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Maybe it's just real gum gum ( rubber rubber) fruit Because it has been passed down to generation thinking that it is nika fruit that's why world don't know anything about rubber rubber exciting and I can see why loki called himself sun god because his body is rubber like so he should have thought he is sun god nika and that makes more sense to me because luffy will have to know in future that his power's are not just based on rubber but it's imagination itself by fighting loki he will know his power's were never rubber it was imagination What do you think of my speculation or theory Ohara please reply does it make sense ok not
Surtr makes the most sense to me. Loki calls himself sun god. So a flame giant destined to cause ragnaroak makes more sense. Maybe that's why his brother went to dressrosa to get a flame type devil fruit.
Also the fact that surtr in Norse mythology is the greatest threat of Odin and Asgard set on the true destruction of the 9 realms in ygdrasil tree it makes too much sense for it to not be true
This was stolen from Grand line reviews video posted yesterday (timestamp 4:40 in grand line reviews video). Literally all this guys points are the same points used in his video.
@@thatonecow546 you don't need to watch someone's video to connect all the dots. I'm a fan of mavel movies. I watched Thor Ragnaroak in 2018. That's where I got the idea of surtur. Or do you think that only content creators come up with theories?
...as someone who grew up with the tales of the Norse Gods and monsters, I can't help but correct a few details and add some more. Firstly, Fenris wasn't chained beneath the roots of Yggdrasill - might be mixing him up with Nidhogg, who indeed IS stuck down there, gnawing on the Roots of Yggdrasill. Rather, he was lured to a distant island and chained there. Nor does Ragnarok start with him breaking free... rather, it starts with the fire-giants, led by Surtr, charging across Bifrost, the Rainbow-Bridge, to invade Asgard. A bunch of things happen in rapid succession then, including Fenrir breaking his chains, and he does indeed go on to devour Odin during the chaos that follows, but he is not the instigator, nor the main source of the world's destruction. Another thing I haven't heard mentioned regarding this version of Loki... the situation he's in seems to be based on Loki's End - the story of what happened to Loki after all his adventures through Norse Mythology. Long story short, he manages to finally piss off ALL the other Gods, then spends some time trying to escape their wrath, but gets cornered in the end. For his crimes, he was then chained in a chamber beneath the Earth... wrapped in thick anchor-chain, three millstones, and the sinew of his son. (The last-mentioned being to prevent him from shapeshifting his way out of this predicament.) Not satisfied with this, however, the goddess Frigga - whose most beloved son, Baldr, had died as a result of Loki's machinations - set a pair of venomous serpents in the ceiling above the stone table where Loki lay chained. They would constantly drip corrosive venom into his eyes, torturing him... though, fortunately, his wife remained staunchly by his side, holding a bowl over his face to capture the venom. Only when she had to empty out the bowl would a few drops fall into his eyes, making him tremble and shudder so mightily in pain that the very earth shook above him... causing *earthquakes.* So, maybe there's some connection, there, to this Loki's bandaged eyes? Shame the Earthquake Fruit is already taken, or it would suit him just perfectly, at least from a mythological standpoint. But, when Ragnarok comes, he will finally escape his imprisonment, and join Surtr's assault on Asgard... even as his three monstrous children rush to his side. Fenris will break his chains, and bound across the heavens, devouring the sun and the moon - before facing off against Odin himself, and likewise devouring him... before Odin's oft-forgotten son, Vidar - the clubfooted God of Hunters - avenges his father's death by breaking Fenris' neck with his foot. Jormungandr, the great World-Serpent who encircles Midgar, chewing endlessly on his own tail, will rise from waters whipped to froth by the falling pieces of Bifrost - it was shattered by the hooves of Surtr's cavalry, striking land and sea alike with the fury of falling stars - and fight a final battle with Thor the Thunderer, which will leave them both dead. And as the waves of Ragnarok was high upon the shores of Niflheimr, Hel's realm, it will lift loose the mighty ship Naglfar, built from the nails of countless dead men, and carry Hel and her ghostly army of the Unworthy Dead to join the battle as well... ...but there's zero mention of Nidhogg in any of this. Nor does he have any connection whatsoever to Loki in any of the myths, beyond perhaps being a neighbor of Hel, Loki's daughter? Some myths suggest that Nidhogg guards the only exit from Niflheim, though even then, it seems more like he's just... *living* there, rather than actively working with Hel. So, from a mythological perspective, I don't really buy the Nidhogg-Fruit idea. A Surtr-fruit, or more likely, just a 'Model: Fire-Giant' kind of setup, makes more sense since Surtr IS the instigator of Ragnarok, a monarch in his own right, and the main source of the world's destruction. (He and his Fire-Giants burn the world to ashes as they march, and Surtr himself slays Frey, the God of Fertility, symbolically rendering the world barren.) He's also kind of a... non-entity, at least in terms of surviving myths - we don't really know much of anything about him other than what is mentioned in the Prophecy of Ragnarok, so conflating him with Loki wouldn't really be a great loss. More to the point, if Oda wants to depict Loki in his full fury - the long-chained God, once known as Silvertongue or Lie-Smith, now a furious avenger stalking into the Final War with hatred in his heart - he needs to be able to call his children *to his side.* So, a great wolf, a great sea-serpent, and... Hel. Her right half, a beautiful woman - her left half, a rotting corpse. A symbol of how we all stand astride the grave - less of a 'Goddess of the Underworld', and more of a caretaker and ruler of a benighted and forsaken realm where those abandoned by the gods languish into eternity... point is, if he 'becomes' any of them, they can't rally to his side.
@@vijaysamant2864 No, they *both* do that. Indeed, it's one of those interesting bits of mythological correlation between religions that hint at either ancient, cultural cross-pollination, or that some ideas are just universal, occurring independently in different people, in different times and places... In this case, though, there *are* some differences in the fine nuance. Unlike the Ouroboros, Jormungandr doesn't simply 'bite' his own tail, he's actively *eating* it. The story of his 'creation' suggests that he's forever growing, having started out as just a tiny serpent - and that by now, the only reason he hasn't covered the entire world is that he's unknowingly eating himself, keeping himself in check.
I'm placing my bets on it being the actual gum gum fruit and not anything overly grandiose. I think Tekking mentioned this theory that the Nika and Gum gum fruit might've gotten swapped.
@@shpinosel1522said it wasn't in the encyclopedia. Why wouldn't world government hide the gum gum? If anyone heard bout it, found the Nika fruit instead (since that's the one outside Elbaph according to this particular theory), and accidentally awoken it that'd be very bad. It be better to bury it and just tell the few agents you have to the wrong name.
@@shpinosel1522 but if the devil fruit has been passed down the giants royal family, the encyclopedia might not have contained it since nobody knew about it. We do not know how old the encyclopedia is and for how long the legendary devil fruit was passed down the giants royal family, so this certainly is a possibility.
Fenrir would make so much sense!! Loki has his tongue outside just like the wolves from impel down. And also just look at the wolves' eyes are cringled
Blud how bout Jabra??? He is a wolf too, why make a mythical wolf while you also have a similar type of user (A fox-like creature) Yamato. I could be wrong cuz I'm in Ep 850 still
As cool as that could be, it's kinda to dull for how hyped they make this "legendary" fruit seem. This must be something truly game changing with all the stuff around it. Also we already got a wolf fruit. And Oda does not reuse concepts.
Since Loki is a trickster what if he tricked the giants into chaining up the wrong person? In Viking mythology hodr was a blind son of Odin who’s powers was winter, darkness and warriors Hodr was blind like Loki was in the recent chapter, it was snowing where he was in the chapter, they did say Loki had something to do with darkness in the chapter and nika is the warrior of liberation and hodr has stuff related to warriors Plus in Viking mythology hodr was tricked by Loki
@@TG-496 i mean, the chained guy called himself Loki, and luffy went there because he sensed something powerful from him, it could be an illusion yes, and that guy might be the wrong guy, because there's not enough info for anything about any of it, everything is possible with as little info as we have rn.
Imagine one (!) dragon fruit (which was a fish fruit...) making it overused. It would be more confusing if after all the mentioned dragons there is just one dragon fruit. Even more if you think about how devilfruits came to exist. I think more than one person wouldve dreamed of becoming a dragon.
@@joelhofmann5840 but it does not make sense story wise. Why the hell would Oda create two antagonists with basically the same powers.... Thats not the Oda we know, especially in such short time, we have just been in Wano. That would just be bad story telling and uncreative.
@@stespi99 two dragons could have two totaly different powers (expect big, strong and flying but any flying being wouldve that) imo. Even more of one was just a fish fish fruit and not a "real" dragon fruit. It wouldnt be mad if it was a dragon and I think most wouldnt. Maybe it would be a bit short but in the bigger picture it would be nice to have a dragon in the last war and Im not so sure if Kaido is alive at this point (if he would join).
@@joelhofmann5840 You want a dragon in the last war? There is this guy called Momonosuke...... I think you get caught up with the fish thing. It is called like that because of a japanese legend, where a koi (fish) swam up a river and then the gods granted him the ability to transform into a dragon. Plus the fruit it called "fish-fish fruit: azure DRAGON".
An advanced counterpart of the Mane Mane that grants complete shape-shifting into any animal or inanimate object as well as people. Note: in the Norse canon, Loki is the most prolific shapeshifter. Taking the forms of a salmon, a horsefly, a seal, a mare, a maiden and a hermitess.
I think Rodo gave us a clue with his skull mask, as he cosplay as the "sun-god" in his mini-Elbaph. My bet is on a mythical Elk Elk fruit model Wendigo.
I think Loki has the real Gomu gomu no mi lol. Maybe Elbaph was protecting the Nika fruit and someone came in and switched it with the gomu gomu. Then Whos Who somehow ended up with it. My only reason for believing this is Loki keeps saying he's the sun god. Maybe it's cause he's stretchy
Just because VegaPunk says it doesn’t exist doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist… it just hasn’t been recorded . Y’all do know that two cp9 agents ate fruits that were completely unknown
I beg to defer, Oda is showing us various people claiming to be the Sun God, this might be due to old lore and stories left behind by people, and the original Sun God might not be the same as the lore or old story about him suggest. Parallel to Luffy who does not know he is the Sun God and people having different powers claiming to be Sun God.
Still personally think that Loki is not the bad guy but merely being presented as the bad guy. That there is a lot of context missing as Loki is actually Luffy's biggest or one of his biggest allies in this story arc against the real threat....a bad Thor like character
God of war, Elbaph abilities (I think this god of war would be an amalgamation of Odin, Ymir and Surtr): Ultimate shapeshifting: Like Loki and the grand majority of the Aesir god are capable of shapeshifting into different animals and people. The best of them where Loki and Odin themselves. So, the user could have a shapeshifting ability better than any devil fruit in the world. Turning into any person (no matter how big or small or whether male or female), animal (even mythical monsters like Fenrir) or just changing into other races. Even copying that beast or race's biological attributes/abilities. Size manipulation: It's a giant fruit so he could become bigger, but this fruit would allow him to go a few km big just to use this sword. Making him the biggest giant of them all in his true height. Asexual reproduction/beast creation: Like Ymir, he could create giants out of his flesh (the myth is much too gross to put in the story) even creating clones of himself or mythical beast to fight for him like Fenrir or Jormungandr. Even possibly making plants, minerals, or weather like what they used with Ymir's body to create the world and the world tree. Immense stat amp: self explanitory. Intuitive knowledge/learning: Like Odin (who gave his eye to drink from Mimir's lake for knowledge and hung himself on Yggdrasil for 9 days to truly understand the runes), the fruit would grant him an Intuitive understanding of what Elbaph studied. This could include the ponaglyphs, Rune/runic magic, science, combat or other things. Basically, Sylar's power from Heroes. Runic Magic/Power replication: This would be what makes this power truly unique and why they had to bandage up Loki's eyes. The power would work like this: when the user observes a devil fruit user or fighter using their abilities in battle to fully analyze their ability to comprehend how their power works. The fruit then teaches the user the basic uses of the ability so they don't hurt themselves when using it. When that is done, the fruit gives the user a rune or combination of runes that lets them use this ability they observe, whether it be a logia or paramecia fruit. Basically, making any df power the user encounters he could copy it and tern this power into a rune spell that he can use to trick people or fight people as equals. This would be Loki's bag of tricks and would be the reason for why his eyes are bandaged (also they might as well pored burning snake venom in his eyes like in the myth or just have a snake over his head constantly poring drops of venom in his eyes to be myth accurate). Its powered by observing the power with direct eye contact or extremely powerful observation haki. It wouldn't be permanent access and if it is permanent, the runes would need specific uses like actual spells. Regenerative powers: All Aesir can regenerate to a degree. Weapon creation: he is a war god, so he could just make weapons out of his body. Berserker State: Odin was the god of berserkers as well, so this fruit could give a berserker state that give an 10x stat boost in exchange for not being able to use the mystic powers of the fruit and the loss his mind while being in the state. He could make people in this berserker state as well Fire and Ice manipulation: would make sense considering that Surtr was the first fire giant, and Ymir was the first ice giant. Also, I just want to see that country sized sword on fire. He might have let himself get captured because he might use the voice of all things on Yggdrasil to study the information and runic magic(like how odin hung himself on Yggdrasil for 9 years to study the runes) in his time chained to to world tree and just waiting for the right moment to break out and use this new skill of runic magic and info from Yggdrasil.
I like that theres alot of options that makes sense for Loki's df, it reminds me of when everyone was making their guesses for which faction saved the egghead researchers and was showing up in egghead
I don't think he has a fruit I think he unalived his dad to get it but didn't. I think the Legendary Fruit was the Sun God Nika fruit left by Joy Boy. They said he turned to darkness so I believe Imu and Elders probably tricked him into taking it and taught or gave him those demon powers to fight his father. If he does have a DF I think it will be the Moon God, Forest God, or human model Surtr. Moon works well with Loki Forest works well with Elbaf Surtr makes sense lore wise with Loki meaning fire. And it will make sense to why his brother wanted Ace's Fire Fruit.
I love the god of war elbaf fruit theory so much, the talk about him choosing who wins and this can lead to some sort of probability manipulation that can make illusions
It can be possible that Loki is actually is like the privious photo that seen in previous chapter told by lola . And Loki killed his father and get the fruit that make anybody a great warrior and change its physical body also, so as we know Loki's brother is weak as knocked by luffy in one punch so it can be that Loki is even weaker than that so he killed is father to obtain power greater than his brother and everyone . 😊
Well I hope it’s the Dog Dog Fruit Model: Fenrir because it kinda makes sense for Loki to have. Also it would be so cool for a Devil Fruit to have in One Piece plus it would be my favorite 😁 10:56
Loki can't be the opponent of Luffy as his bounty is already less than Luffy and we know that all the prominent antagonist that faced against Luffy are higher on bounty
15:25 thank you I’ve been waiting for the God Elbaph theory to get some traction I saw someone explain it a couple days ago and havnt seen anything on it since (it’s my favorite theory for his DF so far)
I'm glad to hear You Say it.Because almost everyone else keeps shooting me down with the idea of Fenrir Being his devil fruit. I'm still completely open to the idea of it Being something else, but that's my number one pick for sure.
Oh god, you're giving me shades of the bad writing in later seasons of Once Upon a Time. Whenever a writer starts gushing about how amazing "writers" are and writes that into the story, they've lost the plot.
I wonder if one of your cute ideas was the Legendary Logia Fimbulwinter. The agility to cast 3 back to back winters over the world, that is the precursor to Ragnorok
How are you gonna say Surtr, but not Farbauti? Which is an Ice Giant. Which fits perfectly with Norse Loki being a Jotunn as well. And IRL mythology he was Loki's pops.
Nidhogg Devil fruit actually make sense. Remember Kaido's tattoo resembles a dragon scale; a foreshadowing of his DF. Loki also has a tattoo of winged creature.
I think it's Mythical Zoan Model: Odin. Oda's silhouette for Loki had three horns and that's Odin's emblem (three horns). And Odin's powers include shapeshifting which still matches with Loki. I think his eyes are covered because he has some form of foresight like the all-knowing all- seeing wise Odin, perhaps Future Sight Haki to a degree we have never seen. Furthermore, it could go even further to the point that he has Odin's creation magic and Loki's illusion magic (hence the need for his eyes) Another note to branch off of: The three horn symbol is supposed to represent the three realms of material existence: water, earth, and sky. Or in another sense the physical, spiritual, and celestial.
What if like Loki has the Sun - god fruit like he claims but it is the personalization of a different phase of the sun like luffy has the fruit of the rising sun(symbolizing hope and liberation) and Loki has the fruit of the scorching sun(causing wildfires and burning everything in its path) kin of like different personalities of Ra from Egyptian myths
Watch it be something Simple. Logia Fruit Model Sun Sun. You might also want to not hyper focus on the sun and look at things like dawn and Dusk. The Dusk Dusk fruit has a nice ring to it.
Alot of things people don't realise about norse mythology is that fenrir wasn't the only one bound to prevent ragnarok. Loki himself was bound to a stone as the prophecy fortold him killing Baulder which is one of the key events that causes the end of the world to begin. It was said that "Loki was bound to a stone (by the entrails of his own children in some sources) to server as punishment." This binding to a stone literally mirrors Loki's one piece introduction which makes me believe that the Fenrir fruit is less likely. This leads me to believe that what his fruit is if tied to norse mythology is more likely the surtr fruit but I personly hope that we see Elbaf leaning away from the mythical zoan route and more towards a legandary lugia classification here. This would make him much more of an interesting threat and something very different to Kido and the Elder Stars who have both served as main antagonist of the last two arcs who all possessed some monsterous form. I mean think of the monsterous raw strength of a Giant with the untouchable nature of a lugia while have some new unknown legendary property which we have never seen before.
Given how in some Norse myths Loki captained a ship made of dead fingernails with the dead & monsters on it and would explain the giant grim reaper in Wano Country with it being the transformation Loki takes as well as him summoning Jorgmangandur like the Dragon Zord from Power Rangers and other monsters during Ragnarok if he did eat the Hel fruit or Shi-Shi no mi or Death Devil Fruit as Odin was the god of death.
My theory is Hito Hito Nomi - Model:Surtur/Fire Demon which in ragnarok/norse mythology , the one who destroyed the asgard/elbaph Hito Hito Nomi - Model:Surtur/Fire Demon - this devil fruit is a legendary fruit that is similar to ryokugyu greenbull it has property of logia and zoan My theory is it has normal color of yellow to orange fire/magma which is why giants from elbaph said that luffy kinda look like Sun God of elbaph and one of the giants want to get ace flame fruit to equal the power of the elbaph sun god which is not enough even in a full/awaken fruit
Theory- I think Loki has the forest god fruit which has been passed down for generations and generations since It’s first user used it to create the tree on elbaf.
I think the Giants have a thing on becoming a Sun God. Road also try to play as the Sun God. Wano Arc put emphasis on how Haki with strong will can surpass all. Maybe this arc will put an emphasis on how someone with a devil fruit power can bend reality when combined with strong will.
Idea for a theory that you might’ve done before: what if Blackbeard killed luffy back in mock town and ace was able to never get captured, causing luffy to be dead before sky island, and ace staying alive past marineford, if you haven’t done it I think it would be a good theory😊
surtr would make sense too, and could explain onigashima as its a giant skull with horns, if you could become giant fire giant(with the horns) then it could be an previous user if it.
Wouldnt be surprised if everything we've seen of elbaf so far was Loki's perception haki. We already had a showcase of armament and supreme haki during the wano arc, and Luffy and Zoro have shown their growth in the Egghead arc. Perception haki has been pretty lack luster (other than that one Ussop moment, Whole Cake arc, and that one Shanks scene) so getting some more focus here would be pretty cool, especially if Loki really did steal Odin's eye.
For the amount of deer skulls that have shown up it makes me think it may be a Wendigo with a flame aspect it also would explain why he would take it for himself (with the idea of a wendigos are created from going insane in the cold and eating people) and why he would need to be locked up.
I'm calling it. Usopp finally gets his hyped shine by being the one to beat Loki this arc...by lying/tricking him. Usopp out-mischiefs the god of mischief.
There can only be 2, the dragon Fafnir or the wolf Fenrir, look. When Loki killed Odder, Hreidmar received the cursed gold from Andvari as a way to mitigate his son's death. Regin and Fafner "killed their father" "to get the gold," but the latter decided he wanted it all for himself. He retired with the gold to the Gnita Heath, turning into a dragon (a symbol of greed). PS: He is surrounded by wolves, he sticks out his tongue like Doffy and he is chained like Fenrir, but like Fafner he killed his father and robbed him, so it could be either of the 2.
Loki joins the straw hats?..... I can't see any scenario where someone can kill the king become free and accepted unless he gets banished from Elbaf like Big Mom
something to think about: Zeus and Prometheus, 1 uses fire and 1 uses lightning, lokis brother is thor, a lightning user (in Norse mythology i mean.) and loki called himself the sun god, also why did big mom name her sun and cloud guys Zeus and Prometheus?? shes from elbaf, maybe its a hint. i think the prometheus one is pretty likely tbh.
The Surtr/Prometheus theory makes sense since Loki is associated with fire in Norse Mythology, having given humanity fire as one of his pranks to the gods. So he has a lot in common with Prometheus.
he has some typa fruit that lets him control others like Road, making him into something he's not really. That's why Road called himself the Sun God. Or I think Road is working for Loki, eventually betraying and possibly unaliving Hajrudin. Loki might've manipulated Road into capturing Luffy and them to test their strength.
I wanted to explain a few reasons about why Loki has a Special Bounty, why there are Multiple Sun God fruits represented by times of the day and different cultures and the fact Oda already showed us 1 of the other 4 but not telling us because the country's name gives it away. first, I travel to Japan often to see a friend and know the name Wanokuni means the "Land of Peace." There, they also have a Sun god although they know Joyboy as a visitor, Kaido knew he couldn't let any of it's citizens have the mythical guardian zoan: Inu Inu model Okuchi no Makami but those knowing Japanese folklore should know Amaterasu takes form in the shape of an Okami to Observe humans occassionally. Yamato just like Luffy has a white awakening Ribbon which Kaido wasn't surprised to see but knew it only belonged to Zoans. Yamato didn't go crazy even with a Mythical Cranivorous Zoan representing Peacetime Aka Night. Luffy's Diety is Nika who in Brazillian folklore people worshipped to liberate them from harsh situations and in One Piece Represents Dawn. This leaves 2 options due to Oda liking to make sets of 3 or 4, Loki will have Hito Hito no Mi model Sol, which is the Norse Sun God Representing High Noon AKA war or some fruit representing dusk as the fallout of war. As for Loki, the Giant's bounties and how their tied to the World Government due to "Mother Caramel" and by proxy Big Mom. Mother Caramel was the supplier of Giants to the marines by putting on shows that look like miracles to giants and letting them go before execution after grooming them. The house of Lambs was essentially a World Government supply of rare specimens held in Elbaf before Big Mom ate mother Caramel. When she did there were 2 witnesses, a marine patrol and Strussen which is why she had a child bounty. She was exiled from Elbaf due to her psychological issues but later attempted to patch it up with Loki by marrying Lola with Loki. Being monitored this left the Government to make a cautionary bounty on Loki because he may try to Avenge Big Mom if he knew anything happens to her so they also pinned the loss of their giant supply due to the fall of house of lambs on Loki. As for Dorry and Broggy, they literally were willing accomplices in destroying Egghead so there was no way were not getting a bounty. As for how Loki got the fruit, he seems relatively new to relying on Devil Fruit's but is strong without it due to Shank's probably being the one to chain him to Yyggdrasil but due to sea prism he was weakened and easily subdued. I believe there was supposed to be a succession ceremony after Harjudinn was turned into a toy but due to Doflamingo turning him into a toy the fruit passed to first sons was given to Loki because people forgot about his existence. I'm sure the giants feel regret giving it to the wrong son but Harjudin seems too humble to care and forgave them but Loki went on Local rampages so people steer away from him.
So throwing my hat here, what if its based on Mimir, a figure that tried to rival Odin on knowledge, which Odin tricked, asking a question only Odin himself would be able to answer, and odin had strapped to a tree. Several elements seem to overlap with loki rivaling odin and being tied up. It might be a knowledge based or even a future sight based that gives the user. knowledge of the future ability.
When people are creating videos with theories do you guys really believe people just watch other people’s vids while doing their own? Cause that’s what it sounds like. Let him cook
@@Lafkoko Yes, he did, and this could be one of those theories that actually turns out to be true. But again, this is a theory, and nothing has been confirmed yet, contrary to the title of the video which says we already know what loki's fruit is.
@@ScorpioLuffy I believe Sawyer brought up this point of having another god-like devil fruit in Elbaph, and other people add their own thoughts and create theories. But again, those are just theories. The title of the video says we already know what his fruit powers are, which is not true, as it's just a theory, and nothing has been confirmed yet. Sawyer has couple of some very interesting theories about how Nika fruit and Buccaneer bloodline powers work.
@@ScorpioLuffy well he became famous from translating a theory from a japanese guy, so..!! But he got a couple of good guesses here. Especially, god elbaf, Fenrir, ilussion and the fire demon
What if the reason why he's considered cursed is because he's not fully a giant and is actually a hybrid. He's a mix between a giant and a wolf mink to fit Fenrir and then has a fire like devil fruit to match the idea. Crazy but it would explain the giant wolves around him and not attack him Plus it would allow Oda to get creative with the devil fruit but still match the mythology in a way.
I believe Loki has a fruit with either skoll or hati hroovitnisson abilities, maybe both baked into one. It makes sense because skoll chases the sun, kind of bringing the day, and hati chases the moon, bringing night. Skoll is almost a sun god kind of. While hati is a bringer of darkness, so if both were baked into one fruit, it would make him a slightly considered sun god and a dark bringer all in one.
If they make a bit of mixing of the myth and mix Fenrir with Skoll and and Hati, we might have the reason for why he said he is the sun god, as if he can devour the sun (Nika fruit) whenever he wants too or something like that
When you consider what Vegapunk said how the Devil Fruits were created from the desires of people and we know that Luffy has the Sun God Nika fruit, then it seems extremely likely that every god that has been worshiped throughout One Piece history must have a Devil Fruit. The most common things that large groups of people would want are incarnations of the gods they worship, so at some point all of the major gods should make an appearance and I would not be surprised if Imu has one.
i think with the glowing eyes and heartbreak background story, i feel illusion or changing reality/controlling people mind might be the most sense, and also similar to Nikka power, and also suit loki as God of Trickster. tho he looks very cool, why i feel he's still a "child".
Soweit ich es weiß gibt es auch in der nordischen Mythologie eine Stelle wo Loki angekettet wurde (mit den Innereien seiner eigenen Kinder und Gift wurde konstant in seine Augen getropft das würde die Augenbinde erklären) weil Odin sich vor ihm und seinem Sohn fürchtete (der Wolf). Also müssen die Ketten nicht zwangsläufig auf Prometheus hindeuten. Trotzdem coole Videos, mach weiter so.
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Maybe it's just real gum gum ( rubber rubber) fruit
Because it has been passed down to generation thinking that it is nika fruit that's why world don't know anything about rubber rubber exciting and I can see why loki called himself sun god because his body is rubber like so he should have thought he is sun god nika and that makes more sense to me because luffy will have to know in future that his power's are not just based on rubber but it's imagination itself by fighting loki he will know his power's were never rubber it was imagination
What do you think of my speculation or theory Ohara please reply does it make sense ok not
I feel like he basically has a watered down kyoka suigetsu XD
Ur a great person definitely gonna support
Surtr makes the most sense to me. Loki calls himself sun god. So a flame giant destined to cause ragnaroak makes more sense. Maybe that's why his brother went to dressrosa to get a flame type devil fruit.
This is the best theory I heard so far
Also the fact that surtr in Norse mythology is the greatest threat of Odin and Asgard set on the true destruction of the 9 realms in ygdrasil tree it makes too much sense for it to not be true
Ur on to something
This was stolen from Grand line reviews video posted yesterday (timestamp 4:40 in grand line reviews video). Literally all this guys points are the same points used in his video.
@@thatonecow546 you don't need to watch someone's video to connect all the dots. I'm a fan of mavel movies. I watched Thor Ragnaroak in 2018. That's where I got the idea of surtur. Or do you think that only content creators come up with theories?
Loki has the goose-goose-fruit. It turns him into a very agressive goose🪿
I think goose are the most scary animals ..if you have ever been chased by one
an untitled goose fruit
@@iStoicVAI love this only because when I read the first comment I heard the honk honk off the goose
Honk
Or a silly goose
...as someone who grew up with the tales of the Norse Gods and monsters, I can't help but correct a few details and add some more. Firstly, Fenris wasn't chained beneath the roots of Yggdrasill - might be mixing him up with Nidhogg, who indeed IS stuck down there, gnawing on the Roots of Yggdrasill. Rather, he was lured to a distant island and chained there. Nor does Ragnarok start with him breaking free... rather, it starts with the fire-giants, led by Surtr, charging across Bifrost, the Rainbow-Bridge, to invade Asgard. A bunch of things happen in rapid succession then, including Fenrir breaking his chains, and he does indeed go on to devour Odin during the chaos that follows, but he is not the instigator, nor the main source of the world's destruction.
Another thing I haven't heard mentioned regarding this version of Loki... the situation he's in seems to be based on Loki's End - the story of what happened to Loki after all his adventures through Norse Mythology. Long story short, he manages to finally piss off ALL the other Gods, then spends some time trying to escape their wrath, but gets cornered in the end. For his crimes, he was then chained in a chamber beneath the Earth... wrapped in thick anchor-chain, three millstones, and the sinew of his son. (The last-mentioned being to prevent him from shapeshifting his way out of this predicament.) Not satisfied with this, however, the goddess Frigga - whose most beloved son, Baldr, had died as a result of Loki's machinations - set a pair of venomous serpents in the ceiling above the stone table where Loki lay chained. They would constantly drip corrosive venom into his eyes, torturing him... though, fortunately, his wife remained staunchly by his side, holding a bowl over his face to capture the venom. Only when she had to empty out the bowl would a few drops fall into his eyes, making him tremble and shudder so mightily in pain that the very earth shook above him... causing *earthquakes.* So, maybe there's some connection, there, to this Loki's bandaged eyes? Shame the Earthquake Fruit is already taken, or it would suit him just perfectly, at least from a mythological standpoint.
But, when Ragnarok comes, he will finally escape his imprisonment, and join Surtr's assault on Asgard... even as his three monstrous children rush to his side. Fenris will break his chains, and bound across the heavens, devouring the sun and the moon - before facing off against Odin himself, and likewise devouring him... before Odin's oft-forgotten son, Vidar - the clubfooted God of Hunters - avenges his father's death by breaking Fenris' neck with his foot. Jormungandr, the great World-Serpent who encircles Midgar, chewing endlessly on his own tail, will rise from waters whipped to froth by the falling pieces of Bifrost - it was shattered by the hooves of Surtr's cavalry, striking land and sea alike with the fury of falling stars - and fight a final battle with Thor the Thunderer, which will leave them both dead. And as the waves of Ragnarok was high upon the shores of Niflheimr, Hel's realm, it will lift loose the mighty ship Naglfar, built from the nails of countless dead men, and carry Hel and her ghostly army of the Unworthy Dead to join the battle as well...
...but there's zero mention of Nidhogg in any of this. Nor does he have any connection whatsoever to Loki in any of the myths, beyond perhaps being a neighbor of Hel, Loki's daughter? Some myths suggest that Nidhogg guards the only exit from Niflheim, though even then, it seems more like he's just... *living* there, rather than actively working with Hel. So, from a mythological perspective, I don't really buy the Nidhogg-Fruit idea. A Surtr-fruit, or more likely, just a 'Model: Fire-Giant' kind of setup, makes more sense since Surtr IS the instigator of Ragnarok, a monarch in his own right, and the main source of the world's destruction. (He and his Fire-Giants burn the world to ashes as they march, and Surtr himself slays Frey, the God of Fertility, symbolically rendering the world barren.) He's also kind of a... non-entity, at least in terms of surviving myths - we don't really know much of anything about him other than what is mentioned in the Prophecy of Ragnarok, so conflating him with Loki wouldn't really be a great loss. More to the point, if Oda wants to depict Loki in his full fury - the long-chained God, once known as Silvertongue or Lie-Smith, now a furious avenger stalking into the Final War with hatred in his heart - he needs to be able to call his children *to his side.* So, a great wolf, a great sea-serpent, and... Hel. Her right half, a beautiful woman - her left half, a rotting corpse. A symbol of how we all stand astride the grave - less of a 'Goddess of the Underworld', and more of a caretaker and ruler of a benighted and forsaken realm where those abandoned by the gods languish into eternity... point is, if he 'becomes' any of them, they can't rally to his side.
@@BlakeTheDrake amazing comment, absolutely amazing. I'm glad you took the time to write this
The shape shifting fruit sounds reasonable for he might be chain up in see presom stone to prevent him from shape shifting how that sound
Nice info, just wanted to add that:
World-Serpent does not bite its own tail, it's oroborus.
@@vijaysamant2864 No, they *both* do that. Indeed, it's one of those interesting bits of mythological correlation between religions that hint at either ancient, cultural cross-pollination, or that some ideas are just universal, occurring independently in different people, in different times and places...
In this case, though, there *are* some differences in the fine nuance. Unlike the Ouroboros, Jormungandr doesn't simply 'bite' his own tail, he's actively *eating* it. The story of his 'creation' suggests that he's forever growing, having started out as just a tiny serpent - and that by now, the only reason he hasn't covered the entire world is that he's unknowingly eating himself, keeping himself in check.
Wasn’t it Skadi who put snakes above Loki? Correct me if I’m wrong
Loki is blind that's why he fell for Lola
or he just wants to work with bigmom pirates
@@ihsandfkrurroziLoki sees Lola, sees Big Mom before having 20+ kids, looks at Lola again.
Loki: Okay, 20 kids is the limit, before things go south
I'm placing my bets on it being the actual gum gum fruit and not anything overly grandiose. I think Tekking mentioned this theory that the Nika and Gum gum fruit might've gotten swapped.
vegapunk said that the gum gum fruit didnt even exist
@@shpinosel1522said it wasn't in the encyclopedia. Why wouldn't world government hide the gum gum? If anyone heard bout it, found the Nika fruit instead (since that's the one outside Elbaph according to this particular theory), and accidentally awoken it that'd be very bad. It be better to bury it and just tell the few agents you have to the wrong name.
@@shpinosel1522 but if the devil fruit has been passed down the giants royal family, the encyclopedia might not have contained it since nobody knew about it. We do not know how old the encyclopedia is and for how long the legendary devil fruit was passed down the giants royal family, so this certainly is a possibility.
Then, what happen to Nika fruit after being swapped then? Stole by CP9?
@@farishakim6759 no, the name of it. Not the physical fruit itself. They just been calling it the wrong name.
Fenrir would make so much sense!! Loki has his tongue outside just like the wolves from impel down. And also just look at the wolves' eyes are cringled
@@arneybejanon344 that's my guess
Blud how bout Jabra??? He is a wolf too, why make a mythical wolf while you also have a similar type of user (A fox-like creature) Yamato. I could be wrong cuz I'm in Ep 850 still
As cool as that could be, it's kinda to dull for how hyped they make this "legendary" fruit seem.
This must be something truly game changing with all the stuff around it.
Also we already got a wolf fruit. And Oda does not reuse concepts.
@@beatriceelias3278 maaan don’t spoil yourself.. keep it up 🔥
sawyer7mage already came up with this theory, kinda stolen content tbh
Since Loki is a trickster what if he tricked the giants into chaining up the wrong person? In Viking mythology hodr was a blind son of Odin who’s powers was winter, darkness and warriors
Hodr was blind like Loki was in the recent chapter, it was snowing where he was in the chapter, they did say Loki had something to do with darkness in the chapter and nika is the warrior of liberation and hodr has stuff related to warriors
Plus in Viking mythology hodr was tricked by Loki
No
thats a good theory
@@ItzPmacDoh44 well I mean what proof do you have that I’m wrong?
@@strixd. thanks!
@@TG-496 i mean, the chained guy called himself Loki, and luffy went there because he sensed something powerful from him, it could be an illusion yes, and that guy might be the wrong guy, because there's not enough info for anything about any of it, everything is possible with as little info as we have rn.
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"RAAAHHHHH I'm a mythical/ancient creature" has been like the last 15 villains I really hope it's like a logia
@bigfourtweny well I think it's the logia fruit forest forest:model yggdrasil since there is suppose to be a forest god in the one piece world
Before anything else, I'm a 100% Loki fan since his first appearance
It’s not going to be a dragon bro…
It’s overused
Imagine one (!) dragon fruit (which was a fish fruit...) making it overused. It would be more confusing if after all the mentioned dragons there is just one dragon fruit. Even more if you think about how devilfruits came to exist. I think more than one person wouldve dreamed of becoming a dragon.
@@joelhofmann5840 exactly
@@joelhofmann5840 but it does not make sense story wise. Why the hell would Oda create two antagonists with basically the same powers.... Thats not the Oda we know, especially in such short time, we have just been in Wano. That would just be bad story telling and uncreative.
@@stespi99 two dragons could have two totaly different powers (expect big, strong and flying but any flying being wouldve that) imo. Even more of one was just a fish fish fruit and not a "real" dragon fruit.
It wouldnt be mad if it was a dragon and I think most wouldnt.
Maybe it would be a bit short but in the bigger picture it would be nice to have a dragon in the last war and Im not so sure if Kaido is alive at this point (if he would join).
@@joelhofmann5840 You want a dragon in the last war? There is this guy called Momonosuke......
I think you get caught up with the fish thing. It is called like that because of a japanese legend, where a koi (fish) swam up a river and then the gods granted him the ability to transform into a dragon. Plus the fruit it called "fish-fish fruit: azure DRAGON".
Its probably the Badass Badass No Mi, Model: Nutbreaker
To be honest, he could just have a Loki-Based devil fruit, like the Chaos fruit or something
I mean an illusion fruit could be that just because you know it's all about being a trickster
An advanced counterpart of the Mane Mane that grants complete shape-shifting into any animal or inanimate object as well as people.
Note: in the Norse canon, Loki is the most prolific shapeshifter. Taking the forms of a salmon, a horsefly, a seal, a mare, a maiden and a hermitess.
Wonder of u
I`d think about a Trickster fruit
I was thinking somthing like this. Loki could be named after the fruit. trick trick fruit model loki
I think Rodo gave us a clue with his skull mask, as he cosplay as the "sun-god" in his mini-Elbaph.
My bet is on a mythical Elk Elk fruit model Wendigo.
I think Loki has the real Gomu gomu no mi lol. Maybe Elbaph was protecting the Nika fruit and someone came in and switched it with the gomu gomu. Then Whos Who somehow ended up with it. My only reason for believing this is Loki keeps saying he's the sun god. Maybe it's cause he's stretchy
@@BenD_Bass According to Vegapunk the Gum Gum fruit does not exist in the devilfruit encyclopedia
According to vegapunk the Gum Gum fruit does not exist
If the giants have been keeping it to themselves for hundreds of years, it might not be included in the encyclopedia@@wernerheisenberg4386
Just because VegaPunk says it doesn’t exist doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist… it just hasn’t been recorded . Y’all do know that two cp9 agents ate fruits that were completely unknown
I beg to defer, Oda is showing us various people claiming to be the Sun God, this might be due to old lore and stories left behind by people, and the original Sun God might not be the same as the lore or old story about him suggest. Parallel to Luffy who does not know he is the Sun God and people having different powers claiming to be Sun God.
You know a manga is peak when there’s so much intrigue and discussions on every aspect such as the story’s lore. ❤
LOKI is definitely a member of the D. Clan. Look at the smile on that man's face 🤫🤩
Still personally think that Loki is not the bad guy but merely being presented as the bad guy. That there is a lot of context missing as Loki is actually Luffy's biggest or one of his biggest allies in this story arc against the real threat....a bad Thor like character
I'm stuck between believing this and believing that Luffy is just gonna see good in him that doesn't exist and end up freeing him
nah I feel like enel could actually be carrying the thor fruit
20:00 the Dragon on the sail also seems to have "The Horns" on its head from loki's helmet.
I really like the idea of it being based on any of Loki’s children or maybe one of the named frost giants from the mythology.
God of war, Elbaph abilities (I think this god of war would be an amalgamation of Odin, Ymir and Surtr):
Ultimate shapeshifting: Like Loki and the grand majority of the Aesir god are capable of shapeshifting into different animals and people. The best of them where Loki and Odin themselves. So, the user could have a shapeshifting ability better than any devil fruit in the world. Turning into any person (no matter how big or small or whether male or female), animal (even mythical monsters like Fenrir) or just changing into other races. Even copying that beast or race's biological attributes/abilities.
Size manipulation: It's a giant fruit so he could become bigger, but this fruit would allow him to go a few km big just to use this sword. Making him the biggest giant of them all in his true height.
Asexual reproduction/beast creation: Like Ymir, he could create giants out of his flesh (the myth is much too gross to put in the story) even creating clones of himself or mythical beast to fight for him like Fenrir or Jormungandr. Even possibly making plants, minerals, or weather like what they used with Ymir's body to create the world and the world tree.
Immense stat amp: self explanitory.
Intuitive knowledge/learning: Like Odin (who gave his eye to drink from Mimir's lake for knowledge and hung himself on Yggdrasil for 9 days to truly understand the runes), the fruit would grant him an Intuitive understanding of what Elbaph studied. This could include the ponaglyphs, Rune/runic magic, science, combat or other things. Basically, Sylar's power from Heroes.
Runic Magic/Power replication: This would be what makes this power truly unique and why they had to bandage up Loki's eyes. The power would work like this: when the user observes a devil fruit user or fighter using their abilities in battle to fully analyze their ability to comprehend how their power works. The fruit then teaches the user the basic uses of the ability so they don't hurt themselves when using it. When that is done, the fruit gives the user a rune or combination of runes that lets them use this ability they observe, whether it be a logia or paramecia fruit. Basically, making any df power the user encounters he could copy it and tern this power into a rune spell that he can use to trick people or fight people as equals. This would be Loki's bag of tricks and would be the reason for why his eyes are bandaged (also they might as well pored burning snake venom in his eyes like in the myth or just have a snake over his head constantly poring drops of venom in his eyes to be myth accurate). Its powered by observing the power with direct eye contact or extremely powerful observation haki. It wouldn't be permanent access and if it is permanent, the runes would need specific uses like actual spells.
Regenerative powers: All Aesir can regenerate to a degree.
Weapon creation: he is a war god, so he could just make weapons out of his body.
Berserker State: Odin was the god of berserkers as well, so this fruit could give a berserker state that give an 10x stat boost in exchange for not being able to use the mystic powers of the fruit and the loss his mind while being in the state. He could make people in this berserker state as well
Fire and Ice manipulation: would make sense considering that Surtr was the first fire giant, and Ymir was the first ice giant. Also, I just want to see that country sized sword on fire.
He might have let himself get captured because he might use the voice of all things on Yggdrasil to study the information and runic magic(like how odin hung himself on Yggdrasil for 9 years to study the runes) in his time chained to to world tree and just waiting for the right moment to break out and use this new skill of runic magic and info from Yggdrasil.
I like that theres alot of options that makes sense for Loki's df, it reminds me of when everyone was making their guesses for which faction saved the egghead researchers and was showing up in egghead
Great options for possible devil fruits i actually really like the Nidhog theory
I don't think he has a fruit
I think he unalived his dad to get it but didn't.
I think the Legendary Fruit was the Sun God Nika fruit left by Joy Boy.
They said he turned to darkness so I believe Imu and Elders probably tricked him into taking it and taught or gave him those demon powers to fight his father.
If he does have a DF I think it will be the Moon God, Forest God, or human model Surtr.
Moon works well with Loki
Forest works well with Elbaf
Surtr makes sense lore wise with Loki meaning fire. And it will make sense to why his brother wanted Ace's Fire Fruit.
That dragon being an ancient weapon would go crazy
Fenrir was also chained up in Norse mythology. Could be the Inu Inu no mi mythical type model Fenrir! 😂👍
I love the god of war elbaf fruit theory so much, the talk about him choosing who wins and this can lead to some sort of probability manipulation that can make illusions
It would make sense if Shanks helps lock Loki up since he only has one arm and would more or less be playing the role of Tyr
I ❤ those theory breakdowns. Much more than all the "what if...?" videos.
Human human Model Trickster God - P
Nuke nuke model Sun - L
Wolf Wolf model Fenrir(Skol/Hati?) - Z
Idk mayne
I'm a huge fan of All of your ideas very awesome
Shape Shifting Devil fruit make More sense for Loki He can Transform into any animal he wants too
Gonna suggest then few episodes later “oda blew our expectation”
Ever since the introduction of Mythical Zoan, everybody keep throwing this model model mythical beings 😅
It can be possible that Loki is actually is like the privious photo that seen in previous chapter told by lola .
And Loki killed his father and get the fruit that make anybody a great warrior and change its physical body also, so as we know Loki's brother is weak as knocked by luffy in one punch so it can be that Loki is even weaker than that so he killed is father to obtain power greater than his brother and everyone . 😊
Well I hope it’s the Dog Dog Fruit Model: Fenrir because it kinda makes sense for Loki to have. Also it would be so cool for a Devil Fruit to have in One Piece plus it would be my favorite 😁 10:56
Loki can't be the opponent of Luffy as his bounty is already less than Luffy
and we know that all the prominent antagonist that faced against Luffy are higher on bounty
15:25 thank you I’ve been waiting for the God Elbaph theory to get some traction I saw someone explain it a couple days ago and havnt seen anything on it since (it’s my favorite theory for his DF so far)
If the nika fruit is passed down to generations of loki family then joy boy may be a gaint right?
Someone explain it
The Devil Fruit is so powerful, it contorts the contrast of your video. The video's so sharp my eyes started bleeding my dude
The most obvious is Fenrir. but knowing Oda, probably not.
I'm glad to hear You Say it.Because almost everyone else keeps shooting me down with the idea of Fenrir Being his devil fruit. I'm still completely open to the idea of it Being something else, but that's my number one pick for sure.
loki has a paramecia called write-write fruit, where you become the OP/author and writes any bullshit for himself
@@asdf0747 that would be to powerful he’d be more powerful than Imu the main antagonist 💀
Oh god, you're giving me shades of the bad writing in later seasons of Once Upon a Time. Whenever a writer starts gushing about how amazing "writers" are and writes that into the story, they've lost the plot.
basically yhwach's almighty? :D
Thats literally nika fruit and if you watched liams video. It makes sense lol
I could never get tired of dragons bro
Hito-Hito Model Heimdall. Can see everything coming.
I wonder if one of your cute ideas was the Legendary Logia Fimbulwinter. The agility to cast 3 back to back winters over the world, that is the precursor to Ragnorok
Gut feeling, Loki devil fruit, hito hito no mi, model HERCULES
How are you gonna say Surtr, but not Farbauti? Which is an Ice Giant. Which fits perfectly with Norse Loki being a Jotunn as well. And IRL mythology he was Loki's pops.
Maybe because of this hairudin wanted the flame fruit.
I’m gonna call it, elbaf is gonna be the sunny’s arc
Nidhogg Devil fruit actually make sense. Remember Kaido's tattoo resembles a dragon scale; a foreshadowing of his DF. Loki also has a tattoo of winged creature.
I think it's Mythical Zoan Model: Odin.
Oda's silhouette for Loki had three horns and that's Odin's emblem (three horns).
And Odin's powers include shapeshifting which still matches with Loki.
I think his eyes are covered because he has some form of foresight like the all-knowing all- seeing wise Odin, perhaps Future Sight Haki to a degree we have never seen.
Furthermore, it could go even further to the point that he has Odin's creation magic and Loki's illusion magic (hence the need for his eyes)
Another note to branch off of: The three horn symbol is supposed to represent the three realms of material existence: water, earth, and sky. Or in another sense the physical, spiritual, and celestial.
His helmet is the original Lokis helmet so his power will be based on types of manipulation through his eyes etc...
Probably another snap shifting fruit.
But this one can do beasts and objects.
@Ohara-the-Fox My theory is that Loki's devil fruit will be forest god because oda hinted us in sykpeia ark there are 4 god in one piece 😮😮😮❤
What if like Loki has the Sun - god fruit like he claims but it is the personalization of a different phase of the sun like luffy has the fruit of the rising sun(symbolizing hope and liberation) and Loki has the fruit of the scorching sun(causing wildfires and burning everything in its path) kin of like different personalities of Ra from Egyptian myths
why is no one speaking of the "basic idea" of the Berserker Fruit that awakens makes him the "God of War" in Elbaphs myths?!
Keep up the amazing work and videos
Watch it be something Simple. Logia Fruit Model Sun Sun. You might also want to not hyper focus on the sun and look at things like dawn and Dusk. The Dusk Dusk fruit has a nice ring to it.
Alot of things people don't realise about norse mythology is that fenrir wasn't the only one bound to prevent ragnarok. Loki himself was bound to a stone as the prophecy fortold him killing Baulder which is one of the key events that causes the end of the world to begin. It was said that "Loki was bound to a stone (by the entrails of his own children in some sources) to server as punishment." This binding to a stone literally mirrors Loki's one piece introduction which makes me believe that the Fenrir fruit is less likely. This leads me to believe that what his fruit is if tied to norse mythology is more likely the surtr fruit but I personly hope that we see Elbaf leaning away from the mythical zoan route and more towards a legandary lugia classification here. This would make him much more of an interesting threat and something very different to Kido and the Elder Stars who have both served as main antagonist of the last two arcs who all possessed some monsterous form. I mean think of the monsterous raw strength of a Giant with the untouchable nature of a lugia while have some new unknown legendary property which we have never seen before.
Given how in some Norse myths Loki captained a ship made of dead fingernails with the dead & monsters on it and would explain the giant grim reaper in Wano Country with it being the transformation Loki takes as well as him summoning Jorgmangandur like the Dragon Zord from Power Rangers and other monsters during Ragnarok if he did eat the Hel fruit or Shi-Shi no mi or Death Devil Fruit as Odin was the god of death.
My theory is Hito Hito Nomi - Model:Surtur/Fire Demon
which in ragnarok/norse mythology , the one who destroyed the asgard/elbaph
Hito Hito Nomi - Model:Surtur/Fire Demon - this devil fruit is a legendary fruit that is similar to ryokugyu greenbull
it has property of logia and zoan
My theory is it has normal color of yellow to orange fire/magma
which is why giants from elbaph said that luffy kinda look like Sun God of elbaph
and one of the giants want to get ace flame fruit to equal the power of the elbaph sun god which is not enough even in a full/awaken fruit
Theory- I think Loki has the forest god fruit which has been passed down for generations and generations since It’s first user used it to create the tree on elbaf.
I think the Giants have a thing on becoming a Sun God. Road also try to play as the Sun God. Wano Arc put emphasis on how Haki with strong will can surpass all. Maybe this arc will put an emphasis on how someone with a devil fruit power can bend reality when combined with strong will.
Idea for a theory that you might’ve done before: what if Blackbeard killed luffy back in mock town and ace was able to never get captured, causing luffy to be dead before sky island, and ace staying alive past marineford, if you haven’t done it I think it would be a good theory😊
Ngl this feels like the weeks we were speculating about luffys fruit and it ended up being something completely different
surtr would make sense too, and could explain onigashima as its a giant skull with horns, if you could become giant fire giant(with the horns) then it could be an previous user if it.
Wouldnt be surprised if everything we've seen of elbaf so far was Loki's perception haki.
We already had a showcase of armament and supreme haki during the wano arc, and Luffy and Zoro have shown their growth in the Egghead arc.
Perception haki has been pretty lack luster (other than that one Ussop moment, Whole Cake arc, and that one Shanks scene) so getting some more focus here would be pretty cool, especially if Loki really did steal Odin's eye.
For the amount of deer skulls that have shown up it makes me think it may be a Wendigo with a flame aspect it also would explain why he would take it for himself (with the idea of a wendigos are created from going insane in the cold and eating people) and why he would need to be locked up.
thats what im hoping its a wendingo that be pretty sick!
I would say it can be related to something to turn him in a Surtur-like monster, who can start the Ragnarok
I'm calling it. Usopp finally gets his hyped shine by being the one to beat Loki this arc...by lying/tricking him. Usopp out-mischiefs the god of mischief.
That gum gum cup you have😂
There can only be 2, the dragon Fafnir or the wolf Fenrir, look.
When Loki killed Odder, Hreidmar received the cursed gold from Andvari as a way to mitigate his son's death. Regin and Fafner "killed their father" "to get the gold," but the latter decided he wanted it all for himself. He retired with the gold to the Gnita Heath, turning into a dragon (a symbol of greed).
PS: He is surrounded by wolves, he sticks out his tongue like Doffy and he is chained like Fenrir, but like Fafner he killed his father and robbed him, so it could be either of the 2.
Thanks to All content creator Theo luffy and you bring us trough that time without the strawheads ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Loki joins the straw hats?..... I can't see any scenario where someone can kill the king become free and accepted unless he gets banished from Elbaf like Big Mom
I feel maybe something like a Berserker fruit might make more sense for a race that worship fights :D
Even more on nidhogg, it is said ygdrassil will shake and nidhogg will be freed from his prison in the depths which signals the beginning of ragnarok.
Last Loki video, Ohara felt like a weather castor. This video he became one! At this point you should press "Like".
something to think about: Zeus and Prometheus, 1 uses fire and 1 uses lightning, lokis brother is thor, a lightning user (in Norse mythology i mean.) and loki called himself the sun god, also why did big mom name her sun and cloud guys Zeus and Prometheus?? shes from elbaf, maybe its a hint. i think the prometheus one is pretty likely tbh.
20:39- we definitely need more western dragons
A good option could be plasma plasma fruit make logia impactful again
The Surtr/Prometheus theory makes sense since Loki is associated with fire in Norse Mythology, having given humanity fire as one of his pranks to the gods. So he has a lot in common with Prometheus.
Loki was the Sea King that bit off shanks arm 😮
he has some typa fruit that lets him control others like Road, making him into something he's not really. That's why Road called himself the Sun God. Or I think Road is working for Loki, eventually betraying and possibly unaliving Hajrudin. Loki might've manipulated Road into capturing Luffy and them to test their strength.
I wanted to explain a few reasons about why Loki has a Special Bounty, why there are Multiple Sun God fruits represented by times of the day and different cultures and the fact Oda already showed us 1 of the other 4 but not telling us because the country's name gives it away.
first, I travel to Japan often to see a friend and know the name Wanokuni means the "Land of Peace." There, they also have a Sun god although they know Joyboy as a visitor, Kaido knew he couldn't let any of it's citizens have the mythical guardian zoan: Inu Inu model Okuchi no Makami but those knowing Japanese folklore should know Amaterasu takes form in the shape of an Okami to Observe humans occassionally. Yamato just like Luffy has a white awakening Ribbon which Kaido wasn't surprised to see but knew it only belonged to Zoans. Yamato didn't go crazy even with a Mythical Cranivorous Zoan representing Peacetime Aka Night. Luffy's Diety is Nika who in Brazillian folklore people worshipped to liberate them from harsh situations and in One Piece Represents Dawn. This leaves 2 options due to Oda liking to make sets of 3 or 4, Loki will have Hito Hito no Mi model Sol, which is the Norse Sun God Representing High Noon AKA war or some fruit representing dusk as the fallout of war. As for Loki, the Giant's bounties and how their tied to the World Government due to "Mother Caramel" and by proxy Big Mom. Mother Caramel was the supplier of Giants to the marines by putting on shows that look like miracles to giants and letting them go before execution after grooming them. The house of Lambs was essentially a World Government supply of rare specimens held in Elbaf before Big Mom ate mother Caramel. When she did there were 2 witnesses, a marine patrol and Strussen which is why she had a child bounty. She was exiled from Elbaf due to her psychological issues but later attempted to patch it up with Loki by marrying Lola with Loki. Being monitored this left the Government to make a cautionary bounty on Loki because he may try to Avenge Big Mom if he knew anything happens to her so they also pinned the loss of their giant supply due to the fall of house of lambs on Loki. As for Dorry and Broggy, they literally were willing accomplices in destroying Egghead so there was no way were not getting a bounty. As for how Loki got the fruit, he seems relatively new to relying on Devil Fruit's but is strong without it due to Shank's probably being the one to chain him to Yyggdrasil but due to sea prism he was weakened and easily subdued. I believe there was supposed to be a succession ceremony after Harjudinn was turned into a toy but due to Doflamingo turning him into a toy the fruit passed to first sons was given to Loki because people forgot about his existence. I'm sure the giants feel regret giving it to the wrong son but Harjudin seems too humble to care and forgave them but Loki went on Local rampages so people steer away from him.
So throwing my hat here, what if its based on Mimir, a figure that tried to rival Odin on knowledge, which Odin tricked, asking a question only Odin himself would be able to answer, and odin had strapped to a tree. Several elements seem to overlap with loki rivaling odin and being tied up. It might be a knowledge based or even a future sight based that gives the user. knowledge of the future ability.
Chances are, it's none of these, cause it's oda, unpredictable top to bottom. Still a cool video
Maybe Loki has dark elf Powers
they cover his eyes because if he looks at the moon it triggers his fruit to activate in to the shapeshift
Didn’t morj already theorize the “god of war: elbaph” fruit already
Yes he did, and sawywer theorize the Fenrir one.
When people are creating videos with theories do you guys really believe people just watch other people’s vids while doing their own? Cause that’s what it sounds like. Let him cook
@@Lafkoko Yes, he did, and this could be one of those theories that actually turns out to be true. But again, this is a theory, and nothing has been confirmed yet, contrary to the title of the video which says we already know what loki's fruit is.
@@ScorpioLuffy I believe Sawyer brought up this point of having another god-like devil fruit in Elbaph, and other people add their own thoughts and create theories. But again, those are just theories. The title of the video says we already know what his fruit powers are, which is not true, as it's just a theory, and nothing has been confirmed yet. Sawyer has couple of some very interesting theories about how Nika fruit and Buccaneer bloodline powers work.
@@ScorpioLuffy well he became famous from translating a theory from a japanese guy, so..!! But he got a couple of good guesses here. Especially, god elbaf, Fenrir, ilussion and the fire demon
Ohara about to vacation to Norway, and other Slavic countries to go deep dive into Norse mythology 😂
What if the reason why he's considered cursed is because he's not fully a giant and is actually a hybrid. He's a mix between a giant and a wolf mink to fit Fenrir and then has a fire like devil fruit to match the idea. Crazy but it would explain the giant wolves around him and not attack him Plus it would allow Oda to get creative with the devil fruit but still match the mythology in a way.
Ookuchi no Makami is also a real name from mythology, so is all Goroseis demon form names except Sandworm.
I believe Loki has a fruit with either skoll or hati hroovitnisson abilities, maybe both baked into one. It makes sense because skoll chases the sun, kind of bringing the day, and hati chases the moon, bringing night. Skoll is almost a sun god kind of. While hati is a bringer of darkness, so if both were baked into one fruit, it would make him a slightly considered sun god and a dark bringer all in one.
I got excited just by seeing your Notification that Ohara has Uploaded a New Video 😂❤
Luffy's free imagination against Loki's deceptive illusions
If they make a bit of mixing of the myth and mix Fenrir with Skoll and and Hati, we might have the reason for why he said he is the sun god, as if he can devour the sun (Nika fruit) whenever he wants too or something like that
When you consider what Vegapunk said how the Devil Fruits were created from the desires of people and we know that Luffy has the Sun God Nika fruit, then it seems extremely likely that every god that has been worshiped throughout One Piece history must have a Devil Fruit. The most common things that large groups of people would want are incarnations of the gods they worship, so at some point all of the major gods should make an appearance and I would not be surprised if Imu has one.
i think with the glowing eyes and heartbreak background story, i feel illusion or changing reality/controlling people mind might be the most sense, and also similar to Nikka power, and also suit loki as God of Trickster. tho he looks very cool, why i feel he's still a "child".
Soweit ich es weiß gibt es auch in der nordischen Mythologie eine Stelle wo Loki angekettet wurde (mit den Innereien seiner eigenen Kinder und Gift wurde konstant in seine Augen getropft das würde die Augenbinde erklären) weil Odin sich vor ihm und seinem Sohn fürchtete (der Wolf). Also müssen die Ketten nicht zwangsläufig auf Prometheus hindeuten. Trotzdem coole Videos, mach weiter so.