Law of Regression is not from Gideon it's from the "Golden Order Principia prayerbook". Which is actually above the boss room you fight Gideon in, in like a hanging chair. Just gotta climb up there and grab it. And give to turtle pope
And then ending on needing to NG+ to get Law of Regression from Gideon the All-Knowing... the 'know everything' arc really is perfect. (You don't actually need Gideon or NG+, but the comedic throughline is really good)
Which is it though? At first he said the sword only hits if staff in left hand. Then he says you'll do half damage if you can't it with staff in right hand? I assume the left one is the better one since I believe he said it more then once
I use law of regression with pure sorcery and the frenzy flame seal doesn't have a faith requirement and it weighs nothing, so it fits pretty well in the set up.
Yeah Law of Regression still works even if u don't meet the requirements for the seal, but I will say it's really annoying for quick swapping cus of the pop-up xD so frenzy seal is still better for that.
I had a mage-off with a guy who thought hiding under Eternal Darkness meant he won. What he failed to realise is that I DO run Cannon of Haima in duels and he just sat there and ate a nuke to the face.
For Law of Regression, the frenzied flame seal doesn’t have any faith requirements so you can use that without respecting any points. Of course, you’d have to have a character go through and unlock it, but I hope that helps
You can use any seal. Just like you can use other weapons without required stats (just won't get the scaling from that stat), you can also use seals and staves. You just need the required stat for the specific incant or sorcery to cast it. You'll have less incant scaling but if all you need to cast is law of regression it doesn't matter.
A bloodhound step spammer called me in for a duel a couple days ago and then proceeded to get 100-0'ed by the Zamor Ice Storm when he dashed in to hit me
@@ritoTM I know it was likely bait but I felt like i needed to say something anyways, the world is crumbling around us and we all need to stand up for our beliefs
@12:00 I believe his storm stomp must have started on his end before he got hit. The poise on storm stomp is insane. Don't think I've ever seen it staggered besides death.
Some things you can try that could potentially improve the build: 1) One strategy I like doing that has seen some success is aggressively chaincasting either swift glintstone shards or carian sword into glintblades. This is so you maintain close range pressure where they can't just run away to avoid glintblade frame trapping and often results in a lot of panic rolling. 2) Try out the helix sorcery (forgot what its actually called). The actual projectile damage is ass but it has very good tracking and takes up a lot of visual space so in that respect it's a more economical version of elden stars minus not having a horrendous cast time. I've used it to mask other spells, like setting up glintblades and also sneaking in chip damage by firing shards through the live projectiles every so often. Not that good if they're hyper-aggressive but I've found success doing this. 3) Law of regression can in some cases be a counter to barrier of gold if you're able to keep pressure on them before they have a chance to apply it again, especially if they're playing a non-caster setup where they'll most likely have far worse fp economy than you do. That and its just a nice utility to have to help deal with some cancer builds like seppuku dual nagis/havelmonsters abusing equip load flask and so forth. Gotta say though pretty surprised how good magic is in this game even vs. decent players. You can actually defend yourself besides being from uganda and giving the opponent heart palpitations because they swore that spell landed like 20 seconds ago and they're just nervously waiting to see if they'll just drop dead instantly
23:35 "Was that fun? Was that an engaging duel? Did you learn anything from that? Of course not." Yes, Scott. Yes, I did. Stars of Ruin is dumb is what I learned.
On PC it seems like one out of every four or five coop summons has either one or both phantoms disconnect. I've been doing a lot of helping with Godfrey because I think its a fun fight, but there are just so many disconnects. Its like some invisible monster just cuts the cord for one phantom, then 30s later I'll DC too. I couldn't imagine how frustrating it'd be actually trying to coop through a zone.
As someone who plays mainly with my friends, we have to re do bosses at least 7-8 times just because of disconnects alone. It's embarrassing how shitty the multiplayer is in this game, you'd think it was made by an indie dev but an indie dev would probably have made better multiplayer tbh..
@@danlorett2184 I'm glad it did for you, nothing seems to fix my stuttering and disconnects. My computer should be able to run it... but it just doesn't. Played through every dark souls, bloodborne and sekiro, and that I can't play this is killing me. Hopefully at some point they optimise it a bit more.
Hey Scott, I had had a few ideas on how this build could be improved based on some ideas I've been playing with. While not strictly sorcery only, the Clayman's Harpoon makes for an extremely powerful addition to a mage's toolkit. It's got innate magic scaling yet can be buffed with scholar's armament, which lets it reach very high attack ratings on the basic spear moveset. I'm personally pushing well over 800 AR with the buff + flask at 60 int, and adding the versatility of an ash of war to a mage's already expansive array of options can allow it to deal with a much broader selection of builds. For instance, running storm stomp, which as you've mentioned is a decent tool in dealing with bloodhound step, could be used. The spear moveset also compliments the quick horizontal slashes of carian slicer quite well, especially considering that after a spear r1, you can transition directly into a chained carian slicer which comes out much more quickly. This overall helps the build hold its own when enemies close the gap from mid to close range. As well, I've found as an alternative to stars of ruin, star shower can accomplish the same function while being less blatantly overtuned and the added advantages of a lower FP cost and faster overall cast time. Without bloodhound step, it's very difficult to avoid taking any damage at long range, but has a more tangible drawback compared to stars of ruin in that it is much easier to dodge at mid to close range. This makes it a very strong finisher, especially since each individual projectile seems to do more damage compared to a shot of stars of ruin to compensate for firing less of them, which helps if you clip with a single star. It also works well with the same tools that synergize with stars of ruin, like magic glintblade or shard spiral. Let me know what you think, I'd be curious to your thoughts on the potency of these tools. -Thorn
Fought Fina a couple'a times in DS3. Hated every second of it. Love doing it to the others. Also, 277 damage on a Carian Slicer is still a massive improvement over the wet noodle that was the magic straightsword of faron or whatever it was called.
@@HomingAsatoMass I can't tell you how many people I caught with the farron flash sword into soul greatsword combo. Not a true combo but damn it was a great roll catch.
The only way I could ever use farron flashsword was as a mixup after whoever I was fighting got used to heysel > soul greatsword. So happy to see it being actually useful in ER
Y’all dissing farron flashsword but it was actually a super good spell. I saw great success with it in pvp & it had one of the highest dmg:fp ratios in the game for pve
As a mage main since ds2 pvp days i can confirm that cannon of haima, collapsing stars, and great ocular bubble are the big dick spells of the game. A great combo that i recommend is magic glintblade into great ocular bubble into collapsing stars to suck them into the bubble
I feel like SGS into Comet is just the Int version of Beast Sling into honed bolt. Just a solid spell combo. Some are even doing it into the lingering lighting. So the faith builds have the same combo style available. Seems intended. Feels good to pull of a combo that can be messed up. Slicer into piercer works too! Love the vids. I main pebble spear and alt arcane bloody helis as my two characters, both 150.
One thing I've been playing around with on my sorc build is actually the glintstone pebble AOW. It actually does crazy poise damage and has a great follow up charge. Pairs well with the cross-naginata as it lacks poise damage
It works on literally any build, it doesn’t scale off Int, it scales off the weapon upgrade level like almost all AOWs and you can nearly one-shot people with it with literally 0 int. The pebble also hitstuns long enough to confirm the follow up unless they use bloodhound step because BHS i-frames start before regular roll i-frames. It’s broken.
@@Sangheilitat117 Bloodhound step doesn't get any earlier s, it gets extra frames on the end. Dodges always have s at the very start and BHS doesn't reduce hitstun or anything.
@@jkws0 Go ahead and get a buddy and use glinstone pebble ash of war on him. He can’t dodge out of it normally before the followup, but he can bloodhound step out of it. Go ahead and try it and tell me they don’t start earlier.
It does scale off int (as well as weapon upgrade level), and the int scaling improves if you magic infuse your weapon. The base damage is incredibly high though, so it's very viable without int as you said.
I was that bow build you fought in this video I recognized my name and fashion that I was using at the time. you caught me just as I was learning bow in pvp, and testing what arrows work. love the videos, always learning new things. trying to know what things do, so I know when to plant and shot.
Personally to deal with Barrier of Gold I just have Law of Regression attuned on my sorcerer. Only has int requirement and not having enough faith for the seal doesn't matter since it still casts and removes all buffs in the vicinity
@@JJKiding He uses Lusat's for casting and has the Carian Glintstone Staff equipped since it passively boosts sword sorceries (Carian Slicer & Piercer, Adula's Moonblade)
10:05 I've actually found that super-heavy aggression basically limits the effectiveness of stars of ruin. Granted, I have way more experience with invasions right now than duels, but if I throw stars of ruin against an aggressive opponent, they tend to roll through it and chunk me for half my health.
@@komodo9452 I've actually stopped using Stars of Ruin in duels too. Reason is, I _still_ think it's overtuned in terms of how easy it is to inflict reliable damage with it. It's ass in invasions, but in duels, where people don't heal, it's just too strong.
Just some additional info that i've gleaned from running a similar build: Adula's seems to only hit multiple times on the first cast, which is why it does so much less damage when you combo it. it's also an example of a spell that's faster on the first cast than on the combo cast if you have max cast speed. Also, to beat Barrier of Gold I run Law of Regression on an offhand seal. You do not need the stats for the seal to cast Regression, just the stats for Regression itself (37 INT). It has a range into the next zipcode so typically i'll throw a few glintblades down to zone and cast regression to cancel barrier. I've had people quit when i use it but i feel that it's fair as i cast it during the duel and it's using a memory slot.
what seal would u recommend? im thinking of giant's seal as it has low requirement and has no skill, was thinking of putting an AOW on it, if possible?
@@steventheunis9546 you don’t need to reach seal requirements to be able to cast law of regression, so any seal with 0 weight is the best. If it turns out to be a bug that they patch, then the frenzy seal is the best as it has no faith requirements and weighs 0. Also you can’t put ashes of war on seals
@@Brntnugget thank you! on the wiki it says that Godslayers and Giant seals have "no skill" and dont specifically state that they cant be infused with AOW, altho neither that they can be infused too (usually any weapon on the wiki would state either can be or cant be infused). so this confused me
@@steventheunis9546 i just run dragon communion seal because i have it and it weighs nothing. i don't use it for anything but this one incant, and you don't need to match the stats on the seal to cast it
@@Brntnugget I don't think it's a bug, unless (if I remember correctly) they kept the same bug across all souls games. I think it only drastically lowered the effectiveness of the spell, but since it only applies a debuff and has a set timer, it really doesn't matter for it.
8:10 Dunno if you ever watch Zullie the witch, but recently she did a video on jumping in elden ring, and it turns out there are I-frames to jumping. It's only on the lower body however, so your arms can still get clipped which dip past the i-frames around the middle of the body. She also shows how you can 2 hand to have less of chance for arms to get clipped during jump dodging. Still would be latency dependent for dodging UGS stab, but something to keep in mind is that it'd be easier with arms up.
One strategy I’ve tried to develop is trying to move the glintblades off camera by counter-strafing my opponent. So far, it has worked surprisingly well, a lot of people just forget about the glintblades if they can’t see them.
Phina was a legend, inspired me to get a lot better as a hexer back in DS3. Nice to see someone else still sticking with their signature Homing Soul Mass backstep tactic
Law of Regression actually comes from the Golden Order Principia prayerbook in the Erdtree Sanctuary in Leyndell, idk if it's reachable after Farum Azula but it's probably worth checking. Gideon gives you Law of Causality
How to make Stars of Ruin and other sorceries with insane tracking bearable: make the tracking partially dependent on keeping the button constantly pressed down after the projectile was already launched. If you want to spam, you have low tracking, if you want high tracking, you can't spam.
22:17 Roll forward with the right timing on the first roll, and then do repeated follow-up forward rolls until the cast stops. You have to already be somewhat in close to take advantage of the arc of the projectiles.
The Carrian Phalynx trick has been around since DeS, love how you can set it up so easily with the Glintblade allowing you to either go aggrow or zone with the blade spells or ranged. Been pretty much fooling around with it for a bit now and feel like your conclusion on magic in this game is probably the best out of any of the soul series (and this is coming from someone who thought magic peaked at DaS2 but its kinda changing now to ER)
Law of Regression works against barrier of gold, but takes insanely long to get out. The only way you are safe from being punished is if you start casting it as soon as you see the other person buffing. Which kind of feels rude to your opponent who might've been casting golden vow or something else. Law of Regression is obtained from the book that it on a branch over ghost Godfrey arena as some people mentioned. Law of Regression also removes the following: -Opponent's Flask buffs (bye-bye infinite FP and feather crystal tear Bull-Goats) -Weapons' enchantments (even seppuku) -Stationary Buffs (Terra Magica, Starlight) -Your own flask and buffs Main downside of LoR is high FP cost. As mentioned before by other commenters, if you complete Hyetta's quest line you can get a Frenzy Flame Seal that has no requirements, but you can equip and cast Law of Regression with any seal without having to meet stat requirements. Not meeting requirements just borks the scaling on the seal (flat 60 scaling) which does not appear to affect Law of Regression functionality at all.
I've noticed that Adula's second cast (that also comes out when chaining out of swift glintstone) doesn't hit with the blade for some reason, only projectile, even in off-hand.
So I started this game as a full INT mage and got really discouraged in the 2nd half of the game. Mostly due to not building properly & finding or experimenting with other spells. 6 builds, couple NG+s and a platinum later and I’ve come back around to loving full mage. Your videos have really helped me utilize the spells in PvP. Thanks Scott 💯
Okay so I’m rocking an int/faith build which is really niche But I enjoy it since it’s throws off so many people. The least expect a build with so many magical attacks
I found out when trying your build that you don't need to meet the stat requirement's for seals to cast stuff with them. I can use the Finger Seal while not meeting the requirements and still cast Law of Regression.
I have found a lot of success with Glintstone Stars/Star Shower (Much cheaper FP wise options to stars of ruin and they cast faster so they can punish faster). But a low-key great option versus enemy casters has been Collapsing stars, it casts significantly faster than spells like Stars of Ruin or weapon arts like Sacred Relic Sword, does fantastic damage, always interrupts regardless of poise, and ignores Eternal Darkness, it also forces them closer to you and can set up combos with Glintblades or Carian Phalanx. Collapsing Stars also outranges Stars of Ruin significantly and its great for hiding followup spells like ambush shard, swift glintstone shard, carian piercer, Adula's, etc. Magic Downpour is also pretty good as the little magic bolts shoot at the target's direction, the ball tracks their movement, the shots deal decent damage, have decent range and the FP cost is pretty low at base 20. A stagger in the orb's AOE can easily chunk a player VERY quickly. Law of Regression on a frenzy flame seal is my favorite mage buff, the buff that removes ALL buffs. It has tremendous range (about the size of the Raya Lucaria dueling area) and removes other flasks, consumables, weapon buffs of any kind (to include Seppuku), temporary buffs like Exaltation of Rot/Blood, you can then drink your flask and have both. Stars of Ruin can also be effectively avoided by rolling first forward into the burst, then rolling laterally twice in opposite directions (ex: left then right, though latency usually means you take 1-2 of the 12 bolts). I recommend having bestial sling on even non-faith oriented builds (a 1 point investment for starting Vagabond) to be able to stop a caster from doing a followup cast of stars of ruin if they are trying to be spammy. Edit: Staff of Loss could also be a good consideration over the Carian Glintstone Staff for builds that want to focus more on blasting than using slicer/piercer, its a 30% buff to Night Comet (and shard i guess), so swift Glintstone shard into Night Comet for big damage punishes is a possibility.
For that first guy w/ barrier of gold: Slot in Law of Regression. You don't even need to meet the faith req for whatever sacred seal you choose to cast it with. Range is massive, and you'll screw over his buff!
26:35 Disconnects are not uncommon on PS4/PS5. I'd say 1 in 5 invasions either have midway disconnections or have an error as soon as you load into a world. It depends on the night, but it is nonetheless noticeable and disheartening. It would be fair to say that From Soft was not prepared for the server overload. I hope these issues are dealt with as soon as possible.
11:57 I believe the reason why he poised through the carian piercer was because of the ash of war he used called Storm Stomp...that's what i think it's called but most likely thats the reason that he had so much poise
Maybe you already know but due to the buffering you can input the backstep command and input the direction right after letting go of the backstep button. you only get some frames but your character basically starts the animation to backstep in one direction and you can literally turn 180 degrees in any direction and thereby chain backstepping in any direction you want. ive also been doing this with carian phalanx and its pretty fluent.
It genuinly feels so weird seeing you play a souls like game again. I've been watching you back since ds2, dont know if I was always subbed that long, but I've been watching
everyone used that tech back then. the thing is, backstepping in Elden ring is not as good anymore as in older souls games since apparantly it doesnt give i-frames anymore. its still good for this tech but u cant rly dodge attacks with it anymore.
@scott jund The poise at 12:00 is from the stamp ash of war. During that stomp the poise is through the roof almost completely guaranteeing the next hit in the aow will go off.
Heya Scott, small tip (even though you're maybe aware?) i was using this trick a lot in ds3 pvp, I was one of the few who mained purely sorceries, and it works here the same way. If you do phalanx and turn around quickly and then turn back again you send out the projectiles in waves rather than sending them out all at once. If you turn around quickly and turn back it only sends like 3 instead of all of them, so for example if you're backturned and you spin quickly twice you can send out three waves of projectiles from phalanx to an opponent, which is super good for resets. Once people realize what you're doing they won't want to approach you at all while doing this trick so it's nice if you want to chug blue estus. Thanks for the amazing content!
I always thought to myself if you played for honor and as soon as you mentioned conq I knew it also started watching your absolver stuff and it's sooooo good
it might be latency, but I've noticed that sometimes you can roll through the entirety of stars of ruin by rolling forward instead rolling backwards or sideways.
I really love the swift glintstone>comet combo, and swift glintstone > moonblade combo, to shorten cast times. And it seems like one of your opponents shortened a comet cast time with carian slicer like slicer>comet. I need to try incorporating a few of those into my own playstyle. P.S. Law of regression isn't from Gideon. I think you get it from a prayer book in Leyndell right above the Erdtree site of grace. I guess if you already set the tree on fire though you probably can't get it anymore.
5:00 I was scratching my head the entire time you mentioned the Sorcery-only player in DS3, not remembering them, until you showed the Phalanx backstep LOL
Any spell that can be chain cast, can be swapped into any other spell that can be chain cast, cancelling the initial startup time. It goes straight into whatever the 2nd cast would be. It is certainly not intended. It is simply coincidence that the spells look like it would be intended, they simply have similar casting animations.
Mages at this level are super skilled. I tried playing the same way, I switch my pure int build to a int/str one. I found that messing with spells and switching staffs based on spell for max scalling took way too much brain power during a duel. I wish eternal darkness was better, enemy spells should just disappear in it rather than orbit around it like most spells and incantations do. Be too far away from it spells home on to you rather than external darkness, if you're too close to your own external darkness enemy spells still have a chance to hit you.
A cool combo is glintblade, wait a sec and then adula. You're almost guaranteed to hit with the glintblade if they rolled through adula. It also works with piercer
I thought you were a magic player based on your name, but the shit hand analogy just sold it for me. Great video, clear communication and thinking. Sub.
scott idk if youll see this but im pretty sure if youre under the spot where stars of ruin was cast it becomes easier to avoid because some of the projectiles just dont curve enough to hit you so its way less to dodge if that makes sense
Little tip for Law of Regression, you don't need to meet the requirements of a seal to cast it as long as you have the int requirement for regression. At least I didn't meet the requirements of the erdtree seal to cast dragon bolt successfully. this was a mechanic in ds3 as well
After fighting a few stars of ruin spammers I can tell you that the spell is over rated, all you need to do is roll forward and kick ass. Works just fine.
I don't know, that feels like it would depend on the mage you fight. If all they rely on is Stars Of Ruin to apply the pressure and to kill you then they will obviously melt as soon as you are close but otherwise they still can attack with Carian slicer if you get close and melt you. Not to mention how easy it is to both retreat and do damage at the same time with the swift glintstone shard
I know this is a month old but as a dedicated pure sorcerer I feel obligated to still say it; the way Adulas moonblade worked was it wasn't only the left hand, it was also only the first cast where u get the double hit. So using the swift shard into moonblade only hit once as well. Moonblade was really broken back then haha, luckily now it doesn't matter what hand u cast in, and u can chain cast now. Poggies
Glitch works like this: If the first spell is chainable (slicer or dragon hand doesn't really matter) the second spell will skip the first part. There are two types of chainable spells, infinite and finite. Dragonclaw is finite and has 2 stages, Magma Breath too. Briars of Sin has 3 stages, the magic hammer 2. So if you are one cast deep into the first chain the second spell will skip to the second animation. If you are two casts deep into the first chain and the first chain goes deeper than 2 casts, the game tries to play the third part of the next cast. If this third part does not exist (Magma Breath, Hammer, Claw...) it skips the animation. If the third part does exist (Briars of sin or an infinite chain like slicer) it will skip to the third part. You cannot chain two different spellcasting tools into each other (like left hand catch flame into right hand magma breath) Imho some of this is intentional like Slicer into Moonblade. Claw into Breath seems dubious and missing animation is just a bug. I kind of wish they had done a bit more with spell chaining. For example, if you backstep via thrusting sword feint or quickstep carian slicer won't do the forward dash it usually does after a backstep. If you use raptor of the mists you won't be able to do a dragon breath midair. And in general more spells should be usable while jumping.
Law of Regression is from the tome you get from the Erdtree Sanctuary, no NG+ needed just go buy it from turtle-pope. And you can get the Frenzied Flame seal assuming you didn't kill Hyetta. It has no stat reqs.
@oohanalligator You can get the Golden Order Principia before it's ashen. You just have to climb the roots to get to the 2nd level of the Erdtree Sanctuary after the Godfrey shade.
Sorry if I missed it but is it possible for you to link a build calculator/planner (with specifics like which tears in physiks, etc)? the stats don't seem that difficult to narrow down but it might help to have more detail. @Scott Jund
@scott jund I have a question! why do you wear that hood i believe it has no effect. while there are helms with effect such as the rani witch hat that has a 10% buff on cold spells?
If I remember correctly, storm stomp gives A LOT of hyper armor/poise. Once you’re in the animation of the ash of war, you can tank through almost anything.
Is the 50% fp hit from lusats worth it? Is there something close without the extra fp penalty? extra 50% seems excessive unless the damage output justifies it.
The beastial sling thing is odd, if you cast magma wyrm after 1 sling, it works fine, after 2 slings it breaks, after 3 it's fine, after 4 it breaks, etc., etc. Or maybe it's the other way around but from what i can tell, it depends where your casting hand is.
I think you can simply use your Lusat staff only if you don’t mind the extra FP cost. The glintstone blade buff from the other staff should apply to all spells you cast as long as that staff is being held in either hand.
Thought you should know that you don't need Gideon for law of regression, his spell is law of causality. Law of regression is from the principa prayerbook in the chair above the ghost of godfrey/Gideon bossfight (Tho it might be gone since you lit the tree on fire)
It's still there. I've picked it up after burning the erdtree before, don't worry. The only loot you lose is the stuff in the lower city; the stuff up in the castle is fine. Only thing I'm not sure about is the incantations that are in the queen's bedchamber since they're in the same spot
im glad narrated thought duels are back, i have literally watched all of your NTD videos back in the good old DS3 days.. keep it up you absolute madman the video cathegory is "dark souls" 2011 release dunno if you care
Hey Scott! Love your vids! Quick question… Do you use your dpad to change what spell you have selected or do you have that bound to a different button?
In case no one's pointed it out, law of regression is in a prayerbook, which you can give to the turtle pope, so you dont actually have to go to new game plus
Why are you wielding 2 staves? Instead of like a weapon in your right hand and a staff in left hand? Does having 2 staves increases your overall magic damage or smthing? Thanks for the video btw :). Subscribed
To avoid Stars of Ruin like the guy at 22.00, he rolled directly underneath the cast point of your Stars. I’ve noticed that it has terrible tracking if your target is directly underneath. The stars either miss or hit the ground. That’s the only consistent way to avoid most of the damage. That or Erdtree Greatshield.
Scott, do you feel Radagon's Icon is not necessary? I keep it in my Leyndell rl70 invasion int build and I've wondered for a while if its actually worth the slot considering most of my damage is Carian Slicer/Piercer with main hand Magic Estoc. Not sure what else I would place in that slot tho, maybe Crimson Amber, but then it feels too cheesy running around with 1700 health in Leyndell when the average host has 800 health (but hit for a fuckton of damage). The reason I've kept Radagon's is that Carian Piercer has just about the right timing to roll catch a panic roll in the same way that UGS crouching R1 into Giant Hunt does.
Great vid! Really helpful to me as a sorcery main. Have you tried the "invisibility" sorceries, i.e. Night Shard and Night Comet? I've heard good things about them in PvP; would love to see how they actually work out.
If this was a level 150 build, would you theoretically pump those 25 points into dex for a slightly faster casting speed or would an investment at that level be relatively inconsequential compared to talisman/weapon buffs to casting speed?
thanks, you inspired me on this. i initially gave up on my mage when i realized i dont like spamming bullet hell on enemies in pvp. now this puts on another perspective on how to play mage without doing those BS moves.
Could you use like a lazuli glintstone sword to add some strong physical damage? Not sure if the weapon art would be enough to hurt someone with that buff. Might ig ruin the pure mage thing ig but curious
PS5 here. Sometimes the connection errors spiral out of control for hours on end, and other times it'll be mostly fine. Don't know why. Maybe it's related to the number of people online at any given moment, but that's pure speculation.
That extra point in Mind totally -over-undermin-d-es Scotts point and makes it invalid. (/sarcasm) 17:04 ~Uncle voice~ "Magic must defeat magic!" Thanks for the video Scott.
does the Carian glintstone staffs buff work on lusats? I'm trying to figure out why Scott is only using the lusats, even with the carian sword sorceries
Add starlight to the spell list. It’s got a hidden mechanic of reducing the Iframes of bloodhound step and makes you so much harder to see so you can cast your spellies loads of big damage wow.
"i dont think you need more than 30 mind"
immediately opens stats to show 31 mind, the comedic timing is extraordinary
I don't think it's a joke. He just tested it and noticed the extra point is useless.
The extra point is definitely from the helm hes wearing
thats from his helmet.
@@yungmalaria Pretty sure that's the Black Knife Hood, not the Navy Hood.
isnt it possible to just spam carian retaliation in response to stars of ruin?
Law of Regression is not from Gideon it's from the "Golden Order Principia prayerbook". Which is actually above the boss room you fight Gideon in, in like a hanging chair. Just gotta climb up there and grab it. And give to turtle pope
dude thanks so much for the info!
Came to here to say this lol, +1
You can also get it after defeating the first godfrey if anyone was wondering
@@evoltixproduty8704 regression specifically or the prayer book?
@@dariusduncan7255 thé book
26:00
“To say that I know everything is absolutely incorrect”
Gideon Ofnir: 🗿🗿🗿
And then ending on needing to NG+ to get Law of Regression from Gideon the All-Knowing... the 'know everything' arc really is perfect.
(You don't actually need Gideon or NG+, but the comedic throughline is really good)
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Nobody tell him.
Added "defeat Scott with a flail" to my list of things to do.
Bastard's Stars
Scott: you don't need more than 30 mind.
Also Scott: 31 mind... I'm a fraud.
Amazing. I chuckled
I could be wrong but I remember him saying "You don't need more than 30 mind unless maybe you're pure caster"
10:26 Holy shit I did not know that about adula’s moon blade I’ll keep that in mind next time I’m playing as my sorcerer
yo i didn't either that's nuts
Another thing is that the sword doesnt do damage after the first cast, only the wave does damage.
Which is it though? At first he said the sword only hits if staff in left hand. Then he says you'll do half damage if you can't it with staff in right hand? I assume the left one is the better one since I believe he said it more then once
@@kylebusc3624 it's been patched since this vid, makes no difference anymore
I use law of regression with pure sorcery and the frenzy flame seal doesn't have a faith requirement and it weighs nothing, so it fits pretty well in the set up.
Dont even need the faith requirement for seals to work, the requirement should just affect the inc scaling.
@@shikimori9467 you need the faith to actually cast I’m pretty sure
@@shikimori9467 nvm you’re right you don’t need the faith, however it’s a little less weight you don’t have to worry about.
Yeah Law of Regression still works even if u don't meet the requirements for the seal, but I will say it's really annoying for quick swapping cus of the pop-up xD so frenzy seal is still better for that.
@@Calimdir yeah I don’t like the red x lol, I just saw that it fit the bill too well so I use it in case I see barrier of gold
I had a mage-off with a guy who thought hiding under Eternal Darkness meant he won. What he failed to realise is that I DO run Cannon of Haima in duels and he just sat there and ate a nuke to the face.
I did not know that, I always run it in invasions for when a host hides on the roofs in liurnia
I'm running a quality caster an just run up to mid range and scarlet dragon the guy, or casts stars when they panic and run away from darkness.
Cannon is the gigachad of sorceries it belongs on every setup
@@cinders11037 I believe Gavel is the true Gigachad sorcery. I run a shield with parry on it. Parry enemy into Gavel is just so beautiful.
The Big Bang Attack of sorcery
For Law of Regression, the frenzied flame seal doesn’t have any faith requirements so you can use that without respecting any points. Of course, you’d have to have a character go through and unlock it, but I hope that helps
You can use any seal. Just like you can use other weapons without required stats (just won't get the scaling from that stat), you can also use seals and staves. You just need the required stat for the specific incant or sorcery to cast it. You'll have less incant scaling but if all you need to cast is law of regression it doesn't matter.
A bloodhound step spammer called me in for a duel a couple days ago and then proceeded to get 100-0'ed by the Zamor Ice Storm when he dashed in to hit me
interdasting
Bloodhound step lowers your IQ confirmed
bloodhounds step is stupid OP for PVP. needs a nerf tbh fam its super annoying.
They dash in and get Catch Flame'd
This is honestly one of my favorite builds that you showcased. Its just so fun to watch.
My friend, a full INT build user, fought the all-knowing dude and said to me “wow is fighting me that annoying?”
Yes, yes it is Baker Boys friend. it really is that annoying.
Mimic gets crazy too.
It was like fighting rennala
Yes. I hate fighting mages.
I try not to use Bloodhound Step, but I keep it just to fight against mages.
I dunno, mage on their own are harmless
Thrusting weapon are basically their counter
@@somechinesedude5466 I'm a mage who uses thrusting swords lol counter the counter with the counter
Just passing by to say you've become my favorite Elden Ring content creator, great job dude, love your videos.
wow what a closed minded take
@@tayw6466 bait
@@ritoTM I know it was likely bait but I felt like i needed to say something anyways, the world is crumbling around us and we all need to stand up for our beliefs
@@tayw6466 I know this is a year old but how is saying "I enjoy your videos you make good elden ring content" a closed minded take lol
@12:00 I believe his storm stomp must have started on his end before he got hit. The poise on storm stomp is insane. Don't think I've ever seen it staggered besides death.
Some things you can try that could potentially improve the build:
1) One strategy I like doing that has seen some success is aggressively chaincasting either swift glintstone shards or carian sword into glintblades. This is so you maintain close range pressure where they can't just run away to avoid glintblade frame trapping and often results in a lot of panic rolling.
2) Try out the helix sorcery (forgot what its actually called). The actual projectile damage is ass but it has very good tracking and takes up a lot of visual space so in that respect it's a more economical version of elden stars minus not having a horrendous cast time. I've used it to mask other spells, like setting up glintblades and also sneaking in chip damage by firing shards through the live projectiles every so often. Not that good if they're hyper-aggressive but I've found success doing this.
3) Law of regression can in some cases be a counter to barrier of gold if you're able to keep pressure on them before they have a chance to apply it again, especially if they're playing a non-caster setup where they'll most likely have far worse fp economy than you do. That and its just a nice utility to have to help deal with some cancer builds like seppuku dual nagis/havelmonsters abusing equip load flask and so forth.
Gotta say though pretty surprised how good magic is in this game even vs. decent players. You can actually defend yourself besides being from uganda and giving the opponent heart palpitations because they swore that spell landed like 20 seconds ago and they're just nervously waiting to see if they'll just drop dead instantly
23:35 "Was that fun? Was that an engaging duel? Did you learn anything from that? Of course not."
Yes, Scott. Yes, I did. Stars of Ruin is dumb is what I learned.
On PC it seems like one out of every four or five coop summons has either one or both phantoms disconnect. I've been doing a lot of helping with Godfrey because I think its a fun fight, but there are just so many disconnects. Its like some invisible monster just cuts the cord for one phantom, then 30s later I'll DC too.
I couldn't imagine how frustrating it'd be actually trying to coop through a zone.
As someone who plays mainly with my friends, we have to re do bosses at least 7-8 times just because of disconnects alone. It's embarrassing how shitty the multiplayer is in this game, you'd think it was made by an indie dev but an indie dev would probably have made better multiplayer tbh..
It's so, so frustrating.
If this happens to you, restart your game. I've run into this and restarting has fixed it every time.
@@danlorett2184 I'm glad it did for you, nothing seems to fix my stuttering and disconnects.
My computer should be able to run it... but it just doesn't. Played through every dark souls, bloodborne and sekiro, and that I can't play this is killing me.
Hopefully at some point they optimise it a bit more.
@@danlorett2184 Weirdly Dark souls 3 stutters badly now too despite it working fine beforehand.
Hey Scott, I had had a few ideas on how this build could be improved based on some ideas I've been playing with. While not strictly sorcery only, the Clayman's Harpoon makes for an extremely powerful addition to a mage's toolkit. It's got innate magic scaling yet can be buffed with scholar's armament, which lets it reach very high attack ratings on the basic spear moveset. I'm personally pushing well over 800 AR with the buff + flask at 60 int, and adding the versatility of an ash of war to a mage's already expansive array of options can allow it to deal with a much broader selection of builds. For instance, running storm stomp, which as you've mentioned is a decent tool in dealing with bloodhound step, could be used. The spear moveset also compliments the quick horizontal slashes of carian slicer quite well, especially considering that after a spear r1, you can transition directly into a chained carian slicer which comes out much more quickly. This overall helps the build hold its own when enemies close the gap from mid to close range. As well, I've found as an alternative to stars of ruin, star shower can accomplish the same function while being less blatantly overtuned and the added advantages of a lower FP cost and faster overall cast time. Without bloodhound step, it's very difficult to avoid taking any damage at long range, but has a more tangible drawback compared to stars of ruin in that it is much easier to dodge at mid to close range. This makes it a very strong finisher, especially since each individual projectile seems to do more damage compared to a shot of stars of ruin to compensate for firing less of them, which helps if you clip with a single star. It also works well with the same tools that synergize with stars of ruin, like magic glintblade or shard spiral. Let me know what you think, I'd be curious to your thoughts on the potency of these tools.
-Thorn
thanks thorn
I see that you have finally discarded the croissant crown! Fashion wins again!
No mushroom, no fashion.
I can’t bring myself to wear it on my Mage, it just looks so stupid
I like it with Radahns armor chest piece, it doesnt look that bad imo
I hate how stat efficient that helmet is, it looks so bad but it's literally 3 free levels
it's a pretty bird! it's beautiful! it makes me want to bother making an int character to use it appropriately
Fought Fina a couple'a times in DS3. Hated every second of it. Love doing it to the others.
Also, 277 damage on a Carian Slicer is still a massive improvement over the wet noodle that was the magic straightsword of faron or whatever it was called.
farron flashsword I think it was called, could've been so cool
@@Angels-Haven it was pretty nice tbh. Unlike carian slicer it can actually stun so that's a nice upside
@@HomingAsatoMass I can't tell you how many people I caught with the farron flash sword into soul greatsword combo. Not a true combo but damn it was a great roll catch.
The only way I could ever use farron flashsword was as a mixup after whoever I was fighting got used to heysel > soul greatsword. So happy to see it being actually useful in ER
Y’all dissing farron flashsword but it was actually a super good spell. I saw great success with it in pvp & it had one of the highest dmg:fp ratios in the game for pve
As a mage main since ds2 pvp days i can confirm that cannon of haima, collapsing stars, and great ocular bubble are the big dick spells of the game.
A great combo that i recommend is magic glintblade into great ocular bubble into collapsing stars to suck them into the bubble
I feel like SGS into Comet is just the Int version of Beast Sling into honed bolt. Just a solid spell combo. Some are even doing it into the lingering lighting. So the faith builds have the same combo style available. Seems intended. Feels good to pull of a combo that can be messed up. Slicer into piercer works too!
Love the vids.
I main pebble spear and alt arcane bloody helis as my two characters, both 150.
One thing I've been playing around with on my sorc build is actually the glintstone pebble AOW. It actually does crazy poise damage and has a great follow up charge. Pairs well with the cross-naginata as it lacks poise damage
Well it's also a broken AOW
It works on literally any build, it doesn’t scale off Int, it scales off the weapon upgrade level like almost all AOWs and you can nearly one-shot people with it with literally 0 int. The pebble also hitstuns long enough to confirm the follow up unless they use bloodhound step because BHS i-frames start before regular roll i-frames. It’s broken.
@@Sangheilitat117 Bloodhound step doesn't get any earlier s, it gets extra frames on the end. Dodges always have s at the very start and BHS doesn't reduce hitstun or anything.
@@jkws0 Go ahead and get a buddy and use glinstone pebble ash of war on him. He can’t dodge out of it normally before the followup, but he can bloodhound step out of it. Go ahead and try it and tell me they don’t start earlier.
It does scale off int (as well as weapon upgrade level), and the int scaling improves if you magic infuse your weapon.
The base damage is incredibly high though, so it's very viable without int as you said.
I was that bow build you fought in this video I recognized my name and fashion that I was using at the time. you caught me just as I was learning bow in pvp, and testing what arrows work. love the videos, always learning new things. trying to know what things do, so I know when to plant and shot.
Personally to deal with Barrier of Gold I just have Law of Regression attuned on my sorcerer. Only has int requirement and not having enough faith for the seal doesn't matter since it still casts and removes all buffs in the vicinity
wait REALLY lol?
The Problem is he gets 10 int + extra magic dmg from the flask
Hey, do you know why he get two staffs? and wich one he's uses to cast spells?
@@JJKiding He uses Lusat's for casting and has the Carian Glintstone Staff equipped since it passively boosts sword sorceries (Carian Slicer & Piercer, Adula's Moonblade)
@@dot_execute-0 I see, do you have to have equiped in your hand or just equiped?
10:05 I've actually found that super-heavy aggression basically limits the effectiveness of stars of ruin. Granted, I have way more experience with invasions right now than duels, but if I throw stars of ruin against an aggressive opponent, they tend to roll through it and chunk me for half my health.
Yeah, people who say it's unbeatable or undodgeable is doubtful. Granted I don't go against it often but never was it that bad for me.
@@komodo9452 I've actually stopped using Stars of Ruin in duels too. Reason is, I _still_ think it's overtuned in terms of how easy it is to inflict reliable damage with it. It's ass in invasions, but in duels, where people don't heal, it's just too strong.
@@komodo9452 Gotta love when people say "yea i have no experience with this subject but this guy who does is wrong"
Just some additional info that i've gleaned from running a similar build: Adula's seems to only hit multiple times on the first cast, which is why it does so much less damage when you combo it. it's also an example of a spell that's faster on the first cast than on the combo cast if you have max cast speed. Also, to beat Barrier of Gold I run Law of Regression on an offhand seal. You do not need the stats for the seal to cast Regression, just the stats for Regression itself (37 INT). It has a range into the next zipcode so typically i'll throw a few glintblades down to zone and cast regression to cancel barrier. I've had people quit when i use it but i feel that it's fair as i cast it during the duel and it's using a memory slot.
what seal would u recommend? im thinking of giant's seal as it has low requirement and has no skill, was thinking of putting an AOW on it, if possible?
@@steventheunis9546 you don’t need to reach seal requirements to be able to cast law of regression, so any seal with 0 weight is the best. If it turns out to be a bug that they patch, then the frenzy seal is the best as it has no faith requirements and weighs 0. Also you can’t put ashes of war on seals
@@Brntnugget thank you! on the wiki it says that Godslayers and Giant seals have "no skill" and dont specifically state that they cant be infused with AOW, altho neither that they can be infused too (usually any weapon on the wiki would state either can be or cant be infused). so this confused me
@@steventheunis9546 i just run dragon communion seal because i have it and it weighs nothing. i don't use it for anything but this one incant, and you don't need to match the stats on the seal to cast it
@@Brntnugget I don't think it's a bug, unless (if I remember correctly) they kept the same bug across all souls games. I think it only drastically lowered the effectiveness of the spell, but since it only applies a debuff and has a set timer, it really doesn't matter for it.
8:10
Dunno if you ever watch Zullie the witch, but recently she did a video on jumping in elden ring, and it turns out there are I-frames to jumping. It's only on the lower body however, so your arms can still get clipped which dip past the i-frames around the middle of the body. She also shows how you can 2 hand to have less of chance for arms to get clipped during jump dodging. Still would be latency dependent for dodging UGS stab, but something to keep in mind is that it'd be easier with arms up.
Perfect! I had just run out of narrated thought duels to watch
One strategy I’ve tried to develop is trying to move the glintblades off camera by counter-strafing my opponent. So far, it has worked surprisingly well, a lot of people just forget about the glintblades if they can’t see them.
Especially good against people turtling behind greatshields
Phina was a legend, inspired me to get a lot better as a hexer back in DS3. Nice to see someone else still sticking with their signature Homing Soul Mass backstep tactic
Law of Regression actually comes from the Golden Order Principia prayerbook in the Erdtree Sanctuary in Leyndell, idk if it's reachable after Farum Azula but it's probably worth checking. Gideon gives you Law of Causality
I got it in the ashen capital so yeah it's always available
that guy was for sure trying to look like Conqueror from For Honor. I was a conqueror main in FH so I was so happy to see that haha
How to make Stars of Ruin and other sorceries with insane tracking bearable: make the tracking partially dependent on keeping the button constantly pressed down after the projectile was already launched. If you want to spam, you have low tracking, if you want high tracking, you can't spam.
22:17 Roll forward with the right timing on the first roll, and then do repeated follow-up forward rolls until the cast stops. You have to already be somewhat in close to take advantage of the arc of the projectiles.
The Carrian Phalynx trick has been around since DeS, love how you can set it up so easily with the Glintblade allowing you to either go aggrow or zone with the blade spells or ranged. Been pretty much fooling around with it for a bit now and feel like your conclusion on magic in this game is probably the best out of any of the soul series (and this is coming from someone who thought magic peaked at DaS2 but its kinda changing now to ER)
Really happy to watch those videos again
Law of Regression works against barrier of gold, but takes insanely long to get out. The only way you are safe from being punished is if you start casting it as soon as you see the other person buffing. Which kind of feels rude to your opponent who might've been casting golden vow or something else.
Law of Regression is obtained from the book that it on a branch over ghost Godfrey arena as some people mentioned.
Law of Regression also removes the following:
-Opponent's Flask buffs (bye-bye infinite FP and feather crystal tear Bull-Goats)
-Weapons' enchantments (even seppuku)
-Stationary Buffs (Terra Magica, Starlight)
-Your own flask and buffs
Main downside of LoR is high FP cost.
As mentioned before by other commenters, if you complete Hyetta's quest line you can get a Frenzy Flame Seal that has no requirements, but you can equip and cast Law of Regression with any seal without having to meet stat requirements. Not meeting requirements just borks the scaling on the seal (flat 60 scaling) which does not appear to affect Law of Regression functionality at all.
I've noticed that Adula's second cast (that also comes out when chaining out of swift glintstone) doesn't hit with the blade for some reason, only projectile, even in off-hand.
So I started this game as a full INT mage and got really discouraged in the 2nd half of the game. Mostly due to not building properly & finding or experimenting with other spells. 6 builds, couple NG+s and a platinum later and I’ve come back around to loving full mage. Your videos have really helped me utilize the spells in PvP. Thanks Scott 💯
12:00 the reason he poised your Carian Piercer was because he used Storm Stomp.
Okay so I’m rocking an int/faith build which is really niche But I enjoy it since it’s throws off so many people. The least expect a build with so many magical attacks
I found out when trying your build that you don't need to meet the stat requirement's for seals to cast stuff with them. I can use the Finger Seal while not meeting the requirements and still cast Law of Regression.
I have found a lot of success with Glintstone Stars/Star Shower (Much cheaper FP wise options to stars of ruin and they cast faster so they can punish faster). But a low-key great option versus enemy casters has been Collapsing stars, it casts significantly faster than spells like Stars of Ruin or weapon arts like Sacred Relic Sword, does fantastic damage, always interrupts regardless of poise, and ignores Eternal Darkness, it also forces them closer to you and can set up combos with Glintblades or Carian Phalanx. Collapsing Stars also outranges Stars of Ruin significantly and its great for hiding followup spells like ambush shard, swift glintstone shard, carian piercer, Adula's, etc.
Magic Downpour is also pretty good as the little magic bolts shoot at the target's direction, the ball tracks their movement, the shots deal decent damage, have decent range and the FP cost is pretty low at base 20. A stagger in the orb's AOE can easily chunk a player VERY quickly.
Law of Regression on a frenzy flame seal is my favorite mage buff, the buff that removes ALL buffs. It has tremendous range (about the size of the Raya Lucaria dueling area) and removes other flasks, consumables, weapon buffs of any kind (to include Seppuku), temporary buffs like Exaltation of Rot/Blood, you can then drink your flask and have both.
Stars of Ruin can also be effectively avoided by rolling first forward into the burst, then rolling laterally twice in opposite directions (ex: left then right, though latency usually means you take 1-2 of the 12 bolts). I recommend having bestial sling on even non-faith oriented builds (a 1 point investment for starting Vagabond) to be able to stop a caster from doing a followup cast of stars of ruin if they are trying to be spammy.
Edit: Staff of Loss could also be a good consideration over the Carian Glintstone Staff for builds that want to focus more on blasting than using slicer/piercer, its a 30% buff to Night Comet (and shard i guess), so swift Glintstone shard into Night Comet for big damage punishes is a possibility.
For that first guy w/ barrier of gold:
Slot in Law of Regression. You don't even need to meet the faith req for whatever sacred seal you choose to cast it with.
Range is massive, and you'll screw over his buff!
26:35 Disconnects are not uncommon on PS4/PS5. I'd say 1 in 5 invasions either have midway disconnections or have an error as soon as you load into a world. It depends on the night, but it is nonetheless noticeable and disheartening. It would be fair to say that From Soft was not prepared for the server overload. I hope these issues are dealt with as soon as possible.
11:57 I believe the reason why he poised through the carian piercer was because of the ash of war he used called Storm Stomp...that's what i think it's called but most likely thats the reason that he had so much poise
Maybe you already know but due to the buffering you can input the backstep command and input the direction right after letting go of the backstep button. you only get some frames but your character basically starts the animation to backstep in one direction and you can literally turn 180 degrees in any direction and thereby chain backstepping in any direction you want. ive also been doing this with carian phalanx and its pretty fluent.
It genuinly feels so weird seeing you play a souls like game again. I've been watching you back since ds2, dont know if I was always subbed that long, but I've been watching
That backstopping homing soul mass combo is something I came up with in ds2 pvp,it makes me happy that the same teks can be performed 10 years later
everyone used that tech back then. the thing is, backstepping in Elden ring is not as good anymore as in older souls games since apparantly it doesnt give i-frames anymore. its still good for this tech but u cant rly dodge attacks with it anymore.
@scott jund The poise at 12:00 is from the stamp ash of war. During that stomp the poise is through the roof almost completely guaranteeing the next hit in the aow will go off.
Heya Scott, small tip (even though you're maybe aware?) i was using this trick a lot in ds3 pvp, I was one of the few who mained purely sorceries, and it works here the same way. If you do phalanx and turn around quickly and then turn back again you send out the projectiles in waves rather than sending them out all at once. If you turn around quickly and turn back it only sends like 3 instead of all of them, so for example if you're backturned and you spin quickly twice you can send out three waves of projectiles from phalanx to an opponent, which is super good for resets. Once people realize what you're doing they won't want to approach you at all while doing this trick so it's nice if you want to chug blue estus.
Thanks for the amazing content!
I always thought to myself if you played for honor and as soon as you mentioned conq I knew it also started watching your absolver stuff and it's sooooo good
it might be latency, but I've noticed that sometimes you can roll through the entirety of stars of ruin by rolling forward instead rolling backwards or sideways.
I really love the swift glintstone>comet combo, and swift glintstone > moonblade combo, to shorten cast times. And it seems like one of your opponents shortened a comet cast time with carian slicer like slicer>comet. I need to try incorporating a few of those into my own playstyle.
P.S. Law of regression isn't from Gideon. I think you get it from a prayer book in Leyndell right above the Erdtree site of grace. I guess if you already set the tree on fire though you probably can't get it anymore.
5:00 I was scratching my head the entire time you mentioned the Sorcery-only player in DS3, not remembering them, until you showed the Phalanx backstep LOL
Any spell that can be chain cast, can be swapped into any other spell that can be chain cast, cancelling the initial startup time. It goes straight into whatever the 2nd cast would be. It is certainly not intended. It is simply coincidence that the spells look like it would be intended, they simply have similar casting animations.
Mages at this level are super skilled. I tried playing the same way, I switch my pure int build to a int/str one. I found that messing with spells and switching staffs based on spell for max scalling took way too much brain power during a duel.
I wish eternal darkness was better, enemy spells should just disappear in it rather than orbit around it like most spells and incantations do. Be too far away from it spells home on to you rather than external darkness, if you're too close to your own external darkness enemy spells still have a chance to hit you.
Scott, another good thing to do is jump backward Swift glintstone. Excellent way to bait whiffs and punish people
A cool combo is glintblade, wait a sec and then adula. You're almost guaranteed to hit with the glintblade if they rolled through adula. It also works with piercer
I thought you were a magic player based on your name, but the shit hand analogy just sold it for me.
Great video, clear communication and thinking. Sub.
scott idk if youll see this but im pretty sure if youre under the spot where stars of ruin was cast it becomes easier to avoid because some of the projectiles just dont curve enough to hit you so its way less to dodge if that makes sense
Little tip for Law of Regression, you don't need to meet the requirements of a seal to cast it as long as you have the int requirement for regression. At least I didn't meet the requirements of the erdtree seal to cast dragon bolt successfully. this was a mechanic in ds3 as well
After fighting a few stars of ruin spammers I can tell you that the spell is over rated, all you need to do is roll forward and kick ass. Works just fine.
I don't know, that feels like it would depend on the mage you fight. If all they rely on is Stars Of Ruin to apply the pressure and to kill you then they will obviously melt as soon as you are close but otherwise they still can attack with Carian slicer if you get close and melt you. Not to mention how easy it is to both retreat and do damage at the same time with the swift glintstone shard
"Flais cannot be parried, inflict bleed but do strike damage! I will be invencible!" -Flail Guy, probably
@12:27 "...he got comet to the mouth"
Lyrical genius. No mercy. Putting tarnished on a blast. Who needs corpse when you can shit on their soul. 👍👍👍
I know this is a month old but as a dedicated pure sorcerer I feel obligated to still say it; the way Adulas moonblade worked was it wasn't only the left hand, it was also only the first cast where u get the double hit. So using the swift shard into moonblade only hit once as well. Moonblade was really broken back then haha, luckily now it doesn't matter what hand u cast in, and u can chain cast now. Poggies
Glitch works like this:
If the first spell is chainable (slicer or dragon hand doesn't really matter) the second spell will skip the first part.
There are two types of chainable spells, infinite and finite.
Dragonclaw is finite and has 2 stages, Magma Breath too. Briars of Sin has 3 stages, the magic hammer 2.
So if you are one cast deep into the first chain the second spell will skip to the second animation.
If you are two casts deep into the first chain and the first chain goes deeper than 2 casts, the game tries to play the third part of the next cast. If this third part does not exist (Magma Breath, Hammer, Claw...) it skips the animation. If the third part does exist (Briars of sin or an infinite chain like slicer) it will skip to the third part.
You cannot chain two different spellcasting tools into each other (like left hand catch flame into right hand magma breath)
Imho some of this is intentional like Slicer into Moonblade. Claw into Breath seems dubious and missing animation is just a bug.
I kind of wish they had done a bit more with spell chaining. For example, if you backstep via thrusting sword feint or quickstep carian slicer won't do the forward dash it usually does after a backstep. If you use raptor of the mists you won't be able to do a dragon breath midair.
And in general more spells should be usable while jumping.
Law of Regression is from the tome you get from the Erdtree Sanctuary, no NG+ needed just go buy it from turtle-pope.
And you can get the Frenzied Flame seal assuming you didn't kill Hyetta. It has no stat reqs.
@oohanalligator You can get the Golden Order Principia before it's ashen. You just have to climb the roots to get to the 2nd level of the Erdtree Sanctuary after the Godfrey shade.
Sorry if I missed it but is it possible for you to link a build calculator/planner (with specifics like which tears in physiks, etc)? the stats don't seem that difficult to narrow down but it might help to have more detail. @Scott Jund
man I watched every single one of your DS3 thought duels, love that they are back!
@scott jund I have a question! why do you wear that hood i believe it has no effect. while there are helms with effect such as the rani witch hat that has a 10% buff on cold spells?
If I remember correctly, storm stomp gives A LOT of hyper armor/poise. Once you’re in the animation of the ash of war, you can tank through almost anything.
Is the 50% fp hit from lusats worth it? Is there something close without the extra fp penalty? extra 50% seems excessive unless the damage output justifies it.
The beastial sling thing is odd, if you cast magma wyrm after 1 sling, it works fine, after 2 slings it breaks, after 3 it's fine, after 4 it breaks, etc., etc.
Or maybe it's the other way around but from what i can tell, it depends where your casting hand is.
Magic glintblade is easily one of my favorite spells in the game. You can play some serious mind games with it.
I think you can simply use your Lusat staff only if you don’t mind the extra FP cost. The glintstone blade buff from the other staff should apply to all spells you cast as long as that staff is being held in either hand.
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This is my Favorite of your builds
Thought you should know that you don't need Gideon for law of regression, his spell is law of causality. Law of regression is from the principa prayerbook in the chair above the ghost of godfrey/Gideon bossfight (Tho it might be gone since you lit the tree on fire)
It's still there. I've picked it up after burning the erdtree before, don't worry. The only loot you lose is the stuff in the lower city; the stuff up in the castle is fine. Only thing I'm not sure about is the incantations that are in the queen's bedchamber since they're in the same spot
@@HeavenlyHavoc ah, that's good to know, thanks
Oh shit ty
8:42 RAH!
8:47 Te occidam
8:53 Summarised reaction to Conqueror's rework in Testing Grounds
im glad narrated thought duels are back, i have literally watched all of your NTD videos back in the good old DS3 days..
keep it up you absolute madman
the video cathegory is "dark souls" 2011 release
dunno if you care
Hey Scott! Love your vids! Quick question… Do you use your dpad to change what spell you have selected or do you have that bound to a different button?
Couldn't you use the Frenzied Flame Seal to cast Law of Regression, since it doesn't have any stat requirements to equip?
In case no one's pointed it out, law of regression is in a prayerbook, which you can give to the turtle pope, so you dont actually have to go to new game plus
love the vids man, would be very intrested in a mage invade build.
Why are you wielding 2 staves? Instead of like a weapon in your right hand and a staff in left hand? Does having 2 staves increases your overall magic damage or smthing? Thanks for the video btw :). Subscribed
To avoid Stars of Ruin like the guy at 22.00, he rolled directly underneath the cast point of your Stars. I’ve noticed that it has terrible tracking if your target is directly underneath. The stars either miss or hit the ground. That’s the only consistent way to avoid most of the damage. That or Erdtree Greatshield.
Scott, do you feel Radagon's Icon is not necessary? I keep it in my Leyndell rl70 invasion int build and I've wondered for a while if its actually worth the slot considering most of my damage is Carian Slicer/Piercer with main hand Magic Estoc. Not sure what else I would place in that slot tho, maybe Crimson Amber, but then it feels too cheesy running around with 1700 health in Leyndell when the average host has 800 health (but hit for a fuckton of damage).
The reason I've kept Radagon's is that Carian Piercer has just about the right timing to roll catch a panic roll in the same way that UGS crouching R1 into Giant Hunt does.
Thanks for the content! What is your reasoning on forgoing Radagon Icon and/or dex for cast speed? Just not enough faster for the investment?
Great vid! Really helpful to me as a sorcery main.
Have you tried the "invisibility" sorceries, i.e. Night Shard and Night Comet? I've heard good things about them in PvP; would love to see how they actually work out.
If this was a level 150 build, would you theoretically pump those 25 points into dex for a slightly faster casting speed or would an investment at that level be relatively inconsequential compared to talisman/weapon buffs to casting speed?
thanks, you inspired me on this. i initially gave up on my mage when i realized i dont like spamming bullet hell on enemies in pvp. now this puts on another perspective on how to play mage without doing those BS moves.
Could you use like a lazuli glintstone sword to add some strong physical damage? Not sure if the weapon art would be enough to hurt someone with that buff.
Might ig ruin the pure mage thing ig but curious
PS5 here. Sometimes the connection errors spiral out of control for hours on end, and other times it'll be mostly fine. Don't know why. Maybe it's related to the number of people online at any given moment, but that's pure speculation.
star shower is a decent alternative to stars of ruin. definitely less powerful but applies the same continuous pressure
Frenzied flame seal doesn't have any stat requirements so u could use that for LoR and leave your stats unchanged.
You can actually still cast law of regression with a seal you don’t meet the requirements for and the effect will still take place
That extra point in Mind totally -over-undermin-d-es Scotts point and makes it invalid. (/sarcasm)
17:04 ~Uncle voice~ "Magic must defeat magic!"
Thanks for the video Scott.
does the Carian glintstone staffs buff work on lusats? I'm trying to figure out why Scott is only using the lusats, even with the carian sword sorceries
Add starlight to the spell list.
It’s got a hidden mechanic of reducing the Iframes of bloodhound step and makes you so much harder to see so you can cast your spellies loads of big damage wow.
Lol they should actually buff it so when starlight is intinally cast it flash bangs everyone around you
The tone when you said "I'm a fraud" made me chuckle