She played that masterfully. She would never allow Charles to be with Camilla. She skillfully silenced any reasoned argument Charles had planned on making to his parents. Slay!
I believe that Diana really wanted the marriage to work. But she did not know how to be a good wife (Her parents and step-mother were terrible role models!) She also (most likely) had mental health issues with her bulimia being a symptom. Charles never really loved Diana. Maybe for a short time he had been infatuated or "in love"/"in lust" with her. Had he truly loved Diana he would have terminated the "friendship" with Camilla. Keeping contact with one's former lover is not the way to clear your mind for a new love. Diana wanted a man who was head over heels in love with her. I can not blame her! She was young and still believed in romance She probably had also read too many of her step-grandmother's (i.e. Barbara Cartland) novels. She was not Charles' educational equal (but nor was Camilla). Charles wasn't that old. But he was a bit of an old soul. He was also very set in his ways. She wasn't "old' like Charles. He was willing to "settle" to appease his family. What he did to Diana was horrible!
He wasn’t willing to stop his cheating. He never was. He didn’t care about the country. He certainly didn’t care about Diana or his children. He was selfish and ultimately, a pig of a man. So now you silly twits have King Chuck and Prince Willy. And old soul. Don’t make me laugh. He was in rut. Still is for that matter.
I don’t think that’s exactly fair. He didn’t want to have vows. He didn’t want to be married to Diana at all. Why would he care about his vows? The Queen is interrogating Diana about breaking her vows because Diana says she wants to stay married. So why continue to break your vows if you’re trying to save your marriage?
@@ayameisastar Well the queen literally forced him to... And Charles has no spine so of course he did as mommy said. The queen should've taken some responsibility for the marriage she arranged and feel some shame for making her son marry such a young woman clearly not emotionally equipped for such a marriage.
@@ayameisastarso do as I say not as I do? That’s the kind of male chauvinist mind set that needs to be stopped. The man treated her awful!!!!!!!!!!!! The way the queen is treating her is horrible. Charles was a snake and a coward and Diana was way to good for that man.
The Queen arranged this loveless marriage... pitting them both against one another... She could not expect Diana to accept Charles' infidelity of the heart and otherwise. Just to accept the loveless marriage.
Of course, she expected Diana to accept Charles' infidelity... She ignored and accepted Philip's rampant infidelity. The problem was that the Queen and Diana were from two very different generations. The Queen came from a stuffy generation of women who were all about sticking their heads in the sand when it came to things about their husbands they didn't like. "So what if you're unhappy? So what if your husband blatantly disrespects you? You have a duty as a woman and as a wife to shut up, be happy with what you have, and endure." And Diana came from a generation of women that collectively said to hell with all that.
People need to remember that this is nothing more than a script written by others. Nobody knows what was said or even if such a meeting took place. So let's keep it real.
Diana knew that he never loved her but she still wanted to stay in pain with him. I don’t know why . And the fact Charles parent didn’t want to let him speak prove how they never care about their son feeling about this arrange marriage he never wanted
Maybe she thought that at that time it would be easy for her to be marginalized. After all, she was so young that she didn't know what she was doing or how the game was played. I think the hospital scene was when she realized she could play the great game.
Wow so basically they wanted Diana to apologise to Charles and end the discomfort....how cruel is this Royal family. It is funny that the people of Britain still adore them.
Charles was very clear he dint wanted the relation that's why he came along with the divorce paper...Because he knew he don't love her and things are not what he thought would be( they couldn't be friends). He just wanted her to be there for his kids as mother/future queen and for the UK people. (a job offer, she fits well)
I know he was a prick but it must’ve been so emotionally crippling to know your parents really don’t give a flying f**k about your feelings and what you desire in life.. I think that’s why he wanted to be with Camilla, she kinda represented the mother he never had in a twisted way
Yeah, I mean, the show makes the case that the Queen was a bad mother. I don't even think he's a prick, I think his mother is (regarding him, not in general).
Which Queen are you referring to? Queen Elizabeth ii was a Horrible soul. She didn't allow any of her children to marry of their own choice. Even her sister Margaret ( her only sibling ) was stopped from marrying Pete Townsend because, he was just a normal RED BLOODED EARTHLING.
She was actually, but she was taught by her Grandmother to stifle her emotions. It wasn't the done thing to be overemotional in the UK anyway. Shows of emotion were met with disdain, embarrassment, or ridicule at all levels of society. Remember the unending rididicule of Paul Gascoigne when he cried in public? It was only the advent of TV talent shows and home makeover shows that normalised that sort of thing.
I want Diana's dress. I think this relationship is long over, it never should have started to begin with. And didn't Philip cheat on Elizabeth?? So why is he sitting there all high and mighty with a pretend frown on his face.
*When the Queen made that reference Philip winced a little and one of her* *rules she laid out for a successful marriage was "The blind eyes must learn to turn."*
True. On the other hand: Charles hurt Diana worse: he was not only unfaithful sexually, but also with his feelings. I remember a study in social psychology that found that women find it worse when their husband has feelings for another woman (even if he doesn't sleep with her), while men find it worse when their wife has sex with another man (even if she doesn't feel anything for him). Diana experienced the worst case scenario: her husband loved the other woman, slept with her and he didn't even have feelings for his wife. Whereas Philip loved Elizabeth despite his escapades.
I love Prince Philip’s wink to Diana at the beginning of the clip 😉😍
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed
Am sure phillip liked diana she is also an outsider like him and also talented graceful down to earth sweet person ❤
yes! 0:16 adorbs
She played that masterfully. She would never allow Charles to be with Camilla. She skillfully silenced any reasoned argument Charles had planned on making to his parents. Slay!
And in the end it all backfired on her.
She wouldn’t cause Charles was fooling around with many other girls apart from Camilla
@@monmothma3358 Diana was many things...a master chess player, not so much.
Perhaps it’s a credit to Josh O’Conner as an actor, but I find myself wishing I could strike him in every scene in which he depicts King Charles.
Well, at this time he’s still Prince Charles but I get your point.
I believe that Diana really wanted the marriage to work. But she did not know how to be a good wife (Her parents and step-mother
were terrible role models!) She also (most likely) had mental health issues with her bulimia being a symptom.
Charles never really loved Diana. Maybe for a short time he had been infatuated or "in love"/"in lust" with her. Had he truly loved Diana
he would have terminated the "friendship" with Camilla. Keeping contact with one's former lover is not the way to clear your mind for
a new love.
Diana wanted a man who was head over heels in love with her. I can not blame her! She was young and still believed in romance
She probably had also read too many of her step-grandmother's (i.e. Barbara Cartland) novels. She was not Charles' educational
equal (but nor was Camilla).
Charles wasn't that old. But he was a bit of an old soul. He was also very set in his ways. She wasn't "old' like Charles.
He was willing to "settle" to appease his family. What he did to Diana was horrible!
It seems that Diana was addicted to the stage where a man was head over heels in love with her. None of her relationships with men lasted very long.
He wasn’t willing to stop his cheating. He never was. He didn’t care about the country. He certainly didn’t care about Diana or his children. He was selfish and ultimately, a pig of a man. So now you silly twits have King Chuck and Prince Willy.
And old soul. Don’t make me laugh. He was in rut. Still is for that matter.
What about Charles breaking his vows!
I don’t think that’s exactly fair. He didn’t want to have vows. He didn’t want to be married to Diana at all. Why would he care about his vows? The Queen is interrogating Diana about breaking her vows because Diana says she wants to stay married. So why continue to break your vows if you’re trying to save your marriage?
@@ayameisastar Well the queen literally forced him to... And Charles has no spine so of course he did as mommy said. The queen should've taken some responsibility for the marriage she arranged and feel some shame for making her son marry such a young woman clearly not emotionally equipped for such a marriage.
@@ayameisastarso do as I say not as I do? That’s the kind of male chauvinist mind set that needs to be stopped. The man treated her awful!!!!!!!!!!!! The way the queen is treating her is horrible. Charles was a snake and a coward and Diana was way to good for that man.
The Queen arranged this loveless marriage... pitting them both against one another... She could not expect Diana to accept Charles' infidelity of the heart and otherwise. Just to accept the loveless marriage.
Of course, she expected Diana to accept Charles' infidelity... She ignored and accepted Philip's rampant infidelity. The problem was that the Queen and Diana were from two very different generations. The Queen came from a stuffy generation of women who were all about sticking their heads in the sand when it came to things about their husbands they didn't like. "So what if you're unhappy? So what if your husband blatantly disrespects you? You have a duty as a woman and as a wife to shut up, be happy with what you have, and endure." And Diana came from a generation of women that collectively said to hell with all that.
People need to remember that this is nothing more than a script written by others. Nobody knows what was said or even if such a meeting took place. So let's keep it real.
But the show is inspired by real life events, though the writers do take artistic licence from it.
@@cupcakefairy87The cartoon Anastasia was based on real life events, too. But I never heard of Rasputin havi g a talking bat as a friend.
It's also ok for people to be excited in discussing the demonized version of history.
We all know this is a scripted show!! Lol
Diana knew that he never loved her but she still wanted to stay in pain with him. I don’t know why . And the fact Charles parent didn’t want to let him speak prove how they never care about their son feeling about this arrange marriage he never wanted
Maybe she thought that at that time it would be easy for her to be marginalized. After all, she was so young that she didn't know what she was doing or how the game was played. I think the hospital scene was when she realized she could play the great game.
Because they knew he was wrong.
"For the sake the boys I want us to remain a family unit
@@goodcitizen3027 wrong for trying to end a loveless mariage 😂😂? Ok
Yes... But She Loved Him.... Maybe Too Much.
Wow so basically they wanted Diana to apologise to Charles and end the discomfort....how cruel is this Royal family. It is funny that the people of Britain still adore them.
She's 30 here people she knew Charles wanted out but not that the King and Prince P knew how much she was cheating
Charles was very clear he dint wanted the relation that's why he came along with the divorce paper...Because he knew he don't love her and things are not what he thought would be( they couldn't be friends).
He just wanted her to be there for his kids as mother/future queen and for the UK people. (a job offer, she fits well)
I know he was a prick but it must’ve been so emotionally crippling to know your parents really don’t give a flying f**k about your feelings and what you desire in life.. I think that’s why he wanted to be with Camilla, she kinda represented the mother he never had in a twisted way
Yeah, I mean, the show makes the case that the Queen was a bad mother. I don't even think he's a prick, I think his mother is (regarding him, not in general).
(sarcastically) The Queen was a real warm, emotional being. 😏
She was a Taurus of Anglo-Scottish-German descent.
Which Queen are you referring to?
Queen Elizabeth ii was a Horrible soul.
She didn't allow any of her children to marry of their own choice.
Even her sister Margaret ( her only sibling ) was stopped from marrying Pete Townsend because, he was just a normal RED BLOODED EARTHLING.
In her generation, showing excessive emotions is frowned upon.
She was actually, but she was taught by her Grandmother to stifle her emotions.
It wasn't the done thing to be overemotional in the UK anyway. Shows of emotion were met with disdain, embarrassment, or ridicule at all levels of society.
Remember the unending rididicule of Paul Gascoigne when he cried in public? It was only the advent of TV talent shows and home makeover shows that normalised that sort of thing.
I want Diana's dress. I think this relationship is long over, it never should have started to begin with. And didn't Philip cheat on Elizabeth?? So why is he sitting there all high and mighty with a pretend frown on his face.
80's dresses were beautiful.
*When the Queen made that reference Philip winced a little and one of her*
*rules she laid out for a successful marriage was "The blind eyes must learn to turn."*
Because he respected the need to not leave his wife.
True. On the other hand: Charles hurt Diana worse: he was not only unfaithful sexually, but also with his feelings. I remember a study in social psychology that found that women find it worse when their husband has feelings for another woman (even if he doesn't sleep with her), while men find it worse when their wife has sex with another man (even if she doesn't feel anything for him). Diana experienced the worst case scenario: her husband loved the other woman, slept with her and he didn't even have feelings for his wife. Whereas Philip loved Elizabeth despite his escapades.
man they are terrible parents though
But good monarchs.
Charles really despised her in this moment, she took away his chance to weasel himself out of this marriage.
Blind eye my ass. See ya in divorce court lol
It's going to be a battle!
Can you post 'Broken Arrow' scenes, please?
So then shoukd Charles apologize for his part in it as well? to keep respect for the crown and sanctity of marriage.