Is the new Tall Tale any good? - Sea of Thieves
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- The Monkey Island Tall Tale is here, but is the first edition any good?
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Blurbs said something that I cant stop thinking about, when he was amazed by the SCUMM Bar: "Why cant THIS be Port Merrick?"
Imagine Port Merrick with only a Portion of the feeling of the Scumm Bar, so full of live and people
Because servers can't handle it. They can't add anything more to the adventure, it will make the game unplayable.
Agreed wholeheartedly. And it's kinda funny cause Legend of the Veil was essentially a Tall Tale disguised as a voyage, and that gave use plenty of reasons to do it over and over again.
I'm not entirely sure why they don't do that for Tall Tales going forward....
It would need to have something earned thru it that needs to be ground out. Either for Athena's similar to the veil, or it's own brand new chests to turn in for cosmetics like the FoF chest.
I think they wanted the accommodations to be a reason to replay but literally everyone gets them all done on the first play through
I think melee Island will be a cool spot for role playing because you have a chapel now and a whole town to play with
I feel like something is familiar to monkey island, the shores of gold, that’s a reference to monkey island south breaker is the potion
I am in a group or RP players. We now use Monkey islands as a log in point.
1 of us logs in sails to the island does the tale while we wait for others to join. yes the tale takes 2 hours solo but when you have 4 people all working on different tasks ( ones hunting coins, ones getting Murray ect ect. ) it goes VERY quick. I think we speed ran it in 30 mins one night. Then we relax in the Scumm bar and when ready talk to the voodoo lady. honestly its a better hang than Athena's Fortune.
@@Jodykang certifiably
@@Kakuretaka i want in on this
the way they used sea forts during the flameheart and pendragon tussle was genius, wish theyd do that sort of thing more!
Not going to lie I think waiting a month for a 2 hour mission in a game isn't the best idea I think the next one should drop in 2 weeks or 3 weeks cause that is plenty of time for the community to speculate what is coming next anyway I personally think this Tall Tale was amazing
i loved the puzzles
They can't do that since season 10 is releasing in between part 1 and 2, they want it to have it's own time to shine
I don’t mind for the next one cause season ten is coming out halfway through the wait but waiting for the last one will suck
Yet if they released them all at once, I almost bet your opinion would be 'Now I'm out of content to play and it's boring now' is they any sort of winning? No, as I stated above in my own comment - people need to stop trying to dictate to the developers choices. They is reasons certain things happen, some don't go as planned, or in some cases they make a break-through and push a good update. The rumour is too that each of the tales will be the lead up to the next season which comes in October and will run through to Feb next year many doubt this but it's clearly in plain sight at this point. Tale 1 (July), Tale 2 (August), Tale 3 (Sept), Season 10 (October) > Feb 2024. This will put them back on schedule. It's likely they will announce the delay of season 10 in the next podcast. I wouldn't pay attention to the in game countdown. The name of the next season gives it away I won't break NDA but it lines up with the time of year it will be, and Falcore even knows this himself but same as me, he cannot break NDA and has to sit waiting like a good little puppet. (no pun intended)
I love how everyone, even I. Had the same idea of season 10 being a good buffer
No circus, no black pearl, no cool landscape. Red Herring 💯
I hope melee island and monkey island will be immersed into the sea of thieves normal world eventually. Melee outpost
Mêleé Outpost on the Adventure map would be smth else for sure
But yet they were willing to change Golden Sands outpost to Port Merrick...I was really hoping the map was gonna grow with a Monkey Island area. The map needs some new areas to explore.
@@atomicgasman213they half added Pirates of the Caribbean into the main game, granted it's not open for access 24/7 like the rest of the content is, but I can definitely see it being a proper Region in the game, maybe they can add it to the bottom left of the map opposite to the Devil's Roar
According to the story thus far in Sea of thieves, the ancients used their magic to separate the Sea of thieves from the Sea of the Damned, I can imagine that veil being broken, and all of the assets from the sea of the Damned tall tales could be brought into the proper game, much like how in game according to lore, flameheart brought the phantom Forts into the sea of thieves
My personal favourite thing to do in sot is exsplore new locations snd the tall tale ones are amazing i just wish their was a reason to go back
Exactly this! Amazing location but no reason to go to them again besides maybe recommendation grinding but this is forced.
I agree in the fact that we could have specific missions that make us return to tall tales, maybe it can be a way to add more voyages for Pirate Legends, as an example nedding to bring back specific items from tall tales, or stuff Bilge Rats are looking for.
A reason to go back... IF the bounty on the poster by Capsize is real, 100k would be a nice reward, i doubt it would happen tho. But I get your point, even a simple treasure hunt in these islands would be a step forward in reusing forgotten content. Amazing places with greant music and npcs forgotten by the devs
I was thinking the same thing about the reward
Finally someone of the bigger TH-camrs did a video like this. Pls rare give us content that holds longer then 2 play sessions
Absolutely well said sir. So many missed opportunities to expand upon already existing content.
The only main reason I can think of is more for an exploit, rather than experiencing the adventure, as was mentioned in a PhuzzyBond short.
That being that the Red Harring fish can give you Emissary Grade for Athena and Reaper, allowing you to easily get to Grade V after a bit of fishing. And yes, this even means getting the Emissary Quest for Athena.
I love Monkey Island since it`s release back in 1990 ... and this Tall Tale is like sailing back to the own Childhood! Simply amazing ... cannot wait for the second part!
7:00 Is at this moment when I thought to myself, "Except for the Shrouded Ghost, it doesn't exist!"
It's so strange. I love Monkey Island, it might even be the reason I fell in love with pirate settings and Sea of Thieves, but I felt so deflated after a couple of hours of playing.
Watching Rare build another set of tall-tales right now is like watching a government throw a parade when there are potholes in the street and buildings on fire downtown. There are pockets of the community up in arms around the cheating, and content creators are getting bored and playing other games because there's just nothing to do.
Even sea forts and shrines have niche uses for optimal gold grinds, I don't see that happening with the Monkey Island Tall tales.
some of the truest sentences every spoken in a youtube comment section my brotha
Well said. I have mixed feelings as well. I came to the conclusion they have completely shifted the direction of the game due to server performance. The game can't handle any more changes in the sandbox and will not get one. It is barely playable, can't handle any sort of intense action. The game is only good for tall tales and sunsets and this is the new direction.
It was neat but honestly it was very short and we went into it fully blind. Fun for sure, and it shows that if Rare was to ever do a single-player or co-op game in the Sea of Thieves universe later down the line it could be very fun but it should have been released all at once or only a week apart. I was expecting much longer considering I believe they said they are overall bigger then the regular Tall Tales.
They really over advertised this. They showed zip lines. Made it seamed like there was more to do when there really is not.
Agreed. As much as I like to do the Tall Tales they are a huge use of time for aomething that is done quickly and never returned too. Use that time to make content for the game. Its so sad to see the game just sit and be stagnant
Played it today and totally love it
Man, imagine if the borders between worlds were broken down.
Imagine if all these places in the Sea of The Damned take up one single map that's being built over years.
Imagine if the portals could be activated and take us to this second sandbox map...
Yeah, only the second sandbox map can save SoT. Servers can't handle any more changes in the old map.
Very well spoken! I have always felt this way about Tribute Peak, and the Sea Dogs Tavern. But as you mentioned, every aspect of this game should be incorporated into the main sandbox to have us visit again and again. Not just because we have a friend who hasn't played the TT and will do it again with them.
I agree with what you mean about the lack of replay ability of melee island, it is such a huge waste of time and reasourcrs
I was personally underwhelmed just because once I finished the tall tale which took about 30 mins. I was back to being bored on the seas with all the same content for the last 7 months
I don’t know how this TT can be seen as long, this has to be one of, if not THE shortest TT in the game. I don’t have the nostalgia of having played the Monkey Island franchise, so without the nostalgia goggles I found it bereft of much in the way of content and disappointing, as it felt linear and bereft of content.
Agree with Falcore and wish there was some level of replayability to these Tall Tales.
Would be nice to have a TT or an instanced space where other players could inhabit where you can socialize without fear of death (lol), RP and buy things. MMOs like World of Warcraft had some great neutral cities where the server populace and opposing factions could shop and socialize, not kill each other and experience fun seasonal events. Would love to see an optional space like that in SoT. I love socializing in games and wish I could have an interaction other than “run,” “defend” and “get ganked.” Lol!
Look at how the RP community for GTA5 on Twitch rejuvenated interest in the game with the improvisational RP servers they created. GTA5 RP does have its audience, and some are so popular they get 1000-5000 viewers.
Need more! Liked this more then pirites of the Caribbean and ive seen all the movies!! Never played the point and click but wish i did!! Love it
I had such a blast, I never played a monkey island game, But now I want too XD. It had that classic go here to get this to do this game play.
A blast? that shit was boring as hell
I see at least three ways to make Melee Island a substantial add. Grog, root beer, and pieces of eight. Pieces of eight are inventory items and could easily be brought into the sea of thieves. The Hunter's Call could be made more alive by them finding interest in a new currency. Grog and root beer could be transported using the grog barrels already on the sea of thieves ships. Easy to incorporate in the current architecture.
Root beer could be used against phantoms on islands and sea forts, just like on Melee. Grog could be used in buckets, just like vomit is already.
I think it'd be cool if instead of having a reason for us to go to the dream melee island if we coudk travel to the actual melee island through the shroud, for merchant runs, reaper attacks, Athenas stuff, hell maybe even hunters call, give it a new update, and you could incorporate new currency, and items, maybe even a new ship type, or a new weapon
That rant at the end hit pretty hard on how I feel about this game he is 100% right all this content is there and just there who does the shore of good anymore and monkey island without a walk thru took me a little over a hour I found the coins quick and the “quest” where done pretty quick too when you know all the pieces of the puzzles
Going back to the shores of gold for like a community event would be insane
Rare, just hire this man
Didn't realize it was going to be a month. Thought maybe 2 weeks tops. That's a ridiculusly long time and is going to wreck any momentum this Tall Tale just made. Doesn't help that like you said, there really is no reason to come back. I was already feeling like there wasn't enough things pull me back in as it is, at the moment. Most likely me and several others won't even touch the game again until Chapter 2 is out.
HOW DARE YOU! The curse captain will always be on top.
The Monkey Island theme very good. Catchy.
I wish we had at least another 2 separate puzzle segments. It felt incredibly short to me, but maybe because I'm used to the point and click genre, idk. Wish the other Tall tales came out all at once with this one
OMG Monkey Island looks so gorgeous!
Melee Island 10x for a monkey curse😂
They should really add some cool new islands to adventure mode. Melee island felt so refreshing, and I always loved the pirates life enviroments.
well said!
After all this is still mainly a pirate adventure sandbox. And our tools to generate content are quests, events and the multiplayer aspect. That is the main content of Sea of Thieves.
Tall Tales and Adventures are just an addition to make this world feel alive and to introduce new content. Sea forts where introduced in an adventure, but essential they are a sandbox feature. All the world events where introduced as part of the story, but essentially they are sandbox content.
And for new players all that is already in the game is already overwhelming. New players can jump into one of 4 world events, go dive into shrines, start the original sea of thieves story, start the PotC story, start the monkey island story, do one of the many different quests or start an hourglass fight. This game is packed with content for any possible playstyle. But no live serivce game can put out content every week for the excessive players and fulltime streamers. No game I know of does this.
Successful MMO games like WoW and Guild Wars 2 are not releasing new content every other week. In fact they sometimes did not even released new content for a year.
And about the replayability of Tall Tales: Who was complaining that you had to repeat every Tall Tale 5 times to get the gold curse? The very same loud minority that is complaining now that there is no reason to replay the Tall Tale!
And they even introduced new reasons to replay Tall Tales. For example sitting in Jacks chair and the gold hoarders chair got introduced with the sitting feature. Not a single word about that ever written anywhere.
Came back to SoT after a fairly long hiatus due to it not really being for me (played on and off since launch and been very love hate the whole time (sure it’s the only game on the market where guns having a 15% chance to not register a hit is accepted as a fact of life)). Why are there now preroll ads for the emporium when you load up the game? This isn’t being spoken about enough man it’s been pitched before in other games and people have gone apeshit. I load into SoT and I get a low res video ad for the LeChuck ship cosmetics. Loaded in again the next day and got a different ad.
I’m all for supporting devs but bro you sea of thieves players put up with some bollocks for average-ish live service. Was this announced? How is it just a thing?
I came back to the game, excited for 3 new tall tales, then I realised, they are releasing them one at a time, that's just horse shit
Aren't the majority of players kids?
Ive said this for years, Rare crafts a great new area and then forgets all about it. Id rather they have real seasons, where things have progressed in these places and the npc's have new quests or requirements. These don't always have to be progressing the main story. It could be tall tale 10 version/season 2 where things have changed on the island, but you can still access the volume 1 version. Its much easier to put out new content when you aren't designing everything from scratch and re use the assets already created.
Something thats been poking at me is the cursed captain. He was in the sea of the damned during the pirates life tall tale, so how did he find himself on melee island? Arnt they 2 different worlds? Idk something feels a bit off to me having the cursed captain in 2 different settings
I no longer play sea of thives. But love keeping track of the updates. To be honest, i was expecting to monkey island being a new zone. But for some reason Rare fears expanding the sandbox
It’s because if they made the map larger the already struggling servers would probably break down completely…
@@aero42 i call that lazyness, cause it's not like they have test servers.
another reason they didn't add it to the map is because if something were to happen with the license, they'd have to remove the zone entirely, which would be.. weird
@@flaninty2705 You got a point there but to be honest, it's better saying "we Will remove X content for X resons" than "You can acces this new content only once"
You said what i've been thinking on all that "new content" for quite a long time. Tall tales are just 1 or 2 sessions content... I dont know why they waste all their resources on creating cinematic tunnels that wont be played more than 2 times. If only they let those creations in the open map to be explored or integrated somehow for the players to experience other quests or journeys.
If these areas were put into the sea of thieves, it would be great. Sure, if you want to do the tall tale, you’ll still go to the SotD so no one bothers you. But in the sandbox you can still visit the places, just not able to do the tale. That way you can do what you said in the video, quests and dig up treasure from other crew on melee island. The map needs to be expanded
I wish they would add Melee island to open world as a new part of the map. It would be so cool.
100% agreed Falcore! This could be used in normally gameplay so well! It’s a large missed opportunity!
I like the word 'bespoke'
Agree with everything you said. The crew and i have talked about manybof the things covered in here about the content thats been made and the basically forgotten.
Mermaid Temples should have quests to do there. Let us buy a quest for a random Breath to retrieve and not rely on spawns on the shorelines.
On of the things that made me dissapointed, is that I thought we will be able to buy the trinkets, rather then being given to us. That would have made it a bit more personal. These kind of activities are the things that are really missing from tall tales.
Give me more Cursed Captain. He's the best.
I don't understand if this event expires or can be play it anytime from now and eventually replay it just like the new contents in Destiny 2.
Totaly agree, Give us a reason to go back there, voyages, anything... and maybe a mermaid statue to give us our loot on the other side after I don't know...
Monkey Island is a reference to the shores of gold
i spent 45 minutes on it , much shorter than shores of gold.
and no i did not use a walkthrough. im just that good.
What's the music at 6:25?
Why don't Rare make a copy of a particular SoT area (like the sea dogs tavern that one time and yes I'm aware it was re modelled but they don't have to be) and have players go there to do something. They can alternate the islands every now and then and have regular community events or something where X objective can be completed at said sea of the damned island but it costs gold for several reruns.
one thing i dislike about captaincy is that it gave the devs an easy way out for rewards. slap a basic model on a wooden plate, call it a day and put all the related "real" cosmetics in the emporium. i wish we would get some good rewards like for shores of gold or a pirates life.
They should made tall tales like the legend of the veil voyage
I enjoyed the chain reaction style “one thing leads to another” objectives. Map was great and overall feel felt good.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong as I’ve never played monkey island, but I fear it’s going to lean a little too far into the whimsical territory on a game that already rides that line. One thing I liked about Pirates Life and POTC in general, is that it’s still got some teeth to it. It’s got an edge that lends itself to a little more tension and darkness to compliment the SOT levity. Whereas Monkey island, I never felt any pressure or “fear” for lack of a better word. And when I finally did get to battle some foes…I sprayed them with root beer.
Anyone else agree?
Yeah. Never having played any of the Monkey Island series games this tall tale IS NOT what they were portraying in the trailer footage. We only got the intro and are stuck on a portion of the island. It’s easy to 100% tall tale in one play through very easily and there is no reason to go back besides leveling merchant emissary via fishing up red herring .
I liked it actually
I was hopeing that the islands of the Monkey Island games would be in the world and not the sea of the dammed, like just make the west side of the map bigger (go into the negatives or something) and add more islands and stories to explore and remember
I'd even feel a little bit more complete if the rewards for the 100% were cool, don't get me wrong I like the painting, though I don't have a captained ship so its useless, but something like oh I don't know, the ability to keep the chef outfit? Feel like that would make me feel like I gained something of value
Falcore needs to be executive director at Rare.
side quest obsidian wheel anchor and cannons hmm
Maybe the sides quests are like the quest Of the headless monkey in the first porc tall rale
If God is a talking skull, he had better sound like an angry Danny Delk.
Edit: At the end of the video, I don't think I've heard anyone so sad at so many missed opportunities.
3:23 Didn't use a walkthrough and had all the commendations done in an hour and a half. Well, everything except the lore book. I really hope the next tales are longer because the wait times for this game to get updated is just getting dragged out longer and longer with each season.
They need to bring back the reaper rowboats to adventure too
those were so much fun
How do you get these cinematic B roll shots of in game? They look great! Anyone know how?
B-roll footage from Rares videos, also very precise movements with the controller in 4k.
@@CaptainFalcore thank you very much! I appreciate it!
The good, the bad, and the monkey
The whole part with lechuck being the fake pirate lord makes sense the tall tale was delayed but also maybe it should have came out before the monkey island announcement or better give us another adventure in the middle of what we waited
Ginger woman - Captain falcore -2023
Yes...thats on the point, i enjoed the tall tale BUT i burned it down in one sitting
I'm lost here was this a "great tall tale" video or a give rare public feedback on how to build the next batch of limited time adventures for me to miss when working long hours video?
Replace Old Faithful Isle with Melee Island. Do it. You know you want to, Rare.
It kinda sucks that we didn’t get to explore the entirety of Melee island, like the town is awesome but it would have been cool to do more exploration
As far as i know we can explore the whole Island in the next part ...
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I dunno... It seems to be that all this "content" people want with talltales are too dificult to develop. Like, how do you make "replay a talltale" a refresh experience?
As far as I can see, the best way to make "good replayable content" its by leaving talltales behind and just focus on the SoT world.
I can't see a good way to mix adventure and talltale, just can't. We should stop ask for "re-imagine talltales" and start asking for new adventure world content. Pure content. Update all the Siren Kingdom stuff, update forts, update the islands and outposts (add npcs that actually lives in the islands - like Skyrim and stardew valley npcs - with their routine etc) , uptade the adventure quests, update sailing, update storm, update naval battles and melee battles.
Rare needs to expand, like idk what their income is but like, if they found a way to triple their staff and gave us something new like every two or three weeks, that would be amazing (as well as clothes and hair physics, what's I like to say is that if Fortnite has it, your game should have it (physics wise), Fortnite is my standard for games)
Waist your time grinding in this game to get exclusive items only for the devs to betray you by giving them away to everybody in the future to make them feel inclusive.
I agree totally
I left the monkey island to a FOF spawn so me and my boys went and did some toxicity
I enjoyed the tall tale as it made me not want to search for a walk through and just experience it as is. The problem is SoT adds journals or random things causing you to Google but I want the characters to have voices like the ones in the tall tale to give life to SoT
I was actually let down. I don't know where everyone is pulling this 2 hour number from but mine took MAYBE an hour and most of that was me running around looking for pieces of eight, not exactly my idea of a great time. And I know its unique and different and I hope they use parts of it in other tall tales but at the same time, I cannot stand being talked at by NPCs, voice acted or not. My friends are even worse, if there's no action they don't play so I didn't even bother asking them for this one, ran it solo. Would be neat if they could somehow work the tall tale areas into the game more effectively, would love to have battles across some of the beautifully designed areas, but as it is you use them once and that's it. They are in a difficult spot when it comes to content I give them that, but they really need to breathe life into the stuff already in the game.
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I already know that we will have to complete every side quest 5 times for 100%
I think it’s really a shame we get these amazing places for 1 or 2 missions that will be played 4 or 5 times for them to be forgotten
Especially melee island as far as I have seen the part of the island it looks amazing and deserves so much more than a location for 2 tall tales
I’d like it if there were side quests to give us money to buy clothes from the merchants there. So the clothes only found there can be bought
They did advertise shops with unique items, but that was meant for generic story items and the trinkets you get for completing it.
Lets be honest. Servers have reached their limit and will not get new content ever again. We will get only instanced content (tall tales) or sit here in the sanbox and watch sunsets, because any sort of intense action breaks the game.
Honestly my fave tall tale so far , but I woulda preferred a world event or something as I have no reason to go back sadly . A tdm event might be fun but that would be the same as arena dividing the playerbase , same as the pirates of the Caribbean tall tales , fun but no reason to go back , they have so many cool one off locations by this time they coulda made a second map!
YOUR FAVORITE? looking for pieces of 8 on a boring island is your favorite tall tale???? HOOOOOWWWWWWWWW?
@@MeshuggahforGod it had the most voice acting or at least a lot , the location felt more alive than anything else and the enemy was cool . Also didn’t have to sail around the entire map looking for books or having to replay it 5 times
@@TECHNICALfalcon the pirates of Caribbean tall tales are far and away much better. I liked the NPCs and all but it was a lame story with lamer gameplay.
i've been saying they need to reuse the old content for ages! a new game plus maybe prestige?
The only thing that will get me to play sea of thieves is a One Piece collab in the East Blue….because the players Stand a better chance in the east blue than anywhere else in one piece
I feel like the dev team wish they had made a different game. They seem uninterested in making a live service sandbox.
Rare needs to add cash rewards of 50 to 100 thousand gold on Every Tt otherwise as you pointed out there is no need to ever play it again
" The Legend of Monkey Island " Was good ( for a copy of the original game ) that said! If you dont know anything about the original game? You probably wont spent more than 2 hrs max! Before you are done. Aaaand then you have to wait for a whole month for the next part. I really think they could have done this better, this wont make people come back again, not when you make people wait a whole month to release the 2nd part... I personally think they did the tale awesome, but the way they decided to throw these out in 3??? That could not have been worse IMO to attract new people!
Petition to replace old faithful with melee island