One of the great things about this show is how it went from silly/funny in one second, then serious and powerful in the next. I do think it will come back for another season, but I guess there's always a chance it won't, which would be sad, as I think it became a fantastic sci fi series.
They have in my opinion the most interesting relationship in the entire show. klyden clings to his homeworlds flawed culture because he was a born female and if he accepts that his culture is wrong he would also have to except that everyone and everything he has ever loved in his life had betrayed him. he would also have to accept the fact that he is a victim, not an ideal identity to have for someone raised in a warrior culture. But the longer he clings to that culture the further the wedge placed in in his marriage
You find this in among some women. They feel that they are being mistreated and it is wrong. Yet, they continue to support the same mistreatment since they believe that is how things are or should be.
@@bermanmo6237 men don't feel mistreated by society because their used to being servant/ slave of the community. If women want equal treatment than they better understand the harsh world of society. Don't confused the few 1% of the elite in wealth or looks or skills to the rest of us mere mortals.
I appreciate the show doesn't just bury the child issue. For Bortus its a source of continued pain, he only really ever loses his temper when discussing his kid. Klyden is shown to be kind of a d-bag on the show but you gotta sympathize with him too though, he is as much of a victim of their effed up society as their child.
Aside from the gender thing, in this day and age there is a species that is even more effed up that allow for greater powers to walk all over them, with a frightening number defending the bulshit... As I am sure you have guessed it by now, I am of course speaking of Humans :)
I believe Klyden has been forced to see just how screwed up his culture is, but he knows no other and would feel lost without it. My guess would be if this issue was explored further Klyden would attempt to turn the blame to Bortus ... everything was fine until YOU insisted we live amongst these humans!
The writing really surprises me. They took such a blatantly ridiculous and comedic premise for an episode and managed to twist it around to end it with such a powerful character moment that lends itself to one of the best character arcs and story arcs in the season. It's really impressive how they can spend the whole episode coming up with wacky and hilarious porn simulations for Bortus only to use those scenarios to end the episode like this.
I happened upon this show by accident. I just wanted to watch a show for a few minutes while I ate my dinner. I had the tv muted because my roommate was asleep and had work early in the morning. I had intended to just watch for a few minutes while reading the captions, then turn it off once I finished my dinner. I ended up sitting there, binging the entire season, ALL while reading captions! That's how good this show is. I didn't hear a single voice or sound effects for the entire binge session. Which lasted way past the time when my roommate left for work. I was so enthralled by this show, that i, don't remember if turned on the sound after my roommate had left for work, or not. Lol!
Right !!!! You’d expect it to be a funny parody of sorts but it ends up being an interesting homage to sci-fi adventures with plenty of character growth, development of relationships, and stories without predictable plots. Plus the humor is on point and doesn’t undermine the stories.
@@RANDOM-KNIGHT145 Bortus is like a Startreck Camador Wolf Crossed with Stargate SG1 Teal'c and has more Teal's behaviour but the culture of Worf. Basicly Seth took what worked best in STNG and SGSG1 and added his own personal comedy style to it to Make Orville.
@@kalibos seth is a bigger fan of star trek than anybody who's worked on the official productions for the past 10 years or so. you may not have been been into his brand of humour with the likes of family guy, but he is not going to shit all over an idea that he is truly passionate about
When this show first came out, all I ever heard about it was how people were looking down on it as "just some Star Trek parody". But ever since I started watching it, not once have I ever felt that it deserved that kind of general dismissal 😟
No it's not a parody. It doesn't take itself quite as seriously as Star Trek but then Star Trek didn't either, at firrst. It's a young series with a lot of energy and potential. I hope it gets continued. Who knows, the House of Mouse might come through if there's enough popular support, they'd love to have the next Star Trek in their hands and they have the money to make it good..
Honestly when I picked it up I kind of felt the same way. The first season just didn't seem to have the sincerity it needed to contribute to the legacy of star trek... at least not on the first viewing. Obviously by the time I finished the series I was completely turned around, and even going back and watching season one I find myself just as pleased with it as the rest. Definitly the Orville sets itself apart from "just a parody" (and even from new star trek), as what I'm calling "tru trek".
Not just thought, heart. The Moclans are a fully realized society with terrible flaws but a lot of promise So are the Krill and the Kaylons. I hope if we get more episodes we'll see more examination of Union worlds. there's got to be some good stories there.
This is pure classic Star Trek style, taking a modern day issue and turning it on its head with sci-fi so that both sides of the issue has to think hard about what they’re watching.
Holy fuck, this is really good dialogue!! It's interesting, real and at the same time complex, witouth going into cringe territory! I really misjudged these series!
Despite the issue of Topa's gender TRYING to be pro-trans kids, it comes off as surprisingly anti-trans kids, which I much more prefer. I feel Bortus is very much in the right.
Gotta admit. When i first started this show. I expected family guy and star trek mixed together. Instead what i got was an extremely light hearted show that is capable of not only having very deep character builing. But make it extremely relatable to things people go through today
I like this. It's clearly a Star Trek parody, with humour and still a good story. Pity they don't have it on Netflix. What DO they have on Netflix. Not in Europe anyway. So I can't watch this and I won't bother buying the DVDs
Remember that Torrents is a thing :P Pirate Bay is also another good place for all kinds of things. Might be a bit of a job to find a decent copy, but hey, at least it's free! :D Give it a go :D
@@TheMurlocKeeper I honestly considered Buying DVD of eg "the expanse" or "battlestar Galactica" but it is monstrously expensive and probably not that good and you may end up not watching the whole season. I have Netflix for the kids but there are so many streaming services with all exclusives, I won't bother becoming member of them all just to try them out. If I watch one or two episodes and I like it, I might buy the entire box. The rules of capitalism just don't really work out here as intended. I'm sure companies loose a lot of money due to torrents but they ask for it. And they make people who do subscribe pay more because of it...
@@Kenoi_ Technically not single sex though because they do have females in rare events but they change them to males because the species view males superior in every way
In any species, males produce sperm and females produce eggs. That is the criteria in determining gender. There are species which the male is pregnant, or the female is larger, or that neither has a penis or vagina, but what makes males male is their sperm, and females their eggs. So Bortus is technically not a male, or at least, not exclusively male, since he can lay eggs. He is either female, or both, if he also produces sperm.
They haven't gone into exactly how it works. The bottom line is that Bordus and Klyden both self identify as male, and they were able to look at Topa and determine that she was a female and nobody ever agues with them about it. What criteria they base that on is a matter of pure speculation.
I know I'm late to this but the theory I've heard is that they probably originally were a two sex species. Over time, the male Moclans evolved to become hermaphroditic and no longer needed the females, and being an overwhelmingly misogynistic and homosexual society, simply stopped mating with them, resulting in less and less females until it became so rare that any females that were born were either killed or given sex-changes at birth.
@@VitchAndVorty well sexiest doesn't exist in there culture in fact he is normals everything he has done is normal he is not a Human but an alien and there nothing wrong with snitching in fact snitching is a good thing how will criminal be caught without snitching
I have some friends trying to get me into this show, but I side with the critics here - nothing in this show has ever left me with anything but confusion. Never cracked a smile once.
My understanding is that Seth Mcfarlan wanted to make a show similar to star trek, but from the producers side of things they wanted comedy, so ge threw a few jokes in here and there to give the show a lighter tone. So you are not wrong for not laughing
@@HellsingRuler Its weird that this doesn't feel like Family Guy's cheap jokes, its a bit more like futurama but with more confusing feelings and less simpler comedy. This is like how Family guy is inspired by Simpsons but in this case its futurama.
It's beautiful writing. But you might have to really watch the series to realize just how emotive the moclans are actually being. Moclans are basically walking examples of toxic masculinity turned up to 11. They're extremely stoic so every display of affection and emotion comes hard to them. Brotus was badly hurt by what happened to Topa. So badly that he buried it deep inside himself and let it build up a mountain of resentment. It costs him a lot even to admit that. I think he would literally rather have died but his behavior just nearly broke the ship so he's got to talk about it anyway.
“I resent you Klyden, I resent what you put our child through and I do not know if I could ever move on.”
I felt that
they are such talents at their craft. I can feel the emotion.
That line was more devastating than the stellar incineration.
@@MisterH37 truly powerful
One of the great things about this show is how it went from silly/funny in one second, then serious and powerful in the next.
I do think it will come back for another season, but I guess there's always a chance it won't, which would be sad, as I think it became a fantastic sci fi series.
One thing you gotta appreciate about the actor who played bortus is that despite the monotone you can still hear the emotions behind the words
He’s the same actor from the Walking Dead.
@@GoodbyeCruelWorldNo, he isn’t. That’s the actor who plays Klyden, not Bortus.
They have in my opinion the most interesting relationship in the entire show. klyden clings to his homeworlds flawed culture because he was a born female and if he accepts that his culture is wrong he would also have to except that everyone and everything he has ever loved in his life had betrayed him. he would also have to accept the fact that he is a victim, not an ideal identity to have for someone raised in a warrior culture. But the longer he clings to that culture the further the wedge placed in in his marriage
You find this in among some women. They feel that they are being mistreated and it is wrong. Yet, they continue to support the same mistreatment since they believe that is how things are or should be.
@@bermanmo6237 * Cough cough* the transformed wife
I'd go even further and say this is the best relationship in all of cinema.
@@BlaiseTighe yes
@@bermanmo6237 men don't feel mistreated by society because their used to being servant/ slave of the community. If women want equal treatment than they better understand the harsh world of society.
Don't confused the few 1% of the elite in wealth or looks or skills to the rest of us mere mortals.
I appreciate the show doesn't just bury the child issue. For Bortus its a source of continued pain, he only really ever loses his temper when discussing his kid. Klyden is shown to be kind of a d-bag on the show but you gotta sympathize with him too though, he is as much of a victim of their effed up society as their child.
Topa is in essence a victim of a victim(s), I wonder if they will explore these issues?
Like people that are bullies were once bullied by other bullies. It is their way of getting back at the world.
A tale of 2 topa episode goes back to this
Aside from the gender thing, in this day and age there is a species that is even more effed up that allow for greater powers to walk all over them, with a frightening number defending the bulshit... As I am sure you have guessed it by now, I am of course speaking of Humans :)
I believe Klyden has been forced to see just how screwed up his culture is, but he knows no other and would feel lost without it. My guess would be if this issue was explored further Klyden would attempt to turn the blame to Bortus ... everything was fine until YOU insisted we live amongst these humans!
"You have had enough injections!!" hahahaha still one of the best lines i have heard on this show.
It was a perfect response lol, mixed with his obvious disgust in his facial features.
The writing really surprises me. They took such a blatantly ridiculous and comedic premise for an episode and managed to twist it around to end it with such a powerful character moment that lends itself to one of the best character arcs and story arcs in the season.
It's really impressive how they can spend the whole episode coming up with wacky and hilarious porn simulations for Bortus only to use those scenarios to end the episode like this.
'' you have had enuff injections''
I laught so hard at that
I still do 😂
"If I had not promised the captain otherwise, I would stab you again right now!" 😆
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“You disgust me, Bortus. If I had not promised the Captain otherwise, I would stab you again right now.”
My favorite line in this entire video
"You have had enough injections" score 1 for klyden
Savage response that was well earned
I fucking died at that scene
I happened upon this show by accident. I just wanted to watch a show for a few minutes while I ate my dinner. I had the tv muted because my roommate was asleep and had work early in the morning. I had intended to just watch for a few minutes while reading the captions, then turn it off once I finished my dinner. I ended up sitting there, binging the entire season, ALL while reading captions! That's how good this show is. I didn't hear a single voice or sound effects for the entire binge session. Which lasted way past the time when my roommate left for work. I was so enthralled by this show, that i, don't remember if turned on the sound after my roommate had left for work, or not. Lol!
I expected funny, but I didn't expect all these thought provoking personal storylines.
Between this and the cigarettes, Moclans seem to be highly susceptible to addiction.
So all the Union has to do is create one incredibly addictive game app and they're no longer a problem?
Or theyre just so starved of dopamine naturally that anything that elevates that level is a bottomless pit that sucks them in
The Union should get them hooked on zaza so they become more mellow
This week on Keeping up with the Moclans:
I love the Moclans. They're such a delightfully terrible race made of delightfully terrible people and they make great foils for the protagonists
Yoo that would be a funny @ss show 😂❤
When I first watched the trailer for this show I believed it to be some cheap Star Trek spoof with no soul. Bloody hell, how wrong I was.
I also didn't have high expectations especially given Seth's previous work but he really knocked it out of the park. Best Trek in 20 years.
Right !!!!
You’d expect it to be a funny parody of sorts but it ends up being an interesting homage to sci-fi adventures with plenty of character growth, development of relationships, and stories without predictable plots. Plus the humor is on point and doesn’t undermine the stories.
@@RANDOM-KNIGHT145 Bortus is like a Startreck Camador Wolf Crossed with Stargate SG1 Teal'c and has more Teal's behaviour but the culture of Worf. Basicly Seth took what worked best in STNG and SGSG1 and added his own personal comedy style to it to Make Orville.
@@kalibos seth is a bigger fan of star trek than anybody who's worked on the official productions for the past 10 years or so. you may not have been been into his brand of humour with the likes of family guy, but he is not going to shit all over an idea that he is truly passionate about
I had faith in Seth and was not disappointed!
I laugh so hard when they have to turn their whole body 😂 it’s like big Ed
My man got stabbed through the chest. But that confession was brutal for Klyden
Shows the beginning of how far he has come from his culture's flaws.
Yo the “ you have had enough injections” is killing me bc Klyden said that shit as mad as I would
This show deserves more seasons or at least a movie.
When this show first came out, all I ever heard about it was how people were looking down on it as "just some Star Trek parody". But ever since I started watching it, not once have I ever felt that it deserved that kind of general dismissal 😟
No it's not a parody. It doesn't take itself quite as seriously as Star Trek but then Star Trek didn't either, at firrst. It's a young series with a lot of energy and potential. I hope it gets continued.
Who knows, the House of Mouse might come through if there's enough popular support, they'd love to have the next Star Trek in their hands and they have the money to make it good..
Honestly when I picked it up I kind of felt the same way. The first season just didn't seem to have the sincerity it needed to contribute to the legacy of star trek... at least not on the first viewing. Obviously by the time I finished the series I was completely turned around, and even going back and watching season one I find myself just as pleased with it as the rest. Definitly the Orville sets itself apart from "just a parody" (and even from new star trek), as what I'm calling "tru trek".
Awwwh poor Mr Klyden, he is highly annoyed with his partners discrepancies!
There was more thought and good writing put into this scene than all of STD or picard
Not just thought, heart. The Moclans are a fully realized society with terrible flaws but a lot of promise So are the Krill and the Kaylons.
I hope if we get more episodes we'll see more examination of Union worlds. there's got to be some good stories there.
This is pure classic Star Trek style, taking a modern day issue and turning it on its head with sci-fi so that both sides of the issue has to think hard about what they’re watching.
Bortus has no expressions, Klyden has more expressions than a human.
Klyden must still have the game left in him.
Holy fuck, this is really good dialogue!! It's interesting, real and at the same time complex, witouth going into cringe territory! I really misjudged these series!
This was written by Seth McFarlen? It looks surprisingly well made. Maybe adult animation just wasn't his thing.
He made what he had to in order to make what he wanted.
@@someguy4853 That sounds about right.
@@someguy4853
This is the perfect description of Hitler lmao
@@fixafix69 What?
Ummm what?
I love how The Orville, the Star Trek parody, is better than the actual modern-day garbage we call “Star Trek”.
Great Scott! You’re’ Right!
@@TheRealQuestionIs11 mainly discovery and PICARD. Picard was a nice attempt at post-voyager series, but they were too-non canon.
It's not a parody, it's a homage.
judging by this and the cigaret moclans seem to be biologically easily suseptable to addictions
This is quality Trek content!
Despite the issue of Topa's gender TRYING to be pro-trans kids, it comes off as surprisingly anti-trans kids, which I much more prefer. I feel Bortus is very much in the right.
I would love to see this issue be addressed further.
show is so good
If there is one true trans ally in the universe, it’s Bortus.
Gotta admit. When i first started this show. I expected family guy and star trek mixed together. Instead what i got was an extremely light hearted show that is capable of not only having very deep character builing. But make it extremely relatable to things people go through today
Bortus is definitely a power bottom.
I love every time Klyden goes 👀
I don't like Family Guy but this seems pretty good actually. It has heart
"You've had enough injections" 💀
Damn. Cutty has changed a lot.
i'm sorry but you can't have a starship captained simultaneously by both peter griffin AND glen quagmire. it just isn't appropriate.
"is there any injection can I receive to cure this illness" I hope so.
I like this. It's clearly a Star Trek parody, with humour and still a good story. Pity they don't have it on Netflix. What DO they have on Netflix. Not in Europe anyway. So I can't watch this and I won't bother buying the DVDs
@@Jaynaa hey, Thanx! I enjoyed that.
@@thesaw9988 whole two seasons on there.
Remember that Torrents is a thing :P
Pirate Bay is also another good place for all kinds of things.
Might be a bit of a job to find a decent copy, but hey, at least it's free! :D
Give it a go :D
@@TheMurlocKeeper I honestly considered Buying DVD of eg "the expanse" or "battlestar Galactica" but it is monstrously expensive and probably not that good and you may end up not watching the whole season. I have Netflix for the kids but there are so many streaming services with all exclusives, I won't bother becoming member of them all just to try them out. If I watch one or two episodes and I like it, I might buy the entire box. The rules of capitalism just don't really work out here as intended. I'm sure companies loose a lot of money due to torrents but they ask for it. And they make people who do subscribe pay more because of it...
More of an homage than a parody
Porn is an addiction if you're not happy in your relationship or have been single your whole life 😓
Is the future
Being single is not for everyone. Those of us that are happy are a different kind of people.
......Day drink?......Day drink!!!!!!!! What are we drinking to? That they don't burn their parents next!
Most direct race in the entire world or at least these two are brutally honest with one another.
What episode
Buahahahahahahahaha omg im dead!!!!
This show is surprisingly deep on a full range of issues all the while being a comedy show
Best gay couple ever
It's up there with holt and Kevin
not the point
In a single sex species it’s considered straight
sean swift Dont forget Mitch and Cam
@@Kenoi_ Technically not single sex though because they do have females in rare events but they change them to males because the species view males superior in every way
wow
They can cure cancer but not porn addiction?
735 Morar Islands
....dude...
In any species, males produce sperm and females produce eggs. That is the criteria in determining gender. There are species which the male is pregnant, or the female is larger, or that neither has a penis or vagina, but what makes males male is their sperm, and females their eggs. So Bortus is technically not a male, or at least, not exclusively male, since he can lay eggs. He is either female, or both, if he also produces sperm.
They haven't gone into exactly how it works. The bottom line is that Bordus and Klyden both self identify as male, and they were able to look at Topa and determine that she was a female and nobody ever agues with them about it. What criteria they base that on is a matter of pure speculation.
I know I'm late to this but the theory I've heard is that they probably originally were a two sex species. Over time, the male Moclans evolved to become hermaphroditic and no longer needed the females, and being an overwhelmingly misogynistic and homosexual society, simply stopped mating with them, resulting in less and less females until it became so rare that any females that were born were either killed or given sex-changes at birth.
@@Sourcoolnessthis is what I think aswell or I think that more female do get birth
Because there was that one guy that liked woman
Scary-therapy- alphabet city 🤮
Their marriage sucks, tbh. So toxic.
That untrue
@@EmperorDxD Klyden is sexist, racist, and a freaking snitch. He's only funny during that one episode where Bortus had some addiction.
@@VitchAndVorty well sexiest doesn't exist in there culture in fact he is normals everything he has done is normal he is not a Human but an alien and there nothing wrong with snitching in fact snitching is a good thing how will criminal be caught without snitching
@@EmperorDxD He snitched a regular non-criminal Moclan who happened to likes girls.
"Nothing wrong" my ass.
@@VitchAndVorty and that iligal to moclan that a serious crime for them
These 2 make me want to watch the whole show. I thought this was a pro trans agenda fed thing but it turned out to be a well thought out discussion.
So many times I almost had a Moclan Break Up🔪 with my Ex-Girlfriends
So very many Ex-es
I'm a Fuckboy
I have some friends trying to get me into this show, but I side with the critics here - nothing in this show has ever left me with anything but confusion. Never cracked a smile once.
My understanding is that Seth Mcfarlan wanted to make a show similar to star trek, but from the producers side of things they wanted comedy, so ge threw a few jokes in here and there to give the show a lighter tone. So you are not wrong for not laughing
It’s like Rick and Morty... IF YA KNOW WHAT AH MEAN 👀
Don't worry. You're still cute with your beard.
@@LeviathanSpeaks1469 You mean, you need to be a genius or possess a high IQ.... Or however that meme went.
@@HellsingRuler Its weird that this doesn't feel like Family Guy's cheap jokes, its a bit more like futurama but with more confusing feelings and less simpler comedy.
This is like how Family guy is inspired by Simpsons but in this case its futurama.
This is supposed to be funny? This is Terrible writing
The show is great and has serious episodes. You idiot.
It's beautiful writing. But you might have to really watch the series to realize just how emotive the moclans are actually being.
Moclans are basically walking examples of toxic masculinity turned up to 11. They're extremely stoic so every display of affection and emotion comes hard to them.
Brotus was badly hurt by what happened to Topa. So badly that he buried it deep inside himself and let it build up a mountain of resentment. It costs him a lot even to admit that. I think he would literally rather have died but his behavior just nearly broke the ship so he's got to talk about it anyway.
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