❤phil i know you already know this but... If you put the ramp in the centre of the white lines on the grass it makes it a lot easier to hit the ramp in the centre
16:01 👀👀 👏👏 nailed the front flip with a twist reverse backflip!?!?!?!? Or at least something like that. 😂😂 Big Rock for the win imo! Shocks are a needed upgrade if you're really bashing the Big Rock. Great video Tomley sucks about the GoPro, I use the subscription service for cloud storage, device replacements and discounts 👊👊👍👍
I made a super cheap ramp out of Corrugated Fluted Board, (real-estate agents use it as the for sale signs when you sell your house.)Any way long story short you can usually get it free second hand, it cuts with a knife or scissors, you just screw a couple of timber supports in & bam, you have a light weight stong ramp, at your desired width. No more missing the target Phill. 😅
I have built one with a corrugated flute board and my Arma Kraton blew right threw it. I'm sure it's good with 1/10 scale but my 1/8th and 1/5th blew it to pieces. Maybe I should have doubled up on the ramp face.
@FarmerFpv yeah I have an outcast 4s, my neighbor has a 3s granite, single layer did blow right through, double layer is indestructible, but still low weight.
That ramp is JUNNNK Phil! You know Ramps are easy to build, you have an impact, so all's you really need is a jigsaw (very easy to use). For $175 you could build multiple ramps and choose the angles. There's videos all over YT, it would also make a good video for your channel. You worked on helicopters, building ramps will be fluffy cake.
Should have made your own ramp, the wood likely to have cost you a lot less than half the price of that mess. Would have been correct size you wanted as well.
I’ m a big fan of the MT-10! I absolutely love that truck and own one myself Thanks to the Rc Elf, but this Maverick has captured my interest lately and I think out of this bunch was my favorite of the 3. Really fun video Phil! Sorry you broke you go pro and hope you have a spare or 2 laying around! Have a great weekend my friend!😎✌🏼
@anthonysemaan8362 in my experience the big rock is more durable than the rival MT10 which by itself is quite durable rc car. I bash my rc cars quite hard. the 3S line is very durable.
Use Yacht Varnish on that wood ramp ⛵ it'll presurve it for your Grandchildren to play with your toys.. Crikey Tomly doing some Bashing, well done good vid...That black colour is called Gun Metal, I thought you'd know seeing you worked for the RAF... 🤠
A while ago I found a portable collapsible ramp called killaramp on the bay. To me it looks like they were built from snow plows cut in half or similar. They had two different widths, luckily I got one of each. Since I bought mine I cannot find them anymore for sale anywhere but the video is still here on youtube if you search. I've hit mine full speed with a 6S Kraton and it loves it.
Our fix for the ramp we built was to carpet it with exterior boat deck carpeting (looks like short, fake grass) and staple it down with a length running off the entry of the ramp, replacing the metal lip. It seemed to greatly reduce the shock of first hitting the ramp and gave beautifully consistent behavior. Really fun video to watch, cheers!
I have the same question. I just got in to the hobby, full rookie here, and I think my GP would be too heavy for what I have. At least 2 heavy for jumps.
SB must stand for 'Sneaky Buggers'; hope they improve their QC going forward. Bit like burger chain photos of the food vs the squashed mess you actually get! Thanks for standing up & showing up what is a good basic product but needs some proper QC.
Im a big fan. Watch every vid and have right back to the garage days.....but..... it feels like a some of the vids are getting a bit similar... ie lets either take it down the skatepark and launch it or in this case a ramp or rip it up and down the dirt and it does X speed on Y cells. Dunno. Just sharing my opinion and still very much a big fan of the channel. Would love to see some build and mod vids (the huge truck is very interesting for example) or what about a top gear style challange.... £100 ebay challange youtuber race.. i realise coming up with ideas AND keeping up the volume of content for us lot is hard. You do a great job. I suppose thinking about it is im asking for my cake (regular content) and eating it (new and interesting ideas)😊 Come on Phil sort it out lol
This year I've decided to do less videos, but take more time making them. I'ver also started putting some stuff over on the 2nd channel ( www.youtube.com/@tomley_rc ) which normally would have been on here. So the 'mix' of videos its not as much as it usually it. Although, if you look at my last 10 videos... there is still a little variety
@@TomleyRC hi Phil. Very true i did just look back at the vid list to see if i was talking out my back end and there certainly is variety. Maybe im just anti bash lol 🙂 anyway keep up the good work and thanks for the quick reply. One thing i do welcome in any vid is your good comentry on the handling, i tend to find a much bigger difference in how cars handle vs speed and even durability ( most are pretty good on both these days) i tend to find thats the biggest fun factor for me anyway when you have a nice handling car and some are much better than others
I built a few ramps in my time and still have two of them, they are almost double the width and cost 30 bucks material each... the seven year olds love them, as they are almost neutral, when you buld up speed bravely and just coast over them: The trick was to take a cardboard-copy of the shape your favourite jump at the skatepark has. You can do it!
I designed, laser cut, formed and built my own ramp out of 2mm aluminium at my workplace with the kind permission of my boss. It's an awesome bit of kit and I even included some detachable grass spikes.
This is why I only buy Raha Ramps. They are designed and built in the USA and you can jump your full-size motocross bike off them. The prices are also good for how tall and wide the ramps are. They send you to the moon. The guy is a professional FMX rider who designs the ramps.
The big rock may have jumped the furthest, but IMO it performed the worst of all 3 which kinda surprised me. Plus it broke. The winner of this particular bashing session IMO was the Quantum. 🙌🏼
Might be fun to see a Phil cam picture in picture deal. We see you lift the controller and your expression, and the og shot! Great video as usual. Thanks for sharing.
I thought it was a great test. All three performed well. The HPI di very well. I was thinking before the the jumps that you are landing on wet ground which will be soft and nothing will break. That wasn't the case. II wonder of the wet ground grabbed the trucks when they landing and caused some things to break. Some of the landings were at odd angles. I like the plastic skateboard jumps. They are easy to store, no screws to come loose and they don't rot. This was a simple video, but a lot of fun. RIP go pro.
This was bloody brilliant Phil, sorry for the misfortune of absolutely whipping out the go pro ouch! I’m definitely guilty of laughing very hard when that happened 🤦♂️😂! Very entertaining shootout!
Hey Phil... Interesting video.. I have a new'ish BigRock and on its 2nd run out I hit a rock head on. My rear right shock also came apart, it looked identical to yours. Thing is, when I stripped the shock, there was no rubber piston in the tube, and the nut was off the end of the shock shaft. The shock tube was undamaged, the shaft had just pulled out. Arrma QC??? I did contact Arrma, but they didnt seem interested.. Would be interesting to see if its the same thing on yours though!
Hahaha I see a bit of Kev coming out in you. I think you are starting to feel the phrases "when in doubt, air it out!!!" 😅😂 That was a very touching send off of the gopro. This was your biggest "full send" production. Also, did I miss the final installment of the apocalypse train/monster truck or is it still in the works? I'm looking forward to see that thing in its full glory crawling over something. Then shelling a zombie encampment. lol
My cousin has a farm in upstate Michigan and I run my Arrma through the cow fields. The cows love the change in their day. The only down fall is cleaning all the cow shit off the car afterwards. I have to keep that car in the garage.
leave THAT up to KT...but I was thinking he could have done the run up on the asphalt and do the landing on the grass....but then if he missed the ramp he'd have the solid wooden bollards to deal with....
Hey Phil! I just wanted to extend my thanks for the videos you put out, I just ordered my first "Hobby grade?" RC the ARRMA Senton 2WD with battery and charger included, $280 CAD (just over £160)! Without your videos I wouldn't have ever considered spending close to that, I hope it will be as much fun to run and work on as you make it
I have all 3 trucks & luv them all, the stand out for me though is the new Quantum2. The differences between this new Quantum2 & the old one it replaces is night & day, durability is off the scale now. Well done HPI, hoping to see more future models from them.
Why are we not surprised you had the most problems with the Big Rock! We have had many issues with the shocks on ours (and other issues all over). And the cheapest car took the least damage, that will be our favorite
You should 3D print you some cones😉 being what theyd’d be made of they’d have laughed instead of shatter💥 Phil and maybe even some body pins too or something 🧐🤤 Awesome show 😎
Here in the USA. You could go to a place such as Lowes or Home Depot and make a ramp from scratch thats 4 ft wide and about 4 foot long for the same price. Excluding your labor and battery charge cost. Not ment to put anyone down...just pointing out you can do things cheaper yourself.
I am just from one year in this hobby, a couple of your videos i watched enough for me to start this hobby, This hobby is practiced by the number of fingers on one hand, so every single thing i want to buy it i must to make online order outside my country, i hope i can win one of those cars, Best regards
Hows it? Late. Dropping in to support and show love. Wooo👍Always before play. Team associated i love. Nice. Love the vid. Keep them coming my friend.💪🏼💯👍👊🏻
Also keep up the funy point video input in your edits they are always worth a laugh and we could all use a good laugh i think. Alex kowaliuk, cheers tim .
Like everyone else is saying, if you paint a 3 foot wide white line on the grass and place the ramp at one end of it, that should help. Only have the MT10 out of these three, so I say it's the best, even though I broke mine first time out!
I sold my big rock when I got my Mt10, because I was sick of the shocks and drive shafts breaking, the shocks pulled the rods out on the slightest roll over without bashing or jumping,
As a Mavirick Ion XT owner .. I like Maverick, but I have broken one motor, the chasis, the body and the towers and it is expensive to repair, so ... the price of the stuff is close to a total lost. But I give it a oportunity and fix it. Now looks againg nice. :)
Why are good ramps so hard to find and so expensive? This is something I've run into and I eventually shelled out way too much money for a Freshpark ramp and it works great, but it was like $250.
wow, looks like you had a blast! next jump challenge: recreate the barrel roll from james bond man with the golden gun... they did it with an amc... i bet you have something suitable. they did it, first take. cheers!
❤phil i know you already know this but... If you put the ramp in the centre of the white lines on the grass it makes it a lot easier to hit the ramp in the centre
😂
If you hit the ramp then you’ll jump
16:01 👀👀 👏👏 nailed the front flip with a twist reverse backflip!?!?!?!? Or at least something like that. 😂😂
Big Rock for the win imo! Shocks are a needed upgrade if you're really bashing the Big Rock. Great video Tomley sucks about the GoPro, I use the subscription service for cloud storage, device replacements and discounts 👊👊👍👍
The backward's facing cam on the jumps is really cool!
Long jumps without breakages equals extra points 😊
But the GoPro and cones didn't' escape carnage 😁
and extra jumps!
R.i.p. 14:44 Press F to pay Respect
I really liked adding Typhon shocks to the Bigrock. Much better. Great bash session!
I made a super cheap ramp out of Corrugated Fluted Board, (real-estate agents use it as the for sale signs when you sell your house.)Any way long story short you can usually get it free second hand, it cuts with a knife or scissors, you just screw a couple of timber supports in & bam, you have a light weight stong ramp, at your desired width.
No more missing the target Phill. 😅
I have built one with a corrugated flute board and my Arma Kraton blew right threw it. I'm sure it's good with 1/10 scale but my 1/8th and 1/5th blew it to pieces. Maybe I should have doubled up on the ramp face.
@FarmerFpv yeah I have an outcast 4s, my neighbor has a 3s granite, single layer did blow right through, double layer is indestructible, but still low weight.
That ramp is JUNNNK Phil! You know Ramps are easy to build, you have an impact, so all's you really need is a jigsaw (very easy to use). For $175 you could build multiple ramps and choose the angles. There's videos all over YT, it would also make a good video for your channel. You worked on helicopters, building ramps will be fluffy cake.
wasn't expecting the rabbit stepping in a dog egg 😂 ill admit I'm childish gave me a good laugh
Haha
Should have made your own ramp, the wood likely to have cost you a lot less than half the price of that mess. Would have been correct size you wanted as well.
Great video Phil I enjoyed watching it. But man, that’s an expensive ramp and it’s SO narrow. Those camera angles were awesome 😎
I’ m a big fan of the MT-10! I absolutely love that truck and own one myself Thanks to the Rc Elf, but this Maverick has captured my interest lately and I think out of this bunch was my favorite of the 3. Really fun video Phil! Sorry you broke you go pro and hope you have a spare or 2 laying around! Have a great weekend my friend!😎✌🏼
This is definitely a super fun vid great angles btw looks effen dope !
Fantastic flying, Phil!!! 😂
Really awesome testing and comparison!!!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Those are great cars!Love my big rock, its the strongest of them all.
@anthonysemaan8362 in my experience the big rock is more durable than the rival MT10 which by itself is quite durable rc car.
I bash my rc cars quite hard. the 3S line is very durable.
Use Yacht Varnish on that wood ramp ⛵ it'll presurve it for your Grandchildren to play with your toys.. Crikey Tomly doing some Bashing, well done good vid...That black colour is called Gun Metal, I thought you'd know seeing you worked for the RAF... 🤠
Old masters marine spar urethane is the best for outdoor . It’s better than helmsman spar urethane for sure
I wanna see this ramp with a bunch of the hyper go series bashers and buggies!
A while ago I found a portable collapsible ramp called killaramp on the bay. To me it looks like they were built from snow plows cut in half or similar. They had two different widths, luckily I got one of each. Since I bought mine I cannot find them anymore for sale anywhere but the video is still here on youtube if you search. I've hit mine full speed with a 6S Kraton and it loves it.
Our fix for the ramp we built was to carpet it with exterior boat deck carpeting (looks like short, fake grass) and staple it down with a length running off the entry of the ramp, replacing the metal lip. It seemed to greatly reduce the shock of first hitting the ramp and gave beautifully consistent behavior.
Really fun video to watch, cheers!
Hey,great video,what camera and equipment do you use for your running videos?
I have the same question. I just got in to the hobby, full rookie here, and I think my GP would be too heavy for what I have. At least 2 heavy for jumps.
Most guys seem to use the Insta360 Go 2
SB must stand for 'Sneaky Buggers'; hope they improve their QC going forward. Bit like burger chain photos of the food vs the squashed mess you actually get! Thanks for standing up & showing up what is a good basic product but needs some proper QC.
I love this guy.... never lets down .... ever ....❤
Fill the cones with concrete, you'll be more inclined to miss them lol
Im a big fan. Watch every vid and have right back to the garage days.....but..... it feels like a some of the vids are getting a bit similar... ie lets either take it down the skatepark and launch it or in this case a ramp or rip it up and down the dirt and it does X speed on Y cells. Dunno. Just sharing my opinion and still very much a big fan of the channel. Would love to see some build and mod vids (the huge truck is very interesting for example) or what about a top gear style challange.... £100 ebay challange youtuber race.. i realise coming up with ideas AND keeping up the volume of content for us lot is hard. You do a great job. I suppose thinking about it is im asking for my cake (regular content) and eating it (new and interesting ideas)😊 Come on Phil sort it out lol
This year I've decided to do less videos, but take more time making them. I'ver also started putting some stuff over on the 2nd channel ( www.youtube.com/@tomley_rc ) which normally would have been on here. So the 'mix' of videos its not as much as it usually it.
Although, if you look at my last 10 videos... there is still a little variety
@@TomleyRC hi Phil. Very true i did just look back at the vid list to see if i was talking out my back end and there certainly is variety. Maybe im just anti bash lol 🙂 anyway keep up the good work and thanks for the quick reply. One thing i do welcome in any vid is your good comentry on the handling, i tend to find a much bigger difference in how cars handle vs speed and even durability ( most are pretty good on both these days) i tend to find thats the biggest fun factor for me anyway when you have a nice handling car and some are much better than others
I built a few ramps in my time and still have two of them, they are almost double the width and cost 30 bucks material each... the seven year olds love them, as they are almost neutral, when you buld up speed bravely and just coast over them: The trick was to take a cardboard-copy of the shape your favourite jump at the skatepark has.
You can do it!
I designed, laser cut, formed and built my own ramp out of 2mm aluminium at my workplace with the kind permission of my boss. It's an awesome bit of kit and I even included some detachable grass spikes.
I love working with aluminum ❤😅
@@Ufo2__energy_freedom There's nothing more satisfying than something coming together that you've created from what started off as a simple sketch. 😊👍
This is why I only buy Raha Ramps. They are designed and built in the USA and you can jump your full-size motocross bike off them. The prices are also good for how tall and wide the ramps are. They send you to the moon. The guy is a professional FMX rider who designs the ramps.
The water spray that comes out of the truck looks like my shower ❤❤❤
I want to know more about that
@@Ufo2__energy_freedom it means that RC toy probably would shower me better than my actual home one 😂
That was fun. The jump just wasn't quite wide enough. It limited your ability to control them in the air I think. I've had that problem.
Another quality episode 👌 Thank you.
Wood expands and shrinks Phil. Wood can be a lil funny as compared to plastic or steel
No competition with the big rock ❤
If it had good tires
The sad music and fade to grey at the death of the GoPro... Making light of a downer situation got a laugh out of me😂
Love the rooster tails they are throwing.
The big rock may have jumped the furthest, but IMO it performed the worst of all 3 which kinda surprised me. Plus it broke. The winner of this particular bashing session IMO was the Quantum. 🙌🏼
Watching you lifting your arms similar to the car taking off, reminds me of my sister jumping off her chair playing Sonic!
Really Fun and awesome video Phil
Quality testing as usual 😂have a look at MTB hopper ramps
Awesomeness at peak
God Bless you
Love that product honesty, now everyone knows to steer clear and not waste their money on that company
Let's take a moment to recognize how stylishly the Armma prevented your Gopro from overheating.
haha... this is very true
I love the way you raise the controller as they take off! 😂 You are doing it for the camera shot.... I 100% do that naturally on jumps 😂😂😂
haha yeah...
Same as with a computer game controller... when you turn a corner or jump lol
Might be fun to see a Phil cam picture in picture deal. We see you lift the controller and your expression, and the og shot! Great video as usual. Thanks for sharing.
I thought it was a great test. All three performed well. The HPI di very well. I was thinking before the the jumps that you are landing on wet ground which will be soft and nothing will break. That wasn't the case. II wonder of the wet ground grabbed the trucks when they landing and caused some things to break. Some of the landings were at odd angles. I like the plastic skateboard jumps. They are easy to store, no screws to come loose and they don't rot. This was a simple video, but a lot of fun. RIP go pro.
should score this like figure skating or diving: front flip with a 1/2 gainer hahahah
The quantum flew really nicely. The first one was impressive, but I think it was because it was tumbling in the air.
Discontinued Granite mean a 2.5 with center diff is on the way? 🙏
Ok, you've had your fun. Now back to work on the T-rex!😜
Llama tough, baby! 😆
"Full beans" is such a great phrase!
I've lost count of how many times I've had to fix a granite shock. Usually bent shaft or it pulled out of the molded on lower rod-end
Wow they are making some profit on those ramps 🙀
This was bloody brilliant Phil, sorry for the misfortune of absolutely whipping out the go pro ouch! I’m definitely guilty of laughing very hard when that happened 🤦♂️😂! Very entertaining shootout!
They look awesome dude 😎💯
That ramp is why I'm currently building my own. 2 4ft wide ramps so I can clamp them together and make an 8ft wide 1 when I don't want 2
Print youot own cones -in flexible TPU- and they'll stand such impacts. ;)
Hey Phil... Interesting video.. I have a new'ish BigRock and on its 2nd run out I hit a rock head on. My rear right shock also came apart, it looked identical to yours. Thing is, when I stripped the shock, there was no rubber piston in the tube, and the nut was off the end of the shock shaft. The shock tube was undamaged, the shaft had just pulled out. Arrma QC??? I did contact Arrma, but they didnt seem interested.. Would be interesting to see if its the same thing on yours though!
Hahaha I see a bit of Kev coming out in you. I think you are starting to feel the phrases "when in doubt, air it out!!!" 😅😂 That was a very touching send off of the gopro. This was your biggest "full send" production. Also, did I miss the final installment of the apocalypse train/monster truck or is it still in the works? I'm looking forward to see that thing in its full glory crawling over something. Then shelling a zombie encampment. lol
My cousin has a farm in upstate Michigan and I run my Arrma through the cow fields. The cows love the change in their day. The only down fall is cleaning all the cow shit off the car afterwards. I have to keep that car in the garage.
Grass jumps are safe.
Do the same on concrete😁
leave THAT up to KT...but I was thinking he could have done the run up on the asphalt and do the landing on the grass....but then if he missed the ramp he'd have the solid wooden bollards to deal with....
Hey Phil! I just wanted to extend my thanks for the videos you put out, I just ordered my first "Hobby grade?" RC the ARRMA Senton 2WD with battery and charger included, $280 CAD (just over £160)! Without your videos I wouldn't have ever considered spending close to that, I hope it will be as much fun to run and work on as you make it
Excellent choice. I bought a brushless wltoys but wish I had gotten something more versatile. That Senton should treat you well for a long time
I have all 3 trucks & luv them all, the stand out for me though is the new Quantum2. The differences between this new Quantum2 & the old one it replaces is night & day, durability is off the scale now. Well done HPI, hoping to see more future models from them.
Yeah, it’s so good… and for the money, so much value
I can't believe how much the ramp cost you ! 😮
Just get 2 of those plastic ramps. That makes it a wide hard to miss ramp or a crazy double steep fly high ramp 😅
What camera are you mounting to the trucks?
Rival MT10 for me, though the Quantum Flux is looking pretty solid!
MT10 for me as well. Durability is exceptional.
Why are we not surprised you had the most problems with the Big Rock! We have had many issues with the shocks on ours (and other issues all over). And the cheapest car took the least damage, that will be our favorite
Phil "The Cone Killer"
😅
Your on a field fill of straight lines😂😂😂
I love the big rock
You should 3D print you some cones😉 being what theyd’d be made of they’d have laughed instead of shatter💥 Phil and maybe even some body pins too or something 🧐🤤
Awesome show 😎
Car flying perfectly straight.. *hits brakes*
I call it ‘The Top Gun’
‘Gonna hit the brakes, he’ll fly right by’ 😇
Here in the USA.
You could go to a place such as Lowes or Home Depot and make a ramp from scratch thats 4 ft wide and about 4 foot long for the same price.
Excluding your labor and battery charge cost.
Not ment to put anyone down...just pointing out you can do things cheaper yourself.
Big rock will flip all ways. Front, back, and usually a bunch of cartwheels. lol. ESP with high speed pinion.
Good vid ❤
I am just from one year in this hobby, a couple of your videos i watched enough for me to start this hobby, This hobby is practiced by the number of fingers on one hand, so every single thing i want to buy it i must to make online order outside my country, i hope i can win one of those cars,
Best regards
I like Tomley and peanut butter
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At the same time?
R.I.P. Gerald the GoPro. You were a real one.
Fun video, thank you 😊
Hi tomley🤗
Hows it? Late. Dropping in to support and show love. Wooo👍Always before play. Team associated i love. Nice. Love the vid. Keep them coming my friend.💪🏼💯👍👊🏻
Also keep up the funy point video input in your edits they are always worth a laugh and we could all use a good laugh i think. Alex kowaliuk, cheers tim .
Like everyone else is saying, if you paint a 3 foot wide white line on the grass and place the ramp at one end of it, that should help. Only have the MT10 out of these three, so I say it's the best, even though I broke mine first time out!
I sold my big rock when I got my Mt10, because I was sick of the shocks and drive shafts breaking, the shocks pulled the rods out on the slightest roll over without bashing or jumping,
Thanks for sharing!!
No problem 😊
Thats what we call a RC CC. RC Cone's Carnage! ;)
Arrma "toughness" at its best.
£174 for that ramp?!?! They saw you coming! 😂😂
its hard to land a Front Flip if the battery is just on one side.. makes it wanna twist , you gotta power out right
Give the quality and amount of wood, I suspect you feel like I did after assembling a particularly crap greenhouse.
As a Mavirick Ion XT owner .. I like Maverick, but I have broken one motor, the chasis, the body and the towers and it is expensive to repair, so ... the price of the stuff is close to a total lost. But I give it a oportunity and fix it. Now looks againg nice. :)
I love the AE!
hello from Greece 🇬🇷
@Tomley RC: Did you know, that the MAV has a Drag Brake on on Stock ESC Settings. This might explain the Nose Diving a little bit.
lesson learned could go salvage wood from a builder and stock up on short plywood may be option or scraps from a demo ans a bit of hamered metal paint
The website picture is a 3d render, which is why the real ramp looks different
Ramp didn't look like the website because I'm willing to bet that picture is a render. Are the Big Rock shock full of oil?
Can’t beat a good jump caught on a broken GoPro ?!😅
Why are good ramps so hard to find and so expensive? This is something I've run into and I eventually shelled out way too much money for a Freshpark ramp and it works great, but it was like $250.
Just build your own, I built a better quality one than the one Phil bought with scraps from other projects.
wow, looks like you had a blast! next jump challenge: recreate the barrel roll from james bond man with the golden gun... they did it with an amc... i bet you have something suitable. they did it, first take. cheers!
Never had one but think the Big Rock. Just like the look of it