying the repetition of each episode. But as a whole, I’ve tried to keep up with the story because I think it’s gotta be one of the most impressive, connective, world-building stories out there. Hearing these theories makes me wonder how far ahead the creator has been since the beginning, or if it’s kinda just grown on it’s own in a way, the twists and turns coming out of the creation of each set of chapters. Really cool stuff….
I believe the government wanted the gomu gomu no mi because it would help the WG with their research in producing giants. We see that Luffy is capable of creating Giant Limbs with the fruit, so if Vegapunk were to get his hands on the fruit he might have developed the best way to make giants.
Luffy's real fruit is called the Hito Hito no Mi: Nika. It is a Mythical Zoan fruit, and it transforms its user into the 'Sun God' Nika once it has been awakened he didn't inherit it its a mythical like you said cause his final is sun god so it a mythical
@@puppymagnet8269 yea the video was made 4 months ago, and this comment was from a month ago. We had no clue of anything 4 months ago, a month ago we found out.
I'm just saying: Shanks had to have known Luffy ate a lot seeing how Luffy wanted to set sail with them. (It means they were close enough) not only did he leave the box with the devil fruit open but it was open right next to the little kid who would see a fruit and want to eat it.
think of it like this. Why was he on that island to begin with? And he was there for a while with a devil fruit he stole from the world government. I think his original plan was finding Ace and giving him the devil fruit in hope the right one was Ace. However, that was not the case he found someone else, and it just so happened to be someone who is exactly like his captain. So, shanks wagered his arm in order to instill not just the devil fruit but also the future for the new era, because we all know shanks could have ended that sea king. But luffy wouldn't have been so impacted by it. all in all, the main puppeteer for one piece right now is not imu and the world government nor akainu and the marines not dragon and the revolutionaries but Shanks hes oddly pulling the strings on everyone.
Shanks stealing the gomu gomu fruit from the world government is akin to prometheus stealing fire from the gods and giving it to the humans. So more likely the gomu gomu has some kind of connection to sun lord nika as a parallel to the prometheus story.
@@cap8032 it has... When? I haven't caught up with the new chapters yet and unlike most people on the internet I actually don't mind if someone could spoil it for me. ^^
I could definitely see something like this happening, if not a Mythical Zoan than a final form heavily inspired by the Monkey King. I could even see Luffy wielding a Bo staff that he can imbue with his rubber powers allowing it to change size like Sun Wukong’s staff. It will have to wait though because I believe gear 4th will be getting a “Tigerman” form to fight Kaido very soon.
Im a big Son wukong fan i wont lie and that would be the coolest thing ever but the only issue us it changes luffy's fighting style. Luffy is a brawler with very sharp fighting instincts if we give him a staff then he is not Luffy anymore. If we are going that route Oda needs o find a way of making him the monkey king without loosing luffy. Because we dont want to change him to a pure martial artist.
@@michaelmwanza8724 I think Luffy’s use of a staff would be totally different than it’s traditional use and even if he had a signature weapon of any kind it would be just one more tool in his proverbial toolbox. He would still revert to unarmed combat more often than not.
It's clearly that Shanks has an intention to give it Luffy, because if you see clearly the box of gomu gomu no mi has place on the table right beside Luffy. Imagine guys, if gomu gomu no mi is special and important to Shanks he didn't put the box in the obvious place that easily to stole. So the conclusion is Shanks has a plan for Luffy before Luffy eating devil fruit cause like he said to his crew that Luffy and Roger has the same dreams or goal. So maybe that's a key or the secret will of Roger to Shanks before the of his execution. That's why Shanks risked his arm to protect Luffy and to show to him that he is precious to Shanks that's why Luffy need to promise to fulfill his dream to become a great pirate in the future and leave strawhat to him..
It was already shown that luffy takes styles form animals. Luffys real devil fruit power is the power to take different forms of animals. Remember python, gorilla, etc. All attacks are forms of animal fighting styles. Puffer fish, you can find others as well and compare it with animals.
Nope, luffy started calling his attacks guns and weapons. He only started naming them after training with Rayleigh because Rayleigh used animals to train luffy
I like the idea of Luffy making something useless/powerless to something amazing/exciting , making his own miracles happen instead of being spoonfed, eventhough I like the idea of the rubber-rubber fruit being a legendary Mythical tier Paramecia type devil fruit. Maybe Oda is just juking us. Anyways it'll be a good surprise. Can't wait for Tomorrow.
Im conflicted about Luffy's devil fruit. A part of me don't want it to be special, just a rubber boy overcoming obstacles without anything inherently special to him The other part wants to see how Oda has planned this out from the get go, changing everything of how we view Luffy as a character
Some people have a theory that it would have been used in gigantification experiments. Which I find to be the best theory especially since luffy has said in gear 3rd that he had the limb of a giant.
the gomu gomu no mi could be a regular fruit that the wg mistaking as the zoan of the monkey king due to luffys name and the fact we have seen 0 previous users of the gomu gomu no mi and the wg is that paranoid that they locked it away so someone like the previous user couldnt threaten them
I think the fruit lets him control his body in any way he wants, so he believes he is rubber then he is rubber, he believes he can summon fire he does, maybe he can transform his body also in any race... Because its absurd he inflates his bones but he believes it happens so they grow like a giant ... Etc ... The government assign the name gomu gomu because stretching is the first effect on the body and its difficult to awaken because you need a child like personality, creativity and perseverance (with what seems one of the worst powers) to survive and become stronger.
Control over his body more likely, there is still potential too lile infinite stretching, giant form and the ability to strerch your will (powerful haki)
thats not how rubber works tho, the author in my opinion is using properties of rubber for luffys powers like how rubber can stretch and also be heated, can be strong and hard yet flexible and retractable. his entire body is rubber including bones just like how a lava human is lava including bones and all, its not a mind thing its a physiology thing, mind only comes into play once you begin to master and explore your abilities, when used for a long time you reach doflamingo status which is a second awakening, logia users reach 2nd awakening faster than paramecia but the end goal is to be able to change your surroundings to match your powers or your powers to change your surroundings
Whilst I would prefer that luffy's fruit was just a normal fruit that he made powerful due to his creativity, if he had a fundamental misunderstanding of what the fruit was due to it being renamed and its origin twisted, that would explain why luffy hasn't awakened his fruit despite his crazy mastery of his fruit in comparison to other devil fruit users.
Because the fruit actually requires great physical capabilities to be used effectively and after the timeskip we have been seeing that he implemented haki to make it even stronger. In all honesty luffy doesn’t or can’t rely on his fruit as much as the other users which have awakened
@@nobby5378 Yeah Luffy definitely has for a long time, especially in recent chapters, been tending away from innovating with his fruit directly and towards directly strengthen himself or his fruit powers with various haki, which could very easily explain why others who mainly focus on just their fruits awakened first. But in a way this may be a sign that Luffy has sort of reached a ceiling for his fruit due to his "perception" of what the fruit is. The next step for innovating with his fruit may be him realising its true capabilities, which would unlock the door to more fruit based abilities (and possibly an awakening) rather than just haki based power ups. Still would prefer that he was just a rubber boi tho...
Just going off the idea that we have so many DF’s with such a wide range of designs the fact that our Gomu Gomu and Yami Yami look so similar. IMO this clears a path of foreshadowing that someone could have mistook one for the other. In chapter 1 Shanks seems to know that he had the Gomu fruit, as well as when BB is talking to Ace he acts as though the Yami Yami was definitely the one he wanted soooo I haven’t an idea whom the mistake would have actually fallen on given those 2 characters don’t seem to be them.
The 3rd option would be really cool especially since this is the same arc where Kido fruit got revealed but it turned out to be the "Fish-Fish" fruit witch Kido is clearly a Dragon (gyarados) so luffy fruit awakening could be the Sun God witch was joy boy fruit originally that Roger ate, that Shanks had to steal back that Luffy ate that was meant for Ace
It's explain too why kaido was labeled also the strongest creature in sea.. it was stated that kaido is the strongest on land air and sea. But we all know devil fruits are weak on sea water then why kaido is labeled as that. And even kaido has the hobby of jumping from sky islands just to find himself how to die. I wonder if kaido jumps on the ocean why he is still alive.
The only flaw with this is Shanks wouldnt be so careless with his former captains fruit that he was planning to give to said captains son...Like thats a pretty special momento and youre just gonna leave it laying around to where a kid can eat it accidentally???
@@vanixiii5657 i mean let’s be honest though, during this time shanks was similar to luffy in his personality, he seemed pretty carefree and didn’t think too much ahead, he probably let his guard down because he trusted everyone around him and himself to protect it, not thinking that luffy would eat it
My only problem with the gumu gumu no mi being a different fruit is that when people bite into a fruit they immediately know it’s name and powers so you would think puffy would also know that the fruit is capable of more. And with the other theories I feel like that just degrades his character, instead of being his own person he is influenced by the others that ate the fruit.
Well Every Devil Fruit User is Influenced by the Previous User. It's just not a Total Mind/Body Takeover. Think of it like a More Faint Version of Kurama or any of the Other Biju
The fat guy from Shanks his crew immediatly tells him: Oy Luffy, Did you eat this. Its the gomu gomu no mi. So it would be understandable that Luffy believed him over his own instincts
Theory time: If there are parallels between Kaido and Luffy ( Kaido being the version of Luffy who couldn’t failed at being Joy Boy), then there are similarities between them and their devil fruits. Kaido’s devil fruit and the legend of the Coi fish that became a dragon (Kaido evolving his seemingly useless devil fruit into an unstoppable power), could only mean that Luffy would evolve his devil fruit somehow (possibly into Sunwukong, the monkey god???)…
Red Hawk is probably made with Haki Hardening and moving at a very high speed that the friction caused fire, it kinda works like Diable Jambe, even in the example in the anime where Luffy hits Doflamingo, it's clear that Luffy's arm turned black. Sanji also said that his Germa enhancement and Haki helped him to heat up his leg even more into Ifrit Jambe. Also turning it into Mythical Zoan (some even say that it's Sun Wukong Zoan) would just make Luffy too OP and it feels like he was given too much advantage, it would be more poetic if Luffy gets so strong despite his abiility is just being a rubber man unlike the supernatural powers of the other Yonkos. Also if it turned out to be Monkey King Zoan, it's weird that the first ability that manifested is Luffy stretching his arm, i'm pretty sure that Zoan fruits would manifest their beast forms first and then finally manifesting other abilities that the myth allows like Kaido and his fire clouds, thunders, and slicing catasthrope attacks. oh and one more reason why it doesn't need to be Monkey King Zoan is that Luffy's first name is already Monkey and sometimes acts like one too, he doesn't need extra Monkey Fruit to be even more Monkey than he already is. You can still make the connection that Luffy is Oda's interpretation of Monkey King alone with his name.
@@MrCrimsonftw sanji only produce fire as a gag, originally Sanji also has to spin to create friction for setting his leg on fire as seen on Enies Lobby
the Gomu Gomu no mi is actually not a rubber fruit, but a "Form Form Fruit" which allows the user to take any form they want, in this case luffy always wanted to be the freeest person in the world hence he is able to take any form freely. The "Form Form Fruit", or "Fōmu fōmu no mi".
One thing to note about the Gum Gum Fruit: its power is ALWAYS on, even in water. Remember the Arlong Park arc? His neck was stretched out, despite the rest of his body being underwater. Oda himself said Devil Fruit powers don't work when the user's body is at least halfway underwater. Yet Luffy's power still works despite that. Sure, he still gets fatigued and all, so it's still very dangerous for him. That said, his power still fundamentally WORKS in spite of all that, unlike every other fruit (as far as I know, anyways. It's been a long while since I watched it last).
Right? He was impressively close to the mark. And man do I want to see what Chapper's Rumble Ball would do with Luffy's Human Human Model: Nika, I expect only madness
I don't think Roger's will was passed on through the devil fruit because Luffy has another still secret dream that was also Roger's secret dream way before Luffy ate the DF.
@@adriel993 okay, come on boys, now all we need is one country where Roger shares is voice with Ted Mosby to come to the correct conclusion that, as all straw hat welders are somehow connected to him, Ted Mosby is Joy Boy.
I saw a theory once that Blackbeard is actually a Cerberus mythical zoan. Being able to eat a different power for every head. So if luffy and teach are actually 2 myth zoans . One resembling the sun and another resembling an underworld dark creature. That would actually be sick…. Nice theory bro 👍🏻
joyboy wasnt a giant, he became by using gomu gomu its gear 5 if you combine gear 2, fast pumping blood, needed to circulate fast enough with same actual blood supply into an enlargened body fast enough to nourish all the larger body parts since now blood has to travel further to reach them, gear 3, giant bones, and gear 4, giant muscles, all together make a fully formed proper sized giant, that has been foreshadowed at least 2 times before i believe in dressrosa. people in colliseum and during doffy fight stated luffy couldnt be there because they heard he is a monstrous giant, and other scoffed at luffy in gear 4, saying what? i thought he was a 8 meter tall giant, this is barely 4 meters.
That didn't happen bruh... In dressrossa people failed to recognize luffy in gear 4 because he looked so different from his wanted poster.. and people in colosseum were shocked because "lucy" suddenly started to gigantify his arms and legs outta nowhere.. ( they didnt knew he was straw hat luffy who ate gum gum no mi and instead believed him to be a normal guy with no powers hence the shock when his arms started growing 100x)
@@mustafahararwala7374 luffy becoming giant in 1045 proves nothing because what he's saying about dressrossa never happened in the story no one thought of luffy as 8m giant that's bullshit and it'll still be bullshit no matter what.. dressrossa citizens were only confused because luffy's poster has his base form picture and they were looking at G4 luffy and thinking they don't look the same
I like the theory of Luffy's DF is a zoan rather than "Oil / Fat" paramecia from Yuderon's, because we saw in the fight between King and Zoro, King stretches his head like rubber and attack Zoro, almost similar to Luffy's attack, thus probably signaling Zoan type fruit can have extra power (like Marco's healing like you mention in the video)
I feel as tho maybe he would be a combo of all 3 DF types assuming the sun god nika aspect to luffys fruit is litteral, he be a flaming haired tigerish looking stretching human that can melt u from the inside like akainu perhaps
I like latest Yuderons theory that its amber fruit,as it would fit with Nika title of sun god,because ancient greek name for amber was ἠλέκτωρ (ēlektōr) meaning "beaming Sun".
coming back after reading chapter 1044 and seeing how on point this theory was is insane
Right? Crazy chapter i love it
maybe this man was advance for a month HAHA
I came back exactly for the same reason. This teory is incredible.
Same!
Aged very very well lol
He was right in EVERYTHING. Insane observation haki.
Ohara is the best One Piece TH-camr out there, everyone else are rookies
Did people miss the part when he very clearly says he took the theory from someone else?
@@blyzer7373 yeah it’s all good though. Point is he 100% believed it and thought it was true which is good enough ig
@@oceanwavesandcocaine1129 abs be like: Rookies huh
Oda foreshadowing god
Mihawk had a GREAT analysis on Luffy during Marineford (quoting off my personal memory): "One by one he turns enemies into allies. That man possesses the most dangerous power in the world."
Not akainu or kizaru
He can turn enemies to allies just like naruto. But he doesnt use talk no jutsu to defeat them
@@winterlstorm4794 Luffy has PhD in asswhooppery
@@winterlstorm4794 thats why he is the best written anime character
@@uttkarshUwU luffy? hell no.
Bro after reading the latest chapter, it’s crazy how close u were to the truth
Crazy how he's pretty much correct
its not close. its pretty much exactly correct.
insane how he nailed it
I'm convinced he has a spy on oda 😂
İt's 99.9% correct. The wisdom god part was Wrong. But he sad that Luffy might be the sun god which is called nika. So mythical Zoan model sun/fire god... ergo model nika. İt's 99.99999% true
A little thought here:
Imu is looking at the big Straw hat which lies in a chamber. Next to that chamber however there are many other chambers aswell. Many say that the big strawhat is from joyboy himself who was a giant. But what if, everyone of Joyboys crew had a strawhat themselfes. And the giant strawhat is just one of his crewmates who happened to be a giant. In all the other chambers are also Strawhats from Joyboys Crew. The only strawhat missing in this collection is the one of Joyboy himself, carried by Luffy.
Roger was the first one to wear the strawhat like it cant be a coincidence that the design is the same there has to be a connection between roger n joyboy
Well that's new.
I "like" it--like, as in, newly heard such twist. It's not great but at least, it's not the kind of dumb theories.
If it's true, then Joyboy's crew is the one who most deserve to be called "Strawhats Pirates".
cool theory
@@Louis-gi1jp Imu is a tontatta confirmed?
Ok that would be sooo cool
I just wanna say thank you for making long work days much more interesting. Your content is the true one piece.
LMFAOOOOO!!!!!!
@@Hugo_Tate I didn’t understand his compliment lmao
means a lot! That's sort of why i started the channel, I enjoyed listening to YT during long working hours as well!
But really though, these 10 hour days are rough
That was deep mate
I think luffy's fruit is the one that got renamed by the Government and isnt about rubber but instead being a mythical sun god monkey. It would make much more sense since his Gear 4 looks very familiar to the Sun God Nika and his abilities like Red hawk and Gear 2 works with heat.
Also Luffy's fruit looked like the Yami Yami no mi from Blackbeard but its marks were reversed. So it could be also a counterpart, like Darkness and Light/Sun.
You nailed it! Unbelievable.
You deserve more than 2 likes so here have another.
lol i bet you feel like a total boss right now XD
Are you a telepath or oda’s alt account?
AWESOME DUDE!
YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!
The man's observation haki is unreal. He predicted it so accurately it's insane
I like the idea of the fruits holding a certain will or personality, but i dont like the idea that luffy is special only because he ate the fruit and has someone elses will. Hes special because of who he is, what hes done, what he believes. Not the fruit he ate.
Or at least thats what I want.
This got me thinking about Enma for some reason.
What if DFs only awaken after the Will or Personality or Demon or whatever in the fruit decides it likes/trusts/is impressed by the person who ate it? Like how Enma is testing Zoro's ability to wield it by draining his Haki, but DFs have to be more passive. Just hanging around, maybe pushing the DF User's attitudes around a bit, and watching what they do and how they think.
I've thought for a while now that maybe every person who has eaten a specific DF leaves a part of themselves behind in that DF, to become part of the collective "personality" of the fruit. The next user absorbs some of these personality traits. This would be why Luffy felt happier after eating the fruit, and why Sabo felt like Ace's spirit was calling for revenge through him after he ate the Mira Mira no Mi. It could also have something to do with why Blackbeard specifically wanted the Yomi Yomi no Mi. If it was Rocks' fruit, and he admired Rocks, he could literally be making Rocks a part of himself.
If that's the case, then this amalgamated personality would be the entity that is judging the fruit user. Could be that some fruits have been eaten by so many people with wildly different ideologies that this entity is pure chaos and is incapable of coming to that judgement. That's why awakenings are so rare. You have to not only have the talent and creativity to use that awakened power, but also be deemed worthy to even access it in the first place by the collective consciousness that lives inside you now. This consciousness might be too busy arguing with itself to bother, or just too damned picky.
This jibes with your comment by making it about both how special Luffy is as a person, as well as how special the fruit he ate is. The fruit can only reach its full special potential *because* of who Luffy is, what he's done and what he believes.
Likely just him inhereting a certain goal subconsciously from the previous users. The most special thing about him is that he fears nothing and his incredible stubbornness, and that is him, and what made him special, himself. But I kind of feel the same way, me just want funny rubber mean beat up mythical creatures to unconscious state >:(.
recent chapters, ***spoilers***
i feel like it has to be rocks who was previous owner of this devil fruit that is why luffy is naming his attacks after roc's name roc gun roc Gatling etc.. it would also make sense why bb wants it too because it has to be special fruit in some sort or form for wg wants it for themselves as well
@@sdknabeel01 roc gun?
@@ANunes06 That's a nice theory, especially on Blackbeard's Yami Yami no Mi as Blackbeard has even stated that the fruit was the "most evil" devil fruit. That wouldn't make sense that a power would be "evil" as that depends on people's different morals and why even mention it? He most likely knew and wanted the previous users' personality traits in order to reach a certain goal, He even took the hassle to becoming a pirate and searched for years and years.
P.S
(Yomi Yomi is Brook's revive revive, Yami Yami is Blackbeard's dark dark and Mira Mira is Katakuri's sister, Brulee's mirror mirror, and Mera Mera is Sabo and Ace's flare flare.)
Ok hear me out, could Shanks have purposely gotten his arm bitten off while saving Luffy from that sea monster? Shanks was strong even when Luffy was a kid and if he stole the fruit from CP0 then he very likely had haki and would've been able to avoid an attack that would bite his arm off, but maybe he lost his arm on purpose to somehow brand this memory into Luffy's mind and really inspire him to meet him in the future as a pirate since he already made such a big sacrifice for him because he believes in him. This basically guarantees Luffy's persistence in becoming a pirate that can compare to someone like Shanks. Also Shanks always speaks of this incident as "making a bet on the future", etc when people ask him what happened to his arm
Idk why but I thought this was pretty obvious. Like this can't be considered a theory and is more like a fact cause ain't no way shanks lost his arm to a random sea beast
This is a very accepted therory. Shanks seeing the potential on luffy, and decides to teach him a lesson. As he understands his era is ending, he doesn't need that arm.
And that correlates to comment to whitebeard (i think), that he bet the arm on the new age
@@rohanalaca3275 well... Theories are in fact based on evidence. An Hypothesis is an argument that could be true if more evidence is gathered
Didnt he basically use what we now call haki on that sea king? He glared at it and it ran away.
Goosebumps after reading this
The idea of Luffy not being "the chosen one" but becoming the chosen one by accidentally eating a fruit he thought was a snack would be absolutely brilliant. Ohara's theories give me goosebumps every time!
But that coincidence of him eating it still makes him “the chosen one.” And that, in my extremely biased opinion as a diehard OP fan, is lame. I didn’t want Luffy to be a chosen one. Him “happening upon” a special DF is such low-tier writing. I really hope Oda blows us away and makes it something else. I’d prefer the Gomu Gomu just being a normal fruit and not special at all. I don’t wanna hear “it was the same fruit Sun God Nika ate 800 years ago!1!1! That’s so…just not what this story needs. Meh. Not creative at all and I hate that big TH-camrs are all floating this idea, and all at the same time too 🤷🏼♂️ they’re all piggybacking off each other. It’s boring.
@@fullydiminished but it's obvious he is "the chosen one" literally the son of dragon, grandson of garp, most likely carrying joyboy's will, is a D, can hear the voice of all things and etc.
@@maji112 just because his family members are gigachads doesn’t mean he has to be a played out chosen one trope
@@fullydiminished facts bro. I don’t want it to be that at all. Worst most lazy trope in writing especially in manga. Always drawn to luffy because he has a goofy seemingly low tier power that he makes work. He’s not goku, he’s not naruto, he’s not ichigo, he’s luffy. But then I remember one piece started so long ago and him being a chosen one with a crazy powerful fruit the whole time is 100% a 90s-00s manga move
@@TrueGamer22887 i mean, this started in the 90s xD
It pretty much explains the entire premise in that one page with the world leaders talking about the fruit, how it was given a false name and hasn't actually awaked in centuries. Apparently it takes a lot of effort to awaken it, Luffy had to almost die several times to get to this point. But its pretty obvious what's happening right now, he's awakening it finally and everyone's theories will be confirmed.
Ohara taking a W for predicting the truth
Pretty sure he did die for a few moments. His "voice" was gone momentarily and his heart restarted with the rhythm of the drums of liberation.
good one!!!
It's funny how Shanks and his crew left the fruit in sight and Luffy ate it by sheer coincidence. He didn't really intented to eat it, it was just the first thing he saw 😂
Luffy chew that fruit thinking it was a desert
-looks at luffy stuffing his face with meat- makes sense.
Shanks's explanation really does make perfect sense. We saw Luffy almost drown because of his devil fruit. In case they shipwreck or get thrown overboard, a pirate absolutely needs to be able to swim in the overwhelming majority of cases. Not everyone can save them.
Luffy was save by sea kings when he fall from onigashima in the first defeat by kaido.
@@thewho5786 Hey, man! Give spoiler warnings for the other readers!
But you're right, and that's something important to note about it. Most pirates don't have that kind of backup or luck.
@@thewho5786 Thank you for the spoiler buddy really made my day👏👏
When shanks says “his arm… it strectches”, he sounds surprised. Maybe we’re only meant to believe that he’s surprised because luffys arm shouldnt stretch, or he’s surprised that it stretches because he anticipated the fruit to be a different one, for instance the yami yami no me like you explained. In a way id like that, since it would mean that the rubber fruit isnt actually that special, and luffy overcomes all these obstacles by using his fruit in clever ways
No he said that shortly before he realized luffy ate the gumgum fruit he didnt know in that moment and it only clicked moments later
He was only surprised cuz he didn’t expect luffy to eat the fruit which is why.
No he was just recognising he ate the Rubber fruit. This theory is a stretch
Gomu gomu no is going to be the devil fruit the gorosei is talking about. Though I don’t think it’s going to be a mythical zoan. 🤞
@@iJoey90 who would think it’s going to be a mythical zoan 💀 it’s a paramecia
This guy interpreted the whole anime so accurately. Better than Katakuri did in Luffy's fight lmao. Currently, Luffy's fruit is not gum gum but hito hito model nika which can make luffy's imagination come true. Shanks was shocked seeing that luffy's arm stretches after eating the fruit, I mean Shanks is one of the most experienced pirate out there why wud he get shocked for a random devil fruit power? UNless a power like that never existed. The arm stretching thing and the rubber everything is luffy's imagination, he believed Shanks when Shanks made up a rando name and power for the fruit and he imagined it wud work that way. Even the gears, luffy is not smart enough to control his whole inner body and make it like that, he imagined it to work like that. Honestly, only luffy can make this fruit this powerful due to his mental strength and childish imagination
Holy shit, you gave me a new appreciation for some of the older arcs now - That makes a lot of his invented techniques make a lot of sense.
But luffy's arm stretched way before Shanks told him about gomu gomu no mi. So your theory doesn't stand.
The theory of souls in devil fruits fits really well with the Black Beard theory where he has multiple personalities
Each of his personalities can take on the soul of the devil fruit without killing him
The only problem i have with that is that he has shown using both of his abilities at the same time
If they are doing DID the way it's in real life, the alters can be co-con aka be in the driving seat at the same time
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@@buruguduystunstugudunstuy1063, when was that stated?
Kaido=china(dragon)
Big mom=russia(mother russia)
Whitebeard=middle east(beard
people)
Shanks=UK(red hair)
Blackbeard=africa(black)
5 elders=spain,france,australia,
england,india(look at
their appearance)
Imu sama=pope
Navy=America(navy logo)
Luffy=Philippines
Roger=mongols
Oden=Qin dynasty
Zoro=Japan
Germa 66=germany
Yamato=taiwan
Trafalgar law=south korea
Eustass kid=vietnam
Acient weapon=uranus,pluton,
poseidon
Uranium=atomic bomb
Plutonium=nuclear bomb
Poseidon=poseidon torpedo
Strawhat=Sun
One piece=Universe
Uni=one Verse=song
D=dharma(universal law/truth)
Will of D=will of truth
Truth=?
@@johnyoutube6746 wowza that has given me a lot of things to think about
The gomu gomu no mi is like a hard counter to some top-tier fruits in each category. At least it counters Enel (logia), Sen Goku (shock waves from buddha form, mythical zoan), and the Gura Gura no Mi (paramecia). I could see the government wanting it just because of its ability to effectively counter powerful fruits. I'm sure there is more example of fruits its counters. The only counter to Luffy are fruits that can manipulate temperature, but now with supreme conquerors Haki, idk if those will even matter much unless it is an admiral-level opponent or higher. Example being, I don't think a character like Oven, Bill or Monet could really do any actual damage to Luffy at this point in the story.
It's almost like it's the only generic fruit that has the ability to fight the god-like devil fruits
I wouldnt say it counters those fruits necessarily. He is able to negate their abilities, but he cant do anything that that does extra damage to them in particular. I think a better example of "counter" fruits would be akainus lava fruit vs aokijis ice fruit. Still, it is nice to have
@@ryanlucht6625 Yeah I feel you. I think the mix up mainly came from me using counter and negate interchangeably without considering Luffy's offensive match up. I figure it's kind of like Dust Tornado and MST in yugioh, both counter opposing trap but in different ways (one negate the effect of the trap or spell after the card is activated and one destroys the opposing card before its use). Both can be used to counter your opponents cards, but one can be used at a higher rate, where as the other is more powerful during a specific timeframe. I guess I'm trying to say negating is still a form of countering, but the gumo gumo no mi can not be considered a "hard counter" that would be more like the example you gave. This was a winded and convoluted way to say I agree, but also I think the fact Luffy counters multiple fruits instead of just one specific one is a bonus in itself.
"Bill" is a filler character so I don't think he belongs in a discussion about a theory on the cannon story.
And that’s why Luffy would still lose against Sakazuki.
Could be the mythical Zoan fruit of the Monkey King, Sun Wukong. Who had the infinitely extending staff. Who killed many gods. Who was born on flower and fruit mountain. Who was regarded by some as a divine demon. Who is classically a good guy, known to represent the uprising against the elites. Maybe once awakened his hair will have magical properties and he will be able to transform into different animals or cloning himself or other tricks that Wukong used.
Just a thought
too clise
That would be crazy af. But too op, I don't think it will happen
@@DGraze *cliche
Well extending staff (or fists) enemy of the gods, born on a mountain of food.. sounds like luffy
It has some fun connections. It could also just be that Oda is influenced by that very popular, excellent story.
just came back after reading ch 1044 and surprised how accurate your theory was ... insane
The fruit is supposed to be for Ace, Shanks knew that Roger’s son is on that island, Roger mentioned that his son will be his successor, so Shanks looked for Ace, but he hasn’t met him yet so he’s been in out of the island hoping to meet Ace and give him the fruit, but by doing that, he befriended Luffy, and bcoz of Luffy’s stupidity, he ate it, then by that time, Shanks realized that he’s vision (observation haki) about the next joyboy is not Ace but Luffy since Luffy’s been saying the same thing he’s Captian said, thats why he gave the hat to Luffy… from that point Shanks was sure that its Luffy and not Ace…
@@unusualbug1113 donut* i think you misspel
thats practically what is said in the video...
@@ninshijima69 lmao
roger didnt have a devil fruit
@@Roosterwbass ikr
My favorite theory about the Gomu Gomu is that it isn't inherently special, but that the WG needed it for their Giant experiments
The fruits not special, but still very important to the WG
And would explain why Shanks didn't even bother to lock the box, it's only particularly relevant that the WG doesn't have the fruit
Oooh i like it
Yes! That is what i was thinking.
Would make alot of sense if Oda spinns it that way.
What if they were planning to have Vegapunk pull the special property's from the fruit for the giantfication of their army but what does make the giant race so special the size and strength they possess?
Dude gomo gomo no mi is hardcounter to alot of legendry devil fruit.if you want to know what devil fruit gomo gomo no mi can counter go and scearch it by yourself
The gomu gomu fruit has the ability to copy abilities hence why luffy is able to copy abilities so easily this gets enhanced with his conquers haki when he changes into form like snake man bounce man etc all forms if I remind you copied from the monsters he trained with on the island with Raleigh
I'd assume the awakening would be he could copy devil fruit abilities
I love how ahead of time this guy was. I mean everything he's saying it's what's happening now 😅😂
It’s a really important fruit. And that’s why Shanks can easily walk and talk to the 5 elders, we still need to know what kind of promise/deal he made with them and it’s now kinda obvious that is related to the gomu gomu.
Shanks made a deal to take Luffy down , I said it before, he's like an Itachi-like character who will side with the darker side to balance peace in case Luffy gets too strong
@@oceanwavesandcocaine1129 Lmao Itachi was more a prevention guy instead of awaiting to see what would happen and then act guy, if he knew the df's abilities and how dangerous it was then he would've just let Luffy drown.
Most likely he went to talk about buggy. He told the gorosei how dangerous he is and now after some events that we don't know about yet(the shichibukai abolishment) he has risen to notoriety.
@@georgigeorgiev7380 yes man buddy d clown is continually failing upwards to where shanks needs to intervene haha
No it's Blackbeard's devil fruit
This was actually really good, at first I never liked how the gomu gomu no mi was the most powerful and stuff, but now with this new theory I love it. It makes that luffy became joyboy becuase of the devil fruit, no becuase he was "chosen" when he was born. Everyone had the chance of becoming the next joyboy but LUCKILY luffy got his hands on a really powerful one. Thanks Manu!
This theory is BELLISSIMA
Bene sommo ho messo mi piace a tutti, il mio lavoro qui è finito
Woah shanks content back to back
First Liam now Manu
Love it🔥🔥
Shanks saw how empathetic Luffy is and knew how stubborn he was as well. Mix that with Luffys tenacity and you have the perfect storm.
I hope it's the first option, where Luffy's fruit isn't really that special. Idk bout y'all but to me it's cooler that Luffy's strength isn't because he has an op fruit but because of his creativity, tenacity and determination.
Doesn't change a thing
Are you avtually saying this? He's going toe to toe with Kaido because of a miltitude of factors. His strength was always that. Why should it status of a fruit matyer in any way shape or form? What do you also think naruto didn't have to work for the powers he got?
@@dragon67849 look man. I'm not gonna argue/debate with u I just wanted to share my opinion, and I never said anything about Naruto. I also like Naruto and agree that he's also got his strength from tenacity and determination.
@@clownnmoment I'm not asking you to argue with me. There were just holes in your opinion from what I can tell and I picked it out. That's all. I didn't mean to be rude. But you genuinely confused me. If you still hold that opinion, you'll have my respect anyway ^^
@@dragon67849 ohhh sorry, it must've been the tone I read ur message in and I thought u was being agressive, and yeah my message definitely had holes because I didn't really think too much about it and just typed the first things that came into my mind.
I always felt Sengoku having the Hito Hito no Mi, Model: Daibutsu was very out of place in relation to the rest of not just Zoan fruits, but every other Devil Fruit, especially in its implementation during Marineford. He didn't really do much with it, it's almost as if it was meant to set up the possibility of similar fruits to it existing.
This is definitely one of the better theories in regards to the Gomu Gomu no Mi being the renamed fruit, especially with Sengoku acting as proof that this sort of power is attainable in the world.
Personally I really hope the fruit isn't that strong. I like the idea that he's worked hard enough to make an average strength df the strongest power on the seas over he's been given the strongest power and he's just not that great at using it yet.
True, Gomu gomu nomi being legendary would hurt the series
It doesn't have to be this way. No matter what fruit it is, luffy did incredible things whit it noone else ever could. Even if it is the mystical zoan
Originally the story was supposed to only have one fruit power. Luffy being special was always intended even if it doesn't feel like that is how the story should be written.
Grandson of the strongest Marine?
Son of the most wanted man?
Powers accidentally gifted by the strongest ish yonko?
Has all three haki / advanced. Can hear the voice of all things.
You get how much more I could add here. It's a lot of MC powers that make Luffy special.
@@thewonderblunder3421 It's true he's got some strong blood and some strong people backing him. But everything else is down to willpower he's been training to get stronger since he was a small child, even conquers haki has some relation to will. Walking around with the strongest devil fruit would just diminish his accomplishments a little
Yeah didn’t Oda once say he wanted to make a silly power strong
Bro basically spoiled the Gear 5 reveal without actually spoiling it.
I really like the idea that Shanks was actually after the Darkness fruit, I never thought about it until you brought it up but they do look very similar, cool idea!
My problem with the theory that the Gomu fruit was eaten by Roger previously is that like, wouldn't someone have recognized Luffy having eaten Roger's fruit? Whitebeard, Rayleigh, Shanks, literally anyone who knew Roger personally would have recognized the fruit instantly and would have confronted Luffy about it. Now if the fruit was eaten by Joyboy I could totally see that but Roger having eaten the fruit would make ZERO sense story wise.
What if rogers plan was to inherite his will to another person by eating a devil fruit. So on laughtale or later when he was close to get "caught" he decided to eat a random fruit to transport his will. So he never actually used his abilities and nobody knew. Thats why roger had no seastone handcuffs when he got executed
@@unendlichsexy Then he wouldnt of been able to get executed if it was the gomu gomu no mi...or any logia...or katakuri's...or buggy's..the biggest problem with this theory is if thats the case and say it was the gomu gomu no mi...why was shanks being so careless with it???
@@vanixiii5657 holy shit, true, i actually never thought about this obviously fact xD
@@vanixiii5657 if they were using the sea prison stones tho wouldnt that cancel their powers?
Roger wasn't a devil fruit user though.
The reason shanks was so dismissive of Luffy wanting to become a pirate was because he knew the true nature of the fruit and understood that taking luffy on as a subordinate would be counter to his nature as a god of freedom. He knew he had to go out on his own of his own free will
This video aged nicely. well done.
Giving further evidence to Ohara's theory:
The 3rd option of fruit being sun god Nika makes a lot of sense if you think about Doflamingo, op op fruit and awakening rules. We know it takes a lot of time to awaken a devil fruit. Most we have seen awakened has had either had their fruits from childhood or is 40+ age. And Doflamingo later realizing that may have wanted to use op op fruit to transfer his personality to this possible mythical fruit owner, Luffy and then use immortal surgery to have enough time to awaken it.
The first time i heard gorosei talk about that mysterious devil fruit I immediately think it was gomu gomu no mi. I really thought luffy gonna beat kaido using awakening instead oda gave us a whole new power that never got introduced before. Maybe the reason luffy haven’t got awakening yet because he hasn’t realized that rubber is not his devil fruit true power
Facts
Though puffy being a prime candidate for the “legendary re named devil fruit” is cool and all I’m surprised nobody has taken into account the fruit being referred to is the yami yami no mi, it would make sense considering that the fruit has not been seen in a long time and that it was documented in the encyclopedia meaning that the fruits name could have been changed.
But its been seen quite a while ago
Fr. Void void no mo maybe.
Puffy
Oda didn't make Who's Who mention the Gum Gum fruit for nothing. We are meant to believe the Gum Gum fruit is special. But, a misdirect for the Yami Yami fruit would be pretty cool.
@@cremdilly7176 im hoping luffy's gear 5 awakening will be op to an extent. Blackbeard is op af rn with 2 of the strongest fruits in existence, if he learns haki I doubt anyone could beat him. I'm so hyped for blackbeard endgame villainy.
I think the fruit has all the abilities together but they have to believe in its ability. That is why when shanks said rubber he thought as rubber but when he wanted fire it had fire ability in the attack in it. Once Luffy learns the truth it would be epic.
You actually got it right what the hell. Congrats to you 😊
Low-key genius, Is this true????
@@ashlappy6122 technically yes, luffy's true power is imagination
@@notjoyg Man.... That makes him the most powerful
Oh wow you and Grandlinereview both did a topic about shanks today. What a good way to start today
Luffy has slowly expanding more of his body at one time. His awakening will be something like Ant Man being able to expand his body to the size of a giant with no consequences. He's been naming his gear 3 and 4 attacks with "Kong" in them. Gear 5 will essentially be a King Kong form.
Even a year later the more chapters that come out proves more and more how accurately this theory has hit.
This man is different.
He has to have a job as a detective or something cause this is crazy😭
3:20 i don't think Rayleigh's the only one able to coat ships, but he's the only one related to Roger who coats ships. Hachi said Rayleigh is the only one he trusts to coat ships. After all the others of the Worst Generation, as well as Caribou himself got their ships coated, and Rayleigh says that he hasn't been coating ships in a long time.
Yep true! They also mention that Rayleigh's the best ship coater that means there are others who can ship coat its just they think Rayleigh's the best one😂
None of Shanks’ crewmates are DF users, so he must’ve had another reason to steal it than using it for his own crew. Not sure if this exact theory is right but there must be something.
I feel like roux has a devil fruit since he just appeared out of nowhere on the mountain bandit's left and shot him without they even noticing, probably roux has a teleportation fruit?
@@SleepyWhistles I'm pretty sure shank's entire crew is said to be non df users
you have to be able to swim to join
@@SleepyWhistles I think that was just a yonko crew being that much better than mountain bandits. Roux and Beckman are the most visibly angry about the situation and they are both the ones who own everybody.
@@SleepyWhistles Beckman also beats up a bunch of people at lightspeed with the butt of his gun lol
@@Luminousreign "butt of his gun" 💀💀💀💀
The fruit must be extremely hard to awaken. Only by being pushed to your limits or near death multiple times starting from the day you eat it can you awaken it. Luffy has obviously been doing both since he was a kid. Maybe Garp knew what it was and thats why he left Luffy alone in the Jungle all the time to do exactly that from the start. Now hes finally ready to awaken fighting Kaido. Sengoku has a Budha fruit maybe the gomu gomu is actually a Sun god fruit.
@SHENW0U stolen
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@SHENW0U aaaaaaaaaaaa
Im wondering if chopper's rumble ball have an effect to luffy should ge theory be true
we will see it on wano arc he was in near death when kaido blew him with cp0 holding him.
@@jetfighter7497 Yep next chapter might prove my theory we will see.
This man snuck into the editors' room.
I do feel like it would be super cool if it turns out the fruit is super powerful but I also feel like it would kind of ruin the story because luffy is a young kid using a ridiculous power of rubber compared to enemies who have elements and can transform into God's yet he overcomes them through hard work and ingenuity which makes him a lot more special
It's already quite powerful maybe not before Haki but once he got his Haki it just became insane this fruit might be perfect for Haki they just support each other so well idk but he did become very powerful after he knew haki but that could also just be couse he has conquerers haki who knows we will see
@@walterlaten7662 the haki things is acceptable from Luffy, because he train very hard to get them and it's fair since other people also can use it(except conqueror) but if this theory in the video is proved true, Luffy will just become another special main character, there's no rubber boy fighting opponents with crazy abilities anymore. Because I remember Oda purposely use rubber as the most ridiculous power one can get.
It's a shonen anime.. it's always about the protagonist.
Why can't it at first be silly and later be super cool .
Luffy even has zoan ability for fast recovery on every fight
Kaido=china(dragon)
Big mom=russia(mother russia)
Whitebeard=middle east(beard
people)
Shanks=UK(red hair)
Blackbeard=africa(black)
5 elders=spain,france,australia,
england,india(look at
their appearance)
Imu sama=pope
Navy=America(navy logo)
Luffy=Philippines
Roger=mongols
Oden=Qin dynasty
Zoro=Japan
Germa 66=germany
Yamato=taiwan
Trafalgar law=south korea
Eustass kid=vietnam
Acient weapon=uranus,pluton,
poseidon
Uranium=atomic bomb
Plutonium=nuclear bomb
Poseidon=poseidon torpedo
Strawhat=Sun
One piece=Universe
Uni=one Verse=song
D=dharma(universal law/truth)
Will of D=will of truth
Truth=?
15:00 Gorosei states that the fruit hasn't awakened for centuries. And I remember Kozuki Toki came from nearly 800 years ago for searching someone. What if she took JoyBoy's devil fruit to gave to the man who will carry out the will of D. and brought it to the present, but fell in love with Oden and gave the fruit to Roger??
Damn that actually makes sense and maybe it could even tie into why the Roger Pirates were too early to arrive at Laugh Tale. Maybe they discovered something on Laugh Tale about how the one to arrive on time would be the one that had been both a native of the East Blue and had mastered the Gomu Gomu no Mi (or whatever it's true name is). Roger then makes sure to turn himself in in the East Blue after eating the fruit so the fruit reincarnates in the East Blue. The fruit goes thru maybe one or more reincarnation cycles in the East Blue used by those that don't have it very long, but one of it's users makes enough of a name for themselves that the World Gov't finds out about the fruit being in the East Blue. This then leads to it being in CP9's possession shortly before Shanks stole it and Luffy ate it.
I think it's either O'tama's but most likey Toki's ability. Remember the gorosei did say that it was a legendary fruit even for them. Toki travelled through time right? That explains why her ability being legendary because it was missing in action for last 800 plus years!
Is it a coincidence that Toki's name and ability are the same? And the way Toki describe here ability in the manga. She didn't even mention about the devil fruits right?
Btw, Imu sama has the parallel with Lilith and not with Ice queen as Ohara assumed. And if your reading this, you know Adam and Eve right? Eve was not Adam's first partner.
This video aged well! Good job!
Thanks!
@@thebiggestwheel4212 👏
Luffs devil fruit has the ability to stretching and changing sizes of things and will be able to change elasticity of objects, this could possibly be his first awaking and explains the way tigerman could work by increasing the elasticity of his muscles and covering it with advanced armament but keeping his legs the same size meaning his speed increases dramatically and he could possibly awaken his fruit for the second time and when this happens he could have the ability to stretch things like age, this could explains why luffy can hear zunesha because the person who punished zunesha was most likely a companion of the past user of luffys devil fruit and managed to change the size of zunesha and extending her life limit and possibly permanently making her a elephant by lengthening the time limit of how long zunesha stays as an elephant (sorry for bad grammar i was typing quickly)
I started to think that, Luffy kept saying gomu gomu no mi because it’s his memories with shank and ace. Maybe he knew the real name of the fruit
I think it will be the BALOON BALOON FRUIT. Giving Luffy the ability to stretch and inflate other things when awakened. Like, lets say making an elephant giant. It might also be the ancient weapon of the skies: Uranus. Its goofy enough for ODA and he would still be immune to lightning when not inflated I guess. Does that make any sense?
@@tamtamtommy lol sounds cool but i think it makes more sense if its an ancient zoan like sengoku... maybe nika nika no mi(sun god).
Punctuation homie, use it
so, Luffy is gonna become the god of pirates 💀
I like this theory I have somewhat been developing, Devil fruits seem to pass on a part of the users soul which is why Sabo said the same thing as Ace. Now Luffy says the same thing as Roger does, they both point at Sky Island the same way, and Roger told Rayleigh he wasnt going to die, I think before Roger turned himself in to the WG he ate the Gomu Gomu no Mi, He was executed in a way that being rubber won't help, The reason why the world government had it and why Shanks freaked out after Luffy ate it was because a piece of Rogers will/soul was in it
Oh it's like I'm going out with one more fuck you to the WG. Feels right somehow
Haha
@@ashlappy6122 You realize this is a theory I had from 9 months ago right? Before Gear 5 happened
@@umbralowl not judging tho. I love reading theories
This theory really is BELLISSIMA
Is your name Trunks? Did you travel back in time using a time machine? WTH your prediction is ON POINT dude!! Welldone.
I would give more thumbs up for this vid! great work
Quick theory: when Shanks spoke about a "certain pirate," what if the conversation was about Shanks giving the World Government his Red Poneglyph to make sure Black Beard cannot reach it easily?
This twist seems interesting to me, because Shanks could have done this also to push Luffy forward, and now the Straw Hats need to "conquer" the World Government directly before going to Raftel.
Either way its about time to save sabo thay has to conquer wg
@@sagarpatel5312 either way I want to see Luffy kick Shakazuki's butt all around the new world
@@Dominguez6 The fish-man island road poneglyph is missing, isn't it? It would make sense that Whitebeard took it (Marco inherited it) and/or Shanks now has it under protection to keep Blackbeard away.
@@Dominguez6 fishman island dosent have poneglyph
@@Dominguez6 fourth road poneglyph( the red one) is still missing... We only know about 3
1. Zuo (minks)
2. Tata land (big mom)
3. Wano (kaido)
4. Not revealed yet
Fishmen island had a black poneglyph not a red one
Really well made, dude. I have to say I dropped off from one piece during the fishmen island arc, I just found myself not enjoying the repetition of each episode. But as a whole, I’ve tried to keep up with the story because I think it’s gotta be one of the most impressive, connective, world-building stories out there. Hearing these theories makes me wonder how far ahead the creator has been since the beginning, or if it’s kinda just grown on it’s own in a way, the twists and turns coming out of the creation of each set of chapters. Really cool stuff….
I believe the government wanted the gomu gomu no mi because it would help the WG with their research in producing giants. We see that Luffy is capable of creating Giant Limbs with the fruit, so if Vegapunk were to get his hands on the fruit he might have developed the best way to make giants.
This is actually viable, good idea.
Luffy's real fruit is called the Hito Hito no Mi: Nika. It is a Mythical Zoan fruit, and it transforms its user into the 'Sun God' Nika once it has been awakened he didn't inherit it its a mythical like you said cause his final is sun god so it a mythical
dude this was 3 months ago he guessed everything
@@vinsmokesgerma yea bro what
@@communityguidelines876 this video came way before we knew about hito hito no mi model nika, which means that he basically got everything right
@@puppymagnet8269 yea the video was made 4 months ago, and this comment was from a month ago. We had no clue of anything 4 months ago, a month ago we found out.
Gear 5 becomes the hito
I'm just saying: Shanks had to have known Luffy ate a lot seeing how Luffy wanted to set sail with them. (It means they were close enough) not only did he leave the box with the devil fruit open but it was open right next to the little kid who would see a fruit and want to eat it.
think of it like this. Why was he on that island to begin with? And he was there for a while with a devil fruit he stole from the world government. I think his original plan was finding Ace and giving him the devil fruit in hope the right one was Ace. However, that was not the case he found someone else, and it just so happened to be someone who is exactly like his captain. So, shanks wagered his arm in order to instill not just the devil fruit but also the future for the new era, because we all know shanks could have ended that sea king. But luffy wouldn't have been so impacted by it. all in all, the main puppeteer for one piece right now is not imu and the world government nor akainu and the marines not dragon and the revolutionaries but Shanks hes oddly pulling the strings on everyone.
Yep his prediction haki was leading him to joy boy. But he thought Ace was coming in and eating it. He wasn't expecting it to be luffy.
Also the latest chapter said that zoan fruits are known to have minds of their owns. Maybe the fruit wanted to be eaten by luffy
Shanks stealing the gomu gomu fruit from the world government is akin to prometheus stealing fire from the gods and giving it to the humans. So more likely the gomu gomu has some kind of connection to sun lord nika as a parallel to the prometheus story.
And this happened...
@@cap8032 it has... When? I haven't caught up with the new chapters yet and unlike most people on the internet I actually don't mind if someone could spoil it for me. ^^
@@NeroLeMorte 1043. Absolutely beautiful prediction dude
@@1001nicolai1 wow thanks first time I ever predicted something from a manga that ended up right.
@@NeroLeMorte good job on your prediction!
Turns out it was really special. Hito Hito no Mi - Mythical Zoan: Model Nika.
Hito Hito no mi is choppers fruit tho
@@untitledname4740 there's more than one model
I could definitely see something like this happening, if not a Mythical Zoan than a final form heavily inspired by the Monkey King. I could even see Luffy wielding a Bo staff that he can imbue with his rubber powers allowing it to change size like Sun Wukong’s staff. It will have to wait though because I believe gear 4th will be getting a “Tigerman” form to fight Kaido very soon.
:0 oh wait awakening Ohhhhh yes
Im a big Son wukong fan i wont lie and that would be the coolest thing ever but the only issue us it changes luffy's fighting style. Luffy is a brawler with very sharp fighting instincts if we give him a staff then he is not Luffy anymore. If we are going that route Oda needs o find a way of making him the monkey king without loosing luffy. Because we dont want to change him to a pure martial artist.
@@michaelmwanza8724 I think Luffy’s use of a staff would be totally different than it’s traditional use and even if he had a signature weapon of any kind it would be just one more tool in his proverbial toolbox. He would still revert to unarmed combat more often than not.
Well Usopp has Already Shown He can Make It.
Ngl I get one piece has been going on a long time but wukong analogies are pretty plated out ngl would be kinda lame
It's clearly that Shanks has an intention to give it Luffy, because if you see clearly the box of gomu gomu no mi has place on the table right beside Luffy. Imagine guys, if gomu gomu no mi is special and important to Shanks he didn't put the box in the obvious place that easily to stole. So the conclusion is Shanks has a plan for Luffy before Luffy eating devil fruit cause like he said to his crew that Luffy and Roger has the same dreams or goal. So maybe that's a key or the secret will of Roger to Shanks before the of his execution. That's why Shanks risked his arm to protect Luffy and to show to him that he is precious to Shanks that's why Luffy need to promise to fulfill his dream to become a great pirate in the future and leave strawhat to him..
But i think it was meant for ace because hes rogers son ,thts why shanks was in the island,just my opinion no hate😁
The biggest wheel
You did it. Your theory was spot on
It was already shown that luffy takes styles form animals. Luffys real devil fruit power is the power to take different forms of animals. Remember python, gorilla, etc. All attacks are forms of animal fighting styles. Puffer fish, you can find others as well and compare it with animals.
Nope, luffy started calling his attacks guns and weapons. He only started naming them after training with Rayleigh because Rayleigh used animals to train luffy
@@kubss2778 Sun wukong has the ability to transform in to 72 different Animals/Objects. Do with that information what you will.
@@kubss2778 he was fighting animals ever since he was little. He would have gotten the inspiration long before Rayleigh trained him.
@@imtiazsyed8716 he only started calling his moves animals after he trained with rayleigh, and he also fought lots every day.
Well do you feel stupid now
After chapter 1044 and 1045 it’s insane how well he predicted this
I like the idea of Luffy making something useless/powerless to something amazing/exciting , making his own miracles happen instead of being spoonfed, eventhough I like the idea of the rubber-rubber fruit being a legendary Mythical tier Paramecia type devil fruit. Maybe Oda is just juking us. Anyways it'll be a good surprise. Can't wait for Tomorrow.
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Shanks didn’t choose Luffy
It was all part of Benn Beckman’s plan to give the devil fruit to Luffy. The true genius behind the Red Haired Pirates.
OP
Im conflicted about Luffy's devil fruit. A part of me don't want it to be special, just a rubber boy overcoming obstacles without anything inherently special to him
The other part wants to see how Oda has planned this out from the get go, changing everything of how we view Luffy as a character
Some people have a theory that it would have been used in gigantification experiments. Which I find to be the best theory especially since luffy has said in gear 3rd that he had the limb of a giant.
It’s toki’s devil fruit
the gomu gomu no mi could be a regular fruit that the wg mistaking as the zoan of the monkey king due to luffys name and the fact we have seen 0 previous users of the gomu gomu no mi and the wg is that paranoid that they locked it away so someone like the previous user couldnt threaten them
I think the fruit lets him control his body in any way he wants, so he believes he is rubber then he is rubber, he believes he can summon fire he does, maybe he can transform his body also in any race... Because its absurd he inflates his bones but he believes it happens so they grow like a giant ... Etc ... The government assign the name gomu gomu because stretching is the first effect on the body and its difficult to awaken because you need a child like personality, creativity and perseverance (with what seems one of the worst powers) to survive and become stronger.
That would be a great way to explain luffys ability
Doesn't make sense if you think back when he ate it he didn't realize what he had eaten and he started stretching without thinking about it.
Control over his body more likely, there is still potential too lile infinite stretching, giant form and the ability to strerch your will (powerful haki)
Oh my GOD ! This in my mind for a very long time !
thats not how rubber works tho, the author in my opinion is using properties of rubber for luffys powers like how rubber can stretch and also be heated, can be strong and hard yet flexible and retractable. his entire body is rubber including bones just like how a lava human is lava including bones and all, its not a mind thing its a physiology thing, mind only comes into play once you begin to master and explore your abilities, when used for a long time you reach doflamingo status which is a second awakening, logia users reach 2nd awakening faster than paramecia but the end goal is to be able to change your surroundings to match your powers or your powers to change your surroundings
Sir i proudly declare you the KING of OP theories. And also i did press that sub button. WOW just wow. Excellent job sir.
Whilst I would prefer that luffy's fruit was just a normal fruit that he made powerful due to his creativity, if he had a fundamental misunderstanding of what the fruit was due to it being renamed and its origin twisted, that would explain why luffy hasn't awakened his fruit despite his crazy mastery of his fruit in comparison to other devil fruit users.
Because the fruit actually requires great physical capabilities to be used effectively and after the timeskip we have been seeing that he implemented haki to make it even stronger. In all honesty luffy doesn’t or can’t rely on his fruit as much as the other users which have awakened
I agree
@@nobby5378 Yeah Luffy definitely has for a long time, especially in recent chapters, been tending away from innovating with his fruit directly and towards directly strengthen himself or his fruit powers with various haki, which could very easily explain why others who mainly focus on just their fruits awakened first. But in a way this may be a sign that Luffy has sort of reached a ceiling for his fruit due to his "perception" of what the fruit is. The next step for innovating with his fruit may be him realising its true capabilities, which would unlock the door to more fruit based abilities (and possibly an awakening) rather than just haki based power ups.
Still would prefer that he was just a rubber boi tho...
@@BennnnnnnA but what if he's a flaming rubber boi, That's pretty cool
@@someyeeterontheblock2421 Ooooooo good point good point, can't go wrong with a flaming rubber boi😅
Just going off the idea that we have so many DF’s with such a wide range of designs the fact that our Gomu Gomu and Yami Yami look so similar. IMO this clears a path of foreshadowing that someone could have mistook one for the other. In chapter 1 Shanks seems to know that he had the Gomu fruit, as well as when BB is talking to Ace he acts as though the Yami Yami was definitely the one he wanted soooo I haven’t an idea whom the mistake would have actually fallen on given those 2 characters don’t seem to be them.
Close but Luffy always says Gum-gum gomu-gomu in his attacks. He knows the name of his fruit
@@outamym1nd695 he knows why shanks told him. Please don’t mis interpret something and claim without a doubt you know what your talking about
Sooo, was YoiBoy actually a human, but the gomu gomu nomi made him able to change into a giant? That could also explain why he is seen as a giant.
Hey dude I just came back here because I remembered this post when Luffy gear 5 came out and you were correct so I just came back to show my respect
Bruhhh your theory was on point mann. Watching this after reading chapter 1044.
The 3rd option would be really cool especially since this is the same arc where Kido fruit got revealed but it turned out to be the "Fish-Fish" fruit witch Kido is clearly a Dragon (gyarados) so luffy fruit awakening could be the Sun God witch was joy boy fruit originally that Roger ate, that Shanks had to steal back that Luffy ate that was meant for Ace
It's explain too why kaido was labeled also the strongest creature in sea.. it was stated that kaido is the strongest on land air and sea. But we all know devil fruits are weak on sea water then why kaido is labeled as that. And even kaido has the hobby of jumping from sky islands just to find himself how to die. I wonder if kaido jumps on the ocean why he is still alive.
@@thewho5786 nah strongest beast
The only flaw with this is Shanks wouldnt be so careless with his former captains fruit that he was planning to give to said captains son...Like thats a pretty special momento and youre just gonna leave it laying around to where a kid can eat it accidentally???
@@vanixiii5657 i mean let’s be honest though, during this time shanks was similar to luffy in his personality, he seemed pretty carefree and didn’t think too much ahead, he probably let his guard down because he trusted everyone around him and himself to protect it, not thinking that luffy would eat it
How you get his name wrong twice lol
How in the world did this guy got this prediction so right?
Damn bruh, you nailed it.
My only problem with the gumu gumu no mi being a different fruit is that when people bite into a fruit they immediately know it’s name and powers so you would think puffy would also know that the fruit is capable of more. And with the other theories I feel like that just degrades his character, instead of being his own person he is influenced by the others that ate the fruit.
Well Every Devil Fruit User is Influenced by the Previous User. It's just not a Total Mind/Body Takeover. Think of it like a More Faint Version of Kurama or any of the Other Biju
This was a mistranslation, Actually! but I agree with the later point.
The fat guy from Shanks his crew immediatly tells him: Oy Luffy, Did you eat this. Its the gomu gomu no mi. So it would be understandable that Luffy believed him over his own instincts
This spot-on theory alone validates you as a top One Piece commentator
Theory time: If there are parallels between Kaido and Luffy ( Kaido being the version of Luffy who couldn’t failed at being Joy Boy), then there are similarities between them and their devil fruits. Kaido’s devil fruit and the legend of the Coi fish that became a dragon (Kaido evolving his seemingly useless devil fruit into an unstoppable power), could only mean that Luffy would evolve his devil fruit somehow (possibly into Sunwukong, the monkey god???)…
@Librallion it’s a theory and I’m sure something would be revealed in a flashback. Hence why I put out a disclaimer saying “THEORY TIME”
@Librallion big mom called Kaidos fruit the “fish fish fruit” in the manga
He didnt evolve it
Kaido's devil fruit was never a useless fruit. Yes it is a fish fish fruit but a dragon model. Same with sengoku's human human fruit model buddha
I always wondered why the “gomu gomu” fruit is shaped like a sun and it’s the only fruit we’ve seen so far with that perfect circular shape
Law also has the only fruit that is shape like a heart 😂
Red Hawk is probably made with Haki Hardening and moving at a very high speed that the friction caused fire, it kinda works like Diable Jambe, even in the example in the anime where Luffy hits Doflamingo, it's clear that Luffy's arm turned black. Sanji also said that his Germa enhancement and Haki helped him to heat up his leg even more into Ifrit Jambe.
Also turning it into Mythical Zoan (some even say that it's Sun Wukong Zoan) would just make Luffy too OP and it feels like he was given too much advantage, it would be more poetic if Luffy gets so strong despite his abiility is just being a rubber man unlike the supernatural powers of the other Yonkos.
Also if it turned out to be Monkey King Zoan, it's weird that the first ability that manifested is Luffy stretching his arm, i'm pretty sure that Zoan fruits would manifest their beast forms first and then finally manifesting other abilities that the myth allows like Kaido and his fire clouds, thunders, and slicing catasthrope attacks.
oh and one more reason why it doesn't need to be Monkey King Zoan is that Luffy's first name is already Monkey and sometimes acts like one too, he doesn't need extra Monkey Fruit to be even more Monkey than he already is. You can still make the connection that Luffy is Oda's interpretation of Monkey King alone with his name.
I disagree on the friction part I think he just produces fire like how sanji does now especially since he uses it underwater against hody.
@@MrCrimsonftw i agree with friction luffy is not germa how he gonna produce fire like them because thats the only explnation for sanji
@@MrCrimsonftw sanji only produce fire as a gag, originally Sanji also has to spin to create friction for setting his leg on fire as seen on Enies Lobby
@@ericfernando4296 now he doesn’t though he can just combust on command
@@EnemyStandUser_ other characters use heat and fire based abilities zoro lit ryuma on fire and katakuri had that exploding flaming fist move.
Nice vid, i like how you keep it simple, not with all the annoying meme edit others do, this is so much clearer and chill to watch.
the Gomu Gomu no mi is actually not a rubber fruit, but a "Form Form Fruit" which allows the user to take any form they want, in this case luffy always wanted to be the freeest person in the world hence he is able to take any form freely. The "Form Form Fruit", or "Fōmu fōmu no mi".
Closr
Not far off ngl
You weren’t far
One thing to note about the Gum Gum Fruit: its power is ALWAYS on, even in water. Remember the Arlong Park arc? His neck was stretched out, despite the rest of his body being underwater. Oda himself said Devil Fruit powers don't work when the user's body is at least halfway underwater. Yet Luffy's power still works despite that. Sure, he still gets fatigued and all, so it's still very dangerous for him. That said, his power still fundamentally WORKS in spite of all that, unlike every other fruit (as far as I know, anyways. It's been a long while since I watched it last).
Oda made clear that sea water only drain fruit users’ stamina instead of ability. Read your manga.
If you want to go with that logic, Brook would literally die since revive-revive power dont' work
@@vincentsun886 marco can't heal when he got cuffed with sea prism stone
@@johnlandertan6649 seastone is different than sea water, it actually removes the abilities. Thats why Smokers Jitte actually hurt ruffy
cool theory except that sea water only weakens df users
I came from the future, this theory is reaaal, well almost
Bitch i saw the spolers too
Its crazy how your last theory actually became true
The fact that you were right is insane.
Right? He was impressively close to the mark.
And man do I want to see what Chapper's Rumble Ball would do with Luffy's Human Human Model: Nika, I expect only madness
@@UNSCPILOT Yeah!
I don't think Roger's will was passed on through the devil fruit because Luffy has another still secret dream that was also Roger's secret dream way before Luffy ate the DF.
Luffy tells Ace and Sabo about that dream AFTER he eats the gomu gomu. He has the powers and hat when Garp drops him off
@@siddharthkrishna8463 oh my gosh you're right! Never mind.
Its already been confirmed by Oda that Roger didn't have a devil fruit.
Fun Fact:
In the German dub of One Piece, Shanks and Chopper share their voice Actor who also voiced Ted Mosby from How I met your Mother.
Ach, krass. Danke für den random fact. xD
In the Italian voice actor of Luffy is also the same of Ted Mosby lol
@@adriel993 okay, come on boys, now all we need is one country where Roger shares is voice with Ted Mosby to come to the correct conclusion that, as all straw hat welders are somehow connected to him, Ted Mosby is Joy Boy.
He really got everything right, that’s respect
I saw a theory once that Blackbeard is actually a Cerberus mythical zoan. Being able to eat a different power for every head. So if luffy and teach are actually 2 myth zoans . One resembling the sun and another resembling an underworld dark creature. That would actually be sick…. Nice theory bro 👍🏻
And also same as luffys rubber attribute from his myth zoan bb probably got that darkness attribute also
you were SPOT ON
joyboy wasnt a giant, he became by using gomu gomu
its gear 5
if you combine gear 2, fast pumping blood, needed to circulate fast enough with same actual blood supply into an enlargened body fast enough to nourish all the larger body parts since now blood has to travel further to reach them, gear 3, giant bones, and gear 4, giant muscles, all together make a fully formed proper sized giant, that has been foreshadowed at least 2 times before i believe in dressrosa. people in colliseum and during doffy fight stated luffy couldnt be there because they heard he is a monstrous giant, and other scoffed at luffy in gear 4, saying what? i thought he was a 8 meter tall giant, this is barely 4 meters.
That didn't happen bruh... In dressrossa people failed to recognize luffy in gear 4 because he looked so different from his wanted poster.. and people in colosseum were shocked because "lucy" suddenly started to gigantify his arms and legs outta nowhere.. ( they didnt knew he was straw hat luffy who ate gum gum no mi and instead believed him to be a normal guy with no powers hence the shock when his arms started growing 100x)
@@mustafahararwala7374 luffy becoming giant in 1045 proves nothing because what he's saying about dressrossa never happened in the story no one thought of luffy as 8m giant that's bullshit and it'll still be bullshit no matter what.. dressrossa citizens were only confused because luffy's poster has his base form picture and they were looking at G4 luffy and thinking they don't look the same
@@mustafahararwala7374 no worries... Anime's on break right now so this is your chance to catch up to the story asap
Coming back after watching the most recent episode and seeing how on point this theory was is insane
Same lol 9:06
I like the theory of Luffy's DF is a zoan rather than "Oil / Fat" paramecia from Yuderon's, because we saw in the fight between King and Zoro, King stretches his head like rubber and attack Zoro, almost similar to Luffy's attack, thus probably signaling Zoan type fruit can have extra power (like Marco's healing like you mention in the video)
I feel as tho maybe he would be a combo of all 3 DF types assuming the sun god nika aspect to luffys fruit is litteral, he be a flaming haired tigerish looking stretching human that can melt u from the inside like akainu perhaps
I like latest Yuderons theory that its amber fruit,as it would fit with Nika title of sun god,because ancient greek name for amber was ἠλέκτωρ (ēlektōr) meaning "beaming Sun".
"Who his(Luffy's) mother might be"
Proceeds to show crocodile in a black shadow 4:50. 😂