I hated the power reserve when I first saw Grand Seikos, but it has grown on me as a design feature that has become their trademark (like Rolex’s cyclops). I’d rather a brand have a distinct and polarizing feature rather than a ‘just another watch’ lack of personality.
The 3:00 date is the real flaw, in my view…move it to 6:00 & get ride of the power reserve, or, better, just keep the power reserve which would be an interesting dial element on an otherwise balanced dial. Great watches, have owned quite a few and always impressive
Tim, you are always hitting it out of the park! Very enjoyable show, sorry I am always catching up on the repeat. I would love to hear your thoughts on the watches that were once considered uncool, but are now the cat's meow and vice versa, a reversal of fortune themed episode. Thanks and greetings from a hot and steamy Osaka. Cheers!
Hi Tim. What a great show ! The combination of your in-depth knowledge and lovable cadence and delivery makes yours the best in the business. I suggest a discussion that includes Maurice Lacroix. In my opinion, a great Swiss watch and a bargain to match. Billy Budd
The people who say Grand Seiko watches are too big haven't seen a new Grand Seiko for a good year or two. Mine is a 40mm but wears smaller. I think it wears very well . I am not a Grand Seiko Fan Boy but out of my quite large collection I have one and I am extremely happy with my purchase.
Great show! Please make a episode about Reverso watches! There is a ocean if them so lets sort out which one is the best of them all! I have the grand reverso 976 in pink gold and I would like to have the 1931ultra thin rouge boutique edition! Cheers!
Fantastic and educational as always Tim - ain't nobody who does it better 👑 Could you or anyone else tell me where I could purchase that amazing looking clock you have on in the background, it's mesmerising :)
Sorry I missed this! Wanted to ask what you think is the best finished movement for under $10k. The NOMOS Lambda is pretty incredible but Grand Seiko might be up there
Regarding G.S's Spring drive GMT chrono movement; It is a stacked movement or modular, I think. It will be nice to see a fully integrated movement built from scratch.
GS owner here. I actually love the bracelets, their finishes are one of the best if not the best. The only down side is no micro adjustment! It is simply inexcusable at this price point. The up side is if they have micro adjustments I would end up buying a lot of GS and my bank accounts are not gonna like it a bit;)
I was told the titanium Grand Seiko bracelet uses pins and sleeves to stop titanium pins from cross threading. Although Tuidor use titanium screwed pins on the Pelagos I still think pins and sleeves are ok. I am also ok with how light the titanium Grand Seiko is, as I have other titanium and forged Carbon watches. I don't think a watch has to feel heavy on my wrist to be top quality. My AP forged Carbon is definitely good quality and the Grand Seiko feels fine to me too.
Regarding the pins and sleeves. My opinion is that it isolates wear to the pins and collars and can be replaced. 2nd, titanium on titanium can stick or bind the links.
Hi Tim, Great show and tvm for the hard work. Could you do a clip about Girard Perregaux and Ulysse Nardin since they are independent? Btw: Love my GP Laureato "Panda"
The bracelets on Grand Seikos are such a disappointment, it is such a shame after some incredible watches. The watch faces are works of art. That's why you have to try on watches before you buy. Thank you Tim for the honesty.
The clasps aren't great, but there is a half link either side of the clasp so you can size the bracelet so it fits perfectly, and how you like a bracelet to fit. The titanium bracelet might feel flimsy but they are actually stronger than steel. A lot of people just equate weight being of higher quality. After wearing a few titanium watches and a forged Carbon watch, I have got used to lighter watches and knowing they aren't inferior quality.
The Grand Seiko I own looks far better on the bracelet than a strap. I normally put most watches I buy on a good quality after market strap, (apart from my Rolex watches), but as mentioned my cherry blossom dial Grand Seiko looks far better on the bracelet. Feels extremely comfortable too.
Hi Tim. Regards from Portugal. Is always a pleasure to learn from you. As one of the topics I would love to ear your thoughts: Gender choices in watch scene. I have a Nautilus 7118 and is truly one of my favorites. I don’t think is feminine at all. To be honest I think gender is going to fade in watch choices. What do you think? Thanks! Filipe
Great show Tim. Really enjoying my GS sbgx 261 9F black dial on a premium rubber Seiko strap. Wears comfortable on wrist. Safe cycling and enjoy C5. Stay healthy and safe sir. Show ideas watch testing standards per brands an watches.
The clasps aren't great, but there is a half link either side of the clasp so you can size the bracelet so it fits perfectly, and how you like a bracelet to fit. The titanium bracelet might feel flimsy but they are actually stronger than steel. A lot of people just equate weight being of higher quality. After wearing a few titanium watches and a forged Carbon watch, I have got used to lighter watches and knowing they aren't inferior quality.
In the days of hand built Ferrari it used to be said you pay for the engine and Ferrari throws the rest of the car in for free. One can say the same about Grand Seiko in that you pay for the watch and they throw the bracelet in for free.
Tim, I hope you’ll go for the Patek inline perpetual calendar - this watch is for you. Regarding your next show, I’d love to see it dedicated to rare handcrafts at Patek (marquetry, engraving, gemsetting, guillocher, enameling etc).
@@the1916companywatchreviews thank you Tim. I tried the 5236P recently, it was incredible - you won’t regret it! Interestingly enough, it inherited and perfected the caliber 31-260, which you already praised in the 5235.
There have been reports of inaccuracy (+10spd or more) from the 9SA5 movement, which I suppose is to be expected from an all-new escapement, though to be fair I don't know how frequent this is.
Suggestion: with the release of the IWC Mark XX, it might be interesting to see the T Mosso review of the current state of field style watches. Something you can wear camping, swimming, climbing, anywhere. Rugged, screwdown crown, solid caseback, robust movement etc. But not bulky like a diver, as you don’t want it catching on backpack straps, sleeping bags and other gear! You also don’t want that sharp knurled bezel ripping an expensive poly jacket etc. My picks would be the IWC mark XX or the airking. Yes, both are technically pilot’s watches, but fit this brief well, alongside classics like the hamilton khaki and explorer. Personally, Liking the new airking as smaller crown and crown guards make it less likely to dig into your wrist whilst active. Easy link would also be a godsend when building up a sweat. I could wear my G shock, but it’d be more fun wearing a mechanical!
How about a show on your ultimate collection of say 8 to 10 watches that you would buy if you won the lottery? Keep up the the great work Tim and Team! ✊
@@the1916companywatchreviews Absolutely Tim! As our educating host we have grown to know you and your Watch journey and it interests us greatly how as a ‘one Watch guy’ you would curate a collection again. The sale of your Sinn EZM proved that people have a great interest in the Watches that you wear. The people who bought your JLC’s have bargain gems! So, back to the main question. The answer is Yes, I think people have a great interest in your personal dream collection. Not many have handled more watches than yourself to be qualified to tell us their favourite. Kind regards, Tom.
When you're talking you can't get this level of case finishing in that price range from any Swiss you're wrong. JLC Polaris line cases are hand brushed with a wooden stick, and can be had around the 6-8K range new and 5K used.
I’ve just picked up the white birch this week and loving it. No complaints with the bracelet it feels solid! Dunno if they have changed anything with evolution 9? I’ll have to send you a wrist shot. I also love rolex, so not believer in the suggestion that the brands collectors have animosity. I’m put off owning a rolex because I don’t want people asking how much my watch cost or because of the “other people factor” as I’ve heard you describe it. But design and build quality wise they are killer. Also easylink and glidelock is way ahead of the pack! I’ll stick to admiring Rolex in my watch books and enjoying the history of one of the best brands to ever do it! Keep the show going I love it! Also please feature my lovely FXD wrist shot i sent over a few weeks back at the cricket 😁😜
I sold my 2022 white birch Because of two reasons My copy RUN 15 to 17 Seconds Per day And Seconds reasons when I bought I waiting for three months the price is very strong With no discount. Now my local dealer sales to another people about 20% (watch fair) This is my third Grand Seiko That I will never go back and buy it again.
My White Birch lost 2s in 4 months. It never stopped despite me wearing it only 2-3 days/week. It’s unbelievable, I regularly check it against the atomic time online and it’s always perfect. GS is outstanding.
@@the1916companywatchreviews you are spot on as always, the bracelet needs to be improved. If they would have a Rolex quality bracelet they would just take the collection to the next level.
GS's mix-and-match strategy with their models is unexciting. They come up with a few cases, hands & indices sets, and dial textures, then they release those in different combos and dial colors in their three movement lines.
Completely agree. Their dials are gorgeous, organic and romantic, and the majority of them feel completely out of place and dropped in to their razor sharp cases, hands and indices. Most of their watches end up feeling like less than the sum of their parts.
The only problem that i have with watches like patek, is that they are just "so expensive." meaning, that if i owned one, i would be terrified of scratching it or getting mugged. It's like walking around with a transparent shopping bag with £200.000 in it. I think that the paranoia of wearing one would outweigh the pleasure of owning one.
I missed 2 Sea of Clouds by a day. Oh well, probably (most likely ;D) find it cheaper on the secondary or knowing GS they'll come out with a better one in a week. They do pump them out.
@@the1916companywatchreviews I think they are trying to mirror Rolex on some level...I believe it's against their instincts to otherwise have that much dial text
The grand Seiko pictures he uses are really robbing grand Seiko of all the accolades he gives them. Perhaps some wrist shots or videos. Those pictures are grainy and pretty terrible stock photos.
I hated the power reserve when I first saw Grand Seikos, but it has grown on me as a design feature that has become their trademark (like Rolex’s cyclops). I’d rather a brand have a distinct and polarizing feature rather than a ‘just another watch’ lack of personality.
I have my snowflake with me today, the power reserve looks so good that, under Sun it shine a rainbow like color
It’s on the back in more recent models. The Birch and White Birch are just amazing.
The 3:00 date is the real flaw, in my view…move it to 6:00 & get ride of the power reserve, or, better, just keep the power reserve which would be an interesting dial element on an otherwise balanced dial. Great watches, have owned quite a few and always impressive
I love the look of the power reserve! I just prefer mechanical so went for a 9s. But might try a shunbun later!
And it looks like a Japanese fan so another nice cultural reference
Tim, you are always hitting it out of the park! Very enjoyable show, sorry I am always catching up on the repeat. I would love to hear your thoughts on the watches that were once considered uncool, but are now the cat's meow and vice versa, a reversal of fortune themed episode. Thanks and greetings from a hot and steamy Osaka. Cheers!
Great discussion on GS and I’m with Tim, the Cellini Moon-Phase is an underrated, beautiful and amazing dress watch!
Late to the party. May i have your opinion on the sbgr311 20av brown dial. About to pull the trigger at 4k.. Ty
Hi Tim. What a great show ! The combination of your in-depth knowledge and lovable cadence and delivery makes yours the best in the business. I suggest a discussion that includes Maurice Lacroix. In my opinion, a great Swiss watch and a bargain to match.
Billy Budd
The people who say Grand Seiko watches are too big haven't seen a new Grand Seiko for a good year or two. Mine is a 40mm but wears smaller. I think it wears very well . I am not a Grand Seiko Fan Boy but out of my quite large collection I have one and I am extremely happy with my purchase.
New viewer. I love your nixie tube clock. What is that giant book on the bureau behind you?
Once again, a great episode. Always entertaining and instructive.
Great episode Tim 👏
I literally got the SLGH009 last weekend. Im blown away by how good it is.
Great episode as usual
I was told my uncle Seiko is rechargable but band is broken after retiring from military n work. Where can I send to get repaired ?
Great show! Please make a episode about Reverso watches! There is a ocean if them so lets sort out which one is the best of them all! I have the grand reverso 976 in pink gold and I would like to have the 1931ultra thin rouge boutique edition! Cheers!
there are so many lovely version of reversos I can never pull the trigger simply due to indecision.
@@davidr2802 yeah thats why it would be helpful to cover this topis with Tim... I hope he see's our chat! Cheers!
WatchBox doesn't pay you enough, Tim. This content and expertise is simply unique.
When are they going to have on the wrist micro adjustments?
Fantastic and educational as always Tim - ain't nobody who does it better 👑 Could you or anyone else tell me where I could purchase that amazing looking clock you have on in the background, it's mesmerising :)
Look up Nixie tube clocks. Many on the market though not cheap.
@@Brew2point0 thank you so much bud much appreciated :)
Great show as usual, what about a microbrand special for the next episode. Don't think you ever covered that topic.
Sorry I missed this! Wanted to ask what you think is the best finished movement for under $10k. The NOMOS Lambda is pretty incredible but Grand Seiko might be up there
Check out Felipe Pikullik.
I agree. You should talk about non-Rolex watches. Frederico discuses watches other than Rolex and creates an interest in me about them
Excellent fair coverage of Seiko. The 5905 green is my grail . For now. :)
Jeepers…that PF 5326G is gorgeous!
Regarding G.S's Spring drive GMT chrono movement; It is a stacked movement or modular, I think. It will be nice to see a fully integrated movement built from scratch.
Hello Tim, the main issue with Grand Seiko's 9S calibre is the bored holes on the main plate, why? It really is an eye sore
🤣
I'm absolutely in love with the Mt. Iwate
Love everything about my Grand Seiko SBGY003. Very wearable size. Spring Drive is so accurate. And the dial is a marvel to admire.
Awesome talk Tim you pick your words wise ... if people pay 10000 for hublot eta i pay 60000 for a spring drive yess all day long !!
GS owner here. I actually love the bracelets, their finishes are one of the best if not the best.
The only down side is no micro adjustment! It is simply inexcusable at this price point.
The up side is if they have micro adjustments I would end up buying a lot of GS and my bank accounts are not gonna like it a bit;)
Grand seiko has no ego, thats why i like the brand.
maybe you mean its owners.
I was told the titanium Grand Seiko bracelet uses pins and sleeves to stop titanium pins from cross threading. Although Tuidor use titanium screwed pins on the Pelagos I still think pins and sleeves are ok. I am also ok with how light the titanium Grand Seiko is, as I have other titanium and forged Carbon watches. I don't think a watch has to feel heavy on my wrist to be top quality. My AP forged Carbon is definitely good quality and the Grand Seiko feels fine to me too.
Regarding the pins and sleeves. My opinion is that it isolates wear to the pins and collars and can be replaced. 2nd, titanium on titanium can stick or bind the links.
My Son was born in 1984 ! I feel very old! Great show as usual Tim!
Thanks again for a great show!
Great video. However your laptop distracts me alot lol, what is that laptop??
Hi Tim, Great show and tvm for the hard work. Could you do a clip about Girard Perregaux and Ulysse Nardin since they are independent? Btw: Love my GP Laureato "Panda"
Thx Tim and team
The bracelets on Grand Seikos are such a disappointment, it is such a shame after some incredible watches. The watch faces are works of art.
That's why you have to try on watches before you buy.
Thank you Tim for the honesty.
The clasps aren't great, but there is a half link either side of the clasp so you can size the bracelet so it fits perfectly, and how you like a bracelet to fit. The titanium bracelet might feel flimsy but they are actually stronger than steel. A lot of people just equate weight being of higher quality. After wearing a few titanium watches and a forged Carbon watch, I have got used to lighter watches and knowing they aren't inferior quality.
The Grand Seiko I own looks far better on the bracelet than a strap. I normally put most watches I buy on a good quality after market strap, (apart from my Rolex watches), but as mentioned my cherry blossom dial Grand Seiko looks far better on the bracelet. Feels extremely comfortable too.
I think in regards to all Seikos, they put their value into the watch itself. That is why they look so good.
Hi Tim. Regards from Portugal. Is always a pleasure to learn from you. As one of the topics I would love to ear your thoughts: Gender choices in watch scene. I have a Nautilus 7118 and is truly one of my favorites. I don’t think is feminine at all. To be honest I think gender is going to fade in watch choices. What do you think? Thanks! Filipe
I love Grand Seikos. They are exquisite and full of character. I can't imagine buying a Rolex instead.
Great show Tim. Really enjoying my GS sbgx 261 9F black dial on a premium rubber Seiko strap. Wears comfortable on wrist. Safe cycling and enjoy C5. Stay healthy and safe sir. Show ideas watch testing standards per brands an watches.
shame i didn't make it. Great shirt/jacket. It looks like it has great fade potential
Thot i missed the live show, always will watch the replay. Thanks Tim.
The clasps aren't great, but there is a half link either side of the clasp so you can size the bracelet so it fits perfectly, and how you like a bracelet to fit. The titanium bracelet might feel flimsy but they are actually stronger than steel. A lot of people just equate weight being of higher quality. After wearing a few titanium watches and a forged Carbon watch, I have got used to lighter watches and knowing they aren't inferior quality.
Spring Drive moonphase needs to happen
Great conversation and content tonight Tim. Seiko and Rolex did well, but Patek stole the show. Hair looking presentable. 🥃🥃🥃
The in-line patek is also my dream one and done watch. I've already warned my wife, lol
FYI "namesake" is one of those words that can be used both ways, so it was actually correct the first time you said it as well
The hand engraved PP is instant grail. OMG 😳😳😳
I love Grand Seiko
I like the power reserve on my cherry blossom Grand Seiko.
In the days of hand built Ferrari it used to be said you pay for the engine and Ferrari throws the rest of the car in for free. One can say the same about Grand Seiko in that you pay for the watch and they throw the bracelet in for free.
I've never heard of Credor... 😳
Tim, I hope you’ll go for the Patek inline perpetual calendar - this watch is for you. Regarding your next show, I’d love to see it dedicated to rare handcrafts at Patek (marquetry, engraving, gemsetting, guillocher, enameling etc).
@@the1916companywatchreviews thank you Tim. I tried the 5236P recently, it was incredible - you won’t regret it! Interestingly enough, it inherited and perfected the caliber 31-260, which you already praised in the 5235.
There have been reports of inaccuracy (+10spd or more) from the 9SA5 movement, which I suppose is to be expected from an all-new escapement, though to be fair I don't know how frequent this is.
Suggestion: with the release of the IWC Mark XX, it might be interesting to see the T Mosso review of the current state of field style watches. Something you can wear camping, swimming, climbing, anywhere. Rugged, screwdown crown, solid caseback, robust movement etc. But not bulky like a diver, as you don’t want it catching on backpack straps, sleeping bags and other gear! You also don’t want that sharp knurled bezel ripping an expensive poly jacket etc. My picks would be the IWC mark XX or the airking. Yes, both are technically pilot’s watches, but fit this brief well, alongside classics like the hamilton khaki and explorer. Personally, Liking the new airking as smaller crown and crown guards make it less likely to dig into your wrist whilst active. Easy link would also be a godsend when building up a sweat. I could wear my G shock, but it’d be more fun wearing a mechanical!
How about a show on your ultimate collection of say 8 to 10 watches that you would buy if you won the lottery? Keep up the the great work Tim and Team! ✊
@@the1916companywatchreviews Absolutely Tim!
As our educating host we have grown to know you and your Watch journey and it interests us greatly how as a ‘one Watch guy’ you would curate a collection again. The sale of your Sinn EZM proved that people have a great interest in the Watches that you wear. The people who bought your JLC’s have bargain gems!
So, back to the main question. The answer is Yes, I think people have a great interest in your personal dream collection. Not many have handled more watches than yourself to be qualified to tell us their favourite.
Kind regards,
Tom.
When you're talking you can't get this level of case finishing in that price range from any Swiss you're wrong. JLC Polaris line cases are hand brushed with a wooden stick, and can be had around the 6-8K range new and 5K used.
I’ve just picked up the white birch this week and loving it. No complaints with the bracelet it feels solid! Dunno if they have changed anything with evolution 9? I’ll have to send you a wrist shot.
I also love rolex, so not believer in the suggestion that the brands collectors have animosity. I’m put off owning a rolex because I don’t want people asking how much my watch cost or because of the “other people factor” as I’ve heard you describe it.
But design and build quality wise they are killer. Also easylink and glidelock is way ahead of the pack! I’ll stick to admiring Rolex in my watch books and enjoying the history of one of the best brands to ever do it!
Keep the show going I love it! Also please feature my lovely FXD wrist shot i sent over a few weeks back at the cricket 😁😜
Big grand Seiko fan
suggestion for next week: picking 5 pateks in running for bday purchase in 2023
Tim buying a 130k Patek, glad watch box is paying you well lol, it’s deserved.
Huge fan of Grand Seiko dials they're awesome in that regard but I do agree they have wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too many special editions, it's ridiculous.
so does Omega
I sold my 2022 white birch
Because of two reasons
My copy RUN 15 to 17 Seconds Per day
And Seconds reasons when I bought I waiting for three months the price is very strong With no discount. Now my local dealer sales to another people about 20% (watch fair)
This is my third Grand Seiko
That I will never go back and buy it again.
Get Quartz?
i fully support 2023 bday challenge 👏🏻
My White Birch lost 2s in 4 months. It never stopped despite me wearing it only 2-3 days/week. It’s unbelievable, I regularly check it against the atomic time online and it’s always perfect. GS is outstanding.
My GS keeps perfect time, no +, no -, perfect, great watches
@@the1916companywatchreviews you are spot on as always, the bracelet needs to be improved. If they would have a Rolex quality bracelet they would just take the collection to the next level.
Has this man finally taken his sunglasses off his head?? Christ only took 10 years
Nice haircut, Tim! You kinda looks like John Cena tho 😂
GS's mix-and-match strategy with their models is unexciting. They come up with a few cases, hands & indices sets, and dial textures, then they release those in different combos and dial colors in their three movement lines.
Completely agree. Their dials are gorgeous, organic and romantic, and the majority of them feel completely out of place and dropped in to their razor sharp cases, hands and indices.
Most of their watches end up feeling like less than the sum of their parts.
The only problem that i have with watches like patek, is that they are just "so expensive." meaning, that if i owned one, i would be terrified of scratching it or getting mugged. It's like walking around with a transparent shopping bag with £200.000 in it. I think that the paranoia of wearing one would outweigh the pleasure of owning one.
No you won’t be
@@ihmpall ?
Wooo! I throw them GS in a spaghetti bowl!
36 Day Date, who wears it? The Big Man, who doesn't need to flex( Tony Soprano)
Totally disagree for gs snowflake bracelet is not cheap it’s not as tight as Rolex bracelet but it’s functional and actually hand finished as well
I missed 2 Sea of Clouds by a day. Oh well, probably (most likely ;D) find it cheaper on the secondary or knowing GS they'll come out with a better one in a week. They do pump them out.
How’s about UN?🥴
I disagree, GS beats Rolex at its best
Grand Seiko has too much dial text
@@the1916companywatchreviews I think they are trying to mirror Rolex on some level...I believe it's against their instincts to otherwise have that much dial text
The grand Seiko pictures he uses are really robbing grand Seiko of all the accolades he gives them. Perhaps some wrist shots or videos. Those pictures are grainy and pretty terrible stock photos.
#grandseikotherolexkiller