Cheers for the awesome video. I bought this exact frame to build up just like this. So many decisions to make! I love the Hope seatpost and have their handlebar on my MTB. Hard to find in AU so maybe its a Wiggle job. What model handlebar and stem is that?
Hey, thanks! The handle bar is a Zipp explr, the stem I'm not exactly sure what it was but it was the lighter weight alloy zipp stem. I ended up changing the gearing to sram eagle using the ratio shifter upgrade
Sorry, I didn't see your comment, probably a bit late now... I can't remember installing the crown race, it possibly came pre-installed for me but I have installed crown races before using pvc pipe, around 50mm or possibly larger then hit with a hammer and timber chock, it works perfect.
10:12 interesting, on my Headlands when fitting the dub threaded bottom bracket and force 1 crank I had to remove that adjuster otherwise the crank wouldn't install. Have built it with sram force xplr etap. Lovely bikes and great video 👍🏼😎🚲
thats strange, the adjuster is the preloadeder, without it would be difficult to get preload right and it would have to pull up perfect when tightening crank up to get rid of side to side movement. When I first installed cranks I used a large spacer on the chainring side, when I tightened cranks together it actually crushed the bottom bracket and made it feel rough, I had to replaced the BB and found I needed the smaller spacer, once put together there was still a little wobble room to take out with preload adjuster.
@Kurtis yeah, with the preloader and how I set the spacers it would not fit. My crank works fine and spins well and without any play. I will check the instructions but on the bottom bracket guide it mentioned some bikes do without the preloader...
@@Rezmund The headset bearings are the ones that came with the frameset, have you got your hands on the frameset yet? if so it should come with a headset and top cap.
@@KurtisPape I got it from Brink UK outlet so it didn't come with the FSA headset I have on my other Headlands. Exploring getting a different headset. Build will be slightly different, still SRAM XPLR but Easton cranks, wheelset.
Nice looking bike. My wife has the 2020 version and I am on the fence of ordering a complete build or building one up from scratch. While I prefer the orange and blue colour, the complete build is a good value, although I would upgrade the wheels and crank, and quite possibly the handlebars. I am curious to know if you are still happy with the build and, more specifically, with the overall quality of the frame itself?
Thanks heaps for the comment! I do believe the frame is high quality and strong, I would consider it to be the same quality as any other major manufacturer like Giant or Cannondale and I'm sure would come from a similar overseas factory. The frame would be the exact same as the prebuilt bikes just a different paint job, the prebuilds are a great deal and can be slowly upgraded overtime which is a good idea, but I was willing to pay a bit more to build myself for the colour and because I wanted a wider range of gears and knew I wouldn't make much use out of any of the factory components from the prebuilds.
Hey, I was meant to haha, also bought a 0.01 - 300gram scale to weight all individual parts like stem, bolts, bb etc but I was so excited it completely forgot. Bike with pedals, bottle cages, frame protection, garmin mount etc weighs 8.7kg. Considering my giant defy is 8.45kg w/ light 28mm tires and spent a lot of money on light parts for the defy.
Hey, im 170cm tall and ill have to check but I done only 10mm less on the stem compared to my road bike, its either 90 or 100mm. I pretty much set mine up for endurance gravel riding on standard gravel roads, but I haven't actually been using it that way, ive been doing shorter rides on more rough fireroads. So for this riding I would do wider tires with bigger knobs, dropper post, wider handle bars. I think I'll start with just upgrading the tires
Thanks for the heads up Kurtis.. I guess at my height of 175cm a 54 with a 100mm stem should be ok. I see.. ya knobbier tyres will work best for the terrains you're riding now. I'm more towards 70 tarmac 30 off roads. Will be using it more like endurance bike for long distance and bike packing I guess will be using more like semi slick tyres type Thank you man keep the good work up for your channel 👍🏻👍🏻
I rode a 54 @ 183cm as a daily commuter. Excellent for hillclimbs, terrible for aero tuck, but sure was comfy. I don't adjust stem for comfort, just for weight balance. I want my eyes to see through the bars and be inline with the front axle. Choose frame length for aero tuck preference, but you don't want your head in front of the bars/axle
Hey, I used a spare GX eagle cage i had, and its a Garbaruk 50t. Funny enough this setup actually wasn't working well, I made so many adjustments and something wasn't right, its a long story...↓↓ There were too many possible reasons why such as I was using 12 spd chain, GX cage could have been bent, cassette could have been bad, hanger bent etc, so I swapped it out to a stock sram force setup 11 speed using 42t / short cage exactly how a bike shop would sell, and it was still bad. Anyway I bought all new derailleur and cassette and im using 'ratio' and its all working sweet. I think the force derailleur was a defect, really strange. Anyway I'm saving that for another video 😁
I really like the look of the garbaruk cassette in black / silver, shame ive had to put it away never to be used. But anyway I upgraded to 12spd and thought may as well go from 50t to 52t now.
Hey, wheels are 700c zipp 303s wheels, made for road / gravel with 23 internal width and tires are schwalbe G-one 35mm and they pump upto 40mm, but they still look small on this bike. Maybe in future 38mm would be better.
@@KurtisPape - I’ve got the Headlands in a 58cm frame and, I agree, there is plenty of room for bigger tyres; the fork/crown clearance is immense! I’m running 45mm Schwalbe G-One Bites on Stayer 700c carbon adventure/gravel wheels, which looks balanced on my size of frame, however it does fit the 50mm G-Ones comfortably with decent enough clearance at the rear. The 50mm make it look like a monster gravel bike and with it being such a sturdy frame and build it can take on rough stuff beyond what a gravel bike should. The additional weight and width does make it slower on road and hardback so I am finding the 45’s best compromise.
@@SJ-tk4ri Thats wide! Initially I wanted this bike to be as close to my road bike as possible (because I was using roadie heaps on gravel anyway) so that meant long stem, same width handlebars, fast rolling tires and no dropper post. Main reason was I wanted to see how fast a gravel could would be just so I didn't get disappointed thinking it was slow or too heavy. Anyway ive found Gravel riding is inherently slower. My fitness isn't the best, but on the roadie I usually average 21 - 23km/h just cruising. On the gravel bike though were more looking at 16 - 17km/h with more power. But ive found having no dropper is a problem as when it gets steep, i have to pedal out the saddle and since the seat is in the way, i put weight forward and back wheel just spins. But once im done with these 35mm tires I would go to 38 or 40mm to really smooth out the ride.
@@KurtisPape - I got the Headlands 2, obviously built up and supplied with the dropper-post. As a road cyclist I was conscious of the added weight of it and initially considered replacing it with a standard seat post, but I have come to appreciate the benefits of it. The other bike I was using for off-road riding was taking a battering and not capable of brushing off the same level of abuse as the Headlands. As I said, the 50’s were great for solely off-road and just rolled over rocks and real harsh terrain, but the 45’s are a nice compromise and ensure I appropriately rein in any over stretching of adventure riding 🤪. I find they roll as fast as the 40’s but with the extra cushioning and slightly lower pressures. Anyway, I’m sure you must be delighted with your Dream Build, you’ve done a fantastic job and it looks amazing (great colour-scheme), certainly worth the delays and wait.
@@SJ-tk4ri another reason I didn't go a dropper was its really hard to find a 27.2 dropper post at the moment. Do you use your dropper when going down hill? I feel like if you dropped it, it would lower your center of gravity for better downhills. Anyway its a long story but I accidentally order 2 left shifters, 1 from USA and 1 local. It was way easier to return 1 local and that 1 was dropper post actuator. So I was left with front derailleur shifter, anyway I removed shift mechanism and now its ready for a dropper post in the future 👍
It was 8kg without pedals, which is nuts because my road bike with 28mm tires is 8kg with pedals. I since have upgraded the gravel bike to 12 speed eagle 52t cassette using the 'ratio' upgrade kit so is probably slightly heavier now.
But yea buying everything individually costs just about double. For me though that price justifies its self a little because no components need to be upgraded in future, so I don't need to change gear ratios, tires, bars, saddle etc
stunning bike
Cheers for the awesome video. I bought this exact frame to build up just like this. So many decisions to make! I love the Hope seatpost and have their handlebar on my MTB. Hard to find in AU so maybe its a Wiggle job. What model handlebar and stem is that?
Hey, thanks! The handle bar is a Zipp explr, the stem I'm not exactly sure what it was but it was the lighter weight alloy zipp stem. I ended up changing the gearing to sram eagle using the ratio shifter upgrade
Got any tips to get the crown race set? Did urs go on smoothly? Struggling to get mine on and worried it’ll damage the fork
Sorry, I didn't see your comment, probably a bit late now... I can't remember installing the crown race, it possibly came pre-installed for me but I have installed crown races before using pvc pipe, around 50mm or possibly larger then hit with a hammer and timber chock, it works perfect.
10:12 interesting, on my Headlands when fitting the dub threaded bottom bracket and force 1 crank I had to remove that adjuster otherwise the crank wouldn't install. Have built it with sram force xplr etap. Lovely bikes and great video 👍🏼😎🚲
thats strange, the adjuster is the preloadeder, without it would be difficult to get preload right and it would have to pull up perfect when tightening crank up to get rid of side to side movement.
When I first installed cranks I used a large spacer on the chainring side, when I tightened cranks together it actually crushed the bottom bracket and made it feel rough, I had to replaced the BB and found I needed the smaller spacer, once put together there was still a little wobble room to take out with preload adjuster.
@Kurtis yeah, with the preloader and how I set the spacers it would not fit. My crank works fine and spins well and without any play. I will check the instructions but on the bottom bracket guide it mentioned some bikes do without the preloader...
Hey, hope you're well. Which headset model have you installed? I picked up a frameset in the same colour as yours and looking to build it up also.
@@Rezmund The headset bearings are the ones that came with the frameset, have you got your hands on the frameset yet? if so it should come with a headset and top cap.
@@KurtisPape I got it from Brink UK outlet so it didn't come with the FSA headset I have on my other Headlands. Exploring getting a different headset. Build will be slightly different, still SRAM XPLR but Easton cranks, wheelset.
Nice looking bike. My wife has the 2020 version and I am on the fence of ordering a complete build or building one up from scratch. While I prefer the orange and blue colour, the complete build is a good value, although I would upgrade the wheels and crank, and quite possibly the handlebars. I am curious to know if you are still happy with the build and, more specifically, with the overall quality of the frame itself?
Thanks heaps for the comment! I do believe the frame is high quality and strong, I would consider it to be the same quality as any other major manufacturer like Giant or Cannondale and I'm sure would come from a similar overseas factory.
The frame would be the exact same as the prebuilt bikes just a different paint job, the prebuilds are a great deal and can be slowly upgraded overtime which is a good idea, but I was willing to pay a bit more to build myself for the colour and because I wanted a wider range of gears and knew I wouldn't make much use out of any of the factory components from the prebuilds.
I love Marin gravel bike
🔥🔥😍😍🔥🔥 Sick mate looks mint 🤘🤘
Cheers Legend!
Hi! Have you weighted frameset (before of after cutting stearer tube) before mounting parts?
Hey, I was meant to haha, also bought a 0.01 - 300gram scale to weight all individual parts like stem, bolts, bb etc but I was so excited it completely forgot. Bike with pedals, bottle cages, frame protection, garmin mount etc weighs 8.7kg. Considering my giant defy is 8.45kg w/ light 28mm tires and spent a lot of money on light parts for the defy.
Hi.. may I know for this size 54 what's the rider's height and the stem length used? Coz I'm interested to build one too
Hey, im 170cm tall and ill have to check but I done only 10mm less on the stem compared to my road bike, its either 90 or 100mm.
I pretty much set mine up for endurance gravel riding on standard gravel roads, but I haven't actually been using it that way, ive been doing shorter rides on more rough fireroads. So for this riding I would do wider tires with bigger knobs, dropper post, wider handle bars. I think I'll start with just upgrading the tires
Thanks for the heads up Kurtis..
I guess at my height of 175cm a 54 with a 100mm stem should be ok.
I see.. ya knobbier tyres will work best for the terrains you're riding now. I'm more towards 70 tarmac 30 off roads. Will be using it more like endurance bike for long distance and bike packing I guess will be using more like semi slick tyres type
Thank you man keep the good work up for your channel 👍🏻👍🏻
I rode a 54 @ 183cm as a daily commuter. Excellent for hillclimbs, terrible for aero tuck, but sure was comfy.
I don't adjust stem for comfort, just for weight balance. I want my eyes to see through the bars and be inline with the front axle.
Choose frame length for aero tuck preference, but you don't want your head in front of the bars/axle
Garbaruk 52t and you didn't use the Garbaruk cage and stick to the standard Rival 1 cage? shifting all ok?
Hey, I used a spare GX eagle cage i had, and its a Garbaruk 50t. Funny enough this setup actually wasn't working well, I made so many adjustments and something wasn't right, its a long story...↓↓
There were too many possible reasons why such as I was using 12 spd chain, GX cage could have been bent, cassette could have been bad, hanger bent etc, so I swapped it out to a stock sram force setup 11 speed using 42t / short cage exactly how a bike shop would sell, and it was still bad. Anyway I bought all new derailleur and cassette and im using 'ratio' and its all working sweet. I think the force derailleur was a defect, really strange. Anyway I'm saving that for another video 😁
that explains.. I'm using 52t with Garbaruk cage.. shifting is fine but the look is not to my liking hahaha
I really like the look of the garbaruk cassette in black / silver, shame ive had to put it away never to be used. But anyway I upgraded to 12spd and thought may as well go from 50t to 52t now.
yeah I love the cassette but the rear cage is ugly!! the original SRAM cage looks way better
@@khairulashab yea I agree the cage in blue or purple doesn't look too good. But would look fine in black or silver, what colour do you have?
I got same frame kit on order!
What wheels & tyre sizes are they?
I'm getting Force 1 group set.
Stayer carbon 650b wheels from London.
Hey, wheels are 700c zipp 303s wheels, made for road / gravel with 23 internal width and tires are schwalbe G-one 35mm and they pump upto 40mm, but they still look small on this bike. Maybe in future 38mm would be better.
@@KurtisPape - I’ve got the Headlands in a 58cm frame and, I agree, there is plenty of room for bigger tyres; the fork/crown clearance is immense! I’m running 45mm Schwalbe G-One Bites on Stayer 700c carbon adventure/gravel wheels, which looks balanced on my size of frame, however it does fit the 50mm G-Ones comfortably with decent enough clearance at the rear. The 50mm make it look like a monster gravel bike and with it being such a sturdy frame and build it can take on rough stuff beyond what a gravel bike should. The additional weight and width does make it slower on road and hardback so I am finding the 45’s best compromise.
@@SJ-tk4ri Thats wide! Initially I wanted this bike to be as close to my road bike as possible (because I was using roadie heaps on gravel anyway) so that meant long stem, same width handlebars, fast rolling tires and no dropper post. Main reason was I wanted to see how fast a gravel could would be just so I didn't get disappointed thinking it was slow or too heavy.
Anyway ive found Gravel riding is inherently slower. My fitness isn't the best, but on the roadie I usually average 21 - 23km/h just cruising. On the gravel bike though were more looking at 16 - 17km/h with more power. But ive found having no dropper is a problem as when it gets steep, i have to pedal out the saddle and since the seat is in the way, i put weight forward and back wheel just spins. But once im done with these 35mm tires I would go to 38 or 40mm to really smooth out the ride.
@@KurtisPape - I got the Headlands 2, obviously built up and supplied with the dropper-post. As a road cyclist I was conscious of the added weight of it and initially considered replacing it with a standard seat post, but I have come to appreciate the benefits of it. The other bike I was using for off-road riding was taking a battering and not capable of brushing off the same level of abuse as the Headlands. As I said, the 50’s were great for solely off-road and just rolled over rocks and real harsh terrain, but the 45’s are a nice compromise and ensure I appropriately rein in any over stretching of adventure riding 🤪. I find they roll as fast as the 40’s but with the extra cushioning and slightly lower pressures. Anyway, I’m sure you must be delighted with your Dream Build, you’ve done a fantastic job and it looks amazing (great colour-scheme), certainly worth the delays and wait.
@@SJ-tk4ri another reason I didn't go a dropper was its really hard to find a 27.2 dropper post at the moment. Do you use your dropper when going down hill? I feel like if you dropped it, it would lower your center of gravity for better downhills.
Anyway its a long story but I accidentally order 2 left shifters, 1 from USA and 1 local. It was way easier to return 1 local and that 1 was dropper post actuator. So I was left with front derailleur shifter, anyway I removed shift mechanism and now its ready for a dropper post in the future 👍
What's the total weight of the bike?
It was 8kg without pedals, which is nuts because my road bike with 28mm tires is 8kg with pedals. I since have upgraded the gravel bike to 12 speed eagle 52t cassette using the 'ratio' upgrade kit so is probably slightly heavier now.
Hate to see the bank balance after that shop. 😲.
Tell me about it! Original idea was a budget titanium bike build using my spare components with a budget of $3000. Let's just say I trippled that :o
But yea buying everything individually costs just about double. For me though that price justifies its self a little because no components need to be upgraded in future, so I don't need to change gear ratios, tires, bars, saddle etc
frame size ??? 🙏
I got a medium frame.
@@KurtisPape 52 or 54 ?? 🙏
@@godspeed20 just had to look through old invoices because the website just have it as medium. But was in fact 54cm frame
@@KurtisPape thank you bro 🙏🙏🙏
Delete the below comment with inappropriate link 🤦🏼♂️😡
What was it? I have no idea who that is. I left the comments as 'show all' I'll have to change it to remove spam
@@KurtisPape it was pornography stuff.
@@Tronblue007 ok, I reported comment for that