2023 Honda CR-V; How to Prevent Catalytic Converter Theft | Talking Cars
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On this episode, we share our first impressions of the 2023 Honda CR-V. We cover the details of the CR-V’s redesign, its role in Honda’s vehicle lineup and how its understated nature fits into a consumer's life. We also answer a question about catalytic converter theft, and what you can do to protect your own vehicle.
SHOW NOTES:
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Welcome Michael Crossen
1:07 - 2023 Honda CR-V
2:23 - First Impressions
4:42 - CR-V Evolution
5:55 - Vehicle controls
6:44 - Fit and finish
9:02 - Cabin and seating
12:15 - CR-V vs. HR-V
14:19 - Question: Can owners or automakers do more to deter catalytic converter theft?
LINKS:
First Drive: Redesigned 2023 Honda CR-V Sticks With Winning Formula: www.consumerreports.org/suvs/...
Redesigned 2023 Honda HR-V Grows in Size and Sophistication: www.consumerreports.org/suvs/...
SUV Buying Guide: www.consumerreports.org/cars/...
How to Prevent Catalytic Converter Theft: www.consumerreports.org/theft...
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Mike Crossen is a great addition to the CR automotive team! Anyone who has taught high school automotive mechanics could probably diffuse a nuclear warhead in a 15 year old Toyota Corolla's trunk during a fire drill. Glad to see the CR car family expand!
Alex is an asset to CR. Clear concise and knowledgeable in every video
Mike Crossen is a fine addition to the podcast. He is articulate and knowledgeable, so it is a pleasure to listen to him.
Mike with the ultimate throwback regarding the Maxima headlight theft. Specifically, the facelift 5th generation Maxima because it was one of the first "regular" cars to have standard xenon headlights. Every mechanic in the NYC area knew about it and Nissan was eventually sued over it.
Good review, but bait title. Clicked on this video thinking Honda did something smart to prevent catalytic converter theft. But they didn't do anything.
Talks about catalytic converter at the very end. They just tell you that you can buy guards for the catalytic converter.
I agree they didn't talk about the crv's catalytic converter location which I've read is located in the engine compartment. I assume this means it is not exposed underneath the car. I own the 2024 crv hybrid touring and it is the best car I've ever owned. The guy in the middle seems to have had a negative bent on the crv going in.
I could get past the lack of a leather steering wheel, but the omission of a spare tire with the hybrid version (the only way I'd buy one) and the black wheels mandatory with those trims would turn me away.
Hondas have always had firm seats, Sometimes too firm, so Quincy may be right on that point.
The new guy did a great job. It's important to know about back seat comfort so I'm glad he reported on that. Happy to see there's rear-seat HVAC vents back there.
I recently purchased the 2023 CRV Sport Hybrid and the omission of a spare tire and mandatory black wheels were almost a deal breaker. But once I drove the vehicle I changed my mind and realized that if I got a flat tire I most likely would have to be towed if the tire won’t hold air after using the included inflator kit. Most of the time I’ve gotten slow leaks due to a nail and I seldom get complete flats. I love getting 51 mpg city driving and you can barely tell when the electric motor switches to gas. The horn sounds cheesy though and I hope to change replace with a much louder horn.
Like the new guy and hope to see him again.
Great question at the end about the catalytic converter thefts! I’m thinking about getting one of the newer Prius models and now realize that I need to get a theft prevention device. That’s important information that just isn’t available in other programs.
Alex, they offer an EX-L model with the 1.5 liter non-hybrid. So you don’t have to go hybrid to get leather seats and steering wheel. The Sport Touring is the top trim and comes only with the hybrid.
I’m glad to see I wasn’t the only one who noticed that.
I like the new design of the CR-V better than the old one.
The 2023 vehicle is also roomier and longer/wider
As a Honda technician myself, one of the most common vehicles for catalytic converter theft is the Honda Element. I've seen at least five of them in my shop with the converters missing.
Great discussion as always! I love the practicable position the two panelists take. Established in their delivery!
What happened to Gabe Senhar and Jake Fisher?
It's hard to imagine future versions of this and the non-sport model they already look so futuristic. Love it. most people dream about owning cars but can't afford it because they undermine online passive income.
You didnt specifically addressed the CRV catalytic converter. Since 2017, Honda has repositioned it to a secure location near towards the engine. I also noticed on my 2021 CRV that there is a protective covering. Someone peeking cannot easily locate the catalytic converter. Both are not fool proof but huge deterrents.
Great review guys, as always. You guys should do a piece on why car makers take a car and over time make it bigger and bigger and then wind up backfilling with a replacement for the smaller/original size of that vehicle…The CRV got bigger and bigger and then the HRV was created to fill that void. And it seems every car maker does it. I’m guessing so that a particular model “grows up” with the buying population that likes to buy that car? But don’t know if there are any other reasons…Thanks!!!
Yeah, that is weird.
Honda has been particularly guilty of this. The newest Accord is simply huge, and modern Civics are bigger than the Accords of the 1980s.
Although some companies buck that trend. The Chevy Equinox actually got significantly smaller in its current generation (starting with the 2018 model year).
I don’t know if anyone has said this but Alex said you have to get the hybrid to get Lester seats but there is the EXL which is gas that you get leather seats
Some of us don't want leather. Or holes in the roof.
Redesign is great. Honda took design cues from Volvo, Mazda, and VW.
I don't think you can go wrong with this. Especially the hybrid.
Real touchscreen and PHYSICAL controls!!! Smart.
Honda messed up with the trim levels. No navigation except on top trim, no 360 view cameras, no vented seats, no panoramic sun roof. They want buyers to upgrade to the RDX for that and it falls behind competition like the Sportage.
Nice addition with Michael c!
While I praise Kia and Hyundai for trying new designs. I have to knock them on the fact that I don't like either styling. The 23 CR-V is perfect in terms of styling for me personally. I think Honda nailed a clean long lasting design that will age well. It's a big reason why I love my CR-V.
Sorry you made the wrong choice. The Sportage is way better from the cockpit and way more features for the same or less money.
How do folks feel about Honda nowadays? In my family, we have several new(er) models for a 2017 Pilot and a 2017 CR-V that was sold. We experienced several issues that are outside the typical maintenance items. Our feeling has been the touted Honda reliability has slipped and isn’t up to par as it was in the past. Also possible we had some lemons
I've heard the same thing from a few people, including my brother in law. Honda had some trouble between 2016 and 2019. From what I've heard, 2020 and newer are back to normal rock solid Honda reliability. I still won't trust the first model year for a new generation. Toyota Lexus Mazda Honda and Acura are still my top 5 brands. I don't think I will purchase anything else.
Did you get the fuel injector issue on the Pilot? I think its a known problem but you can get it fixed for free for no fuss. Both my friends Pilots got the issue and one friend got it fixed twice. If I'm not mistaken the letter Honda sent said its covered for 10years / 150,000 miles.
Our family has purchased Hondas exclusively for 30+ years… we got a semi-lemon in 2018 that was eventually fixed…
Im willing to give this CRV a chance… problem now is dealers are price gouging and destroying the reputation of die hard fans…
My 2013 Honda Odyssey has been hot garbage. Never buying Honda again
@@bradweinberger6907 You should have bought a Sienna. Toyota is bullet proof there.
Honda or Suzuki at least in the past here in NA had transmission problems. I sometimes think that it is because of the motorcycle DNA of the parent companies unlike Toyota which doesn't make bikes that might be the cause of it all. Minivans need heavy duty transmissions while anyone can make a reliable motorcycle like honda and suzuki do if they are not run by bean counters requiring planned obsolescence of the products. GM was famous for its cars not lasting more than 5 years to spur sales in the past.
Vehicles keep getting bigger, but parking spaces keep shrinking! 😳
And the CR-V seems to be the only vehicle in its class without a 360 degree camera for us less confident drivers who would like some reassurance in tight parking decks and are incapable of parallel parking without assistance. I’m glad they finally have parking sensors, but I don’t get why every other foreign non-luxury manufacturer offers it on their small SUVs except Honda. Most people won’t want it, but I think it should be an option. I’d rather have that than a moonroof I’ll never use.
@@kconway2263learn to use your mirrors? How did you pass your driving test not being able to do this
Do those of us w back pain have to buy a rusty old Buick to get relief.? What happened to proper gluteousmaxamus padding?
Thieves were stealing the headlights off the 6th generation Nissan Maxima to take the HID components out. They would then use them to retrofit into other vehicles that didn’t come with HID headlights. There is now a huge aftermarket that supplies projectors, bulbs and ballasts making stealing those special headlights a thing of the past. Deterring catalytic converter theft is a whole other problem.
Do the newer Toyota hybrids come with better catalytic converter protection or less precious metals than the earlier generation models like the Prius?
Most likely Honda dropped the LX model due to the chip shortage. They can only make so many cars, so better to make higher trims where the profit margins are larger.
Yes absolutely.
They dropped it because it wasn’t selling.
The main reason was to carve a spot for the bigger HRV.
I don’t know if this was correct when this video was made, but they show an LX CR-V on their website without the heated seats or moonroof. Also, blind spot isn’t standard. It’s available for $500 extra, I believe. The Civic still doesn’t have an LX model, but the Accord does. I think you’re correct, Marek. Chips are becoming easier to find, so they may have brought them back. I know sometimes changes are made mid-season. Perhaps they had too many complaints since cars are so expensive? But I’d think if price was an issue, you’d get an HR-V or Civic, rather than Accord or CR-V.
The guy on the right wins the fullest beard contest.
It's a gradient, more beard as you go right
Good
It would be nice if CR could report on the general Supply-Demand equation for automobiles during each episode. It could be something simple like the trend of average purchase prices over/under MSRP of a group of commonly purchased cars. Or something else - I'm not sure what else?
Our CRV hybrid will take 5 mths to be delivered. The non hybrid models are already available at the dealer lots.
18:40 that explains why the Altima's head lights became such a pain to work on.
I've been watching a while and have two comments. 1. Usually I hear about pricing on your reviews, the CRV is pretty steep, and I've heard it is more than competitors. 2. I like the new panelists, but I want to hear more from Gabe S.
I doubt there's going to sell many of them after they raised the price about $3,000
I'm sure the newly redesigned CRV is well packaged and put together, but no mention in the review of transmission performance, the available power from the 1.5 turbo while pulling up a steep hill or location of the spare tire.
They want you to buy a subscription to get the details. Which I'm sure can be found for free online.
The spar tire for tge EX L is under the flooring the back. I can drive the car on a hill on the 58 freeway and stop in the middle of the hill as a semi in front of me and have the power to climb the hill
The CR-V is the Glock of crossover SUV's. I'm a fan of both and for the same reasons.
The trim you guys have is a EX and only two difference between EX and EX-L is that EX-L has Leather thus “L” and 9 inch touch screen.
That is not correct, you get a lot of additional features with the EL-L; sunroof, driver's seat memory settings, better sound system, wireless CarPlay and Android Auto, power liftgate.
CC from my 2005 Honda Accord was stolen in Queens NY and calling the Police does not help, no even take a report. The Car manufacturer should be responsible in doing something rather than selling as an accessory.
My maid's nephew is in prison for catalytic converter theft in New York from around that time. Lol.
How about bad design of 1.5 turbo engine still oil dilute and bad head gasket
Didn’t the last generation have oil dilution problems? Ever since tht I have looked more at Toyota & Mazda.
The 1.5L turbo had some problems for the first few years. I'm pretty sure 2020 and newer are pretty darn reliable again. I still don't like the idea of such a small turbo engine. I would love a 2.0L turbo CR-V with a real transmission!! I am considering the 2024 CR-V hybrid. Let them work out any issues during the first model year.
It's easy to see why easy-to-acces catalytic converters are more frequently stolen, but the Toyota Prius is very low to the ground, like a Hinda Civic. It seems a pretty high risk theft. I wonder if there are other factors which make it such a tempting target.. 🤔
A: it's worth a lot more than most other cats.
@@jimthumerzs2301… especially gen. 2 Prius (2004-2009), which has more precious metals in their cats than the other generations.
Crime syndicates know what yields the highest return. The Prius has more bang for the buck than many others so they entice these ex-cons and would be thieves with a few hundred bucks for every unit they can deliver. We never go after the big fish in these schemes, always the little guy.
My question would be: is it quieter than the RAV4?
You need an EX-L to get leather seats not hybrid.
Wonder if they paid ADM or have options added they didn't want to buy.
The bottom line is when you as a consumer has to make a smart buy with keeping in mind that you need to fund your 401K the CR-V is a contender.
I already seen like 7 on the road!
Honda CRV engineers....bring back the picnic table!
Although the CRV has had 6 generations, the first CRV was the 1985 Civic wagon. It had 4 WD model and was Honda's, if not the industry's, first crossover SUV. I have driven them all, including the original Civic branded one, and I have owned 3 models once our new Sport Hybrid arrives in February. IMO it has always been the best first car you could ever buy your kid or spend your own cash on. Safe, efficient, drives well, spacious, comfortable, well priced. It is not an A plus in any single category but an A minus from every angle, something that always easily has kept it ahead of the pack. It has always been the recipe since the beginning, with each new model being an improvement on the prior model. If a perfect, idylic socialist society ever became a reality, everyone would get a CRV. Everything a small family transport needs to be. The only thing less than premium (for its segment) was significant road noise, but that has been remedied progressively with every refresh and is now as good or better in that deparment as any other offering on the market. The biggest unseen change has been to the body structure. Essentially, all small crossovers have done poorly or failed the new IIHS side impact standard. This new model was designed to ace it.
In a perfect society every car would be a station wagon. 😁
I believe Honda hid the Cat on the engine bay. I looked under mine and I didn’t see a cat under the frame.
the entry level model is the HRV
You don’t need to get into the hybrid for leather seats. That’s what the EX-L is.
Lol that shows you Toyota doesn't want to design a cover to protect it at the factory level. They want to sell you a cover.
Now we can have an All Mike's episode.
Looks like most sub-compact SUVs. Subaru, lexus, Totyota, and others look alike.
If i compare the new 2023 CR-V, exterior and especially the interior, with my 2022 Sportage ( German version ), the CR-V looks 6 - 8 years behind. For a lot of people is that maybe Ok but if i pay a lot of money for a new car, i want a modern design with a modern interior, otherwise if i want a car with a older interior design? i can buy a older car for a lot less money.
manufacturers need to create a locking system for. catalytic converters that only the owner or an authorized mechanic can access ...
They’ll probably start adding them on and trying to charge you like they do with wheel locks.
"You just get in and go, nothing complicated".... says every thief that basically walks up, codes a key, gets in, and just drives away.
No offense to the consumer reports guys, but seriously, this whole theft problem needs to be talked about. It's literally out of control. I've seen multiple carfaxes with 1 and 2 car thefts on them while shopping.
So obvious question: did Honda finally finally do anything about theft? It's so stupid to steal them! The thieves need like what, just the VIN?
Some might say "oh, but thieves can steal whatever they like and it's not Honda's fault". But that's not true! It seems like the Mazdas and Nissans aren't really that easy to steal. Something about the Hondas that makes it that stupid simple. One of the Lexuses also has this problem. Look at all the top 10 stolen lists...
thats a lot of money
$34,000 and a plastic steering wheel… especially since they got rid of the LX? How much more can a leather wheel cost?
It just looks kind of boring/ inexpensive for $34k. Maybe it’s just me.
CR-V EX interior looks extremely cheap for mid-$30k. Other competitors have much nicer materials at the price.
Must be a good vehicle if all you whine about (yes, whine!) is the lack of leather-wrapped steering wheel on the base model. Do people buying the base level really care about that? Is it going to make you NOT buy the car??! Common CR. Tesla man didn't like it "stiff"... hummm... Glad I don't waste my money on this magazine anymore.
Call me weird but I actually prefer plain steering wheels. I find the stitching on wraps to be somewhat annoying. 😂
Consumers, stop buying more than you can chew.
Get a Honda Fit if you are a commuter and you are sensitive ecologically.
Get a Honda CR-V or HR-V if you are alone with 1 child or a dog and you’d like to ride high.
Do you need a Passport or a Pilot when a CR-V would foot the bill?
If you plan on SUVRV’ing, definitely get a Pilot.
Happy motoring!
You can't anymore. The Honda Fit, the Ford Fiesta and Focus, the smaller less expensive cars were eliminated from the makretplace to raise the entry point. The average price of a car now is $46k and manufacturers realize that without lower priced offerings, the consumers will continue to jump into the next higher priced model. It will eventually crash OR we will all be forced into used cars which then slowly get phased off the road. It's hard to tell what the end game here is. It's not an organic market anymore dictated by consumer spending.
Really guys, Let's talk tech and about the increased safety . Passenger and driver knee bags and rear seat airbags. A cleaner styled outside and a very functional classy inside. Kia/Hyundia bling- No Thanks. Honda is getting back to it's roots. As far as the HRV/CRV comparison . Your wrong- It is based off the new Honda global platform (Civic) with some previous gen 5 CRV bits thrown in. Also, the AWD system has improvements sending 50% of the power to the rear wheels. Screen size and weird styling at a reduced price (Kia/Hyundia) is not relevant
I would love to own a Tesla. Please refer to Tesla's as often as you'd like
Friggin ad.
Get a used CR-V if you want one.
Note to Quincy: Nobody wants to be seen in a Tesla anymore. Take a nap fan boy.
Are you that “nobody”?
That's not true. I would not buy one, but I know several people who have them and who love them. So you're statement is wrong
They are still selling like hot cakes. They are like iphones, built like shit but people keep buying!
I didn't realize that many people bought a car to be "seen" in? I thought they just weighed the costs to operate it over a certain amount of years and then narrowed down their choices...
Moon roof and heated seats.. two more things to break..
Seriously very slow. Occasionally it brakes hard when there is nothing ahead! That's also dangerous.
I have had the same issue with phantom braking ... dealer says they've never heard about it. What did your dealer say?
Couldn't have made it more boring, if they tried! Honda is so far behind the EV 8-ball, but good luck with it.
Its disgusting how cars just keep "needing" to get larger. if they didn't do this cars would be so much more efficient. look at the size difference between the original Civic and Now.. Enough with the bloat. Americans are bloat lovers.
My waistline and prostrate keep getting bigger.
Drinking a Double Big Gulp right now and I agree with you
I had a 1989 Civic LX sedan which I dearly loved to 319k miles and a CRX-SI I guess in my 30s they were perfect size for me. Now at 60 I'm looking at the compact SUV/Crossovers for the ride height more than anything. I just wish the Honda CRV had the same content offered in the Hyundai and Kia Tucson /Sportage
@@hereigoagain5050 😂😂😂😂🏆
@@hereigoagain5050 Best laugh that I've had in a while. Thanks!
Theres far more money in making large cars and trucks. Remember 20 years ago manufacturers realized the profits from large trucks was enormous compared to smaller space constrained cars. The simplicity and speed to assemble components into a large platform far outweighs trying to stuff things into a tiny package. It's another reason Honda killed the Fit, Ford killed the Fiesta and Focus, etc.