Hello, Byron, I’ve just been lucky enough to discover your channel, when looking for Hobie info. You’re really relevant to my fishing pursuits because: 1) you’re in Australia 2) your logical, no-nonsense approach to both information sharing, and product choice & review, gives me a sense of familiarity with you straight away. 3) you list both pros and cons equally, not glossing over any points. Well-shot production, clean edits, quality a/v gear, all adds up to a product that’s enjoyable to watch, informative, cost, fit and availability- relevant. Well done to you & your crew.👍👍
Great insight Byron! Aparently the Brushless sound reduction diminishes 16:30 as the Motor ages. Would have really like to see the Ultrex included, to make it a full review on the best available.
I have an ultrex..... and are around them a lot with at least 30 tournament friends that run ultrex.... even though they are reliable they are extremely noisy both the motor and the head turning motor.
I'm selling my Garmin for the New Quest...that should tell you a little something..I was that impressed with it.. I wasn't all that impressed with the Garmin..
I’ve had the Garmin about a year and love it. It pushes my boat well at 24v. Only issue I’ve had with it is when a tree fell on the shaft during a storm . It’s a tough little beast. While I was expecting catastrophic damage, it only cracked the shaft and the shock damaged the control board (controller did not take a direct strike). Hell I think the tree would have done more damage to the boat itself than it did the motor if the motor wasn’t there 😂. Anyways I bought a new shaft, and Garmin replaced the board under warranty. Both were easily fixed in a couple hours, and it performs perfectly again.
I've been looking for a recent video of the Garmin, so I appreciate this post. I've got a chance to save over $2K on some Echomap sonar's on sale at Bass Pro in the U.S., but I'm really on edge about the Force. Lot of issues floating around with the Force, with the consensus being "It's the best trolling motor on the market, once the issues get fixed". And, most of those reviews were 1-2yrs ago, minimum. Although, this is the first review I've heard talking about a poor/cheap foot-pedal design with the Garmin, or bad customer service from Garmin. Garmin US has been very responsive, by all accounts I've seen. So, this is somewhat surprising. Doesn't seem to be any good answers, at this point, short of the best price available (which in my case, at the moment, is the Force). What a mess...and Minn-Kota's supply chain only makes the Ultrex available (without the normal remote, or bluetooth, which they'll send once they become available)....how convenient for Minn-Kota. What a mess. Makes me want to throw my hands up for a ridiculously overpriced Power-Pole Move, which is supposed to be indestructible.
Great video, certainly advantages of brushless over the old school minnkota, any word on the minnkota going brushless? I often wonder why these manufacturers don't do a polarity swap button, save spinning the head 180 degrees to move back out after retrieving a lure from a bank or obstacle. Pain in the neck going in, focusing on the job of not breaking a rod tip and removing trebles, then to have to spin the head around and try and manoeuvre back again. Be an easy mod, solenoid flips the +/-.
Another great review mate , interesting too see what arrives in the next 2 years and improvements too some of these existing units, it seems every brand does soo well and just miss the mark by 2% on something that has you scratching your head 😅 can't wait for more reviews
Minn kota is still the king of trolling motors. They have been doing it for 85 years. Lets see in 5 years how these motors have held up. Both of these are their companies first jump into making motors, and we all know how that goes.
Great review mate. Would any joe blow get the fly in rep service seriously you know that truthful answer. I’d love a Ghost but a smaller boat security reasons at home to remove each trip. The Min Kota if you choose is a great motor with plenty of great features. Hand control, foot and phone controls Bluetooth if all fails. Have a safe trip O/S and hope to to see more content.
Will be interested to see your experiences and thoughts when you get around to Humminbird and Minn Kota. Great review as always. Given you have now run both Garmin and Lowrance sounders - any real stand-out or preferences purely from a sounder perspective?
Great vid as always mate. Would Garmin go to the extent they have of sending a rep if it wasn't for you? I think they may have realised you have a large reach on the socials and a large influence in sales so went the extra mile. Pretty poor to leave you and the marine dealer high and dry to begin with 🤷🏽♂️ Great information throughout the vid mate and if I do switch to a boat I'll take the tips on board.
Second this point. Flying a guy in to personally fix a issue is - let’s be honest - the best service ever in the history of boating, or at least highly unusual. Have to think there is some sort of ‘we need to sort this one guy out asap’ type stuff. Even so, respect to them for actually doing it. Credit where it is due. Great vid Again BTH, onwards and upwards.
With the garmin pedal, there is an adjustment screw which adjusts the pressure u were describing. I found it by accident, cause i hated it like u did, till i found that screw.
mate you are correct, I thought I put a graphic up saying there was an adjustment screw. maybe it didn’t work. you’re right though, did play around with it
You can purchase all those parts relatively cheap. I just did brushes and a new armature and all seals on my minn kota for $70. I think the housing was $30. 307 fish is a good source for all the parts, cheap and easy to work on.
I’m really disappointed that neither of these units have remote trim. I fish in shallow water with oyster bars and irregular rocks. Can’t really get by without being able to adjust the trim remotely.
Can you hold speed in km/h or mph with the Lowrance Ghost? Not just the power setting, but actually holding a speed like you can do with a Minn Kota iPilot remote.
Hey mate, just want to confirm that the Lowrance ghost is able to go in saltwater? Everything I’ve read says that it is only warranted for freshwater and it cannot go in brackish or salt water. I’m looking to get one, but I predominantly fish saltwater estuaries.
Or for the same price you can get the brushed minn kota, it will have less power, less range, and it'll take a crap on you next year.... minn kota should be charged criminally for that decision. Their motor tech is far older than the Flintstones
A huge shame Garmin and Lowrance are only focussed on the 'bass boat' market for motors, neither are built for saltwater due to shaft length. Minn Kota motors are good, though overpriced for a brushed motor, but the Humminbird performance is terrible compared to Garmin and Lowrance sounders, especially live view, so pairing MK with a sounder is far less than optimal.
Hey legend, So the models I have were the short shaft length but they do come in longer versions. I guess it depends on your boat right! I am keen to get into it, but I understand the Birds actually present a clearer image than Garmin and Lowrance but like I said, I need to try it out! 🤣
@@ByronTeaHill Yeah, but Ghost maxes out at 60", Force at 57". Birds are indeed megahertz, which helps with sidescan, but their processing algorithms are way behind Garmin (also Megahertz) and Lowrance. Also Helix is not touchscreen, unlike comparable models from Garmin/Lowrance, so you need to go to Solix which is considerably more expensive than Garmin Ultra and Lowrance HDS Live yet performs worse on most metrics. But the real problem with Humminbird is that Mega Live is total crap compare to Lowrance Active Target, and Garmin is leaps ahead again with their new LVS34 Livescope and their extended range LVS62. Great reviews, keep it up.
Man love the knowledge, I understand a few of the decisions like no touchscreen are done on purpose. Yeah keen to experience the Humminbird products, cheers legend.
@@jasonstokley7274 Transducer is not relevant, the chartplotter is what talks to the motor for functions like follow contours etc, and only Humminbirds talk to MK, Garmin only talks to Force, Lowrance only talks to Ghost/Motorguide. I've always been a bit baffled why anyone would fit a transducer to a pseudo randomly rotating motor unless you never fish with spot lock.
@@ByronTeaHill Hi Byron, i have no idea how brushless actually works. I just bought a Garmin Striker 7 SV sounder, my first but not installed yet. I had read an online article about being compatible with the Garmin trolling motor. Only owned a Minn Kota Riptide for 2 years & i agree i would buy Lithium once my AGM claps out or sooner 120 ah weighs a ton. At 64 this Riptide is hurting me pushing & knee it in the head to deploy & drag the hell out of it to stow the mongrel. I need an easier life of fishing & that Garmin motor looks the goods. Was just wondering about the pitfalls of brushless down the track. Thanks for the reviews you do to inform us, cheers.
Brushless is the only way to go!! I am a long time cabinet maker and the truth is battery life with brushless is twice as long as the old school brushless!!
Hey bud, sorry to dissapoint. theres no review because GPS anchoring is mint on both. I guess its because its now 2023 you'd expect it to not be a problem
Hahahahahahahah Lowrance costumer service vs Garmin customer service here in the states 😮💨 Garmin is light years better.. I mean Power-Pole comparable.. Power-Pole along with Chik-fil-a having the best costumer service in the WORLD.. I fish full time and currently run a ghost and have for the last 3 years.. TUFF AS NAILS!! Period!! Loud as a sum b**ch tho.. Blades break easy so have a spare.. Another thing about the ghost is if your a live scope guy the magnetic arrow on top is very very inconsistent finding your bait, so get ready for that aggravation.. Better at least have the 34 Garmin transducer.. Don’t even consider the active target.. I’ve literally gone threw 4 black box’s because they get sooooo hot you could almost light a cigarette off it.. Couple weeks and it’s fried.. Oh, did I mention the ghost would wake the dead far as noise… Recently I’ve made the change to the force.. Automatically, I mean in a instinct I was impressed with basically NO noise and the power vs the ghost it had!! WOW!! It would pull my fully loaded Phoenix 920 ProXP 5.5 mph vs the Ghost at 3.6 mph… Far as the spot lock,hahahahahahah hand down, feet down, just throw down everything, the Garmin stomps the Ghost and bad.. No comparison at all…. if you want to catch more fish and have a forward facing sonar machine these no comparison.. The Force hand down is the better of the two… Ultrex being the biggest piece of sh++ on the market.. I’d take my old 112 over that junk any day.. tight lines
Seems that there's more reasons not to buy the Force, than reasons TO buy the Force. Buy, all accounts it's the best trolling motor that exists, once all the issues get resolved. Not a good scenario for a $3600 trolling motor. It's amazing how very few affordable options there are for just a solid, durable, easy to use, spot-lock/i-Pilot, trolling motor. I could care less about Livecsope, or any other moot technology that seem to exist for people under the age of 40, who've forgotten what fishing is supposed to be about, in the first place....smh. You find a good spot...then you cast your bait. If a fish doesn't hit "said" bait, then move 10ft....rinse>repeat, and understand that a bad day on the water is still better than a good day at -a Tijuana whore house- work. Now the only concern is "yeah....but, does it have bluetooth?" But, I digress... Minn-Kota for going on 2yrs now, has made certain that the only product available is their most expensive Ultrex, which is being sent out without bluetooth & standard remote (which will "be sent to you once available"). At least in the US, that's what's happening. Power-Pole's $5K Move is supposed to be indestructible (if there is such a thing), and for $5K, it should be. Yet, $5K doesn't sound bad, when you hear about the horror stories these other models seem to be having, at some point, and the amount of time it takes to get a trolling motor fixed (whether it's still under warranty, or not). There don't seem to be any good answers if you just want something simple, durable, and easy to use. Trolling motors have been on the market for going on 40yrs now, and cost more money than the firs (and 2nd) t boat I owned, yet, the issues are an epidemic, right now (seemingly regardless of brand). You can see high-definition pictures of a group of crappie hitting your bait (or not hitting your bait) then play it back for all your friends to see at home on your flat-screen. You just aren't guarantee'd the f**king steering pedal will work when you go to steer it, or that the "bluetooth" (that the entire setup depends on) will connect when you turn the thing on What a mess this industry is in right now... I'm done whining... Not complaining at you, BTH, just dumbfounded at how bad this industry has gotten, solely due to their hasty product role outs, and -co-dependence- complete dependence on the slave-labor of indo-Chinese countries. Hitting the like, and subscribe, buttons because of the trouble you went through to bring us this info. Thank you for that.
@@jasonstokley7274 After a lot of research, I come to agree 100%. Although, honestly, it’s not the money. It’s getting something that will do what it’s supposed to do, and be reliable. But, you’re right, that Terrova is probably what I’m going to wind up with.
Hello, Byron, I’ve just been lucky enough to discover your channel, when looking for Hobie info. You’re really relevant to my fishing pursuits because:
1) you’re in Australia
2) your logical, no-nonsense approach to both information sharing, and product choice & review, gives me a sense of familiarity with you straight away.
3) you list both pros and cons equally, not glossing over any points.
Well-shot production, clean edits, quality a/v gear, all adds up to a product that’s enjoyable to watch, informative, cost, fit and availability- relevant.
Well done to you & your crew.👍👍
Mate thanks very much buddy, a lot of info there and I appreciate you taking the time dude
Great insight Byron!
Aparently the Brushless sound reduction diminishes 16:30 as the Motor ages.
Would have really like to see the Ultrex included, to make it a full review on the best available.
Great point!
I have an ultrex..... and are around them a lot with at least 30 tournament friends that run ultrex.... even though they are reliable they are extremely noisy both the motor and the head turning motor.
I'm selling my Garmin for the New Quest...that should tell you a little something..I was that impressed with it..
I wasn't all that impressed with the Garmin..
I have the Ghost and I agree with everything said. It makes a bit of noise, but the foot pedal is smooth.
I’ve had the Garmin about a year and love it. It pushes my boat well at 24v. Only issue I’ve had with it is when a tree fell on the shaft during a storm . It’s a tough little beast. While I was expecting catastrophic damage, it only cracked the shaft and the shock damaged the control board (controller did not take a direct strike). Hell I think the tree would have done more damage to the boat itself than it did the motor if the motor wasn’t there 😂. Anyways I bought a new shaft, and Garmin replaced the board under warranty. Both were easily fixed in a couple hours, and it performs perfectly again.
I've been looking for a recent video of the Garmin, so I appreciate this post. I've got a chance to save over $2K on some Echomap sonar's on sale at Bass Pro in the U.S., but I'm really on edge about the Force. Lot of issues floating around with the Force, with the consensus being "It's the best trolling motor on the market, once the issues get fixed". And, most of those reviews were 1-2yrs ago, minimum. Although, this is the first review I've heard talking about a poor/cheap foot-pedal design with the Garmin, or bad customer service from Garmin. Garmin US has been very responsive, by all accounts I've seen. So, this is somewhat surprising. Doesn't seem to be any good answers, at this point, short of the best price available (which in my case, at the moment, is the Force). What a mess...and Minn-Kota's supply chain only makes the Ultrex available (without the normal remote, or bluetooth, which they'll send once they become available)....how convenient for Minn-Kota. What a mess. Makes me want to throw my hands up for a ridiculously overpriced Power-Pole Move, which is supposed to be indestructible.
Great vid Byron. I think you were really fair to both units. I can't wait to see you producing content in the US!!!
Me neither dude! I can’t wait hey
Thanks for the excellent, honest feedback Byron! great review
Glad it was helpful!
Great video, certainly advantages of brushless over the old school minnkota, any word on the minnkota going brushless? I often wonder why these manufacturers don't do a polarity swap button, save spinning the head 180 degrees to move back out after retrieving a lure from a bank or obstacle. Pain in the neck going in, focusing on the job of not breaking a rod tip and removing trebles, then to have to spin the head around and try and manoeuvre back again. Be an easy mod, solenoid flips the +/-.
yeah good idea!! curious.
I suspect minnkota are working hard on a brushless and may even have a demo or three out there at the moment.
I would take a quiet motor with a touchy pedal over a noisy motor with a nice pedal any day of the week.
Another great review mate , interesting too see what arrives in the next 2 years and improvements too some of these existing units, it seems every brand does soo well and just miss the mark by 2% on something that has you scratching your head 😅 can't wait for more reviews
Absolutely, looking forward to another 2 brands hitting the brushless space
Why has no one mentioned the t-shirt 😂. Awesome. BTH merch? Great review mate informative as usual
hahahaha, just something the wife got done. But nah no merch thats just another project I dont have time for!!!
Minn kota is still the king of trolling motors. They have been doing it for 85 years. Lets see in 5 years how these motors have held up. Both of these are their companies first jump into making motors, and we all know how that goes.
Great review mate. Would any joe blow get the fly in rep service seriously you know that truthful answer.
I’d love a Ghost but a smaller boat security reasons at home to remove each trip. The Min Kota if you choose is a great motor with plenty of great features. Hand control, foot and phone controls Bluetooth if all fails.
Have a safe trip O/S and hope to to see more content.
mate I’m really glad you got some info out of it.
itching at the bit to fish in the US
Will be interested to see your experiences and thoughts when you get around to Humminbird and Minn Kota. Great review as always. Given you have now run both Garmin and Lowrance sounders - any real stand-out or preferences purely from a sounder perspective?
Love the videos Byron keep up the great work ! Looking to purchase electric motor soon for the vessel, Thanks for the insight on them !
Glad to help legend. Thanks for the first comment!!!!
Great vid as always mate. Would Garmin go to the extent they have of sending a rep if it wasn't for you? I think they may have realised you have a large reach on the socials and a large influence in sales so went the extra mile. Pretty poor to leave you and the marine dealer high and dry to begin with 🤷🏽♂️
Great information throughout the vid mate and if I do switch to a boat I'll take the tips on board.
Possible dude, I’d say either way it’s a solid piece of service on their behalf. When are you buying your boat?
@@ByronTeaHill it's just a dream at the moment dude and won't be anything fancy but hopefully in the next couple of years
Second this point. Flying a guy in to personally fix a issue is - let’s be honest - the best service ever in the history of boating, or at least highly unusual.
Have to think there is some sort of ‘we need to sort this one guy out asap’ type stuff. Even so, respect to them for actually doing it. Credit where it is due.
Great vid Again BTH, onwards and upwards.
With the garmin pedal, there is an adjustment screw which adjusts the pressure u were describing. I found it by accident, cause i hated it like u did, till i found that screw.
mate you are correct, I thought I put a graphic up saying there was an adjustment screw. maybe it didn’t work. you’re right though, did play around with it
@@ByronTeaHill Heh, all good dude!. I found it, and adjusted the pedal on the water. Now its mint (For me).
Cracking vid as always mate 👌
You’re the star mate 😜
Hi Byron, Thanks for the good feedback on these contenders. Just a note on Minn Kota, I have a Riptide 55lb iPilot. I estimate about
You can purchase all those parts relatively cheap. I just did brushes and a new armature and all seals on my minn kota for $70. I think the housing was $30. 307 fish is a good source for all the parts, cheap and easy to work on.
I caught a couple of pound striped bass on this lure the first time I used it.
I’m really disappointed that neither of these units have remote trim. I fish in shallow water with oyster bars and irregular rocks. Can’t really get by without being able to adjust the trim remotely.
Awesome vid! Always love your content if i am ever considering buying a product i look and see if you have reviewed it 😂keep up the awesome work 🔥🔥
Jaspa you legend! I’ve been watching you on Insta, thanks for being part of the community mate
@@ByronTeaHill thanks heaps it means a lot to me 🙏
Dd26 sells an aluminum skeg for the garmin..mine did same thing from the cover..
Can you hold speed in km/h or mph with the Lowrance Ghost? Not just the power setting, but actually holding a speed like you can do with a Minn Kota iPilot remote.
Awesome video mate.
Thank you
My pleasure!
What is the top speed of each motor and which one lasts longer before draining the batteries?
Hey mate, just want to confirm that the Lowrance ghost is able to go in saltwater? Everything I’ve read says that it is only warranted for freshwater and it cannot go in brackish or salt water. I’m looking to get one, but I predominantly fish saltwater estuaries.
Well i thought i was the only one to steer the force by hand lol. 😂
Or for the same price you can get the brushed minn kota, it will have less power, less range, and it'll take a crap on you next year.... minn kota should be charged criminally for that decision. Their motor tech is far older than the Flintstones
You can adjust the Garmin foot pedal I think there is a screw under the foot
You sure can :) made no difference
Great video
You guys shouldn't have given up your guns.
the lure got stuck on the sleeve lol
did you know that there is a tension adjustment on the Garmin foot pedal. You can have the pedal move as easy or stiff as you want.
Yes Kevin. The adjustments were made buddy
A huge shame Garmin and Lowrance are only focussed on the 'bass boat' market for motors, neither are built for saltwater due to shaft length. Minn Kota motors are good, though overpriced for a brushed motor, but the Humminbird performance is terrible compared to Garmin and Lowrance sounders, especially live view, so pairing MK with a sounder is far less than optimal.
Hey legend,
So the models I have were the short shaft length but they do come in longer versions. I guess it depends on your boat right! I am keen to get into it, but I understand the Birds actually present a clearer image than Garmin and Lowrance but like I said, I need to try it out! 🤣
@@ByronTeaHill Yeah, but Ghost maxes out at 60", Force at 57". Birds are indeed megahertz, which helps with sidescan, but their processing algorithms are way behind Garmin (also Megahertz) and Lowrance. Also Helix is not touchscreen, unlike comparable models from Garmin/Lowrance, so you need to go to Solix which is considerably more expensive than Garmin Ultra and Lowrance HDS Live yet performs worse on most metrics. But the real problem with Humminbird is that Mega Live is total crap compare to Lowrance Active Target, and Garmin is leaps ahead again with their new LVS34 Livescope and their extended range LVS62.
Great reviews, keep it up.
Man love the knowledge, I understand a few of the decisions like no touchscreen are done on purpose. Yeah keen to experience the Humminbird products, cheers legend.
You can always retrofit whatever tranducer you want onto the minnkota
@@jasonstokley7274 Transducer is not relevant, the chartplotter is what talks to the motor for functions like follow contours etc, and only Humminbirds talk to MK, Garmin only talks to Force, Lowrance only talks to Ghost/Motorguide. I've always been a bit baffled why anyone would fit a transducer to a pseudo randomly rotating motor unless you never fish with spot lock.
All of my equipment is Lowrance, except the trolling motor. I cannot handle the whining noise of the ghost.
Did anyone win on the last giveaway Byron?
People win in every giveaway legend. All the announcements go in the members
Area
Brushes are cheap & easy to fix, does anybody know what happens when brushless motors malfunction ?
tell us Craig :), Brushless = quiet and lithium compatible if i understand correctly.
@@ByronTeaHill Hi Byron, i have no idea how brushless actually works. I just bought a Garmin Striker 7 SV sounder, my first but not installed yet. I had read an online article about being compatible with the Garmin trolling motor. Only owned a Minn Kota Riptide for 2 years & i agree i would buy Lithium once my AGM claps out or sooner 120 ah weighs a ton. At 64 this Riptide is hurting me pushing & knee it in the head to deploy & drag the hell out of it to stow the mongrel. I need an easier life of fishing & that Garmin motor looks the goods. Was just wondering about the pitfalls of brushless down the track. Thanks for the reviews you do to inform us, cheers.
Brushless is the only way to go!! I am a long time cabinet maker and the truth is battery life with brushless is twice as long as the old school brushless!!
There needs to be more just straight fishing in your boat with your son.
pls that would be great
copy!
Why is there no review of GPS Anchoring?? Disappointed!
Hey bud, sorry to dissapoint. theres no review because GPS anchoring is mint on both. I guess its because its now 2023 you'd expect it to not be a problem
garmin is new to trolling motors
like 5 years ago...
Hahahahahahahah Lowrance costumer service vs Garmin customer service here in the states 😮💨 Garmin is light years better.. I mean Power-Pole comparable.. Power-Pole along with Chik-fil-a having the best costumer service in the WORLD.. I fish full time and currently run a ghost and have for the last 3 years.. TUFF AS NAILS!! Period!! Loud as a sum b**ch tho.. Blades break easy so have a spare.. Another thing about the ghost is if your a live scope guy the magnetic arrow on top is very very inconsistent finding your bait, so get ready for that aggravation.. Better at least have the 34 Garmin transducer.. Don’t even consider the active target.. I’ve literally gone threw 4 black box’s because they get sooooo hot you could almost light a cigarette off it.. Couple weeks and it’s fried.. Oh, did I mention the ghost would wake the dead far as noise… Recently I’ve made the change to the force.. Automatically, I mean in a instinct I was impressed with basically NO noise and the power vs the ghost it had!! WOW!! It would pull my fully loaded Phoenix 920 ProXP 5.5 mph vs the Ghost at 3.6 mph… Far as the spot lock,hahahahahahah hand down, feet down, just throw down everything, the Garmin stomps the Ghost and bad.. No comparison at all…. if you want to catch more fish and have a forward facing sonar machine these no comparison.. The Force hand down is the better of the two… Ultrex being the biggest piece of sh++ on the market.. I’d take my old 112 over that junk any day.. tight lines
Seems that there's more reasons not to buy the Force, than reasons TO buy the Force. Buy, all accounts it's the best trolling motor that exists, once all the issues get resolved. Not a good scenario for a $3600 trolling motor. It's amazing how very few affordable options there are for just a solid, durable, easy to use, spot-lock/i-Pilot, trolling motor. I could care less about Livecsope, or any other moot technology that seem to exist for people under the age of 40, who've forgotten what fishing is supposed to be about, in the first place....smh. You find a good spot...then you cast your bait. If a fish doesn't hit "said" bait, then move 10ft....rinse>repeat, and understand that a bad day on the water is still better than a good day at -a Tijuana whore house- work. Now the only concern is "yeah....but, does it have bluetooth?" But, I digress... Minn-Kota for going on 2yrs now, has made certain that the only product available is their most expensive Ultrex, which is being sent out without bluetooth & standard remote (which will "be sent to you once available"). At least in the US, that's what's happening. Power-Pole's $5K Move is supposed to be indestructible (if there is such a thing), and for $5K, it should be. Yet, $5K doesn't sound bad, when you hear about the horror stories these other models seem to be having, at some point, and the amount of time it takes to get a trolling motor fixed (whether it's still under warranty, or not). There don't seem to be any good answers if you just want something simple, durable, and easy to use. Trolling motors have been on the market for going on 40yrs now, and cost more money than the firs (and 2nd) t boat I owned, yet, the issues are an epidemic, right now (seemingly regardless of brand). You can see high-definition pictures of a group of crappie hitting your bait (or not hitting your bait) then play it back for all your friends to see at home on your flat-screen. You just aren't guarantee'd the f**king steering pedal will work when you go to steer it, or that the "bluetooth" (that the entire setup depends on) will connect when you turn the thing on What a mess this industry is in right now... I'm done whining... Not complaining at you, BTH, just dumbfounded at how bad this industry has gotten, solely due to their hasty product role outs, and -co-dependence- complete dependence on the slave-labor of indo-Chinese countries. Hitting the like, and subscribe, buttons because of the trouble you went through to bring us this info. Thank you for that.
For 2k you can get a minnkota terrova and do anything that either of these will do.
@@jasonstokley7274 After a lot of research, I come to agree 100%. Although, honestly, it’s not the money. It’s getting something that will do what it’s supposed to do, and be reliable. But, you’re right, that Terrova is probably what I’m going to wind up with.