How much fuel does Kia XCeed PHEV use?
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You are in Norway with a very good network charging station whatever pure EV car you drive. In France, for non Tesla driver, it is just a nightmare for long distance trip, almost no fast charger or supercharger stations on highways. For your daily drive, it is not an issue if you can charge at home or at work. Love your channel.
France does not have Ionity?
@@YusukeShirogane What ? France is covered in Ionity Chargers. You havent done much research. France has about 55 Ionity Stations spread all over the Country. ionity.eu/#
@@itsfahys try to go from belgium to the mont blanc tunnel with a BMW i3 94Ah
@@itsfahys look for an Ionity station close to Paris and on the highway to Lille or Valenciennes, it is like a 🏜 desert. Now, on the A1, Total just opened a supercharger charging station with 8 stales on the first service station from Paris but the Kw is at about 0,70€/Kw (to be confirm).
@Flex En Masse don't you guys have grid problems?
The fuel filling process was hilarious.
Thanks to detecting that he is going to fill up a tank with a gasoiline rather than diesel.
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@Canaan Maison lately I have been using FlixZone. You can find it by googling :)
Plug-ins are good for 1 type of people only: if you live in a city and do only about 40km of daily driving, you can just charge it at night on a regular plug. For any other type of customer depending on where you live, a full ev, regular hybrid or ICE is the better choice.
Hey Bjoern, how many kilometers did you drive this year?. Must be a new record - you are amazing in what you are doing for electric mobility. Thank you very much.
50k
Norway seems to be a very nice and quiet country to live in, with a very high commitment in environment preservation! My next stay will be there!
Being used to EUR, the gas pump was giving me soo much anxiety with the fast-rising numbers 😬
Just divided it by 10 and it will go away ;)
Very good review, thanks. 154 kg heavier than the diesel XCeed, 262 kg heavier than the lightest petrol XCeed.. 117 kg onboard battery (in the XCeed plug-in hybrid). I think that Kia is doing something right producing plugin hybrids that shows decently low petrol consumption in hybrid mode on longer trips. Getting more curious how other plug-in hybrid would match the XCeed in same test.
My Chevy Volt 2010 design 2013 build runs at 5.5 l/100km once the battery is at or near zero. My Prius C non-plug in hybrid runs at 3.9 l/100km. Much lighter car. Volt range about 70 km, so due to mainly city driving Volt life long consumption is 0.8 l/100 km. Even when wife drives 0 l_100km . Prius C is only 5.5 l/100km when wife drives. Leadfoot.
@@cavramau yes, this test shows consumption on least favorable case. Most people have more city and start stop driving within electric range. But this is still relevant test.
Congratulations on 200k subs!
What you film really canon well filmed Björn I like your videos will soon buy kia plugin hybrid myself in sweden thanks for your videos
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Wonder how a Mercedes A250e, which can charge faster would do in this test?
And people are complaining about plug type chaos.
An there are more kinds of fossil. There is also CNG and LPG.
I nästa liv ska jag bli norrman. Älskar Norge.
Bra video. Ska åka och titta på en Xceed plugin hybrid 2021 imorgon. :)
incredible the range you get from such a small fuel tank
Hi Bjørn,thanks for your Videos and especially this. Comparison with eNiro is very helpful. Long time ago i Test drove a model s and EQC. Tesla did not convince me finally due to poor build quality and noise on higher speeds. EQC i do not want to spend that much money. Looked for an mercedes c or e class as hybrid. More quiet but still expensive and no full electric. So i am finally in the area of Kia ceed, xceed as PHEV and eNiro. Difficult to decide, eNiro might win.
The mitsubishi outlander phev has chademo fast charging
In a gas only car going downhill, you can use lower gear and engine braking instead of friction brakes to slow down. Steep downhills might need friction brakes though.
Yes. But fuel consumption in pure fossil car can only be zero. In PHEV, you can regen back energy.
What was that code again? I have forgotten it already😬
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I’m not really sold as of yet on an EV for long trips but for around town daily driving absolutely. For example my current car, VW Jetta 2019 1.4t will get 4.7 l/100km even with an average speed of 125 km/h for an entire tank, but during COVID driving strictly short distance for 3 tanks I’ve only been able to achieve 8.6 l/100km even with conservative shifting at 2k rpm. My plan is to get the ID4 as my next daily driver once available and save the current car as a backup and for long trips only. I think a hybrid like this is the worst possible combination, it has all the complexity of an ICE engine combined with electric added on, I’ll stick to my 6 speed manual and a pure electric later.
Your Jetta will probably average 5-6 l/100 km if I drove it on this actual route.
My parrents just got the new Mercedes B250e and it charges with 7.4 kW 16A on two phases
PHEV saving on fuel is a myth busted. My old Volvo V50 1.8 back in 2010 used to consume the same amount of gasoline on highways in long distance.
Agree, my 200 hp BMW diesel, can do on a long trip 5L / 100km
You guys miss the whole point of PHEV. They don't excel at long trips. They excel at daily commute with decent long trip capability.
You bought a 5 NOK HotDog? That's just over EUR 0.50. !! Man, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be eating a 50c hotdog! Looked good, though!
Is it enough powerful (105hp) when the battery is empty, especially for a family trip (3 or 4 persons with luggage)? Thx in advance.
Maybe non-Norwegian viewers don't know what "being sunnmøring" means. Sunnmøre is an area of Norway around Ålesund where the people are "known" to be stingy, as with Scottish people. Or economically aware or clever moneywise as I would call it, as half a sunnmøring myself. Also "know" to be enterprising and entrepreneurial peoples. As the myth goes. They will however drown if they fall off their normally very large fishing boats at sea as they swim in a raking in style (hence rich) with their hands instead of moving hands outwards as normal people would swim.
What is your opinion on hydrogen cars? better or worse than an electric cars? more, less or equal pollutant?
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not working cause petrol station love only old smoking cars !! and yours is too clean and new !|! ; )
Wow i cant believe diesel is cheaper than petrol in norway its the opposite in the uk
It’s always been that way here for as long as I can remember.
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Magari se viene caricata più spesso i consumi sarebbero migliori........
Going to camping holidays with the Skoda Octavia combi, I need 4.4ltr/100km of diesel for the 1150km highway trip while sticking to the 130kph speed limit. With a family of four, full to the ceiling of the trunk, and the bicycles attached to the back. This PHEV with 5.5litr of E95, sitting alone at 90km/h, what's the point ?
The point is 0 emissions in the daily city commute. The money/energy ratio is not always comparable. PHEV are not perfect transport machines, even EV's are not with today's battery technology and fossil thinking car manufacturers.
Today's EV must be lighter and as aerodynamic as possible. The diesel engine in your car is perfect for long family holyday trips, but what about if you need to go to the near food shop...? Cold engine - less efficiency, more CO2, harmful impact to the DPF...an so on.
The country I live is full with old diesel cars, yesterday my city was in top 10 among the most polluted cities in the world.
Did you drive over mountains and have shitty weather on your trip? I don't think so.
a Plug Hybrid car is not ment to do what you did.
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Happy im not living in Norway, horrible place boring, Copenhagen so much better.
Norway is a million times nicer than your homeland OTTO and the people too. You could learn from them.
Hi, I have a KIA CEED PHEV 2022. I'm very disappointed how the hybrid system works. If it low temperature outside (below 10 C) then the petrol engine always starts if the so if im driving under 10km it never runs purly on electricity.
Or if the AC is runing the petrol engien starts.
So the petrol enginen is always running when heating or cooling...
My advise, dont buy a KIA
Under 10km?
thumbs down for the profanity.
The fuel pump had handshake problem 🤣
Next time when you're getting gas please calculate the pump's charging speed in kW based on the energy that a liter of gasoline has. That's gonna be interesting. 😁
Assuming that he started refueling at 18:33 and finished at 19:29 and that 1L of fuel is equivalent to 8.9kWh (as per his last video) it would translate into 26.61 litres of fuel delivered in 56 seconds or 0.48 l/s. This gives you 4.22kWh per second of energy or a "charging" speed of 15,224kW. Pretty fast!
I calculated before and it was about 10.000 km/h or something. But the interesting part is how much extra overtime you have to work for it.
Some day people will look at diesel spills the same way we look at horse manure in the road today
🏍 already do
Yes, here in US, those who know tend to avoid the gas pumps which will also dispense diesel, since there’s always an oily spot to stand in.
Diesel is way worse than horse manure, in every way.
Bmw 5 Series. 520d. Stage 1. (225hp) 4.6l/100km. At 120-130km/h
For me it seems that most of hibrid vehicles are not that cheap to run !
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Well , I can compare this to my Passat GTE first generation. Avereage consum. 20kwh /100km
Charge at home 0.15 Euro/kwh incl tax. So total cost for driving 100km on electric is 3 euro
I drive to work 25km one way and charge at work at acost of 0.3 euro/kwh.
So the avereage cost for 100km is 4.5 Euro. This is in Sweden , the diesel is expensive.
And I only drive 20000 to 23000 km/year so thats work for me.
If i did drive 35000km or more/year i would also get a diesel
Why ? well because even if you charge a PHEV 2times /workday , you can only drive it 12000to 14000 km on electric /year . You will not be able to charge it much more/day
The fuel economy isn't that impressive actually, many fossil only cars can achieve these numbers, even better.
Exactly. I agree
@@yourcrazybear Also agree. Cities are the right environment where PHEV really can shine. However I think that a proper PHEV should have, at least, 100 km of true autonomy.
Can you give us an example, please?
10-20 mins messing about at the fuel pump seems ok for almost 700km range 🤷♂️
One thing that sucks about fuelling up is that you literally have to stand there and wait for the car to fill up. Okay most of the time but in cold it sucks, so for half the year in Canada I hate going to the gas station. Also after using an EV for a while, it’s so stupid that I have to take the car somewhere else to fill up vs on my driveway. Long road trips tho, the leaf wouldn’t cut it, so I always take fossil!
@@harsimranbansal5355 I mean you could just put the nozzle in and get in the car again and just wait until it finishes
@@KownKR7 that’s the issue. Toronto and nearby these stupid pumps literally cut off the metal holder to keep pumping fuel without holding it. Only Costco keeps it but there aren’t many Costco pumps.
Not possible in Norway and Sweden.
@@harsimranbansal5355 Wtf why?
Firstly, great video, I have just ordered my Xceed and watched your video twice for information as part of my research. One thing I found is that a PHEV type car is pointless if you are making long trips, using motorways a lot, because it will use mostly the petrol engine and though decent in that regard, as you showed yourself, it is not the best. Where this type of car excels, and this is why I choose the Xceed, is the ultra-urban trips, in and out of town where you use the electric drive more often, benefit from the slow self-charging from the wheels and of course, most importantly, the free charging points in shopping areas. And with a PHEV, plug it in!!! Thanks
"I feel like peeing soon, but have plenty of fuel in the tank"
Ohh please Bjørn, don't pee in the fuel tank! *LOL*
Great video, as always :D
How many banana boxes are fitting in to the Kia?
what do you mean?
@@gdwlaw5549 Björn usualy tests how many banana boxes he can place in to a car.
Try the Mercedes GLE 350de, it has a small ish Diesel engine combined with a plug-in hybrid system with 100km range. It supports 60kW DC charging as well. I think that you should be able to get good fuel economy figures out of it!
bjorn you are super! i like you and your crazy test!
Very interesting video to balance between choosing plugin or pure electric vehicle. Thanks.
If you drove let's say 60km on electricity, then the number comes to 6l/100km in normal hybrid mode. That's the same as the mild hybrid version. So seems like the advantage of the big battery disappears as soon as the charge runs out. Is that correct Or am I mistaken?
Too funny, got a COLGATE ad at the start 🦷
Yes, when there is a diesel spill on the grounds of the pump and you step in it.. it's very slippery on your pedals (brakes!!) It takes ages to "disappears" and fingers smells for ages -why I use plastic gloves.
That’s actually great fuel economy.
I don't find it so stunning, many fossil cars can go for 5,5l/100km for a long distances without complicated hybrid technology.
my old Citroen C5 diesel can go below 5L - even 4,6 in good conditions, on roads with speed limit 90km/h, 110 km/h nad moderate traffic
@ My Fiat Grande Punto 1.9 mulijet with remap (160hp) can do 4 l/100 at 90, and 5.0 at 110. Euro 4 engine.
Nah not to great or diesel passat has an average of 5l/100km. Over the past 12500km
now the us gas prices are gonna be $5 a gallon with joe biden in offfice so more people are going to use ev!
His average was $6 per gallon and you see prices of $7 per gallon quite often here in Nordics. These kind of 50+ mpg cars are very popular here.
@@smokyislay i bet people here especially where i live in the midwest eveybody drives old, large v8 vehicles getting like 15mpg
Holy shiiiiiiiiiit! Love it!
"I want to drive to Stavanger today".
Been there, done that. In a Tesla loaner :)
I always try to charge my PHEV where possible, even if it takes a little walk.
Good video with a lot of dedication as always! Nice one Björn!
I need help!
At 6:55 you can see that you have 0km left on electric driving but the battery has got 12 % left. Why is this? I bought Xceed yesterday and on this low percentage, it wont let me drive on electric. Why is that? Is it a setting? Can't find the answerd anywhere...
About 10%/ battery energy is saved for pure hybrid mode(starting electric and accelerating fossil fuel engine). Below this limit you can't drive fully electrical
0:56 That is CCS-dino v0.1 protocol 😅
I have been passing or parked near charging points for two years now paying great attention to what cars are charging as part of deciding which EV id like to buy. I have only ever seen one PHEV take the time to charge Just one. I also have a few friends with them and all admit they don't bother saying charging is to slow on their ones. That's just my experience if it. This along with multiple studies showing that phevs emit more co2 than claimed. I think they have had their day. just go full electric. far better.
Great Vid Bjorn.
I know one guy who changed from Toyota hybrid to ioniq PHEV. He was charging it at work daily full battery, so he was driving around city purely on EV. On weekends etc. he enjoyed the benefits of ICE. His average fuel consumption was 2.0L/100km :D This summer he has changed to full EV, said that is enough to charge at Friday and Monday at work and only once a few months use public charging elsewhere. But that's all posible, because Kona has quite big battery.
Very strange. Here in Finland the public slow charging points are mostly all blocked by parallel PHEVs such as Volvos, BMWs, Mitsubishi Outlanders, KIAs.
great personality and video!
Yep, Nasty.
05:50 no, not only friction brakes, then they would get very hot. They use the engine to brake.
why are the roads there so empty? Nobody is driving?
All the Norwegians are at home counting the money coming in from Norway's fossil fuel exports.
Fossile cars are to expensive and fuel will only be more expensive
Volvo XC90, 5 people, fully loaded with vacation gear, driving in summer with AC on = 85 Liter Diesel for 1.100 km. This averages 7,7 Liter per 100. One stop for refueling.
I ordered a Kia Ceed SW PHEV now. What already annoys me is the slow charging with 3.4kw max. Paired with a 37 Liter tank sucks. But the lease rate is 200 Euro only, including Service & Maintenance.
Driving EV cars in Portugal is not a solution if you need to do a long trip. And even Tesla have to struggle a little. A good PHEV may be the solution, although I’m not sure that, in a long trip, it would help lower consumption. I have a Volvo V60 T6 with 310 hp and, at legal speed, I could drive 600 kms before I have to fill up again. I driven a Volvo v60 T8 (PHEV) and the range, on the same long trip was the same.
Is it powerfull enough to maintain 130km/h even in rises when the batterie is like 8% ? Not understand everything with thé sport mod at 125kmh, it does not recharge the batterie ? so How do you regen from 10% to 40% ? Thx
Did you bring a nail to lock the handle so it fills while you clean the windows? Once upon a time there were catches to half speed and full speed fill. Then one day about 20 years ago the catches were removed and there were little holes where the dates were. Nail did the trick.
Did you know gasoline is one of the few prices where Norway is cheaper than The Netherlands? You pay about 1.25 euro per liter when you said it was expensive. We pay 1.55 euro to 1.75 euro per liter...
Good intro. I had that same nasty smell on my hands after driving last 3 months on my MS 70D but had to tank winter diesel to not freeze my ICE car. And btw my ICE car is an 15 year old Renault Megane and has the same average fuel consumption as that PHEV. With city drives included!
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Diesel pumps can lock the trigger on place in Norway. But supposedly not with gasoline.
Is he Singapore or Chinese?
he's norwegian
instant subscribe, really lovely
If someone want to drive Electric, need All weel drive and a trailer hitch, dont't want to pay that much for eTron, EQC or iPace and his dayli driving profile matches to a distance of 50km the answer is Outlander PHEV. Otherwise buy a full electric car like eNiro.
The Skoda Enyaq can tow.
this video is nothing special for a plug in hibrid !! couse, a regular kia niro, without plug in, can drive over 1000 km with one full tank. In fact, even 1100 km! and the regulat hibrids are much cheaper than plug in ones !
But the point is that *lots* of people buy PHEV nowadays.
Which religion is you
Too expensive
Very informative 👌
Nice. I like the look of the car and I bet it's a nice package, but I wish it had a little more grunt for 1.6l.
I hope you'll test some of the VAG PHEVs like the Golf 8 GTE or the Seat Leon eHybrid that's being launched now.. I'm looking towards those for the 200+ HP
It's naaaaasty 😂👍
Please more PHEV videos!
Opel Astra - 5.8l/100km at 130km/h
In the Winter with snowy roads?
@@PhilippStadler Acually in summer with AC ON.
That has doubled your refuelling time from 5 to 10 mins.
Timestamp?
@@bjornnyland why?
@@bjornnyland 1.11
@@keithware5314 thanks for the timestamp .. i was wondering which refueling station you meant 😅
@@DJRaffa1000 👍
PHEV cars are just for manufactures to gain more money from those people, who haven't tried EV, but are afraid of it (range anxiety), so they see the PHEV as a best way for them.
Also in many countries PHEV with their co2 < 49g/100km have/had the same or some incentives as EVs and many company cars in Netherlands and UK have chosen them as the best options (e.g., Outlander PHEVs are very popular)
For a long distance driving phevs are a joke .Get similar number on my old Renault sport tourer petrol with 5 people on bord,summer (14c)
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Waat?? You have cheaper gasoline in Norway than in Finland?? Your government should put up more tax on gasoline and diesel. Yes!! Taxing for the win!!
With the Prius PHEV you will get 4,5 l/100 km. It's the most efficient car of its class.
That's because Prius drivers consistently drive under the speed limits.
@@bjornnyland You can be the first Prius driver to prove it's still true when driving faster.
The PHEV even has a charge-mode, which allows to charge the battery full again while driving. Some people claim this makes sense when you drive on country roads up to 100 km/h when the ICE is not fully stressed. And the car has a heat pump, which makes it possible to run the heating even at -10°C without the ICE. I'm sure the XCeed can't do this.
@@gerbre1 There are no dedicated recharge mode as far as I am aware (Niro owner here). The Kias recharge more aggressively (and I wonder if the regenerative brakes are stronger) in "Sport mode", that way you build up an electric reserve. No heat pump unfortunately.
@@JanHenrik541 Prius PHEV has it all.
Hi, any plans to test the MG HS PHEV? Thanks
Don't use phone while filling petrol ESD can cause fire🔥
Timestamp?
@@bjornnyland phone or any electric device. But he was not filming and fuelling (really fuel flowing) in the same time
Bjorn is not filming with phone ... he is using proper camcorder
Phones and electronics don't cause static electricity, that is a myth that was myth busted on the myth busters show.
Static electricity comes from rubbing different materials together, like when you get in and out of the car.
@@jakobnev5973 in my country prohibit mobile phone use near pump
Pretty much the same cost per km, good choice to buy this PHEV for driving electric in the city or commuting to work and fossil to long trips. BTW what is the name of the B roll track on 12:00 and 14:30 and where can i find it to dl.