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Maloon Marwan bin hakkam governor of The Firoon Mawiyah bin Hinda lanati ordered that son of the 1st Khalifa of Islam Imam Abu Bakar (ra) be arrested till he ran inside Ammi Ayesha(as) hujra to save his life on that Maloon Marwanbin hakkam put a lie on the familyof Abu Bakkar as follows 😂😂 Sahih Bukhari Hadith No. 4827 Narrated Yusuf bin Mahak: Marwan had been appointed as the governor of Hijaz by Muawiya. He delivered a sermon and mentioned Yazid bin Muawiya so that the people might take the oath of allegiance to him as the successor of his father (Muawiya). Then `Abdur Rahman bin Abu Bakr told him something whereupon Marwan ordered that he be arrested. But `Abdur-Rahman entered `Aisha's house and they could not arrest him. Marwan said, It is he (`AbdurRahman) about whom Allah revealed this Verse:-- 'And the one who says to his parents: 'Fie on you! Do you hold out the promise to me..?' On that, `Aisha said from behind a screen, Allah did not reveal anything from the Qur'an about us except what was connected with the declaration of my innocence (of the slander).
Eating was more important to mawiyah bin hinda lanati rather than obey Allah Messenger pbuh till Allah Messenger pbuh prayed against that Maloon sahih muslim 6628 Ibn Abbas reported: I was playing with children that Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) happened to pass by (us). I hid myself behind the door. He (the Prophet) came and patted my shoulders and said: Go and call Mu'awiya. I returned and said: He is busy in taking food. He again asked me to go and call Mu'awiya to him. I went (and came back) and said that he was busy in taking food, whereupon he said: May Allah not fill his belly! Ibn Muthanna, said: I asked Umm Umayya what he meant by the word Hatani. He said: It means he patted my shoulders.
Salam Alaikom my 3 beloved brothers in Islam . With all due respect to you I'm so sorry to say that you 3 brothers don't have enough knowledge about Islam and Christianity to discuss with such disrespectful person who INSULT Allah and Prophet Muhammad all the time and you show him much love and respect . You failed to refute much of his fallacy and lies about Quran and the Bible. I hope that you can have live stream where we can join you live and refute all his claim about Quran. I mean no disrespect to you but in the 1st 35 minutes he made a lot of fallacy lies about the Holy Quran and you failed to answer him . He made after party stream in his channel about his discussion with you celebrating with all Islamophobia. According to Quran and sunnah you were not suppose to show respect or have as friend or call such evil person as Brother specially you know that he INSULT Islam all the time: Quran (5:57) Believers! Do not take for your allies those who make a mockery and sport of your faith, be they those given the Book before you or other unbelievers. Fear Allah if you indeed believe (58:22) You shall not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day befriending those who oppose Allah and His Messenger even though they be their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. He has inscribed faith in their hearts and has strengthened them with a spirit from Him, and He shall make them enter Gardens beneath which rivers flow. Therein they shall abide. Allah is well-pleased with them, and they are well-pleased with Him. They belong to Allah's party. Verily Allah's party shall prosper. We are not allowed to speak with people who INSULT Islam Allah and Prophet Muhammad: (6:68) And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people (4:140) And it has already come down to you in the Book [i.e., the Qur’ān] that when you hear the verses of Allāh [recited], they are denied [by them] and ridiculed; so do not sit with them until they enter into another conversation. Indeed, you would then be like them. Indeed, Allāh will gather the hypocrites and disbelievers in Hell all together
🌹1.Dont insult (Q49:11) 🌹2.Speak kindly (Q2:83) 🌹3.Speak gently (Q17:28) 🌹4.Dont backbite (Q49:12) 🌹5.Speak the Truth (Q3:17) 🌹6.Keep your oaths (Q5:89) 🌹7.Do not be arrogant (Q7:13) 🌹8.Restrain your anger (Q3:134) 🌹9.Think good of others (Q24:12) 🌹10.Dont be rude to parents (Q17:23) 🌹11.Dont make fun of others (Q49:11) 🌹12.Turn away from ill speech (Q23:3) 🌹13.Walk in a humble manner (Q25:63) 🌹14.Keep your trusts & promises (Q23:8) 🌹15.Do not claim yourself to be pure (Q53:32) 🌹16.Do not even approach adultery (Q17:32) 🌹17.Dont call others with bad names (Q49:11) 🌹18.Remember Allah and be thankful (Q2:152) 🌹19.Speak nicely, even to the ignorant (Q25:63) 🌹20.Do not ask for repayment for favours (Q76:9) 🌹21.If enemy wants peace, then accept it (Q8:61) 🌹22.Salute the Prophet (saw), do salawats (Q33:56) 🌹23.Call ˹all˺ people to the pilgrimage (hajj) (Q22:27) 🌹24.Give charity /spend (in the way of Allah) (Q2:254) 🌹25.Don’t criticize small donation/charity of others (9:79) 🌹26.Be mindful of Allah and be with the truthful (Q9:119) 🌹27.Do not consume one another’s wealth unjustly (Q2:188) 🌹28.Stand firm for justice even if it is against yourselves(Q4:135) 🌹29.Do not remind others of the favours you done to them (Q2:264) 🌹30.Return a greeting in a better manner or at least the same (Q4:86) 🌹31.Do not be excessive, extravagant, don t spend wastefully (Q17:26) 🌹32 Life of this world is no more than the delusion of enjoyment (Q3:185) 🌹33.Performing prayers (salat/namaz) is a duty on the believers (Q4:103) 🌹34.Turn away from trash talk like gossip, slandering people etc.(Q28:55) 🌹35.Fasting is prescribed for you-as it was for those before you (Q2:183) 🌹36.Don t Bribe authorities in order to devour a portion of others’ property(Q2:188) 🌹37.Establish prayer (salat/namaz) and donate from what was provided (Q8:3) 🌹38.Establish prayer (salat/namaz) and donate from what was provided (Q14:31) 🌹39.Establish prayer (salat/namaz), pay alms-tax, and bow down with those who bow down (Q2:43) 🌹🕋40.Know that this worldly life is no more than play, amusement, luxury, mutual boasting, and competition in wealth and children.(Q57:20)🕋🌹 ✍Explanation: 💚Please note these are not the complete ayats, but I took keywords from each ayat. If you would like to read the full ayat, then check the reference. 💬For example take a look the first statement: 🌹Dont insult (Q49:11), when you google Quran 49:11, then you will see the complete surah’s English translation and you will see following: ☝🕋O believers! Do not let some ˹men˺ ridicule others, they may be better than them, nor let ˹some˺ women ridicule other women, they may be better than them. Do not defame one another, nor call each other by offensive nicknames. How evil it is to act rebelliously after having faith! And whoever does not repent, it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers.☝🕋 🤲🌻ALWAYS REMEMBER🌻🤲: ✍Allah is the most merciful and forgiving, no matter how much you have been sinning, run towards Allah , turn to Allah and repent , ask for forgiveness. Some references from the Quran: 🌺🌺🌺🕋Quran 39:53🕋🌺🌺🌺 Say, ˹O Prophet, that Allah says,˺ “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins. He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 🌺🌺🌺🕋Quran 25:70🕋🌺🌺🌺 As for those who repent, believe, and do good deeds, they are the ones whose evil deeds Allah will change into good deeds. For Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful. 🌹Feel free, copy and paste this message
If anyone needs to debate against the Islam people say this why does Allah and Satan have the same attribute of making people forget? If Allah only has that power to make Mohammed forget then how can Satan have that power also if nothing and no one is like allah????? Also Mohammed said if I make false sayings my arorta will be cut not in a literal sense so that would make him a false prophet!!!!!!! Your Allah is Satan in disguise We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget, except what Allah should will. (Qur'an 87:6-7)A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a man in the mosque. Thereupon he said: May Allah have mercy upon him; be reminded me of the verse which I had been made to forget. (Sahih Muslim 788b; bk 4, 1721)Quran 6:68And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people. - Saheeh InternationalChapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable) Sahih International: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,Chapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable) Sahih International: Then We would have cut from him the aortaSahih al-Bukhari 4428 Narrated `Aisha: The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
I appreciate Rami's polite and respectful approach. So far I've watched a third of this video. But will all due respect, I would like you guys to push back a little more firmly against claims that detractors make. Otherwise you're just giving a platform to a non-Muslim to spread doubts with no other benefit. Sorry if this comes off as harsh, may Allah preserve you all.
If anyone needs to debate against the Islam people say this why does Allah and Satan have the same attribute of making people forget? If Allah only has that power to make Mohammed forget then how can Satan have that power also if nothing and no one is like allah????? Also Mohammed said if I make false sayings my arorta will be cut not in a literal sense so that would make him a false prophet!!!!!!! Your Allah is Satan in disguise We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget, except what Allah should will. (Qur'an 87:6-7)A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a man in the mosque. Thereupon he said: May Allah have mercy upon him; be reminded me of the verse which I had been made to forget. (Sahih Muslim 788b; bk 4, 1721)Quran 6:68And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people. - Saheeh InternationalChapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable) Sahih International: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,Chapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable) Sahih International: Then We would have cut from him the aortaSahih al-Bukhari 4428 Narrated `Aisha: The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Introduction 00:11 - GodLogic on Young Don leaving the Trinity 01:03 - Background of GodLogic 03:44 - How GodLogic got into Christianity? 05:23 - GodLogic's arguments for the Trinity 12:06 - Evidence for Jesus pbuh claiming to be God? 14:53 - Reliability of the New Testament? 22:09 - Analysis of the New Testament's authenticity 31:00 - Anghel shares his Religious Journey 34:59 - Islamic view of the Previous Scriptures 1:17:20 - GodLogic leaves 1:19:18 - Muslims accepting previous prophets 1:21:01 - Having cordial discussions with Christians 1:21:58 - Closing Remarks 1:22:35 - Wrapping Up
If anyone needs to debate against the Islam people say this why does Allah and Satan have the same attribute of making people forget? If Allah only has that power to make Mohammed forget then how can Satan have that power also if nothing and no one is like allah????? Also Mohammed said if I make false sayings my arorta will be cut not in a literal sense so that would make him a false prophet!!!!!!! Your Allah is Satan in disguise We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget, except what Allah should will. (Qur'an 87:6-7)A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a man in the mosque. Thereupon he said: May Allah have mercy upon him; be reminded me of the verse which I had been made to forget. (Sahih Muslim 788b; bk 4, 1721)Quran 6:68And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people. - Saheeh InternationalChapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable) Sahih International: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,Chapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable) Sahih International: Then We would have cut from him the aortaSahih al-Bukhari 4428 Narrated `Aisha: The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
After I have read the Quran, I realized that all what humanity needs is this heavenly law. “The legislation of Quran will spread all over the world, because it agrees with the mind, logic and wisdom.” - Leo Tolstoy .
@@JesusisaMuslim brother if your religion wasn’t 100% true and there was another religion that was Would u folloq the 100% true religion sent by God? Or the one that’s not 100% true
This man got exposed by Sheikh Uthman. He used two contradictory sources and picks and chooses when some versions of the Bible are wrong and when they’re right
yh, I find it very weird how he can just cherry pick what he likes from one source to another. He did expose Shekh Uthman back tho. Sheikh Uthman's explanation towards the difference pronounciations of ajibtu was flawed.
I have to disagree this time with the 3muslims. U guys shouldn't invite him. He's been cursing and mocking Allah, Prophet Muhammad and the Muslims all the time.
@havefaithahki I'm sorry but can't accept it. Allah says in the Qur'an to stay away from this kind of people who keeps insulting Islam. I heard after he met with the 3muslims, he did an after party on his channel. I don't know why u still want this guy on the stream. My heart burnt watching this.
@havefaithahki Doesn't matter how many times he's been humiliated by Shaykh Uthman, he will keep coming back and find other Muslims to hopefully get a 'gotcha' moment content for his channel. That's his job.
@havefaithahkiAnd it has already come down to you in the Book that when you hear the verses of Allah [recited], they are denied [by them] and ridiculed; so do not sit with them until they enter into another conversation. Indeed, you would then be like them. Indeed Allah will gather the hypocrites and disbelievers in Hell all together (4:140)
I would commend you for you adab in this dialogue with this Christian, but I must say, such a soft handed approach might not have been the most appropriate for an individual like him. Jazakallah Khair
@@MrSince2009 Also Muslim there should be no compulsion Prophet Mohammad levied Jizziya Tax on Jews and Christians expelled polytheist people destroyed their temple in Mecca what a joke 😅
@@user-yh3rw4sp4x There’s no compulsion in religion; you can chose not to join and pay the jizia tax instead, or your do you always want free 💩 like a free loader 😂😂
💯 Can't trust a word he says for real he has been coming onto every Dawah channel (that allows him) to spew his stuff, he seems decent enough on this stream but after years and years of the same stuff you kinda see it's like talking to a wall
This debate feels a a between Godlogic vs sneako. Three Muslim made zero effort to defend the Quran for Godlogic's personal opinion about quran and the bible.
I'm am going to be completely honest with you guys, whenever anyone brings up anything in the Quran, never, never, say, what your opinion is on the verse, even if you have a faint understanding of it, before you ever even discuss a verse with a person, you should have read many tafaseer and asked scholars or your teachers what the meaning/meanings of the verse are and the different opinions, you should know the verse from ahaadeeth and tafaseer of Scholars and arabic language, never, respond to a christian on a verse by looking up the tafseer as you are speaking to him, that is only going to make you say something wrong or misunderstand the verse as you are looking to respond to an entire misinterpretatioin within 15 seconds of reading tafseer instead of taking time to understand the verse fully, its arabic and its context and what scholars have said about it. So I advise all the brothers sincerely, whenever Quran or hadeeth are brung up, if you have not done thorough research and asked any of your teachers, that you keep silent and tell the person I will get back to you on that and I don't know, it will save you from making mistakes, and having regrets about saying stuff you shouldn't, and most importantly misunderstanding the verses of Allah and informing your audience and the person in the conversation of something which is not true.
Please reach out to Sherman Burgess. He he led a Islamaphobes group in Australia, and converted to Islam a few months ago. Not sure why the brother isn’t getting more coverage.
@@nemesis1291 a group advocating for deporting, attacking and restricting jews is antisemitism, for gays it would be homophobia, for the trans it would be transphobia, for blacks it would be racism, but for muslims is defense and valid criticism??? please wake up.
@@iyedabidi5304 "Islamophobia": The fear of speaking out against the rapidly growing religion/ideology that is out to repress all who do not follow its doctrine.
He usually just add Sam samosa who just starts abusing people of they don't agree. They even abuse Christians who don't believe in the trinity like gang up bully them. Shameful.
Don't forget, as a baby, he "God" depended On his mother to feed him and clothe him, taught him how to talk etc 😂😂 this God of theirs was hungry, tired, went to the toilet. May Allah guide them
Exactly. As a Muslim, even if we don't use any Scripture to justify that Jesus is God, we can just use logic argument. Like this is so simple to refute Christianity.
Muslims: God is All powerful, Omniscient and Immortal, Also Muslims: God can’t come into his own creation, and He comes down to at every third part of the night to hear our prayers
“When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish.” (Quran 17:81) “Do they not then ponder upon the Qur'ān? Had it been from someone other than Allah, they would have found in it a great deal of discrepancy” (4:82). ''Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood. So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.'' (2:256)
@@EgoEimiApologeticsIf the bible is truly preserved, then there wouldn't be errors, and there wouldn't be any attempts to correct the errors. There are "Revised Editions", "New Revised Editions" etc which clearly different numbers (not just translations), and even some verses removed, because Christian scholars are constantly attempting to go back to the purest form. If they already had the purest form, there wouldn't be a need to revise.
@@TheRockeyAllen no no no, that wasnt your claim. We’re not talking about theology here. We’re talking about authorship, which is what Avery was referring to. So im gonna ask you again, can you give me one early church father that attributed the gospel to anyone other than matthew mark luke or john. Dont change the goal post.
@@EgoEimiApologetics Muslims think that Christianity and Judaism believe the same as they believe of the Quran. That we received a Recitation but in Abrahamic tradition the word of God inspired the prophets and apostles and they wrote down their testimony through their words. Not that they would memorize a angels saying and recite it.
20 "Behold, I send an angel before you to guard you on the way and to bring you to the place that I have prepared. 21 Pay careful attention to him and obey his voice; do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgression, for my name is in him. 22 "But if you carefully obey his voice and do all that I say, then I will be an enemy to your enemies and an adversary to your adversaries. 23 "When my angel goes before you and brings you to the Amorites and the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Canaanites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, and I blot them out, (Exodus 23:20, ESV)
@The3Muslims, some in the said GodLogic once blasphemed the Prophet. I have a question, how do you blaspheme a human being, I thought you can only blaspheme God. Is your prophet God?
The prophets are messenger of God. So disrespecting them is a sin and form of blasphemy as they ordered to be respected by God. Blasphemy could mean to lie about someone doesn't have to be God necessarily as you can see by the context 😉
‘Ubadah ibn al-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever testifies that there is no God but Allah alone without any partners, that Muhammad is His servant and His messenger, that Jesus is the servant of Allah and His messenger, His word which He bestowed upon Mary and a spirit from Him, and that Paradise is the truth and Hellfire is the truth, then Allah will admit him into Paradise by whatever good deeds he had done.” Sahih al-Bukhari 3435, Sahih Muslim 28
@@hubertagamasu6283 Women and girls in Bible: Bible says rapist has to marry their victims in Deuteronomy 22:28-29. Bible says slaughter men women children and nursing babies in 1 Samuel 15:3. Bible says slaughter women and young males and take little virgin girls as wives in Numbers 31:17-18. Bible days women's pregnancy pain is their punishment in Genesis 3:16. Bible says you can sell your daughters as slaves in Exodus 21:7. Bible says pregnant women's stomaches would be ripped open and their children smashed to pieces in Hosea 13:16. Jesus called that non-jewish woman a dog in Matthew 15.24-26 and Mark 7;26-27 for being a non-Jew. ........
God doesn't need to kill himself to forgive our sins. God forgives all our sins above His blessed Throne. Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When a Muslim or a believer washes his face in ablution, every sin that he committed with his eyes will be washed away with the last drop of water. When he washes his hands, every sin that he committed with his hands will be washed away with the last drop of water. When he washes his feet, every sin that he committed with his feet will be washed away with the last drop of water, until he emerges purified from sin.” Sahih Muslim 244
Does god need a paedophile Mohammed ? Deflowers a 9yrs kid who was playing with dolls ? What kind of a psycho god who be this stupid to exalt a sex pest as ur leader ? Mohammed is the problem for Islam ! Bad example , sex pest paedophile and cold hearted killer . He advices men to take breast milk . Are u serious ! Compare Mohammed and Lord Jesus who would u allow need female kids and women ? The guys conducting interview are very honest and civil . You question Islam in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia u r killed . Even Muslims like western countries as they migrate their due to Christian freedoms . We allow debates about anything ? In Somalia , Pakistan or Afghanistan u can’t question Quran ? Who wants to serve a god that uses force to be loved ? 😊
Right you just got to do “works of faith” and blind recitations and rituals over and over again that will surely save you.. or maybe just kiss the rock and ask for forgiveness
Are you talking about your god or our God? Your god cant even speak English language. So, if you're talking about him, then you're right. He doesnt need to do nothing cos he cant do anything
Brothers, please be careful of allowing shubahat to spread on this platform. This guy is clearly not a sincere person. May Allah give you guys barakah in spreading the religion.
Honestly you have not done enough research into the quran. It teaches that the bible should confirm the quran. The Muslim here made a mistake when he said otherwise. Its criminal reading
@@monicalewisky4925if you been watching him you'd know. He's such polite boy here but when he's back to his gang you'll see hypocrite example. Quran has warned us Muslims.
All sins are forgiven for those who accept Islam. Qur'an 8:38. Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them. ‘Amr ibn al-‘As reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do you not know that embracing Islam wipes away all sins committed before it, that emigration wipes away what came before it, and the Hajj pilgrimage wipes away what came before it?” Sahih Muslim 121
World famous author, Leo Tolstoy said: “Muhammad has always been standing higher than the Christianity. He does not consider god as a human being and never makes himself equal to God. Muslims worship nothing except God and Muhammad is his Messenger. There is no any mystery and secret in it. The law of the Qur’an will prevail in the world because it agrees with reason and wisdom. I have come to understand that humanity needs only a Divine law to establish the truth and destroy falsehood. Islamic law will encompass the entire world because it is consistent with reason and agrees with wisdom and justice.”
The Muslims do not believe that the gospel and Torah that God revealed was totally lost we believe it is mixed with false hood as the quran says 2:42 and that is what the quran confirms that these scriptutes were indeed sent by God but the people distorted it for mere gains. Purpose of confirming is that that this book Quran that is been revealed to Prophet Mohammed is not something new and is not rejecting and saying previous scripture was not from God but rather confirming it and is a criterion to judge between right or wrong.
There is no original sin. Adam and Eve prayed for forgiveness and God forgave them. Qur'an 2:37. Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful. The prayer for forgiveness by Adam and Eve. Qur'an 7:23. “Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers.”
@@snakejuni How so? Going off your logic, all sinners and wrong doers should go to hell even if they repent and are forgiven by God. Is that what you believe?
@@skeptic737 The Quran👇 "And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is? IT IS TO FREE A SLAVE, or to give food in times of famine, to an orphaned relative, or to a poor person in distress" Al Balad:12-16 The holey unrelibible👇 “And if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod, that man shall surely be punished. 21 However, if the slave does not die for a couple of days, then the man shall not be punished for the slave is his property" Exodus 21:20-21
During an interview with Angelika Neuwirth, the distinguished Professor of Qur’anic studies, she argued that the Qur’an has never been successfully challenged by anyone, past or present: "No one has succeeded, this is right… I really think that the Qur’an has even brought Western researchers embarrassment, who were not able to clarify how suddenly in an environment where there were not any appreciable written text, appeared the Qur’an with its richness of ideas and its magnificent wordings."
So u need White peoples approval to prove your religion if same situation is reversed by same professor she would be expelled from her University or worse even death threats haha 😂 just like Prophet Mohammad he needs approval from Jews and chrristians to consider him to be last prophet but when they challenged him to do miracles he ran like a dog 🐕 with tails between his legs what a fake prophet 😂
@@qasmb1546 Prophet Muhammad was first Muslim amongst the pagan arabs. Quran 6:163. Sahih International. No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims." All the Prophets were Muslims who submitted to the will of God: Qur’an 22:78. And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you “Muslims” before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people. Abraham: Qur’an 3:67. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists. Jacob and his sons: Qur’an 2:132-133. 132. And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], “O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims.” 133. Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.” Joseph: Qur’an 21:101. My Lord, You have given me [something] of sovereignty and taught me of the interpretation of dreams. Creator of the heavens and earth, You are my protector in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die a Muslim and join me with the righteous.” Disicples were Muslims too. Qur’an 3:52. But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, “Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allah?” The disciples said,” We are supporters for Allah. We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him]. Qur’an 5:111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, “Believe in Me and in My messenger Jesus.” They said, “We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allah].” .
@@JesusisaMuslim *Where does it make that distinction in Quran?* i.e that Mohammad was the "first" among the pagan arabs? *None of the verses you mention make any such distinction.*
If having no beginning and no end makes one a god, then Melchisedec is a greater god since he had no beginning and no end according to the bible : "Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life;" Hebrews 7:1-4
Melchizedek is referring to Jesus as a everlasting Priesthood. You need to study more not just assume. It shows lack of understanding Second template Jewish views.
@@kingdanny1070 That's the problem. You're religion requires too much explanation, that gets re-explained in version after version of the bible. Just like how every Christian has their own understanding if the Trinity, which is never mentioned in the entire book. For 2023 years, you all have been burdened to explain to rational people of other faiths, an irrational, illogical concept of The Almighty One True God (John 17:3). It's confusing to a non Christian to grasp, and God, not being the author of confusion, absolves Himself of this blasphemy and heresy that He has equals. Everyone, bar an atheist, can grasp that concept with no residual ambiguity or confusion. One God. Jesus' Master. The One Whom Jesus cried to, prayed to, relied on when he was unsure, submitted to as he restrained his own will. Pleaded to when faced with death. All of this is evident to me and billions of others who for no malicious or anti Christy intent, can not swallow that story. The 'Holy Spirit' wasn't corinated into the Godhead until the 4th century. I mean c'mon man. For me that's a humble, not devilish, simple, not evil, straightforward, not dodgy, No! My soul, my reason, my logic, my discernment and my common sense will not permit me to make such a leap of faith. The simplicity of Islam and it's concept of God, appeals to all of those components in me and billions of your fellow earthlings. We feel safer in accepting God's description of Himself, that we should face Him on Judgment Day, having worshipped, adored and obeyed his creation instead of Him. Jesus' mother. Mary pbuh never breastfed God. God never had a brother named James he played with as a baby, then toddler then wrestled with as a teen. James never wore God's clothes nor has God Almighty ever worn clothes as brothers imminentelly do. God never did those things but Jesus, who will never be or claim to be God, did have and live those experiences. We love Jesus, but we could nevdr worship him. Think about it. Jesus thanked God for allowing the people to see him pray to God prior to the miracle of Lazurus' resurrection, so that they would not attribute the miracle to him, but The Father. Why go through all of this, knowingnpeople like myself would one day be confronted with this story and conclude that Jesus is clearly disassociating himself of any divinity, covering his own self from any lie or misconstruing of what the people had just witnessed. He immediately made this prayer glorifying God post miracle and God had it scribed for all posterity to read and conclude as Jesus concluded. God is alone in His attributes snd Jesus has no share in His dominion. This is the right religion. This is the correct understanding. Any disagreement has to be coming from an emotional stance an not a logical one. "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent" John 17:3. That's what Muslims believe. By that statement, Jesus removes any assumption, claim or misunderstandings that may occur and spread that he has some God like powers to raise the dead. It was important to him that it be made clear. He goes away, leaves this earthly realm, and lo and behold, there are actually billions of people saying that he is a God, after his departure. I honestly believe that if he came back and reiterated the point, people would wash, rinse and repeat the same behavior. Paul in Romans 3:7 declares he's free to lie on the basis that end justifies the means. WowHe's a liar and your caught in the web that is that lie. Read Romans 3:7 With your own eyes, heart and understanding. He lied and his true motives for doing so will never be known. For that reason the 12 choses apostles rebuked Paul's teachings and never believed Jesus was their God. I mean, imagine Prophet Muhammad pbuh, saying something like that. You Christians would 'crucify' his name pbuh, and that's a fact. This would be your Golden Bullet to put those 'Jesus hating Muslims'to rest. But when we mention these things, they are explained away as a lack of spiritual understanding or we haven't been given the Holy Spirit yet etc. I mean first we have to believe before we can understand? Uh uh. If you wanna gamble your eternity on that, I'd advise otherwise, but it's your soul. I'll be over here where it's a safest of bets. Too long to proof read. You get it.
@@fwutiswurth7151 You wrote all to justify your error on why the book of Melchizadek. Writing the same Low level muslim polemic isn’t going to get you anywhere. Islam is more confusing than the trinity Allah in Islam has multiple attributes yet than how is he one? Muslims can’t even agree on Allah thats why there is so many schools like Salafi, Athari, Ashari, Ismailism, sufism. It gets worse since they all trace back to Muhammad and contradict each other. In Christianity you can only trace back Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy so it makes it easier to know which church is true.
You guys need to realise who you're interacting with, you're laughing, joking and being very nice to a person that goes on everyday insulting the prophet peace be upon him and slandering Islam. be careful. thats my only advice I will say here.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm No, that's the norm, that's what distinguish you from a Muslim and a non muslim, we don't expect every non muslim to believe in him at first until they learn about his life and how Islam is the truth, what this donkey does he goes around on youtube insulting our religion and making fun and slandering our prophet against others, how did you combine not believing to slandering and insulting?
@@Jonathan-tw4xmno he disrespects him tho it’s not like he just doesn’t believe in him he calls him a pedo and other stuff and preaches everyone to not follow Muhammad the pedo so that’s why
@@sudaisfasheed325 he was a pedo. Unless you don't believe 50 year old man sleeping with a 9 year old is pedo. Then you can't judge any pedo ever. Edit: the point is if he did that to a child he is a pedo. That's just a fact. Just because he is your prophet does not mean he wasn't a pedo.
I liked both sides of this talk. At times it did seem that Shamsi was grasping for an explanation about changes of the books but also made some good points and made me think about it. I may be biased after hearing heard botn sides, for me, Avery's version of the changes in a new book which these people sold, made more sense because there were a lot of verses that said the same thing (The confirmng that the books they have is true). Thanks for the talk all of you.
A short cut when talking with believers of the New and Old Testaments is to go through the scripts and their translations then see the texts added from the third till the twelfth century!! Then ask who added these and what about the early Christians before the fifth century who did not have third of what you have now between your hands… do you think they believed in trinity? In contrary, Muslims since the first moment after prophet Mohammed Pbuh died had already the complete Quran memorised by heart by almost everybody as well as kept written by his companions.
Beautiful conversation! I loved how the 3muslims and Godlogic respectfully disagreed. But listen carefully to the points made. In the end it sounded like the 3muslims came to the same conclusion. Allah words cannot be corrupted. But people write their own books and lie! So the bible today is the same.
Iljaz have said very bad racist things to our brothers and he have doxxed many Christian sisters and brothers, in our beliefs this is unacceptable behaviour and should be called out.
He’s a deceiver and he quickly jumps to questions about Islam that have already been answered to him when cornered. He realized two of the three muslims are new and still learning muslims so he wants to instill doubt. He’s in this for the money, wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a pastor.
Ijaz did some sick and immature things. Like publicly telling people’s personal information during discussion online and cursing! It’s like this doesn’t botter you at all? This makes a bad impression to Non-Muslims. However, if guys like Ijaz are the guys you are supporting, it will do bad to the image of Islam. Sometimes it is so childish how some Muslim apologists and their fans behave. Just like kids on school! Talking about faith is not a football match, it is about truth! Jesus said: I am the Truth, the Way and the Live! He that follows me will have eternal live!
Brothers, I'm a convert I grew up in a similar situation as this person. I studied the Bible, there is no possible way you can correlate a triune God in the old or new testament. I challenge any Christian to do so. You will find, they cannot justify from their own scholarship the authenticity of their own book. And NO, you cannot conclude God has a plurality at all in the old Testsment. Brothers study these books before you discuss with these people, as the reason they are not guided when they claim to have searched for the truth is because they are not sincere, and they follow their own desires but are unaware.
@GodLogicApologetics you are not educated on even the basics of the Koran, Hadith or Seerah. I assume you wish to discuss th Bible exclusively? Let me know.
Jesus teaching of repentance was only for Israel and not for the non-Jews. He also called that non-jewish woman a dog in Matthew 15.24-26 and Mark 7;26-27 for being a non-Jew. Jesus was only sent for Israel. Matthew 15:24. I have only been sent to the Children of Israel. Acts 5:31. “Him has God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.”
Guys this guy “god logic” doesn’t deserve to be a guest in the stream He is neither respectful nor sincere You can see this clearly in his video “Godlogic reaction to quran”
Explain how was he dis ingenious? His point about the quran saying the bible is not corrupt is actually in your scripture. The Muslim here lied about it
If anyone needs to debate against the Islam people say this why does Allah and Satan have the same attribute of making people forget? If Allah only has that power to make Mohammed forget then how can Satan have that power also if nothing and no one is like allah????? Also Mohammed said if I make false sayings my arorta will be cut not in a literal sense so that would make him a false prophet!!!!!!! Your Allah is Satan in disguise We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget, except what Allah should will. (Qur'an 87:6-7)A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a man in the mosque. Thereupon he said: May Allah have mercy upon him; be reminded me of the verse which I had been made to forget. (Sahih Muslim 788b; bk 4, 1721)Quran 6:68And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people. - Saheeh InternationalChapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable) Sahih International: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,Chapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable) Sahih International: Then We would have cut from him the aortaSahih al-Bukhari 4428 Narrated `Aisha: The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
In Qur'an, Satan in cursed: Qur'an 15:34-35. 34.[ Allah ] said, "Then get out of it, for indeed, you are expelled. 35.And indeed, upon you is the curse until the Day of Recompense." In Bible, Jesus is cursed: Galatians 3:13. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”
I'm really disappointed that you guys bring on this vile and malicious individual on your platform. He lies about Allah سبحانه وتعالى and Rasool Allah صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم on daily basis, casts doubts into the hearts of people and has been persistent on his false faith for a long time. There is no point in giving him a platform to spread further misguidance. If anything, he should be shunned and dealt with harshness, one shouldn't be nice to him at all. Dawah is given to those are sincere and looking for the truth, not those who are clear enemies of Islam and have been given dawah multiple times but are persistent on their falsehood, and are on a mission to misguide people.
You've spoken like a true cultist. If you guys crossexamined your own religion enough, maybe others wont do the job for you. But since you are abduls who cant think for yourselves.... Yes actual knowledgeable people will continue to crossexamine your religion for you. So live with it!
"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land." Jomo Kenyatta.
And when the muslims went to Africa they enslaved you and made the continent underdeveloped like their war-torn arab countries. I'd rather pick the westerners who brought the bible and used Christianity as a foundation to build their civilizations, than the arab who are still struggling to catch up with the WESTERNERS. Show me a stable muslim-dominated country that is experiencing some level of peace and development. Even Dubai had to import expatriates from outside arabia to come work and develop their city.
Taking about Africa, let’s not forget the Islamic slave trade was a thousand times worse than the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Also, Muhammad owned Black slaves.
The son is God, the father is God the Holy Ghost is also God but there’s only one God: confusion upon confusion 🤦♂️ Q #1 Who makes the decisions, the son, the father or the Holy Ghost ? Q #2 who did Jesus call upon when he was put on the cross? Can God allow his only son to be humiliated and dishonoured in the hands of his own creation (people) by putting him on the cross?? Q#3 did jesus say I am God worship me? Q#4 who did Jesus prostrate to in Mathew 26:39? Q#5 who did Mary worship?
Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) will be the leader of mankind on Judgement Day and will be the first one to enter Paradise. It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of God, Prophet Mohammad said: “I will be the leader of mankind of the Day of Resurrection, the first whose grave will be opened, the first to intercede and the first to be asked to intercede.” Sahih Muslim, 2278 Anas b. Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: I will come to the gate of Paradise on the Day of Resurrection. and would seek its opening. and the keeper would say: Who art thou? I would say: Muhammad. He would then say: It is for thee that I have been ordered, and not to open it for anyone before thee. Sahih Muslim 197
I smell ketchup. And he couldn't even recite the shahada right to convert sneako lmao. Because he doesn't speak Arabic. HAHAHAHA. The muslims had no rebuttal never bring up other scriptures but Avery brought up scriptures to back up his claim. That is how you rebuttal.
Concerning the part on Islamic view on the previous book My add to that is that The Quran clearly stated that this people wrote with their hand and claim it is from God. Without corrupting the Torah or the Injeel they started claiming that the books they wrote is from God In essence they started claiming that this books is The Torah or the Injeel The fact that there’s a document that you call the Torah does not mean that it is the Torah Of course it can contain some teaching from the Torah but it is not the Torah
For example Concerning the Injeel MUSLIMS believe that the Injeel was revealed to Jesus (pbuh) and jesus taught and preached with the injeel The injeel from our point of view is not documents written about Jesus by some people , of course Mathew Luke mark and John were documents written about the life of Jesus ,from our point of view that is not the injeel The injeel was revealed to and taught by jesus, Even when you claim that what you have now is the injeel it is not
@@Jonathan-tw4xm actually it does There’s a verse in the Quran where it says people are writing with their hands and claiming it Gods revelation So that’s clear
I smelled something fishy when he said something about Ijaz insulting him (?!) Ijaz probably schooled him on the historicity of the bible and he couldn't respond!
My intention was too really watch this video with patience, but i just cant im sorry. I was already done after he said, its clear god is one, but he is also plural. The literal understanding of something being one is that it can NOT be plural. Its just mindblowing how someone can trully convince himself with this nonsense. Also all the verses of the bible he mentions, how would you ever even know this is Jesus his own actual words, it are all accounts of people who never ever even met Jesus. With all respect too christians but a trully honest and reflective person can never accept this kind of standards.
In (50:38) We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days,49 and weariness did not even touch Us.Quran states ur god is “ we” and prays to himself and Mohammed . Who is “ we “ .?
Why invite someone who is known to have blasphemed the Prophet, on various different occasions, and his channel is filled with blasphemous content? You essentially gave this Islamophobe, a wolf dressed in cheeps clothing, the platform to voice his thoughts, and by extension advertised and gave him a greater reach over more people, which is exactly what he want!
@@WarriorBreed-zt8uo It’s very disturbing! I’ve spoken to GodLogic (Avery) on multiple occasions, and in your face he’s literally a wolf dressed in cheeps clothing, and when he’s with he’s evil associates, they say things about Allāh and his Messenger ﷺ that I can’t even think about without feeling sick to my stomach, let alone repeat it. He himself, has blasphemed the Prophet, our beloved intercessor ﷺ, even on his own channel.
@@EgoEimiApologeticsthat’s a very good question.. @Zaccinho what did I say? Or can you at least point them to a source where we can find me doing what you accuse me of? Maybe a video clip? A link? Somethin other than baseless accusations would suffice 👍🏾
@@GodLogicApologetics Reading the comments on this video is absolutely hilarious. Muhammad slaughtered the Pagans of Mecca, mocked their God, destroyed their idols, and they have a problem with you bringing their lies to light. This should be a sign that youre on the right path brother Avery. Ive been in your streams all the time and the 'God Logic' theyre describing is so profound and imaginative. I thank you and commend your for what you are doing, muzzle the dogs of Islam and continue to bury Muhammad with his own delusions.
This guy has been humiliated by sheikh uthman and exposed for lying! He doesn’t even keep to his word, he was meant to post a public apology after getting caught out by sh uthman
😂😂😂😂😂 That's so funny. You should pay more attention to what is being said. He didn't talk about niv the whole time. I recommend watching the video avery did to respond. He didn't praise niv. Niv isn't even a good translation.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm i watched this video, he pretends he can’t understand the corrupted versions of the Injeel and the Torah do not change the original message, which are the ones the Quran speaks about and now are lost. His logic is just stubbornness. In the latest discussion with Uthman he denies he uses the NIV (which changed the age of Ahaziah aknoledging a mistake which godlogic was trying to twist to make it right), but in a prior video he assures that is the version he uses. Just a child trying to win arguments at all costs. Its fun to watch him twitch and convolute to avoid getting caught 😂.
You can tell Avery has not genuinely read Chapter 2 (Surah Baqrah) OR researched any Tafseer on it. Quran 5/48 states the previous scriptures were changed by desires OVER the truth which came to The Prophet (PBUH) aka The Quran. Then the Quran DISMANTLES the trinity with Chapter 5 Verse 72. This entirely debunks Avery's points in this podcast. He should realize he believes in the corrupted and changed scriptures. Islam has and will always maintain ground since its been preserved without a single contradiction. Alhamdulilah ☝
@@yusufbey1587 if what im saying is true then. its a serious problem. i dont think you would argue with someoe who says mohammed is a pedo, which he is by the way. your prophet is a pedo who violated a minor. which means you think that kind of thing is ok.
Jazak Allah brothers for being so cordial please keep this stream backed up as the guest will throw all of his church fathers, books and versions under the bus in order to push his narrative. Really enjoyed it he was happy to fully tie himself up in knots without any pressure Daees take note on this masterful approach. May Allah reward you all ameen.
@bambbambboyguy123, and you're gonna say, oh yeah, a 9 year old woman, she hit puberty, and that determined if someone was an adult or a child 100 years ago and keep counting
@jakabok226 oh really? I didn't see it all he did was bring stupid arguments, and uthman caught him lying and twisting around hadiths to his favor oh and the niv bible incident, where he contradicted himself
Also,just for clarity, all the apostles were specifically handpicked by Jesus for his ministry against selecting at random so it would make sense that he chose people with literacy for the purpose of documentation and evangelism.
Reading the comments from both sides makes it appear that people really see what they want to see. Christians see this as a clear victory, Muslims see this as a clear victory. It is really interesting how people can view the same object and still see different interpretations.
I think Rami didn’t clearly explain why the Quran doesn’t acknowledge the today bible and Torah to be correct. He could’ve simply point out the fact that Allah brought some verse just to refute the Bible and Torah version. For instance, there are verse just to clarify that story from the Bible and Torah that are saying Solomon was a disbeliever are false. Same thing goes for Noe. There is a verse where the only purpose is to say that the alcoholic part is false. Same thing for Jesus, there is a verse that refute his crucifixion. Why would Allah give words to clarify those parts if the Bible and Torah already got the story right ? Those verses are here to prove those scriptures were tempered
Agreed.. I honestly don’t see this discussion as a “me Vs them” type of situation.. we simply reasoned together and agreed to disagree ultimately. It was a very nice discussion.
Another gem you don’t want to talk about 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Surah 66 (At-Tahrim) Verse 9: O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.
I’m 14 minutes in, y’all are too nice sometimes, it’s not rude to make sure somebody isn’t just making claims make people back up what they’re saying because he already saying nonsense
I concur wholeheartedly. I hate to be critical of their efforts, and I prayed that Allah reward and guide them but I feel they are patient to a fault, if that's possible. When they have an opportunity to establish the Haq after his claims, they reply with something like, "Oh, that's interesting." It makes you wonder who's giving the dawah. Instead of just saying the truth , clear and direct, they ask him to explain everything. If Ahmed Deedat and Zaakir Naik couldn't persuade this guy, then what's the sense of engaging with this dude?
Hehe funnily enough I am having the same thoughts now that I am almost 14minutes in, 13:23 to be exact. He already made a lot of interpretations that are wrong, and they could have refuted. Maybe they don't realize that he is gone edit this video to fit his narrative and make it seem like they even agreed with him. Regardless I wish they didn't let him get away with a lot of things eventho it is obvious that nothing would stop this guy from lying based on his videos with Uthman and so on.
@@AbdulazizKiderExactly, especially at the end when he says the Quran aknowledge their version of the Torah and Bible. Easily refutable. A lot of verse in the Quran were reveled just to disprove the biblical narrative. A few examples are verse about Solomon and Noe that directly says what those scriptures said about them aren’t true
Good thing you guys didn’t bring Ijaz on it would have messed up a brilliant cordial convo you all were having. I find the answer given by GodLogic to your question(s) essentially based on schools of thoughts founded on historical and biblical sources, however the inability of any of you to give clear coherent response to GodLogic’s questions is very glaring it appears that the idea of the Bible being corrupted is actually brought into Islam after prophet Mohammed and not by him. Good thing GodLogic had to leave but I think he had you guys in an extremely tight corner. Good one guys hope to see more
@@TheRockeyAllen it will be helpful if you gave examples, he gave references for all he said that formed his reasoning, but the guys could not give any references rather relied on what the multiple interpretations of the Arabic could be unfortunately they could not tie their interpretations within the context of the statement which GodLogic successfully did even with his position that there is no evidence that the Quran disputes the the Bible he gave great contextualised Quran and Arabic scholar references to buttress his point. They made statements and gave understanding based on their belief which seems to be from what they have been told rather than what they had thoroughly and objectively researched
You thought you were writing an intellectual comment but you just made yourself look uneducated . We have plenty of hadith from the time of the prophet pbuh that shows clearly those books are corrupted…. Without lies Christianity dies
Moslems can’t handle the truth. GodLogic is very articulate and very calm. GodLogic was not firm enough, he was too nice. GodLogic please don’t compromise by being too nice.
Avery makes a claim that ijaz and isa dawah insulted him therefore he doesn't speak to people who insult him.. Yet sheikh uthman has made many vids on him and insulted him but he still speaks to sheikh uthman and chases him...but I get it ijaz ahmed destroyed avery mentor and teacher sam shamoun few years ago and since then Sam has been running from ijaz so I understand why avery would be sweating to hear ijaz name or any mention of ijaz wanting to speak to him
For Islam to be true, Allah has to be unable to protect his word from beimg distorted and to preserve it. Is that acceptable? In Christianity, God preserved his word, which is why the bible has all the books of the prophets and the Torah and the gospel, and the epistles.
To answer Avery’s question of can the quran be corrupted as well? To answer, firstly, why the Quran was able to maintain its authenticity was because this revelation, prophet Muhammad conveyed this message to many companions of his. As a result, the scripture, if it was recited differently, the companions would be able to tell if there’s wrongs in the recitation, thus maintaining its authenticity. Same system with the Hadiths, where the same Hadiths the prophet shared with different companions at different times, they were able to crosscheck each other. Even till today if someone changes it or recite it differently, millions of muslims are able to point it out. Where I would argue the bible today would be different is we cant even track the scripture back to Jesus which we Muslims believe the word was revealed upon to. Thats why the bible always starts “According to St….”. That is why we have issues with the authenticity.
When the Quran says: ”confirming what is with them”, its not impossible the Jews at the time still had the original manuscripts, but still they chose to lie and manipulate, as affirmed in the next verse 2:42. We dont know what scriptures they had at the time. 2:42 talks about overlaying the truth with falsehood as this verse was sent down when the Jews told skewed truths when the Arabs went to them at the time for advice as they were perceived as the learned ones. You cannot make an argument that the Quran is affirming the torah and injeel as they are too many versions. Which version do you believe God is saying? God is talking about the original scriptures. The context is there, if you read it completely, the verse make sense.
@@niobserver1073 same meaning. Also I am worried if u think this guy knows what he is talking about. Guy like the macArthur study Bible. Then explains totally different, with his made explanations, for the contradictions of the bible
Scripture from bc Crist, like the - Testament of Solomon and the book of Enoch describes Jesus and states his existing before his birth among mankind….and he also claims by his own words that even Moses prophecies about his coming and holy divinity as the only son and messiah of god and salvation of mankind….and this was one of the reasons why the jews wanted his death.
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Maloon Marwan bin hakkam governor of The Firoon Mawiyah bin Hinda lanati ordered that son of the 1st Khalifa of Islam Imam Abu Bakar (ra) be arrested till he ran inside Ammi Ayesha(as) hujra to save his life on that Maloon Marwanbin hakkam put a lie on the familyof Abu Bakkar as follows 😂😂
Sahih Bukhari Hadith No. 4827
Narrated Yusuf bin Mahak: Marwan had been appointed as the governor of Hijaz by Muawiya. He delivered a sermon and mentioned Yazid bin Muawiya so that the people might take the oath of allegiance to him as the successor of his father (Muawiya). Then `Abdur Rahman bin Abu Bakr told him something whereupon Marwan ordered that he be arrested. But `Abdur-Rahman entered `Aisha's house and they could not arrest him. Marwan said, It is he (`AbdurRahman) about whom Allah revealed this Verse:-- 'And the one who says to his parents: 'Fie on you! Do you hold out the promise to me..?' On that, `Aisha said from behind a screen, Allah did not reveal anything from the Qur'an about us except what was connected with the declaration of my innocence (of the slander).
Eating was more important to mawiyah bin hinda lanati rather than obey Allah Messenger pbuh till Allah Messenger pbuh prayed against that Maloon
sahih muslim 6628
Ibn Abbas reported: I was playing with children that Allah's Messenger ( صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ) happened to pass by (us). I hid myself behind the door. He (the Prophet) came and patted my shoulders and said: Go and call Mu'awiya. I returned and said: He is busy in taking food. He again asked me to go and call Mu'awiya to him. I went (and came back) and said that he was busy in taking food, whereupon he said: May Allah not fill his belly! Ibn Muthanna, said: I asked Umm Umayya what he meant by the word Hatani. He said: It means he patted my shoulders.
3 muslim just rant . godlogic used quran
Salam Alaikom my 3 beloved brothers in Islam . With all due respect to you I'm so sorry to say that you 3 brothers don't have enough knowledge about Islam and Christianity to discuss with such disrespectful person who INSULT Allah and Prophet Muhammad all the time and you show him much love and respect . You failed to refute much of his fallacy and lies about Quran and the Bible. I hope that you can have live stream where we can join you live and refute all his claim about Quran. I mean no disrespect to you but in the 1st 35 minutes he made a lot of fallacy lies about the Holy Quran and you failed to answer him . He made after party stream in his channel about his discussion with you celebrating with all Islamophobia.
According to Quran and sunnah you were not suppose to show respect or have as friend or call such evil person as Brother specially you know that he INSULT Islam all the time:
Quran (5:57) Believers! Do not take for your allies those who make a mockery and sport of your faith, be they those given the Book before you or other unbelievers. Fear Allah if you indeed believe
(58:22) You shall not find a people who believe in Allah and the Last Day befriending those who oppose Allah and His Messenger even though they be their fathers or their sons or their brothers or their kindred. He has inscribed faith in their hearts and has strengthened them with a spirit from Him, and He shall make them enter Gardens beneath which rivers flow. Therein they shall abide. Allah is well-pleased with them, and they are well-pleased with Him. They belong to Allah's party. Verily Allah's party shall prosper.
We are not allowed to speak with people who INSULT Islam Allah and Prophet Muhammad:
(6:68) And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people
(4:140) And it has already come down to you in the Book [i.e., the Qur’ān] that when you hear the verses of Allāh [recited], they are denied [by them] and ridiculed; so do not sit with them until they enter into another conversation. Indeed, you would then be like them. Indeed, Allāh will gather the hypocrites and disbelievers in Hell all together
@@omarrenteria2542 i guess we weren’t watching the same video
🌹1.Dont insult (Q49:11)
🌹2.Speak kindly (Q2:83)
🌹3.Speak gently (Q17:28)
🌹4.Dont backbite (Q49:12)
🌹5.Speak the Truth (Q3:17)
🌹6.Keep your oaths (Q5:89)
🌹7.Do not be arrogant (Q7:13)
🌹8.Restrain your anger (Q3:134)
🌹9.Think good of others (Q24:12)
🌹10.Dont be rude to parents (Q17:23)
🌹11.Dont make fun of others (Q49:11)
🌹12.Turn away from ill speech (Q23:3)
🌹13.Walk in a humble manner (Q25:63)
🌹14.Keep your trusts & promises (Q23:8)
🌹15.Do not claim yourself to be pure (Q53:32)
🌹16.Do not even approach adultery (Q17:32)
🌹17.Dont call others with bad names (Q49:11)
🌹18.Remember Allah and be thankful (Q2:152)
🌹19.Speak nicely, even to the ignorant (Q25:63)
🌹20.Do not ask for repayment for favours (Q76:9)
🌹21.If enemy wants peace, then accept it (Q8:61)
🌹22.Salute the Prophet (saw), do salawats (Q33:56)
🌹23.Call ˹all˺ people to the pilgrimage (hajj) (Q22:27)
🌹24.Give charity /spend (in the way of Allah) (Q2:254)
🌹25.Don’t criticize small donation/charity of others (9:79)
🌹26.Be mindful of Allah and be with the truthful (Q9:119)
🌹27.Do not consume one another’s wealth unjustly (Q2:188)
🌹28.Stand firm for justice even if it is against yourselves(Q4:135)
🌹29.Do not remind others of the favours you done to them (Q2:264)
🌹30.Return a greeting in a better manner or at least the same (Q4:86)
🌹31.Do not be excessive, extravagant, don t spend wastefully (Q17:26)
🌹32 Life of this world is no more than the delusion of enjoyment (Q3:185)
🌹33.Performing prayers (salat/namaz) is a duty on the believers (Q4:103)
🌹34.Turn away from trash talk like gossip, slandering people etc.(Q28:55)
🌹35.Fasting is prescribed for you-as it was for those before you (Q2:183)
🌹36.Don t Bribe authorities in order to devour a portion of others’ property(Q2:188)
🌹37.Establish prayer (salat/namaz) and donate from what was provided (Q8:3)
🌹38.Establish prayer (salat/namaz) and donate from what was provided (Q14:31)
🌹39.Establish prayer (salat/namaz), pay alms-tax, and bow down with those who bow down (Q2:43)
🌹🕋40.Know that this worldly life is no more than play, amusement, luxury, mutual boasting, and competition in wealth and children.(Q57:20)🕋🌹
✍Explanation:
💚Please note these are not the complete ayats, but I took keywords from each ayat. If you would like to read the full ayat, then check the reference.
💬For example take a look the first statement:
🌹Dont insult (Q49:11), when you google Quran 49:11, then you will see the complete surah’s English translation and you will see following:
☝🕋O believers! Do not let some ˹men˺ ridicule others, they may be better than them, nor let ˹some˺ women ridicule other women, they may be better than them. Do not defame one another, nor call each other by offensive nicknames. How evil it is to act rebelliously after having faith! And whoever does not repent, it is they who are the ˹true˺ wrongdoers.☝🕋
🤲🌻ALWAYS REMEMBER🌻🤲:
✍Allah is the most merciful and forgiving, no matter how much you have been sinning, run towards Allah , turn to Allah and repent , ask for forgiveness. Some references from the Quran:
🌺🌺🌺🕋Quran 39:53🕋🌺🌺🌺
Say, ˹O Prophet, that Allah says,˺ “O My servants who have exceeded the limits against their souls! Do not lose hope in Allah’s mercy, for Allah certainly forgives all sins. He is indeed the All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
🌺🌺🌺🕋Quran 25:70🕋🌺🌺🌺
As for those who repent, believe, and do good deeds, they are the ones whose evil deeds Allah will change into good deeds. For Allah is All-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
🌹Feel free, copy and paste this message
I$is dont agree 😂
Opposite😆♥️
@@User-vb7gl🫠 ever wonder why their called modern day devils by the GRAND Mufti of the Middle East
Ok
If anyone needs to debate against the Islam people say this why does Allah and Satan have the same attribute of making people forget? If Allah only has that power to make Mohammed forget then how can Satan have that power also if nothing and no one is like allah????? Also Mohammed said if I make false sayings my arorta will be cut not in a literal sense so that would make him a false prophet!!!!!!! Your Allah is Satan in disguise We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget, except what Allah should will. (Qur'an 87:6-7)A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a man in the mosque. Thereupon he said: May Allah have mercy upon him; be reminded me of the verse which I had been made to forget. (Sahih Muslim 788b; bk 4, 1721)Quran 6:68And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people.
- Saheeh InternationalChapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable)
Sahih International: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,Chapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable)
Sahih International: Then We would have cut from him the aortaSahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
I appreciate Rami's polite and respectful approach. So far I've watched a third of this video. But will all due respect, I would like you guys to push back a little more firmly against claims that detractors make. Otherwise you're just giving a platform to a non-Muslim to spread doubts with no other benefit.
Sorry if this comes off as harsh, may Allah preserve you all.
The same way the western world gives Islam a platform to share their message .. and the Muslim world doesn’t .. to the point of making it illegal.
No your right it would open more hearts to the truth. but the could have just forgotten what he asked or said.
Can’t push back based on feelings. You can only use facts. These guys did a good job but the facts are not on their side respectfully
If anyone needs to debate against the Islam people say this why does Allah and Satan have the same attribute of making people forget? If Allah only has that power to make Mohammed forget then how can Satan have that power also if nothing and no one is like allah????? Also Mohammed said if I make false sayings my arorta will be cut not in a literal sense so that would make him a false prophet!!!!!!! Your Allah is Satan in disguise We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget, except what Allah should will. (Qur'an 87:6-7)A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a man in the mosque. Thereupon he said: May Allah have mercy upon him; be reminded me of the verse which I had been made to forget. (Sahih Muslim 788b; bk 4, 1721)Quran 6:68And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people.
- Saheeh InternationalChapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable)
Sahih International: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,Chapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable)
Sahih International: Then We would have cut from him the aortaSahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
Shaykh Uthman knows these snakes and treats them as such, we need to stop being polite to these liars and expose them for what they are
I like brother Shamsi he doesn't let Christians waste his time. He just says to them '"so god became a baby and someone had to change his nappy". 🤣🤣🤣
Yes brother Shamsi is very strict towards the Christians and Jews. He doesn't let them divert.
In other words, because of his lack of understanding, he resorts to mocking🤣
@@jay_mojitois it true or not?
@@jay_mojito So speaking the truth is mocking?
@Dodgydrains Saying God became a baby and had someone change his nappy and laughing is mocking. That's very clearly mocking, not saying the truth.
*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Introduction
00:11 - GodLogic on Young Don leaving the Trinity
01:03 - Background of GodLogic
03:44 - How GodLogic got into Christianity?
05:23 - GodLogic's arguments for the Trinity
12:06 - Evidence for Jesus pbuh claiming to be God?
14:53 - Reliability of the New Testament?
22:09 - Analysis of the New Testament's authenticity
31:00 - Anghel shares his Religious Journey
34:59 - Islamic view of the Previous Scriptures
1:17:20 - GodLogic leaves
1:19:18 - Muslims accepting previous prophets
1:21:01 - Having cordial discussions with Christians
1:21:58 - Closing Remarks
1:22:35 - Wrapping Up
Jazak Allah Khairan 💯
@@Mo9ala7 Wa Iyyak Akhi 😊☺️
If anyone needs to debate against the Islam people say this why does Allah and Satan have the same attribute of making people forget? If Allah only has that power to make Mohammed forget then how can Satan have that power also if nothing and no one is like allah????? Also Mohammed said if I make false sayings my arorta will be cut not in a literal sense so that would make him a false prophet!!!!!!! Your Allah is Satan in disguise We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget, except what Allah should will. (Qur'an 87:6-7)A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a man in the mosque. Thereupon he said: May Allah have mercy upon him; be reminded me of the verse which I had been made to forget. (Sahih Muslim 788b; bk 4, 1721)Quran 6:68And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people.
- Saheeh InternationalChapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable)
Sahih International: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,Chapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable)
Sahih International: Then We would have cut from him the aortaSahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
After I have read the Quran, I realized that all what humanity needs is this heavenly law. “The legislation of Quran will spread all over the world, because it agrees with the mind, logic and wisdom.” - Leo Tolstoy
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Hey there. Nice to see you.
@@cozakokotano6448 Hi. Hope your well.
Did a Google search on Leo Tolstoy, interesting character. Thanks for the mention
@@JesusisaMuslim brother if your religion wasn’t 100% true and there was another religion that was
Would u folloq the 100% true religion sent by God? Or the one that’s not 100% true
@@Ss3gokusIslam is
This man got exposed by Sheikh Uthman. He used two contradictory sources and picks and chooses when some versions of the Bible are wrong and when they’re right
@@DO_DHIKR_RIGHT_NOWyes
That's a lie🤣
yh, I find it very weird how he can just cherry pick what he likes from one source to another.
He did expose Shekh Uthman back tho. Sheikh Uthman's explanation towards the difference pronounciations of ajibtu was flawed.
@aj3706 he did cherry pick he misspoke. He never used the NIV.
@@jay_mojitowhat wrong with niv😂😂😂
I love how you guys could keep your calm and be polite through this whole conversation, great podcast
WOW beautiful conversation, amazingly calm and everyone gets there point said clearly with no interruptions.
Jizakum Allah Khair 🤲🏼
I have to disagree this time with the 3muslims. U guys shouldn't invite him. He's been cursing and mocking Allah, Prophet Muhammad and the Muslims all the time.
@havefaithahki I'm sorry but can't accept it. Allah says in the Qur'an to stay away from this kind of people who keeps insulting Islam. I heard after he met with the 3muslims, he did an after party on his channel. I don't know why u still want this guy on the stream. My heart burnt watching this.
@havefaithahki Doesn't matter how many times he's been humiliated by Shaykh Uthman, he will keep coming back and find other Muslims to hopefully get a 'gotcha' moment content for his channel. That's his job.
@havefaithahkiAnd it has already come down to you in the Book that when you hear the verses of Allah [recited], they are denied [by them] and ridiculed; so do not sit with them until they enter into another conversation. Indeed, you would then be like them. Indeed Allah will gather the hypocrites and disbelievers in Hell all together (4:140)
So you’re worried about words but not worried about terrorism and jihadis slaughtering Christians and Yazidi? Nice logic.
@@Getsumsimm we are here talking about the religion of Islam. Nothing about terrorism. Stop diverting.
I would commend you for you adab in this dialogue with this Christian, but I must say, such a soft handed approach might not have been the most appropriate for an individual like him.
Jazakallah Khair
i think sheikh uthman and sneako debunked him in public.
Yeah we don’t expect civilised conversation with a muslim either.
Individual like him... Knowledgeable in your texts you mean!?
@@mischiefmanaged1726 sneko is a clown
the guy has a video on his channel where his friends are laughing at a Quran recitation. They definitely needed a firmer approach.
Man, watching this live was pretty interesting to see as the chat was going crazy
Nah, what was crazy is the 3 v 1 and the Muslims still LOST HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Christians: Jesus came to me in a vision.
Ex-Christians: I actually read the Bible.
😂😂😂
@@MrSince2009 Also Muslim there should be no compulsion Prophet Mohammad levied Jizziya Tax on Jews and Christians expelled polytheist people destroyed their temple in Mecca what a joke 😅
@@user-yh3rw4sp4x There’s no compulsion in religion; you can chose not to join and pay the jizia tax instead, or your do you always want free 💩 like a free loader 😂😂
@user-yh3rw4sp4x Way to take everything out of context buddy.
@@user-yh3rw4sp4x wheres the context?
This guy just makes stuff up seriously
Exactly this guy makes his own gospels....if you want to know how people changed the bible it would be someone like him.
💯 Can't trust a word he says for real he has been coming onto every Dawah channel (that allows him) to spew his stuff, he seems decent enough on this stream but after years and years of the same stuff you kinda see it's like talking to a wall
@@hubertagamasu6283 Do you not feel embarrassed to write a statement so brazenly false? How far Christians have fallen wallahi is so sad.
Lmao the irony.
You guys literally make it up as you go along as we can see from this discussion.
The Muslims right😂😂😂
godlogic is talking without any logic😂
Doglogic
tell that to sheikh uthman who openly deceives and lies.
@@thaphenom9446 godlogic fan spotted
@@thaphenom9446 present one lie he told u can’t
@@thaphenom9446uthman doesn’t lie godlogic did lie tho
This debate feels a a between Godlogic vs sneako. Three Muslim made zero effort to defend the Quran for Godlogic's personal opinion about quran and the bible.
Godlogic was never strong. He just picks on actors and weak faith Muslims to appear strong.
What do u mean sneako , are u back biting ur bother?
I'm am going to be completely honest with you guys, whenever anyone brings up anything in the Quran, never, never, say, what your opinion is on the verse, even if you have a faint understanding of it, before you ever even discuss a verse with a person, you should have read many tafaseer and asked scholars or your teachers what the meaning/meanings of the verse are and the different opinions, you should know the verse from ahaadeeth and tafaseer of Scholars and arabic language, never, respond to a christian on a verse by looking up the tafseer as you are speaking to him, that is only going to make you say something wrong or misunderstand the verse as you are looking to respond to an entire misinterpretatioin within 15 seconds of reading tafseer instead of taking time to understand the verse fully, its arabic and its context and what scholars have said about it.
So I advise all the brothers sincerely, whenever Quran or hadeeth are brung up, if you have not done thorough research and asked any of your teachers, that you keep silent and tell the person I will get back to you on that and I don't know, it will save you from making mistakes, and having regrets about saying stuff you shouldn't, and most importantly misunderstanding the verses of Allah and informing your audience and the person in the conversation of something which is not true.
Allah = Mohammed Fake religion 😅
I know DogLogic off ClubHouse. This kis is doing Taqqyah more than Paul and the Shiia combined.
Please reach out to Sherman Burgess. He he led a Islamaphobes group in Australia, and converted to Islam a few months ago. Not sure why the brother isn’t getting more coverage.
I agree.
You are hilarious, IsLaMoPhObEs...
@@nemesis1291 a group advocating for deporting, attacking and restricting jews is antisemitism, for gays it would be homophobia, for the trans it would be transphobia, for blacks it would be racism, but for muslims is defense and valid criticism??? please wake up.
@@iyedabidi5304 "Islamophobia": The fear of speaking out against the rapidly growing religion/ideology that is out to repress all who do not follow its doctrine.
Omg... I haven't seen this yet and I'm beyond excited! I hope he goes on thought adventure next!
Bro i was on his stream yesterday. The arguments he made to me were absolutely horrible 😂
yea logic is a joke. he loses his arguments but he always seems to think hes winning or making points lol
He usually just add Sam samosa who just starts abusing people of they don't agree. They even abuse Christians who don't believe in the trinity like gang up bully them. Shameful.
Bro tell us what did u guys discuss on his stream?
I watched the streams, which one were you in?
@@cldrawings1224 the last one he had yesterday.
Christian: God is all powerful, Omniscience and Immortal
Also Christian: god was a baby and he prayed to god and didn’t know the Hour and died
Don't forget, as a baby, he "God" depended On his mother to feed him and clothe him, taught him how to talk etc 😂😂 this God of theirs was hungry, tired, went to the toilet. May Allah guide them
And he also died
Exactly. As a Muslim, even if we don't use any Scripture to justify that Jesus is God, we can just use logic argument. Like this is so simple to refute Christianity.
Muslims: God is All powerful, Omniscient and Immortal,
Also Muslims: God can’t come into his own creation, and He comes down to at every third part of the night to hear our prayers
Didn’t God reveal himself in a form of a burning bush to Mosses? why is more difficult to believe he can reveal himself as human ?
It seems that islam makes way more sense
“When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish.” (Quran 17:81)
“Do they not then ponder upon the Qur'ān? Had it been from someone other than Allah, they would have found in it a great deal of discrepancy” (4:82).
''Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood. So whoever renounces false gods and believes in Allah has certainly grasped the firmest, unfailing hand-hold. And Allah is All-Hearing, All-Knowing.'' (2:256)
@@TheAnarchious yes, falsehoods are bound to perish just like Christianity.
@@cozakokotano6448no actually Islam. It already is
@@TheAnarchiousWhy does allah have 2 right hands? Is he a handicap god?
@@AdrianoTheOne I had to laugh at your ignorance.
He made so many false claims about the perception of reliability by the early church fathers. And many of his false claims went unchallenged.
Can you give me one early church father who attributed the gospels to anyone other than Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John?
@@EgoEimiApologetics Google "Diversity in early Christian Theology"
@@EgoEimiApologeticsIf the bible is truly preserved, then there wouldn't be errors, and there wouldn't be any attempts to correct the errors. There are "Revised Editions", "New Revised Editions" etc which clearly different numbers (not just translations), and even some verses removed, because Christian scholars are constantly attempting to go back to the purest form. If they already had the purest form, there wouldn't be a need to revise.
@@TheRockeyAllen no no no, that wasnt your claim. We’re not talking about theology here. We’re talking about authorship, which is what Avery was referring to. So im gonna ask you again, can you give me one early church father that attributed the gospel to anyone other than matthew mark luke or john. Dont change the goal post.
@@EgoEimiApologetics Muslims think that Christianity and Judaism believe the same as they believe of the Quran. That we received a Recitation but in Abrahamic tradition the word of God inspired the prophets and apostles and they wrote down their testimony through their words. Not that they would memorize a angels saying and recite it.
20 "Behold, I send an angel before you to guard you on the way and to bring you to the place that I have prepared.
21 Pay careful attention to him and obey his voice; do not rebel against him, for he will not pardon your transgression, for my name is in him.
22 "But if you carefully obey his voice and do all that I say, then I will be an enemy to your enemies and an adversary to your adversaries.
23 "When my angel goes before you and brings you to the Amorites and the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Canaanites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, and I blot them out, (Exodus 23:20, ESV)
Faiyad look like the kinda dude that stares at himself the entire zoom meeting LOL. Couldn't help myself bruv.
I was thinking what you typed 😂
Wow idk but GodLogic raised some great points this is pretty problematic honestly.
What points exactly?
@mcfcDJ51
Agreed!
what points ?
@The3Muslims, some in the said GodLogic once blasphemed the Prophet. I have a question, how do you blaspheme a human being, I thought you can only blaspheme God. Is your prophet God?
The prophets are messenger of God. So disrespecting them is a sin and form of blasphemy as they ordered to be respected by God. Blasphemy could mean to lie about someone doesn't have to be God necessarily as you can see by the context 😉
‘Ubadah ibn al-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Whoever testifies that there is no God but Allah alone without any partners, that Muhammad is His servant and His messenger, that Jesus is the servant of Allah and His messenger, His word which He bestowed upon Mary and a spirit from Him, and that Paradise is the truth and Hellfire is the truth, then Allah will admit him into Paradise by whatever good deeds he had done.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 3435, Sahih Muslim 28
@@hubertagamasu6283
Women and girls in Bible:
Bible says rapist has to marry their victims in Deuteronomy 22:28-29.
Bible says slaughter men women children and nursing babies in 1 Samuel 15:3.
Bible says slaughter women and young males and take little virgin girls as wives
in Numbers 31:17-18.
Bible days women's pregnancy pain is their punishment in Genesis 3:16.
Bible says you can sell your daughters as slaves in Exodus 21:7.
Bible says pregnant women's stomaches would be ripped open and their children smashed to pieces in Hosea 13:16.
Jesus called that non-jewish woman a dog in Matthew 15.24-26 and Mark 7;26-27 for being a non-Jew.
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God doesn't need to kill himself to forgive our sins. God forgives all our sins above His blessed Throne.
Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “When a Muslim or a believer washes his face in ablution, every sin that he committed with his eyes will be washed away with the last drop of water. When he washes his hands, every sin that he committed with his hands will be washed away with the last drop of water. When he washes his feet, every sin that he committed with his feet will be washed away with the last drop of water, until he emerges purified from sin.”
Sahih Muslim 244
Deuteronomy and Ezekiel actually prove that.
That God would never send anyone to die for your sins.
Does god need a paedophile Mohammed ? Deflowers a 9yrs kid who was playing with dolls ? What kind of a psycho god who be this stupid to exalt a sex pest as ur leader ?
Mohammed is the problem for Islam ! Bad example , sex pest paedophile and cold hearted killer . He advices men to take breast milk . Are u serious ! Compare Mohammed and Lord Jesus who would u allow need female kids and women ? The guys conducting interview are very honest and civil . You question Islam in Pakistan, Afghanistan or Saudi Arabia u r killed . Even Muslims like western countries as they migrate their due to Christian freedoms . We allow debates about anything ? In Somalia , Pakistan or Afghanistan u can’t question Quran ? Who wants to serve a god that uses force to be loved ? 😊
Right you just got to do “works of faith” and blind recitations and rituals over and over again that will surely save you.. or maybe just kiss the rock and ask for forgiveness
Are you talking about your god or our God? Your god cant even speak English language. So, if you're talking about him, then you're right. He doesnt need to do nothing cos he cant do anything
The OT testifies for the NT and the NT confirms and reveals the mysteries of the OT. That's the power of the word of God!!
Brothers, please be careful of allowing shubahat to spread on this platform. This guy is clearly not a sincere person. May Allah give you guys barakah in spreading the religion.
Honestly you have not done enough research into the quran. It teaches that the bible should confirm the quran.
The Muslim here made a mistake when he said otherwise. Its criminal reading
Spoken like a true satanist
Allah = Mohammed Fake religion 😅
What did he say that was insincere?
@@monicalewisky4925if you been watching him you'd know. He's such polite boy here but when he's back to his gang you'll see hypocrite example. Quran has warned us Muslims.
All sins are forgiven for those who accept Islam.
Qur'an 8:38. Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them.
‘Amr ibn al-‘As reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do you not know that embracing Islam wipes away all sins committed before it, that emigration wipes away what came before it, and the Hajj pilgrimage wipes away what came before it?”
Sahih Muslim 121
You guys also have to kiss a stone, which is a pagan practice you donkey
World famous author, Leo Tolstoy said:
“Muhammad has always been standing higher than the Christianity. He does not consider god as a human being and never makes himself equal to God. Muslims worship nothing except God and Muhammad is his Messenger. There is no any mystery and secret in it. The law of the Qur’an will prevail in the world because it agrees with reason and wisdom. I have come to understand that humanity needs only a Divine law to establish the truth and destroy falsehood. Islamic law will encompass the entire world because it is consistent with reason and agrees with wisdom and justice.”
Do you know anything else that Tolstoy wrote? Or just that?🤣
@@g0bl1nk1ng
Keep crying. Christianity is false. My channel debunks Christianity and that pagan trinity.
The Muslims do not believe that the gospel and Torah that God revealed was totally lost we believe it is mixed with false hood as the quran says 2:42 and that is what the quran confirms that these scriptutes were indeed sent by God but the people distorted it for mere gains.
Purpose of confirming is that that this book Quran that is been revealed to Prophet Mohammed is not something new and is not rejecting and saying previous scripture was not from God but rather confirming it and is a criterion to judge between right or wrong.
There is no original sin. Adam and Eve prayed for forgiveness and God forgave them.
Qur'an 2:37. Then Adam received from his Lord [some] words, and He accepted his repentance. Indeed, it is He who is the Accepting of repentance, the Merciful.
The prayer for forgiveness by Adam and Eve.
Qur'an 7:23. “Our Lord, we have wronged ourselves, and if You do not forgive us and have mercy upon us, we will surely be among the losers.”
By that logic, Allah isn't just. Their sin wasn't dealt with.
@@snakejuni
They repented. God forgives those who sincerely repent to Him. We Muslims and Jews don't believe God came out of private part of a woman.
@@snakejuni
How so? Going off your logic, all sinners and wrong doers should go to hell even if they repent and are forgiven by God. Is that what you believe?
"If the world's problems were brought to the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ he would solve them all." - George Bernard Shaw
Why? Is he god?
He doesn't even come with better solution to slavery instead of exacerbating by endorsing it.
@@skeptic737 The Quran👇
"And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is? IT IS TO FREE A SLAVE, or to give food in times of famine, to an orphaned relative, or to a poor person in distress" Al Balad:12-16
The holey unrelibible👇
“And if a man beats his male or female servant with a rod, that man shall surely be punished. 21 However, if the slave does not die for a couple of days, then the man shall not be punished for the slave is his property" Exodus 21:20-21
During an interview with Angelika Neuwirth, the distinguished Professor of Qur’anic studies, she argued that the Qur’an has never been successfully challenged by anyone, past or present:
"No one has succeeded, this is right… I really think that the Qur’an has even brought Western researchers embarrassment, who were not able to clarify how suddenly in an environment where there were not any appreciable written text, appeared the Qur’an with its richness of ideas and its magnificent wordings."
Why does Quran say whosoever enters Kaaba is safe?
When ppl were killed inside during sack of Mecca 930 specifically Abu tahir
So u need White peoples approval to prove your religion if same situation is reversed by same professor she would be expelled from her University or worse even death threats haha 😂 just like Prophet Mohammad he needs approval from Jews and chrristians to consider him to be last prophet but when they challenged him to do miracles he ran like a dog 🐕 with tails between his legs what a fake prophet 😂
🤡🤡🤡🤡 Jesus was not first.
Mohammad was first muslim 6.163 quran verse.
Your whole name is wrong lol.
@@qasmb1546
Prophet Muhammad was first Muslim amongst the pagan arabs.
Quran 6:163. Sahih International.
No partner has He. And this I have been commanded, and I am the first [among you] of the Muslims."
All the Prophets were Muslims who submitted to the will of God:
Qur’an 22:78. And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you “Muslims” before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people.
Abraham:
Qur’an 3:67. Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allah]. And he was not of the polytheists.
Jacob and his sons:
Qur’an 2:132-133. 132. And Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], “O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims.”
133. Or were you witnesses when death approached Jacob, when he said to his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We will worship your God and the God of your fathers, Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac - one God. And we are Muslims [in submission] to Him.”
Joseph: Qur’an 21:101. My Lord, You have given me [something] of sovereignty and taught me of the interpretation of dreams. Creator of the heavens and earth, You are my protector in this world and in the Hereafter. Cause me to die a Muslim and join me with the righteous.”
Disicples were Muslims too.
Qur’an 3:52. But when Jesus felt [persistence in] disbelief from them, he said, “Who are my supporters for [the cause of] Allah?” The disciples said,” We are supporters for Allah. We have believed in Allah and testify that we are Muslims [submitting to Him].
Qur’an 5:111. And [remember] when I inspired to the disciples, “Believe in Me and in My messenger Jesus.” They said, “We have believed, so bear witness that indeed we are Muslims [in submission to Allah].”
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@@JesusisaMuslim *Where does it make that distinction in Quran?*
i.e that Mohammad was the "first" among the pagan arabs?
*None of the verses you mention make any such distinction.*
If having no beginning and no end makes one a god, then Melchisedec is a greater god since he had no beginning and no end according to the bible :
"Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life;" Hebrews 7:1-4
I was thinking the same thing, probably at the very same time as you were. This argument needs to used more often.
Melchizedek is referring to Jesus as a everlasting Priesthood. You need to study more not just assume. It shows lack of understanding Second template Jewish views.
@@kingdanny1070 That's the problem. You're religion requires too much explanation, that gets re-explained in version after version of the bible. Just like how every Christian has their own understanding if the Trinity, which is never mentioned in the entire book. For 2023 years, you all have been burdened to explain to rational people of other faiths, an irrational, illogical concept of The Almighty One True God (John 17:3). It's confusing to a non Christian to grasp, and God, not being the author of confusion, absolves Himself of this blasphemy and heresy that He has equals. Everyone, bar an atheist, can grasp that concept with no residual ambiguity or confusion. One God. Jesus' Master. The One Whom Jesus cried to, prayed to, relied on when he was unsure, submitted to as he restrained his own will. Pleaded to when faced with death. All of this is evident to me and billions of others who for no malicious or anti Christy intent, can not swallow that story. The 'Holy Spirit' wasn't corinated into the Godhead until the 4th century. I mean c'mon man. For me that's a humble, not devilish, simple, not evil, straightforward, not dodgy, No! My soul, my reason, my logic, my discernment and my common sense will not permit me to make such a leap of faith. The simplicity of Islam and it's concept of God, appeals to all of those components in me and billions of your fellow earthlings. We feel safer in accepting God's description of Himself, that we should face Him on Judgment Day, having worshipped, adored and obeyed his creation instead of Him. Jesus' mother. Mary pbuh never breastfed God. God never had a brother named James he played with as a baby, then toddler then wrestled with as a teen. James never wore God's clothes nor has God Almighty ever worn clothes as brothers imminentelly do. God never did those things but Jesus, who will never be or claim to be God, did have and live those experiences. We love Jesus, but we could nevdr worship him. Think about it. Jesus thanked God for allowing the people to see him pray to God prior to the miracle of Lazurus' resurrection, so that they would not attribute the miracle to him, but The Father. Why go through all of this, knowingnpeople like myself would one day be confronted with this story and conclude that Jesus is clearly disassociating himself of any divinity, covering his own self from any lie or misconstruing of what the people had just witnessed. He immediately made this prayer glorifying God post miracle and God had it scribed for all posterity to read and conclude as Jesus concluded. God is alone in His attributes snd Jesus has no share in His dominion. This is the right religion. This is the correct understanding. Any disagreement has to be coming from an emotional stance an not a logical one. "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, THE ONLY TRUE GOD, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent" John 17:3. That's what Muslims believe. By that statement, Jesus removes any assumption, claim or misunderstandings that may occur and spread that he has some God like powers to raise the dead. It was important to him that it be made clear. He goes away, leaves this earthly realm, and lo and behold, there are actually billions of people saying that he is a God, after his departure. I honestly believe that if he came back and reiterated the point, people would wash, rinse and repeat the same behavior. Paul in Romans 3:7 declares he's free to lie on the basis that end justifies the means. WowHe's a liar and your caught in the web that is that lie. Read Romans 3:7 With your own eyes, heart and understanding. He lied and his true motives for doing so will never be known. For that reason the 12 choses apostles rebuked Paul's teachings and never believed Jesus was their God. I mean, imagine Prophet Muhammad pbuh, saying something like that. You Christians would 'crucify' his name pbuh, and that's a fact. This would be your Golden Bullet to put those 'Jesus hating Muslims'to rest. But when we mention these things, they are explained away as a lack of spiritual understanding or we haven't been given the Holy Spirit yet etc. I mean first we have to believe before we can understand? Uh uh. If you wanna gamble your eternity on that, I'd advise otherwise, but it's your soul. I'll be over here where it's a safest of bets. Too long to proof read. You get it.
@@fwutiswurth7151 You wrote all to justify your error on why the book of Melchizadek. Writing the same Low level muslim polemic isn’t going to get you anywhere. Islam is more confusing than the trinity Allah in Islam has multiple attributes yet than how is he one? Muslims can’t even agree on Allah thats why there is so many schools like Salafi, Athari, Ashari, Ismailism, sufism. It gets worse since they all trace back to Muhammad and contradict each other. In Christianity you can only trace back Roman Catholicism and Orthodoxy so it makes it easier to know which church is true.
@@kingdanny1070 Ok I see. Your deaf, dumb and blind. Having ears, you cannot hear, having eyes but you see not. To you be you way, and to me be mine.
You guys need to realise who you're interacting with, you're laughing, joking and being very nice to a person that goes on everyday insulting the prophet peace be upon him and slandering Islam. be careful. thats my only advice I will say here.
Anyone who doesn't believe in him as a prophet is a slanderous right?
@@Jonathan-tw4xm No, that's the norm, that's what distinguish you from a Muslim and a non muslim, we don't expect every non muslim to believe in him at first until they learn about his life and how Islam is the truth, what this donkey does he goes around on youtube insulting our religion and making fun and slandering our prophet against others, how did you combine not believing to slandering and insulting?
@@Jonathan-tw4xmno he disrespects him tho it’s not like he just doesn’t believe in him he calls him a pedo and other stuff and preaches everyone to not follow Muhammad the pedo so that’s why
@@Jonathan-tw4xmblatant disrespect is different
@@sudaisfasheed325 he was a pedo. Unless you don't believe 50 year old man sleeping with a 9 year old is pedo. Then you can't judge any pedo ever.
Edit: the point is if he did that to a child he is a pedo. That's just a fact. Just because he is your prophet does not mean he wasn't a pedo.
I liked both sides of this talk. At times it did seem that Shamsi was grasping for an explanation about changes of the books but also made some good points and made me think about it. I may be biased after hearing heard botn sides, for me, Avery's version of the changes in a new book which these people sold, made more sense because there were a lot of verses that said the same thing (The confirmng that the books they have is true). Thanks for the talk all of you.
Guy just straight up made up all his own interpretations to fit his narrative lol
Yeah the Muslim guy made up his own interpretation. He should know Islam better
@@Jonathan-tw4xm hes talking about the christian lol
@@iyedabidi5304 Jonathan's sarcasm flew over your head like a jet plane 😂😂
Give an example
*A multi-personal God is much more powerful than uni-personal God.*
So ur logic, god can be a shit? God can be a toilet, god will never degrade himself. Common sense kafirman, stop liking ur comments d*** head
A short cut when talking with believers of the New and Old Testaments is to go through the scripts and their translations then see the texts added from the third till the twelfth century!! Then ask who added these and what about the early Christians before the fifth century who did not have third of what you have now between your hands… do you think they believed in trinity?
In contrary, Muslims since the first moment after prophet Mohammed Pbuh died had already the complete Quran memorised by heart by almost everybody as well as kept written by his companions.
Beautiful conversation! I loved how the 3muslims and Godlogic respectfully disagreed. But listen carefully to the points made. In the end it sounded like the 3muslims came to the same conclusion. Allah words cannot be corrupted. But people write their own books and lie! So the bible today is the same.
This was a very nice conversation I have watched this many times. You guys need to set another dialogue.
my man Avery didn’t want anything to do with Ijaz lol.. he knew he’ll get exposed yet again
😂😂😂😂 Your silly
Iljaz have said very bad racist things to our brothers and he have doxxed many Christian sisters and brothers, in our beliefs this is unacceptable behaviour and should be called out.
The fact that he didnt want to speek to Ijaz speaks VOLUMES on how insecure he is 😂😂
Exactly!
He’s a deceiver and he quickly jumps to questions about Islam that have already been answered to him when cornered. He realized two of the three muslims are new and still learning muslims so he wants to instill doubt. He’s in this for the money, wouldn’t be surprised if he’s a pastor.
@@BigJiadwho?
Ijaz did some sick and immature things. Like publicly telling people’s personal information during discussion online and cursing! It’s like this doesn’t botter you at all? This makes a bad impression to Non-Muslims. However, if guys like Ijaz are the guys you are supporting, it will do bad to the image of Islam. Sometimes it is so childish how some Muslim apologists and their fans behave. Just like kids on school! Talking about faith is not a football match, it is about truth! Jesus said: I am the Truth, the Way and the Live! He that follows me will have eternal live!
@@JohnMusic7 blud thinks I’m gonna believe this nonsense
Brothers, I'm a convert I grew up in a similar situation as this person. I studied the Bible, there is no possible way you can correlate a triune God in the old or new testament. I challenge any Christian to do so. You will find, they cannot justify from their own scholarship the authenticity of their own book. And NO, you cannot conclude God has a plurality at all in the old Testsment.
Brothers study these books before you discuss with these people, as the reason they are not guided when they claim to have searched for the truth is because they are not sincere, and they follow their own desires but are unaware.
I’d love to have a discussion with you on my stream about this topic
I’m Avery, the Christian speaking with them in the video
@@GodLogicApologeticsAccording to Christianity god became a baby and someone had to change his nappy😭🤣 Islam is the only true religion, AllahuAkbar ☝️
@GodLogicApologetics you are not educated on even the basics of the Koran, Hadith or Seerah.
I assume you wish to discuss th Bible exclusively?
Let me know.
@@torontoyes We can discuss it all. If I’m ignorant, that means I have room to grow.
Jesus teaching of repentance was only for Israel and not for the non-Jews. He also called that non-jewish woman a dog in Matthew 15.24-26 and Mark 7;26-27 for being a non-Jew. Jesus was only sent for Israel.
Matthew 15:24. I have only been sent to the Children of Israel.
Acts 5:31. “Him has God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.”
Honestly I was searching a vidéo about young don realizing that Islam is truth yesterday. It came today
Young don does not believe in the quran.
Guys this guy “god logic” doesn’t deserve to be a guest in the stream
He is neither respectful nor sincere
You can see this clearly in his video
“Godlogic reaction to quran”
This guy is very disingenuous, no point talking to him
Explain how was he dis ingenious?
His point about the quran saying the bible is not corrupt is actually in your scripture. The Muslim here lied about it
@@Jonathan-tw4xm Where does it say that?
@@honest_user in the video, watch it before commenting
If anyone needs to debate against the Islam people say this why does Allah and Satan have the same attribute of making people forget? If Allah only has that power to make Mohammed forget then how can Satan have that power also if nothing and no one is like allah????? Also Mohammed said if I make false sayings my arorta will be cut not in a literal sense so that would make him a false prophet!!!!!!! Your Allah is Satan in disguise We will make you recite, [O Muhammad], and you will not forget, except what Allah should will. (Qur'an 87:6-7)A'isha reported that the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) listened to the recitation of the Qur'an by a man in the mosque. Thereupon he said: May Allah have mercy upon him; be reminded me of the verse which I had been made to forget. (Sahih Muslim 788b; bk 4, 1721)Quran 6:68And when you see those who engage in [offensive] discourse1 concerning Our verses, then turn away from them until they enter into another conversation. And if Satan should cause you to forget, then do not remain after the reminder with the wrongdoing people.
- Saheeh InternationalChapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable)
Sahih International: And if Muhammad had made up about Us some [false] sayings,Chapter (69) sūrat l-ḥāqah (The Inevitable)
Sahih International: Then We would have cut from him the aortaSahih al-Bukhari 4428
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O `Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."
They want Christians to act a fool just like them during debates , this is actually how debates should go peacefully
God logic is the best wow ….. this was awesome 👏🏽 God is really using him
Amen!💖
Am a Christian, and I appreciate the conversation. Thank you.
In Qur'an, Satan in cursed:
Qur'an 15:34-35. 34.[ Allah ] said, "Then get out of it, for indeed, you are expelled.
35.And indeed, upon you is the curse until the Day of Recompense."
In Bible, Jesus is cursed:
Galatians 3:13. Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”
I'm really disappointed that you guys bring on this vile and malicious individual on your platform. He lies about Allah سبحانه وتعالى and Rasool Allah صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم on daily basis, casts doubts into the hearts of people and has been persistent on his false faith for a long time. There is no point in giving him a platform to spread further misguidance.
If anything, he should be shunned and dealt with harshness, one shouldn't be nice to him at all.
Dawah is given to those are sincere and looking for the truth, not those who are clear enemies of Islam and have been given dawah multiple times but are persistent on their falsehood, and are on a mission to misguide people.
You've spoken like a true cultist.
If you guys crossexamined your own religion enough, maybe others wont do the job for you.
But since you are abduls who cant think for yourselves....
Yes actual knowledgeable people will continue to crossexamine your religion for you.
So live with it!
Bro, there is nothing wrong in talking to a man like that with wisdom and kindness.
you should not bring on in-sincere Christian apologists
😂😂😂
"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."
Jomo Kenyatta.
And when the muslims went to Africa they enslaved you and made the continent underdeveloped like their war-torn arab countries.
I'd rather pick the westerners who brought the bible and used Christianity as a foundation to build their civilizations, than the arab who are still struggling to catch up with the WESTERNERS. Show me a stable muslim-dominated country that is experiencing some level of peace and development. Even Dubai had to import expatriates from outside arabia to come work and develop their city.
Yeah, and when the Muslims came to Egypt and to West African empires, what happened?
@@josevarghese8913Now many westerners are fleeing to the Muslim countries
When Islam came they came with sword and cutlasses
Taking about Africa, let’s not forget the Islamic slave trade was a thousand times worse than the Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Also, Muhammad owned Black slaves.
The son is God, the father is God the Holy Ghost is also God but there’s only one God: confusion upon confusion 🤦♂️
Q #1 Who makes the decisions, the son, the father or the Holy Ghost ?
Q #2 who did Jesus call upon when he was put on the cross? Can God allow his only son to be humiliated and dishonoured in the hands of his own creation (people) by putting him on the cross??
Q#3 did jesus say I am God worship me?
Q#4 who did Jesus prostrate to in Mathew 26:39?
Q#5 who did Mary worship?
Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) will be the leader of mankind on Judgement Day and will be the first one to enter Paradise.
It was narrated that Abu Hurayrah that the Messenger of God, Prophet Mohammad said: “I will be the leader of mankind of the Day of Resurrection, the first whose grave will be opened, the first to intercede and the first to be asked to intercede.”
Sahih Muslim, 2278
Anas b. Malik reported:
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: I will come to the gate of Paradise on the Day of Resurrection. and would seek its opening. and the keeper would say: Who art thou? I would say: Muhammad. He would then say: It is for thee that I have been ordered, and not to open it for anyone before thee.
Sahih Muslim 197
DogLogic "what drew me into engaging with islam is the money i can make from crosstians"
Islääm have no answers, no truth, no honesty only defamation and insults
Godlogic: say that one more time!
The minute he said that I could tell this guy has no brain 😂
He already got destroyed by sheikh uthman
I smell ketchup. And he couldn't even recite the shahada right to convert sneako lmao. Because he doesn't speak Arabic. HAHAHAHA.
The muslims had no rebuttal never bring up other scriptures but Avery brought up scriptures to back up his claim. That is how you rebuttal.
@@upclosepersonal yeah, I can see that's why Christians always lose to the sheikh and any Muslim. ☠☠☠
@cozakokotano6448 you guys are easily fooled.
@@upclosepersonal what are you saying? Sheikh uthman cant speak arabic? are you joking?
@@upclosepersonalsays the one who believes in trinity😭🤣
why ppl platforming this guy,, its like its content for you guys ,not dawah
I wonder why he didn't want to talk to ijazz lol , we need to get him with Hamza InShaAllah
Dog Logic 🤣
😂
Why is he a dog?
DOG LOGIC ALWAYS GOT DESTROYED 💀
Islääm have no answers, no truth, no honesty only defamation and insults
How?please explain
You changed the name god with dog now Muslims disrespect God?
@@CristianoRonaldo-fn4rrsmartest Christian. Calling god dog would still be way less than putting humans on the same level as him😂
Lick the black stone you dumb pagan😂😂😂
I like the cordial talk, screaming at eachother never gets anywhere
Concerning the part on Islamic view on the previous book
My add to that is that
The Quran clearly stated that this people wrote with their hand and claim it is from God.
Without corrupting the Torah or the Injeel they started claiming that the books they wrote is from God
In essence they started claiming that this books is The Torah or the Injeel
The fact that there’s a document that you call the Torah does not mean that it is the Torah
Of course it can contain some teaching from the Torah but it is not the Torah
For example
Concerning the Injeel
MUSLIMS believe that the Injeel was revealed to Jesus (pbuh) and jesus taught and preached with the injeel
The injeel from our point of view is not documents written about Jesus by some people , of course Mathew Luke mark and John were documents written about the life of Jesus ,from our point of view that is not the injeel
The injeel was revealed to and taught by jesus,
Even when you claim that what you have now is the injeel it is not
without lies islam dies
And I’ll add that some verse of the Quran explicitly challenge the version of some events present in those book
That is cap it never talks about writing but mis interpretation.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm actually it does
There’s a verse in the Quran where it says people are writing with their hands and claiming it Gods revelation
So that’s clear
I smelled something fishy when he said something about Ijaz insulting him (?!) Ijaz probably schooled him on the historicity of the bible and he couldn't respond!
My intention was too really watch this video with patience, but i just cant im sorry. I was already done after he said, its clear god is one, but he is also plural. The literal understanding of something being one is that it can NOT be plural. Its just mindblowing how someone can trully convince himself with this nonsense. Also all the verses of the bible he mentions, how would you ever even know this is Jesus his own actual words, it are all accounts of people who never ever even met Jesus. With all respect too christians but a trully honest and reflective person can never accept this kind of standards.
But you believe a man went into a cave and when he came back out.
He was suddenly divinely inspired lol
You guys are not serious at all.
@@niobserver1073what’s wrong with God sending an angel to a prophet to guide humanity
In (50:38) We created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six days,49 and weariness did not even touch Us.Quran states ur god is “ we” and prays to himself and Mohammed . Who is “ we “ .?
Why invite someone who is known to have blasphemed the Prophet, on various different occasions, and his channel is filled with blasphemous content? You essentially gave this Islamophobe, a wolf dressed in cheeps clothing, the platform to voice his thoughts, and by extension advertised and gave him a greater reach over more people, which is exactly what he want!
@@WarriorBreed-zt8uo It’s very disturbing! I’ve spoken to GodLogic (Avery) on multiple occasions, and in your face he’s literally a wolf dressed in cheeps clothing, and when he’s with he’s evil associates, they say things about Allāh and his Messenger ﷺ that I can’t even think about without feeling sick to my stomach, let alone repeat it. He himself, has blasphemed the Prophet, our beloved intercessor ﷺ, even on his own channel.
@@1446hijri what did he say?
@Todd1782 the truth
@@EgoEimiApologeticsthat’s a very good question..
@Zaccinho what did I say? Or can you at least point them to a source where we can find me doing what you accuse me of? Maybe a video clip? A link? Somethin other than baseless accusations would suffice 👍🏾
@@GodLogicApologetics Reading the comments on this video is absolutely hilarious. Muhammad slaughtered the Pagans of Mecca, mocked their God, destroyed their idols, and they have a problem with you bringing their lies to light. This should be a sign that youre on the right path brother Avery. Ive been in your streams all the time and the 'God Logic' theyre describing is so profound and imaginative. I thank you and commend your for what you are doing, muzzle the dogs of Islam and continue to bury Muhammad with his own delusions.
This guy has been humiliated by sheikh uthman and exposed for lying!
He doesn’t even keep to his word, he was meant to post a public apology after getting caught out by sh uthman
😂😂😂😂😂
That's so funny. You should pay more attention to what is being said. He didn't talk about niv the whole time.
I recommend watching the video avery did to respond. He didn't praise niv.
Niv isn't even a good translation.
Ketchup boy Uthman can't even read Arabic well
Sheikh Uthman ate him alive, this boy is too coward to rectify. Also i was waiting for his apology video, he got BUSTED.
@fonsalvarado you watched his video but you didn't listen to this one.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm i watched this video, he pretends he can’t understand the corrupted versions of the Injeel and the Torah do not change the original message, which are the ones the Quran speaks about and now are lost. His logic is just stubbornness. In the latest discussion with Uthman he denies he uses the NIV (which changed the age of Ahaziah aknoledging a mistake which godlogic was trying to twist to make it right), but in a prior video he assures that is the version he uses. Just a child trying to win arguments at all costs. Its fun to watch him twitch and convolute to avoid getting caught 😂.
You can tell Avery has not genuinely read Chapter 2 (Surah Baqrah) OR researched any Tafseer on it. Quran 5/48 states the previous scriptures were changed by desires OVER the truth which came to The Prophet (PBUH) aka The Quran. Then the Quran DISMANTLES the trinity with Chapter 5 Verse 72. This entirely debunks Avery's points in this podcast. He should realize he believes in the corrupted and changed scriptures. Islam has and will always maintain ground since its been preserved without a single contradiction. Alhamdulilah ☝
I think it’d be super interesting if you guys brought on an Orthodox Christian like Sam Shamoun or Jay Dyer for a discussion.
Is anyone surprised why he ran from ijaz ahmed...ijaz destroyed him last time
No he personally attacked him. I also hear that he revealed personal information about him.
@@Jonathan-tw4xmjust take the L fam 😂
@@yusufbey1587 if what im saying is true then. its a serious problem. i dont think you would argue with someoe who says mohammed is a pedo, which he is by the way.
your prophet is a pedo who violated a minor. which means you think that kind of thing is ok.
Jazak Allah brothers for being so cordial please keep this stream backed up as the guest will throw all of his church fathers, books and versions under the bus in order to push his narrative. Really enjoyed it he was happy to fully tie himself up in knots without any pressure Daees take note on this masterful approach. May Allah reward you all ameen.
Lol didnt this guy get humiliated by sheikh abu uthman? Why are you guys playing with dead roadkill?
he destroyed and humilated uthman what are you talking about
Why did Mohammed play with a little girl?
@@bambbambboyguy123he married a women buddy
@bambbambboyguy123, and you're gonna say, oh yeah, a 9 year old woman, she hit puberty, and that determined if someone was an adult or a child 100 years ago and keep counting
@jakabok226 oh really? I didn't see it all he did was bring stupid arguments, and uthman caught him lying and twisting around hadiths to his favor oh and the niv bible incident, where he contradicted himself
Also,just for clarity, all the apostles were specifically handpicked by Jesus for his ministry against selecting at random so it would make sense that he chose people with literacy for the purpose of documentation and evangelism.
Reading the comments from both sides makes it appear that people really see what they want to see. Christians see this as a clear victory, Muslims see this as a clear victory.
It is really interesting how people can view the same object and still see different interpretations.
I think Rami didn’t clearly explain why the Quran doesn’t acknowledge the today bible and Torah to be correct. He could’ve simply point out the fact that Allah brought some verse just to refute the Bible and Torah version. For instance, there are verse just to clarify that story from the Bible and Torah that are saying Solomon was a disbeliever are false. Same thing goes for Noe. There is a verse where the only purpose is to say that the alcoholic part is false. Same thing for Jesus, there is a verse that refute his crucifixion.
Why would Allah give words to clarify those parts if the Bible and Torah already got the story right ? Those verses are here to prove those scriptures were tempered
Agreed.. I honestly don’t see this discussion as a “me Vs them” type of situation.. we simply reasoned together and agreed to disagree ultimately. It was a very nice discussion.
@@elmousse007if it got corrupted once with the torch.
I can guarantee it happened again with the quran
Very good point
I did the same .. compared both video comments
@@Tomf-tz4pd I noticed a lot of Muslims in this comment section are upset that they even spoke with me and had a nice discussion.
bro said the Quran goes against the teachings of the bible. Bro…. you are a christian, HAVE YOU READ THE OLD TESTAMENT?
Have you read the quran.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm man-god human sacrifice is against the old testament
If that dude loves this approach why does he always call sam samosa to back him up and abuse people when they disagree with him?
dont call him a dog dont stoop to his level
That's the typical Christianity.
@@cozakokotano6448 Muslims are allowed to be liars by their Allah
@@hassentrh2118 you are a creature with very low morals, Avery never swears, calling people names and he's educated in your theology.
Another gem you don’t want to talk about 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Surah 66 (At-Tahrim)
Verse 9: O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.
I’m 14 minutes in, y’all are too nice sometimes, it’s not rude to make sure somebody isn’t just making claims make people back up what they’re saying because he already saying nonsense
I concur wholeheartedly. I hate to be critical of their efforts, and I prayed that Allah reward and guide them but I feel they are patient to a fault, if that's possible. When they have an opportunity to establish the Haq after his claims, they reply with something like, "Oh, that's interesting." It makes you wonder who's giving the dawah. Instead of just saying the truth , clear and direct, they ask him to explain everything. If Ahmed Deedat and Zaakir Naik couldn't persuade this guy, then what's the sense of engaging with this dude?
Hehe funnily enough I am having the same thoughts now that I am almost 14minutes in, 13:23 to be exact. He already made a lot of interpretations that are wrong, and they could have refuted. Maybe they don't realize that he is gone edit this video to fit his narrative and make it seem like they even agreed with him. Regardless I wish they didn't let him get away with a lot of things eventho it is obvious that nothing would stop this guy from lying based on his videos with Uthman and so on.
@@AbdulazizKiderExactly, especially at the end when he says the Quran aknowledge their version of the Torah and Bible. Easily refutable. A lot of verse in the Quran were reveled just to disprove the biblical narrative. A few examples are verse about Solomon and Noe that directly says what those scriptures said about them aren’t true
@fwutiswurth7151 Honestly, you make this claim, but you have no good argument.
@@AbdulazizKiderbut that was an explicit claim in revelationbs if the question was in the gospels then they should have said so they asked for that
Good thing you guys didn’t bring Ijaz on it would have messed up a brilliant cordial convo you all were having. I find the answer given by GodLogic to your question(s) essentially based on schools of thoughts founded on historical and biblical sources, however the inability of any of you to give clear coherent response to GodLogic’s questions is very glaring it appears that the idea of the Bible being corrupted is actually brought into Islam after prophet Mohammed and not by him. Good thing GodLogic had to leave but I think he had you guys in an extremely tight corner. Good one guys hope to see more
GodLogic made many false claims and got away with false claims because the brothers here were being too cordial.
@@TheRockeyAllen it will be helpful if you gave examples, he gave references for all he said that formed his reasoning, but the guys could not give any references rather relied on what the multiple interpretations of the Arabic could be unfortunately they could not tie their interpretations within the context of the statement which GodLogic successfully did even with his position that there is no evidence that the Quran disputes the the Bible he gave great contextualised Quran and Arabic scholar references to buttress his point. They made statements and gave understanding based on their belief which seems to be from what they have been told rather than what they had thoroughly and objectively researched
You thought you were writing an intellectual comment but you just made yourself look uneducated . We have plenty of hadith from the time of the prophet pbuh that shows clearly those books are corrupted…. Without lies Christianity dies
A lot of Muslims are just crying on here instead of refuting what GodLogic said.
🤣🤣🤣
Word.
They actually just say whatever. You can tell from the comments they don't follow arguments.
It's because they mindlessly pray 5 times a day.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm, 🤣🤣🤣.
They’re a bunch of funny people.
@@edward1412 we need to pray for them. Their idol worshippers
Moslems can’t handle the truth. GodLogic is very articulate and very calm. GodLogic was not firm enough, he was too nice. GodLogic please don’t compromise by being too nice.
They cant dispute facts bro
May you all walk in the light 🕊️☘️
Assalamu alaykom , is it good let this christian preach cristianity for this long time ?
He is an exposed liar period! May Allah guide him.
What did he ly about.
What he said and prove it was a lie.
Otherwise your lying
Your false god doesn't exist
@@Jonathan-tw4xm they are fuming that Godlogic checkmated them , he had them backed into a corner
@@iankennedy1441lmao
Avery makes a claim that ijaz and isa dawah insulted him therefore he doesn't speak to people who insult him..
Yet sheikh uthman has made many vids on him and insulted him but he still speaks to sheikh uthman and chases him...but I get it ijaz ahmed destroyed avery mentor and teacher sam shamoun few years ago and since then Sam has been running from ijaz so I understand why avery would be sweating to hear ijaz name or any mention of ijaz wanting to speak to him
Who is ijaz ? Send me link to vid bro please.
can you share the link of the video ijaz debated him in?
@hassentrh2118 my brother its on calling christians channel ..title of clip is anxious avery
@@rapidblaze5664 thanks for the help brother
@@rapidblaze5664I'll watch it and see
Alhamdulilah 🙏 for Islam May Allah swt bless you brother's
How about mohammad😅
For Islam to be true, Allah has to be unable to protect his word from beimg distorted and to preserve it. Is that acceptable? In Christianity, God preserved his word, which is why the bible has all the books of the prophets and the Torah and the gospel, and the epistles.
To answer Avery’s question of can the quran be corrupted as well? To answer, firstly, why the Quran was able to maintain its authenticity was because this revelation, prophet Muhammad conveyed this message to many companions of his. As a result, the scripture, if it was recited differently, the companions would be able to tell if there’s wrongs in the recitation, thus maintaining its authenticity. Same system with the Hadiths, where the same Hadiths the prophet shared with different companions at different times, they were able to crosscheck each other. Even till today if someone changes it or recite it differently, millions of muslims are able to point it out.
Where I would argue the bible today would be different is we cant even track the scripture back to Jesus which we Muslims believe the word was revealed upon to. Thats why the bible always starts “According to St….”. That is why we have issues with the authenticity.
When the Quran says: ”confirming what is with them”, its not impossible the Jews at the time still had the original manuscripts, but still they chose to lie and manipulate, as affirmed in the next verse 2:42. We dont know what scriptures they had at the time.
2:42 talks about overlaying the truth with falsehood as this verse was sent down when the Jews told skewed truths when the Arabs went to them at the time for advice as they were perceived as the learned ones.
You cannot make an argument that the Quran is affirming the torah and injeel as they are too many versions. Which version do you believe God is saying? God is talking about the original scriptures. The context is there, if you read it completely, the verse make sense.
@@ziqrammattthank you
Did anyone expect this guy to make sense?
I expect him to make as much as 3=1 🤣
No Christian did.
One muslim went on a dialogue with himself refuting nothing, the other nodded and spoke none the 3rd couldn't refute. What the hell did you watch?
@@ExperienceLife1990 alright so you didn't watch the video. Nice 👍
Who rami
Wonderful conversation 3muslims. Thank you and Avery for the good listen!
This guy is just ridiculous, man got destroyed by Sheick Uthman.
Ibn fibbin ketchup needs to #Releasethedocumentary
He needs to do a joint performance with jussie smollet. Perhaps they can get some Nigerian actors to "attack them" in prime MAGA country (California!)
Destroy must have a new meaning
@@niobserver1073it happen....😂
@@niobserver1073 same meaning. Also I am worried if u think this guy knows what he is talking about. Guy like the macArthur study Bible. Then explains totally different, with his made explanations, for the contradictions of the bible
Scripture from bc Crist, like the - Testament of Solomon and the book of Enoch describes Jesus and states his existing before his birth among mankind….and he also claims by his own words that even Moses prophecies about his coming and holy divinity as the only son and messiah of god and salvation of mankind….and this was one of the reasons why the jews wanted his death.
Wait they have changed, with additions and subtraction. The NIV version has be revised twice from 1976 to today....
U Guys misspelled doglogic