I Took A Cruise With A European Cruise Line And I Will Never Go Back (I Was SHOCKED)
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Why are blacks so Sensitive the first thing they feel is that they don’t like me because I’m black I just don’t get it. Blacks
are also racists also. What about Rev. Al and Jesse Jackson don’t forget grand daddy of the all Rev Farrakhan
It’s good and bad in everybody
in all race’s. You need to chill out and besides you don’t pay for these cruises anyway so what are you complaining about?
@The Shiplife Hey, and I watch your videos from time to time. I recently got hired to work for a cruise line as a deckhand and would love to tell you about my experience. The cruise line I am working for is American Queen Voyages
I think it would be hilarious if you learned Brazilian Portuguese and key other languages and then tossed a British type comment back that made them realize what fools they be. I just can't think of what that line would be. When people have said negative things about me, I've simply said "blessings" to them and moved on.
@@tpkyterooluebeck9224 The only problem because somebody was nasty to him and his girl he’s judging everybody on the cruise ship for one person. Besides he’s gonna make more videos and this guy will be going back on this cruise line because he wants to make money on TH-cam! Don’t believe everything you hear from him. He likes Carnival cruise lines try going to night club and see If you don’t get punch out! This guy is a fake phony fraud. That’s why he got fired for working on Norwegian cruise line! This guy is so full of BS you have to laugh when you watch his videos🤣
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Thank you Shiplife! I am cancelling!
I’m so sorry for your terrible experience. It’s unacceptable. I’m Hispanic and have experienced plenty of racism in my life and it’s awful and it’s upsetting. I have my first trip on MSC in a few months and disappointed on the negative issues. I travel a lot in NCL and Royal. Thank you for the amazing video.
How was your trip? I’m interested in a Jan cruise and need feedback after watching this vid. I’m nervous!
@@firebomber221yes, I'm thinking twice about it now! Maybe leaving from NY won't be so bad, so I might still give it a try.
Yes, very unacceptable, awful and upsetting. Let us know how the cruise was for you. Thank you.
The fact there is a whole subgenre of youtube focusing on shipcruises is just one of those things I greatly enjoy about the internet.
Me too!
And I’ve traveled a lot- but never on a cruise!
Thank you for speaking out about the racism. I am Black American who travels internationally, and there is still alot of racism in the world. Sorry you had to deal with that, no need to downplay what happened to you. It's very important for your Black American viewers who may take that cruise
Totally agree. One of the reasons I follow this channel is to see his perspective as a fellow black traveler.
100% agree. I’m a black female traveler and I follow this channel because it’s one of the more prominent cruise channels from a black person’s perspective. So glad this is being discussed
Exactly... solo African American traveler here, so trusted experience is everything.
Thanks for the heads up about the black experience on cruise ships.
Just got off the MSC and I was not happy at all. Most definitely racism
Bro I’m a travel agent and I had some clients go on there and they felt the same way, especially from the crew. You don’t have to explain or justify how you feel because no one can tell you how you feel. Sorry for you experience on there. But the everything you said from the food and the treatment that you experienced a lot of people are saying the same thing. I refused to sell it because I don’t want deal with complaints.
I recently went on Royal Caribbean- Spain,Italy. I saw many VERY YOUNG "ladies?" 24:21 with their parents (un)dressed very inappropriately. Even saw a girl with a mammoplasty!! I am a nurse of years, and love the human body, but what are these parents thinking?
Coming from a middle-aged white suburban dude in a mostly white area, I think you are a kickass dude. You seem like an awesome person and I love your content man. Keep up the good work and don't worry about that nonsense. Can't fix ignorance sir! Kudos to you for keeping your cool! Happy sailing friend!
As a Brazilian I can tell that what you said about what dealt with the Brazilian group is very typical and at the same time shameful. I’m very sorry you had to go through that. Unfortunately a lot of ignorant and racist people feel entitled to spew their bs, regardless of where they are. Sucks
Most Brazilians looks African so I'm confused why they did that to him..ahhh they white Brazilians... Whites in every race are nasty humans
They must’ve been from Santa Catarina or São Paulo
Yeah Brazil is super racist. Alot of KKK live there
Don't worry, I'm a white American and I'm really racist against Brazillians.
Y’all better talk to them before we return the favors
As an Italian I am embarrassed to hear you were treated badly by Italians, but sadly I do not doubt you for a second. Just know you are far more worldly and intelligent then they are. Prayers it is the last time you need to endure such treatment.
I didn't know that Italians were like this
@@stephaniepope2786yes I was bullied by Italians too! We were all on a tour to see Grand Canyon and the women would not stop glaring at us. I think they were also miffed that not a single Italian could speak English but all the Asians (Singaporean, Indians and Chinese americans) could. I could understand them pointing at the Grand Canyon and laughing that it was a toilet as it sounded similar enough to Spanish. Imagine coming to someone else’s country to bully them. Ick
@@stephaniepope2786OH yeah they are. My friend went on a Mediterranean cruise and they stopped in Italy and she said the Italian people were very racist. That's odd because they are olive skinned which means there is some black way back in that race.
Most Italians have nappy hair big noses and are dark..so I find it hilarious that they don't like black people 😂
@workovereasy
This Literally! I can't stand a mofo who is acting racist while visiting my city. The Karenicity of it all...
After listening to this presentation in the background, my husband (who I didn’t know was listening) said something to the affect that we won’t be going on that cruise line. We are retired and have been going on world cruises for the last several years and have never experienced anything like you described. I’m truly sorry that you and Lauren experienced such shallow people.
They not shallow they are animals only animals think how racist think. And I think all racist people should live in the jungle with the animals they act like
What did the animals ever do to you? 😢
@@Debsaok u mean (animals) racist white people 😂😂😂they did lots
Great! 👌🏻
@@janaeguzman4919After you. You lead the way. You go first. 🫵🏻🤡🥴
It is SO refreshing to hear someone speak up about what you saw concerning children. I hope the ones you mentioned are safe! ❤
Much respect to you for addressing the 'P' and 'R' issues. I'm not big fan of cruises so I'm living vicariously through your videos and experiences.
We’ve been looking at trying new cruise lines for 2023. We hadn’t heard great things about MSC and this review has solidified That they are off the list. As a Black American family it raises too many red flags. Thank you for your honest perspective and review.
I am a white American and I wouldn't sail MSC after hearing this either because I wouldn't want to be around such ignorant people. I just don't undetstand the mentality of these young Brazilian women, to say such things to anyone, let alone someone they don't even know, so sad. There are far better cruise lines with people who don't act this way.
Traveling while Black is a special skill. Our travel experiences, both positive and negative, must be shared. This information is crucial. WE need this knowledge in order to have safe and enjoyable travel experiences. This is why I watch and support this channel. You remind me of my father. He taught us how to travel. J, you are like continuing education for me. Not only do you inspire older African American travelers like myself, but you inspire and educate OUR younger generation to claim their right to experience the world. Thank you!!!
Well said. Reminds me of the days of The Green Book.
The world is filled with hate filled people. Luckily they are a minority. Ignore them!
You’re correct. My wife is black and my head was on a swivel making sure she was protected after going to the Carribean and Italy the past 4 months.
It’s not something that white people really think about until we get close. Then I look around, “My wife is the only black woman on the bloody deck/resort.”
Then protector mode comes in, and I start the mean mugging and staring back at the older people that are staring at us. Most of them aren’t bout anything when you retaliate lol. We just started owning it. We have an audience of eyes waking into a room, so we started giving them a show. Extra and flamboyant. 😂
Absolutely. While I've rarely encountered racism here in East Asia, it could be that I tend to mingle with locals. I'm proud to see so many level-headed reactions and responses to this video and shared experiences in the comments. Productive people don't have time to be racist; let's live our lives while we live rent-free in theirs.
What I do find sometimes is that the Europeans are very reserved. We Americans talk to anyone we meet for the first time and we are always polite. Europeans do not do that with strangers. And generally you will find that is the case in almost every country except the US. That is one good quality we have. Now, when you befriend them, they will be your closest friends and will help all then can. They will invite you to dinner at their home unlike us Americans who only do that at Thanksgiving and Christmas.
The Philippines has the most friendly people. But they too are very shy with talking to strangers for the most time. So for me in my past I have misjudged some folk as being prejudiced, but once we started talking i found them to be very caring friendly people.
But I am sure there are some that may indeed be very prejudiced.
Wow!!!! This review it’s amazing. I haven’t cruise with MSC but with this review I don’t think I will. The minor stuff that really creeps me out. I always took my girls but I was always watching them and they knew their places as of where they were allowed to be. It’s crazy as many things can happen on a cruise.
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Appreciate your insight. I’m a Native American “homebody”….and half my friends & family (researching cruises) are Native American, too. A cruise will be a big gathering for us. Getting together (on a cruise) we hope for a good experience!
I am a white 64 year old White woman, and I hate Racism, I Love Your Videos, I am Scared to death to Fly or Go on a Cruise, But I enjoy listening to you, you and your girl friend are adorable, Stay safe my Friend,From Louisville Kentucky ,
I always remember the great story of some "Karen" on a flight, complaining that it was intolerable for her to be seated next to a black man and something must be done, at once! The cabin crew member intervened and agreed, saying "Sir, this is an intolerable situation - for you. If you would please come with me, we have a spare window seat up in first class you can enjoy, and would you care for some champagne before dinner?"
Be careful using the " Karen" name all the time because it effects me because that is my name as much as it would effect you with racial insults......It also triggers me because all my kids are adopted and none are white like my husband or I. It's hard to be racist when your family looks like The United Nations.
I remember that story about the Karen & the passenger. It was something.
Please choose a name other than Karen. You see my beloved older sister died and I feel upset using her name negatively. Racism is more than skin color.
@@kathynolek1273 I will use whatever name I want. Condolences.
You complain about racism but use the name Karen the same way others might use other derogatory names for racism. The irony and hypocrisy is amazing.
As a biracial man in an interracial marriage. I thank you for your review. I will be staying far away from MSC. Bad food, racism, bad service, and creeps? I’m out
And lots of speedos (from the tiny video clip). Lmfao.
@@mackdeen7021 This is true Mack! 😆
Just saw a video where a male crewmember on an MSc ship was hiding in a stall in the ladies room in a kids area! He was taking videos. Kids could have been filmed! MSc is a no for me.
@@mackdeen7021 I saw that!
What baffles me is how many people are like “sure, why not? Seems fun. “. We live in the bizarro world.
Thank you! I have been taking so much heat for my video saying this was the worst cruise I have ever taken, but I stand by that and think the video speaks for itself.
I have been constantly discriminated against for being physically disabled despite having a normal outward appearance (aka invisible disabilities) and can definitely empathize with others facing the same hatred. Ultimately, that horrible mindset ruins businesses and individuals reputations, especially when you file a formal complaint against them that can result in big legal problems. Karma exists.
same here!
I'm Italian. I can understand where you feel that way. We're not all stupid. The culture doesn't allow regular italians to be open to different people. Being Italian we are prideful and full of ourselves for the most part. Sorry you had that experience. I enjoy your reviews. Very informative
My Auntie Lucia and Italian friends prove that not all Italians are racist also.
You would love the Carnival Venezia 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Most Italians are dark with nappy hair and big noses 😂 so them not liking black people is hilarious 😂
The cultures indeed DOES allow you to be open to other people. Some of you simply chose not to be.
I lived in Naples Italy for 3 years, definitely agree with you!
I'm from the UK. I only travelled with them once and I found it strange having children in bars and clubs late at night. It felt more like a kindergarten. There is a time and place for children.
It's because it's a holidays for family's can't exactly leave Ur kids in the room unless u want another Madeline mcann case
I think the racism is a bigger deal breaker.
Oh, yes. Like ON THE ROAD in the U.S., right? Sixteen year olds driving is OK, but having them drinking on a holiday is bad?
@@danmcdowall5492 they should be sleeping
What happens when that child lies about their age and then someone takes them back to their cabin, who's that on...
I’m happy you shared your experience! I was looking for reasonably priced cruises and considered MSC very briefly. I went with my gut and chose RC over the potential savings. So happy that I did! Please continue to make these videos we appreciate you!
I am so glad that you shared all this information. I was pondering giving the MSC line a try, but now after hearing all this I changed my mind, and no way will I do so!
I’ve been in an interracial relationship and regularly take my biracial niece on trips, outings, and around town. I’ve been doing it since she was a baby and she’s now a teenager and I love taking her places when I travel for work. We’ve been to LA, NYC, DC and other places in the US but I’m reticent to take her internationally for exactly the reasons you bring up. I work for a company with employees from around the world and it’s surprising how much racism there are in some places. Northern Europe seems to be fine but the rest of the world, not so much. At least when you go to China and some other spots in Asia, they don’t like any of us. They aren’t discriminate in their discrimination.
I'm a white dude and got stink eye all over in Japan
Chinese and Japanese don't like anyone except Chinese and Japanese, and even they don't like each other.
@@hankhillsnrrwurethra what's that ??
@@hankhillsnrrwurethrawow!!
Come on,, don't let fear controls you, what's the worst you expect? Seriously the worst that'll happen to you is getting called racial slurs, ignore it, nobody cares. Most of the world is not openly racist.
It's nice that you said something about race. I know how hard it is sometimes to be black and then also speak your truth and not come off as a person who's needy or just complains about everything. I just know I'm not going to have a good time if I go somewhere and I stand out. It's hard enough just being gay but imagine being black and then trying to just go on and enjoy yourself. I need to know these things. Also I understand how hard it is to be in an interracial relationship. Especially when you only speak English and everybody else speaks different language and so you have to hear all these negative things from your partner.
Thank you for this review. My 3friends and I went on MSC last year. It was horrible from being harassed to get additional upgrades to being told after waiting 1 and 1/2 hours for our dinner we upgraded to. We were told it was because we were “10mins late, as ppl like us tend to be”. As black women we had to be careful of our body language and “attitude” because we will quickly be called angry. We had ppl cut us off in lines and get ignored. The staff at the sports bar was amazing!! That where we stayed because that’s where we were comfortable
@Brittany Samuel Wow! That was horrible..
You should have asked for your money back at the end of the cruise because you pay to enjoy yourself, not to get abused and torrured.
No offense…Not all people of color tend to be late… you have to speak for yourself…sorry you had a horrible experience..
I had considered MSC for Greek cruise but 4000 plus people is too large for comfort. Personally, cruises with compacities 2000 are my choice. As a matter of fact 700 and under is even better for better services. Just pay the extra money and you will be much more satisfied.
@@symone3113 quotes there meaning that's what the person was saying to them .
What I liked about this review, is that you looked at it not only from a personal standpoint., But also as a former Cruise line professional , as a crew member yourself.
You were being honest and I commend you for that
The MSC Seascape was my and my husband’s first cruise. My husband is black (I’m half back and Filipino) and of course Americans. We also felt the racism throughout the ship from the passengers which created a such a terrible energy and vibe. However, a couple days within, it started feeling less hostile and were blessed to meet so many different wonderful people. My favorite people were the bartenders.
thats shitty, im sorry to hear that. Between the racism, the pedophiles, the okay food i guess ill stay with NCL and pay a little more
I see you have to get drunk just to like the people around you. Sad that racism still exist in the 21st century. People like that are very uneducated, slow and have a close mind.
What a great video! I am a 1-time cruiser of MSC Divina. I love cruising but unfortunately I was not prepared for the amount of kids running around without supervision on this ship. They were taking over the pools, pushing and shoving and touching everything in the buffet. As a person who has a slight mobility issue, I felt like I could be knocked over at any moment. As you said, not many were Americans on board. Being a Canadian, this behaviour caught me off guard. We haven't been back on MSC and I doubt we will be after your video.
I sailed the seascape over Christmas and encountered the same thing with kids in inappropriate places. As for the elevators, they were a nightmare for my father who was traveling in a wheel chair. And other passengers were incredibly rude about making space, especially during the muster drill. MSC has a long way to go before I sail them again
From a list of “never do” for cruisers: don’ t take a cruise over Christmas.
Imagine their faces when Melanin at Sea takes over in November 😂
😂🤣😅
What's the dates in November pls? Thku
Nov 18 2023 to Nov 25 I believe
I love that!
They’re gonna kick all those whiners off.
This Canadian agrees with you. It would be hard for me to hold back and to not say anything if I watched a preteen leave with an unrelated adult. It's up to the ship to ensure all their passengers are safe, including the pre 18 year olds and restricting them from some venues would do it. Thanks for the heads up.
I add that whatever flag the ship sails under and whatever law applies to the minor in theirs, it is your own country's law that applies to you. Aside from Romeo & Juliet laws for minors 14-17 within 3 years for Canada age difference it is 18+ consent laws here. And people who mess with kids are not liked in prison here either and no one wants to find out 1st hand what will happen to ' goofs' in Canada if in general population. Though I can't allow myself to condone violence against anyone in retribution I can admit I am not so high minded as to say I'm going to lose any sleep over their fates. 24/7 isolation should be an option for them is as far as I go! The jail time is supposed to be the punishment. Sickening people in the world.
When I was a kid in Jamaica at a luxury resort I used to see all the time Jamaican men pickup underage British girls to take them to bed. The men used to set it up after the parents went to bed. I'm sure it happens on other islands as well.
Save yourself the hassle and stress, and stay in your lane. It's the parents responsibility to supervise their kids.
@@Ozzy_2014 actually Consent law in Canada has been 16 yrs for a while now and 18 if it pertains to trust & authority situations. The "close in age exception" for 14 & 15 yr olds is less than 5 years difference between them. Honestly, I don't even think most of the younger ones today have the ability to decide anything even at 20y -25y. I've never seen so many that have temper tantrums if they don't get their own way & everything is a fantasy world to them.
As a Canadian maybe you should push to stop flights to Cuba, because underage "escorts" is a big reason for traveling to Cuba.
Thank you for sharing your observations. As soon as I read the title (only) on my lock screen, I immediately thought, "this must be about MSC".
Also in an interracial marriage and over the 23 years we've been together, we've experienced our fair share of racially charged "stuff". We decided to give MSC a try a few years back. Our experience was similar, and bad enough that we made the decision to never cruise on them again.
We have maintained that and your video confirmed for me that we are/were not alone in our sentiments. Thank you once more for sharing.
Hopefully others will have different, better experiences. And for them, I'll be happy. I however, will not give them a chance to change my mind.
I have now read more comments and am absolutely appalled by what's been experienced on this cruise line, since years ago! Well, I no longer wish to try them out! Thank you again for sharing your experience!
I'm so sorry you had such a bad experience :( no one has the right to treat anyone so poorly and to make jokes about someone's race. The minor stuff was also uncomfortable. Ugh! Thank you for sharing your experience with far more respect and maturity than the situations deserved ♥️ I hope you and Lauren's family have a better experience traveling together in the future
It's not just a racial thing. I know a white guy that married a Brazilian woman and she left him as soon as she got her green card. Not saying that all Brazilian women are like that, but it is not an uncommon practice and way of thinking for some of them.
Feel the same! So disgusting!
@@bossbeachbum whoa
I am from England and took a cruise on MSC Presiosa with my disabled husband. We had requested a table for two in mdr which never materialised. The Maitre de told me if I wanted to upgrade my cabin then he would guarantee me a table for two. We ended up never eating in the main dining room and did speciality dining and buffet for the whole cruise. That was just the start. We were left in the rain at a port whilst every one else boarded the ship. My husband was so cold it took ages for me to warm him up. I complained to their head office but received no reply and on phoning them they said they could do nothing about the way we were treated. We will Never cruise with them again.
Not taking Costa or MSC. Period. They do have some great itineraries that the US lines do not do though. Why cant the US match them. PS Cant stand the smoking. When will the Europeans learn.
Wow! I am so sorry that you got treated like this, especially when your husband id disabled. No one should go through an experience like this.
Disabled and Left in the rain at a port! That is appalling!!!!!!!! I have never cruised on MSC but after hearing this honest review and reading some stories like yours I will never ever book a trip on their line. Absolutely disgusting
So sorry to hear that 😔 that's awful
Big cruises are like a big mall. You have everything on board. Don’t do it if you think being crammed in with all walks of life for seven days is not for you.
Thank you so much for sharing this situation that happened to you on MSC ship. I was originally scheduled to do a Mediterranean MSC Musica cruise this May but changed my mind and cancelled the cruise. I would be going on this cruise solo and my gut feeling was telling me not to go...so I went with my gut feeling. I'm so glad I did after hearing your situation!
I was 5+ times on MSC and as a Romanian, i had no problems at all.
Ouch 😮 I was on MSC in January and had a somewhat different experience. I really appreciate your perspective because I didn’t do any specialty dining or clubbing. As a Black woman married to a Puerto Rican man, I don’t run into any crazies… thankfully. There were actually lots of brown people on our sailing, but the international crowd wasn’t very friendly. Especially compared to the crowds on NCL and RCCL.
The life guards did a great job at keeping kids out of the adults only pool area, there were endless activities/fun for the whole family, my teen loved the water slides and Robotron. We didn’t see a ton of teens running wild, however my eyes were on my kids who were not at any clubs or bars.
We used the Aurea Spa Thermal Area and it was fabulous! It had every amenity that you could ask for and a good way to escape the crowd.
✨ My daughter has food allergies and this is the best experience that we have ever had. ✨ I would highly recommend MSC for this reason alone. They were so polite and accommodating that words cannot describe their service. My daughter’s food was always correct and she had a special desert every night. Additionally, the buffet was full of fresh healthy food so she did not have to request anything special for lunch. There were plenty of fruits/veggies, grilled meats that were separated from the seafood, plain rice, baked potatoes, pizza with no cheese as well as non dairy dessert options like jello.
We went to one show and left. We were not impressed with the entertainment. It definitely does not compare to Kinky Boots and Choir of Man on NCL’s Encore or The Book on The Odyssey of the Seas.
I was on MSC Seascape 7 day cruise last week. My husband and I who are African American/Black saw approximately only 10 other Black people on the cruise. We purchased 2 Specialty Dinners and was isolated and segregated both times. On a ship with thousands of people we were flabbergasted when we were in a section of the restaurant with 2 other Black couples. It was weird. We commented to one another how strange and why was this done. Was it because the mostly “other” clientele wouldn’t want to be around us? That’s 6 out of 10 in one section alone, only us 3 couples. The rest of the restaurant was buzzing and full. It was Valentine’s Day. We often got strange, curious looks when moving about but nothing disrespectful. The staff is mostly great but a few who I know I intentionally overlooked us. But, the staff that was great were actually exceptional who went out of their way for us. (Hope this makes sense). Thankfully, my husband and I are very confident and enjoyed ourselves though we felt nearly invisible. Overall this ship is highly organized, the food is average. The pasta is always al dente. The internet is horrible. The private island is a waste of time. The Spa is awesome. Desert was better than the food.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Right, I never allow the waiter to pick where I sit, USA, or Abroad, unless a place is packed. I always look around and point to where I want to sit. I have never had someone tell me no, when I go to a restaurant during an average time of day. And something I notice black people don't do enough. COMPLAIN!!! on-the-spot. My favorite word is 'Can I speak to the manager?' If you call out the manager, they think you are a celeb if you are black, and it's top service from there on out, because everyone fears bad reviews that may affect Americans taking their cruise. Travel is extremely competitive. AND NO CRUISE, VACATION WHATEVER TRAVEL WANTS TO BE CRITICIZED AS RACIST, it's one of their worst fears.
Thank you for raising this issue. I'm a Black American who travels internationally and loves cruising. I had considered checking out the MSC line but no longer. One of my favorite parts of cruising is meeting new people and making friends. (My husband and I keep in touch with a couple we met on a 2018 cruise.) Not a fan of upsells or kids in night clubs either.
Maybe the hate is towards Americans in general. Americans are hated world wide and considered bad tourists.
I’m Asian and I just got back from a MSC cruise out of New York. I’ve experienced no racism at all and we had a large group of 80. We all had a great time in MSC.
Try the MSC Meraviglia that ports out of Brooklyn, NY. I just returned from a 12 day sailing on that ship and everyone I met was amazing. I made so many new connections and friends. The staff are absolutely amazing and the cleanliness of the ship is superb!
You and Lauren are a beautiful couple! It breaks my heart to hear about the ignorance you face. Thank you for sharing your experiences with us and helping to educate people on what it’s like to travel as a POC/interracial couple
Really appreciate your review of your experience. I’m finding that before I set cruise plans I always check your channel, along with a few other channels before I purchase anything. It just sucks how crappy people are to each other.
All of that crap from those people is absolutely ridiculous.
I’m white, love your videos. You appear to be a genuine person. Hope to see you on a future cruise. I’ll buy you a drink!
Thank you, I appreciate how deep you go into your reviews I also appreciate the fact that you don’t beat around the bush when it comes to race. You definitely gave me something to think about as it pertains to MSC Lines.
My mom and I recently sailed on the MSC Seaside in the Caribbean and we too experienced that racism.....I appreciate you speaking on this. We have so far to go as humans.
Wow am so sorry this happen
I’m so sorry. Racism is evil.
They called him a liar. Thank you! I am canceling and would like other African Americans to not sail MSC. Thanks❤
I’m sorry to hear that 😔
Unbelievable... The nerve of some people
You are exactly right on the concern for minors late at night. I cannot fathom what their parents are thinking. The parents should be protecting the children. Yes, 15 is still a child! And there are a lot of creeps out there!
Sorry.. in a lot of European countries it’s normal for minors to go to a club. It’s usually at age 16 but my first time at a club was at age 14. Not a biggie
The minors at the club was a bit weird. Thanks for the comment above, I didn’t know it was more common in Europe. Idk how it is over there, but there were lots of adults eyeing them down hard and at times making moves on them.
I normally think Europeans are great, but the minors in the clubs has always freaked me out. My first boyfriend was from Germany and was groomed by a 25 year old woman in his local club when he was 13. She even introduced herself to his parents. WTF? Not to mention him buying whiskey for his dad at age 5, because dad was too busy to leave the office.
This what I tell parents. It happens on all the cruise lines I have been on. Parents use cruising like a babysitter. I mean it's like a small town with 5k strangers and 2k more crew!! Pedophiles are EVERYWHERE!
It's annoying and amazing that parents allow things. My last cruise was the first time I experienced the running in hallways and banging on doors!!!
Age of consent is different
I hate haters. I’d hang with you guys anytime. Nice to have the heads up. MSC crossed off the must try list.
I am so sorry that you had to go through those bad experiences with the other passengers.
I myself experienced something similar on an American cruise. Maybe people have simply gotten a little worse.
That said, love your channel and wish you continued success 😎👍
I really appreciate your reviews and opinions. I'm glad you're calling out what you see and feel. It's legit a concern and while a lot of people might ignore it, it's important to call it out for what it is.
I had an incident with a different cultural group on a ship. This was a group of about 100 men, women and children. Whenever I walked into the sauna, they would all sit up and walk out. If I was in there when they came to the door, they would close it and walk away.
Wow! They weren't nice at all! On the plus side, you had it all to yourself!
Not so sure that’s a bad thing that you had the sauna to yourself and not with 100 other strangers. I’m surprised they didn’t have staff kick you out so they could use it.
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@@pdallen5801 there would only be 4-5 in the sauna at one time, and maybe a few more would wander to the door and look in while I was in there
I'm an Uber XL driver in Miami. I was also stuck in the traffic that day because of the marathon. I dropped people off at the Port of Miami and picked up people right after. MSC is actually building their own custom terminal at the Port of Miami just past Terminal A for Royal Caribbean.
"it is what it is" IS a beautiful philosophy to live by. Good for you!
Thank you for your honest review. I like smaller cruise ships with a smaller number of passengers, but for larger ships, I have never considered MSC, not just because of your review, but because of the many reviews that confirm it's not a line I would be interested in.
There are cultural differences, then there's flat out bigotry and racism. Sorry you experienced that garbage.
Thank you for being so candid about the behavior of some of the guests on your trip. We are also a mixed couple but did not have a problem like yours yet on a cruise. Our friends did have an issue on a river cruise thru Europe and they'll never go on one of those again.
Thank you for sharing this. We're a married mixed race couple (Black/White) and are looking into our first cruise. This is one thing that I was concerned about.
Racism is wrong, but is it Msc cruise fault if their customers are racist and not their staff?
@@amandab8433 Try Royal Caribbean or Carnival. As a black woman cruising over 25 years, sometimes solo, I have never experience a negative time with either of them. In 2019 on Celebrity Reflection on the way to my cabin I ran into a white couple in their 30's - 40's. They stopped and the lady asked me in a condescending way "do you smell poop"? I replied in a very annoyed way "no but I am looking at some". The look on her face was priceless and she moved right along. It's time we stop tolerating this nonsense.
I am Filipino and my hubby is white. We went on Holland America and we were ok. Six yrs later, we went on a river cruise on Viking and we were ok as well. I was the only Asian except for 2 Chinese mom and daughter. We had one mixed couple only and I noticed that no one sat with them during dinner for maybe 2-3 days and we joined them one night and we enjoyed their company. It was so nice to see other people joining them for dinner the rest of the cruise.
It's sad that Black women travelling with white husbands and white male companions rarely experience anything negative. But Black women travelling alone? Different experience.
I just watched this video about MSC, and I have to add my comments. I recently took my first cruise on this line, out of the US, having cruised multiple times on several different lines. About the only thing good I can say about them is their disembarkation process was the best I have seen. Everything from the initial interaction with the baggage handles, where they were actively asking for tips, the check-in process which was unduly long considering the amount of people present, and the fact you have to activate your ship card after you get on board instead of in the check in process was maddening for a cruise line with such a high reputation in Europe. Most of the entertainment was cancelled for various reasons. The idea of having a messaging app that all persons in your group can access is a great idea, if only it worked while at sea. There were many other reasons this cruise line gets poor marks from me, but suffice it to say I will not cruise with them again.
All things considered, it’s a good thing that their star service was disembarking 😜
Very intelligent and culturally forward, society can be so harsh, never let it change u🙏🏽
Great review! Very reliable and trustworthy
I feel you on the racism, wife and I too our 1st RC to see what they were all about, we've sailed almost 40 on different lines so decided RC. We had a couple incidents where certain crew treated us like we were glass people and invisible. One good staff employee assisted everyone but us, as we were the only people of color in this area, another we were seated near a corner in the dining room and was ignored again, BAD experience on our 1st and last RC cruise, had one scheduled for March and just transferred it to another Royal loyal, as we are done with them,never have we been treated like this on any line we've sailed.. You can't have my money treating us like that..
Sorry for what happened to you and your wife. It´s so sad that there are still so many trash (I wouldn´t call them people) that has intern issues that cannot handle and want to make other´s life miserable. I wish all the best to you guys.
I'll never cruise on Royal again for same reasons. The employees didn't seem to give the same respect to me and my family as they have others. Unfortunately, my next cruise is with MSC. Hopefully I don't have similar issues.
@@LawdJay I hope you guys have a wonderful experience, with great food, lots of fun and nice crew and people around you.
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Really appreciate your reviews! My husband and I lovvvve to cruise! It's unfortunate there are still a lot of people who have negative ideas about black men, and still you acknowledge not everyone thinks this way and you didn't let it ruin your trip. Lauren is a lucky lady :) ❤
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It's not cruise-related, but racist-related, but once, when I went to Italy with my husband back in 2015, I experienced something that may have related to my skin color (I'm black, he's mixed with white and Filipino, though he looks more white). We went to a cafe in Rome and the barista, who pleasantly spoke to my husband while taking his order, essentially ignored me, or answered me rudely. While people have told me that maybe it was something else, I always felt deep down that she treated me that way because of my skin color. This was disappointing, because up to that point our experience in Europe had been pleasant. It didn't rule my trip -- I loved Europe, but this incident still stands out to me.
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@@sheshe1stlady??
Your in Italy... Now I'm not familiar with Italian customs however I'd research them to discern wether it was racial bias or not, could it just be that the male is the one who traditionally takes tbe order in Italy? Etc, etc not everything's racism also who cares honestly this is such a minute inconvenience... I wouldn't care.
@@Anonymoose66Gare you even black? 🤔
Doesn’t even matter. Their point still stands.
I was on this ship 1 week prior to your trip.. I too saw these family’s behaviors. I did not let it turn me off this line.. I have taken 20+ cruises since January 2019 and never experienced the levels of rudeness and outrageous behavior as some of these passengers put forth.
Great Job on your content. I'm so sorry you encountered these issues 😔
Love your channel, could listen to you all day. Your reviews feel legit and really give us the overall vibe of a ship/experience. The minors at the adult activities is not OK and MSC is just opening the door for problems by not enforcing the rules. That said, I don’t think that line is for me. Keep up the great reviews.
It's a true crime episode waiting to happen.
I really appreciate your opinion on this cruise line and all of your other videos. I just wanted to add that the only reason why I enjoy the interior rooms is having that feeling when I turn off the lights it's completely dark and I don't have to think about when I want to get up. I let my body reset and tell me when it's time to get up since I don't have anything planned before noon every day of the trip minus the day we're allowed off the ship.
Sorry you had to go through that. There are ignorant people wherever you go. As a brotha whose also in an interracial relationship I know what it’s like for people to not understand. Love the content…keep up the great work!
I don't believe people from franc be racist my reason is almost 80 percent of France are people of color with 30 percent black population huge Muslim population and multicultural
I have been on many cruises and have met many fellow cruisers who are happy to share their cruise experiences and I have never heard anything about MSC that would entice me to cruise with them. You video has validated my belief.
I appreciate the overall info on this cruise line. Pretty certain I will never sail on them.
Royal Caribbean is the most ethnically diverse cruise option in my opinion.. as a black person, I WILL not pay money for people to stare and make nasty comments towards me.. That's why I love the Caribbean and its people. Always welcoming and warm and that's where i'll stay cruising ....
Great cruise plan I too, cruising from nyc, always go south to where people look like me and are not looking at me. A cruising holiday should be stress free. Happy cruising.
Thank you for loving us Caribbean people and supporting tourism in the many islands you visit.❤️
Thanks for this review. I was considering MSC, and this helped me come to a conclusion of not sailing with them. There are so many other cruise lines with which to spend my money.
Your videos are always informative and well thought out. We love to watch them. Well done! 🎉
I’m cruising 🛳️ with my teenager next month. The difference in Age of consent is not something I had considered but definitely something to be forewarned about and address before we travel. Thank you. 🙏
I want to weigh in on the elevators that make you put your floor in before boarding. I am an amputee, I do not have a left foot. I walk with a cane in normal life, on a cruise ship I use an electric scooter. The elevator system, which I experienced for the first time on Carnival Panorama, was the very first cruise I never had an elevator stolen by a drunk jerk. So I Love the elevators!
I’m sorry for that bad experience bro! People are mean but I love the way you keep your head up!! 🤙🏼🍺
NCL UPsale up you alot also. Me also I like the buffet better. Also their shows are not racially mixed. I hope I'm saying it correctly. Meaning the minorities are not being represented.
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11:04 I’m so very sorry you experienced racism on MSC. You are a very nice man. You are intelligent. It’s great to watch your videos. Thank you for what you do.
Don't downplay what you go through. I like listening to people to make them feel safe
I'm glad you spoke your truth! Stay classy~
Omg I was on MSC last week. The food sucked, and the card that turns on the lights in the roomed turned off after 15 minutes so if you are in the bathroom in the shower u need to come out and reactivate. Customer service was great and I loved my massage from the spa.
Thanks for the great review of the MSC Seascape. Doesn't sound like the kind of cruise line my wife and I would care to cruise on. Sounds like MSC has some work to do.
I can confirm that your experience on the MSC is matching my experience. We cruised on the MSC Seaside. What a beautiful ship. Well laid out and appointed. The balcony room was just perfect. We found that the staff were less than helpful. Not that they were mean, very little inititave. Unsupervised gangs of kids everywhere. Leson learned. We try to stay away from the "Kids sail & eat free" promotions. The best Tapaniki experience that we have had, but the food in general was lack lustre. We did not care for the fixed dining time.
Waiting 45 minutes to get just appetizers is nuts after paying $400. Thanks for the video. Really good info. That's a shame that in the 21st century people are still so fixated on the color of a person's skin.
It's best to act like an European Italian would, and start shouting , "whats going on? Where's my food. I demand to see the manager!"... rather than sit politely waiting...🤣 It'd get results , then.
I visited Naples on a Mediterranean Cruise in 2018. I saw exactly that at a quaint restaurant we were having lunch in. Of course, it was all in very robust Italian. 😁 And quite the show I must say!
I thought about an MSC cruise with my family but this video made me change my mind. I am sticking with RCL and never going on MSC.
I just got back off the Seaside and i had none of them problems. I had a great time. My now ex tried to ruin it but she stayed in the room while i had a ball. I'm going again soon. Main dining was nice, didn't do specialty because i don't eat seafood, parties were very nice. Water slides are fun. I had a ball.
I appreciate this video. You always give good, honest reviews Also, I’m a black woman but my money is still green. I expect to be treated like everyone else.. I can spend my money with a company who appreciates my business.
Nobody cares what color you are son
Teens in the nightclubs and bars after hours is absolutely a recipe for disaster. That policy must change. You are exactly right. Cultures aside, there is just too many things that could go wrong. Proper oversight is almost impossible in that scenario. Especially on the passing and consumption of alcohol and what it could lead to. My apologies to you and your girlfriend for the juvenile actions of others towards you. On the ship, we are ALL a cruise family. We should treat everyone as such.
It's like security never wants to be the bad guy. So they don't enforce.
I recommend you never go to Mediterranean countries, mainly during the summer. Sure it's not perfect, but European youth have lived and grown up like this for centuries, and seeing the criminality and behavior of American youth, I don't think the final result here is much better. I did grow up in Europe, but I have worked with LE in the US for 15 years; I understand you consider your culture the norm for everyone else to follow & obey, but you don't have the right to impose it. None is perfect, but telling other countries that they have to change their culture for US values... well, don't even try; respect it and if you don't like it, well you don't have to go.
Bro europe dont have age of consent lol.
Consent does not override the responsibility the cruise line has to limit possible harmful activity by their passengers, regardless of age, or whether they necessarily agree with it.
@@brianpawlowski6498 true but most workers on cruise ships are from 3rd world nations. So who do you think is turning the blind eye.
Thank you so much for this. I am a 66 yr old white woman and I trust your opinion completely of cruises and people on the ships. No way I will take an MSC ship now. We have been using Carnival for almost 10 yrs now and have never seen the racism you point out here. That is horrendous and totally unacceptable. Now the kids out too late, yeah especially at spring break time, you see too many teen out at midnight but they are trying to shut that down. All cruise lines have issues, but MSC does seem to have some big ones that have turned me away. Thanks again.
You are easily swayed I see and definitely not a free thinker.
Hi wish me well. I will be 51 in June and taking my first cruise June 12 with Carnival. I’m a peoples kind of person. I’m looking forward to a good time with some family members.
@@mscandys549 don’t listen to this fools review. It is not accurate at all. You will have a great time. Carnival is awesome!
I agree as a black woman with you, I just think now the carnival is the only place I’m going for if I have no idea on what vacation to think. Yet with the msc, you have racism and even children at bars and night clubs. Mhmm sounds like a cruise not for me
@@hiim4212 your race card privileges are revoked. I’ve been on over 30 cruises, and never seen racism. Aside from some blacks that didn’t like white people 🤷♂️
I met some French people in Zion one night I was there we talk for a long time they were really cool people. One was an English teacher and the other worked at a theatre
Thats Unbelievable 😢
Totally get your Point!
Your objectivity and the courage you have to tell the truth and say what needs to be said are two of many reasons why your channel is so successful! Thank you.
It does take courage. That's a good point.
A few weeks ago, my wife and I went on an MSC cruise for the first time. We went on the MSC Meraviglia out of Port Canaveral. I think your assessment of MSC is pretty spot on. We found the ship itself was a beautiful ship, it kind of ended there. We had a balcony room and found it to be good size but there was a lack of storage/closet space so we had to keep some of our stuff in our suit cases. As far as the food goes, the buffet was good, the MDR was ok the first couple of nights and then not so much after that. Overall, we thought the cruise was mediocre at best. Not very likely we will take another MSC cruise.
A tip…always take some magnet hooks, that way you’ve got lots of places to hang extra clothes.
Just completed a cruise out of Miami on MSC & had no idea that there would be a majority of Euros on board ( specifically Italian). The buffet is a mad house - food was unremarkable. I agree with your observations about crowd behavior
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Thank you for your video. I was just looking at other cruise channel videos. And was almost convinced to go solo, especially on MSC. Repeated phrases of how everyone's so friendly. I was almost convinced but your video saved me.
I'm Black and have traveled solo to Romania and to East Asia. Layaways through Portugal and Italy weren't great as, like you said, other travels would just look at me like I'm dirt and move away. Romanians were mostly very kind or kept their distance. Female workers would often straight walk away when I entered to buy. I've been the last served at restaurants. Last served on planes. I've always been polite, waited my turn, paid full price and tried using the local language.
I always thought the people abroad were mistreating me because I'm a little overweight, solo and don't look uberwealthy. But an outgoing, attractive, fit man like yourself, with company, has disproved that with this video. If you're a calm, mild mannered, frugal Black man you're labeled a bum or a thief. If you're a Black man like yourself, I guess you're taken as a successful but still toxic guy. Based. On. Nothing.
It cost money to be in or get to these places. Do people think you just wake up, in one's box in the alley; and then, made my way by handing anyone who stops me an ounce of crack? Do airlines accept breakdance routines as a form of payment? You can't win.
Everything's wonderful, all love and bountiful until you show your Black skin. And then we get criticized for not having this experience or that; for not venturing out.
I don't have anyone to travel with me, so I guess this has convinced me to save up for my on sailboat instead. Like I initially planned.
Much continued success!
Blocking chargers shouldn’t be allowed. I feel your pain.
OMG, wow, sorry you had this experience. I've cruised a considerable number of times but never on an MSC ship. Have to say that if that's the environment it leaves a lot to be desired and is a turnoff. Well Wishes for you and yours.
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I agree with everything you said, though I've never sailed on MSC, and never will...they don't come to Australia. As a 50 year old bloke, I understand that some people could perceive me of being a possible p word or creep just because of my age and being male, and as such I would too feel quite uncomfortable with very young people dressed in typical nightclub clothing around me. I would certainly make sure I removed myself from that environment just to avoid any misunderstanding or, more likely, incorrect perceptions. I appreciate cultural differences and would be more accepting if I was in those parts of the world where it's the norm, though would still remove myself from the environment, but I do too feel they should do more in terms of sailing somewhere, in this case the US, where it isn't the norm.
I really love your videos! You really have fun / a blast on your vacays and your sweetheart and friends are so fun loving too! [Cosumel stop on your Virgin voyages video was GREAT!] You have a very high Moral Compass and that is a gift from God! So sorry about the racism, Ugh. Love your channel. ❤ Best wishes for continued success on your channel!
11:26 you didn't argue with & call security on the babysitters like you did with the senior citizen on the other cruise? You brushed it off, like you should have done with the senior citizen.
I am a little surprised that Brazilians, especially women would act like that because I have always been told that they like American men, especially black men!! Honestly I haven't personally been around many Brazilians! Wow, I guess that there are just bad apples in every bunch!