I did ❤. Funnily enough I’ve just bought a marshalltown 4 inch width made of spring stainless steel finishing trowel. Not heard of spring steel before (it’s the steel they use to make springs in shock absorbers). I’d love to know what you think of them.
Mate this is where all these flexi trowels are going wrong it's not so much the blade it's the handle that needs to flex 😂😂😂😂 wasn't expecting that though lol great video 💯👌
You'd get a better finish with an old piece of stick than I could with the best trowel in the world. My Dad used to say "a poor workman blames his tools". Great to watch a skilled tradesman at work and enjoy your videos - thank you!
After watching a few plastering videos I was starting a DIY project. I went out and bought the best I could afford - a marshalltown 16” thinking this would get me great results. Long story short it was too big for my weak arms and I sold it 2 years later for more than I paid 😂 I have a 13” OX now which is better for me
Thing is, regardless if the trowel is cheap or expensive, it is how experienced someone is. You can give an expensive trowel to and amateur or someone who lacks skill, and give a cheap one to someone who has passion and talent, and the results will speak for themselves. Remember, expensive trowels weren't around when they built some of the most sophisticated buildings thousands of years ago, so all this branded stuff is basically marketing. Sure we have evolved with gimmicks and tools but the fact remains, if someone has the capacity and desire to do a good job then they'll do it with a butter knife if they had to.
Good video. But as a tip to all you budding skimmers out there. I had my first Reno to do, had a m8 who is a plasterer help me for 4 ceilings and take me thru the motions. I bought an Ox pro 16in trowel and an 18" ox pro flex. a plastic speedskim and stainless speedskim. Had a different m8, who is a very good plasterer come round and he looked at the 20+ walls i did and said i saved myself at least 10k and job was comparable to a 'decent' plasterer. The tools were like 300. Get good tools
Hi Kirk, hope all is well and good mate I’ll get that from useing a marshal town,,,,,,,,, very good video keep them comeing buddy as helps me get through my treatment watching them, thanks again Kirk. Woody
Brilliant video mate I'd like to see another video like this but if you can, don't wear it in. For some people who want to try plastering they may have to use it as it comes. Definitely not at a customers house but maybe build a false wall and put on some boards in the shed? Even if it's difficult to get a good finish it would be interesting to watch! 👍
Ha ha ha what a video Kirk has found he's forever trowel he will never pick up a marshall town again. Funny enough you got a decent finish though but I think it was the bloke behind the trowel more than the trowel itself. 😂
I got a similar looking trowel from THE RANGE store years ago for £2 It is one of the best trowels I have - its super light & once broke in was great for ceilings when your arms are tired only fauly is its carbon steel so have to oil it up all the time Best £2 i ever spent 😆
Just a tip for you. Many people will go straight to the description looking for a link to that trowel, and you can put an Amazon affiliate link in the which will give you a little money for every time someone buys the trowel from your link. That's what most guys showing products are doing, and people just expect it
Hilarious..🤣🤣..brilliant, loved it 🙌 Speaks for itself, it’s only as good as the person using it..!! I was actually thinking you had been abducted 🤣🤣..good see you back. And not forgot about computer build..will be seeing him weekend. 👍🏻😁
looks ok,a good tradesman will be able to use it ,a bit like the original ragni lol ,nice one kirk,please give it another try out ...skim a 10m2 ceiling mate.
I used an 11” £5 wickes trowel for years and years , , Marshal towns permashapes were a new concept then, ragni, tyzac whatever you got , they all needed bedding in , I only changed to mt when bonding and then hardwall came up more and they eat in to them carbons like mad if you leave it set and got sick of washing the saviour wd40 off . I got some Nela’s nowadays they are good nicer grip then Refina’s . Agreed this with modern ones a super flex or so a newbie can make a good go at from the offset if they can manage to get it on the wall, I used to 1200 mine every weekend I do not miss those days 😂😂
I've got a cheap and nasty trowel much like that one. The handle snapped eventually. My plastering is bad (much like the wobbly job you were covering up) but nice to hear that I can at least partly blame the tools. It would have been good to have a bit more detail on the mechanics of the edge bevelling and what it is about a better trowel that makes it work better.
When I was on the tools , in order of preference, Disston , Tyzak then Marshalltown, use it as your second trowel and use on sand and cement, until broken in. And they used to come in their own box 😂
Nice one Kirk but you've just broke the old saying "a work man is only as good as his tools" your skill & experience just blew that saying out of the water 🤣🤣
I bought two Marshall town qlt from toolstation a few weeks ago mate and sharpend them up with a stone. There mint now an only cost £13 and £15. Bargain. Great vids mate
Love this video matey . just wanted to no why u was feathering it in 6” from floor.? can get amazing finishes with a flooring trowel tilers trowel even a bricklayer trowel with a spot welded bar across to handle . All flex plastics speeds ect have there place to pull the pennys in faster . but let’s see who can make the flattest wall using anything but ya everyday plastering trowels . would be a good Competition to see wot u can make work and make a flat wall using anything but our daily Weapons would be a good show love the work fella keep it up god bless
My first attempt plastering was with a B&Q £10 trowel, managed to get the plaster on the wall ok but couldnt do any kind of presentable finish. Spoke to a plasterer about it and he said he wouldnt even use it to clean his tools.
Great vid. Enjoyed it. Are you gonna raffle it off lol! Btw what should you look for in a Darby. I bought a magnusson one from screwfix and the edge is blunt not like a trowel at all. Is this normal? Cheers Kirk.
I’m a slater to trade so learned how to use hawk n trowel doing rough casting I’ve worked with plasterer’s done a bit plastering always use the marshalltown for plastering with speed skim and big flex trowel I can plaster and leave a good job but compared to a plasterer I’m a amateur done plastering maybe once a year 😂 1 my old tradesman when was a 2nd year apprentice was a plasterer old guy would come in at 8 in the morning drunk carrying bag a cans I’d get him weed at lunchtime old guy could hardly speak and could leave a good job with 1 they cheap trowels
@@Onthetrowelweirdly my old man grew up in Ellesmere Port and sounds nothing like you 😂 keep up the great work 👍🏻 edit: just realised it’s also in Cheshire 🤦🏻♂️
8 days. I know mate, I'm trying to make the videos more interesting but it just takes me longer. I might start taking a day off in the week just to do the editing
You have probably answered this question a million times, but for a diy inexperienced plaster what trowel would you recommend? Keep looking at a MT 13inch but not sure it’s overkill for me.
Hey up Eric. It's my new go to trowel for big jobs 🤣🤣 Cheers mate. An thanks for the messages the other day pal. Life can get hectic and its nice sometimes when someone takes the time to check in with you. Appreciate you man 🙏👍👍
@@hemtet5500 I spoke to our future AI overlords (chatgpt) and asked about this, apparently the idea is to induce a controlled form of corrosion on the metal in order to prevent further uncontrolled corrosion. The mix of coke and vinegar happens to be acidic and can be used for this purpose, according to the AI various acids can be used to make different looking patinas such as mustard, potato or lemon juice. Seemingly as far back as the bronze age people have noticed patinas and the Romans are known to have artificially induced this process on their statues to protect them.
Isn't sharpening the edges up going against the title of the video? Shouldn't you have used it straight from the box for the benefit of the experiment ? 😂
I understand the difference between a trowl that has been used for 20+ years and a new one. I have my own trowl, but still my dads feels more comfortable, simply because it's been used more, but i know that if i dont use my trowl more than it. defeats my point of having my own trowl. the point is, you each have your own way of working thing out, if you don't realize that y
Only ever use flexi trowel on your last pass as this will glide over all your nice straight even wall/ceiling giving it a nice polish effect like glass anything other than your last pass will cause you problems wen painted
Hi Kirk, great channel. You know the UK imports about 60 Billion quids worth of goods from China each year, the country has huge potential which is good and bad.
It has to be ok for small diy jobs. The one I got from Lidl is even cheaper than yours. Add the price of a bottle of coke and a sheet of sandpaper and I’m quids in.
Your biggest mistake was 'trying' to Break The Trowel IN! .... It's why already 'Broken In' New Marshaltown's are a Con. .... There's nothing wrong with a new trowel if the bend in the blade is the right way - As You Said - Better still 'No Bend' - But forcing a trowel to be broken in is a waste of time - You'd STILL have gotten a decent finish if you hadn't gone through all that rigmarole ... Made a good video though 👍🤠
I did plastering for 20 years and always used marshall Town. My very first trowell was a cheap one from B&Q and my mentor threw it out a window and gave me marshall town trowell 😂😂😂😂 then said if you want to go get a paper round go get that peice of crap out there, but if wanna sucide and be a decent spread at least buy the right gear 😂😂😂😂
Let me know if you like this video 😊👍
I did ❤. Funnily enough I’ve just bought a marshalltown 4 inch width made of spring stainless steel finishing trowel. Not heard of spring steel before (it’s the steel they use to make springs in shock absorbers). I’d love to know what you think of them.
Lovely trowel mate
Mate this is where all these flexi trowels are going wrong it's not so much the blade it's the handle that needs to flex 😂😂😂😂 wasn't expecting that though lol great video 💯👌
The thing is with a towel like that you buy it to do one diy job then it gets thrown its ok but will not last 👍
Maybe next time make a mock stud wall and board it then test it 😂
Its so relaxing watching and listening to Kirk in these videos. Plus he is always positive and in good humour.
Very enlightening, have never realised a trowel needed a sharp cutting edge. Many thanks, Paul
You'd get a better finish with an old piece of stick than I could with the best trowel in the world. My Dad used to say "a poor workman blames his tools". Great to watch a skilled tradesman at work and enjoy your videos - thank you!
Thanks mate, lovely comment
You've just backed up what I've always said. It's not the tools it's the hands that's using them 😂 Nice job Kirk.
After watching a few plastering videos I was starting a DIY project. I went out and bought the best I could afford - a marshalltown 16” thinking this would get me great results. Long story short it was too big for my weak arms and I sold it 2 years later for more than I paid 😂
I have a 13” OX now which is better for me
Love watching your videos.. thank you for sharing all the info !! Much appreciated
😂. Good video. Next video….. left handed day… every thing is done left handed 🙃
Great vid again Kirk, loving the music. I’ve never been so “on edge” keep em coming mate you’re a legend
Great video. You can see how much knowledge you have when you explain things even I can understand, your passion for the art shows! Thanks again
Thing is, regardless if the trowel is cheap or expensive, it is how experienced someone is. You can give an expensive trowel to and amateur or someone who lacks skill, and give a cheap one to someone who has passion and talent, and the results will speak for themselves.
Remember, expensive trowels weren't around when they built some of the most sophisticated buildings thousands of years ago, so all this branded stuff is basically marketing. Sure we have evolved with gimmicks and tools but the fact remains, if someone has the capacity and desire to do a good job then they'll do it with a butter knife if they had to.
Good video. But as a tip to all you budding skimmers out there. I had my first Reno to do, had a m8 who is a plasterer help me for 4 ceilings and take me thru the motions. I bought an Ox pro 16in trowel and an 18" ox pro flex. a plastic speedskim and stainless speedskim. Had a different m8, who is a very good plasterer come round and he looked at the 20+ walls i did and said i saved myself at least 10k and job was comparable to a 'decent' plasterer. The tools were like 300. Get good tools
Ox 😂😂
Great video Kirk. Job well done.
Great video, i really enjoyed that. I'm not a plasterer but i used to work for my dad who's is a general builder who does a lot of plastering.
That’s Kirk’s Xmas present sorted 👍😊
Hi Kirk, hope all is well and good mate I’ll get that from useing a marshal town,,,,,,,,, very good video keep them comeing buddy as helps me get through my treatment watching them, thanks again Kirk. Woody
Hope they are going easy on you mate. Stay strong pal 👊👌
Kirk, your definitely someone I could go to the pub with and have a pint
Awesome vid, you should do an OX vs Marshalltown comparison
Brilliant video mate
I'd like to see another video like this but if you can, don't wear it in. For some people who want to try plastering they may have to use it as it comes. Definitely not at a customers house but maybe build a false wall and put on some boards in the shed? Even if it's difficult to get a good finish it would be interesting to watch! 👍
Ha ha ha what a video Kirk has found he's forever trowel he will never pick up a marshall town again. Funny enough you got a decent finish though but I think it was the bloke behind the trowel more than the trowel itself. 😂
Ha, cheers Jimmy. Its going on the wall in the workshop office tomorrow
Yeah you have to keep it. It does look nice with the colour
Great video👍🏻 I hope you’ve left an honest review on Amazon and a link to this video 😂
I got a similar looking trowel from THE RANGE store years ago for £2
It is one of the best trowels I have - its super light & once broke in was great for ceilings when your arms are tired
only fauly is its carbon steel so have to oil it up all the time
Best £2 i ever spent 😆
Well done Kirk; I reckon the coke and a flap disc cost as much as the trowel, its all Good fun
Love the edits 😂😂😂 videos are always quality and thought out 👏👏👏🤝
To be fair, I've got several Bluespot ratchets that get used daily for work and they're still performing perfectly after 10 years.
Just a tip for you. Many people will go straight to the description looking for a link to that trowel, and you can put an Amazon affiliate link in the which will give you a little money for every time someone buys the trowel from your link.
That's what most guys showing products are doing, and people just expect it
Hilarious..🤣🤣..brilliant, loved it 🙌
Speaks for itself, it’s only as good as the person using it..!! I was actually thinking you had been abducted 🤣🤣..good see you back. And not forgot about computer build..will be seeing him weekend. 👍🏻😁
Thank you my mate
I really thought that you were about to throw it out of the window at one point 😂 well done mate for remembering what your Dad told you
Great idea mate 👍
youre class mate keep it up i want to learn to plaster starting in mine
It's a great trowel that .
For scraping floors 😂😂
looks ok,a good tradesman will be able to use it ,a bit like the original ragni lol ,nice one kirk,please give it another try out ...skim a 10m2 ceiling mate.
Your vids are great mate!
I used an 11” £5 wickes trowel for years and years , ,
Marshal towns permashapes were a new concept then, ragni, tyzac whatever you got , they all needed bedding in , I only changed to mt when bonding and then hardwall came up more and they eat in to them carbons like mad if you leave it set and got sick of washing the saviour wd40 off . I got some Nela’s nowadays they are good nicer grip then Refina’s . Agreed this with modern ones a super flex or so a newbie can make a good go at from the offset if they can manage to get it on the wall, I used to 1200 mine every weekend I do not miss those days 😂😂
I've got a cheap and nasty trowel much like that one. The handle snapped eventually. My plastering is bad (much like the wobbly job you were covering up) but nice to hear that I can at least partly blame the tools. It would have been good to have a bit more detail on the mechanics of the edge bevelling and what it is about a better trowel that makes it work better.
Hi Kirk, Did you ever think about designing your own plastering trowels, handles etc.....
I'd love to but I don't know who to speak to about it
If you polish it with an orbital sander, you get an effect that's a lot more similar to normal wear.
Just a silly question why are do all mid range and above trowels not have a standard sharpness added as std
My ol man a builder for 60 years always told me “You’ll only as good as your tools”
my first trowel was a ragni stainless 11 inch ,i still use it ,its bloody sharp now
Great fun!
When I was on the tools , in order of preference, Disston , Tyzak then Marshalltown, use it as your second trowel and use on sand and cement, until broken in.
And they used to come in their own box 😂
How's it going kirk mate, can I skim onto ceramic tiles or will I need to put on a skim of hardwall with pva first, thanks mate, LEGEND 🤓👍
Nice one Kirk but you've just broke the old saying "a work man is only as good as his tools" your skill & experience just blew that saying out of the water 🤣🤣
@onthetrowel - You've probably just caused Amazon to sell out of this trowel 🤣🤣🤣
Try a nela trowel im a drywall taper and do some plaster repairs just small ones tho i cant go back to Marshalltown after using the Nela Trowel.
Nice one 👍
I've no idea what your doing 😅 but find it quite relaxing 👍
😂 👍🏻
Does soaking your carbon trowel prevent the rust?
Tbh I don’t even care about plastering but you make it interesting and your dry humour makes it enjoyable. Natural behind the camera ✌🏻
I bought two Marshall town qlt from toolstation a few weeks ago mate and sharpend them up with a stone. There mint now an only cost £13 and £15. Bargain. Great vids mate
what does the qlt mean , are they just normal trowels ? because they say concrete trowels ?
Love this video matey . just wanted to no why u was feathering it in 6” from floor.? can get amazing finishes with a flooring trowel tilers trowel even a bricklayer trowel with a spot welded bar across to handle . All flex plastics speeds ect have there place to pull the pennys in faster . but let’s see who can make the flattest wall using anything but ya everyday plastering trowels . would be a good Competition to see wot u can make work and make a flat wall using anything but our daily Weapons would be a good show love the work fella keep it up god bless
My first attempt plastering was with a B&Q £10 trowel, managed to get the plaster on the wall ok but couldnt do any kind of presentable finish. Spoke to a plasterer about it and he said he wouldnt even use it to clean his tools.
Great vid. Enjoyed it. Are you gonna raffle it off lol! Btw what should you look for in a Darby. I bought a magnusson one from screwfix and the edge is blunt not like a trowel at all. Is this normal? Cheers Kirk.
Yes mate that's fine, darby is just for straightening the plaster not finishing it. 👌
@@Onthetrowel oh gr8 cheers Kirk M8 thanks for getting back to me. Your a legend.
The ugly duckling turned into a Swan.....😄😃😀🇦🇺
I’m a slater to trade so learned how to use hawk n trowel doing rough casting I’ve worked with plasterer’s done a bit plastering always use the marshalltown for plastering with speed skim and big flex trowel I can plaster and leave a good job but compared to a plasterer I’m a amateur done plastering maybe once a year 😂
1 my old tradesman when was a 2nd year apprentice was a plasterer old guy would come in at 8 in the morning drunk carrying bag a cans I’d get him weed at lunchtime old guy could hardly speak and could leave a good job with 1 they cheap trowels
is there a cheapish trowel you recommend that a beginner can use ?
Good video Kirk. Why didn’t you go all the way down to the bottom and instead chose to blend?
Just wanted to see if it would be possible to blend in with it as I usually struggle with a brand new trowel
@@Onthetrowel yeh I know now. I ended up watching the video to the end.
Do you do anything with your normal trowels when you first get them?
I had this tool. The handle snapped off mid use 😂. I was using it to level off a concrete foundation, applying next to no force.
What part of Merseyside you from mate, had a teacher sounded exactly like you many years back proper spitting image 👍🏻
Ellesmere port mate
@@Onthetrowelweirdly my old man grew up in Ellesmere Port and sounds nothing like you 😂 keep up the great work 👍🏻 edit: just realised it’s also in Cheshire 🤦🏻♂️
Feel like it’s been a while. Great content as always 👍🏽👌🏽
8 days. I know mate, I'm trying to make the videos more interesting but it just takes me longer. I might start taking a day off in the week just to do the editing
I get it. Makes sense. Looking forward to the next!
Still better than me doing it with best trowel 😂😂
What do they say about blaming the tools? 😁 If you are struggling with it, anyone else has got no chance
You have probably answered this question a million times, but for a diy inexperienced plaster what trowel would you recommend? Keep looking at a MT 13inch but not sure it’s overkill for me.
Go 14 inch MT stainless
Old trowls are the best..they curl and form to youre hand
kirk what's best trowel to use s.steal or carbon u seem to like the carbon ones
Either, I will use both, I just swap it up to keep it interesting
Doesn't matter what kind of hand tools you have for any trade it's all in how about how each individual uses them.
Have that exact trowel, I use it for external beading. That's about all it's good for 🤣
You gonna be using that from now on then mate?😂😂 Great vid👍
Hey up Eric. It's my new go to trowel for big jobs 🤣🤣
Cheers mate.
An thanks for the messages the other day pal.
Life can get hectic and its nice sometimes when someone takes the time to check in with you. Appreciate you man 🙏👍👍
@@Onthetrowel 😂😂
@@Onthetrowel anytime mate 👍
I've used one of these and it is so uncomfortable to hold, did it wreck the skin on any of your fingers?
Regal Barnes one of the best trowels I have ever used ,to me way better and marshal town and a lot cheaper
That new window is 25mm short in the height. Covered by a trim inside to the head !
A good tradesman never blames his tools, although that trowel is crap after 40 years of plastering I could do a good jpb with that trowel
The coke and vinegar!! What was all that about and why didn’t you explain at length easily the most interesting part of the video!
It just turns the steel black (patina) to stop rust forming.
It's not really necessary but thought it would make the video abit more interesting
@@Onthetrowel it makes it much more interesting what is the origin of this black magic?
@@hemtet5500 I spoke to our future AI overlords (chatgpt) and asked about this, apparently the idea is to induce a controlled form of corrosion on the metal in order to prevent further uncontrolled corrosion. The mix of coke and vinegar happens to be acidic and can be used for this purpose, according to the AI various acids can be used to make different looking patinas such as mustard, potato or lemon juice. Seemingly as far back as the bronze age people have noticed patinas and the Romans are known to have artificially induced this process on their statues to protect them.
Fantastic, thanks for typing all that out mate
Isn't sharpening the edges up going against the title of the video? Shouldn't you have used it straight from the box for the benefit of the experiment ? 😂
I agree should of used it as he bought it
You can't use even the best trowel out the box
I understand the difference between a trowl that has been used for 20+ years and a new one. I have my own trowl, but still my dads feels more comfortable, simply because it's been used more, but i know that if i dont use my trowl more than it. defeats my point of having my own trowl.
the point is, you each have your own way of working thing out, if you don't realize that y
Do u polish up your plaster with flexi trowels or lay on and polish with ya Marshall Town that's for any plasterers who read this thank u
No mate I won't use flexi trowels.
I did a video on them mate
Only ever use flexi trowel on your last pass as this will glide over all your nice straight even wall/ceiling giving it a nice polish effect like glass anything other than your last pass will cause you problems wen painted
Before I've watched, if anyone can you can Kirk.
Now to watch.
Bet going back to your real trowel felt like a dream after using that thing.
I don't understand why you would blend in 6 inches from the bottom of the wall?
To test my skill
Hi Kirk, great channel. You know the UK imports about 60 Billion quids worth of goods from China each year, the country has huge potential which is good and bad.
It has to be ok for small diy jobs. The one I got from Lidl is even cheaper than yours. Add the price of a bottle of coke and a sheet of sandpaper and I’m quids in.
Whats point of blending in 10 inch from floor?
To see if it's possible, did you understand what the video was about mate?
Why don't manufacturers "pre-wear in" trowels?
No idea
😁@@Onthetrowel
Your biggest mistake was 'trying' to Break The Trowel IN! .... It's why already 'Broken In' New Marshaltown's are a Con. .... There's nothing wrong with a new trowel if the bend in the blade is the right way - As You Said - Better still 'No Bend' - But forcing a trowel to be broken in is a waste of time - You'd STILL have gotten a decent finish if you hadn't gone through all that rigmarole ... Made a good video though 👍🤠
Dabbing trowels only them 😂
It got rave reviews, 4.4 stars out of 5. Who needs a Marshalltown?!
I did plastering for 20 years and always used marshall Town. My very first trowell was a cheap one from B&Q and my mentor threw it out a window and gave me marshall town trowell 😂😂😂😂 then said if you want to go get a paper round go get that peice of crap out there, but if wanna sucide and be a decent spread at least buy the right gear 😂😂😂😂
Plasterer here this is absolute bollocks .bad tradesman and all that
What are you struggling with pal?
Why didn't you skim to the bottom of the wall surely it would be easier than blending it in
That was the point mate, I really wanted to see if I could get the trowel to perform
Really should be wearing eye protection when grinding metal.
what would have been nice is to see an expensive trowel put through the exact same process and how it does.
Get the Marshall Town out 😅😅
Can buy a Marshalltown £25 Vauxhall Market…..Nine Elms Wandsworth Rd’ London every tool in the building trade every Sunday..
so saying its terrible... why? why does it do or not do that your 70 quid one does different? to explain to us newbies
Should have searched amazon before spending 75 quid on my knew trowel
This bloke could plaster with a spoon and still get it flat.
Bouncy handle is for anti shock lol
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