I'm glad you are taking a break from being on the road almost all the time, nothing like watching the railroad do their own thing.. Have you ever visited any railroad museums while on the road?? There's one in Pine Bluff, AR that houses the "Pride of Pine Bluff" 4-8-4 steam loco, a 2-6-0 steam loco (slated for cosmetic paint job (boiler is fried), a few diesel engines on display from private owners, a derrick crane, snow plow, hand car, a few passenger cars and a Cotton Belt GP30 (no diesel engine in it).. I've been there myself, very cool collection. I also got to go inside the GP30's cab)..
👍👍👍My Dad and a lot of other smarter people than me always said, There are no Stupid Questions. We are always learning when we don't know something. Great video Steve. Thank you.
Steve, that swing bridge at 10:00 used to be hand powered back when I was a kid. Lots of us railfan kids hung out with the Kaukauna switch crew bumming cab rides and I helped turn that bridge several times. It basically had a giant box-end wrench that you'd walk around in a circle and operate the pinion gear. Chicago and North Western used to keep a full time switcher at that mill. In the 1980s that switcher was often a "Baldwing-repower" engine that was bought from The Katy. They also used some second hand Alcos from Penn Central. My first cab ride was right where you were standing at 10:00. Locked my 10-speed up to one of the road signs with my bike lock and away I went. Different world then.
Those black cars are woodchip cars. The doors open from the end as you said The long drawbars on some of the freight cars are cushioned drawbars, versus the "rigid" drawbar on, say, the woodchip car. When you make a coupling to a car with a cushioned drawbar, it will shove into the pocket and absorb some the energy from the coupling, providing a "smoother" impact. When you couple to a rigid drawbar, it is just a solid hit with no give. Oversimplified explanation, but hope you get the idea.
I, live in Detroit, Michigan. I, remember when Grand Trunk and Western was a main Railroad Company, in the Detroit and Southeastern Michigan area. Then, Canadian National Railroad bought Grand Trunk and Western. I, am glad to see that the Grand Trunk Engines have not been scrapped, and still being used elsewhere.
You are correct about the bridge at 17:00. That line used to go all the way to Manitowoc. Before Chicago and North Western the railroad was known as The Milwaukee Lakeshore and Western. In Kaukauna where the Pizza Hut and Fire Department there was a HUGE MLS&W shop and roundhouse facility.
There looked like some red oak and ash logs with the pine logs that was wood chips and sawdust coming off the belt line it's mostly slabs that are chipped up from where there squaring up the logs to cut lumber or 2X4 ECT. and there some of the chip's from clear cutting land where they chip the hole tree . as far as that car some places tilt the car up to unload it some roll the car over to empty them like coal cars was that a paper mill or a mill that makes chip boards 4'X8'X 1/2" ECT. ? But stay safe keep the video's coming
Great catch of the GT local switching procedures! 1st time I've seen those pulp cars being switched out. What a neat facility especially w the trackmobile and I recently found one at a model train show. I had been looking for one online but nobody had them. This one I got for $30 and had never been used and will run on my layout. Thanks again for sharing your videos with us along with your time and effort!
I live just over 1,000 feet from that caboose now. Don't know how long it's been for sale, but it's been for sale at least a month now. I checked and counted 5 locks in kaukauna.
I don't know if they're for sale, but there are two cabooses (cabeese?) sitting on State Road 3 north of Fort Wayne, an old NW with the cupola on top and a Southern bay window style. They used to be home to a little salon back in the nineties, but they've been sorely neglected for a long time now and need to be rescued before they fall apart. You'd be my hero if you could save them, Steve.
The log cars might possibly have come from the E&LS RR in Iron Mountain Michigan, on the original Milwaukee Road track since 1980, and Jason Asselin has hundreds of videos about them. So watch for a certain log car with a certain number. And watch Jasons' videos 📹. And you can watch the empty car going North. And the loaded cars going South to Kaukauna. This is like a captive service, because when the cars arrive in Green Bay they are transferred directly to the C.N., and assembled into either the afternoon train that usually departs around 3:00 pm. Or the evening train departing around 10:00 pmcd also 2200 Hours. A GREAT AND FANTASTIC Place to watch the departure is next to the C&NW Station at 200 Dousman Street that was built in 1898. Then it was the headquarters of the 4 divisions like the West line to Wausau and Eland Junction to Rhinelander, but in 1993 when CNW was merged into U.P. RR. the Wausau line was abandoned and ripped off and made into the nature trail. But the track must be rebuilt into both a commuter railroad to provide alternate transport in place of the expensive gas for autos. And a steam powered excursion train for tourism using steam locomotives and coaches from various different other rail collections,, and also some of the original "400" and 1956 Bi-Level coaches, pulled by Historic E.M.D. F7A STREAMLINERS that are currently for sale in 2022, and with a dining car and meals featuring farm fresh Wisconsin food. We wanted to use the ELS RR but the track needs repairs. Or the C.N. either going South to Appleton. Or North to Marinette, but C.N. currently doesn't permit excursions. Or the GBW to New London, but the track was ripped off after 1996, but luckily we can rebuild it with new heavy rails for a comfortable ride, and create a brand new and independent shortline!! OK!! Let's GO!! ALL ABOARD THE GREEN BAY DINNER TRAIN!! 🍽 😋 😀 😍 😊 👌 🍽 !! GOD BLESS THE U.S.A 🇺🇸 🙌 🙏 ❤ 💖!!!!! ALLELUIA!!!!! AMEN!!!!! WED.6.29.22.A.D.
I want a caboose to .. you see them at ppl houses in northern Michigan .. cool man cave type thing ... But .. my wife is cool herself I'd find her in there jamming to her music relaxing hangout lol
The TPPX cars are top loaded and unloaded from the top also. A friend of mine works at that mill on the chip pile dozer. I myself have switched the old thilmany mill a couple times back in the late 90's when I worked out of neenah yard! Longer drawbars are cushioned cars and shorter ones are non cushioned.
I'm glad you are taking a break from being on the road almost all the time, nothing like watching the railroad do their own thing.. Have you ever visited any railroad museums while on the road?? There's one in Pine Bluff, AR that houses the "Pride of Pine Bluff" 4-8-4 steam loco, a 2-6-0 steam loco (slated for cosmetic paint job (boiler is fried), a few diesel engines on display from private owners, a derrick crane, snow plow, hand car, a few passenger cars and a Cotton Belt GP30 (no diesel engine in it).. I've been there myself, very cool collection. I also got to go inside the GP30's cab)..
👍👍👍My Dad and a lot of other smarter people than me always said, There are no Stupid Questions. We are always learning when we don't know something. Great video Steve. Thank you.
You're right, there are no Stupid Questions. Just Stupid People. 😋
Steve, that swing bridge at 10:00 used to be hand powered back when I was a kid. Lots of us railfan kids hung out with the Kaukauna switch crew bumming cab rides and I helped turn that bridge several times. It basically had a giant box-end wrench that you'd walk around in a circle and operate the pinion gear.
Chicago and North Western used to keep a full time switcher at that mill. In the 1980s that switcher was often a "Baldwing-repower" engine that was bought from The Katy. They also used some second hand Alcos from Penn Central.
My first cab ride was right where you were standing at 10:00. Locked my 10-speed up to one of the road signs with my bike lock and away I went.
Different world then.
Those black cars are woodchip cars. The doors open from the end as you said The long drawbars on some of the freight cars are cushioned drawbars, versus the "rigid" drawbar on, say, the woodchip car. When you make a coupling to a car with a cushioned drawbar, it will shove into the pocket and absorb some the energy from the coupling, providing a "smoother" impact. When you couple to a rigid drawbar, it is just a solid hit with no give. Oversimplified explanation, but hope you get the idea.
These particular woodchip gons are made to end dump with those gates. Other woodchip gons are unloaded with a rotary unloader.
I, live in Detroit, Michigan. I, remember when Grand Trunk and Western was a main Railroad Company, in the Detroit and Southeastern Michigan area. Then, Canadian National Railroad bought Grand Trunk and Western. I, am glad to see that the Grand Trunk Engines have not been scrapped, and still being used elsewhere.
You are correct about the bridge at 17:00. That line used to go all the way to Manitowoc.
Before Chicago and North Western the railroad was known as The Milwaukee Lakeshore and Western.
In Kaukauna where the Pizza Hut and Fire Department there was a HUGE MLS&W shop and roundhouse facility.
Really enjoy all of your videos, and your other channels. I really enjoy your commentary.
That was good. I enjoyed watching what it takes to move cars around. Keep up the good work.
There looked like some red oak and ash logs with the pine logs that was wood chips and sawdust coming off the belt line it's mostly slabs that are chipped up from where there squaring up the logs to cut lumber or 2X4 ECT. and there some of the chip's from clear cutting land where they chip the hole tree . as far as that car some places tilt the car up to unload it some roll the car over to empty them like coal cars was that a paper mill or a mill that makes chip boards 4'X8'X 1/2" ECT. ? But stay safe keep the video's coming
Great video Steve..lots of cool views and interesting action! Keep em coming!
Great catch of the GT local switching procedures! 1st time I've seen those pulp cars being switched out. What a neat facility especially w the trackmobile and I recently found one at a model train show. I had been looking for one online but nobody had them. This one I got for $30 and had never been used and will run on my layout. Thanks again for sharing your videos with us along with your time and effort!
I live just over 1,000 feet from that caboose now. Don't know how long it's been for sale, but it's been for sale at least a month now.
I checked and counted 5 locks in kaukauna.
What are they asking for it Ed?
Thanks for sharing this stuff! I have never been around switches and swing bridges!
Nice chase video!
I don't know if they're for sale, but there are two cabooses (cabeese?) sitting on State Road 3 north of Fort Wayne, an old NW with the cupola on top and a Southern bay window style. They used to be home to a little salon back in the nineties, but they've been sorely neglected for a long time now and need to be rescued before they fall apart. You'd be my hero if you could save them, Steve.
On a serious note I plan on buying property to use for my shop. I'd like to have one for an office. But that's a ways out.
@@fscrailroad2321 I hope you can find a more rough one so you can restore it than one that's in tip top shape
That's a lot of wood! He powering them baby's up!
Good video. Enjoy the switching and the telephoto lens. Gives us a good close view
Pretty cool stuff at the looks like lumber yard, waiting for the train to go. Stuff I havent seen before.
Woah 2 GT engines
Steve, try 153.38 for the frequency for the papermill.
also 462.300 & 467.300
I will add them. Thank you.
Great video Steve thanks for sharing stay safe.
The log cars might possibly have come from the E&LS RR in Iron Mountain Michigan, on the original Milwaukee Road track since 1980, and Jason Asselin has hundreds of videos about them. So watch for a certain log car with a certain number. And watch Jasons' videos 📹. And you can watch the empty car going North. And the loaded cars going South to Kaukauna. This is like a captive service, because when the cars arrive in Green Bay they are transferred directly to the C.N., and assembled into either the afternoon train that usually departs around 3:00 pm. Or the evening train departing around 10:00 pmcd also 2200 Hours. A GREAT AND FANTASTIC Place to watch the departure is next to the C&NW Station at 200 Dousman Street that was built in 1898. Then it was the headquarters of the 4 divisions like the West line to Wausau and Eland Junction to Rhinelander, but in 1993 when CNW was merged into U.P. RR. the Wausau line was abandoned and ripped off and made into the nature trail. But the track must be rebuilt into both a commuter railroad to provide alternate transport in place of the expensive gas for autos. And a steam powered excursion train for tourism using steam locomotives and coaches from various different other rail collections,, and also some of the original "400" and 1956 Bi-Level coaches, pulled by Historic E.M.D. F7A STREAMLINERS that are currently for sale in 2022, and with a dining car and meals featuring farm fresh Wisconsin food. We wanted to use the ELS RR but the track needs repairs. Or the C.N. either going South to Appleton. Or North to Marinette, but C.N. currently doesn't permit excursions. Or the GBW to New London, but the track was ripped off after 1996, but luckily we can rebuild it with new heavy rails for a comfortable ride, and create a brand new and independent shortline!! OK!! Let's GO!! ALL ABOARD THE GREEN BAY DINNER TRAIN!! 🍽 😋 😀 😍 😊 👌 🍽 !! GOD BLESS THE U.S.A 🇺🇸 🙌 🙏 ❤ 💖!!!!! ALLELUIA!!!!! AMEN!!!!! WED.6.29.22.A.D.
Being my Ham Radio pick-up Railways too, I need to start listening for local traffic! ja ja ja ja
The guy on the ground is what the CN calls a freight conductor, when I started in 94' we were called switchman.
The man on the ground is the Conductor. He’s in charge of the placement of the railroad cars to the industries.
You Jaw Tooth and I use same radios. I wish I could get a list of fx
I just google it.
Steve you need an air horn like that on Orwell. How much wood could a wood buff buff if a wood buff could buff wood?
Great video Steve.
I want a caboose to .. you see them at ppl houses in northern Michigan .. cool man cave type thing ... But .. my wife is cool herself I'd find her in there jamming to her music relaxing hangout lol
The TPPX cars are top loaded and unloaded from the top also. A friend of mine works at that mill on the chip pile dozer. I myself have switched the old thilmany mill a couple times back in the late 90's when I worked out of neenah yard!
Longer drawbars are cushioned cars and shorter ones are non cushioned.
That's a Two Man Crew Engineer and a Conductor He will perform the Brakeman's job...
What kind of scanner or radio do you use?
weight distribution? maybe that explains why one is short and the other is long
Lots of potential with a caboose Steve I would make a little home out of the caboose and live happily ever after
Around here that wood is known as...'toothpicks'.
I think the Rock Island would like it back…
Rail king is a private channel at the mill
Steve, I like to see you and Jaw Tooth together one day filming trains.
my guess its cedar
Nobody appreciates things like this, let alone what it take to make certain product
Welcome to today’s educational system
Paper mill or pine pulpwood. Probably paper mill the open cars are carrying pine chips... Someone smarter than I maybe can enlighten me.