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Seeing What New Incantations Work In PVP - Narrated Thought Duels | Elden Ring
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 มิ.ย. 2024
- Fire Serpent is great for breaking neutral and keeping aggression, Pest Thread Spears is great for the awkward delay it has, and Knight's Lightning Spear absolutely shreds anyone who stands still to cast / buff, etc.
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They finally let him out of the cell they have him play DBD in.
I small hiatus then he will be locked away again until dark souls 4
@@robbiekinsey1337 so forever then?
😂
the irony of being able to predict the blindspot by it just being the same blindspot every time
Hopefully blindspot spammers don’t see this but you can actually choose which side you want to attack while using blindspot
@@lute6904 Thankfully their brains aren't developed enough to read
@@lute6904 Oh really? Is it directional input?
@@MainTopmastStaysail Yes, you can go left or right with it.
Scott "only reacts" Jund back at it again, reacting to his own gameplay. I love it.
fucking yes, narrated thought duels are back my absolute favorite content
That catch flame blind spot predict was absolutely nasty
The counter to that is to use the directional input for blind spot, switching between left and right until you get them to predict your next left or right and then do the other.
The player was brain dead using the exact same combo like 6+ times
i like seeing a competent caster use all these new spells. Whenever i run into casters it's just someone lightrolling away and spamming swift shard/slicer.
I’m combo master Scott gotta use giant golden arc if he ever wanna reach his caster peak
What's wrong with that?
@@FoulUnderworldCreatureIt's the most casual and unskilled way of playing the game in any sense. Most of these weebs have never even swung a weapon.
@@briantryin6113 it's really not but I'm guessing you're like the first guy in the vid, immediately bitching out when the opponent doesn't stand there and take R1s to the face 🤣
@@FoulUnderworldCreature I've been playing since demon souls I'm literally in the same category as them, I can fast swap, menu swap, roll catch, etc. It's not hard with enough practice. I don't use spells other than buffs for weapons. I've literally competed in tournaments and everything. You sound like someone who spams ash of wars and spells 24/7.
An good option of AoE spell for invasions is Messmer's Orb, since it can deal almost 2k damage if you stack all fire damage bonuses and charge it. The hosts and phantoms seem to have a really hard time dodgin it due to the delayed explosion, so you can rollcatch their recovery from being knocked down from the first cast with a second uncharged cast. Killing the host by Messmer's Orb into rollcatch Messmer's Orb is just dumb fun.
Saw a clip of someone using the new mage spell that teleports you into inescapable frenzy. They would teleport through an attack and then do the frenzy grab as a roll catch and it worked surprisingly well
Requires at least some int/faith to do but the new int/faith staff is perfect for it
@Koballin the frenzy spell is broken with the new staff rn, does next to no damage. You have to use golden order seal in offhand for the combo
Let's go i was waiting for this to come out good to see u back at narrated duels and yes its morally correct to heal yourself if someone uses swift strike.
Based profile pic AND opinion? Let's freakin gooooo!
The gkat running attack is identical to its crouch/roll attack meaning you can chain these attacks together with very slightly different timing. It's an insanely good vortex.
Rakshasa gkat also has the poke r2 and hyper armor.
The followup r1 also prevents people monkey mashing out of hitstun since the followup poke is so quick.
I was surprised at how much hyperarmor it gives you, once I finally respec into a pure DEX build it'll definitely become my favorite over baymore even.
@@anitaremenarova6662 Its basically just a better baymore, just without being infusible and no changing WA.
Better crouch attack, same R2, longer range, higher damage. And you can you have a good running r1.
11:20 You can actually switch sides with blind spot, just tested it out on some mobs because I remember doing it before. The guy was just being brainless. The skill despcription reads "Leap into close quarters to take advantage of the enemy's blind spot and gore them from the side. Inputs determine which side you strike from. This attack slips below the opponent's guard." Not entirely sure how precise the timing is but if you strafe left or right before you press the ash of war, you'll always move in the direction of the strafe. Unsure how well back/forward works or if there's some kind of intermediary directionals though.
As for blindspot, most people using it are pretty simple, so you can bait it out and bonk them on the recovery. Another potential solution, though im still testing it, is charged R2 on light greatsword, if you release it as they use the ash, the hitbox is active at the very start of the swing, and as it comes from your lower side, if they end up there, they get smacked before their strike lands, which will often knock them out of it. (not your better by any fu*en means, but have been looking for counters for basically everything so any knowledge is good knowledge given the game revolves around knowledge checks at this point, at least for a while)
I was totally looking towards a pyromancy/pure faith build in pvp, since Catch Flame has reigned for too long. I'm glad at least Fire Serpent can stand a chance for that short-medium bridge.
Crucible breath can also be a good mixup when they come in expecting an easy to punish snake.
Please keep making more of these. Your Dark Souls 3 one's were how i originally found you and they were amazing and i don't even play that game or this one but you explain it so well it's like listening to someone talk about anything with insight whether it be fighting games, MagicTG, W40k or any other hobby people have a passion for.
Yeah! Back to good old days narrative duels 👍
This is what i asked for on stream. These are the best videos you make Scott!
It's nice to have you back. You were always my favorite to watch.
I’m so happy narrated thought duels are back, these are so much fun
whoever put the reflection in the albanauric helmet
eye is a madlad lol
Glad that you're back to ER content! Kinda surprised I haven't seen you use crucible breath, it's excellent for duels and fills the same close-mid range slot you use the flame of frenzy for except the damage can be boosted by the crucible set further.
Dude. I loved watching you do this with DS3 back then. Awesome to see you doing it again.
reminder that you can aim blindspot to attack from the left as well as the right. So if your opponent actually knows what they're doing it becomes a lot harder to trade with catch flame.
Good thing Rakshasha got that 180 angle on weed cutter
An incantation combo I’ve been really enjoying in Invasions is the final boss spell into multilayered rings of light and then into Knights lightning spear. But honestly I might add flame serpent to it or replace rings of light with it since it tracks better.
If the first incant misses it means nothing, but if it hits, you get a ton of pressure and they’ll usually panic roll and eat your follow up incants.
Love these Scott, keep at it
Miriam’s vanishing is a very useful and bad ass sorcery for pvp. Check it out. You can soft chain spells from it as well. Example being Miriam’s vanishing->Carian piercer.
The narrated thought duels are back!
Please keep doing more of these Scott.
Narrated Thought Duels are the best content on this channel.
Love these type of videos man appreciate ya❤
another spell i like using is the giant golden arc incantation. Big hitbox, tracks, moves slowly enough that you can run behind it and start roll catching.
A decent counter I found for blind spot is wraith of gold. It isn’t perfect but the big aoe really shuts down people who mindlessly spam it. You have to kinda predict when they’ll do it but most people running blind spot are pretty twitchy and will use it whenever they see you start an animation.
So I have using dry leaf’s palm blasts and Dragonmaw’s hyper armor to counter blind spot and swift strike. Dragonmaw is less likely to work but sometimes if you predict when and where they are gonna do it.
I would also recommend Messmer’s Orb, it is pretty fast and does nice damage, can also be used as a mix up in combos
Useless in a duel, great for invasions though.
The way i describe fire serpent is its a plus on block projectile, but it also has a really fast cast time
Biggest weakness to fire serpent I felt is it consumes just a tad bit too much stamina to play really agressive with it trying to setup melee combos, otherwise it's definitely one of the best pvp incants we got.
The new disc spell, multilayered rings of light is also very good for punishing ranged spam/slow animations.
My favorite is comboing in miquella's light after collapsing stars pull though. It's not safe at all but when you pull it off when the opponent doesn't expect it they get really disoriented and usually get hit and it just feels epic. Just sad you need gigalordian int and faith to do it with metyr's seal as well. Worst part of miquella's light though is the way it functions. It shoots an invisible projectile that your opponent can roll and that makes it go behind them hitting a wall and exploding there... They need to fix it so it just targets who you are locked on to, it's already dangerous enough to use...
God, seeing narrated thought duels again takes me back to when you were the supervillain of the DS3 Reddit, glad to see it back
I guess i have to start finding the worst weapons again.
TH-cam autoplay jumpscare
Helpful as always, thanks Scoot. Any chance you’ll grace us with another sniper frog invasion video, that was fkn class.
Lets GO!!! I've always loved these duels.
Fun to see this series back again. Can’t wait to see more dlc setups tried.
On my own testing for sorceries, gravitational missile is a killer spell specifically for the aiming down part. The AoE is huge, and the distance can be mixed up by free aiming slightly further away on the ground, so it’s hard to punish. Getting a knockdown also lets you set up Glintblades or a Sword Phalanx and keep the pressure on. I then mix it up with Blades of Stone to hit players trying to punish my AoE spam with their own ranged attacks, since they have the same animation. Blades of Stone then gives me even more mixups because it blocks like of sight, as you pointed out with that lightning spear kill in this video.
Also fun in PvP, although I’m still trying to figure out how best to use it, is Miriam’s Vanishing. It’s a slow teleport, but it has two advantages that I can see: 1. The ending animation (where you emerge from invisibility in a cloud of smoke, obscuring your animations) can be canceled into casting another spell. 2. It seems to break enemy lock on? If that second thing is true and I’m not just imagining it, this should be a solid get off me tool if the opponent is locking on a lot. Hiding the cast animations is also really fun. I enjoy mixing up that animation cancel with Carian Slicer to sneak in a hit, and Comet to punish people not reacting (or reacting with a ranged counter) when they are far away. Then when they get wise to this, I begin cancelling into Gavel of Haima for hyper armor trades.
Why can't I run into more mages like you, it's always the same tired old cheese lol. Still think sorcery is way overtuned compared to incantations but at least you're having fun with mixing it up.
Scott Hybrid's are eating *good* this patch my good lord
i know you were talking about incantations only but whats your opinion of vortex of putresecence? feels like a S tier invasion sorcery offensively and defensively. maybe its because people dont know the dodge timing yet but it comes out very fast and can be comboed into incredibly fast. Also amazing video! ill be sure to watch the next ones this was my first time here
yaaaay return of narrated thought duels!
How is that a "good reflection map" in the eye of that mask when the eye wasn't even facing that direction? So it's more of a see-through? Or reflection of where the camera was facing and not the eye?
Hey Scott as for counters to blind spot/swift strike the only thing I’ve seen that evens the playing field is shieldpoking with a good greatshield of using dueling shield. These aren’t 100% hard counters but they’re the best options I’ve seen
Also I really like your serpent + catch flame combo, I’m gonna try putting catch flame right after serpent because it looks like a lot of people have figured out you can rush under the serpent fireball and get close
blind spot goes through shields tho
I absolutely eat through dueling shielding w blind spot
interesting you say that bc i switch to a backhand blade with blindspot whenever i see someone turtling with a shield
What? The thing is literally designed to ignore shields, you can jump it if you time it right but otherwise you just have to hyperarmor trade.
What sl would ya do for this?
ALWAYS heal against swift slash and blind spot if u get a chance.. u can keep sword of damnation then endure in to the crux grab is about the only swift slash counter. Iron jar first also helps, better than endure. U can iron jar in to perfume cheese 1 shot for swift slash if lucky too. Nothing is more satisfying than landing the crux on a swift slash user. It works! Sometimes i just use thiolliors concoction though.
Maidenless behavior, blind spot is easy enough to counter. Against swift slash spam you use the pull the plug into throwing monitor out the window true combo.
@@anitaremenarova6662 I've landed the crux about 4 times today. that is so satisfying to land in a swift slash scenario. Otherwise it's boring af. it grabs everyone who's stupid enough to get close. Next is to land more perfume 1 shots on them! blind shot is very hard to counter if it's used defensively. It's fairly easy to dodge the spam but when they use it after your swing there's not much you can do.
These duel videos are pretty fun for me since I don't think I'll ever try pvp myself.
How tf you had reflection of a hall in your eye while facing chimney
I appreciate your input to the ER community, Scott. You were missed over the last two years
I've never even played Elden Ring, but I find these very enjoyable.
Would you be willing to check out the Staff of the Great Beyond and some of the combo potential that exists for it? The damage isn't the best, but in my experience it does not have to be.
I keep forgetting how good of a damage spell flame of frenzy is
The frenzy spells deal insane damage across the board. I haven't dropped them since launch because of how fast you can cook everything.
I missed Scott. Its refreshing to listen to an insightful pvper that doesnt have a massive ego/inferiority complex
I can give you some recommendations but they all do invasions pretty much exclusively.
8 seconds after upload and TH-cam sent this my way, solid lol
Scott I’m just starting pvp but can only do duels. How do I access the other options like 2v2 etc? Sorry for the noob question. I literally can’t change any of the options
Whats Scotts level and stats in this vid?
Have you tried the new madness spell out?
I thought it was pretty good for killing players who were low but it really does just feel worse then the OG flame frenzy one.
MORE NARRATED THOUGHT DUELS HELL YEAH
Maybe endure and then use catch flame to trade during blindspot's recovery? Or just a spell that hits 360 with endure
Nothing else matters other than BHBs right now. PvP centers around them and countering them.
Other than swift slash they're fine. The horned guy's curved swords also look like a potential problem but not enough players have gotten their hands on them yet so we'll have to see.
Those goofy frog eyes see all, especially that Couch Flame is OP. Is there a sorcery equivalent to this planned?
missed these :)
Other decent new incants: Giant Golden Arc comes out super fast, has good damage and a weird hitbox. The tornado spell is easily punished but if you can get one off at range its big AOE is pretty good at catching people. I usually use Giant Golden Arc to make them run away in a straight line and follow up with the tornado spell.
The tornado just seems like a pressure spell, not very good given the long casting time though
@@anitaremenarova6662 yeah the long casting time means you have to put some thought into zoning with other spells; hence the giant golden arc into tornado strategy has worked pretty well in my experience if they run from the arc instead of rolling into it
Can you hoarfrost stomp blind spot?
Given how you get really in depth in the PVP side of Souls games and have a good fundamental understanding of the mechanics, recovery, etc. I wonder if you ever tried your hand at fighting games Scott?
Is blindspot parryable for the average build. Also i tried the jew scarlot rot butterfly spell and its sad how bad that incantation is
Scott you should try using the impenetrable thorns on invasions. It’s been so fun using it.
Yay, the boi is back
Yay, narrated thought duels :D
You should make a video all about oneshotting people with charged O, Flame! free aim predictions, it’s pretty fun. I do it while wearing the Fire Prelate armor (I think I might’ve gotten that idea from you)
How does he cycle back to catch flame so quick? dont you normally need to go through your whole spell list?
if you place your desired item/spell in the first slot you can instantly cycle back to it by holding their respective buttons (down and up on the d-pad respectively), feature inherited from DS3
@@coolbeans3635 tysm!
the best riposte tool for every build is a misericord infused with what you have most invested in ie Magic infusion, holy infusion(for pvp as its lower def than fire/flame art)
I've used gravitational missile to lock off a direction when people try to run strafe
Third thing (praise the algorithm gods)... Fire Serpent can be parried by Erdtree Greatshield however, the Fire Coils consumable which is fairly similar cannot, so you can bait folks into eating them for free
you might want to try the Great Katanas yourself, they have an r1 True Combo.
overhead attacks, depending on spacing, can register as a Headshot, stunning you into the next hit.
Great video 😀
That first guy must be fun at parties
11:04 Good shit, sir. Very satisfying.
The can choose which direction blind spot hits you on, they were just too bad to try.
Not sure if this has been cleared up yet, but the quick combo cast from Catch Flame and other spells is intentional. There are a few NPC invaders that use the tactic and it hasn't been patched out so it is hard to imagine it's a glitch or exploit.
What is causing scott to take that stance?
Two handing the seal
NARRATED THOUGHT DUELS LESSS GOOOO
messmer’s orb is a hilarious otg tool.
love ur elden ring content
Been trying real hard to make ansbach work with bloodflame claws it hasn’t been doing much.
Miss you scott.
oh algorithma oh algorithma, have mercy on the poor bastard('s engagement metrics). grant us views, grant us views.
"swift strike" are we just all subconsciously make this Genji reference without acknowledging it? AoW is called swift slash lmao
Vile Redman has been released from the killer main dimension
should try mesmers orb, hit so many people can vary the aoe by charging it by a lot.
Why level 171? I’m at 150 rn should I move?
the DLC is going to force a 170-200 "casual" meta for what it seems.
150 is fine
Honestly you're gonna get games consistently at levels 120-250+ so just do whatever you want.
@@SomersBugtopia It's gonna be somewhat important for PC when the seamless coop update comes out and PC becomes a ghost town again. Gonna be interesting to see what level will remain the most active then, most likely 150+.
You have essentially made a Phantom's Dust build. If youve never played that game youd probably like it, it is fightincowboy's favorite.
Fuck that intro scare me
god, I missed these
11:24 "Couch Flame" coined.
"Also I'm super rusty" Not me doing my first invasion day 1 of the dlc and forgetting that the game gives you like 10 seconds of invincibility when you enter :)
What level are you? Just curious
171
Had some luck with storm stomp against blind spot but never fought a good player with it