I see many people enraptured by the rarity of a pigment - regardless of what they'll do with it (or more importantly, what they can do with it!). Sometimes if feels like the watercolour world is turning into a fashion like industry, with must-have brushes, must-have palettes and accessories...
Same... it's like that for many of these ... blame the industry for sending free stuff to tons of youtubers like FrugalLindsey ... who get the free stuff and then make videos for their millions of subbers who are addicted to buying stuff they don't use most of!
@@pesto12601 In the end, right now I'm using at least three art supplies I've discovered mostly through TH-cam (including Lindsey), and that I really like. Inexpensive, good quality and versatile. And I'm grateful Teoh reviewed this pigment, it is an interesting story. He says it himself, he doesn't think it's an irreplaceable pigment. Yet some in the replies find it irresistible. My comment had more to do with what companies put on the market, not TH-camrs reviewing products.
@@tv-bb6vg Yeah.. well - companies like this one are tiny.. so they can try and push this stuff out there and if folks buy it for outrageous prices - good for them. I just laugh when I see 5 or 6 youtube channel folks all "review" the same product within days of each other... the marketing at the art companies in overdrive to send out these free supplies for publicity... and then folks just buy them. I haven't bought a new supply in the past 2 years... and happily have been learning to use what I have... it is a blessing for sure!!
Absolutely, art supplies, and watercolors in particular, have turned into a fashion thing, with people buying supplies just to be able to say that they have them. This obsession with brands, with particular sets, with lightfastness even when one is only a hobbyist, insisting on artist grade products for the use in coloring books or for painting along to tutorials - I have only seen this in the last few years. I remember when doing art mostly meant that you have your supplies by whatever brand it is that is being sold where you live, and then you work with those. And if you notice that you are needing something in specific, then you'll go and buy that. This also eventually resulted in having art supply collections, but very different ones, as they were functional collections, not collections for show purposes of which most pieces will not truly be used. Now I have to admit that since the pandemic started, I have also fallen into this buying trap, HEAVILY. After several decades of being happy having just what I need to work, I also started wanting this and that and everything - A direct result of having all this time and watching a ton of art videos on here. But it's neither really satisfying, nor does it, in any way, make me more creative or better at what I do. Actually the opposite is the case, and I have started to feel overwhelmed many times. The best way to work really is to use what one has, and to limit new additions to what one actually needs.
One important thing to keep in mind if you're going to get a pan of YInMn blue is that it will eventually harden up to the point where you can barely get any color on it. Oto Kano has done a review on Kremer's YInMin and her pan was almost unusable after about 4 months. So if you buy it, don't treat it like gold and make sure to use it up! :)
@@hansendesigns Same here! I tend to hoard my more expensive supplies, so I'm glad I found out since I was given one as a gift. It's a good incentive to use it up and be more free with it though :)
While I agree with the overall sentiment in the comments that this pigment is probably not worth adding to your collection unless one is really in to the novelty of it as a new pigment (at least at it’s current price), I feel like some context regarding this pigment is missing from both the video and the comments. For reference, I’ve been following news regarding this pigment for a few years and my understanding is that the price is expected to drop. Only recently did it start being available for use in commercially produced paints and the current limited supply is driving up the prices. Also, the lab that discovered this pigment did so by accident. The lab was not trying to create a super unique blue pigment. Additionally, this pigment might actually be more valuable in industry than in art because part of what makes it unique is how it reflects and absorbs light outside of the range that human eyes see. I’ll be curious to see more paints with this pigment as it becomes more commercially available and the price drops because the same pigment can look a little different when processed in different ways.
I'm looking at the comments here and I'm laughing in agreement. It's an interesting story and a very nice colour, but as a $60 novelty replacement for Ultramarine or Cobalt? Nah. I'm grateful to early adopters and reviewers like you, for giving us a look, but it'd have to become a lot more mainstream and mass-produced - with the effect that'd have on the price - before I'd think about buying it. Come on, auto industry, get the lead out! Oh, and where can I file a petition to get the name changed to Subramanian Blue? 'YInMn' Blue never sat right with me. Too sterile.
I felt this sticker shock with Daniel Smith Sleeping Beauty Turquoise Genuine. And when I ended up getting a half pan of it, I didn't like it as much as Roman Szmal Cobalt Turquoise. Or even Phthalo Turquoise. Novelty doesn't mean much to me anymore.
YIKES! Way out of my price range. But, oh what beautiful results you got with the colours on your beautiful sketch, Teoh! It always amazes me how you can mix paint right on the page like that! Thank you for showing us and I do believe I need to add Cobalt Blue Deep to my palette.
I think the story of this is super interesting, the fact that it's an inorganic blue that's been discovered by a scientist, whoa! But I think since the colour is so similar to colours that are cheaper, it's hard to justify having this blue unless you are just fascinated by pigments. The only reason I can imagine that you'd want an inorganic blue is to avoid heavy metal pigments like cobalt. But I think manganese oxide is still toxic (not sure, I know some manganese pigments are), so who knows! Exciting, though!
If things were reversed and he discovered Ultramarine Blue, the deepest, most vibrant true blue in existence and all we had was Ynmin Blue, I'd say it's worth it. But that's not the case, and not only do we have Ultramarine Blue for super cheap (it used to be more than gold!) we also have cobalt pigments that match its hue and granulation and exceed its saturation and depth. And Ultramarine and cobalt blues are lightfast, so it's not like that's a concern either. Ynmin blue really doesn't have a reason to exist.
@@LeesChannel I don't know. While I agree with you, I would have specified that Yinmin doesn't really have a reason to exist as commercially available paint right now. However, the discovery of the pigment is (aside from exciting) an open door for other possibilities. That is pretty cool and I am very happy it exists. Even if for us right now it is concretely nothing more than a super expensive novelty or status item.
No paint is really toxic. Well except lead paint. But others aren't. The toxicity comes in making it. The chemicals that go airborne not the paint itself. Take cadmium paints for example. A 2 year old would have to eat 10 thousand tubes in one sitting to even reach toxic levels. The liver produces enzymes to filter these things from our body. To be quite honest about it, all this toxic stuff is just marketing.
@@phillipstroll7385 Okay buddy, let's see you eat 10 tubes of cadmium paint a day for 10 consecutive days and document it on video. That's only 1 100th of what you said would be harmful to a 2 year old, spread over 10 times as many days, should be no problem right? Feel free to substitute for mercury-based Vermillion or arsenic based Emerald Green, I'm sure your enzymes will protect you, it's all just marketing. Hey, I hear a scientist say that Roundup was no more harmful than a glass of water, why not wash down those tubes of paint with a tumbler of Roundup to really put all these toxicity myths to rest?
@@LeesChannel you don't have to see it numb nut. It's called math and science. I guess you went to school in Oregon huh. No one actually had to eat paint to know what levels are in them or how many it'll take before the live can no longer detoxify. Also, the whole point was a toddler couldn't eat that much paint. No one could. The binders would make a person blow chunks before they could ever ingest that much. But ya know, hey, what's math good for anyway right..
Thanks for the demonstration of this pigment. I’ve been curious, but since it doesn’t appear to be significantly better or brighter than cobalt blue, I think I’ll stick with my current palette.
I just got the A. Gallo signature 24 set and this was part of that set. The pricing for the set was in line with the pricing of all the other sets and not bumped up on account of this color being included. If the price of the set were different because of this half pan I probably would have passed, as getting it doesn't really mean much to me. I've only gotten to swatch the set so far but my impression when I did was seems nice but not so different and my skill level wouldn't make brilliant use out of it.
I wish the same could be said for the (edit: Kremer, for clarity) palette of blues. It is absurdly overpriced to compensate for this one pigment's inclusion.
For now, if the price doesn't lower down yet, it can be made into a hue by mixing it with Cobalt Blue and Ultramarine. Personally, I'm sticking into non-granulating blues save for Cobalt Blue or Ultramarine.
I've heard about this new pigment and was curious about it. I'm glad to see it in action. It is a beautiful color. I'm glad to see that it mixes well with other pigments and gets predictable results. I'm glad to learn of places that carry it as well. Thank you for your timely review!
What a beautiful painter you are. I really love the colors you mix and the choices with how things stand out with the colors you use like the tree. I love the tree. And the building looks great with the blue and the red. Very very nice painting. I love it! The color separation of the red and blue within the paper on the building looks awesome and I absolutely love the color the tower turned out to be. You have an eye for such wonderful color mixing. I enjoy watching you paint so much! I will have to simply watch you paint with paints I could never afford. When you said to let you know if we think it's worth the price, I would have to say no. I love it but I see that it's not anything magnificent that another blue from Daniel Smith couldn't achieve. But I definitely liked the separation of the colors on the building.
I think it would be almost an exact match to Kremer Cobalt Blue deep which is an outstanding blue. Would love to get some but that price! I really love Kremers blue palette set which includes a pan of this but can't come at the price sadly.
It’s a nice color, but more interesting is the possibility for use in building, electronics and energy industries due to its reflective/cool properties…I have it from A. Gallo and her paints are great.
Thank you for the video Teoh! It's great to see the comparison because it really does look like deep cobalt. I don't seem to need this in my palette, but still cool none the less! Might pick up a pan in the distant future, we'll see!
Methinks the good doctor doth overcharge. He certainly hasn't invented anything nor can he patent this inorganic chemical which has existed for Billennia. His pitch that this is the first inorganic blue since Cobalt is spurious and self-serving. Teoh has done us all a favor and shown that, besides having that quality that only the expensive have, it is a solution without a problem (haha).
love the granulation and transparency but not crazy about the hue, not saturated enough for my tastes. interested in that brush you were using though - is that water in the handle?
When Kremer brought out their blue palette (with full pans, including YinMin) I was very tempted but I cannot really justify such a purchase for various reasons. However, it seems like a bargain at € 157 when the YinMin Blue is so expensive on its own!
Pretty, but I definitely wouldn't spend $60 ($75cnd!) on a single half pan. That's wayyy to much for any color, none the less a color that doesn't even fill any gaps in my current palette!😳 I always enjoy watching you sketch!
I would buy the cobalt blue dark rather than the Ynmin blue, just too pricey and only a pigment fanatic could tell the difference! And maybe not even them once painted out. I would just find it too inhibiting to use so it would grow old unused after an initial swatching. It would also make me feel incredibly guilty! Nice to see what all the fuss is about, so thank you for bringing a great review where we can see exactly how it performs.
Wow - how wonderful of you to review this!! 👏🏼👏🏼 I’ve been fascinated ever since the discovery was announced. Thank you - you’ve given us a great look at it. I’ll definitely pass at that price 😅. But it’s gorgeous in the pan - like a little blue sapphire. If I were you, I think I’d just keep it as a historical treasure, rather than use it.
It’s a beautiful color, and if money was no problem it wouldn’t matter what the price. Suppose you were a multi millionaire then $60 is a drop in the bucket. Until then I’ll use cobalt blue. Thanks for sharing this Teoh. Tallahassee Florida 🌴
Thanks so much for this. It’s really useful to see it next to cobalt blue. I think they’re both lovely, but I’m happy with cobalt. There are other colours I would rather get :).
You can prepare for a long wait. It is not expense because of novelty/patents, it is made with very expensive ingredients, and there is no reason why this would become cheaper in the future. Personally I don't mind, I don't see how it's superior to existing blues (it does have some interesting properties, but they are not relevant for painters).
@@edzejandehaan9265 I dont mind waiting or even not purchasing it - its not something that I need or really want to try but thanks for telling me why :)
I mean, I'm kinda intrigued, but I rather not be buying a colour for 60 dollars. I love blues, but thinking what else I can buy for that money, I'm passing on this and just be sticking with my French Ultramarine. Watercolours can be mixed after all, so I'll just be mixing and dabbling around with my already too extensive pallette 😅 and buy other art stuff instead 😂
@@teohyc I had been on a waiting list for months. They called me on the phone when it was finally available and I purchased 3 - 5 ml tubes of watercolor. I’ve had fun with it. I’m a watercolor addict, watercolorist, and always looking for new paint.
The color and the story are interesting, however having A. Gallo watercolor besides other brands like DS, Schmincke and Holbein, I don’t think they worth the price at all. The handmade watercolors are expensive for sure, but I’m not impressed with my A. Gallo set at all… I regret having spent that money for a 24 set. You can make your own palette with great colors buying other brand. Thank you Teoh for the video as always :)
Yep. They are a novelty, if some want to indulge then so be it haha, but proffesional artist brands are the most reliable, easily accesible, and reasonable priced for their quality, rather than etsy shops for handmade paints (sorry). Not to say people shouldn't but them, just that they are a novelty, something you buy for fun, for the sake of it, just to try it out or to support a store/individual, but not for it's technical qualities etc.
I don’t think there is any reason to have it just as a paint color. But as a scientific advance it is very cool. I bought a pan of Kremer (which needs to be watered regularly, just put it on your planner) and did little paintings with it for my friends who would be jazzed by that aspect of it. To be one of the first people in the world to see something in real life (not a video or a magazine photo) is a gift I could give them. So to me the cost is divided by how many people I can share it with., which is a special thing especially in these times.
I asked a UK paint maker if they would ever make this and he basically said it wasn't special enough to justify the cost. I think the Egyptians also had a synthetic blue but the recipe was lost.
@@teohyc I thought maybe you had to approve comments before they were published. I posted it twice and it never showed up. It was supportive and not rude.
@@carolchapel779 You mean comments on YT? Those are not moderated. But comments on my blog are screened. I did not see your comment on my blog though. Unfortunately sometimes my blog has problems handling comments. Comments may be lost or a single comment may duplicate a few times.
@@teohyc No, I tried to post here. Not terribly important. I happen to live in the same town as OSU and I attended a talk that Mas Subramanian (sp?) gave shortly after this discovery. He offered to give a small amount of the pigment. So I got some and mixed it with etching ink extender and printed a small drypoint of a Camas flower. That flower grows here and is blue and contains his name Mas. And yes the pigment is very expensive for fine art uses. I believe there are industrial uses for it.
This is costly because it is a patented discovery. If it was not for the U.S. patent you would find it for maybe a 1/3 of the going rate. Good luck to Oregon State University in stopping Chinese chemist from producing a bootleg version for their own artist community!
Yeah, that's gonna be a big nope for me. I'm quite happy with a much more affordable twin. Seriously! The difference between the colors is so minimal it just isn't worth the money UNLESS you are a serious collector of paints. If that is the case then absolutely! Jump on that little gem.
@@teohyc I know, I was joking. BTW Kremer also has YnMin Blue, I was very interested until I saw that it offered nothing unique or superior to existing blues.
Well, this is underwhelming for the price. Probably a dead born color. The goal of discovering new colors is either superiority or being cheaper. It's neither.
Well if she gave it to you for free she doesn't need me to buy it. Evidently she can afford to give it away. I'll stick with French ultra marine. Or I'll buy it from someone whom can't afford to give it away to youtubers soon could afford to buy it. Besides, soon enough it will be in every palette sold
Nope... doesn't make any sense to buy this for that much $$$... no one is going to care when they look at a painting you make what you used to make it. Story is interesting... the prices are just plain SILLY!
I see many people enraptured by the rarity of a pigment - regardless of what they'll do with it (or more importantly, what they can do with it!). Sometimes if feels like the watercolour world is turning into a fashion like industry, with must-have brushes, must-have palettes and accessories...
Agree.
Same... it's like that for many of these ... blame the industry for sending free stuff to tons of youtubers like FrugalLindsey ... who get the free stuff and then make videos for their millions of subbers who are addicted to buying stuff they don't use most of!
@@pesto12601
In the end, right now I'm using at least three art supplies I've discovered mostly through TH-cam (including Lindsey), and that I really like. Inexpensive, good quality and versatile.
And I'm grateful Teoh reviewed this pigment, it is an interesting story. He says it himself, he doesn't think it's an irreplaceable pigment. Yet some in the replies find it irresistible. My comment had more to do with what companies put on the market, not TH-camrs reviewing products.
@@tv-bb6vg Yeah.. well - companies like this one are tiny.. so they can try and push this stuff out there and if folks buy it for outrageous prices - good for them. I just laugh when I see 5 or 6 youtube channel folks all "review" the same product within days of each other... the marketing at the art companies in overdrive to send out these free supplies for publicity... and then folks just buy them. I haven't bought a new supply in the past 2 years... and happily have been learning to use what I have... it is a blessing for sure!!
Absolutely, art supplies, and watercolors in particular, have turned into a fashion thing, with people buying supplies just to be able to say that they have them.
This obsession with brands, with particular sets, with lightfastness even when one is only a hobbyist, insisting on artist grade products for the use in coloring books or for painting along to tutorials - I have only seen this in the last few years.
I remember when doing art mostly meant that you have your supplies by whatever brand it is that is being sold where you live, and then you work with those. And if you notice that you are needing something in specific, then you'll go and buy that. This also eventually resulted in having art supply collections, but very different ones, as they were functional collections, not collections for show purposes of which most pieces will not truly be used.
Now I have to admit that since the pandemic started, I have also fallen into this buying trap, HEAVILY. After several decades of being happy having just what I need to work, I also started wanting this and that and everything - A direct result of having all this time and watching a ton of art videos on here. But it's neither really satisfying, nor does it, in any way, make me more creative or better at what I do. Actually the opposite is the case, and I have started to feel overwhelmed many times.
The best way to work really is to use what one has, and to limit new additions to what one actually needs.
One important thing to keep in mind if you're going to get a pan of YInMn blue is that it will eventually harden up to the point where you can barely get any color on it. Oto Kano has done a review on Kremer's YInMin and her pan was almost unusable after about 4 months. So if you buy it, don't treat it like gold and make sure to use it up! :)
Wow that is some KEY info there!! I would save it if i thought to buy it. So maybe not.
Thx for info
@@hansendesigns Same here! I tend to hoard my more expensive supplies, so I'm glad I found out since I was given one as a gift. It's a good incentive to use it up and be more free with it though :)
@@TCSpottery hey, you might have something there! Art supply that is use it or lose it could be good :)
Actually I think what she found was you need to water it regularly. I have the Kremer and I just have it on my planner to water it.
While I agree with the overall sentiment in the comments that this pigment is probably not worth adding to your collection unless one is really in to the novelty of it as a new pigment (at least at it’s current price), I feel like some context regarding this pigment is missing from both the video and the comments.
For reference, I’ve been following news regarding this pigment for a few years and my understanding is that the price is expected to drop. Only recently did it start being available for use in commercially produced paints and the current limited supply is driving up the prices. Also, the lab that discovered this pigment did so by accident. The lab was not trying to create a super unique blue pigment. Additionally, this pigment might actually be more valuable in industry than in art because part of what makes it unique is how it reflects and absorbs light outside of the range that human eyes see.
I’ll be curious to see more paints with this pigment as it becomes more commercially available and the price drops because the same pigment can look a little different when processed in different ways.
I'm looking at the comments here and I'm laughing in agreement. It's an interesting story and a very nice colour, but as a $60 novelty replacement for Ultramarine or Cobalt? Nah. I'm grateful to early adopters and reviewers like you, for giving us a look, but it'd have to become a lot more mainstream and mass-produced - with the effect that'd have on the price - before I'd think about buying it. Come on, auto industry, get the lead out!
Oh, and where can I file a petition to get the name changed to Subramanian Blue? 'YInMn' Blue never sat right with me. Too sterile.
Subramanian Blue seems appropriate. lol
@@teohyc My mind mistook it as "Submarine Blue"
I felt this sticker shock with Daniel Smith Sleeping Beauty Turquoise Genuine. And when I ended up getting a half pan of it, I didn't like it as much as Roman Szmal Cobalt Turquoise. Or even Phthalo Turquoise. Novelty doesn't mean much to me anymore.
YIKES! Way out of my price range. But, oh what beautiful results you got with the colours on your beautiful sketch, Teoh! It always amazes me how you can mix paint right on the page like that! Thank you for showing us and I do believe I need to add Cobalt Blue Deep to my palette.
I think the story of this is super interesting, the fact that it's an inorganic blue that's been discovered by a scientist, whoa! But I think since the colour is so similar to colours that are cheaper, it's hard to justify having this blue unless you are just fascinated by pigments. The only reason I can imagine that you'd want an inorganic blue is to avoid heavy metal pigments like cobalt. But I think manganese oxide is still toxic (not sure, I know some manganese pigments are), so who knows! Exciting, though!
If things were reversed and he discovered Ultramarine Blue, the deepest, most vibrant true blue in existence and all we had was Ynmin Blue, I'd say it's worth it. But that's not the case, and not only do we have Ultramarine Blue for super cheap (it used to be more than gold!) we also have cobalt pigments that match its hue and granulation and exceed its saturation and depth. And Ultramarine and cobalt blues are lightfast, so it's not like that's a concern either. Ynmin blue really doesn't have a reason to exist.
@@LeesChannel I don't know. While I agree with you, I would have specified that Yinmin doesn't really have a reason to exist as commercially available paint right now.
However, the discovery of the pigment is (aside from exciting) an open door for other possibilities. That is pretty cool and I am very happy it exists. Even if for us right now it is concretely nothing more than a super expensive novelty or status item.
No paint is really toxic. Well except lead paint. But others aren't. The toxicity comes in making it. The chemicals that go airborne not the paint itself. Take cadmium paints for example. A 2 year old would have to eat 10 thousand tubes in one sitting to even reach toxic levels. The liver produces enzymes to filter these things from our body. To be quite honest about it, all this toxic stuff is just marketing.
@@phillipstroll7385 Okay buddy, let's see you eat 10 tubes of cadmium paint a day for 10 consecutive days and document it on video. That's only 1 100th of what you said would be harmful to a 2 year old, spread over 10 times as many days, should be no problem right? Feel free to substitute for mercury-based Vermillion or arsenic based Emerald Green, I'm sure your enzymes will protect you, it's all just marketing. Hey, I hear a scientist say that Roundup was no more harmful than a glass of water, why not wash down those tubes of paint with a tumbler of Roundup to really put all these toxicity myths to rest?
@@LeesChannel you don't have to see it numb nut. It's called math and science. I guess you went to school in Oregon huh. No one actually had to eat paint to know what levels are in them or how many it'll take before the live can no longer detoxify. Also, the whole point was a toddler couldn't eat that much paint. No one could. The binders would make a person blow chunks before they could ever ingest that much. But ya know, hey, what's math good for anyway right..
Thanks for the demonstration of this pigment. I’ve been curious, but since it doesn’t appear to be significantly better or brighter than cobalt blue, I think I’ll stick with my current palette.
I just got the A. Gallo signature 24 set and this was part of that set. The pricing for the set was in line with the pricing of all the other sets and not bumped up on account of this color being included. If the price of the set were different because of this half pan I probably would have passed, as getting it doesn't really mean much to me. I've only gotten to swatch the set so far but my impression when I did was seems nice but not so different and my skill level wouldn't make brilliant use out of it.
I wish the same could be said for the (edit: Kremer, for clarity) palette of blues. It is absurdly overpriced to compensate for this one pigment's inclusion.
Cool sketch of Boston! Fascinating color. Probably not one I will buy unless the price drops but it is very pretty.
For now, if the price doesn't lower down yet, it can be made into a hue by mixing it with Cobalt Blue and Ultramarine.
Personally, I'm sticking into non-granulating blues save for Cobalt Blue or Ultramarine.
I've heard about this new pigment and was curious about it. I'm glad to see it in action. It is a beautiful color. I'm glad to see that it mixes well with other pigments and gets predictable results. I'm glad to learn of places that carry it as well. Thank you for your timely review!
What a beautiful painter you are. I really love the colors you mix and the choices with how things stand out with the colors you use like the tree. I love the tree. And the building looks great with the blue and the red. Very very nice painting. I love it! The color separation of the red and blue within the paper on the building looks awesome and I absolutely love the color the tower turned out to be. You have an eye for such wonderful color mixing. I enjoy watching you paint so much! I will have to simply watch you paint with paints I could never afford. When you said to let you know if we think it's worth the price, I would have to say no. I love it but I see that it's not anything magnificent that another blue from Daniel Smith couldn't achieve. But I definitely liked the separation of the colors on the building.
I think it would be almost an exact match to Kremer Cobalt Blue deep which is an outstanding blue. Would love to get some but that price! I really love Kremers blue palette set which includes a pan of this but can't come at the price sadly.
It’s a nice color, but more interesting is the possibility for use in building, electronics and energy industries due to its reflective/cool properties…I have it from A. Gallo and her paints are great.
Thank you for the video Teoh! It's great to see the comparison because it really does look like deep cobalt. I don't seem to need this in my palette, but still cool none the less! Might pick up a pan in the distant future, we'll see!
It's a very beautiful shade of blue, but I don't see the reason to pay for that price tag with cobalt and ultramarine available for much cheaper.
Methinks the good doctor doth overcharge. He certainly hasn't invented anything nor can he patent this inorganic chemical which has existed for Billennia. His pitch that this is the first inorganic blue since Cobalt is spurious and self-serving. Teoh has done us all a favor and shown that, besides having that quality that only the expensive have, it is a solution without a problem (haha).
Cool to have another option for pigments but I think I will stick with cobalt blue and ultramarine just because of costs
I learn so much from watching your videos! Thanks for showcasing the first inorganic blue... how cool. Also, lovely sketch!
love the granulation and transparency but not crazy about the hue, not saturated enough for my tastes. interested in that brush you were using though - is that water in the handle?
The white brush is Nevskaya Palitra. Black one's Silver Black Velvet
When Kremer brought out their blue palette (with full pans, including YinMin) I was very tempted but I cannot really justify such a purchase for various reasons. However, it seems like a bargain at € 157 when the YinMin Blue is so expensive on its own!
Kremer's Cobalt Blue Deep PB74 is just nicer at a more affordable price. Definitely one of my favourite colours.
@@teohyc Yes indeed, I love Cobalt Blue Deep! 💙
Sorry but my guess about etsy etc is that some sellers are going to sell you cobalt blue deep for $60
Pretty, but I definitely wouldn't spend $60 ($75cnd!) on a single half pan. That's wayyy to much for any color, none the less a color that doesn't even fill any gaps in my current palette!😳
I always enjoy watching you sketch!
I would buy the cobalt blue dark rather than the Ynmin blue, just too pricey and only a pigment fanatic could tell the difference! And maybe not even them once painted out. I would just find it too inhibiting to use so it would grow old unused after an initial swatching. It would also make me feel incredibly guilty! Nice to see what all the fuss is about, so thank you for bringing a great review where we can see exactly how it performs.
Wow - how wonderful of you to review this!! 👏🏼👏🏼 I’ve been fascinated ever since the discovery was announced. Thank you - you’ve given us a great look at it. I’ll definitely pass at that price 😅. But it’s gorgeous in the pan - like a little blue sapphire. If I were you, I think I’d just keep it as a historical treasure, rather than use it.
It’s a beautiful color, and if money was no problem it wouldn’t matter what the price. Suppose you were a multi millionaire then $60 is a drop in the bucket. Until then I’ll use cobalt blue. Thanks for sharing this Teoh. Tallahassee Florida 🌴
How fascinating 😍reading in the comments how the colour came by 😍
Thanks so much for this. It’s really useful to see it next to cobalt blue. I think they’re both lovely, but I’m happy with cobalt. There are other colours I would rather get :).
I love how much more character it has compared to the there blues. Can't wait for the price of it to go down before I get my hands on one!
You can prepare for a long wait. It is not expense because of novelty/patents, it is made with very expensive ingredients, and there is no reason why this would become cheaper in the future. Personally I don't mind, I don't see how it's superior to existing blues (it does have some interesting properties, but they are not relevant for painters).
@@edzejandehaan9265 I dont mind waiting or even not purchasing it - its not something that I need or really want to try but thanks for telling me why :)
You can get Cobalt Blue Deep PB74 instead. More affordable. Kremer Pigment's version is the best. th-cam.com/video/Z4fMeaqFDw4/w-d-xo.html
@@teohyc Was thinking about cobalt blue, only got phtalo and ultramarine in my set, already added cerelean.
Schmincke makes a 5mL tube as well as QOR - lots less expensive (QOR is about $17 and Schmincke is $22.20 (Jackson’s art)
Thanks. I wanted to buy that but it's out of stock so fast. lol
@@teohyc - subscribe to alerts for the product - they actually restocked pretty fast
I mean, I'm kinda intrigued, but I rather not be buying a colour for 60 dollars. I love blues, but thinking what else I can buy for that money, I'm passing on this and just be sticking with my French Ultramarine. Watercolours can be mixed after all, so I'll just be mixing and dabbling around with my already too extensive pallette 😅 and buy other art stuff instead 😂
I was able to purchase a tube from Qor for $15. I found it’s staining, and granulating, a lovely color.
Was this during their invitation for mass order/pre-order?
@@teohyc I had been on a waiting list for months. They called me on the phone when it was finally available and I purchased 3 -
5 ml tubes of watercolor. I’ve had fun with it. I’m a watercolor addict, watercolorist, and always looking for new paint.
At least the price is not as bad as sellers on Etsy.
@@teohyc I saw Etsy but didn’t know if I could actually trust them, so I waited for Qor. More out of curiosity than need. 😉
Which watercolor pad have you used in this video
It's a beautiful colour for sure but I think I shall wait until Stuart Semple comes up with "YlnMn Blue 2.0"
Very interesting showing! Did I understand right, you used only three colors? Great combinations!
Beautiful scetch!
I've enjoyed the video and seeing it in action, but this pigment is a hard pass for me. It isn't special enough for the price. Thanks, Teoh!
The color and the story are interesting, however having A. Gallo watercolor besides other brands like DS, Schmincke and Holbein, I don’t think they worth the price at all. The handmade watercolors are expensive for sure, but I’m not impressed with my A. Gallo set at all… I regret having spent that money for a 24 set.
You can make your own palette with great colors buying other brand.
Thank you Teoh for the video as always :)
Yep. They are a novelty, if some want to indulge then so be it haha, but proffesional artist brands are the most reliable, easily accesible, and reasonable priced for their quality, rather than etsy shops for handmade paints (sorry). Not to say people shouldn't but them, just that they are a novelty, something you buy for fun, for the sake of it, just to try it out or to support a store/individual, but not for it's technical qualities etc.
I'm damn tempted to get A.gallo.. but its so expensive!
I will stick with PB74 - can‘t see any disadvantage against PB86…
i love blues but for a ‘new’ blue i kinda expect something not too similar to what is already in the market
Yeah, or a non- toxic version that works well as a dupe.
Please share the reference image ,I want to draw also.
Here www.reddit.com/r/ArchitecturalRevival/comments/oymznl/boston_custom_house_tower_tallest_building_in/
@@teohyc Thanks sir
@@teohyc how to select the perspective one point two point both present in this image
@@kartikproduction13 I will post some perspective drawing tutorials in the new few days.
@@teohyc it will be awesome thankyou sir.
i actually got a full pan of this color from Kremer for less. i do like it.
I don’t think there is any reason to have it just as a paint color. But as a scientific advance it is very cool. I bought a pan of Kremer (which needs to be watered regularly, just put it on your planner) and did little paintings with it for my friends who would be jazzed by that aspect of it. To be one of the first people in the world to see something in real life (not a video or a magazine photo) is a gift I could give them. So to me the cost is divided by how many people I can share it with., which is a special thing especially in these times.
This was really interesting!
I asked a UK paint maker if they would ever make this and he basically said it wasn't special enough to justify the cost. I think the Egyptians also had a synthetic blue but the recipe was lost.
It's not special enough. Cobalt Blue Deep is good enough, and special on its own.
Egyptian Blue used copper and was not as lightfast as modern pigments
It's nice, but not nice enough for the price. Thanks for showing it.
What is with this brand and pricing?? Seems like they are wanting to be the Louis Vuitton or Bugatti of watercolors 🤣😅
It's a beautiful color, but the price is way too much for me to be interested
I left a comment yesterday and it isn’t showing. Are they guaranteed ?
What do you mean by guaranteed?
@@teohyc I thought maybe you had to approve comments before they were published. I posted it twice and it never showed up. It was supportive and not rude.
@@carolchapel779 You mean comments on YT? Those are not moderated. But comments on my blog are screened. I did not see your comment on my blog though. Unfortunately sometimes my blog has problems handling comments. Comments may be lost or a single comment may duplicate a few times.
@@teohyc No, I tried to post here. Not terribly important. I happen to live in the same town as OSU and I attended a talk that Mas Subramanian (sp?) gave shortly after this discovery. He offered to give a small amount of the pigment. So I got some and mixed it with etching ink extender and printed a small drypoint of a Camas flower. That flower grows here and is blue and contains his name Mas. And yes the pigment is very expensive for fine art uses. I believe there are industrial uses for it.
just use ultramarine blue (PB29)... far more cheaper.... I'm staying away from YinMn Blue until it became series 1 price.
This extremely expensive blue doesn’t look any different to my Cotman or Van Gogh ultramarine blue.
Love it!!
It looks nice but too expensive for me.
I have a set of their watercolors….love them….but going to pass on this one….too expensive!
HOLY...! that is sooo expensive! >__
This is costly because it is a patented discovery. If it was not for the U.S. patent you would find it for maybe a 1/3 of the going rate. Good luck to Oregon State University in stopping Chinese chemist from producing a bootleg version for their own artist community!
Nice granulation though
I love blue watercolours but wouldn’t pay that much. 😞
Yeah, that's gonna be a big nope for me. I'm quite happy with a much more affordable twin. Seriously! The difference between the colors is so minimal it just isn't worth the money UNLESS you are a serious collector of paints. If that is the case then absolutely! Jump on that little gem.
Oh no Teoh, why did you do it...💸😭
I almost did but did not. The pan's sponsored by agallocolors.com/
@@teohyc I know, I was joking. BTW Kremer also has YnMin Blue, I was very interested until I saw that it offered nothing unique or superior to existing blues.
another episode of "why was this in my recommendedlist"
Beautiful but overpriced. 🐰
no buy to much money i used cobalt blue change used french ultramarine
his nameis ANDREW SMITH....i'll start telling everybody that this shade is named Andrew Blue, not Mas, not Oregon and surely not YInMn.
No I don't see myself buying this, too close to cobalt blue and I'm not a professional artist making money off my art.
Well, this is underwhelming for the price. Probably a dead born color. The goal of discovering new colors is either superiority or being cheaper. It's neither.
Well if she gave it to you for free she doesn't need me to buy it. Evidently she can afford to give it away. I'll stick with French ultra marine. Or I'll buy it from someone whom can't afford to give it away to youtubers soon could afford to buy it.
Besides, soon enough it will be in every palette sold
I think it’s just a novelty colour. It’s not very different from Cobalt Blue Deep
Nope... doesn't make any sense to buy this for that much $$$... no one is going to care when they look at a painting you make what you used to make it. Story is interesting... the prices are just plain SILLY!
Too much money for a color that is not really different 🥴
Allot of this stuff is insanely over hyped…waist I’d money for sure