Kramnik Threatens Lawsuit as Chess.com Clears Hikaru's Name

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  • @swedishpsychopath8795
    @swedishpsychopath8795 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1159

    As an impartial judge I feel Hikaru looks and behaves guilty?

    • @EIrondx
      @EIrondx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1220

      Using impartial judge and then saying “i feel that” to impart bias based on looks and behavior. That statement is kramnik level irony

    • @swedishpsychopath8795
      @swedishpsychopath8795 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

      😂@@EIrondx

    • @jaspermay5813
      @jaspermay5813 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      Also, you call yourself a psychopath, and we know how much such people care about truth and honesty.

    • @swedishpsychopath8795
      @swedishpsychopath8795 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +132

      @@jaspermay5813 Ouch - you guys sure are beating the messenger here. Just trying to earn a living as a judge. But to be honest: It isn't ME calling me a psychopath, it is my psychiatrist.

    • @bbus4447
      @bbus4447 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

      Pin of SHAME

  • @FacelessVoidDota13
    @FacelessVoidDota13 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1070

    He went full Kramnik, everyone knows you never go full Kramnik.

    • @ravishelly3790
      @ravishelly3790 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      lol

    • @StheSharknl
      @StheSharknl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I read it in that RDJ voice, you get a !!! for that one 😂

    • @daviddurbin7682
      @daviddurbin7682 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lmao

    • @rifdifirebolt
      @rifdifirebolt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      New meme

    • @Wachary1
      @Wachary1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂

  • @Schmated64
    @Schmated64 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1767

    Kramnik truly is one of the statisticians of all time

    • @joshpointoh
      @joshpointoh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      Not only that, I would bet money that in the history of time, someone was worse at statistics than him.

    • @nicolasrios1231
      @nicolasrios1231 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      @@joshpointoh Be careful, you might lose that bet.

    • @Dtownpunk77
      @Dtownpunk77 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lol well played.

    • @zphdbbox
      @zphdbbox 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Time for the old man to take another bathroom break before responding

    • @newphonewhodis9215
      @newphonewhodis9215 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Some would say the most!

  • @joeysmith4655
    @joeysmith4655 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    "I never named Hikaru as the subject of my blog post. I'm not accusing Hikaru of cheating at all. NOW SIGN MY PETITION TO HAVE HIKARU CHECKED FOR CHEATING AND APOLOGIZE FOR SAYING I ACCUSED HIKARU OF CHEATING!"
    The dude is a world champion bozo.

  • @TheRealPunkachu
    @TheRealPunkachu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

    Lol at Hikaru’s chat: “I beat Magnus in grand finals without headphones”
    “Yes but there was a ceiling” 🤣

    • @overbehindunder
      @overbehindunder 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Hans beat Magnus despite saying he has never cheated 'over the board'.... (the specific game with Magnus was oddly two computers opposite each other... lmao)

    • @zacharysherry2910
      @zacharysherry2910 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao

  • @douglaswhitcomb9729
    @douglaswhitcomb9729 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1103

    Sorry you’re having to go through this nonsense, Hikaru. I’ve been following you and watching your streams and tournaments for several years. You are a consummate professional and these unfounded accusations are ridiculous and without merit.
    Best of luck.

    • @ndnow12
      @ndnow12 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      Don't be, this is incredible for content. It's an absolute gift.

    • @tesibegaming3875
      @tesibegaming3875 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes like Hikaru reacting like a principled man an proving Kramnik is not right every time😂

    • @JackMott
      @JackMott 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The great thing for Hikaru the streamer is its content! Profit off annoying stuff.

    • @chrism3790
      @chrism3790 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Lol he's absolutely loving this
      Literally free content

    • @felixgraf459
      @felixgraf459 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I fully agree. I that being said, I applaud any serious endeavour, that anyone takes to combat cheating in this wonderful game.

  • @deonjansen
    @deonjansen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +679

    This is honestly an embarrassing situation for Hikaru to even have to address. Of anyone you could have chose to target for an accusation, this one is just plain idiocy. I cant believe Kramnik is still pushing this.

    • @vsetkoobsadene
      @vsetkoobsadene 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

      I'm kinda sure that Nakamura is thrilled about this. This shitstorm is literally free content.

    • @matthewglenguir7204
      @matthewglenguir7204 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@vsetkoobsadeneyeah.

    • @lucasmatsuoca
      @lucasmatsuoca 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      i think he was a bit sus of Hikaru and made all this drama to bring attention on how serious he is about cheating, like "Idc even Hikaru should be investigated to me, that's how serious i'm about GMs cheating". As he never did hit the hammer on calling Nakamura a cheater, but on "worth investigation".
      Was it smart? dumb? idk, probably dumb, surely this would bring a lot of negative impact to Kramnik reputation, maybe he was willing to be "hated" just to bring more attention to the cheating problem.
      I hope this was the idea, but idk, Kramnik seems paranoid.

    • @thiagobadin5331
      @thiagobadin5331 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@vsetkoobsadene Hikaru is farming the hell out of it, making tons of videos, posts and comments everywhere. He's literally making shit tons of money out of Krammik stupidity. I'm sure Hikaru just wants this to keep going so ke can keep milking this until the last drop. After all, his job is to be a content creator not a chess player as he himself told time and time again

    • @musical_lolu4811
      @musical_lolu4811 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lucasmatsuoca yeah, so what better way to bring attention to an issue than to pin it on one person because of... statistics or something. Yeah.

  • @PowerbangGaming
    @PowerbangGaming 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +148

    “Uh Oh, Spaghetti-O.”
    Hikaru Nakamura, 2023

    • @viktordolezel
      @viktordolezel 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Lol, there's a "translate to English" option under your comment 😂😂😂

    • @lollycopter
      @lollycopter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      4 top 100 players (is that Chesscom or FIDE's list?) in October is wild.

    • @marcoaureliofernandezreyes1413
      @marcoaureliofernandezreyes1413 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      1:28

  • @smashdioconnel1960
    @smashdioconnel1960 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    Hikaru shouldn't be suprised at the 2,000 reports, his premoves made me think he was psychic first time I saw him 😂

    • @and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all
      @and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      right! it's crazy watching him play, there are games were I'm like "There's no way he is winning this one" then he proceeds to pre-moves 10 times, stops looking at the board and starts reading the chat and its game over

    • @SpeedDaemon3
      @SpeedDaemon3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all his premoves would never work against my insane blunders, he could never anticipate them. :P

    • @and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all
      @and_I_am_Life_the_fixer_of_all 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpeedDaemon3 *gets pastor mated in 3*

  • @heavenxd7007
    @heavenxd7007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +446

    Kramnik is out of his mind.

    • @VictorMarwood
      @VictorMarwood 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Bro's drinking too much vodka

    • @defaultdefault9090
      @defaultdefault9090 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yeah he lost it

    • @vexztrinnity
      @vexztrinnity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      frfr wtf is blud yapping abt

    • @tremapar
      @tremapar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      At this point just reply to Kramnik with pipi pampers copypasta and call it a day

    • @utube7930
      @utube7930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's all outta ale

  • @danielshapiro2472
    @danielshapiro2472 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +309

    The reality of this situation is that this has been a matter of *elementary school level* statistics from the beginning. I remember reading about a coin flip example when I was literally 9 years old at math camp. Essentially, if you have 100 coin flips, you are *overwhelmingly* likely to get at least one streak of 5-6 heads or tails in a row. The likelihood is so high in fact, you can confidently identify a fake set of data if there are not more than 3 in a row during the 100 flips.
    Applying this to Hikaru who plays 50k games a year, it would be unlikely for Hikaru NOT to get 46 wins in a row eventually.
    Let that sink in. Kramnik has less understanding of statistics than an elementary schooler. You do NOT need to be a statistician to understand this concept.

    • @bookle5829
      @bookle5829 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      And also you have to remember that chess is not a game of chance.

    • @StheSharknl
      @StheSharknl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      That’s only taken randomness into account, even then it’s expected so great point. Add:
      - time control (3+0)
      - opponents (high winning chances due to elo differences)
      - dependent chances (multiple games against one opponent, those games can be grouped, are not independent due to tilt/psychology/style of play etc.)
      So basically the more statistics you know the more stupid/crazy Kramnik sounds lol

    • @wseverywhere1279
      @wseverywhere1279 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@bookle5829 and you also have to remember that those players were 400 rating below him, so in that case he should beat them every single time

    • @user-im4xu1nd5n
      @user-im4xu1nd5n 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Conceptually it’s not so hard, but mathematically this is actually a rather difficult problem. I have a B.S. in math/physics and honestly I had a hard time figuring out how to calculate the streak probability without resorting to simulations. I was curious if anyone derived an analytic solution, and frankly the formula was beyond comprehension for most people.

    • @supremespanker
      @supremespanker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it's like 6 streaks in 2 month. Not saying Hiraku cheated, but also please respect people's intelligence. It was silly of Kramnik to only list one streak, he knew of the others.

  • @iKSmurf
    @iKSmurf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +159

    Kramnik doubling down and asking for apologies instead of apologizing himself is crazy. What is going on with this guy.

    • @dislexyc
      @dislexyc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      He was quadrupling down last week, we're well past doubling down 😂

    • @jejxkxk
      @jejxkxk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He’s in too deep to back off now

    • @vanshshah23
      @vanshshah23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​oof

    • @SCK-47
      @SCK-47 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jejxkxk He is too deep? is he vibrating as well?

    • @MeatBunFul
      @MeatBunFul 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sorest loser of all time

  • @Siacourage
    @Siacourage 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +295

    Honestly, at this point we should all be concerned for Kramnik's well being. This may all just be a cry for help.

    • @ronanski11
      @ronanski11 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Lmaaaooo somebody send him help quick

    • @Jonalexher
      @Jonalexher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Seriously lol, this is getting absurd.

    • @preswiter
      @preswiter 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Крик о помощи хорошего data scientist 😅

    • @camus83489
      @camus83489 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      no its him getting paid by Russian FSB or Hans

    • @xxjongjongxx
      @xxjongjongxx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Seems like a manic episode or something. Or just NPD.

  • @callistotv0
    @callistotv0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +322

    The fact that Kramnik went this far is just soul crushing. Big up to Hikaru for standing up for himself!

    • @up2me967
      @up2me967 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes, he does not have the platform and all the incentives in the world to do so...Hikaru good on you for keeping on breathing...

    • @donsimons9810
      @donsimons9810 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      honestly i just enjoy the trolling aspect of this reply.

  • @AmanKumar-ys8ju
    @AmanKumar-ys8ju 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +466

    Mr.Kramnik its time to bow out with what little dignity you have left. Kinda getting ridiculous now.

    • @subparpt
      @subparpt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Claiming he still has a little dignity left would be giving him too much credit.

    • @dcoy8666
      @dcoy8666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well said

    • @myfavsandlikes7478
      @myfavsandlikes7478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      He could be having some sort of mental issues. Fischer was also a great chess player and yet later in his age he became paranoid and hateful (raging antisemite, etc). Mental health can make once noble people look like the complete opposite. Don't forget what he has accomplished.

    • @SPQR_14
      @SPQR_14 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@myfavsandlikes7478 Fischer was right about plenty. The man was not "insane" as people like to portray.

    • @ethanlarge3572
      @ethanlarge3572 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@SPQR_14He was right about many, but he was also insane.

  • @mrolox2
    @mrolox2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    You cannot comprehed how hard I laughed when he showed the comments in the petition.

    • @seinundzeiten
      @seinundzeiten 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      at least you had some comedic relief

    • @Santiago160
      @Santiago160 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah me too i had to stop drinking cuz i was dying with that

  • @eagle-eye29
    @eagle-eye29 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    Kramnik will now spend the rest of his life futilely trying to prove he was right. His ego and instability will not let him “drop it.” Sad end to a once great player.

    • @jaekn
      @jaekn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sounds like Putin.

    • @oswaldocaminos8431
      @oswaldocaminos8431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      eagle-eye29: I completely agree with your insightful comment bro.

    • @oswaldocaminos8431
      @oswaldocaminos8431 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jaekn😂😂👏👏

    • @kineahora8736
      @kineahora8736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Donald Trump-esque

    • @victorkao1472
      @victorkao1472 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All the more content

  • @TheAlleycat0909
    @TheAlleycat0909 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    as a content creator Hikaru is clearly loving Kramnik's journey down the rabbit hole

    • @dylanmeyer6614
      @dylanmeyer6614 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nobody enjoys watching someone lose their marbles. Give Hikaru more credit than that.

    • @manoklid
      @manoklid 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean free content is free content

    • @stephenasmith273
      @stephenasmith273 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dylanmeyer6614I don’t think he is actually losing his mind but his ego is for sure. He isn’t as famous as the top players today and it seriously bothers him… understandable to an extent but this is not the way to resolve that insecurity.

    • @TheRaziel08
      @TheRaziel08 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i mean if life gives you lemons, make kramnik-flavoured lemonade.

  • @kekke2000
    @kekke2000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    Hikaru keeps saying you don't have to be a genius to be good at chess. Kramnik is living proof of this.

    • @lagallinatomasita
      @lagallinatomasita 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      LMFAO

    • @magnet_ft_rylles
      @magnet_ft_rylles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Damnnnnnn hahahaha

    • @calebmhorvath
      @calebmhorvath 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so facts, he is clearly mathematically illiterate, you can run the calculations for a problem like this with a high school level grasp of statistics

  • @gotchaya
    @gotchaya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +195

    I hope Kramnik pulls through with his lawsuit so we can have more clownshow content by Hikaru and Levy.

    • @wrandy593
      @wrandy593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And yet here you are

    • @galois6569
      @galois6569 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Agreed. Look at that smile on Hikaru's face he is clearly enjoying that attention.I don't get why some people are angry at Kramnik, the only person he is hurting is himself.

    • @gotchaya
      @gotchaya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@wrandy593 yes I'm enjoying the content of Kramnik's meltdown and looking forward to more

    • @KNNY61
      @KNNY61 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But who would he sue? He plainly insinuated Hikaru cheated, there isn't a judge or jury anywhere that would find otherwise.

  • @chesscomsupport8689
    @chesscomsupport8689 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If Kramnik wants to sue for damage to his image, he should begin by suing himself.

  • @diskarte221
    @diskarte221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

    Hikaru does not need an engine, the engine needs hikaru💪

    • @tesibegaming3875
      @tesibegaming3875 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      True he doesn't know how pawn moves

    • @kumbinsihin
      @kumbinsihin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Flashback to when Hikaru got 10-0ed by Komodo

    • @Art8157
      @Art8157 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So ChatGPT is installed in Hikaru or he’s a robot with iron brain?

    • @neelanshgoyal3930
      @neelanshgoyal3930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok that's too much but we get the feelings

  • @ashersharol
    @ashersharol 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    I think Kramnik is spiraling for a reason that's unknown to me. Maybe it's some delayed version of a midlife crisis. Clearly, he accused Hikaru indirectly and when called out about it threatens a lawsuit? I had no clue Kramnik was such a scumbag. And to think I was such a fan of him for years, it's pretty disappointing to see him behave this way. Smh.

    • @Mjumbojetpresdent
      @Mjumbojetpresdent 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Right? It's so strange to me cause I LOVE his chess games. His chess style is super logical and positional. Crazy how this doesn't translate AT ALL to real life.

    • @MistaOppritunity
      @MistaOppritunity 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think he may actually have lost his damn mind. Which is always sad to see, and I don't think it should reflect on our perception of his past self, but we still need let him know that his behavior has been unacceptable.

    • @ashersharol
      @ashersharol 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Mjumbojetpresdent Yep. Maybe something is going very wrong in his life, but that doesn't mean you're to let it affect those around you.

    • @Nobody-df4is
      @Nobody-df4is 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Puzzling indeed. If he follows up with that threat of a lawsuit it will cost him a lot of money. It almost seems personal. Did Naka said anything mean about Kramnik in the past or something?

    • @KNNY61
      @KNNY61 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kramnik's NOT a scumbag. He could have worded his thoughts far better than he did with his initial video statements, and have been far more diplomatic in expressing his thoughts. But I would not call him a scumbag. One thing he is, IS concerned about cheating in chess. He went overboard by insinuating Hikaru was cheating. He should not have said 'interesting'; he very clearly should have said I don't believe, nor do I think Hikaru was cheating, but any results like this I would hope would be looked at, especially among players who are obviously far less talented in these formats.
      In other words, he could have done it way better initially.
      Now? He needs to back up, or a label like scumbag might stick. 🙄

  • @theonexx762
    @theonexx762 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    The only reason people sign Kramnik's petition is to unlock the comment section an troll him with their message. It's so ridiculous that he takes these signatures seriously lol.

  • @joshpointoh
    @joshpointoh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    As if Kramnik's lack of integrity wasn't obvious already, he can't even be honest about his accusation?
    He accused Nakamura of cheating. Period. Just because he didn't say the name Hikaru is a technicality with no merit. If you describe achievements that have only been accomolished by 1 person, then you indicated that person.
    If I say "I'm not a fan of the 45th president of the US," I am not naming a name, but I am identifying a specific person and making a statement about them.
    It's really a pathetic threat he makes that is completely pointless and does nothing but highlights his lack of integrity and honesty.

    • @JD-xz1mx
      @JD-xz1mx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is, objectively, a lie. It isn't a matter of him not saying Hikaru's name, he simply literally never said it was definitively cheating. From the beginning, he maintained that his point was that it warrants investigation. This is almost certainly because he was being cautious about defamation before he composed his first post.
      You can say ethically he really MEANT to accuse Hikaru, or that socially speaking, it amounted to the effects of an accusation, but he simply did not say the words, which is what will matter for any prosepective law suit.

    • @Ben9362
      @Ben9362 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He certainly stringly implied that he believed that Hikaru was cheating. This was only not defamatory because his claims laxked credibility.

    • @JamesJones-ts5fl
      @JamesJones-ts5fl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He’s employing Schrödinger’s accusation. If everyone agrees, he’s completely serious and leading the charge of fair play; if they call him out, he’s just making “general observations.”

    • @joshpointoh
      @joshpointoh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JamesJones-ts5fl you did a better job than me at summing it up

    • @joshpointoh
      @joshpointoh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @JD-xz1mx you are also mistaken, legally. It is not required for someone to say the words precisely. If you want to discuss case law, we can...

  • @VoldemortKramnik
    @VoldemortKramnik 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why do you keep harassing me with your insinuations of me accusing you. I will use the power of the Lawsuit Stone. Avada Kelawsuit!

  • @joshpointoh
    @joshpointoh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I know during the Speed Chess Championship, there is a camera on the players face, a camera on their hands and their monitor, their monitor is screenshared, and i believe headphones aren't allowed and audio is monitored as well.
    In addition to that, there are all the other usual detection measures of analytics and algorithms.
    Beyond that, what could anyone do to "prove" to Kramnik that Nakamura didn't cheat?
    I'd like to hear Kramnik explain exactly what would satisfy him, because apparently anecdotal "evidence" of misunderstood statistics is enough to convince him the cheating occurred, but cameras, screensharing, audio, statistical analysis and algorithmic analysis shows he didn't, but that's not good enough? Or even anecdotally, he's not even the only one to have done it.
    I'd like Kramnik to "prove" that his workd championship wasn't politically driven and Kasparov didn't hand it over to him.
    That was alleged by many people at the time, and apparently allegations are all that are needed to require you to prove innocence.

    • @luka188
      @luka188 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The burden of proof is on the accuser, so, Kramnik needs to provide proof of cheating, rather than Hikaru needs to proof to Kramnik that he didn't cheat.
      Hikaru didn't cheat, until someone can provide real evidence, or extremely convincing arguments that are beyond reasonable doubt to proof that he cheated.
      I mean, even though it is quite reasonable to suspect that hans cheated to beat magnus, there is no way to proof it, so even hans cannot be fully accused of this, even though the probable cause is still very likely due to his past history of known and verified cheating, the verified and known cheating of his chess teacher, and how outlandish it is how he beat magnus, and how weak his arguments were when defending himself and his chess play, etc, etc..
      In case with Hikaru, there is nothing at all. So, there is no reason to even suspect anything here, no probable cause even.

  • @dr.nigelcool3771
    @dr.nigelcool3771 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I heard that one time Hikaru ordered a Quarter Pounder at the McDonald's drive thru. When he got home and opened the bag it was actually a DOUBLE quarter pounder. Hikaru did not get back in his car and drive back to the McDonalds to return the double quarter pounder for the regular one.

  • @RMF49
    @RMF49 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It means Kramnik reported you 2,000 times.

  • @ludacrisbutler
    @ludacrisbutler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I didn't know world renowned statistician and data scientist Kramnick plays chess too

  • @JohnSmith-zr9rw
    @JohnSmith-zr9rw 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Kramnik probably cannot accept he is past his peak. He’d rather believe others are cheating rather than acknowledge the skill gap between himself and the newer talent

    • @jonsalvadori6275
      @jonsalvadori6275 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah.... Hikaru probably played more games in the last 3 months than Kramnik played in his whole life.
      That's what 3+0, 1+0, and an effectively infinite pool of opponents does. I almost feel bad for Kramnik, but man doubling down when you've been shown your wrong isn't a good look for anyone.

  • @platinumfactor
    @platinumfactor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Kramnik doubling down again is like a Jeopardy contestant being -$5000 in the hole and still trying to bet another $5000 on the final Jeopardy

  • @twrkhanasparukh
    @twrkhanasparukh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The "toilet" guy shouldn't"t speak so bravely about cheating.

  • @nicklouloudakis125
    @nicklouloudakis125 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I honestly wonder, has Kramnik thought what will be the outcome if Hikaru decides to get him to court for defamation, given the current facts, data and statistics?

    • @jaredschroeder7555
      @jaredschroeder7555 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The sad part is that it's incredibly hard to succeed in defamation cases. They require quite hefty proof, including willfully and maliciously spreading info. If this keeps up it may fit, but there is some chance his twisted brain believes this dumb af accusation.

    • @Aki-ow9hd
      @Aki-ow9hd 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jaredschroeder7555 so is "public disinformation"

    • @dsbmgrey9504
      @dsbmgrey9504 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It adds to the irony for sure. Hikaru is being accused of cheating, yet he is so respectful and honorable that he won't even take a free win in court. An opportunity to sue is the holy grail of cheaters.

    • @anubiset20
      @anubiset20 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Hikaru doesn't really have a case. At least in the US, you have to show proof of losses/damages. Hikaru hasn't lost any sponsors or money due to these accusations. If anything, he's making more money than his average due to the videos he's making on the subject.
      That isn't to say that Kramnik isn't being an idiot. If anything, it proves how much of an idiot he's been since no one believes him.
      Essentially, Hikaru could take Kramnik to court just to stop Kramnik from talking about this, but A) he might not even win due to Kramnik's wording. B) He couldn't seek money in reparations, as he hasn't lost anything.
      Defamation is a serious pain to prove. Not impossible, as seen in the Depp v Heard case, but difficult.

    • @KNNY61
      @KNNY61 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You also forgot defamation has to show intent, quite often malicious intent. Hikaru has no case, and would not bother filing such unless Kramnik tries to include Hikaru in some lawsuit, which would be baseless. No, Hikaru will just keep streaming and playing chess. Kramnik may self-destruct, but Hikaru these days is way past that.

  • @AleksiJoensuu
    @AleksiJoensuu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    I really hope Kramnik doesn't consult only his lawyers. The lawyers are going to get paid win or lose, and they won't be blamed for all the damage to Kramnik's reputation. I think he should consult some sane, responsible adult he trusts, who would hopefully tell him to go for a holiday somewhere without a roaming contract. Get some sun, eat a peach or two, go pet some alpacas or something. Come back after a month with a nice colourful holiday shirt and a new outlook on life. That's my prescription.

    • @koraliee
      @koraliee 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      "touch alpacas" is the new "touch grass" lol

    • @KNNY61
      @KNNY61 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So long as the shirt isn't pineapples, that just might work. 😄

    • @AleksiJoensuu
      @AleksiJoensuu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@koralieeYeah I guess that's sort of the same. I don't actually mean it in any kind of bad way. Really he seems to be oblivious to the damage he is doing to himself and his own reputation. And I'm afraid if he asks his lawyers, they will happily support him on this trajectory.

    • @Born2FearMe
      @Born2FearMe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You just forgot that he is from russia. So there are no holidays until they leave Ukraine xD

    • @AleksiJoensuu
      @AleksiJoensuu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Born2FearMe Wikipedia (the most reliable of sources) does say he lives in Switzerland, though the source is several years old. But if he were in Russia, maybe he could go on holiday there. Though perhaps not in, say, Sochi as it's quite close to Ukraine. But ah, that's in poor taste.

  • @bclaudew3
    @bclaudew3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    i really liked all your stuff before all this and this just makes me like you even more. you've handled it very well. way better than i would have.

  • @edddo4314
    @edddo4314 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I don't understand one thing - what exactly keeps Kramnik from digging deeper and investigating those games himself??? He's qualified to do so! And apparently he has time as well! Go and look at the games, look at the opponents, look at the streams where those games are played, go and analyze! It's a bit suspicious that he chooses to talk about statistics ONLY instead, it raises a questions about his true intentions.

    • @magnet_ft_rylles
      @magnet_ft_rylles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Basically his ego

    • @KNNY61
      @KNNY61 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Investigate Kramnik! Maybe he's trying to interfere with the candidates selection. 🤔

    • @martingrzanna2005
      @martingrzanna2005 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe he is stressed from his wife 😂

    • @jonsalvadori6275
      @jonsalvadori6275 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He also didn't post the statistics.
      "Shit or get off the pot" is the rude way to say it.

  • @YOLO22272
    @YOLO22272 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The smile on Hikaru's face when he read 2000 reports were done on him😂

  • @J-gh8kb
    @J-gh8kb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

    Anybody that watches Hikaru knows there's no chance he's cheating because he always explains every move.

    • @alexradom
      @alexradom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You should be a super clever person if you think so 😂😂😂

    • @Bageer1
      @Bageer1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I don't think he is cheating but this line of "evidence" is really bad. First he doesn't have to always be using an engine, second he is good enough that you/engine could show him a list of 5 moves and he would be able to explain any of them instantly or pick out a human enough move instantly and explain some of his thoughts around it, third he could just have an eval bar so he chooses and explains all the moves but just has a good idea if he needs to be a bit more careful based on evaluation.
      The whole "he explains everything, is a very good player that is quick on his feet, and super good at multitasking (looking at chat etc)" if anything would make cheating harder to detect as he has all the skills needed to do it in an essentially undetectable way. Of course just because he could cheat well doesn't mean he is and the stats and analysis suggest he isn't.

    • @tanishislam4953
      @tanishislam4953 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If he has those skills he doesn't need to cheat bro
      @@Bageer1

    • @LagMasterSam
      @LagMasterSam 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Plot twist: He has an AI installed in his brain that tells him what to say.

    • @galois6569
      @galois6569 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LagMasterSam The chess is legit, it is just the explanations that a superhuman. No one is human is that good at explaining chess.

  • @UbiquitousLightOfficial
    @UbiquitousLightOfficial 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "Who does Kramnik think he is? Bro thinks he's Putin. And that ain't saying much. 🤣

  • @aryavvzzhh
    @aryavvzzhh 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What annoys me is that kramnik wants a punishment not an investigation. He already made his mind while not knowing what he is talking about. Truly saddening.

  • @novanation5870
    @novanation5870 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The situation went from Kramnik having a genuine suspicion with what he thought was accurate data, to a Billy Mitchell type situation. All because he started to consistently lose in an argument in every way possible.
    ZERO of his arguments were correct against Hikaru, and now he "defends" his reputation by threatening a lawsuit. Unfortunate how fast this man has fallen from grace.

  • @swolejszo
    @swolejszo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I can believe that hundreds if not thousands of players accused Hikaru of cheating if you count his speed run accounts. If you are a poor shmuck playing at a 900 level and you get rolled by Hikaru it probably looks to you like you are playing Stockfish.

    • @aleksihiltunen7063
      @aleksihiltunen7063 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think it would be even worse than playing stockfish because stockfish plays only perfect chess but Hikaru knows how to cheese lower rated players

    • @adelait4313
      @adelait4313 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@aleksihiltunen7063 it's far worst indeed, Hikaru could use "inferior" move that are still decent but so so much harder for humans lmao

  • @christopherknight4908
    @christopherknight4908 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Kramnik is right about one thing: his reputation is definitely being damaged...

  • @NightwindArcher
    @NightwindArcher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    At this point, the only way for Kramnik to get his respect back is to admit he was wrong and he overreacted. He would have to apologize for his actions as well.
    But that shit ain't happening. So kramnik has pretty much ruined his reputation at this point and there is no return.

    • @AngeloGene
      @AngeloGene 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wish there was a way to erase his chess achievements from history. Some kind of Damnatio Memorae type of thing. xD

  • @Sidionian
    @Sidionian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tbh Topalov's accusations against Kramnik in their WCC is much more credible than Kramnik's against Hikaru.

  • @patrickhanlon2325
    @patrickhanlon2325 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Hopefully the guy has people close to him for support. Kramnik could be in a bad place with how hes acting

  • @JustLaila3011
    @JustLaila3011 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I would like to thank Kramnik for giving Hikaru something to stream about, because we love his streams

  • @starseed855
    @starseed855 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I don't care if he's a world champion or a ceo of a big company. This is not normal what he does. The fact that he goes this far says enough for me. I smell a little jealousy

    • @junkim5853
      @junkim5853 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Please do care for Kramnik because he is a grumpy old man, he is getting old and clearly becoming delusional and immature due to his old age.

  • @dark40010
    @dark40010 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    When I read this title I couldn’t help but laugh and say - “ladies and gentlemen - he’s trippin”

  • @Jasterouge
    @Jasterouge 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I remember watching a classical game of Kramnik vs Magnus a few years ago where Vlad completely misplayed the opening and got crushed. The commentator noted that a weakness of Kramnik was his arrogance in trying to force through his bad strategy rather than admit he was wrong and give it up. Seems like that trait of his applies to real life also.

    • @killerdoc1077
      @killerdoc1077 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wonderful insight

  • @rxw5520
    @rxw5520 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    You need to stop giving Kramnik so much “due respect”. He’s trying to ruin you.

    • @bambesfresser
      @bambesfresser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He is accomplishing the opposite. I used to have utmost respect for him. He certainly lost that one (that the has to care about that).

  • @TheDarkOneSC2
    @TheDarkOneSC2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I am a formal world champion, Hikaru is not. Yet he is performing better than me therefor the only logical conclusion is that he cheats.
    - Sherlock Kramnik

  • @demiballs2396
    @demiballs2396 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love it when Kramnik said "It's Kramnikin' Time!" and Kramniked all over Hikaru

  • @myfavsandlikes7478
    @myfavsandlikes7478 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I feel like this might be a sign of Kramnik having some real mental health issues not unlike Fischer.

    • @terrifictomato262
      @terrifictomato262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kramnik hasn’t been saying anything about Jews and women so for now we are safe.

  • @bahrss
    @bahrss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The funny thing is: everybody is saying "my conclusions are proven by statistics and maths". And then either doesn't show his results, or results are obtained with incorrect assumptions 😂

  • @nilesdesmarais7429
    @nilesdesmarais7429 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The beauty here is that in return to having to deal with false accusations, Hikaru is utilizing this as an opportunity for more content.

  • @nosir3875
    @nosir3875 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    karmnik has clearly forgotten that chess engines use hikaru to calculate

  • @undaomelas
    @undaomelas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    im sorry that you have to go through this Hikaru, stay strong!!

  • @jorgechavesfilho
    @jorgechavesfilho 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In human history, stupidity has a glorious past and a promising future.

  • @4rapaima
    @4rapaima 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is the content im looking for. Good job, keep it up Hikaru🙃

  • @rinkutachi
    @rinkutachi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    oh no! Another lawsuit!

  • @T1J
    @T1J 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    its wild how one troll can cause so much drama in a community

  • @Mojoemojow
    @Mojoemojow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can see Kramnik’s inner Soviet rises when it comes to inaccuracy in chess

  • @ifbfmto9338
    @ifbfmto9338 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Kramnik clearly accused Hikaru as having “impossible” results so yeah…… he accused Hikaru of cheating
    He’s a grown man, and now he can deal with the fact that everyone thinks he’s an out of touch paranoid fool (which, sadly, he is)

  • @Blaxmoke
    @Blaxmoke 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I can't believe how far this went, I can't take Kramnik serious anymore, this is Ridiculous ! LMAO

  • @Flashyfinancier
    @Flashyfinancier 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whatever the outcome of that lawsuit, lawyers are threatening to bill exorbitant legal fees.

  • @Alex-vx3dx
    @Alex-vx3dx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “I always drive drunk. 30% of car accidents are due to alcohol consumption, that means 70% are caused by sober drivers. Is better to be in the safe side” V.K. Master in Statistics

  • @Boppin.
    @Boppin. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This entire Kramnik situation is hilarious, he's lost his mind lol

    • @Nobody-df4is
      @Nobody-df4is 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It seems so. But it is also kind of painful to watch. I mean, I really liked the guy. This is such a disappointment.

  • @derrickgaddis275
    @derrickgaddis275 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What a sad hill for Kramnik to die on. Smh

  • @mariusrutkaus
    @mariusrutkaus 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wasn't Kramnik cheating against Topalov in 2006? And now he's trying to pose as a paragon of a fighter against cheating.

  • @subparpt
    @subparpt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I know Hikaru won't press anything but GOD I wish he would push some shit on Kramnik a lot harder. His ego is through the moon and needs to be absolutely shut down.

  • @drumcircler
    @drumcircler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Should Kramnik be investigated for serial arson? I’m not accusing him, I just think that we can all agree that nobody is above suspicion.

  • @ryanthenormal
    @ryanthenormal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Kramnik: *makes barely veiled accusation*
    World: "Kramnik made an accusation."
    K: "No I didn't, if you look carefully you will noticed it was veiled."
    W: "Right. Well, your accusation was not only unfounded, it was unwarranted."
    K: STOP SAYING "ACCUSATION" OR I'LL SUE.
    I feel like signing off as the 14th World Champion is more of an explanation for his unhinged behaviour than a chest-beating attempt at claiming authority.

  • @gamingpro2216
    @gamingpro2216 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kramnik will now be remembered as the loon who couldn't admit he was wrong

  • @Vixikats
    @Vixikats 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kramnik throwing shade on Hikaru is just insane, honestly. Hikaru has way too much self-respect and ego to ever be caught dead cheating at chess. When Hikaru plays you, he doesn't just want to win, he wants to take your soul. He wants to prove his dominance not to you, but to himself. An engine would never give him that satisfaction.

  • @eccentricbass3730
    @eccentricbass3730 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    (Not a lawyer) Hikaru should counter-sue. The chess speaks for itself.

    • @ccflan
      @ccflan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      he's busy to do such a thing and with ignoring him he gains more respect from chess world

    • @bambesfresser
      @bambesfresser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      For what? Kramnik gave Hikaru extra content and revenue. The accusations are so ridiculous that no one with half brain takes them seriously.

    • @ccflan
      @ccflan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bambesfresser if hikaru was a girl she will definitely do counter-sue, talkin about statistics 😂

  • @BardiaElahidoost
    @BardiaElahidoost 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    ❤I'm thrilled for you and pleased with how things are unfolding in this case.

  • @plottwistaftercredits3144
    @plottwistaftercredits3144 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Benzema signing the petition 15 times got me 😭😂😂

  • @alienrenders
    @alienrenders 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How is Kramnik seriously saying this is not an accusation? It's like asking "when did you stop beating your wife?" and saying it's not an accusation, just a question. I can't stop laughing at Kramnik's posts. They're completely unhinged.

  • @Benevolent_sociopath
    @Benevolent_sociopath 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I'm genuinely happy that Kramnik did all this. As hard as I've tried, I've had trouble fully detaching chess from intelligence even though chess skills is very specific and doesn't correlate to overall intelligence. But seeing a world class chess player struggle to understand the most basic statistics concept while acting like a child, it has finally allowed my brain to make that detachment. And also thank you Kramnik for the all entertainment, your constant idiotic action really has been making my day recently 😆

  • @RobsMiscellania
    @RobsMiscellania 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When a person actually has a lawsuit, they just go ahead and file it, they don't threaten to file it like an internet tough guy. What a goofball.

  • @MultiDreamer1234
    @MultiDreamer1234 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why isn't Kramnik happy with the result? He got the investigation that he wanted. Instead he is suing, wtf?

  • @thertcll
    @thertcll 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Hikaru's anything but a cheat. Could definitely use less repetition of phrases, however 😂

    • @ezeloirmk2
      @ezeloirmk2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      FIRST THINGS FIRST

    • @AlTarif
      @AlTarif 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jeez Louise. Uh oh spaghetti o

  • @Musix4me-Clarinet
    @Musix4me-Clarinet 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Topalov was right about Kramnik. If we are going to make meritless accusations against top players in the world, we should at least remember that Kramnik was checking a phone app during his World Championship game against Topalov. Either that, or he had the "squirts".

  • @drunkenhobo8020
    @drunkenhobo8020 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Benzema reference went right over Hikaru's head... and that's probably for the best.

  • @MichaelDavis-zf6nt
    @MichaelDavis-zf6nt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kramnik has 2000 accounts to report Hikaru and used the same 2000 accounts to sign the petition.

  • @curtis.shorts.675
    @curtis.shorts.675 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love yall hope yall have a great life❤❤❤❤❤

  • @rockybfb
    @rockybfb 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bro's really trying to make some money off Hikaru 💀

  • @ifixfridges7792
    @ifixfridges7792 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "can cause huge damages for me." Buddy, you brought this upon yourself.

  • @damianoledda5497
    @damianoledda5497 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Kramnik is that uncle that doesn't believe Covid ever existed

  • @80-80.
    @80-80. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Does he intend to use the credible Russian legal system?😂

  • @brandonsong3977
    @brandonsong3977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There’s just no way 😂

  • @Jonalexher
    @Jonalexher 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wow Kramnik actually lost his mind, wtf... 😂😂😂

  • @ChrisChoi123
    @ChrisChoi123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Only a matter of time before he starts accusing magnus of cheating

  • @quantumelle
    @quantumelle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is insane lol

  • @alisioardiona727
    @alisioardiona727 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imagine being so good that an ex-world champion harasses you for months believing you must be cheating.

  • @bignerd7683
    @bignerd7683 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this drama because i remember the older videos where it was joked that you had a 2nd monitor on the ceiling and stockfish constantly playing up there

  • @playinsanity5133
    @playinsanity5133 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't expect those petition comments to be like that lmaoo

  • @cowsaymoomoo
    @cowsaymoomoo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Reporting Hikaru after every game for “cheating” is quality meme material